Author Topic: Shenzhen Dingoo Digital is at it again...  (Read 23451 times)

thismeinteil

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Re: Shenzhen Dingoo Digital is at it again...
« Reply #20 on: May 13, 2010, 06:16:57 am »
@ ddragonss

As DDU has pointed out already, why did the "original" Dingoo company wait 10 months to post anything on their News section?  He even pointed out that the Y/B fix was released by Dingoo Tech after the split.  Not only that, but Dingoo Tech has been selling accessories for the Dingoo A-320 for at least a month or more.  I'm sure DDU can fill us in on the actual date they started shipping those.  Where has Dingoo Digital been?  They haven't released anything since the split, at least as far as I know.  No accessories, firmware updates, nothing.  Wouldn't they want some of the action that Dingoo Tech has been getting these last 10 months?  Especially if they have the rights to it?  I find it funny that only until the release of the A-330, do they feel the need to speak up.  BTW it still says Dingoo A-320 and A-330 in the description.

ddragoonss

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Re: Shenzhen Dingoo Digital is at it again...
« Reply #21 on: May 13, 2010, 09:35:04 am »
@ ddragonss

Where has Dingoo Digital been?  They haven't released anything since the split, at least as far as I know.  No accessories, firmware updates, nothing.

You think ALL the dingoo from dealextreme(it's not a small store, various people buy from there) is made from materialized dreams and love?

This store always sell and are still selling dingoos made from shenzhen dingoo digital, how did I know that?
1-They tell it, the customers in DX don't want HK-dingoos, so they never would sell it.
2-The name shenzhen dingoo digital in the boxes.
3-In these dingoos, the link in the "system>about" is dingoo888.cn, not dingoo.hk.

So don't come here saying dingoo digital is dead because they aren't.

Open your narrow-minded view, it's really easy and confortable trust dogmatically in something/someone without hear the other side of history, but it's the correct thing to do?
« Last Edit: May 13, 2010, 09:39:12 am by ddragoonss »

ricsi

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Re: Shenzhen Dingoo Digital is at it again...
« Reply #22 on: May 13, 2010, 10:23:27 am »
thinks he's the almighty god of everything because he owns the original domain name?

I do not really care what company is making what.
As long as they are not forced by legal action to stop making the HW.

BUT I do not really think it is ONLY the domain name.
If it were only the domain name, than why form a NEW company?

Also regarding the "typo" on dingoo.hk ... for me a typo is a mustake (oops) you do once out of error.
They made the SAME "typo" on the same page several times ... does NOT match my definition of typo.

But again back on topic. As long as they add VALUE (updated emulators utilizing all the RAM they added to the system, updating firmware with new features, add new functionality ...) they can call it sdakjfhaskldf a330 ... I do not really care, as long as they are not forced by legal actions of others to stop manufacturing the new and improved sdakjfhaskldf a330.

darfgarf

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Re: Shenzhen Dingoo Digital is at it again...
« Reply #23 on: May 13, 2010, 10:28:11 am »
Open your narrow-minded view, it's really easy and confortable trust dogmatically in something/someone without hear the other side of history, but it's the correct thing to do?
reverse that and ask yourself it

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Re: Shenzhen Dingoo Digital is at it again...
« Reply #24 on: May 13, 2010, 11:03:52 am »
also confusion on dealextreme forums:

http://www.dealextreme.com/forums/Default.dx/sku.23032~threadid.608866

I would be really interested in the background of the DX - dingoo.hk history.

They really, really have a problem with dingoo tech - I have no clue what happened there

Re: Shenzhen Dingoo Digital is at it again...
« Reply #25 on: May 13, 2010, 12:30:05 pm »
Open your narrow-minded view, it's really easy and confortable trust dogmatically in something/someone without hear the other side of history, but it's the correct thing to do?
reverse that and ask yourself it

^ This.

And ddragoonss, don't say "I'm ready to accept other ideas if there's evidence duhhurhduhr", because you obviously have picked a side, and are apparently ignoring a TON of evidence just to stick to your side.

@ ddragonss

Where has Dingoo Digital been?  They haven't released anything since the split, at least as far as I know.  No accessories, firmware updates, nothing.

Also, ddragoonss, I don't think thismeinteil is saying that DD no longer sells anything. I think what he's saying is that DD haven't been able to produce new things since the split. Like new models, accessories, firmware updates, etc... like Dingoo Tech has been doing.
« Last Edit: May 13, 2010, 12:42:12 pm by Jesse »

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Re: Shenzhen Dingoo Digital is at it again...
« Reply #26 on: May 13, 2010, 12:50:47 pm »
@ ddragonss

Where has Dingoo Digital been?  They haven't released anything since the split, at least as far as I know.  No accessories, firmware updates, nothing.

Also, ddragoonss, I don't think thismeinteil is saying that DD no longer sells anything. I think what he's saying is that DD haven't been able to produce new things since the split. Like new models, accessories, firmware updates, etc... like Dingoo Tech has been doing.

Dingoo Technologies has made no actual changes to the firmware that I can see. All their modifications are purely aesthetic and could easily have been done with homebrew tools. The new A330 shows this clearly by the fact that the firmware on it has no access to the updated RAM and by the way that the wireless gamepad interface is hardwired.

Makes me very dubious of the whole thing, I'd feel happier if I could see proof that they actually have access to the OS source code.

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Re: Shenzhen Dingoo Digital is at it again...
« Reply #27 on: May 13, 2010, 01:17:56 pm »
why are people saying dingoo digital are not manufacturing anything anymore?

dingoo digital have never stopped production of the original dingoo, it is the only one that DX sells and DX have been buying the A320 from the same people since the very beginning around 18 months ago. i bought a new one from there less than a month ago. when asked about the a330 the staff at dingoo digital claimed it was a fake.

i dont know why you people are so stubborn to the fact that dingoo tech are the bad guys in all of this. they are the manufacturers of the HK dingoo and they are the manufacturers of the fraudulent and overall shit "Dingoo a330", sorry i mean "PSP a330", no whoops i mean "Games a330"  :-X
« Last Edit: May 13, 2010, 01:21:37 pm by gibberish »

Re: Shenzhen Dingoo Digital is at it again...
« Reply #28 on: May 13, 2010, 01:51:44 pm »
why are people saying dingoo digital are not manufacturing anything anymore?
Who is saying that?

There are no "bad guys".

A company split. Now one company is trying to sell more units by spreading rumors about the other company. These units in question (the A320's) are identical. That's all that is going on here. There are no shoddy fakes.

All that "pawed/unpawed" and "HK/non-HK" stuff doesn't really mean anything. There are slightly different versions on Dingoo hardware floating around, but an HK on the serial number is no real indicator of anything or the problems it may have. There is nothing necessarily inferior about HK units, as many people can verify.

Do you understand this? How many more times must it be said?

And you don't even have an A330 yet. So what are you saying? Even if it's just an A320 with better shoulder buttons, that makes it crap? So you think the A320 is crap?

You are acting like an idiot.
« Last Edit: May 13, 2010, 03:44:32 pm by Jesse »

thismeinteil

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Re: Shenzhen Dingoo Digital is at it again...
« Reply #29 on: May 13, 2010, 11:07:53 pm »
@ Jesse

Thanks.  That's exactly what I meant.  Probably should have clarified it a little better, though.  To me, all signs point to what DDU has been telling us all along.  That after the split, most of the original staff left to form Dingoo Tech.  I know my silicone glove and carrying pouch were made by them.  And I'm pretty sure DDU has said that Dingoo Tech are the ones who released the update that fixed the infamous Y/B bug, as well as some codec bugs in the video player.
« Last Edit: May 13, 2010, 11:09:56 pm by thismeinteil »

ddragoonss

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Re: Shenzhen Dingoo Digital is at it again...
« Reply #30 on: May 14, 2010, 01:01:22 am »
ignoring a TON of evidence just to stick to your side.
TON of evidences??
 ;D

"DDU said this", "DDU said that", "DDU is a charitable guy who don't want earn money", "DDU is with the good guys cause he is a good guy", "DDU can't be deceived by bad chineses because he is perfect".

If this is all your "TON of evidence", be sure I will stick to "my side", not only my side, but the side of gbatemp, best-offer buy, dealextreme and in the side of the FIRST DEVELOPERS AND CREATORS OF THE ORIGINAL DINGOO.


« Last Edit: May 14, 2010, 01:04:34 am by ddragoonss »

Stephanie

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Re: Shenzhen Dingoo Digital is at it again...
« Reply #31 on: May 14, 2010, 02:04:55 am »
...gbatemp...

Except gbatemp / shoptemp are selling the A330 though. They even say it's in stock and shipping now.

Are they getting their A320's from Dingoo Digital and their A330's from Dingoo-Tech?

Reo

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Re: Shenzhen Dingoo Digital is at it again...
« Reply #32 on: May 14, 2010, 03:59:24 am »
ignoring a TON of evidence just to stick to your side.
TON of evidences??
 ;D

"DDU said this", "DDU said that", "DDU is a charitable guy who don't want earn money", "DDU is with the good guys cause he is a good guy", "DDU can't be deceived by bad chineses because he is perfect".

If this is all your "TON of evidence", be sure I will stick to "my side", not only my side, but the side of gbatemp, best-offer buy, dealextreme and in the side of the FIRST DEVELOPERS AND CREATORS OF THE ORIGINAL DINGOO.



How about "DDU is in contact with both companies and ddragoonss isn't"?

You're acting as if Shenzhen Dingoo Digital can do absolutely no wrong.
« Last Edit: May 14, 2010, 04:01:02 am by Reo »

ddragoonss

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Re: Shenzhen Dingoo Digital is at it again...
« Reply #33 on: May 14, 2010, 04:27:45 am »
...gbatemp...

Except gbatemp / shoptemp are selling the A330 though. They even say it's in stock and shipping now.

Are they getting their A320's from Dingoo Digital and their A330's from Dingoo-Tech?

I missed one here.

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How about "DDU is in contact with both companies and ddragoonss isn't"?
How about "DDU is not the only with direct contact with the companies."?
How about "DDU is not the only who resells dingoos."?
How about "Every dingoo reseller can have the same 'contact' that DDU has."?
How about "DDU is not in the china, but Deal extreme is."?
How about "Deal extreme is bigger, has more customers and mainly sell dingoos longer time than DDU."?
« Last Edit: May 14, 2010, 04:29:40 am by ddragoonss »

darfgarf

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Re: Shenzhen Dingoo Digital is at it again...
« Reply #34 on: May 14, 2010, 06:33:50 am »
well how's this, dragoons comes out of nowhere and starts slagging people off without any proof, whereas the rest of us tend to trust people that have been around a long time and made the effort to contribute to the dingoo (however they've done it)

dealextreme might have sold more dingoos/whatever, but they haven't engaged with the community whatsoever, so they're just a faceless shop doing it for the money.  fingers in the pie so to speak

kswildside

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Re: Shenzhen Dingoo Digital is at it again...
« Reply #35 on: May 14, 2010, 06:54:06 am »
This will all be directed at DDragoons and once I have said my piece I will not comment on this again...

1. I have never said I don't make any money of selling the A320 I said I don't make much so don't change what I said or try to twist it.

2. Because I am in the forums all the time assisting everyone not only my customers Shenzen Dingoo Digital wanted me to post new news when they were the company in September 2009 the split happened.

I have only posted news and comments on Dingoo Techs behalf since. I have very little if no contact with Shenzen Dingoo Digital anymore.

3. Most resellers have direct contact with Dingoo-Tech but probably not on a personal level like I do I consider all of them not only as business partners but as dear friends. Yes every reseller has contact but not every reseller has the trust of Dingoo-Tech to speak on there behalf.

I have now gotten to the point that anything they tell me to post will be forwarded to OMGMOG also so he can back up what I'm saying is true just as he got his A330 directly from Dingoo-Tech.

4. No I'm not in china but I have been there several times to the old HQ Shenzen Dingoo Digital and I know where the new HQ for Dingoo-Tech is can you say you have been there or you have any direct business dealings with China on a reseller scale.

 If not then you don't have the first clue about how business is done or ran in China. You only have knowledge of how companies in europer and america work.

So don't speculate or try to understand something you can't understand unless you have been there or dealt with them on a daily basis.

5. As Darfgarf stated DealExtreme is in it for the money has never taken the time to help out the community or been involved in any way with making the community better to them it's all about the money.

Look at the delays from deal extreme with shipping and how there customer services is. You speak of things and saying how good deal extreme is yes they are good but if they have such great contacts please explain why I've carried the Replacement case and LCD screen for the A320 almost six months before them.

Two months ago they just started to carry the replacement case and less then three weeks ago just started to carry the LCD replacement screen.

Finally you like to put people down and like to have things explained 50 times and say you want proof when given proof you dismiss it. I'm now going to dismiss and ignore you because your not worth my time or hassle rehashing the same shit over and over.

DDragoons please ask yourself one question what have you done for this community other then bitch and moan and hassle alot of users and made big stirs about shit that should have been laid to rest a long time ago.

In my opnion and alot of others you just someone who likes to whine and bitch and moan and not really productive or helpful in anyway other then being the above.

OMGMOG I apologize in advance for all the statements above but I can't take his mouth anymore and arrogance and hatefulness and hell I can't say all the things he is but in a nutshell JERK.

« Last Edit: May 14, 2010, 06:57:11 am by dingoo-digital-usa »

Re: Shenzhen Dingoo Digital is at it again...
« Reply #36 on: May 14, 2010, 10:45:05 am »
So you are going to believe those random guys who don't care about the Dingoo and who have never helped this community one bit? The Dingoo is just another product to them, like all their other products they get from hundreds of other companies. DDU is much more involved, knowledgeable, and caring about the Dingoo and it's company. We actually have reasons to trust him.

And there is more evidence than just words that DT is the home of the original creators. Such as DT being able to make new models and upgrades, while DD has done nothing yet, besides be stupid little children who have got to sling dirt around on other people to sell units.

As far as we know, there is nothing fraudulent, illegal, or inferior about DT or DD.

DD may be spreading around bullshit about DT to sell more units, but whatever. They both sell the same A320, apparently.

The only sensible thing to do is to stop the stupid speculations and bickering, and wait for DD's new console to come out in a couple months (if that indeed wasn't just more BS spewing from their mouth). Then we will see where the ORIGINAL DINGOO TALENT went to.
« Last Edit: May 14, 2010, 03:12:58 pm by Jesse »

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Re: Shenzhen Dingoo Digital is at it again...
« Reply #37 on: May 14, 2010, 10:47:05 am »
That's enough with the personal attacks folks.

ddragoonss

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Re: Shenzhen Dingoo Digital is at it again...
« Reply #38 on: May 14, 2010, 04:05:16 pm »
And there is more evidence than just words that DT is the home of the original creators. Such as DT being able to make new models and upgrades, while DD has done nothing yet, besides be stupid little children who have got to sling dirt around on other people to sell units.
Ahhh, that is your "TON of evidence", ok then...

A question, dingoo is really outdated for you?

That "Great one new upgrade" is really useful? Before aswersing it, remember, that "new RAM improvement" is literally useless, just a piece of chip in the PCB who can't even be used in actual native OS, neither in actual dingux.
And a portable controller in a portable device(yo dawg) is not the best piece of "upgrade" I can imagine, and it CANT be used to make a 2 controller thing/multi-player between dingoos because it's just soldered in the controller circuit.
And the great PSP rip-off design(a.k.a PSP games A330).


SO why a company who CREATED a good handheld, would want to do such dubious "great improvements" in your master-piece?
And you really think 2 really easy-to-do improvement(useless RAM/spare remote control) is the proof who dingoo technology is better?

They can't do any kind of major upgrade other that spare chips pasted on original PCB, because they don't have any kind of know-how to do real improvements, like to change the firmware to accept a real wireless or to accept more real RAM.


Your "upgrade" is just a piece of amadeur-modding to me, real upgrade is more than it.
I really can't get where is your "TON of evidence".


To DDU, you earn money(amount of money is relative, but it's still money), so to me all your "help" is marketing/merchandising to get(directly and indirectly) more customers.
« Last Edit: May 14, 2010, 04:16:19 pm by ddragoonss »

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Re: Shenzhen Dingoo Digital is at it again...
« Reply #39 on: May 14, 2010, 04:13:33 pm »
Actually the only reason I got into reselling was to offer North America a point of contact for support and ability to get things done. What I do is not for money or I wouldn't do it someone asks me to do something like get a replacement screen I went and got Dingoo-Tech to provide them.

The HK issue was hurting alot of people I got with other developers to fix the issue. How does that benefit me direct or indirectly other then being nice and trying to help the community I love and respect for all the hard work they do. I have given of my time and my money and even items away what have you done?