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Title: JXD V3!!!
Post by: davdud101 on June 23, 2010, 02:02:47 pm
Hi everyone. I came from dingoo-digital forums. Anyway, I may decide to get the JXD V3, because it runs the exact systems I want it to, (SNES, MD/Gen, GBA), it has a bigger screen, a more furturistic style, etc. However, who knows what the future holds. I'll just wait and see!
Title: Re: JXD V3!!!
Post by: darfgarf on June 23, 2010, 03:56:04 pm
cool story
Title: Re: JXD V3!!!
Post by: joanilson41 on June 23, 2010, 06:07:30 pm
welcome man!
so, i have a JXD V3 too...

the last days here had no news about programming on spmp8000
Title: Re: JXD V3!!!
Post by: davdud101 on June 23, 2010, 06:29:27 pm
Your English looks like it's getting better. However...
Not to sound dumb...but... what exactly is spmp8000?
Title: Re: JXD V3!!!
Post by: yoshi41 on June 23, 2010, 08:55:44 pm
I have the JXD 1000 (http://www.jxd.cc/en/product_view.asp?id=313). The button mapping is just HORRIBLE and makes SNES and SMD games almost unplayable. I never found a firmware which fixes this problem.

This seems to be a problem for all JXD devices, also for the V3:

http://www.mp4nation.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=17512 (http://www.mp4nation.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=17512)

http://www.mp4nation.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=17637 (http://www.mp4nation.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=17637)

http://www.mp4nation.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=17453 (http://www.mp4nation.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=17453)

@joanilson41 : What is your experience with the buttons ?
Title: Re: JXD V3!!!
Post by: omgmog on June 23, 2010, 10:28:31 pm
Your English looks like it's getting better. However...
Not to sound dumb...but... what exactly is spmp8000?

SPMP8000 is the chipset inside the JXD V3, JXD 1000/2000, Letcool N350JP, and numerous other similar portable game systems. It's a pretty much identical system between all of the consoles, and generally apps from each console will work perfectly fine on any of the others.

So we refer to the consoles as a whole as "SPMP8000 Devices"

the last days here had no news about programming on spmp8000

Still waiting for my breakout board to arrive in the mail so I can get a serial connection on my Letcool :)
Title: Re: JXD V3!!!
Post by: davdud101 on June 23, 2010, 10:39:11 pm
Wow. Someone needs to merge a collection of these consoles and create some Mega Emulator or something.
Title: Re: JXD V3!!!
Post by: yoshi41 on June 23, 2010, 10:53:07 pm
Here's your collection (http://www.dhgate.com/wholesale/china-branded-game-console/c290211.html#DCP29-L2) ;D
Title: Re: JXD V3!!!
Post by: davdud101 on June 23, 2010, 11:06:58 pm
I got where you're goin. In reality, all I need is a PMP console that plays gba and snes games with all keys. I don't want to go to the tedious work of jailbreaking my iphone. Plus, I like phsical buttons, so the Gemei might actually be it. Which bring me to my next statement(no duh):
1: Do the Gemei X760+ and the Dingoo rung the same firmware and stuff?
2: If so, why isn't Linux/Dingux a feature for the Gemei?

Eyeballin the GP2X...
Title: Re: JXD V3!!!
Post by: omgmog on June 23, 2010, 11:13:21 pm
I got where you're goin. In reality, all I need is a PMP console that plays gba and snes games with all keys. I don't want to go to the tedious work of jailbreaking my iphone. Plus, I like phsical buttons, so the Gemei might actually be it. Which bring me to my next statement(no duh):
1: Do the Gemei X760+ and the Dingoo rung the same firmware and stuff?
2: If so, why isn't Linux/Dingux a feature for the Gemei?

Eyeballin the GP2X...

1 - I believe the X760+ can run the native Dingoo apps, but there are problems with the number of buttons (as I mentioned)
2 - Booboo disappeared from the scene, he had a lot of hassle getting his X760+ and then he kind of just stopped working on it (as you'll see on the dingux.com blog)

The GP2X Wiz is a nice console, and it does gba/etc just fine, has a touch screen, full size SD, etc. Only downside you might find is that it's quite a bit more expensive than the Dingoo, X760+, Letcool, etc.
Title: Re: JXD V3!!!
Post by: yoshi41 on June 23, 2010, 11:30:58 pm
This (http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/52757-to-wiz-or-not-to-wiz/page__st__15__p__836081__fromsearch__1&#entry836081) might help you to decide for both, the Wiz and the Dingoo ;)

Just one more thing. Installing emus on the Wiz is easier. Linux is the original OS. And forget the Gemei, as omgmog said.
Title: Re: JXD V3!!!
Post by: davdud101 on June 24, 2010, 12:05:07 am
Wiz s much too expensive. I guess I'll just go with the Dingoo.
Title: Re: JXD V3!!!
Post by: joanilson41 on June 24, 2010, 05:16:09 am
Still waiting for my breakout board to arrive in the mail so I can get a serial connection on my Letcool :)

i don't know exactly what it means, but sounds good...


@yoshi41 my experience with buttons are very bad! GBA is ok for me, just need more compatible emulator.... SNES is frustrating, there's no X button and MD (Genesis) is only worth to Sonic games! Sonic runs perfectly, because none of sonic games needs C button, wich is configured at power button, and power button is configured to run the menu of quitting game and save/load state, so, it's like C is not configured...

so , i'm waiting for better emulators too.
the hardware of spmp8000 is very good, but there's no support to development, no information, there's nothing!

but if maleaxx ported doom, so it's possible to port another stuff
Title: Re: JXD V3!!!
Post by: yoshi41 on June 24, 2010, 08:08:32 pm
Yeah, it's really too bad. The JXD hardware is pretty good, but they are too stupid to map the buttons. I use my JXD 1000 only for Castle of Illusions (SMD) where the buttons are configurable and Columns (SMD).

I still hope for a firmware update to fix this problem :(
Title: Re: JXD V3!!!
Post by: davdud101 on June 24, 2010, 08:10:13 pm
I would get one of the cheaper PSP shaped ones if I hadn't already owned a PSP.
Title: Re: JXD V3!!!
Post by: 1wiierdguy on June 26, 2010, 09:03:48 am
Here is a slightly smaller version of the V3. It has a 3.6" display. Kinda like the clamshell design.

http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/319654551/YDPG66.html

If you scroll down there are quite a few new designs. I like the look of the YDP-G65.
Man there's a new pmp on the market every day now it seems.
Title: Re: JXD V3!!!
Post by: darfgarf on June 26, 2010, 09:09:54 am
there's always been a new pmp each day, just you never noticed it till coming here  ;D
Title: Re: JXD V3!!!
Post by: davdud101 on June 28, 2010, 01:27:24 am
I agree. Its like every day, I serch PMP's online, find something new, then the next day, same deal.
Title: Re: JXD V3!!!
Post by: 10basetom on June 28, 2010, 07:13:29 am
The YDP-G65 and other devices from Yinlips are covered on this thread:

http://boards.dingoonity.org/other-game-systems/so-what-else-is-out-there-(real-devices-concepts-and-vaporware)/
Title: Re: JXD V3!!!
Post by: hedgehog88 on July 24, 2010, 11:45:31 pm
there's a new firmware available on JXD website in case you own (like me) a nice V3 or JXD1000 : better emulation and finally better button mapping (even if triggers are vol +/- on GBA...) Anyway, all that to say JXD is updating firmware, at least once a year !!!
 :-\
Title: Re: JXD V3!!!
Post by: yoshi41 on July 25, 2010, 01:13:31 pm
there's a new firmware available on JXD website in case you own (like me) a nice V3 or JXD1000 : better emulation and finally better button mapping (even if triggers are vol +/- on GBA...) Anyway, all that to say JXD is updating firmware, at least once a year !!!
 :-\

Do you mean the firmware from 2010-6-8 ?

I have installed it on my JXD 1000.

(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2009/08/psp-clone-20090828-2.jpg)

The button mapping is unfortunately still quite stupid:

Sega MD (Genesis)

A = Circle
B = X
C = Select

Nintendo SNES

A = Circle
B = X
X = Select
Y = Square and Triangle
L = R
R = L

Nintendo NES

A = Circle
B = X

Nintendo GBA

A = Circle
B = X
R = Square
L = Select

Nintendo GBC

A = Circle
B = X

NES and GBC are ok (they have only 2 buttons anyway).

The button mapping for SMD, SMC and GBA is still beyond my imagination (especially mappings to Select and swapping L/R). :o Six button pad on SMD is not emulated.

Is it any better on the JXD V3 ?
Title: Re: JXD V3!!!
Post by: hedgehog88 on July 29, 2010, 01:28:00 pm
no, there's a new firmware from july, named spk1410, that is significantly better; key mapping isn't perfect though on the V3 (no shoulder buttons as soooo many complain here) but the media part is improved for sure and videos are playing very well.

I like that device personaly but I must admit I don't use it to play games a lot; but it's good to see JXD puts some efforts to improve their nice little devices. the JXD200 seems pretty too...

About frmware, again, it's for the V3, and I have a jxd1000 as well and wouldn't try to put it on it even if it's "working"...
Title: Re: JXD V3!!!
Post by: markzhu520 on August 02, 2010, 07:32:20 am
not bad,but  i perfer to littel dingoo.  :)
Title: Re: JXD V3!!!
Post by: yoshi41 on October 02, 2010, 11:52:20 pm
I have updated my JXD 1000 with a new firmware, button mapping is now much better :)

I took this boot code: http://jxd.cc/downfile.asp?id=230 (http://jxd.cc/downfile.asp?id=230)

And this program + binary file: http://jxd.cc/downfile.asp?id=231 (http://jxd.cc/downfile.asp?id=231)
Title: Re: JXD V3!!!
Post by: quartercast on October 03, 2010, 09:25:58 pm
cool, how well does the JXD 1000 perform? I used to have a JXD301, it's sitting somewhere gathering dust :)
Title: Re: JXD V3!!!
Post by: yoshi41 on October 10, 2010, 01:13:23 pm
cool, how well does the JXD 1000 perform? I used to have a JXD301, it's sitting somewhere gathering dust :)

I don't have a JXD301, so I can't compare.

But anyway, I have the Dingoo, Wiz, Caanoo and some chinese PMPs including the JXD1000.

IMHO, only the Dingoo, Wiz and Caanoo are really worth the money.
Title: Re: JXD V3!!!
Post by: davdud101 on November 07, 2010, 01:05:41 pm
Bump... Sorry I haven't been on in a while. The JXD1000 doesn't look bad, but no matter what I end up getting, I has to emulate GBA *or* SNES with reasonable speed and compatibility, along with a low price, like one of those PSP shaped ones.
Title: Re: JXD V3!!!
Post by: gibberish on November 08, 2010, 01:45:19 pm
why are you so obsessed with jxd products? their software and build quality is CRAP. get a dingoo, it emulates everything you want almost flawlessly. support from the community is amazing and they're built well.

or wait for the gemei a330.
Title: Re: JXD V3!!!
Post by: davdud101 on November 08, 2010, 08:13:47 pm
I honestly would like the gemei x760+, if it has shoulder buttons. Dingoo seems pretty cool, but I kinda expanded my list of stuff i could get.
Title: Re: JXD V3!!!
Post by: gibberish on November 09, 2010, 10:31:25 pm
a dingoo essentially IS an x760+ with shoulder buttons.
Title: Re: JXD V3!!!
Post by: davdud101 on November 09, 2010, 11:04:50 pm
But price is the main thing here, for me... I'm really looking for a GP2X F200 or a VocaMaster.
Title: Re: JXD V3!!!
Post by: gibberish on November 10, 2010, 12:30:34 pm
you're looking for something new every day, it seems you have no idea what you want or why you even want it. how can you say that "price is the main thing" when a second hand f200 off ebay costs more than a dingoo?

honestly, i'm beginning to wonder if you're some kind of elaborate troll. or perhaps you're RedBaron from the GP2X forums.....
Title: Re: JXD V3!!!
Post by: davdud101 on November 10, 2010, 08:09:14 pm
Okay what I'm really looking for is an inexpensive device that allows GBA, and perhaps SNES+MD/GEN emulation. I am not a troll, and I actually never figured out what a troll is... So there. I ant got much cash, so the cheaper as compared to build quality and functionability, the better.
Title: Re: JXD V3!!!
Post by: davdud101 on November 10, 2010, 09:02:52 pm
Actually I know exactly what it is... Beside GBA emu, I just GOTTA have something alongside this iPhone!!!
Title: Re: JXD V3!!!
Post by: Friendly Neighborhood Dingoonity Troll on November 10, 2010, 09:33:42 pm
Okay what I'm really looking for is an inexpensive device that allows GBA, and perhaps SNES+MD/GEN emulation.

Then a Dingoo A320 (with Dingux installed) is exactly what you want. Well, you also need a miniSD card (or a microSD card with a miniSD adapter) to install Dingux. But you can get a 4GB one for like $~10 on ebay I think.

You said your brothers said it sucked? :o Is this also why your dad won't let you have it?
Title: Re: JXD V3!!!
Post by: yoshi41 on November 10, 2010, 09:39:37 pm
I ant got much cash, so the cheaper as compared to build quality and functionability, the better.

The best value for money is definitively the Dingoo (http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.23032). Trust me, I have a lot of hardware. (http://boards.dingoonity.org/modern-consoles/what-systems-do-you-have/msg18018/#msg18018)
Title: Re: JXD V3!!!
Post by: davdud101 on November 10, 2010, 10:03:42 pm
Wow, I guess now I'd actually have some reviews/content to prove that the Dingoo might be worth it. Turns Purim allowed to get one, just unfortunately I'd have to fund it entirely on my own. IDk where I'll get $100,but who knows... The most important reason my dad doesn't want me to get one is because it's been known to have an not so good build
Quality, and Im prone to breaking stuff soon after get it, so I need something durable, too.
Title: Re: JXD V3!!!
Post by: Friendly Neighborhood Dingoonity Troll on November 10, 2010, 11:29:53 pm
Well, it's true that the build quality isn't up to par with big names like Apple, Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo.

The thing is, compared to all the other cheap PMPs you've shown interest in; the A320 beats them hands down. I believe that's the consensus, anyway. Even if some other cheap PMP had better build quality, they still don't have the great homebrew community that the A320 has.

Even if you end up getting a dud A320, just send it back for a new one. I'm sure http://www.dingoo-digital-usa.com/ will be happy to see you get a good working A320. He's seems like a good, sincere guy.

Your best other option would be to wait to see how the new Gemei A330 turns out.

Or you could go for the GPH Wiz/Caanoo. But that's like, twice the price. Not really cheap.

Or you could go for the supposed king, the Pandora. But that's OUT OF THE QUESTION, price wise.
Title: Re: JXD V3!!!
Post by: davdud101 on November 10, 2010, 11:47:44 pm
If i can get a Dingoo for around $70 or less, I'd be good. So will dingoo-digital-usa replace/repair it if I happen to break it on my own, while it's under warranty? However, if anyone has a cheap, used or new Dingoo (color doesn't matter, preferably black), I'd like to buy it. Not really looking at the A330, though. No way I could ever touch a Pandora, maybe I could get close to a Wiz.
Title: Re: JXD V3!!!
Post by: gibberish on November 11, 2010, 10:29:43 am
for the sake of an extra $10 just get it from DX.
or you could certainly pick up a second hand one off ebay for less than $70.
Title: Re: JXD V3!!!
Post by: hedgehog88 on November 11, 2010, 07:07:30 pm
well, there's the new A16 out now, for the JXD's fans, extra-flat, touch screen and G-sensor !
Title: Re: JXD V3!!!
Post by: davdud101 on November 11, 2010, 08:00:15 pm
The A16 looks amazing but it has mo shoulder buttons... I might get a Second hand from eBay.
Title: Re: JXD V3!!!
Post by: gibberish on November 11, 2010, 08:00:41 pm
yeah, it doesn't have a proper dpad or any shoulder buttons so that's a failure right from the off. add to that the fact that jxd SUCK at optimising emulators and their build quality is questionable at best, and you have a few good reasons to avoid a16 like the plague.
Title: Re: JXD V3!!!
Post by: davdud101 on November 11, 2010, 09:26:22 pm
So does JXD then use the same emulators+firmware for all thier devices? I'm gonna wait til a little adfter Christmas when iget some cash before I make my purchase, so latest at this rate should be Q1 or Q2 of next year.
Title: Re: JXD V3!!!
Post by: flaming_goat on November 11, 2010, 09:28:42 pm
The A16 doesn't look very great to me ??? Its an Iphone ripoff with buttons and no phone capabilitys, the screen is probably rubbish too. Get the Caanoo if you want a touchscreen on an emulator.
Title: Re: JXD V3!!!
Post by: gibberish on November 11, 2010, 10:08:01 pm
So does JXD then use the same emulators+firmware for all thier devices? I'm gonna wait til a little adfter Christmas when iget some cash before I make my purchase, so latest at this rate should be Q1 or Q2 of next year.

i would bet my last ? that every chinese firm has taken emulator source code written by developers like the ones on here and gp32x and ported them to their own devices instead of writing their own from scratch. we know this to be true for the gba and snes emulators on the dingoo, and i bet if scrutinised you would find it to be the case on every other machine too. the difference is that some firms take the time to make a decent, optimised port that runs games well, and others use quick and dirty tactics to make the emulator "work" (in the loosest sense of the word). JXD are from the latter group, their emulator ports are poor at best.
Title: Re: JXD V3!!!
Post by: davdud101 on November 11, 2010, 11:20:46 pm
So then they're all getting thier source code from one place and not attempting to optimize at all? These devices (specifically JXD) could be really good if their code was to be better suited to the hardware.
Title: Re: JXD V3!!!
Post by: gibberish on November 12, 2010, 08:29:35 am
the stock emulators on the a320 are optimised well, with the exception of mega drive. the gba emulator is excellent. i have faith that the emulators on the a330 will be even better... we'll see.
Title: Re: JXD V3!!!
Post by: davdud101 on November 12, 2010, 08:20:11 pm
Wait dingoos GBA is good??? Wrap it up!!! Jk, just more reason for me to get one.
Title: Re: JXD V3!!!
Post by: ati999 on December 26, 2010, 11:53:04 pm
Wait dingoos GBA is good??? Wrap it up!!! Jk, just more reason for me to get one.



Hello

I am very new in this site, please help me how to upgrade the firmware on a JXD V3?

I have download the latest firmware, but the FRM software is so strange for me, i can not use it, I do not want to break my device.

regards