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Other Portable Consoles => Ingenic JZ47xx Devices => RetroMini/RS-90 => Topic started by: kokokool on May 30, 2019, 07:23:54 pm
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First of all thanks to everyone who spent the hard and tedious work to port apps, games and emulators to the RS90. Considering the great amount of handhelds out there and waay more powerful than this device, having the RS90 flashed and be able to have better gaming compatibility, as well as unimaginable ports, is a dream come true, personally.
I would like to open this topic and dedicate it to everyone who does not even have the expertise in programming at this stage but also, who wants to think about ports that are missing for this machine. If there's some game/app/emulator that is already ported, please feel free to quote and share the link.
Wish list?
- Atari 2600/800xl - Stella?
- Mame (romset 0.37b5 or 0.74), FBA, CPS1-CPS2
- SNES
- Wonderswan
- MSX
- Dosbox
- Nes (better audio/performance compatibility)
- Java games
- Open Tyrian
- Quake1-2
- Scummvm
- A Simple Calculator (as it is)
- Commodore64 (C64 or Vice)
- ZXSpectrum
Any thoughts?
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First of all thanks to everyone who spent the hard and tedious work to port apps, games and emulators to the RS90. Considering the great amount of handhelds out there and waay more powerful than this device, having the RS90 flashed and be able to have better gaming compatibility, as well as unimaginable ports, is a dream come true, personally.
I would like to open this topic and dedicate it to everyone who does not even have the expertise in programming at this stage but also, who wants to think about ports that are missing for this machine. If there's some game/app/emulator that is already ported, please feel free to quote and share the link.
Wish list?
- Atari 2600/800xl - Stella?
- Mame (romset 0.37b5 or 0.74), FBA, CPS1-CPS2
- SNES
- Wonderswan
- MSX
- Dosbox
- Nes (better audio/performance compatibility)
- Java games
- Open Tyrian
- Quake1-2
- Scummvm
- A Simple Calculator (as it is)
- Commodore64 (C64 or Vice)
- ZXSpectrum
Any thoughts?
I'll play along for the sake of keeping the conversation going. Personal opinions mostly, but putting in any valid information I might have. I am not a developer or any kind of expert. Again, just keeping the conversation going.
- Atari 2600/800xl - Stella? - I personally don't care about this one, but I assume it's possible.
- Mame (romset 0.37b5 or 0.74), FBA, CPS1-CPS2 - FBA is going to be too much I'd guess. Mame is something I hope Slaanesh gets to. (I think he's working on it)
- SNES - Steward in theory has a work in progress going for SNES9X. I'm hoping to have a Beta build in the next several days. It apparently doesn't have sound working yet. Not sure how much to expect.
- Wonderswan - I'd like this. I'm sure it's possible, though Gameblabla did mention it might not run well here.
- MSX - Steward laughed when Jutleys asked about this one, and then never answered it in detail. I took that as a sign that this would be hard to run, but I don't honestly know.
- Dosbox - Another one I don't have any particular interest in, but I assume it would be around Bittboy levels if someone put time in to it.
- Nes (better audio/performance compatibility) - I actually prefer the better compatibility to faster speeds. Lowering sound quality, or killing it all together fixes any issues I typically have. So, I wouldn't mind if someone played with Nester or something, but I'm happy here.
- Java games
- Open Tyrian - I assume it should be doable. Have you tried the GBA port? (I don't have my RS-90 in front of me)
- Quake1-2 - Doom, and Wolf3D are already here. I imagine it's doable.
- Scummvm - Should be doable, but no idea how good it would be?
- A Simple Calculator (as it is) - Hmmm, I can't imagine this would be a problem, but /shrug.
- Commodore64 (C64 or Vice) - Euro Computers, and I'm American. Doesn't interest me personally. :)
- ZXSpectrum - See my C64 Reply, but even less.
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First of all thanks to everyone who spent the hard and tedious work to port apps, games and emulators to the RS90. Considering the great amount of handhelds out there and waay more powerful than this device, having the RS90 flashed and be able to have better gaming compatibility, as well as unimaginable ports, is a dream come true, personally.
I would like to open this topic and dedicate it to everyone who does not even have the expertise in programming at this stage but also, who wants to think about ports that are missing for this machine. If there's some game/app/emulator that is already ported, please feel free to quote and share the link.
Wish list?
- Atari 2600/800xl - Stella?
- Mame (romset 0.37b5 or 0.74), FBA, CPS1-CPS2
- SNES
- Wonderswan
- MSX
- Dosbox
- Nes (better audio/performance compatibility)
- Java games
- Open Tyrian
- Quake1-2
- Scummvm
- A Simple Calculator (as it is)
- Commodore64 (C64 or Vice)
- ZXSpectrum
Any thoughts?
I'll play along for the sake of keeping the conversation going. Personal opinions mostly, but putting in any valid information I might have. I am not a developer or any kind of expert. Again, just keeping the conversation going.
- Atari 2600/800xl - Stella? - I personally don't care about this one, but I assume it's possible.
- Mame (romset 0.37b5 or 0.74), FBA, CPS1-CPS2 - FBA is going to be too much I'd guess. Mame is something I hope Slaanesh gets to. (I think he's working on it)
- SNES - Steward in theory has a work in progress going for SNES9X. I'm hoping to have a Beta build in the next several days. It apparently doesn't have sound working yet. Not sure how much to expect.
- Wonderswan - I'd like this. I'm sure it's possible, though Gameblabla did mention it might not run well here.
- MSX - Steward laughed when Jutleys asked about this one, and then never answered it in detail. I took that as a sign that this would be hard to run, but I don't honestly know.
- Dosbox - Another one I don't have any particular interest in, but I assume it would be around Bittboy levels if someone put time in to it.
- Nes (better audio/performance compatibility) - I actually prefer the better compatibility to faster speeds. Lowering sound quality, or killing it all together fixes any issues I typically have. So, I wouldn't mind if someone played with Nester or something, but I'm happy here.
- Java games
- Open Tyrian - I assume it should be doable. Have you tried the GBA port? (I don't have my RS-90 in front of me)
- Quake1-2 - Doom, and Wolf3D are already here. I imagine it's doable.
- Scummvm - Should be doable, but no idea how good it would be?
- A Simple Calculator (as it is) - Hmmm, I can't imagine this would be a problem, but /shrug.
- Commodore64 (C64 or Vice) - Euro Computers, and I'm American. Doesn't interest me personally. :)
- ZXSpectrum - See my C64 Reply, but even less.
Thats the purpose mate!!!, make this conversation alive. Theres no other way.
Good summary!
I have MSX through msx2sms tweak and runs pretty well.
From commodore theres just one one i want and that is Panther, thats all.
Dosbox, prince of persia kinda games
Mame perhaps ancient romsets but hope not far from aero fighters.
Lol
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I already have a MAME4ALL v2.0 build on this.
The limiting factor is really the RS90's screen size vs the emulated game screen size.
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I already have a MAME4ALL v2.0 build on this.
The limiting factor is really the RS90's screen size vs the emulated game screen size.
Would you share to test it out?
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There's no front end yet. You would need to ssh into your RS90 and launch games from the command line :)
I'll see if I can do something about a frontend this weekend.
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There's no front end yet. You would need to ssh into your RS90 and launch games from the command line :)
I'll see if I can do something about a frontend this weekend.
Take your time!
Thanks4all
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- Quake1-2 - Doom, and Wolf3D are already here. I imagine it's doable.
Wolf3D ONLY demo version :( get more out of it full version it is impossible :(
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I guess it's Tyrian 2000 on GBA, and GBC. I did just test them though. Both Prototype Roms seem to work.
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I guess it's Tyrian 2000 on GBA, and GBC. I did just test them though. Both Prototype Roms seem to work.
Completely agree!. Played Tyrian2000 GBA
So, as an update of this:
- Atari 2600/800xl - Stella?
- SNES
- Wonderswan - I'd like this. I'm sure it's possible, though Gameblabla did mention it might not run well here.
- MSX
- Dosbox
- Nes (better audio/performance compatibility)
- Java games
- Open Tyrian - I assume it should be doable. Have you tried the GBA port? (I don't have my RS-90 in front of me)
- Quake1-2
- Scummvm
- A Simple Calculator (as it is)
- Commodore64 (C64 or Vice)
- ZXSpectrum
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I guess it's Tyrian 2000 on GBA, and GBC. I did just test them though. Both Prototype Roms seem to work.
Completely agree!. Played Tyrian2000 GBA
So, as an update of this:
- Atari 2600/800xl - Stella?
- SNES
- Wonderswan - I'd like this. I'm sure it's possible, though Gameblabla did mention it might not run well here.
- MSX
- Dosbox
- Nes (better audio/performance compatibility)
- Java games
- Open Tyrian - I assume it should be doable. Have you tried the GBA port? (I don't have my RS-90 in front of me)
- Quake1-2
- Scummvm
- A Simple Calculator (as it is)
- Commodore64 (C64 or Vice)
- ZXSpectrum
Also flash games would be cool to have.
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I guess it's Tyrian 2000 on GBA, and GBC. I did just test them though. Both Prototype Roms seem to work.
Completely agree!. Played Tyrian2000 GBA
So, as an update of this:
- Atari 2600/800xl - Stella?
- SNES
- Wonderswan - I'd like this. I'm sure it's possible, though Gameblabla did mention it might not run well here.
- MSX
- Dosbox
- Nes (better audio/performance compatibility)
- Java games
- Open Tyrian - I assume it should be doable. Have you tried the GBA port? (I don't have my RS-90 in front of me)
- Quake1-2
- Scummvm
- A Simple Calculator (as it is)
- Commodore64 (C64 or Vice)
- ZXSpectrum
Also flash games would be cool to have.
Yes!
Also a screen keyboard to make changes to the cfg files through commander app.
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Me, I'd love to see a Mega Drive emulator, and a video player app. Someone in another thread mentioned PicoDrive for RS-90 but I haven't seen it anywhere?
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Me, I'd love to see a Mega Drive emulator, and a video player app. Someone in another thread mentioned PicoDrive for RS-90 but I haven't seen it anywhere?
https://github.com/steward-fu/rs90
It's with Steward's emulators for the RS-90. Runs decently well, but the resolution looks pretty rough.
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Me, I'd love to see a Mega Drive emulator, and a video player app. Someone in another thread mentioned PicoDrive for RS-90 but I haven't seen it anywhere?
Mate, megadeive was already ported to the rs90. Check Jutleys sticky post.
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Guys, Any progress in mame4all and snes?
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1. .txt reader with large file support, with
The main use case for this would be for reading game walkthroughs such as those found on gamefaqs. Some files are pretty big (https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/gba/930370-final-fantasy-vi-advance/faqs/64374 , 1.6 MiB plaintext), and it would also be convenient to have a bookmark type feature (what line of the file you were on) and a control-f style search would be great.
2. .txt editor (read + write), only needs to work on small files
It would be nice to be able to make small edits to .cfg files on device, without having to involve another computer.
I'd actually use those two features semi-regularly if they were available. Just for fun:
3. Image viewer
4. Some type of mspaint-style image creator
5. A video player. GBA Video cartridges seem to run fine in ReGBA, so it would seem to have enough grunt for some type of rudimentary playback.
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Hello, does anyone know who uploaded the snes9x emulator to the rs90?
link for download snes9x: https://mega.nz/#F!howVFYyL!uHD_8KPC-hySEHoRqAQJRw
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Hello, does anyone know who uploaded the snes9x emulator to the rs90?
link for download snes9x: https://mega.nz/#F!howVFYyL!uHD_8KPC-hySEHoRqAQJRw
Assuming that it's the build without sound that doesn't run very well. It's one Steward ported but moved on to other systems before getting very far with it.
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Hello, does anyone know who uploaded the snes9x emulator to the rs90?
link for download snes9x: https://mega.nz/#F!howVFYyL!uHD_8KPC-hySEHoRqAQJRw
Assuming that it's the build without sound that doesn't run very well. It's one Steward ported but moved on to other systems before getting very far with it.
I understand, someone could continue this work. thanks man.
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Snes9x perform a bit choppy cant configure buttons and adjust screen since when L abd R is pressed it jumps back tocthe menu
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Jonathan Holmes has released Midnight Wild for the LDK Game and Bittboy, might be a good fit for the RS-90 given it was originally an Arduboy game and has tiny resolution requirements. Source is on his site here:
http://crait.net
(http://crait.net/i/MidnightWildBittBoy2.png)
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Jonathan Holmes has released Midnight Wild for the LDK Game and Bittboy, might be a good fit for the RS-90 given it was originally an Arduboy game and has tiny resolution requirements. Source is on his site here:
http://crait.net
(http://crait.net/i/MidnightWildBittBoy2.png)
No source = No port.
That being said, i could ask him for a copy of it but i probably won't bother.
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okay, lets get the wish list (by my opinion) straight:
- Atari 2600/800xl: MUST BE!, MUST BE!, MUST BE! (Wish Games: RS Basketball, Combat, )
- Mame: not that important but: (Wish Games: Red Baron, Reactor, Millipede )
- SNES: a version of PocketSNES for the RS90 would be Nice
- Wonderswan: ???
- MSX: you can use MSXAdvance through ReGBA
- Dosbox: would be a good idea (Wish Games: Virtuoso, 3D Body Adventure, )
- Nes (better audio/performance compatibility): could be a good idea
- Java games: MUST BE!, MUST BE!, MUST BE! (Wish Games: Mercury Meltdown, Air Strike, Luxor, Ricochet Bricks )
- Open Tyrian: Can be a Very Good idea (otherwise just stick around with the GBC Version)
- Quake1-2: not important, except you want to play the whole Retro ID Software FPS Trilogy
- Scummvm: not Important
- A Simple Calculator: A TI 83 Plus Would Be Better
- Commodore64 (C64 or Vice): Can Be a GREAT Thing (Wish Games: Arkanoid 1, Blood Money, )
- ZXSpectrum: you can use ZXAdvance through ReGBA
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As i said in the DM you sent to me, i had already made available a port of Oswan and FCEUX for the RS-90.
So you can take these off your list.
Steward-fu already did a port of PocketSNES too.
As for everything else, don't count on it. Especially MAME.
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As i said in the DM you sent to me, i had already made available a port of Oswan and FCEUX for the RS-90.
So you can take these off your list.
Steward-fu already did a port of PocketSNES too.
As for everything else, don't count on it. Especially MAME.
Yeah but it has been months since those releases. Some other guys was working on mame port for rs90, and ... paf !!! Dunno that status.
Not very friendly from you as i can see. Was just a question mate
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Yeah but it has been months since those releases. Some other guys was working on mame port for rs90, and ... paf !!! Dunno that status.
Not very friendly from you as i can see. Was just a question mate
I wasn't talking to you but the guy above. It still kills me that some people to this day still ask me for an Oswan port even though i had already done so a while ago.
Given that i have now ported Stella to the RS-90 (it runs okay), then i guess it could be taken off the list too.
Honestly, FBA is going to be more doable on it than MAME...
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now I have to say a thing, nes could run fine, if you just play the nes games through pocketnes on gba.
the same goes for Colecovision and ZX Spectrum.
You don't have to do Mame, Honestly!
also:
I did not wanted to hurt your Feelings :P
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Is there a way to make atari 800 in rs90?
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Is there a way to make atari 800 in rs90?
That requires (like almost all vintage computer emulators) a virtual keyboard and i really don't want to step
into that territory...
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can some java ports of 2000 games such as luxor or mercury meltdown be ported (not straight up emulated)
if not, then i wish to play games programmed in scratch (file extension: .sb, .sb2)
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here is a little hint for speeding up stella:
set up the clock frequency to 438 (not 456, because the emulator will freeze in 3-5 seconds)
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here is a little hint for speeding up stella:
set up the clock frequency to 438 (not 456, because the emulator will freeze in 3-5 seconds)
I did recommend overcloking in some cases for Stella. (because some games would not run smoothly)
Also the overclocking is very much device-dependent. My RS-90 supports 456 with no issues.
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so much about this
can some java ports of 2000 games such as luxor or mercury meltdown be ported (not straight up emulated)
if not, then i wish to play games programmed in scratch (file extension: .sb, .sb2)
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dear folks
opentyrian is not going to happen on the RS90 because the Rs90 Screen is to small and scaling the game would look
way to poopy for the real etyrian Experience
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i would like to suggest some game ports
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i would like to suggest some game ports
Please
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and what about neo geo pocket, this could also be a good idea
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why is there just wonderswan, i want neo geo pocket
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First of all a greeting ;), I think it is very important a media player in the RetroMini, with the original firmware you could play music and video without any problem, I used it as a multimedia device, but now with the new firmware, I only found an opk GMU that does not play anything correctly, for example with an mp3 file there are continuous cuts ???. https://mega.nz/#F!howVFYyL!uHD_8KPC-hySEHoRqAQJRw. Originally the ingenic chips were manufactured for multimedia players (audio and video), I do not understand that the functionality in this device is lost :'(
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First of all a greeting ;),
I think it is very important a media player in the RetroMini, with the original firmware you could play music and video without any problem, I used it as a multimedia device, but now with the new firmware, I only found an opk GMU that does not play anything correctly, for example with an mp3 file there are continuous cuts ???. https://mega.nz/#F!howVFYyL!uHD_8KPC-hySEHoRqAQJRw. Originally the ingenic chips were manufactured for multimedia players (audio and video), I do not understand that the functionality in this device is lost :'(
Welcome !! :)
I would like to see a good solid media player that supports lots of media formats /codecs... I found many files do not play well across ingenic devices, which is a shame really.
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Thanks ace9094, we really need a wearable media player, recovering the functionality of the original operating system, it was not the best in the world ::) but it worked .
A functional player, and a more stable version of the latest opendingux available that does not hang constantly and an emulator for neogeo pocket would be great.
But well I understand that one thing behind the other, any of the improvements will be welcome.
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Thanks ace9094, we really need a wearable media player, recovering the functionality of the original operating system, it was not the best in the world ::) but it worked .
A functional player, and a more stable version of the latest opendingux available that does not hang constantly and an emulator for neogeo pocket would be great.
But well I understand that one thing behind the other, any of the improvements will be welcome.
Can you give more information and context about what is leading up to the system hanging?
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It happens with OpenDingux release 2019.06.01, the console is the v3 version that contained 169 games in the Chinese firm, the flash chip is the hynix model. I think it is the model that is currently manufactured.
Freezing occurs very frequently with the reGBA emulator, sometimes when playing a game for the first time and more frequently when leaving one and opening another the probability of freezing increases.
With temper, smsplus, picodrive spend less, but it also happens.
When using chocolate doom it hangs with large wad's, the GMU player is not usable, mp3 sound cuts are heard every few seconds, I don't know if it is due to the same problem.
Sometimes reGBA crashes shortly after starting the game, there are others that almost never fail, I think there is a problem with memory management.
Rarely when starting the machine for the first time it also freezes before starting the graphic environment, when it is turned on again it is solved. Always turn off the console before the menu option, maybe that is the reason that sometimes causes the retromini not to start after a long period of time off.
I do not know if all this comes from the new memory compression system, it is impossible that it is a console problem, with the original Chinese firmware I never failed or hung up (I have used it for many months without problems). With the old firmware, emulate almost 200 roms of GameBoy Advance and when one was not compatible it simply went to the Chinese menu, it never froze.
The Watchdog never seems to work, you have to force the shutdown manually, which can cause excessive wear of the switch.
I don't know if there is any way to disable memory compression in case this is the problem.
I hope to provide enough details, greetings Surkow.
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Thanks for the extensive response. This could be a RAM or NAND corruption issue. Did you experience any issues with the initial firmware release or did you only install the most recent version? Perhaps @pcercuei can give a more insightful response.
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In the previous version 2019.05.17 it did not happen, the days I was using that version, the console did not work badly. The disadvantage of returning to the previous version would be to lose all the improvements of that revision, among them the easy access to the internal flash memory or that the values were saved as the brightness when turning it off.
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I'll try to make a new FW when Linux 5.4 is released, in about 3 weeks.
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I'll try to make a new FW when Linux 5.4 is released, in about 3 weeks.
That would be really appreciated. Most of the device works well. If only we could turn it off without problem, keep the lightning settings and find a way to indicate low battery, would be amazing.
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Great, thanks for continuing to support the little RetroMini and the community :D
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is there a text reader for this version of RS90 Opendingux?
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Does anyone know where is the source of those GMU packages in Jutley's repository (https://mega.nz/#F!ghIUCTyR!MY2yxhW6SvMeycT4Io9WPA)? I believe I found why these sound cuts happen. The mpg123 library needs to be rebuilt.
I guess repackaging opk file with the new library should to the trick, but that's not very free software way of doing things.
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If GMU is compiled dynamically, as OS developers strongly suggest and as any sane person would do, then it's a matter of fixing the mpg123 library in the rootfs.
GMU's website is https://wej.k.vu/category/gmu/
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Haven't seen these libraries in rootfs (using OpenDingux release 2019.05.17 on my device). Usually they are bundled inside the opk/ipk/etc package with LD_LIBRARY_PATH set through shell script.
What I meant to say is that publishing modified opk without source will probably violate GPL licence. I guess it's not the right place to discuss such things, sorry.
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Haven't seen these libraries in rootfs (using OpenDingux release 2019.05.17 on my device). Usually they are bundled inside the opk/ipk/etc package with LD_LIBRARY_PATH set through shell script.
Now that the MP3 patents expired I can add it to the rootfs. What is the fix you were talking about?
What I meant to say is that publishing modified opk without source will probably violate GPL licence. I guess it's not the right place to discuss such things, sorry.
Yes, unfortunately some people seem to think that "open" in "open consoles" just means "custom firmware", and don't try to play by the rules.
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What is the fix you were talking about?
Haven't thought of or looked upon anything yet, just noticed that this gmu build plays any other formats just fine, except for mp3.
I'll just try to adapt it again using the RS-97 port as a template then.
Update: It was built without the "--with-cpu=generic_nofpu" configure flag.
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can we have all the gcw emulators, that aren't yet on the rs90, such as:
Caprice32 (Amstrad)
DCaSTaway (Atari ST)
FBA - Final Burn Alpha (Arcade Machine/NeoGeo)
Race (NeoGeo Pocket)
UnrealSpeccy (ZX-Spectrum)
Vectrex (Dingux-Vectrex Port)
Mame4all (Multiple Arcade)
i wish, this could come true
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Neo-Geo Pocket would be great if it were emulated in the RetroMini. I do not see the problem, the RS-90 has a 240x160 screen and the NG Pocket 160x152, in terms of power I think it would be left over. Do you think it would be possible? ;)
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I already have a MAME4ALL v2.0 build on this.
The limiting factor is really the RS90's screen size vs the emulated game screen size.
Hey! Long time no see
Can you share mame4all v2.0 you had?
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can we have all the gcw emulators, that aren't yet on the rs90, such as:
Caprice32 (Amstrad)
DCaSTaway (Atari ST)
FBA - Final Burn Alpha (Arcade Machine/NeoGeo)
Race (NeoGeo Pocket)
UnrealSpeccy (ZX-Spectrum)
Vectrex (Dingux-Vectrex Port)
Mame4all (Multiple Arcade)
i wish, this could come true
Race exists i guess
Mame4all or ST could the best thing that rs90 could have
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Jonathan Holmes has released Midnight Wild for the LDK Game and Bittboy, might be a good fit for the RS-90 given it was originally an Arduboy game and has tiny resolution requirements. Source is on his site here:
http://crait.net
(http://crait.net/i/MidnightWildBittBoy2.png)
No source = No port.
That being said, i could ask him for a copy of it but i probably won't bother.
I spoke to jonathan and he said:
Hey, Daniel! I'm actually getting really excited to start porting my games to new systems, actually, so it's super coincidental that you've messaged me!
Currently, I'm looking to port Circuit Dude (and maybe Midnight Wild) to Windows CE 3, Palm OS 4.0, RG-350, PS Vita, and maybe the Gamebuino Meta and ODROID. I'm planning to live stream most of this on my YouTube channel, too! http://www.youtube.com/crait
I'm thinking that the systems I game dev on will be decided by viewer choice of some kind. This will also be done after Circuit Dude is officially sent off to Nintendo for the Switch and I finish my current PS Vita Unity board game
Sorry for the ramble, but I don't think Wii will be a system I'd find enjoyable to work with because I like to work with handheld systems. I also don't own a Wii. :P
For the RS-90, I do not have one... But, i have heard that the RS-90 uses the same binaries as the LDK Game. Perhaps I may be thinking of the RS-97/RG-300.... I also don't have an RS-90, so I really couldn't work on that, either.
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https://github.com/steward-fu/rs90
It's with Steward's emulators for the RS-90.
The place seems to be unavailable.
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DOS would be tremendous
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hello, i have got some ideas:
intellivision and gameking by timetop
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Any video player?