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raygan (OP)

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Which version of Final Fantasy III/VI should I play?
« on: May 08, 2012, 04:55:16 am »
Hi all!

I'm thiiiis close to finishing Chrono Trigger on my Dingoo (holy crap that is a great game!) and I'm trying to decide what RPG to play next. I'm leaning toward Final Fantasy III/VI (III in the US, VI in Japan.)

Because the game has multiple translations and ports, I'm wondering which version would be best. Since I will need to play in English, my options seem to include:

  • The original US SNES release from 1994
  • The GBA release from 2006
  • A Japanese rom patched with an English translation
  • A GBA rom with patches to adjust the color and sound to more closely match the SNES version

What do you all suggest? I am leaning toward the patched GBA rom, because I've heard that is the best translation, but I'd love to hear from someone who's played the game, possibly in multiple versions.

Also, is there more than one translation patch for the Japanese SNES version? The main one I'm finding is from RPGOne.

Hagane023

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Re: Which version of Final Fantasy III/VI should I play?
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2012, 08:06:40 am »
I would pick the gba version, it's slightly prettier and the sound is better. The snes versions are all great, but gba just beats it for me. Also on the dingoo for some reason it is a little juddery to begin with on gba, but soon sorts itself out. I'd recommend seiken densetsu 3 on the snes or bahumut lagoon if you want to try some great translated games. ( radical dreamers is from the chronic series, but is not like you'd think).

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Re: Which version of Final Fantasy III/VI should I play?
« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2012, 09:14:55 am »
 WOOOOOW
I have just finished CT on my Dingoo :-D  what a coincidence
Well if you have not played FFIV (GBA) already than i highly suggest you to try it . It is so amazing (not better than CT of course but , still an amazing game )

Otherwise i suggest any english GBA port because the grafical preformance on Dingoo is better than on the SNES.

Smida3

BTW : What ending did you get ?  SLIGHT SPOILER ! i got the moonlight parade with my cats runnining into gate.
it is kinda sad that i do not know who is responcible for the gates ...

NI !

raygan (OP)

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Re: Which version of Final Fantasy III/VI should I play?
« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2012, 06:26:16 pm »
Thanks for the recommendations!
I'm going to go with the patched GBA version. I did a little side-by-side comparison of the two versions on my Dingoo and I prefer the color of the patched version. For future reference, here are the two patches I used. (Though I actually downloaded a pre-patched rom, you can Google "Final Fantasy VI Advance Restored" to find it.)

Color Restoration Patch http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/765/
Sound Restoration Patch http://www.romhacking.net/hacks/657/





Thanks also for the recommendations of seiken densetsu 3 and bahumut lagoon. I'll definitely check them out.

raygan (OP)

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Re: Which version of Final Fantasy III/VI should I play?
« Reply #4 on: May 15, 2012, 02:29:31 am »
OK I tried to play Final Fantasy VI Advance, but I am having a problem with saving.

In game saves don't seem to work; they always come up as being corrupt. GBATA isn't able to SRAM patch the game as far as I can tell.

Worse yet, Save States don't seem to work. Whenever I resume a save state, the audio freezes up into a loop, and if I start a battle all of the text is missing. It's unplayable.

Has anybody else tried this game in the Dingoo's native emulator? Any tricks I don't know about? I can play the SNES version, but I'd prefer to play the GBA translation for the reasons mentioned above.

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Re: Which version of Final Fantasy III/VI should I play?
« Reply #5 on: May 15, 2012, 04:04:07 am »
A friend of mine recently had the exact same problem. I suggested to him that he upgrade the firmware to 1.22 official, which he had 1.2, the one that the unit ships with usually. Then the GAME folder must be setup with the emulators within the GAME folder, but OUTSIDE of any subfolders in there.
If your problem still persists, i would be happy to email you my working emus and config datas, they seem to work like a charm after all else has failed.

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Re: Which version of Final Fantasy III/VI should I play?
« Reply #6 on: May 15, 2012, 04:46:04 am »
Thanks for the info. I'm currently set up with Dingoonity custom firmware 1.2b, with my GAME folder on my SD card rather than on the internal memory, and for a variety of reasons I'd rather not change this setup. I'd love if you'd send your config files so I could try that first. I'll PM you my email address.
If that doesn't work, do you have any idea if the 1.22 firmware can be modified to store the GAME directory on the SD card?

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Re: Which version of Final Fantasy III/VI should I play?
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2012, 05:59:18 am »
i sent the email with the requested data. No idea on the 1.22 modding, however, i find that using 1.22 official lets everything work just fine off the 4 gig built in mem. I know you said you weren't interested in changing your current setup, but just something to keep in mind in case of card slot failure, or any other such hardware issues.
I own a few custom A320s, resell normal units in my town on a semi-regular basis and i've had no trouble with any of my units that i have installed software for under this FW since i started my business early last year. Happy and quiet customers... :)
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raygan (OP)

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Re: Which version of Final Fantasy III/VI should I play?
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2012, 03:24:14 pm »
Hmm.

So far I've had no luck with this. First I tried your .sim file, which on my Dingoo freezes up on loading. I suspect that it is because yours is for HK Dingoos while mine is a pawed, non-HK Dingoo.

Then I tried updating to 1.22, which doesn't seem to have changed anything either. I have tried both with my standard GBA.sim and with the one you emailed me, which still crashes on launch on my Dingoo under 1.22.

I don't know what else to try, so I may have to give up on playing Final Fantasy VI Advance. The SNES version works fine under DingooSNES, so I suppose that will be my fallback. I'm a bit worried about this though, as there's a long list of GBA games I want to play and now I'm a bit worried about my ability to play them.  ???

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Re: Which version of Final Fantasy III/VI should I play?
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2012, 05:39:29 pm »
Dang, sorry bro, i should've sent a set of both versions. I'll send the pawed data asap. Also, when you try this, make sure you remove the old .sim and the .cfg, since they tend to sync together.
It should work fine.

Don't give up! i can fix it!
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raygan (OP)

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Re: Which version of Final Fantasy III/VI should I play?
« Reply #10 on: May 15, 2012, 09:18:31 pm »
Don't give up! i can fix it!
Love the enthusiasm!  :)

Unfortunately, even the second .sim/.cfg you sent is still having the freezing issue when loading saves. When I get home this evening I'll try seeing if I can get a different version of the rom from somewhere as that's the last thing I can think of to try.

In the end, I may just wait to play this on an Android handheld. I'm curiously eyeing the YDPG18A that Qbertaddict just got his hands on and may end up ordering one soon, or if not that then the YDPG16.

Thanks for your help Turkish!

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Re: Which version of Final Fantasy III/VI should I play?
« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2012, 02:34:47 am »
Anytime...

Well, if you ever get the itch to give it another try, i'd recommend backing up the data, formatting, adding data back and/or with stock emulator replacement and see if that works.

I'm at least 70% positive the Custom FirmWare is the culprit.

I learned to stear clear of them on my first week of troubleshooting with the Dingoo A320.
They're too screwy for my taste. Fancy sometimes, sure, but too unstable...
« Last Edit: May 16, 2012, 02:37:52 am by Turkish »

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Re: Which version of Final Fantasy III/VI should I play?
« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2012, 08:10:39 pm »
I am playing GBA FFVI now and I had the same issue with saving as well. However, I found a way around it on my Dingo A320 li938 pawed console:

Using the Save State in the GBA emu menu CORRUPTS the game file. If you want to use the save state for this game, use it FIRST and then save in the game menu options when at a save point or on the world map. The file will be corrupted, but when you save here, the corrupted file will be fixed.

Personally, I've beaten this game before on a SNES emu on my pc, so now playing it on the GBA emu on Dingoo already knowing what to expect in the game, when and where to level up, ect. I have found that using the save feature in the game menu options is enough for me and don't even use the save state because I find it unnecessary for this game. So my advice is either to not use the save state feature or if you do, use it FIRST and THEN save in the game options menu before you exit out of the game.

I LOVE THIS GAME! My only issue with it is that you have to do A LOT of leveling up, past the point of ad nauseum.  Because I've played it before and would like to continue on without having to level up so much, I'm curious about putting cheat codes for it on my dingoo. Does anyone know how to do this?

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Re: Which version of Final Fantasy III/VI should I play?
« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2012, 09:49:44 pm »
Play the game normally. Use only save states. But when you start the game again after exiting. you have to 'press any Button'on the warning screen. Then load from the title screen. Normal saves don't work. Used this trick on dda320 and dta330, firmware was stock. Works fine saving both ways on my s601.

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Re: Which version of Final Fantasy III/VI should I play?
« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2012, 10:43:01 pm »
I am playing GBA FFVI now and I had the same issue with saving as well. However, I found a way around it on my Dingo A320 li938 pawed console:

Using the Save State in the GBA emu menu CORRUPTS the game file. If you want to use the save state for this game, use it FIRST and then save in the game menu options when at a save point or on the world map. The file will be corrupted, but when you save here, the corrupted file will be fixed.

Holy crap it looks like you are right! I finally decided to try this again, and it looks like if I don't use the save state feature at all and only use the in game save that seems to work so far. Looks like the save state feature is corrupting the regular in-game save, just like you said. How weird! Thanks for the info!

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Re: Which version of Final Fantasy III/VI should I play?
« Reply #15 on: May 23, 2012, 11:19:41 pm »
Play the game normally. Use only save states. But when you start the game again after exiting. you have to 'press any Button'on the warning screen. Then load from the title screen. Normal saves don't work. Used this trick on dda320 and dta330, firmware was stock. Works fine saving both ways on my s601.

I tried this method as well and could not get it to work for me. Too bad.

 

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