Author Topic: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld  (Read 116478 times)

eltehero

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Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
« Reply #80 on: September 20, 2019, 06:21:14 pm »
Hello everyone.
   Another retro handheld console came out.You can choose one more for the retro handheld console. We are about to sell the GKD350 retro handheld console. Performance is higher than RG350.

Details, please.

I think it's this one that I have linked in the post #77 above. It looks like they have changed the name from RG350H to GKD350

The RG350H is the other one and comments state the processor will be running at 1.5Ghz
https://obscurehandhelds.com/2019/08/the-rg350-may-have-a-more-powerful-competitor-soon/

It looks very nice, hope it is a solid retro device
« Last Edit: September 20, 2019, 06:25:13 pm by eltehero »

Panja

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Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
« Reply #81 on: September 20, 2019, 06:45:09 pm »
I am exited as well!!

Can we get some specs and prices?
Where to buy?

poweravr

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Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
« Reply #82 on: September 21, 2019, 02:49:30 am »
Hello everyone.
   Another retro handheld console came out.You can choose one more for the retro handheld console. We are about to sell the GKD350 retro handheld console. Performance is higher than RG350.

Details, please.
Let me introduce our product features.
1)  3.5" 320x240 pixels IPS LCD; 4:3 aspect ratio is ideal for retro gaming
2)  High performance、low power consumption MIPS processor   1.5GHZ
3)  MicroSD card slot,Maximum support 256GB TF card
4)  Analog joystick, D-pad, four action buttons, two LR buttons and two system buttons
5)  A stereo headphone jack; 1W speaker with mono audio power amplifier
6)  Micro USB port for data copying and charging
7)  2300mAh rechargeable battery ;good for 6+ hours of play
8)  At 150mm x 75mm and weighing 155g; it's also super-portable and will easily slip into your bag or pocket

This is a demo video for GKD350
https://www.bilibili.com/video/av68133479/?p=1&share_source=qq&share_medium=iphone&bbid=7ce2cc0c3fcb562e113bd93a38c60683&ts=156877115

poweravr

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Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
« Reply #83 on: September 21, 2019, 02:51:19 am »
I am exited as well!!

Can we get some specs and prices?
Where to buy?
comeing soon. 

poweravr

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Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
« Reply #84 on: September 21, 2019, 02:55:12 am »
Hello everyone.
   Another retro handheld console came out.You can choose one more for the retro handheld console. We are about to sell the GKD350 retro handheld console. Performance is higher than RG350.

Details, please.

I think it's this one that I have linked in the post #77 above. It looks like they have changed the name from RG350H to GKD350

The RG350H is the other one and comments state the processor will be running at 1.5Ghz
https://obscurehandhelds.com/2019/08/the-rg350-may-have-a-more-powerful-competitor-soon/

It looks very nice, hope it is a solid retro device
Yes, you are right. We changed the name.

Panja

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Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
« Reply #85 on: September 21, 2019, 04:13:09 am »
Hello everyone.
   Another retro handheld console came out.You can choose one more for the retro handheld console. We are about to sell the GKD350 retro handheld console. Performance is higher than RG350.

Details, please.
Let me introduce our product features.
1)  3.5" 320x240 pixels IPS LCD; 4:3 aspect ratio is ideal for retro gaming
2)  High performance、low power consumption MIPS processor   1.5GHZ
3)  MicroSD card slot,Maximum support 256GB TF card
4)  Analog joystick, D-pad, four action buttons, two LR buttons and two system buttons
5)  A stereo headphone jack; 1W speaker with mono audio power amplifier
6)  Micro USB port for data copying and charging
7)  2300mAh rechargeable battery ;good for 6+ hours of play
8)  At 150mm x 75mm and weighing 155g; it's also super-portable and will easily slip into your bag or pocket

This is a demo video for GKD350
https://www.bilibili.com/video/av68133479/?p=1&share_source=qq&share_medium=iphone&bbid=7ce2cc0c3fcb562e113bd93a38c60683&ts=156877115

Sounds awesome!!

Can you please tell us what MIPS processor is it? Model/type?
What operating system does it run?
What will be the estimated price?
When will it be available and where?
« Last Edit: September 21, 2019, 04:15:50 am by Panja »

hi-ban

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Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
« Reply #86 on: September 21, 2019, 04:29:09 pm »
Yes, you are right. We changed the name.

Are you going to send development units to community developers?

iball

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Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
« Reply #87 on: September 21, 2019, 10:03:08 pm »
Yes, you are right. We changed the name.

Are you going to send development units to community developers?
Yeah, would be nice if community devs here like gameblablablablablablabla got one to develop and port stuff over on.

gameblabla

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Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
« Reply #88 on: September 22, 2019, 12:28:07 am »
2)  High performance、low power consumption MIPS processor   1.5GHZ
I seriously wonder what that MIPS processor/soc could be ?
The most likely explanation is that it might be an overclocked JZ4780 but its stock speed is like 1.2Ghz so it does not sound very reasonable that all of them would reach 1.5Ghz when overclocked...

I also doubt its one of the new I7200 cores because its nanoMIPS based and it would require (i believe) recompiling everything.
I say that but i have never dealt with any nanoMIPS core, much less a MIPS I7200 one...

Seeing the video, it does look like it is indeed a MIPS soc because reGBA and PCSX4ALL are not available for ARM.
Not sure what's inside.

Well it does seem to run smoothly and it should have enough horsepower for something like VBA Next...

Yes, you are right. We changed the name.

Are you going to send development units to community developers?
Yeah, would be nice if community devs here like gameblablablablablablabla got one to develop and port stuff over on.
It's gameblabla : P
I would love to get one for development of course.
« Last Edit: September 22, 2019, 02:25:16 am by gameblabla »
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HercTNT

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Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
« Reply #89 on: September 22, 2019, 01:58:01 am »
We need to make Gameblabla famous with a "Gameblablablablablabla meme and maybe even t-shirts" ;)

I to wonder what the mips could be, i preordered an rg350 and am very much looking forward to it. this other device sounds nice to.

Ok......I made the meme myself. All in good fun. Sorry Gameblabla, I could not resist ;)
« Last Edit: September 22, 2019, 03:06:12 am by HercTNT »

eltehero

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Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
« Reply #90 on: September 22, 2019, 10:11:48 am »
I hope that the original dingoo A320 devs which made the gcw zero such a great handheld (I am speaking of the emulators and homebrew) get dev units for these upcoming devices using the powerful processors

sirdrak

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Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
« Reply #91 on: September 22, 2019, 01:20:09 pm »
2)  High performance、low power consumption MIPS processor   1.5GHZ
I seriously wonder what that MIPS processor/soc could be ?
The most likely explanation is that it might be an overclocked JZ4780 but its stock speed is like 1.2Ghz so it does not sound very reasonable that all of them would reach 1.5Ghz when overclocked...

I also doubt its one of the new I7200 cores because its nanoMIPS based and it would require (i believe) recompiling everything.
I say that but i have never dealt with any nanoMIPS core, much less a MIPS I7200 one...

Seeing the video, it does look like it is indeed a MIPS soc because reGBA and PCSX4ALL are not available for ARM.
Not sure what's inside.

Well it does seem to run smoothly and it should have enough horsepower for something like VBA Next...

Yes, you are right. We changed the name.

Are you going to send development units to community developers?
Yeah, would be nice if community devs here like gameblablablablablablabla got one to develop and port stuff over on.
It's gameblabla : P
I would love to get one for development of course.

This is from another topic about the GKD350/350H:

All tests are real data. The skip frame option is not turned on.

You are saying that it uses a MIPs processor of 1'5 Ghz, but none of the Ingenic ones are 1'5 Ghz... It's the jz4770? Are you adding the 500 Mhz of the video decoder to the 1 Ghz of the Ingenic processor for marketing purposes? That's no good...

When I ask him repeatedly about that, all I get from him is that it is a customized model (I really doubt it). I think it's another jz4770 like in RG350 and Miyoo ones.

The topic about this: https://boards.dingoonity.org/other-game-systems/game-kiddy-gkd350-handheld-console-65292-the-performance-exceeds-gcw-zero/
« Last Edit: September 22, 2019, 01:25:33 pm by sirdrak »

blackz1982

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Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
« Reply #92 on: September 22, 2019, 02:14:26 pm »
May be Ingenic M200.

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gameblabla

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Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
« Reply #93 on: September 22, 2019, 05:44:23 pm »
May be Ingenic M200.
M200 is like 1.2Ghz at best like the JZ4780, except without a 3D accelerator.

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When I ask him repeatedly about that, all I get from him is that it is a customized model (I really doubt it). I think it's another jz4770 like in RG350 and Miyoo ones.

The topic about this: https://boards.dingoonity.org/other-game-systems/game-kiddy-gkd350-handheld-console-65292-the-performance-exceeds-gcw-zero/
If its not the JZ4780 or M200 then i think that :
- They are probably bullshitting us on the clock speed and its really 1.2 Ghz
- or It's a new MIPS32 soc we are not aware of. (could be an I7200, or something else)

As he said, there are no Ingenic socs running at the stock speed of 1.5Ghz. Xburst2 got cancelled and i doubt any made out of here.

Pick one
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Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
« Reply #94 on: September 23, 2019, 01:21:44 am »
XBurst 2 was not canceled, where did you get that idea?

The M200 is dual-core 1.2 GHz + 300 MHz, I guess that's where the 1.5 GHz figure comes from.

Or it could be an overclocked JZ4770. It's definitely Ingenic though.

Leo-brasil

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Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
« Reply #95 on: September 23, 2019, 01:29:54 am »
I found these recent videos of the device being tested SNES and PSX emulators

<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20220808033815/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ii-hFpLAGc8" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ii-hFpLAGc8</a>
Playstation 1

<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20220808033815/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zFEs2AlmgY" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zFEs2AlmgY</a>
Super Snes

02k0

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Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
« Reply #96 on: September 23, 2019, 01:52:52 am »
Conclusion.  A lot needs to be optimized yet.

gameblabla

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Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
« Reply #97 on: September 24, 2019, 04:06:02 am »
XBurst 2 was not canceled, where did you get that idea?
Then its on hold forever ? Because Ingenic were working on a MIPS64 sucessor back in 2013~2014 and we never heard of it.
Unless the M200 is Xburst 2 ? Do you know what happened to that ?
Because apart from the M200, we got nothing from Ingenic beyond the JZ4780. I even looked at their website and that's all i could find.

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The M200 is dual-core 1.2 GHz + 300 MHz, I guess that's where the 1.5 GHz figure comes from.
Ah, that makes sense. Kind of like how they advertise the RS-97 with its Ingenic JZ4760 being dual core, even though it is just the main CPU + VPU.

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Conclusion.  A lot needs to be optimized yet.
It could be improved. PCSX4ALL part5 by senquack will make use of the MXU. We can expect an improvement of 10% at least.
As for PocketSNES, i had great results with PGO'ing the executable so this is something that needs to be done on the GCW0/RG350 version as well. I could do it but i'm still waiting for the RG350 team to send me a dev unit.
Some people already got their RG-350. (or are about to)
« Last Edit: September 24, 2019, 04:13:45 am by gameblabla »
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Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
« Reply #98 on: September 24, 2019, 04:15:59 am »
Dear Gameblabla, do you think the PocketGo 1 is a great alternative to the Dingoo A320, cost effective?

gameblabla

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Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
« Reply #99 on: September 24, 2019, 04:19:48 am »
Dear Gameblabla, do you think the PocketGo 1 is a great alternative to the Dingoo A320, cost effective?
The PocketGo (and Bittboy) has an issue with the screen being SPI, which means that screen refresh rate can't go beyond 40hz.
I guess this could be worked around with compression but either way, this is just plain bad.

Some people don't mind that but i would just recommend the LDK, which costs only 7$ more than the PocketGo on Aliexpress.
It has a great dpad and doesn't have the refresh rate issues that the Bittboy & PocketGo have.

I guess if you ignore the screen then the PocketGo not too bad and it uses Linux 4.14 unlike the LDK's Linux 2.6.31.3. (Some people were working on upstream support for the JZ4760 but i have no idea where that went)

Or you could also wait for the PG2, which apparently will also use a JZ4770. If they cut down the price on that then it can't be a bad alternative. Same for the GK350 if it does use a M200 or JZ4780.
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