Author Topic: Open Handhelds Comparison Sheet  (Read 17922 times)

BAFelton (OP)

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Open Handhelds Comparison Sheet
« on: January 26, 2012, 09:26:09 pm »


Hi there,

we worked on a sheet with comparison between the open handhelds of the moment.

You can take a look here : http://tinyurl.com/open-source-handhelds

We'll update it when a new attractive console will come.

In the comments, you'll find the best emulator for each console, maybe there are mistakes in this sheet, so don't hesitate to let us know :)

Thanks to Coccijoe ;)

bamboori

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Re: Open Handhelds Comparison Sheet
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2012, 09:51:00 pm »
i hope you will add the jxd s601 ;D

im an idiot.
looking nice ;)
« Last Edit: January 26, 2012, 09:54:14 pm by bamboori »

bigdavebear

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Re: Open Handhelds Comparison Sheet
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2012, 10:31:47 pm »
Very nice Good Work ;)

Looking at the features, buttons/controlls and price the JXD S601 ticks all the boxes there are a few Emus not out but sooner or latter they would be made for Andriod (apart from the non popular/obscure ones). So there is not much that the JXD does not have or is missing here is a list of what it does not have.

Radio, HDMI, Vibration and USB pad Support, and also no Bluetooth, GPS and 3G but  maybe not needed.

So  the YDP has a few extra features over the JXD (HDMI, Extra Camera) but then carries higher price and only Andriod 2.2 (unless get the upgrade version).

I am also suprised how much the Wiz/Caanoo Emulate (remember while Wiz offers more the Caanoo can use Ginge to play some of the Wiz stuff).

Of course the king of Emulating is the Pandora but they are rare, and shows that what sets it apart is dedicated team and software support.

Which makes you wonder had the orginal Dingoo A320 (not the DT company that alienated itself from community) actually had the CPU Power and Ram of the Caanoo/Wiz how great a device that could had been. Or if the Caanoo/Wiz combined both consoles pros i.e having a D-Pad and Analog and again i am sure that device would do great.

So while the Pandora is good but rare, its a pitty they did not make another system that was based on simular design the JXD and YDP use (i.e like PSP/Vita) i am sure that would be interesting.

But looking at the systems it does show to me that the JXD has a lot of potential, if only there was in future a Dingux/Lingux based port for it that runs from the SD card so that the community could also develop for it instead of rely on the Andriod community.

sq

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Re: Open Handhelds Comparison Sheet
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2012, 04:41:37 am »
how many of these handhelds are truly open source?

bigdavebear

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Re: Open Handhelds Comparison Sheet
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2012, 03:02:05 pm »
All of them are.....

I would say in order of support it depends, because the Yinlips and JXD devices are Andriod which means a massive market of Apps and Games, but a number wont be of any use for the systems and some may not run at all or work propperly... saying that the same can be said with certain Andriod Tablets and Smart Phones not every one of those can run/use every app out there.

Then we go onto the other devices and the Caanoo/Wiz have a good deal off support (there may be a little bias on here as its a Dingoo board) but these GPH devices are well supported they can also use GP2X homebrew via a Application called Ginge.

Then we have the Dingoo A320 which also has a lot of support, and is nice and really small for pocket portability.

After that the Dingoo A330 does not quite have the homebrew support of the A320 and lastly the A380/A320E have even less support mainly due to most of the community who worked on the A320 not willing to work for stuff for the A320E/A380 because of how the company who made them had used/borrowed/stolen a lot of the Comminties hard work without giving credit or releasing source code to any improvements made.


Oh forgot the Pandora can Emulate a lot more, it has decent homebrew support but as far as Emulation goes it supports more systems than the others and does better job, but these devices are rare and hence hard to come by when they can be found they cost a lot.

BAFelton (OP)

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Re: Open Handhelds Comparison Sheet
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2012, 08:12:27 pm »
Thanx for the comments ;)

Added JXD S7100 + GP2X F100/F200.

ricsi

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Re: Open Handhelds Comparison Sheet
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2012, 08:18:45 am »
Yinlips does support 32GB MicroSDs.

It just their data sheet that is screwed up ... the same datasheet that mentions that it has a "1.2GHz CPU".

darth_llamah

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Re: Open Handhelds Comparison Sheet
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2012, 09:01:26 am »
I wouldn't call YPDG18 an "open handheld"-Yinlips will not release any sources.

The Shadow Beast

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Re: Open Handhelds Comparison Sheet
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2012, 12:02:08 pm »
WHat about the Ritmix?

bigdavebear

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Re: Open Handhelds Comparison Sheet
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2012, 04:01:33 pm »
I would assume once people get hands on it and test it then it would be listed also.

BAFelton (OP)

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Re: Open Handhelds Comparison Sheet
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2012, 08:12:14 pm »
WHat about the Ritmix?

If someone has complete infos about it, i'll add it.

SNESFAN

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Re: Open Handhelds Comparison Sheet
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2012, 01:53:59 am »
I've been gathering info about it, still trying to track down more like what it's capable of doing etc

    Ingenic JZ4755 XBurst processor @ 400Mhz
    4.3'' TFT Display
    480 ? 272
    64MB of RAM
    4 GB internal memory
    microSD slot (up to 16 GB)
    182x80x15 mm
    192 g
    microphone
    accelerometer
    FM radio
    1800 mAh battery (5-6 hours)
    mini USB 2.0 port
    Linux 2.6.24, based on Dingux

http://forum.openhandhelds.net/index.php/topic,28.0.html
« Last Edit: January 31, 2012, 12:30:33 pm by SNESFAN »

pcercuei

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Re: Open Handhelds Comparison Sheet
« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2012, 02:27:01 pm »
The info about the GP2X is a bit wrong:
- The F200 version does have a touch screen,
- The F100 version does not have a D-pad but an analog stick,
- It has two 200MHz real CPUs, not one.

And the A380 is not really an "open handheld"...

bigdavebear

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Re: Open Handhelds Comparison Sheet
« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2012, 03:10:48 pm »
Interesting Ayla....

But is the A380 not really open, due to no one being able to program and produce homebrew for it or because many will not bother to waste their time doing so, due to the way the company ripped off and used other peoples work with out credit and would not release the source code to any modifications they did do any of the Dingux based software/emus.

pcercuei

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Re: Open Handhelds Comparison Sheet
« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2012, 03:54:34 pm »
I say it's not really an "open handheld" because it has not been conceived with open source in mind. The only real open handhelds IMHO are the GamePack ones and the Pandora.
Dingoo Digital did release an SDK, which makes the A320 a bit more open as it shows that at least the company was allowing homebrew.
With the A380, they had an opportunity to make a real open handheld, being Linux and open-source software based. But they did lock everything. And their SDK is the unmodified tarball of booboo's toolchain.

gibberish

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Re: Open Handhelds Comparison Sheet
« Reply #15 on: January 31, 2012, 06:51:24 pm »
Excuse my ignorance, but if the Yinlips and JXD Android devices are being classed as open source, how come something like the PSP is not? Android might be an open source platform, but in these instances the source code is not provided by the manufacturer. So all that can be done is app development. App development on top of a closed source platform is also available for the PSP.
Is it because there is an official SDK for Android whereas the PSP lacks one?

bigdavebear

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Re: Open Handhelds Comparison Sheet
« Reply #16 on: January 31, 2012, 07:09:15 pm »
I guess it should be what are Homebrew Platforms then, which would include custom firmware/hacked PSPs, if Open Source means pure that the SDK etc is open for everyone to use and play with etc.

In that case only the Pandora is open source and i guess the GPH devices can be classed as the same.... the PSP and Dingoo A320 would be next in terms of its open sourceness.

The Andriod devices may not be classed as open source as such, they simply use Andriod Market so software/emulators would not be produced specifically for just the JXD or the Yinlips.

darth_llamah

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Re: Open Handhelds Comparison Sheet
« Reply #17 on: January 31, 2012, 07:38:11 pm »
Excuse my ignorance, but if the Yinlips and JXD Android devices are being classed as open source, how come something like the PSP is not? Android might be an open source platform, but in these instances the source code is not provided by the manufacturer. So all that can be done is app development. App development on top of a closed source platform is also available for the PSP.
Is it because there is an official SDK for Android whereas the PSP lacks one?
You can just compile and run your own code on Android without any alterations to hardware/firmware.
But you must "jailbrake" PSP to run anything not signed by Sony

And yes, Yinlips and JXD are violating GPL not publishing hardware specific code (kernel with all drivers, system specific parts) or precompiled binaries (if they use not-GPL'ed code)
« Last Edit: January 31, 2012, 07:40:56 pm by darth_llamah »

BAFelton (OP)

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Re: Open Handhelds Comparison Sheet
« Reply #18 on: January 31, 2012, 08:48:11 pm »
Thanx for the comments ! Fixed the F100 / F200 part.

About the title, we think it would be hard to have something that fits for all consoles. So we took the generic 'open source' even if it's not really true.

Also this document is useful for newcomers to know which platform can be emulated on which console.

Added GP32 + Gemei A330.

MOFO

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Re: Open Handhelds Comparison Sheet
« Reply #19 on: February 01, 2012, 01:59:04 am »
Excellent list BAFelton :)
Is Lotiyo the same as the Yinlips?
Seen the new T8 which looks like a exact copy but they have a T6 model with dual analog sticks that caught my eye but I can't find anyone selling them :(

 

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