Author Topic: Odroid-Go successor - Odroid Go Advance (60hz, Rockchip, PSP)  (Read 6182 times)

iball

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Re: Odroid-Go successor - Odroid Go Advance (60hz, Rockchip, PSP)
« Reply #20 on: January 08, 2020, 07:48:07 pm »
A developer said it takes 8 sec to boot.
You can also see it in the HardKernel video.
8 second boot is damn fast.
They're already sold out of pre-orders.  Glad I got my order in before then!
A few things to note about this - it's designed to hacked-on.  They set it so you can solder in a UART socket and cut the side of the case to access it.  it also looks like they broke out the pins for you to solder in your own WIFI module should you so feel like it. 
And they put just enough space between the hardware and the L1/R1 buttons to allow one to install their own L2/R2 buttons if they want to.
I've never quite seen such a clean board design in a retro-gaming handheld.  The white board color makes it easy to figure this board out.
Mods for this one are going to explode.
And it's running Retropi/EmulationStation, which is going to make adding new software to it fairly easy. 
I think the first mods seen will be how to replace the TFT screen with a compatible IPS one.

npaladin2000

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Re: Odroid-Go successor - Odroid Go Advance (60hz, Rockchip, PSP)
« Reply #21 on: January 09, 2020, 01:41:56 pm »
A developer said it takes 8 sec to boot.
You can also see it in the HardKernel video.
8 second boot is damn fast.
They're already sold out of pre-orders.  Glad I got my order in before then!
A few things to note about this - it's designed to hacked-on.  They set it so you can solder in a UART socket and cut the side of the case to access it.  it also looks like they broke out the pins for you to solder in your own WIFI module should you so feel like it. 
And they put just enough space between the hardware and the L1/R1 buttons to allow one to install their own L2/R2 buttons if they want to.
I've never quite seen such a clean board design in a retro-gaming handheld.  The white board color makes it easy to figure this board out.
Mods for this one are going to explode.
And it's running Retropi/EmulationStation, which is going to make adding new software to it fairly easy. 
I think the first mods seen will be how to replace the TFT screen with a compatible IPS one.

It's not strictly RetroPie, but it's close (RetroPie is Raspbian based, this is based on Ubuntu Minimal).

Personally I think the WiFi is going to be the most popular mod. it's certainly the one I'm most interested in. That would allow me to free up the USB-A port for a low profile mass torage device, and let me seperate my boot SD from my ROM storage.  I'm VERY interested in that. Though frankly I would have preferred a laptop-style PCI-e connector for a WiFi module. ;)
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iball

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Re: Odroid-Go successor - Odroid Go Advance (60hz, Rockchip, PSP)
« Reply #22 on: January 09, 2020, 05:51:50 pm »
I think it was more of a space concern + extra costs to implement a proper wifi PCI-E connector, but at least they give you what you need to solder up your own. 
I'm on the same plan - 256GB USB drive to hold ROMs, micro-SD for OS + emulators, UART connector for debugging. 
I haven't looked at the docs on this but I'm hoping this will work for wifi:
https://www.sparkfun.com/products/13678

npaladin2000

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Re: Odroid-Go successor - Odroid Go Advance (60hz, Rockchip, PSP)
« Reply #23 on: January 10, 2020, 01:45:43 pm »
Well, that's cheap enough, let's order them and try it? I know a couple of thhe guys developing firmware, I can talk to them about making sure drivers are included.
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iball

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Re: Odroid-Go successor - Odroid Go Advance (60hz, Rockchip, PSP)
« Reply #24 on: January 10, 2020, 07:52:29 pm »
Well, that's cheap enough, let's order them and try it? I know a couple of thhe guys developing firmware, I can talk to them about making sure drivers are included.
I looked through the spec sheet on the wifi module and don't see where the pinout matches up with pinout on the mainboard of the OGO-Advanced so I'm going to do a little more digging.
I think that wifi breakout board is just for Arduino-like serial comms over 802.11b.  I've used a few of them before on Arduino projects I've built in the past (some of which are still running almost a decade later in a desert far, far away) to provide basic telemetry data back to central collection server.

exorio

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Re: Odroid-Go successor - Odroid Go Advance (60hz, Rockchip, PSP)
« Reply #25 on: January 10, 2020, 10:18:18 pm »
God damn I'm on a fence on this

Either this or RG350

Tekken 6 gameplay seems a bit slow (low FPS) but it should play Tekken 5 just fine

Just one joystick and not clickable

Build quality seems kinda meh compared to RG350

price point and the capability to play PSP games is kinda attractive

iball

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Re: Odroid-Go successor - Odroid Go Advance (60hz, Rockchip, PSP)
« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2020, 12:20:37 am »
God damn I'm on a fence on this

Either this or RG350

Tekken 6 gameplay seems a bit slow (low FPS) but it should play Tekken 5 just fine

Just one joystick and not clickable

Build quality seems kinda meh compared to RG350

price point and the capability to play PSP games is kinda attractive
Build quality of the Odroid Go Advance is going to stomp all over the RG350 because it's made in a decent South  Korean factory and not in China. 
That means the screen shouldn't go bad after a month of use, no cold solder joints, no leftover flux on the mainboard, etc.
And it should have decent warranty support unlike the RG350 where they can't even understand basic English.
The RG350 can't even do PSP either.

Jutleys

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Re: Odroid-Go successor - Odroid Go Advance (60hz, Rockchip, PSP)
« Reply #27 on: January 11, 2020, 12:27:51 pm »
« Last Edit: January 11, 2020, 12:34:59 pm by Jutleys »

iball

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Re: Odroid-Go successor - Odroid Go Advance (60hz, Rockchip, PSP)
« Reply #28 on: January 11, 2020, 09:48:44 pm »
Odroidgo Advance Tekken3 test

PreOrder Here: [REDACTED]

https://youtu.be/LeDkfVru7zc
How can you be "selling" anything when even the manufacturer's - Hardkernel - pre-orders are completely sold out?
Or are you selling a knock-off?

VanZan

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Re: Odroid-Go successor - Odroid Go Advance (60hz, Rockchip, PSP)
« Reply #29 on: January 12, 2020, 12:31:21 am »
Pretty sure Jutleys isn't connected to ameridroid who have long sold Odroid stuff.

iball

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Re: Odroid-Go successor - Odroid Go Advance (60hz, Rockchip, PSP)
« Reply #30 on: January 12, 2020, 12:33:56 am »
Pretty sure Jutleys isn't connected to ameridroid who have long sold Odroid stuff.
Then why not just post a link to the Hardkernel page for it?

lordhardware (OP)

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Re: Odroid-Go successor - Odroid Go Advance (60hz, Rockchip, PSP)
« Reply #31 on: January 12, 2020, 12:45:47 am »
Hardkernal direct haven't opened preorders as yet.

Build quality should be better than any AliExpress handheld based on their previous releases.

In terms of the screen quality it looks as good, or better than most cheap IPS displays so probably check it out before worrying too much about replacement. (People have shown viewing angles are pretty perfect all around).

iball

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Re: Odroid-Go successor - Odroid Go Advance (60hz, Rockchip, PSP)
« Reply #32 on: January 12, 2020, 12:50:41 am »
Hardkernal direct haven't opened preorders as yet.
Then why is he trying to direct people to pre-order from a site other than Hardkernel?

npaladin2000

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Re: Odroid-Go successor - Odroid Go Advance (60hz, Rockchip, PSP)
« Reply #33 on: January 12, 2020, 03:45:36 am »
Hardkernal direct haven't opened preorders as yet.
Then why is he trying to direct people to pre-order from a site other than Hardkernel?

It's kind of hard to direct people to preorder from a site that isn't accepting preorders, isn't it?  Ameridroid is the first sure anyone has found that's taking preorders for this device and if you want to get on anyone's case about it, get on mine, I'm the one that found it. Jutleys is just providing it as a convenience and courtesy, and neither one of us is getting squat for it.
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Re: Odroid-Go successor - Odroid Go Advance (60hz, Rockchip, PSP)
« Reply #34 on: January 12, 2020, 03:52:15 am »
I dont like that the ABXY buttons are misaligned. Who the hell thought that was a good idea?:


I also don't like that the L/R triggers are clicky microswitches:


Plus, it seems that it uses the GBPocket or GBC dpad, which is noticeably smaller than a normal dpad...
« Last Edit: January 12, 2020, 04:04:00 am by hi-ban »

iball

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Re: Odroid-Go successor - Odroid Go Advance (60hz, Rockchip, PSP)
« Reply #35 on: January 12, 2020, 04:47:49 am »
It's kind of hard to direct people to preorder from a site that isn't accepting preorders, isn't it?  Ameridroid is the first sure anyone has found that's taking preorders for this device and if you want to get on anyone's case about it, get on mine, I'm the one that found it. Jutleys is just providing it as a convenience and courtesy, and neither one of us is getting squat for it.
If the company *making* the device isn't ready for pre-orders much less actual orders then why is anyone even taking PAYPAL ONLY pre-orders? 
You're literally giving them money for something that the actual company isn't even ready to sell yet.
When you paypal them, they take that money *immediately*.
What they're going to do is auto-bot Hardkernel's ordering page when it finally goes live for orders based upon how many "pre-orders" they've gotten. 
Since they'll never have to physically touch the product themselves, they'll drop-ship straight from Hardkernel making that company $1 (or more depending on shipping "fees") just for scripting a few bots.
« Last Edit: January 12, 2020, 04:57:18 am by iball »

iball

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Re: Odroid-Go successor - Odroid Go Advance (60hz, Rockchip, PSP)
« Reply #36 on: January 12, 2020, 04:55:03 am »
I dont like that the ABXY buttons are misaligned. Who the hell thought that was a good idea?:


I also don't like that the L/R triggers are clicky microswitches:


Plus, it seems that it uses the GBPocket or GBC dpad, which is noticeably smaller than a normal dpad...
Ah, I see the misalignment there.  Time will tell if that bothers me on the final product.
The clicky L/R button switches?  You mean the same switches used on the RG350, PocketGo 2, and RG300?
Those never bothered me.
As for the GBPocket/GBC dpad size, well, that's personal preference. 
I'm sure if you want a bigger DPAD you can hack that in by removing a bit of the material on the case.
It's easier to remove material for a bigger DPAD replacement than it is to add material for a smaller DPAD replacement.
The only possible issue I see at the moment is the ABXY button pad misalignment.

npaladin2000

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Re: Odroid-Go successor - Odroid Go Advance (60hz, Rockchip, PSP)
« Reply #37 on: January 12, 2020, 07:45:52 am »
It's kind of hard to direct people to preorder from a site that isn't accepting preorders, isn't it?  Ameridroid is the first sure anyone has found that's taking preorders for this device and if you want to get on anyone's case about it, get on mine, I'm the one that found it. Jutleys is just providing it as a convenience and courtesy, and neither one of us is getting squat for it.
If the company *making* the device isn't ready for pre-orders much less actual orders then why is anyone even taking PAYPAL ONLY pre-orders? 
You're literally giving them money for something that the actual company isn't even ready to sell yet.
When you paypal them, they take that money *immediately*.
What they're going to do is auto-bot Hardkernel's ordering page when it finally goes live for orders based upon how many "pre-orders" they've gotten. 
Since they'll never have to physically touch the product themselves, they'll drop-ship straight from Hardkernel making that company $1 (or more depending on shipping "fees") just for scripting a few bots.

That would be difficult since they're charging the same price as HardKernel. But even if not, if it gets me an order as soon as they go live, which will probably be in the middle of the night for me, that's a dollar well earned and well spent as far as I'm concerned.
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adventureFAN

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Re: Odroid-Go successor - Odroid Go Advance (60hz, Rockchip, PSP)
« Reply #38 on: January 12, 2020, 05:16:53 pm »
A Benchmark of CPU and GPU:
My Handhelds: PS Vita, PSP (1000), New 3DS, NDS lite, GBA SP, GB Micro,
LCL Pi-Boy 3A+, GPD XD (Old), PowKiddy X18, RG350, PlayGo, GKD350H.

Favorite: Odroid Go Advance

iball

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Re: Odroid-Go successor - Odroid Go Advance (60hz, Rockchip, PSP)
« Reply #39 on: January 12, 2020, 05:59:35 pm »
A Benchmark of CPU and GPU:

Intriguing.  So its performance is a little bit better than an RPi 3B+. 
I'm cool with that.

 

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