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Re: Nintendo Switch
« Reply #40 on: October 21, 2016, 06:30:34 pm »
If the Switch comes with Tegra X1 as rumoured then it is similar to shield TV, perhaps slightly underclocked to get better battery. tegra X1 is quite hot, in fact in shield TV Box comes with a fan.

Nvidia said it is a custom chip.  It may be an X1 with X2 featuers.  I'm not sure.  I've got the X1 in my Pixel C.  It does run a little lower than the Shield TV.  I don't think it has a fan and while it gets hot, it is never too hot.

https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2016/10/20/nintendo-switch/?__prclt=deVBN1ot

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Re: Nintendo Switch
« Reply #41 on: October 21, 2016, 08:11:22 pm »
Yeah, because is a tablet. In the TV the fan is posssible because there is no need to worry for battery time. My guess is that it will be a customized version of X1, since they haven't announced a x2. Unless they want a poor battery life, like it happened with shiield tablet.
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Re: Nintendo Switch
« Reply #42 on: October 21, 2016, 09:27:07 pm »
@LordDavon


The point I was making is that since it is a tablet, people will be using it occassionally as a mobile gaming device.   Unlike a traditional console which people have pointed out have been very robust in the past.  The Switch is not robust

Imagine if the PS4 was a little smaller had controllers attached and a big glass screen .  And you could walk around with it.   Put it in the hands of young boys that love to throw controllers around and do what boys do.  See were I'm going with this.

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Yes I'm aware it will probably use Gorilla Glass, And?   . It will still break if you drop it,  Gorilla Glass is not magic

As for the PS4 and Xbox being a limited PC, yep agree.  And I agree, they are not innovative, they rely on power and just deliver to gaming basics.   The Switch because it wasn't going to meet them power wise, was said to be innovative. Again, how is a gaming tablet innovative.  It's not.  The only innovative thing is possibly the removable controller which can be used by two people.  But as I said, , IMO, that is more down side for the trade offs than pluses

Frankly, I thought they would go down the VR path or something. But it looks like they didn't even pack enough power for that to be an accessory option later on.   Could be wrong, hopefuilly I am, because that would really suck.
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LordDavon

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Re: Nintendo Switch
« Reply #43 on: October 21, 2016, 09:37:57 pm »
@LordDavon
The point I was making is that since it is a tablet, people will be using it occassionally as a mobile gaming device.   Unlike a traditional console which people have pointed out have been very robust in the past.  The Switch is not robust

Imagine if the PS4 was a little smaller had controllers attached and a big glass screen .  And you could walk around with it.   Put it in the hands of young boys that love to throw controllers around and do what boys do.  See were I'm going with this.
I get where we aren't seeing this the same way.  In the video, I really didn't see many kids.  I don't see Nintendo marketing this to kids.  It is being marked toward young adults and adults.  So, I see it more of a tablet/gaming system for people like the people in this forum.  We are all ages, but there aren't any kids, that I know of.

I see where you are seeing this more like the Wii.  Where kids would be playing it as well as the adults.  I can see your perspective.  I have a 7 month old son, 10 year old step-daughter, 16 year old daughter and 21 year old daughter.  I'd let the 16 year old or 21 year old use it in tablet mode, but the other two aren't getting near the tablet...  They can play it on the TV, if I let them even play it. :-)

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Re: Nintendo Switch
« Reply #44 on: October 21, 2016, 09:48:16 pm »
Nintendos consoles have always traditionally attracted a younger market than the other two, simply because of the type of games on them.   And even though a lot of adults play it, enough young teens will be playing it to be an issue if it's not robust.   It's not a question of generalisation.

According to this poll 58% of users of the Wii U were under 24 with 19% in the 12-18year range

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/631516-wii-u/65110399


But lets be honest here, a number of adults also trash there consoles around. Throwing controllers etc. Even accidental drops are a problem here.   


The point being, this isn't going to be as safe from breakage as a general console that is built like a tank and sits near the TV and doesn't move.
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Re: Nintendo Switch
« Reply #45 on: October 21, 2016, 09:59:30 pm »
Everything hss been said,never like nintendo,mostly owned the with Xbox360, JXD7800 and shield tablet(love until i sell it) and TV
Didnt buy the GPD win, backed already Smach Z the winner.sorry peoples

LordDavon

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Re: Nintendo Switch
« Reply #46 on: October 21, 2016, 10:02:06 pm »
The point being, this isn't going to be as safe from breakage as a general console that sits near the TV and doesn't move.

Oh, I agree with you there.  It isn't a console.  It is a tablet.  I have a Wii-U and the first thing my wife asked me when I got it was what we'd do if the kids broke the tablet controller.  I told her that if they touched it, I'd break them.  Ha!

I think this system is going to coexist with the 3DS.  This way Nintendo has the young kid market and the older market.  But, I don't see the tablet being an issue.  The kids don't need to touch it.

To me, this is more why I am interested in the Android/Window Chinese gaming tablets.  I want to play my FPS and RPG games.  I love a good emulated game too, but I'd rather play Skyrim on the go.  I love Nintendo for bringing this type of machine to market, and I can't wait to see if there are others that follow.

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Re: Nintendo Switch
« Reply #47 on: October 21, 2016, 10:05:09 pm »
Everything hss been said,never like nintendo,mostly owned the with Xbox360, JXD7800 and shield tablet(love until i sell it) and TV
Didnt buy the GPD win, backed already Smach Z the winner.sorry peoples
Not sure why you are apologizing.  It is fine to have your own thoughts and opinions.  They aren't wrong, they are just yours.  I love to hear why other people aren't interested in something, or why others are.  That's what these discussions are all about.

I really hope the SmachZ is everything you hope it is.  I also hope they improve on the Steam controller, and make it great for mobile gaming.  I'll get one if they do.

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« Reply #48 on: October 22, 2016, 12:32:02 am »
Yes I'm aware it will probably use Gorilla Glass, And?   . It will still break if you drop it,  Gorilla Glass is not magic

As for the PS4 and Xbox being a limited PC, yep agree.  And I agree, they are not innovative, they rely on power and just deliver to gaming basics.   The Switch because it wasn't going to meet them power wise, was said to be innovative. Again, how is a gaming tablet innovative.  It's not.  The only innovative thing is possibly the removable controller which can be used by two people.  But as I said, , IMO, that is more down side for the trade offs than pluses

Frankly, I thought they would go down the VR path or something. But it looks like they didn't even pack enough power for that to be an accessory option later on.   Could be wrong, hopefuilly I am, because that would really suck.
Well, if you're going to throw it off of a skyscraper, Gorilla Glass probably isn't going to protect it. For day-to-day use, however, with 5 foot drops - a 1 mm of Gorilla Glass 4 (or 5 which is probably the one they're going to use) is going to protect it. If you still don't have faith in the new mobile devices' armor, I suggest having a look at the stress tests of BV6000, which can show how even low-end devices aren't as brittle as they were in the past.

I think I mentioned all the ways it was innovative, but even if we go at the very limited scope of how it compares to PS4/XB1 - it doesn't have a portable/console split. You'll be able to play one game without being tethered to a single space, which was only with handhelds. This is a console, and that's why it's good - graphics capabilities wise, it sits squarely between the XB1 and the PS4, and nVidia proprietary PhysX engine lets it do far more calculations than AMD ever will at a lower energy cost, meaning even if it is a low-powered CPU it can do far more than you expect. This isn't "just-a-tablet", this is something that can go toe-to-toe with the current-gen. I'm not talking about Project Scorpio and PS4+, which are focused on VR and 4K display.

And honestly, I'm pretty stoked they didn't go that route because VR is still very expensive ($600 min. just for the base device, without the console), it's clunky, it doesn't perform at the resolution and framerate it should be for a smooth experience, and it doesn't have any big-name GOOD games developed for it because of it. As it stands right now, it's a gimmick - a bit more developed than the Virtual Boy, but still not developed enough to justify a console with that as its main focus. We don't need another VR device that jumps the shark (HTC Vive's space limitations, Oculus Rift's framerate instabilities, PSVR's resolution cap) before that technology and the software for that technology comes to fruition. It's not about who did it first, it's about who did it well.

EDIT: Also, remember that one of the PS4's selling points was shared play between the PS Vita and the PS4, as was the Wii U. Where everyone failed (because the PSVita was a failure, and the Wii U integrated it too heavily) this might succeed, especially since you're taking the device with you and introducing no lag when it's on the go, and doesn't have limited range (such as was with the Wii U's gamepad).
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Re: Nintendo Switch
« Reply #49 on: October 22, 2016, 01:12:05 am »


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« Reply #50 on: October 22, 2016, 02:34:33 am »
Yes, more color options will be nice and diff color for both side of joy-cons to differentiate for player 1 & 2. Hope there will be separate joy-con with proper dpad that can be bought separately. Actually, it would be nice if they can do a famicom color scheme with 2 red lines.
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Re: Nintendo Switch
« Reply #51 on: October 22, 2016, 03:56:19 am »
Engadget has a pretty interesting article discussing how the controller could be used by companies.  To break it down, they could bundle their game with a right controller with a d-pad, or a left controller with 8 buttons.  Basically, it opens the console up.  It is an interesting read.

https://www.engadget.com/2016/10/21/nintendo-switch-nx-controller-concept/

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Re: Nintendo Switch
« Reply #52 on: October 22, 2016, 04:31:39 am »
I think modular concept is a good idea as also being used by smartphone like LG G5 & Motorola. Relatively new ideas yet to be fully developed. Cost is very important as it will make or break.
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« Reply #53 on: October 22, 2016, 02:13:33 pm »
Yes, more color options will be nice and diff color for both side of joy-cons to differentiate for player 1 & 2. Hope there will be separate joy-con with proper dpad that can be bought separately. Actually, it would be nice if they can do a famicom color scheme with 2 red lines.

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« Reply #54 on: October 22, 2016, 03:23:10 pm »
Nice

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« Reply #55 on: October 22, 2016, 03:28:13 pm »
Nice

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Re: Nintendo Switch
« Reply #56 on: October 22, 2016, 03:46:40 pm »
Which episode is this? Can't remember.

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« Reply #57 on: October 22, 2016, 04:49:32 pm »
I can't wait to pre-order the Nintendo Switch.
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Re: Nintendo Switch
« Reply #58 on: October 22, 2016, 11:00:06 pm »
The Nintendo Morphus X300. Nice.

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Re: Nintendo Switch
« Reply #59 on: October 22, 2016, 11:39:32 pm »
BTW, rumors have it that the Switches screen is multi touch and 720p. Insiders are still saying it has extra processing power in the dock. Possibly only 3 hours battery life.  All rumors of course

Lets face it guys, this is a Shield 2 - 7" tablet with detachable controllers Morphus X300 style rather than the  Ipega 9023 usually used with the Shield tablet.  A gaming tablet Innovative, you have got to be kidding me

Rumor mill:

http://letsplayvideogames.com/2016/10/a-deep-dive-on-lpvgs-nintendo-switch-reports-and-info/
https://arcadegirl64.wordpress.com/2016/09/02/rumor-what-should-we-expect-from-the-final-nx-product/

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