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kevin_yamagata

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Re: New Handheld Game Console, cheapest!
« Reply #20 on: June 08, 2020, 12:23:15 pm »
Better Clone?

https://a.aliexpress.com/_d7YOYnk

**Edit  it has a volume controller and usb type c input, now it looks like a new model same.


I found this ugly, I prefer the first model, looks like more a game boy, but its ugly too lmao
« Last Edit: June 09, 2020, 12:49:47 am by kevin_yamagata »

kndcds

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Re: New Handheld Game Console, cheapest!
« Reply #21 on: June 09, 2020, 01:06:18 am »
Better Clone?

https://a.aliexpress.com/_d7YOYnk

**Edit  it has a volume controller and usb type c input, now it looks like a new model same.


I found this ugly, I prefer the first model, looks like more a game boy, but its ugly too lmao
Indeed, but is it that the emulation quality has improved?  The way is to wait for the Review on YouTube.



kevin_yamagata

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Re: New Handheld Game Console, cheapest!
« Reply #22 on: June 20, 2020, 11:39:20 pm »
Hey, my XYC Q8 has arrived and i make a lot of tests with him. The firmware version is the 1.2, the most new i can ever seen. Now, lets go to the results.

Snes emulator:
He have some improves on the layer issues, for example, in super mario World the layers dont stay behind the others. The frame drop is the same. Zelda a link to the past still unplayable.

Mega drive/Genesis: The same of the first version.

Nes: I realy dont understand this emulator, super mario bros runs like a turtle, castlevania the same, but contra, double dragon, ninja gaiden, TMNT 3 runs perfectly.

Mame: The same of the first version.

Gba: I tryed a lot of 3d games and they have a good performance.

The Dpad stills crap, but i will try improve him.

I replaced the screen with a RetroFc 8 bits screen, works very well and dont have bad angles of view. Lucky!
In The box i made a translation of the chinese for english and i found "Supports multiplayer", but my usb joysticks doesnt worked, Maybe the joysticks of RS 07 can work.

The speaker volume dont reset when you turn off The console, interesting change.

For today, its just this.
« Last Edit: June 21, 2020, 02:39:23 am by kevin_yamagata »

kevin_yamagata

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Re: New Handheld Game Console, cheapest!
« Reply #23 on: June 23, 2020, 03:05:38 pm »
Better Clone?

https://a.aliexpress.com/_d7YOYnk

**Edit  it has a volume controller and usb type c input, now it looks like a new model same.


I found this ugly, I prefer the first model, looks like more a game boy, but its ugly too lmao
Indeed, but is it that the emulation quality has improved?  The way is to wait for the Review on YouTube.

Your Review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-m1uTMNzQw

kndcds

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Re: New Handheld Game Console, cheapest!
« Reply #24 on: June 23, 2020, 03:31:25 pm »
Better Clone?

https://a.aliexpress.com/_d7YOYnk

**Edit  it has a volume controller and usb type c input, now it looks like a new model same.


I found this ugly, I prefer the first model, looks like more a game boy, but its ugly too lmao
Indeed, but is it that the emulation quality has improved?  The way is to wait for the Review on YouTube.

Your Review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-m1uTMNzQw
Unfortunately it's the same crap.




kevin_yamagata

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Re: New Handheld Game Console, cheapest!
« Reply #25 on: June 23, 2020, 06:49:54 pm »
Well, the system have a better performance on the arcade games, but stills crap yet. I wish this get a opendingux port soon.

kevin_yamagata

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Re: New Handheld Game Console, cheapest!
« Reply #26 on: June 29, 2020, 10:11:46 pm »
**UPDATE**: It has an zh1901mp02c chip, which is the same one the RS-07 has. As this is new info, I will check if this machine does have any custom fimware and test if it works.

Ok, so I got mine, and it is not a simple rebrand of the RS-69. Yes, it uses the same OS and emulators, so it has the same base compatibility issues (same ROMs not loading, and the same layer priority issues for SNES), HOWEVER, it does not use the same chip (FC100s), it uses a different chip which I have been unable to identify yet. As a result, it has better performance on GBA ROMs (it used to have random frame skips), very playable performance for the most part on Genesis ROMs (it used to have nasty frame skip, now it seems to run between 80-90% speed, which while noticeable, does not bother much), much less frameskip in Arcade ROMs (goes from somewhat playable to quite playable), and less screen tear in NES ROMs (goes from looking like the screen is made of sloshing water to almost unnoticeable screen tear (and I am quite sensitive to it). Add to that the fact it has 6 action buttons makes for better gameplay.

As no device is perfect, especially Chinese devices, here come the cons:
- The D-Pad is absolute crap. It registered 2 of 5 diagonal presses. I modified it by opening the console, and cutting the 4 tabs it had on the diagonal axis (no idea why it had those), then using moldable compound to add approximately 2-3mm to the ball pivot it has. The result is that now all diagonals now work, and the increased height of the ball pivot prevents pressing all 4 directions at once.
- The screen has a "bad" viewing angle. I say "bad" because it will only bother you at the beginning, and will be noticeable if you keep putting it to the side just to remind yourself how much you hate those angles. The thing is, it looks ok at the angle you are supposed to play. Not the best screen, but I have seen worse and much worse.
- The menu button is gone, and now you have to press the select button for a few seconds to active the menu to exit or save and load states. Add to this the fact that using this menu is the only way to save (it doesn't create save files for those games that save), and the fact that some games use the select button for some functions and it can be a bit of a hassle.
- There is no volume rocker, only a volume button that goes up. So you have to press it to go louder and louder until it goes mute, then gets louder again. And it resets every time you turn off the machine. I saw some circuitry that could allow for the installation of a volume rocker, but then you would need to change the ON/OFF switch. Ugh...
- It does have an indicator LED, but it is hidden inside the machine. So you cannot tell if it is charging, if it has finished charging, if it managed to turn on, etc. Now, this might not be a problem for some people, but I would have preferred the LED be visible.

All in all, it's not bad. But... at 18-20 USD, it is in Bittboy V3.5 territory, and for 9-12 USD more you can get a Pocket Go, which is a much better machine. As I have got it already, I am going to use it as a cheap handheld on the go. If it breaks, it won't hurt as much as it would if my Bittboy or Pocket Go died. The ideal price point for a machine such as this is 15 USD maximum. If you can get it for that price, I recommend it if you need something to use on trips where you fear a more expensive machine might not return from. Hopefully the advent of machines such as this will push back those NES clone handhelds back to their original 5-9 USD price points.

If you want to know about ROM compatibility, think it similar to those of the early emulators of the DOS days, aka Nesticle, Genecyst, and whatever it's contemporary for the SNES was. This includes not just ROM compatibility, but sprite and layers issues it may have had as well.

Also, never buy something hoping there is custom firmware. Chances machine will get custom firmware are almost nil. Only reason those machines that did get custom firmware, was that they had a derivative of Open Dingux to begin with. So if you can't understand the difference between that and how machines work, my advice is to stick to WELL KNOWN MACHINES THAT ALREADY HAVE CUSTOM FIRMWARE. As such, I won't test games of any sort, not check if any CFW will work on it, as I believe I have provided sufficient information in this and my previous posts for people to know whether they still want this or not, and am sufficiently satisfied with how it works.

Hello, i have a funny storie

I wrote the Bittboy V2 system on a 32GB SD card and put it on the XYC Q8 and it worked! Yes, just wrote an image to work.

But there are some problems, the screen is upside down and the buttons don't work, just the X button that takes a screenshot. But I can see the menus!
This was a great sign! Then I tried the PocketGo img, because of the L and R buttons, and the screen stayed white, no results.

Conclusion, this handheld can now receive a OpenDingux port hahaha

kndcds

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Re: New Handheld Game Console, cheapest!
« Reply #27 on: June 29, 2020, 11:08:04 pm »
VERY COOL!

kevin_yamagata

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Re: New Handheld Game Console, cheapest!
« Reply #28 on: June 30, 2020, 12:21:12 am »
look at this.
I tryed a lot of systens on him (Like the V3.5 CFW and LDK Game) and just the bittboy V2 img as worked. The pocketgo just present the gameboy boot sound in a full white screen.

The bittboy v2 have a start then turn of the screen automaticaly.

So i made a crazy mix with the BittBoy V2 System and the Pocket Go Sytem. Replace some folders and boot files, like a CRAZY BOY.

Results:

Now the console dont turn of automaticaly, and three buttons work, the Dpad Down (Its like A) and Right (Its like B), the  Button X (its like Up), the button A (its like Down) and the Button Y open some options. I will continue making this bizarre test and see what it happen.

(The stock system of XYC Q8 works normaly, its just change the Sd card files)
« Last Edit: June 30, 2020, 12:29:02 am by kevin_yamagata »

kndcds

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Re: New Handheld Game Console, cheapest!
« Reply #29 on: June 30, 2020, 12:31:37 am »
Well, there are several members here on the forum who are able to resolve these details.  But congratulations on the experiment.  I believe that it would be enough to just reconfigure the buttons and rectify some things.
« Last Edit: June 30, 2020, 12:33:26 am by kndcds »

kevin_yamagata

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Re: New Handheld Game Console, cheapest!
« Reply #30 on: June 30, 2020, 12:48:12 am »
Well, there are several members here on the forum who are able to resolve these details.  But congratulations on the experiment.  I believe that it would be enough to just reconfigure the buttons and rectify some things.

Thanks for the patience!

Infernus

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Re: New Handheld Game Console, cheapest!
« Reply #31 on: July 01, 2020, 10:05:02 pm »
**UPDATE**: It has an zh1901mp02c chip, which is the same one the RS-07 has. As this is new info, I will check if this machine does have any custom fimware and test if it works.

Ok, so I got mine, and it is not a simple rebrand of the RS-69. Yes, it uses the same OS and emulators, so it has the same base compatibility issues (same ROMs not loading, and the same layer priority issues for SNES), HOWEVER, it does not use the same chip (FC100s), it uses a different chip which I have been unable to identify yet. As a result, it has better performance on GBA ROMs (it used to have random frame skips), very playable performance for the most part on Genesis ROMs (it used to have nasty frame skip, now it seems to run between 80-90% speed, which while noticeable, does not bother much), much less frameskip in Arcade ROMs (goes from somewhat playable to quite playable), and less screen tear in NES ROMs (goes from looking like the screen is made of sloshing water to almost unnoticeable screen tear (and I am quite sensitive to it). Add to that the fact it has 6 action buttons makes for better gameplay.

As no device is perfect, especially Chinese devices, here come the cons:
- The D-Pad is absolute crap. It registered 2 of 5 diagonal presses. I modified it by opening the console, and cutting the 4 tabs it had on the diagonal axis (no idea why it had those), then using moldable compound to add approximately 2-3mm to the ball pivot it has. The result is that now all diagonals now work, and the increased height of the ball pivot prevents pressing all 4 directions at once.
- The screen has a "bad" viewing angle. I say "bad" because it will only bother you at the beginning, and will be noticeable if you keep putting it to the side just to remind yourself how much you hate those angles. The thing is, it looks ok at the angle you are supposed to play. Not the best screen, but I have seen worse and much worse.
- The menu button is gone, and now you have to press the select button for a few seconds to active the menu to exit or save and load states. Add to this the fact that using this menu is the only way to save (it doesn't create save files for those games that save), and the fact that some games use the select button for some functions and it can be a bit of a hassle.
- There is no volume rocker, only a volume button that goes up. So you have to press it to go louder and louder until it goes mute, then gets louder again. And it resets every time you turn off the machine. I saw some circuitry that could allow for the installation of a volume rocker, but then you would need to change the ON/OFF switch. Ugh...
- It does have an indicator LED, but it is hidden inside the machine. So you cannot tell if it is charging, if it has finished charging, if it managed to turn on, etc. Now, this might not be a problem for some people, but I would have preferred the LED be visible.

All in all, it's not bad. But... at 18-20 USD, it is in Bittboy V3.5 territory, and for 9-12 USD more you can get a Pocket Go, which is a much better machine. As I have got it already, I am going to use it as a cheap handheld on the go. If it breaks, it won't hurt as much as it would if my Bittboy or Pocket Go died. The ideal price point for a machine such as this is 15 USD maximum. If you can get it for that price, I recommend it if you need something to use on trips where you fear a more expensive machine might not return from. Hopefully the advent of machines such as this will push back those NES clone handhelds back to their original 5-9 USD price points.

If you want to know about ROM compatibility, think it similar to those of the early emulators of the DOS days, aka Nesticle, Genecyst, and whatever it's contemporary for the SNES was. This includes not just ROM compatibility, but sprite and layers issues it may have had as well.

Also, never buy something hoping there is custom firmware. Chances machine will get custom firmware are almost nil. Only reason those machines that did get custom firmware, was that they had a derivative of Open Dingux to begin with. So if you can't understand the difference between that and how machines work, my advice is to stick to WELL KNOWN MACHINES THAT ALREADY HAVE CUSTOM FIRMWARE. As such, I won't test games of any sort, not check if any CFW will work on it, as I believe I have provided sufficient information in this and my previous posts for people to know whether they still want this or not, and am sufficiently satisfied with how it works.
Bittboy is 29$. Not in 18-20$ category. Its almost 50% more than the price. Its been like that for 8 months now.

kevin_yamagata

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Re: New Handheld Game Console, cheapest!
« Reply #32 on: July 01, 2020, 10:48:05 pm »
Hey! I managed to remap some buttons to browse in gmenu2x and start all emulators and games. But when I enter an application, remapping does not work and games are still impossible to play, only a few buttons work like, Up, Down, R, A and B without Left and Right.

The screen is still upside down, I don't know what to do. The colors are very inverted, everything is so blue and strange which the megaman stayed orange hahaha

This handheld device is very powerful! It can run Resident Evil 1 and 3 at 60fps. Tekken 3 is very slow at 30fps. Crash Bandcoot at 50fps and 30fps.
I tryed Snes and it worked very well, 60fps in most games, only the yoshis island has a lot of slowness.
Doom 1 and 2 works perfectly at 60fps.
Quake 1 is so smooth! Quake 2 worked with good fps, but it has some slow downs due to the explosions.

I think the specs are like LDK Vertical. And for the price (20-24 USD) that is a good buy if the developers work on this firmware. The screen is a GARBAGE, but it's still worth it.

kndcds

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Re: New Handheld Game Console, cheapest!
« Reply #33 on: July 01, 2020, 10:52:46 pm »
Hey! I managed to remap some buttons to browse in gmenu2x and start all emulators and games. But when I enter an application, remapping does not work and games are still impossible to play, only a few buttons work like, Up, Down, R, A and B without Left and Right.

The screen is still upside down, I don't know what to do. The colors are very inverted, everything is so blue and strange which the megaman stayed orange hahaha

This handheld device is very powerful! It can run Resident Evil 1 and 3 at 60fps. Tekken 3 is very slow at 30fps. Crash Bandcoot at 50fps and 30fps.
I tryed Snes and it worked very well, 60fps in most games, only the yoshis island has a lot of slowness.
Doom 1 and 2 works perfectly at 60fps.
Quake 1 is so smooth! Quake 2 worked with good fps, but it has some slow downs due to the explosions.

I think the specs are like LDK Vertical. And for the price (20-24 USD) that is a good buy if the developers work on this firmware. The screen is a GARBAGE, but it's still worth it.
This is incredible!
I'm almost buying one of these!
I think OpenDingux would be perfect in this other version:

https://a.aliexpress.com/_dYaXqq6

kevin_yamagata

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Re: New Handheld Game Console, cheapest!
« Reply #34 on: July 01, 2020, 11:10:43 pm »
Hey! I managed to remap some buttons to browse in gmenu2x and start all emulators and games. But when I enter an application, remapping does not work and games are still impossible to play, only a few buttons work like, Up, Down, R, A and B without Left and Right.

The screen is still upside down, I don't know what to do. The colors are very inverted, everything is so blue and strange which the megaman stayed orange hahaha

This handheld device is very powerful! It can run Resident Evil 1 and 3 at 60fps. Tekken 3 is very slow at 30fps. Crash Bandcoot at 50fps and 30fps.
I tryed Snes and it worked very well, 60fps in most games, only the yoshis island has a lot of slowness.
Doom 1 and 2 works perfectly at 60fps.
Quake 1 is so smooth! Quake 2 worked with good fps, but it has some slow downs due to the explosions.

I think the specs are like LDK Vertical. And for the price (20-24 USD) that is a good buy if the developers work on this firmware. The screen is a GARBAGE, but it's still worth it.
This is incredible!
I'm almost buying one of these!
I think OpenDingux would be perfect in this other version:

https://a.aliexpress.com/_dYaXqq6

Yaz! I think so.

kevin_yamagata

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Re: New Handheld Game Console, cheapest!
« Reply #35 on: July 03, 2020, 01:22:10 am »
This is a little resume about what i did for that one who want try the Firmware on your XYC Q8 by himself.

Ps: I recomend you make a backup of the sd card first. The Stock Firmware will continue working normaly after the CFW install, just copy the correct folders and files for a formated Sd Card again.

Step 1:
You can download the Bittboy V2 firmware right here
https://rs97.bitgala.xyz/Bittboy/Bittboy%20cfw/Bittboy_V2_V2.5_CFW_V1.3.1_23-09-19.img.7z

Step 2: Write the img on a Sd Card using the Wind32diskImager or some equal program. After this, plug the sd card on the console.

"When i will test it with this version 2.5 of V2, the screen is upside down, the arrow keys do not move, and when I press another button, the screen turn off automaticaly." That is normal in the first time.

So, i made a fix for this issue on that link.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/15F4P9uKCGn5lPhkMSBVke8pjMkTMdbTm?usp=sharing

Step 3: You will unzip the folder and replace the respective files. Plug the sdcard adapter again and on the Boot partition you replace all them with the files in the folder "boot". In the "main" particion you will replace for the folder "kernel" and "gmenu2x".
(Note: The screen stills upside down and all the colors are strange, i really dont know what do here)

Now, you can open the emulators and games. You can make a test with psone games! (Note: When you open a emulator or app the button mapping enter on default config, so, just some buttons work, like Up, Down and A)

And this is it, this not are a official firmware, i made this test and he worked, i am not a system developer. We need of developers to make a decent port of the OpenDingux for the XYC Q8.


Djvanbeat

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Re: New Handheld Game Console, cheapest!
« Reply #36 on: July 03, 2020, 12:54:12 pm »
nice work!

kndcds

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Re: New Handheld Game Console, cheapest!
« Reply #37 on: July 08, 2020, 02:15:41 am »
Ei Mano, eu ? BR tamb?m, em?

Eu ainda n?o tenho dispositivo. Mas tomara que algum desenvolvedor se comprometa a investigar tamb?m.

Enviado de meu moto g(7) play usando o Tapatalk


kevin_yamagata

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Re: New Handheld Game Console, cheapest!
« Reply #38 on: July 08, 2020, 01:30:53 pm »
Ei Mano, eu ? BR tamb?m, em?

Eu ainda n?o tenho dispositivo. Mas tomara que algum desenvolvedor se comprometa a investigar tamb?m.

Enviado de meu moto g(7) play usando o Tapatalk

Eu estou aguardando os desenvolvedores do OpenDingux se interessarem em trabalhar no porte para o XYC. N?o sou programador e entendo pouco sobre os sistemas.
« Last Edit: July 09, 2020, 02:13:11 am by kevin_yamagata »

kndcds

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Re: New Handheld Game Console, cheapest!
« Reply #39 on: July 09, 2020, 07:00:51 pm »
Vamos aguardar, n?.

Enviado de meu moto g(7) play usando o Tapatalk


 

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