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Title: R4i/DS Thread
Post by: Trevor Belomont on February 11, 2013, 10:57:17 pm
So i got an R4i Dual Core (white) flashcard for all DS's.
It has the latest fimware and i've got all of the emulators for the systems i want to play off of it...
NES/Famicom, GB/GBC, SNES, SMS/GG, Genesis/MD, Colecovision, Commodore 64, Atari:800/5200/2600/7800, MAME, ZX-Spectrum, even the pain in the ass NeoGeo emu...
All except the Turbografx-16 emu, "Nitrografx".

It will start up, let me select a game to load, then just get stuck on the blue, "press L+R or touch the screen for options" screen.
I've messed with it on and off for a couple of days, searched everywhere on the net and nothing.
I'm pretty good at troubleshooting but this is killing me.

Does anyone have "Nitrografx" up and fully running on an R4i Dual Core (white)?
(Note: it works fine on r4i-sdhc-3ds and other cards, but this one has different setup requirements.)

[Edit: There are at least 2 different white Dual Core cards. One says "NEW" on the label, the other says "2013". they use different FW.]
Title: Re: R4i Dual Core problem
Post by: Trevor Belomont on February 16, 2013, 10:19:18 pm
I've given up the ghost on the Nitrografx thing.
Aparently you'll need an alternate emulator, problem is, there is no alternative for Nitrografx. :S

But, i have gotten the PC's DOOM and Quake up and running on the DS.
That's pretty kick-ass.

[Edit: I just figured out the problem is with the firmware for the "new" label version, wich at the moment is inferior to the "2013" label on r4i-sdhc-dual core (white).
A couple of emu/homebrews just don't work or have issues with the "new" labeled one...]

Cricket...cricket... haha!
Title: Re: R4i Thread
Post by: lemmywinks on February 16, 2013, 11:14:21 pm
Quake on DS is killer, I really like the control setup for FPS games and played the hell outta that when I got my DS. I did get a bug on later levels (like right near the end) which kinda made me quit playing it.
Title: Re: R4i Thread
Post by: Trevor Belomont on February 17, 2013, 03:40:53 am
Yeah, Quake rocks.
The only thing i need to figure out is how to get that badass, redbook audio soundtrack from Trent Reznor to work with it as well, if that's even possible...

That soundtrack was one of the main reasons i bought the game back in the 90's.
Cool thing about it is the redbook audio files being present on the disc enables it to be popped into a standard CD player and listened to.
Kind of like some of those older PSX games such as Destruction Dirby 2, Tomb Raider, Crime Killer, etc...
(another cool trick for those type of PSX games was to start the game and then pop in your own music CD for some gaming/custom soundtrack action...anyone else remember that...? Kicked ass!)
Title: Re: R4i Thread
Post by: MightyJAK on February 18, 2013, 10:22:27 pm
(another cool trick for those type of PSX games was to start the game and then pop in your own music CD for some gaming/custom soundtrack action...anyone else remember that...? Kicked ass!)
Yup, IIRC that was one of the advertised features of Ridge Racer Revolution (and an undocumented feature of the original Ridge Racer). My friend loved playing RR with James Bond music  :D
Title: Re: R4i Thread
Post by: Trevor Belomont on February 20, 2013, 10:56:03 am
Just added the MineCraft DS homebrew (in addition to Doom 1, 2 and Quake).
Pretty sweet...

Sorry, this stuff's not new at all, but it is to me.
Surely i can't be the only one who missed out on all this great stuff...
Title: Re: R4i Thread
Post by: lemmywinks on February 20, 2013, 08:56:08 pm
I did exactly the same thing with my Wii, sat there under the TV for ages and one day I decided to letterbomb it and install Quake, Doom, some emulators and XBMC. What a difference it makes!

It's replaced the failing XBox 360 as the bog standard media player (we're SD in this house). Unfortunately mine is a later model which can't play DVDs (booooo Nintendo!) but apart from that it's brilliant. Gonna see about getting it to play import games soon - I have a strange urge to play Fishing Resort....
Title: Re: R4i/DS Thread
Post by: Trevor Belomont on March 01, 2013, 07:05:32 pm
Interesting... :)
I wonder if the Wii U will have anything extra you can et out of it like that, more multimedia supprt, emulation and such...

Yeah, I actually wasn't even into DS's until fairly recently, perhaps within the last 2 years or so.
I used to be pretty keen on PSP, thinking the DS's were for kids. Was totally unaware of the great libarary of great games, the nice form factor/interface and tons of extra apps, particularly the DSi and 3DS, and then of course, the flashcards blow the "must have" factor through the roof for emulation (even with the few with big drawbacks), multimedia and rom support.

I look back ashamed. haha.

Better late then never though, to discover how truly wonderful a handheld (family) really is.
Although recently could'nt be a better time to discover all this, with some of the best flashcards hitting the streets these days.

I've been having problems with DSi shoulder button dysfunctionality.
(seems to have been a wide spread problem w/ DSL, DSi and even 3DS)
After some googling, i ran across an easy fix that actually works for the DSi.
The guy said to blow into the buttons, one at a time, as hard as you can or use compressed air.
I did the former, thinking maybe he was just joshing, but it worked!

The L and R buttons are working MUCH better now even just short of flawless.
Beats having to open it up again.
Strange and ineresting...
Title: Re: R4i/DS Thread
Post by: lemmywinks on March 01, 2013, 07:31:16 pm
Yeah I was kinda hoping the WiiU and the tablet controller would be hackable, would be a really cool media centre. There's something about the Wii design that just sits nicely under the TV, plays all my Gamecube games too! You can get RetroArch on it now although it is limited and a lot of stuff I tried didn't work. If you own a Wii and haven't hacked it yet do it, it only takes a few minutes and is stupidly easy.

Regarding the whols "DS is for kids PSP is for adults" thing I think it's actually the other way around. DS is for everyone - it has kiddy games, puzzle games, horror games, crosswords, FPS.... Don't think there's ever been a console with such a variety of software on it before. In fact when I used to travel on public transport a lot I used to see loads of adults (20s - 60s) playing on their DS!

The PSP actually seems to be targeted more at teenage boys than any other demographic - the "adult" games are in fact just the usual cut down console ports which spotty teenagers seem to like so much. Take the God of War games for instance - totally targeted at teenage kids right down to the soft-core porn mini games yet they're supposed to be for adults.
I own a PSP and a shedload of games and think it's a pretty [email protected] console tbh. Those loading times!  ::)
Title: Re: R4i/DS Thread
Post by: Trevor Belomont on March 04, 2013, 05:18:34 am
Yes, i was closed minded at the time, and erroneous in my assumptions.
This was like 7 years ago.
Ive since switched my views.
The PSP is pretty limited compared in scope and audience compared to the DS family of games.
Love the RPGs, Horror, the oh so easy jail broken potential that is so easily unlocked and the screen protecting form factor.

I love the way the DS's look so reminiscent of the old Game and Watch handhelds of the same basic form. Totally kick-ass, retro meets new tech vibe.

Title: Re: R4i/DS Thread
Post by: Trevor Belomont on March 05, 2013, 04:59:06 am
While we're hanging out and chewing the fat, here's some custom work to oggle over...

Title: Re: R4i/DS Thread
Post by: lemmywinks on March 05, 2013, 09:22:54 am
That middle one is great, I actually thougt it was a Game & Watch at first!
Title: Re: R4i/DS Thread
Post by: Trevor Belomont on March 05, 2013, 10:00:11 pm
Thanks!

I thought the same thing after i did them up.
I'm gonna try some other color variations that will look more "game and watch" style, like the pics from the internet below...
Title: Re: R4i/DS Thread
Post by: lemmywinks on March 05, 2013, 10:40:59 pm
You've made me want a DS Phat now!

Got rid of mine ages ago when I bought a DS Lite but I bet you can pick them up for next to nothing now.
Title: Re: R4i/DS Thread
Post by: Trevor Belomont on March 08, 2013, 12:05:57 am
I want one too.
Probably in Red, Orange or White if possible.
Not even sure if they came in orange or white, have to research it...
Title: Re: R4i/DS Thread
Post by: lemmywinks on March 17, 2013, 02:39:52 pm
Dunno if this is news to anyone but the dev behind the DS version of Minecraft is making a Portal game for DS. Early days yet but looks great:
http://smealum.net/
Title: Re: R4i/DS Thread
Post by: Trevor Belomont on March 17, 2013, 08:39:51 pm
Wow, it looks pretty rad.
Can't wait to play it.

I haven't played any of the other Portal games, so this is pretty fresh to me.

On a side note, has anyone gotten the Famicom Disk System roms running on NesDS...?

Cant find a thing about it specifically online anywhere else...
For me, you can hear it upon startup, see some pixelated mess, then just black and then nothing.

Nice rewind / fast forward action with the L and R buttons with the NES games though.
Totally rad!
Title: Re: R4i/DS Thread
Post by: MightyJAK on March 26, 2013, 03:34:37 pm
Partially thanks to this thread, I decided to pick up a DS Phat this weekend at the MGC. So now I'm in the market for an R4, but I'm a bit confused by the number of different versions. Eachgame has a couple of different cards up for sale on their scare buying page for the next 17 hours:

US$5.67 R4i-SDHC Upgrade WiFi Mini Package for 3DS/DSi LL/DSi/DS Lite/DS V1.4.5 - Points Shop Free Shipping  (http://www.eachgame.net/goods-5510.html)

US$7.63 Unlimited Upgradable R4i SDHC Dual Core Smart Card for V4.5.0-10 3DS/V1.4.5 Dsi/Dsi LL/XL/DSL/DS + Micro SD 4GB  (http://www.eachgame.net/goods-5951.html)

Rather than try to deciepher the chinglish marketing-speak in the product descriptions, can someone with experience with these things tell me what the real differnces are between these two models, which one is most recommended, or should I be looking for something else?
Title: Re: R4i/DS Thread
Post by: Trevor Belomont on March 26, 2013, 04:07:56 pm
Can't see the items without having to log in first, but those prices are pretty damn good.
They must be trying to offload stock pretty quickly.

From my experience with both the R4i-3DS-SDHC and the R4i-Dual Core (white) versions, the Dual Core cards are MUCH faster and more reliable than the others.
I've also tried R4-3DS-Gold, didn't like that one as much either.

For a first timer, i'd go with the Dual Core for now.
It's a great card.

Like I mentioned earlier in the thread, I have most of the best emulators running, except the Turbografx-16 one (Nitrografx), and it runs Moonshell 2 pretty well (ver. 2.10 stable, the latest one i could find so far...), helps with the "iku"app for Ebook reading, but that's no problem.
So if you have any questions on getting setup, I can help.
[Edit: The limitations above are relevant to the "NEW" label dual core, wich is slightly inferior software-wise to the newer, "2013" labeled version. Mainly due to the "2013" one having a newer firmware and i'm assuming, a newer chipset, seeing as they use different FW. As far as i've experienced, everything runs fine on "2013" models.]

All the cards i've used have also had slight to major variations on how they need to be set up to run everything nice and smooth, but it's no biggy...

There is an alternative that I keep reading about that has me interested.
It's the SuperCard DSTwo, because they say it has a built-in GBA emulator and an improved SNES emu.
I'm not sure if it supports the latest DSi firmware or can run on 3DS, as it is an older card, plus they're around $40, wich is very pricey just to be able to play GBA without a slot 2 card...
Title: Re: R4i/DS Thread
Post by: MightyJAK on March 26, 2013, 07:36:53 pm
Thanks for the quick reply Turkish, my inner cheapskate was leaning heavily toward the $5.67 one with the free shipping, but from what you said it looks like the dual core one is the better bargain, the higher price is likely actually due to the included 4GB microSD card.

As you can see from my sig, I've already got plenty of options for emulation, what I'm really interested in this is for homebrew. Can't wait to try out Minecraft!   8)
Title: Re: R4i/DS Thread
Post by: Trevor Belomont on March 26, 2013, 08:54:57 pm
Hey, you're welcome.

Yeah, for that price, you really can't go wrong with having either of them.
Besides speed, you would notice the difference in user interface, but they both will support homebrew about the same.

Oh, yeah, whoa.
I think I have seen that system list of yours before, but I may have fainted from the shock...
Pretty sweet... :)

Title: Re: R4i/DS Thread
Post by: MightyJAK on March 27, 2013, 01:12:15 am
Yeah, for that price, I would just get them both
Maybe if I had 2 DSs I could justify buying 2 cards. Come to think of it, I have been considering getting a 3DS ever since I got a chance to play Final Fantasy Theatrhythm (a fusion of my 2 favorite genres, RPG and rhythm game, how could I resist). Thanks to Nintendo flooding the market with lite and XL models, you can already find a used 3DS for under $100 quite easily... heh, if my happy little console family keeps growing at this rate, I'm going to run out of room in my sig soon!  :P
Title: Re: R4i/DS Thread
Post by: Trevor Belomont on March 30, 2013, 08:53:54 am
Better to run out of room in your sig than run out of room at home for all your gear. ha!
I've had to downsize my collections at least a few times.
That's what i love about handhelds. They're small, portable, don't take up much room and you can stockpile them just about anywhere.

Man, i didn't even realize that NitroGrafx supported PCE-CD based games.
Guess i should read the full "read me" files. haha
Anyway, I got Castlevania: Dracula X - Rondo of Blood running and WOW, it's pretty damn near perfect.
The version I got has the redbook audio built-in to the iso, so the experience is very complete.

I know the Chronicles version is on PSP, I have that one too. Rocks...
It's "better", with all those extras, but there's something about being able to play the original on the DSi and 3DS.
Like this "naughty" feeling...ha!

Why they didn't at least re-release Symphony of the Night on the DS is beyond me.
Would've been a perfect setup with the map and sub-menu on the bottom screen...

The same can be said for Super Metroid on DS.
Nintendo needs to consult more of it's game fans for input on what they'd like to see.
Too many great, missed opportunities...

Double post merged

As you can see from my sig, I've already got plenty of options for emulation, what I'm really interested in this is for homebrew. Can't wait to try out Minecraft!   8)

Dude, you weren't kidding.
There's tons of really cool homebrew out there.
It's not too big of a surprise seeing as how the DS family has been around since like 2004 and hasn't really changed too much software-wise until the 3DS was released.
(Almost a decade to play around with.)

Here's pretty good collection of homebrew I just found.
Maybe you're familiar with these, maybe you're not, but I figured i'd post it anyway.
Lots of good stuff...

http://gbatemp.net/threads/essentials-homebrew.258689/
Title: Re: R4i/DS Thread
Post by: Chosen1 on December 14, 2013, 01:19:21 pm
Get a supercard dstwo. It is the most advanced flashcart so far as it has gba emulation. If you want to play 3ds roms, get a gateway 3ds. I am also a proud member of Gbatemp.net, they have lots of reviews.
Title: Re: R4i/DS Thread
Post by: Koji-Kendo on January 13, 2014, 06:55:58 am
Get a supercard dstwo. It is the most advanced flashcart so far as it has gba emulation. If you want to play 3ds roms, get a gateway 3ds. I am also a proud member of Gbatemp.net, they have lots of reviews.

The supercard dstwo's cost like $40+ and the gateways aren't stable enough to justify that approximate $100 for one.

Stick with the cheaper, $12 r4i's, at the worst, $12 isn't anything to pine over if they stop supporting the firmware updates and they will always be useful on DSi's, DS Lites and DS fat bois...

Just sayin. :-)