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Trevor Belomont

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R4i/DS Thread
« on: February 11, 2013, 10:57:17 pm »
So i got an R4i Dual Core (white) flashcard for all DS's.
It has the latest fimware and i've got all of the emulators for the systems i want to play off of it...
NES/Famicom, GB/GBC, SNES, SMS/GG, Genesis/MD, Colecovision, Commodore 64, Atari:800/5200/2600/7800, MAME, ZX-Spectrum, even the pain in the ass NeoGeo emu...
All except the Turbografx-16 emu, "Nitrografx".

It will start up, let me select a game to load, then just get stuck on the blue, "press L+R or touch the screen for options" screen.
I've messed with it on and off for a couple of days, searched everywhere on the net and nothing.
I'm pretty good at troubleshooting but this is killing me.

Does anyone have "Nitrografx" up and fully running on an R4i Dual Core (white)?
(Note: it works fine on r4i-sdhc-3ds and other cards, but this one has different setup requirements.)

[Edit: There are at least 2 different white Dual Core cards. One says "NEW" on the label, the other says "2013". they use different FW.]
« Last Edit: March 27, 2013, 09:48:30 pm by Turkish »

Trevor Belomont

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Re: R4i Dual Core problem
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2013, 10:19:18 pm »
I've given up the ghost on the Nitrografx thing.
Aparently you'll need an alternate emulator, problem is, there is no alternative for Nitrografx. :S

But, i have gotten the PC's DOOM and Quake up and running on the DS.
That's pretty kick-ass.

[Edit: I just figured out the problem is with the firmware for the "new" label version, wich at the moment is inferior to the "2013" label on r4i-sdhc-dual core (white).
A couple of emu/homebrews just don't work or have issues with the "new" labeled one...]

Cricket...cricket... haha!
« Last Edit: April 02, 2013, 01:31:34 pm by Turkish »

lemmywinks

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Re: R4i Thread
« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2013, 11:14:21 pm »
Quake on DS is killer, I really like the control setup for FPS games and played the hell outta that when I got my DS. I did get a bug on later levels (like right near the end) which kinda made me quit playing it.
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Trevor Belomont

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Re: R4i Thread
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2013, 03:40:53 am »
Yeah, Quake rocks.
The only thing i need to figure out is how to get that badass, redbook audio soundtrack from Trent Reznor to work with it as well, if that's even possible...

That soundtrack was one of the main reasons i bought the game back in the 90's.
Cool thing about it is the redbook audio files being present on the disc enables it to be popped into a standard CD player and listened to.
Kind of like some of those older PSX games such as Destruction Dirby 2, Tomb Raider, Crime Killer, etc...
(another cool trick for those type of PSX games was to start the game and then pop in your own music CD for some gaming/custom soundtrack action...anyone else remember that...? Kicked ass!)
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Re: R4i Thread
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2013, 10:22:27 pm »
(another cool trick for those type of PSX games was to start the game and then pop in your own music CD for some gaming/custom soundtrack action...anyone else remember that...? Kicked ass!)
Yup, IIRC that was one of the advertised features of Ridge Racer Revolution (and an undocumented feature of the original Ridge Racer). My friend loved playing RR with James Bond music  :D
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Trevor Belomont

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Re: R4i Thread
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2013, 10:56:03 am »
Just added the MineCraft DS homebrew (in addition to Doom 1, 2 and Quake).
Pretty sweet...

Sorry, this stuff's not new at all, but it is to me.
Surely i can't be the only one who missed out on all this great stuff...
« Last Edit: February 25, 2013, 10:51:28 pm by Turkish »

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Re: R4i Thread
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2013, 08:56:08 pm »
I did exactly the same thing with my Wii, sat there under the TV for ages and one day I decided to letterbomb it and install Quake, Doom, some emulators and XBMC. What a difference it makes!

It's replaced the failing XBox 360 as the bog standard media player (we're SD in this house). Unfortunately mine is a later model which can't play DVDs (booooo Nintendo!) but apart from that it's brilliant. Gonna see about getting it to play import games soon - I have a strange urge to play Fishing Resort....
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Trevor Belomont

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Re: R4i/DS Thread
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2013, 07:05:32 pm »
Interesting... :)
I wonder if the Wii U will have anything extra you can et out of it like that, more multimedia supprt, emulation and such...

Yeah, I actually wasn't even into DS's until fairly recently, perhaps within the last 2 years or so.
I used to be pretty keen on PSP, thinking the DS's were for kids. Was totally unaware of the great libarary of great games, the nice form factor/interface and tons of extra apps, particularly the DSi and 3DS, and then of course, the flashcards blow the "must have" factor through the roof for emulation (even with the few with big drawbacks), multimedia and rom support.

I look back ashamed. haha.

Better late then never though, to discover how truly wonderful a handheld (family) really is.
Although recently could'nt be a better time to discover all this, with some of the best flashcards hitting the streets these days.

I've been having problems with DSi shoulder button dysfunctionality.
(seems to have been a wide spread problem w/ DSL, DSi and even 3DS)
After some googling, i ran across an easy fix that actually works for the DSi.
The guy said to blow into the buttons, one at a time, as hard as you can or use compressed air.
I did the former, thinking maybe he was just joshing, but it worked!

The L and R buttons are working MUCH better now even just short of flawless.
Beats having to open it up again.
Strange and ineresting...

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Re: R4i/DS Thread
« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2013, 07:31:16 pm »
Yeah I was kinda hoping the WiiU and the tablet controller would be hackable, would be a really cool media centre. There's something about the Wii design that just sits nicely under the TV, plays all my Gamecube games too! You can get RetroArch on it now although it is limited and a lot of stuff I tried didn't work. If you own a Wii and haven't hacked it yet do it, it only takes a few minutes and is stupidly easy.

Regarding the whols "DS is for kids PSP is for adults" thing I think it's actually the other way around. DS is for everyone - it has kiddy games, puzzle games, horror games, crosswords, FPS.... Don't think there's ever been a console with such a variety of software on it before. In fact when I used to travel on public transport a lot I used to see loads of adults (20s - 60s) playing on their DS!

The PSP actually seems to be targeted more at teenage boys than any other demographic - the "adult" games are in fact just the usual cut down console ports which spotty teenagers seem to like so much. Take the God of War games for instance - totally targeted at teenage kids right down to the soft-core porn mini games yet they're supposed to be for adults.
I own a PSP and a shedload of games and think it's a pretty [email protected] console tbh. Those loading times!  ::)
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Trevor Belomont

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Re: R4i/DS Thread
« Reply #9 on: March 04, 2013, 05:18:34 am »
Yes, i was closed minded at the time, and erroneous in my assumptions.
This was like 7 years ago.
Ive since switched my views.
The PSP is pretty limited compared in scope and audience compared to the DS family of games.
Love the RPGs, Horror, the oh so easy jail broken potential that is so easily unlocked and the screen protecting form factor.

I love the way the DS's look so reminiscent of the old Game and Watch handhelds of the same basic form. Totally kick-ass, retro meets new tech vibe.

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Trevor Belomont

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Re: R4i/DS Thread
« Reply #10 on: March 05, 2013, 04:59:06 am »
While we're hanging out and chewing the fat, here's some custom work to oggle over...

« Last Edit: March 05, 2013, 06:33:43 am by Turkish »

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Re: R4i/DS Thread
« Reply #11 on: March 05, 2013, 09:22:54 am »
That middle one is great, I actually thougt it was a Game & Watch at first!
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Re: R4i/DS Thread
« Reply #12 on: March 05, 2013, 10:00:11 pm »
Thanks!

I thought the same thing after i did them up.
I'm gonna try some other color variations that will look more "game and watch" style, like the pics from the internet below...
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Re: R4i/DS Thread
« Reply #13 on: March 05, 2013, 10:40:59 pm »
You've made me want a DS Phat now!

Got rid of mine ages ago when I bought a DS Lite but I bet you can pick them up for next to nothing now.
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Re: R4i/DS Thread
« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2013, 12:05:57 am »
I want one too.
Probably in Red, Orange or White if possible.
Not even sure if they came in orange or white, have to research it...

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Re: R4i/DS Thread
« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2013, 02:39:52 pm »
Dunno if this is news to anyone but the dev behind the DS version of Minecraft is making a Portal game for DS. Early days yet but looks great:
http://smealum.net/
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Re: R4i/DS Thread
« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2013, 08:39:51 pm »
Wow, it looks pretty rad.
Can't wait to play it.

I haven't played any of the other Portal games, so this is pretty fresh to me.

On a side note, has anyone gotten the Famicom Disk System roms running on NesDS...?

Cant find a thing about it specifically online anywhere else...
For me, you can hear it upon startup, see some pixelated mess, then just black and then nothing.

Nice rewind / fast forward action with the L and R buttons with the NES games though.
Totally rad!
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Re: R4i/DS Thread
« Reply #17 on: March 26, 2013, 03:34:37 pm »
Partially thanks to this thread, I decided to pick up a DS Phat this weekend at the MGC. So now I'm in the market for an R4, but I'm a bit confused by the number of different versions. Eachgame has a couple of different cards up for sale on their scare buying page for the next 17 hours:

US$5.67 R4i-SDHC Upgrade WiFi Mini Package for 3DS/DSi LL/DSi/DS Lite/DS V1.4.5 - Points Shop Free Shipping

US$7.63 Unlimited Upgradable R4i SDHC Dual Core Smart Card for V4.5.0-10 3DS/V1.4.5 Dsi/Dsi LL/XL/DSL/DS + Micro SD 4GB

Rather than try to deciepher the chinglish marketing-speak in the product descriptions, can someone with experience with these things tell me what the real differnces are between these two models, which one is most recommended, or should I be looking for something else?
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Re: R4i/DS Thread
« Reply #18 on: March 26, 2013, 04:07:56 pm »
Can't see the items without having to log in first, but those prices are pretty damn good.
They must be trying to offload stock pretty quickly.

From my experience with both the R4i-3DS-SDHC and the R4i-Dual Core (white) versions, the Dual Core cards are MUCH faster and more reliable than the others.
I've also tried R4-3DS-Gold, didn't like that one as much either.

For a first timer, i'd go with the Dual Core for now.
It's a great card.

Like I mentioned earlier in the thread, I have most of the best emulators running, except the Turbografx-16 one (Nitrografx), and it runs Moonshell 2 pretty well (ver. 2.10 stable, the latest one i could find so far...), helps with the "iku"app for Ebook reading, but that's no problem.
So if you have any questions on getting setup, I can help.
[Edit: The limitations above are relevant to the "NEW" label dual core, wich is slightly inferior software-wise to the newer, "2013" labeled version. Mainly due to the "2013" one having a newer firmware and i'm assuming, a newer chipset, seeing as they use different FW. As far as i've experienced, everything runs fine on "2013" models.]

All the cards i've used have also had slight to major variations on how they need to be set up to run everything nice and smooth, but it's no biggy...

There is an alternative that I keep reading about that has me interested.
It's the SuperCard DSTwo, because they say it has a built-in GBA emulator and an improved SNES emu.
I'm not sure if it supports the latest DSi firmware or can run on 3DS, as it is an older card, plus they're around $40, wich is very pricey just to be able to play GBA without a slot 2 card...
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Re: R4i/DS Thread
« Reply #19 on: March 26, 2013, 07:36:53 pm »
Thanks for the quick reply Turkish, my inner cheapskate was leaning heavily toward the $5.67 one with the free shipping, but from what you said it looks like the dual core one is the better bargain, the higher price is likely actually due to the included 4GB microSD card.

As you can see from my sig, I've already got plenty of options for emulation, what I'm really interested in this is for homebrew. Can't wait to try out Minecraft!   8)
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