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[S7800] Should I get one? Or should I get the GPD G5A?
« on: March 03, 2014, 03:22:54 am »
Hi! If this is the wrong section, I apologize in advance. So, I'm new to Android handheld gaming as a whole and I'm torn between devices, both of these look really awesome and I'm having a heck of a time deciding which of the two I should get.  ;D  Now, while I'm weighting the pros and cons of both, I'm learning more towards the GPD G5A because of the price and how the size is just right for on the go gaming and, using Skype, watching videos and so on.  8)

My only concerns are the unfamiliarity of the hardware's reliability and the possibility of being held at customs indefinitely, costing me even more money. On the other hand, the S7800B look really awesome and is also reasonably priced, so yeah, kinda confused as to which route to go since I've never owned a Dingoo or other related console. What do you guys suggest? Thanks in advance.

Other concerns include the stories about the stock AC adapter having issues overheating, not full charging, then to also install apps from Google Play, etc.
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Re: [S7800] Should I get one? Or should I get the GPD G5A?
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2014, 09:49:15 am »
In my opinion the G5A is a solid device, as you probably saw the videos posted on the GPD forums, its light, hardware is the as the one in s7800b with the excepetion of the screen rez and quality. Battery life might be on the low side.

Hardware reliability, as with most china branded devices, this is hit or miss, that being said, the GPD device is built pretty well and if you do have an issue you can always have it replaced.

The jxd 7800b is not supported by Jxd anymore, but the community has plenty of tweaks, its got a good ips screen but at the end of the day its definitely not portable, The shield is a better alternative to the 7800B.

As for customs, im not in the US anymore, but I doubt they would hold your device, there is nothing illegal about buying electronics from china. You might have to pay a small amount of duty depending on the declared price. Another point is this is not a "knock off brand" its a legitimate gaming device, one of many android devices.   

 

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Re: [S7800] Should I get one? Or should I get the GPD G5A?
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2014, 10:00:24 am »
I don't know about the GPD but I believe that's the one skelton raves about.

I would not recommend the 7800, It could be a nice device but it has a lot of small yet annoying issues, not much seems to work 100%.

Battery life is ok, not great but not bad.
Screen is pretty good, first batch had a better screen they apparently subbed the LCD in the newest version but it's still decent enough.

touch screen is pretty much garbage, accuracy is terrible on it.

I could go on and on but overall I do not recommend the 7800.. If JXD was still supporting it and fixing issues it would be great, build quality and QC aside.

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Re: [S7800] Should I get one? Or should I get the GPD G5A?
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2014, 01:31:26 pm »
People have complained that the GPD G5A has a bad screen but the controls look pretty good.
You also have Skelton/Tincores modified firmware.

Screen put me off buying one.

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Re: [S7800] Should I get one? Or should I get the GPD G5A?
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2014, 02:26:33 pm »
Screen is not bad, simply it's not IPS. For me it's more than enough to play retro games. There will be a version with IPS soon anyway.

About what to buy, it all depends on which size you prefer. 7 inch devices are just too big for me. I generally prefer 5 inch (even less if possible). Other people prefer 7 inch because they use it as a tablet too. So basically depends on that. G5a doesn't have front camera, so the use of skype is quite limited xD.
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Re: [S7800] Should I get one? Or should I get the GPD G5A?
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2014, 02:32:10 pm »
In my opinion the G5A is a solid device, as you probably saw the videos posted on the GPD forums, its light, hardware is the as the one in s7800b with the excepetion of the screen rez and quality. Battery life might be on the low side.
Well, just to be clear here: it also has less RAM (1 GB instead of 2 GB of S7800b). And less system buttons (only Start and Select).
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Re: [S7800] Should I get one? Or should I get the GPD G5A?
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2014, 02:38:24 pm »
I own the S7800 but lets not kid ourselves here, the 2GBs of ram are totally wasted.  Dont think that a device with 1GB ram will perform slower, particularly on a low end android tablet like the ones in question.  It simply doesn't make any difference. My device under stress has never used more than about 600-700mb in one go, no matter what I try and do.
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stpat

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Re: [S7800] Should I get one? Or should I get the GPD G5A?
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2014, 03:50:45 pm »
I own both and I'm very happy with both.

I agree with Joe that the touchscreen accuracy on the S7800 is terrible, but given that I don't play any games using the touchscreen (I use Tincore keymapper for everything), it's a total non-issue for me. The screen itself is fantastic - bright, crisp and vivid...the best I've ever seen on a "cheap" chinese tablet. The repacked firmwares that are available (Tan's and Webclaw's) are really solid, so although JXD is not releasing updates, it's not an issue for me because there's really nothing in need of fixing from my point of view. For me, I don't find there are a lot of small annoying issues... All my complaints were addressed by the repacked firmwares... there's nothing that hinders my gaming. But as Joe says, the touchscreen response is bad, so playing touchscreen games would be frustrating (although I tried one of the Angry Birds games last night, and it played fine... so maybe the touchscreen crappiness mostly affects typing?)

The G5A is a great unit as well, and flashing Legacy on it makes it even better. The only complaint I really have is the quality of the screen... kinda dull, and terrible viewing angles, but if you hold it in the right place, all is good.

As skelton says, it really boils down to screen size and your definition of portable. The larger, brighter, higher-res screen of the S7800 is really nice, and makes a difference for some games (Android titles, more than emulators). But, the unit is larger, and less portable. On the other hand, the G5A is more portable, but I find the smaller screen a drawback on high-detail android games like Nova 3 and MC4.
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Re: [S7800] Should I get one? Or should I get the GPD G5A?
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2014, 03:55:30 pm »
I own both and I'm very happy with both.
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the_randomizer (OP)

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Re: [S7800] Should I get one? Or should I get the GPD G5A?
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2014, 04:00:48 pm »
In my opinion the G5A is a solid device, as you probably saw the videos posted on the GPD forums, its light, hardware is the as the one in s7800b with the excepetion of the screen rez and quality. Battery life might be on the low side.

Hardware reliability, as with most china branded devices, this is hit or miss, that being said, the GPD device is built pretty well and if you do have an issue you can always have it replaced.

The jxd 7800b is not supported by Jxd anymore, but the community has plenty of tweaks, its got a good ips screen but at the end of the day its definitely not portable, The shield is a better alternative to the 7800B.

As for customs, im not in the US anymore, but I doubt they would hold your device, there is nothing illegal about buying electronics from china. You might have to pay a small amount of duty depending on the declared price. Another point is this is not a "knock off brand" its a legitimate gaming device, one of many android devices.
I'll definitely keep that in mind, the smaller device would suit my needs better, I wasn't aware that of the JXD no longer being supported, the G5A seems like the better route to go. Thanks!

I don't know about the GPD but I believe that's the one skelton raves about.

I would not recommend the 7800, It could be a nice device but it has a lot of small yet annoying issues, not much seems to work 100%.

Battery life is ok, not great but not bad.
Screen is pretty good, first batch had a better screen they apparently subbed the LCD in the newest version but it's still decent enough.

touch screen is pretty much garbage, accuracy is terrible on it.

I could go on and on but overall I do not recommend the 7800.. If JXD was still supporting it and fixing issues it would be great, build quality and QC aside.
That's two for the GPD g5a, a lot of people on this community are backing it, which makes it all the more appealing, glad to know that this little device is getting more and more awesome!  So that would mean the touch screen on the G5A is far superior in accuracy than the S7800?

People have complained that the GPD G5A has a bad screen but the controls look pretty good.
You also have Skelton/Tincores modified firmware.

Screen put me off buying one.

I mean, how a screen is important, sure, but I need to find a middle ground of sorts this GPD seems to be perfect, retro gaming while being portable and having powerful enough hardware for emulating all the awesome old-school stuff!

Screen is not bad, simply it's not IPS. For me it's more than enough to play retro games. There will be a version with IPS soon anyway.

About what to buy, it all depends on which size you prefer. 7 inch devices are just too big for me. I generally prefer 5 inch (even less if possible). Other people prefer 7 inch because they use it as a tablet too. So basically depends on that. G5a doesn't have front camera, so the use of skype is quite limited xD.
Not a deal-breaker for me, TFT vs IPS, 7 inches simply seems way too bulky for my needs to be honest, so 5 inches would be plenty, not too big and not too small, I don't know of any other supported devices with smaller screens, the problem with even smaller would be the resolution suffering, making retro emulators like Super Nintendo suffer, or N64 and so on, so the G5A would be ideal in that situation  8)  I don't need to use Skype, I can always use a netbook or something

I own the S7800 but lets not kid ourselves here, the 2GBs of ram are totally wasted.  Dont think that a device with 1GB ram will perform slower, particularly on a low end android tablet like the ones in question.  It simply doesn't make any difference. My device under stress has never used more than about 600-700mb in one go, no matter what I try and do.
Didn't know that either, good to know, and thanks for the heads up!

I own both and I'm very happy with both.

I agree with Joe that the touchscreen accuracy on the S7800 is terrible, but given that I don't play any games using the touchscreen (I use Tincore keymapper for everything), it's a total non-issue for me. The screen itself is fantastic - bright, crisp and vivid...the best I've ever seen on a "cheap" chinese tablet. The repacked firmwares that are available (Tan's and Webclaw's) are really solid, so although JXD is not releasing updates, it's not an issue for me because there's really nothing in need of fixing from my point of view. For me, I don't find there are a lot of small annoying issues... All my complaints were addressed by the repacked firmwares... there's nothing that hinders my gaming. But as Joe says, the touchscreen response is bad, so playing touchscreen games would be frustrating (although I tried one of the Angry Birds games last night, and it played fine... so maybe the touchscreen crappiness mostly affects typing?)

The G5A is a great unit as well, and flashing Legacy on it makes it even better. The only complaint I really have is the quality of the screen... kinda dull, and terrible viewing angles, but if you hold it in the right place, all is good.

As skelton says, it really boils down to screen size and your definition of portable. The larger, brighter, higher-res screen of the S7800 is really nice, and makes a difference for some games (Android titles, more than emulators). But, the unit is larger, and less portable. On the other hand, the G5A is more portable, but I find the smaller screen a drawback on high-detail android games like Nova 3 and MC4.
A friend recommended the LegacyROM to install as firmware on the GPD G5A, would you also recommend that as well? I plan on mostly doing retro gaming (emulators), as well as casual browsing like Facebook, watching videos and so on. Does anyone know if Netflix runs on these Android devices or is that simply not possible since it uses Silverlight?  Sorry for the lengthy response, and thank you all for your feedback, I think I've got my heart set on the GPD for sure! It's cheap yet powerful for my needs on the go, and is it true that the battery indicator is wonky?  And what would be the best online store to get one from (the fastest/most reliable)?

Some other concerns involved WiFi, battery indicator, prematurely going kaput, etc. I know, these are probably sounding trivial, and I apologize for being such a noob ROFL XD
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Re: [S7800] Should I get one? Or should I get the GPD G5A?
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2014, 04:39:12 pm »
Netflix works fine on the JXD s5110b, s5300, s601 and s6600. So I assume it will work on the s7800 and GPD G5A too ;)

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Re: [S7800] Should I get one? Or should I get the GPD G5A?
« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2014, 04:42:18 pm »
Netflix works fine on the JXD s5110b, s5300, s601 and s6600. So I assume it will work on the s7800 and GPD G5A too ;)

Good to know, another point for this console! Is the wireless pretty stable on this as well?  ;D  I'm sorry for sounding such a noob for being new to the Android gaming scene as a whole and so on, I like to get others' feedback before taking the plunge and buying electronics 8)  I also assume that programs like RetroArch (Snes, NES, Genesis, PSX etc) also run quite well on the device?  I prefer those emulators since the accuracy is better than the stock/pre-installed apps.

Sorry for all the questions, I'm still doing all I can to learn everything there is to know about this before getting one, I'm weird that way lol.

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Re: [S7800] Should I get one? Or should I get the GPD G5A?
« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2014, 05:03:42 pm »
I don't know abou the GPD but the 7800's range is'nt very good, probably half of what I get on other devices.

Also (and this maybe just me) I can't seem to pull more then about 1.5MB /sec out of the wifi even when it's sitting inches from the AP.

I've tried tweaking the settings on my AP but to no effect.

that's fine for internet since my connection rarely goes over 2MB /sec anyway

but transfering files from my desktop is kinda slow.

the_randomizer (OP)

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Re: [S7800] Should I get one? Or should I get the GPD G5A?
« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2014, 05:09:05 pm »
I don't know abou the GPD but the 7800's range isn't very good, probably half of what I get on other devices.

Also (and this maybe just me) I can't seem to pull more then about 1.5MB /sec out of the wifi even when it's sitting inches from the AP.

I've tried tweaking the settings on my AP but to no effect.

that's fine for internet since my connection rarely goes over 2MB /sec anyway

but transferring files from my desktop is kinda slow.

Yeah, my wireless is 5 mbps tops, I don't expect miracles with college housing lol  ;D But, the router isn't too far from my room, it's about 10 feet from where I'm sitting.  I'm still kinda torn between devices, one has an IPS screen but a touchy touchscreen while the other has a TFT screen, but a somewhat more accurate touchscreen.  Ugh.

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Re: [S7800] Should I get one? Or should I get the GPD G5A?
« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2014, 05:16:27 pm »
well the screen is one of the few things I can actually say im happy with on the 78.
The first batch had a better screen, the newer units don't seem to have the same brilliance of color, I'd say it has a slight yellowish tint, It's not terribly noticeable unless you have a lot of white or if you put the two side by side.

I still like the screen though the IPS give's great viewing angle.

I heard recently that the cost's are as such that an IPS is only like an extra 6 dollars in mfg cost these days, I don't know if that's true but it's hard looking at TFT after IPS..
But then again TFT's are not created equal and i've seen some decent ones so I guess it just depends.

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Re: [S7800] Should I get one? Or should I get the GPD G5A?
« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2014, 05:25:49 pm »
well the screen is one of the few things I can actually say im happy with on the 78.
The first batch had a better screen, the newer units don't seem to have the same brilliance of color, I'd say it has a slight yellowish tint, It's not terribly noticeable unless you have a lot of white or if you put the two side by side.

I still like the screen though the IPS give's great viewing angle.

I heard recently that the cost's are as such that an IPS is only like an extra 6 dollars in mfg cost these days, I don't know if that's true but it's hard looking at TFT after IPS..
But then again TFT's are not created equal and i've seen some decent ones so I guess it just depends.

Now I'm really torn between the two devices  :-\ I just don't want buyer's remorse with whatever of the two I get. The hardware on the inside is pretty identical on both devices from the looks of it.

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Re: [S7800] Should I get one? Or should I get the GPD G5A?
« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2014, 05:44:21 pm »
well first thing you gotta ask your self is do you want 7 or 5 inch? If 7 is to large then the 7800 is'nt a consideration in the first place.

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Re: [S7800] Should I get one? Or should I get the GPD G5A?
« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2014, 05:50:19 pm »
well first thing you gotta ask your self is do you want 7 or 5 inch? If 7 is to large then the 7800 is'nt a consideration in the first place.

Right, for sure. Plus, the G5A is actually very reasonably priced and with a 16 GB micro SD card, I should be set  ;D  I think the grips on the 5" device look far more ergonomic and more comfortable to hold. The issue for the AC adapters has been resolved as well? What about the battery indicator? I heard that after 10 min. it drops to between 70 to 80%, hangs there for a few hours, then drops to 0 outta the blue.

Now to find out which fast and reliable online retailer to use...

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Re: [S7800] Should I get one? Or should I get the GPD G5A?
« Reply #18 on: March 03, 2014, 05:57:46 pm »
well first thing you gotta ask your self is do you want 7 or 5 inch? If 7 is to large then the 7800 is'nt a consideration in the first place.

Right, for sure. Plus, the G5A is actually very reasonably priced and with a 16 GB micro SD card, I should be set  ;D  I think the grips on the 5" device look far more ergonomic and more comfortable to hold. The issue for the AC adapters has been resolved as well? What about the battery indicator? I heard that after 10 min. it drops to between 70 to 80%, hangs there for a few hours, then drops to 0 outta the blue.

Now to find out which fast and reliable online retailer to use...

Whatever you do, I'd recommend a larger microSD... at least 32gb (I have a 64gb). 16GB will fill up with roms REALLY fast.

I ordered my g5a from geekbuying, I highly recommend them. They had a $10 off coupon, not sure whether it's still active or not (check their thread in the GPD devices section):

http://boards.dingoonity.org/android-devices/hello-from-geekbuying-special-coupons-for-dingoonity-users/msg95744/#msg95744
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Re: [S7800] Should I get one? Or should I get the GPD G5A?
« Reply #19 on: March 03, 2014, 06:04:35 pm »
well first thing you gotta ask your self is do you want 7 or 5 inch? If 7 is to large then the 7800 is'nt a consideration in the first place.

Right, for sure. Plus, the G5A is actually very reasonably priced and with a 16 GB micro SD card, I should be set  ;D  I think the grips on the 5" device look far more ergonomic and more comfortable to hold. The issue for the AC adapters has been resolved as well? What about the battery indicator? I heard that after 10 min. it drops to between 70 to 80%, hangs there for a few hours, then drops to 0 outta the blue.

Now to find out which fast and reliable online retailer to use...

Whatever you do, I'd recommend a larger microSD... at least 32gb (I have a 64gb). 16GB will fill up with roms REALLY fast.

I ordered my g5a from geekbuying, I highly recommend them. They had a $10 off coupon, not sure whether it's still active or not (check their thread in the GPD devices section).

I thought SDXC cards weren't recognized by these devices and where fixed by how they were formatted ( fat32 and not exFAT or whatever SDXC uses)...? Anyway, 32 GB should be plenty, I did see that coupon, gonna need to see if it's still active for sure.  How are the AC adapters? I remember seeing videos that stated they had soldering issues, overheated and made a weird humming noise.  What about the battery life indicator, isn't that kinda askew?  Thanks again for all your guys' help!
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