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Deen0X (OP)

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[REVIEW] Phablet/Console JXDS5800 (Quad-Core, 5")
« on: March 25, 2014, 10:29:10 am »
[REVIEW] JXDS5800 (Quad-Core, 5")


Note: In first place, apologize my rude english. I do my best for writing directly in english, avoiding automatic translators, but is possible i do some mistakes. I will be glad receiving any improvement or fix, if you consider necessary, but in general speaking i think the main content of the article is understandable (most of this article is technical information). Hope you don´t get problems on reading it.

NOTE This is a summarize version of the original article located on my blog.

Acknowledgments

To GeekBuyiung for send me a sample of JXDS5800 device to test it and write this review.

Usage of this article

Author give permission to use this review, part of this or by a link reference, to anybody wants to use it, with only one condition that you must keep the author of this article, and the original source, that is on my blog.

For any update for the content of this article, i suggest to visit the link avobe.

Package contents(Unboxing y full description of the package contents)

When the package is opened, we found the following elements thats, i understand, are part of any standard shippment for this product.


  • JXDS5800 device
  • Headphones
  • MicroUSB cable (for data and charging)
  • MicroUSB OTG cable
  • USB wall charger
  • EURO connector for charger
  • User guide
  • User reference
  • Warranty
  • JXD Sticker

Product information


According with the manufacturer, or searching info on web pages, we can found many sources of information about the device and sometimes these information may be not consistent (may be different from one web page to other), and this may cause some confusion for anybody that wants to get info about this product.

On this section i will post the info i get from the manufacturer (or is not possible, the web page that i consider more reliable), listing only the relevant points for a tech analysis of the product, and omit these points that don´t get any relevant info about the device (as many time we found on many pages, things such video capabilities, mail capabilities, etc, that really are software based features that we can install on the device, and not a real feature of the device itself)

  • Chipset: MTK6582, Quad-Core Cortex A7
  • Screen/Display: 5-inch IPS Bright LCD, Resolution: 960*540 pixels
  • Touch Panel 5 point Capacitive Screen (G+G )
  • Communications: 3G (WCDMA) Calling+2G (GSM) Calling
  • Network: Wi-Fi (802.11 b/g/n), built-in 3G (WCDMA)
  • RAM: 1GB DDR3
  • Flash: 8GB Flash, support external TF card up to 32GB
  • OS: Android 4.2
  • Buttons: Direction buttons, ABXY, Dual LR, Dual analog joysticks, select, start, Vol+/-, Reset, POWER, Home, Back, Menu and Mode switch button
  • G-Sensor: 3 Axis Gravity Sensor
  • Bluetooth: Support
  • GPS: Support
  • Camera: 0.3MP Front Camera, 5.0MP Rear Camera
  • Battery: Built-in 3000mAh replaceable and rechargeable lithium-ion battery, Charge with 5V 2A DC adaptor or USB charging (slow)
  • Sound device: Speaker, phone receiver and MIC
  • I/O USB2.0 High Speed
  • OTG: Connet Keyboard, mouse, Ethernet, U disk and Hard disk
  • 3.5mm Stereo earphone mini jack
  • Size: Length: 198mm Width: 156mm Height: 88mm

Info from the device itself (Android info)

In first place, to get a reliable source of info about the system, i take some screenshots from the same device showing android system info (thata usually is insufficient), and from another software that can give us more detailed information about the system, and with this info we can get a general idea about the capabilities of the device.







Default programs on the device

Antutu Benchmark X System Info









Benchmarks


For people that don´t know about these programs, i can tell (in short words) that a benchmark is a program or normalized test that runs on a device. These tests give points (usually, averaging many results) the performance of a device, in the way that the final total point may be useful to compare, in a simple and direct way, the general performance between many devices.

There are so many benchmarks on Google Play Store, but in my test usually i use the most populars.

For the running of these benchmarks, the initial conditions of the device are:

  • CPU Frequency: 1.3 GHz
  • CPU Governor: Hotplug *
  • Screen Resolution: 540x960 pixels
* most of MTK devices come with a non optimal performance governor. In most cases, this governor set the CPU to the specified speed, but enable only one core (disabling others). For this reason, i use this governor (that enable all the cores) but setting minimum and maximum cpu speed to the same value (in this case, to 1.3GHz), to emulate something similar to Governor performance.

Antutu Benchmark X Edition (Google Play version)

This is a version special anti-fraud edition from this popular benchmark.

Many manufacturer do some tricks to bring best results when running Antutu Benchmark, most of these tricks is temporal overclocking the CPU/GPU, when the SoC detect the benchmark is running. For this reason, this special edition of Antutu Benchmark was created, to avoiding these kind of cheats/tricks from manufacturers, offering a real result for their tests.

Note: running this test, the device hangs on 87% of the benchmark.


Forcing to stop and load the test, appear the following results:



Summarizing points:

  • RAM Operation: 687
  • RAM Speed: 907
  • CPU integer: 1726
  • CPU float-point: 1037
  • 2D graphics: [540x960] 977
  • 3D graphics: [540x960] 4816
  • Storage I/O: 801
  • Database I/O: 620
  • CPU frequency: 1300 MHz (x4)
  • Multitask: 2764
  • Total: 15388
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Pros, cons and improvements.


As in every product, there are pros and cons points that are good to mention in a clear way. These points will help to us to decide if the device features are enough for what the user are looking for in a device of this kind.

Pros are based on features that highlight, comparing the device with another similars, or these features improve the experience of the user.

In the another hand, the cons are these points that worse the experience, or the feature is not enough for fulfill what we expect from the device.

Finally, the improvements pints are some features or specs that i think must be improved in a supposed new version of the device, and will generate a better experience in my opinion.

Pros

  • L2 and R2 buttons included in the layout of the device
  • IPS Screen
  • Bluetooth
  • Back camera enough for photos and other usages (Scanning, etc)
  • System running smooth.
  • Bluetooth have good operation range
  • System boots so quick, between 8 and 15 seconds.
  • There is no need of doing swap for microSD. The system settings have an option to select the destination disc for the system.
  • All gaming buttons are included on the Keymapper.

Cons

  • The critical issue is the Overlapping button. This limit so much to this device, basically with emulators (Android games can be played without problems in general speaking)
  • Device size, may become a problem for cusomers that want to use this device as normal phone.
  • L1 & L2 and R1 & R2 are so close, and is so easy to accidentally press wrong buttons.
  • Monoaural speaker. Really is not a big problem, but with two spaces for speakers, most users will expect a stereo front sound.
  • Wifi antenna, after doing sone testing, i conclude that the wifi antena range is so weak.

Improvements

  • Redesign of L1, L2, R1 and R2 buttons.
  • Add a cover case for transportation and protect with this the sticks of the device
  • reduce some the lenght of the device, for become to a more practical device to use as phone.
  • Of course, fix any issue with overlapping buttons.
  • Add CIFS support to the firmware.
  • Add HDMI port.

Conclusion


This is an evolved 5" JXD device, and must the base for future devices of this size.

Adding L2 and R2 (to 5" device) is something that customers was asking for a while to JXD.

For customers that are looking for a good 5" alternative, this may be one for considering, but take note, point to the new revision of this device (if exist), to avoiding the overlapping problems.

Thanks to their 60Hz screen refresh rate, many emulated games run smoothly and looks so good, in special PSP games.

I have a mix of good and bad taste of this device. Is a clear example that what may be a good 5" alternative to Android gaming console, but there are some things that relegate this to "just another try".

If JXD fix all the problems of this device, then will be a very intersting android gaming console (i doubt that this device is a good alternative for normal phone usage)

If you´re interested on this device, most probably when releasing this review JXD release their new fixed device (and if i can get one of them, i will write about it too)
« Last Edit: March 25, 2014, 10:41:42 am by Deen0X »

ddj

Re: [REVIEW] Phablet/Console JXDS5800 (Quad-Core, 5")
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2014, 10:42:05 am »
[REVIEW] JXDS5800 (Quad-Core, 5")

Nice review Deen0X! ;) Apart from the buttons problem I think another issue with this device is that its performance with emulators are not that good (especially if compared to other similar devices like the Much i5). PSP and Dreamcast are quite slow but I also tested some N64 games and I got a very bad framerate even on Super Mario 64...
« Last Edit: March 25, 2014, 10:46:16 am by ddj »

Deen0X (OP)

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Re: [REVIEW] Phablet/Console JXDS5800 (Quad-Core, 5")
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2014, 10:46:15 am »
performance, i feel is so similar, but the 60Hz screen of this device is a very good point, comparing with Much 64Hz screen.

only with this, S5800 can run better than Much for now, unless you use frameskip.

check this:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVV9WU410CQ" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVV9WU410CQ</a>

for N64, i did not capture any test, but i will grab some these days.

Dreamcast is running in the same way as Much. I will capture more videos these days too.

Zalu2!

hippy dave

Re: [REVIEW] Phablet/Console JXDS5800 (Quad-Core, 5&quot;)
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2014, 02:44:33 pm »
Thanks for the review! Does it have a vibrator and/or a notification light?

ethaniel

Re: [REVIEW] Phablet/Console JXDS5800 (Quad-Core, 5&quot;)
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2014, 03:20:24 pm »
Thanks for the review! Does it have a vibrator and/or a notification light?

Yes for the vibration, but it haven't got notification led.

hippy dave

Re: [REVIEW] Phablet/Console JXDS5800 (Quad-Core, 5")
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2014, 03:54:38 pm »
Thanks!

Deen0X (OP)

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Re: [REVIEW] Phablet/Console JXDS5800 (Quad-Core, 5")
« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2014, 11:05:29 pm »
Hi!

i uploaded some vids for this device.

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgUAdlDcSUU" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgUAdlDcSUU</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=souc5tPdZUU" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=souc5tPdZUU</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hd5g33qnxFE" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hd5g33qnxFE</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDzFN45FWzM" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDzFN45FWzM</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSHsXK_-L6Y" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSHsXK_-L6Y</a>

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFa8bSRNkFA" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFa8bSRNkFA</a>

Zalu2!

Swisse

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Re: [REVIEW] Phablet/Console JXDS5800 (Quad-Core, 5")
« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2014, 12:40:15 am »
N64 FPS looks pretty slow on Conkers Bad Fur Day, is this because the hardware is lacking or could it be rectified in the future through software updates and emulator tweaks? I might hold out on buying one of these altogether after all and go with the Much G2 for a phone upgrade and just get GPD G5A for N64/PS emulation...

Any chance someone can test out PS1 Crash Bandicoot Warped on this thing? I'm guessing it can emulate PS1 better than N64.

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Re: [REVIEW] Phablet/Console JXDS5800 (Quad-Core, 5")
« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2014, 12:45:10 am »
Conker´s Bad Fur Day is one of the most difficult game to play in any device, including NVidia Shield

in fact, i consider is running very well in this device, better than other devices i tested.

and for PS1, usually i test only Tekken 3, because all other games run well, including Crash Bandicoot games.

Any decent android can emulate PS1 without major problems. N64 is most difficutl to emulate than PS1 in general speaking.

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Re: [REVIEW] Phablet/Console JXDS5800 (Quad-Core, 5")
« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2014, 12:54:55 am »
That's as much as I needed to know, thanks. Guess I'll stick it out and get one after all. It's about $40 cheaper than the Much G2 anyway, with better controls (assuming overlapping buttons issue fixed).

foleyjo

Re: [REVIEW] Phablet/Console JXDS5800 (Quad-Core, 5")
« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2014, 06:54:29 am »
What cpu setting did you use on god of war?
I find you have to use cpu at 80 in the ppsspp settings to get a decent speed on the s5110b so maybe it will play full speed on the s5800 with that setting.

Are your vids all using no frameskip?

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Re: [REVIEW] Phablet/Console JXDS5800 (Quad-Core, 5")
« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2014, 01:52:55 pm »
cpu in this device MUST be hotplug, because all other settings will only enalbe 1 core working, and disable others.

my settings is
min cpu speed=1.04 GHz
max cpu speed = 1.3 GHz
governor=hotplug
planner = cfq

in the emulator, depends on the game the setting you need. for GOW
Mode: Non buffered rendering
frameskipping: off
stretch to display
mipmapping
hardware transform
software skinning
vertex cache
lazy texture caching
retain changed textures
low quality splines and beizer curves
texture filterning: Linear on FWM
sidable alpha test
enable alpha mask
texture coord speedback
developer tools - Enable debug logging (disable this)
Fast memory
multithreaded
i/o on thread
change emulated psp cpu clock: This depends on the game. for this game, i move to any value over 300

this is in as a general speaking what i use for running these games in this device. may be sometime i change some parameters for get better results.

foleyjo

Re: [REVIEW] Phablet/Console JXDS5800 (Quad-Core, 5")
« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2014, 03:39:42 pm »
Sorry it was the PSP CPU Clock I was refering too.
To get better speed on demanding games it is sometimes recommended to use a low cpu clock. Between 60 and 80 has given me good  speed on games like GOW.
Makes it much more playable.
There was a thread on the ppsspp forums that discussed doing this.

foleyjo

Re: [REVIEW] Phablet/Console JXDS5800 (Quad-Core, 5")
« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2014, 10:42:26 am »
Thanks for your review and videos Deen0x. It helped me make my mind up and I've decided to get one after all.
Be good to get rid of my little old phone .

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Re: [REVIEW] Phablet/Console JXDS5800 (Quad-Core, 5")
« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2014, 10:43:27 am »
you´re welcome!

 

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