Author Topic: RS-97 Custom Firmware v1.2 Emulator Guide (Stable, Unstable, Not Working)  (Read 33315 times)

Princebatman (OP)

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Hello everyone.  As there are so many questions with the new CFW update and the emulators, it's better to have a separate topic.  I can update this first post as more information becomes available.  I've put together what has been said in the main topic with some of my testing.  Please give feedback on your experience with the emulators.  This is an initial list with a fairly quick amount of testing.  Much thanks to @Steward @jutley and @tonyjih for all of the work and continued work on this project!



WORKING WELL AND STABLE (Out of the box, Smooth, Buttons Configured Correctly, Slight Issues) [Some of these emulators will need to be downloaded outside of the release for now, until the next update] {These updated emulators can be found here in the beta emulator section: http://bit.ly/2HtE77d}:


Atari 2600 - Works well

Atari 7800 (Pro System) - Works well (Button mapping is wrong, but can be changed and saved) (fps is on but can be turned off and saved)

Atari Lynx (Handy) - Updated - You can find this on Steward's Github or wait for the next release.  It's working much smoother and the sound is a little better. Roms need to be unzipped. I'm not going to say completely stable, but very playable. One problem is the buttons are mapped to A and B.  You can at least get the jump button to B by swapping controls in the config of the emulater.  Your A is going to be attack though, instead of Y.  It's small, but hopefully Steward can change that point.

Atari 800 (Atari) - Working well (Note that the emulator's name in the icon is 5200, but can't get that running.  There is a load 800 rom option in the menu.  The emulator's default system is set on 800, Need the bios or os in the .atari/roms folder, .atr rom format, I believe button mapping is B-fire 1, Y-fire 2, A-start, X-set or reset?)

Amstrad CPC (CAP32) - Working well (Put roms anywhere in roms folder and loads directory. no bios. Need to call keyboard at times but game controls and dpad are mapped, to get to menu - first press select then quickly press start)

Neo Geo Pocket and Color (Race OD) -  Works pretty well out of the box (Buttons mapped correctly, Screen is small but has a nice border, fullscreen will lag and it's not playable)

Gameboy/Gameboy Color (Oh Boy) - Works well and 1st Choice(Great scaling options, buttons are mapped correctly)

SMS (Picodrive) - Works well (Buttons are mapped incorrectly, this can be changed in the settings [player 1, A=A, B=X, C=B], but you will need patience as it's super laggy and skips 1 row, once changed hit save global config and the settings will stay)

NES (FCEUX) - Works well (Buttons mapped correctly, Video scaling is broken only aspect for now [This has been fixed in an update, you can get it now or wait for the next release :)])

GBA (ReGBA) - Works well and 1st Choice (Buttons are mapped correctly, a lot of settings options) Tonyjih has an update for this emulator that makes it even better!

SNES (PocketSnes) - After testing, overall working alright.  You won't be playing demanding games at 60/60, but the frame rate is very playable for a good chunk of games.  Enjoying snes on this handheld is definitely possible.  I'm not going to say this is completely stable.  If I had to guess, it'll be playing 60-70 percent of games well.  Tonyjih did a good job with the update for this emulator, putting it into the 1st choice position.  It's the best we have right now and hopefully can be improved further.

PC Engine (Temper)- Works well (Buttons mapped correctly,need to unzip roms to .pce, zip doesn't run, will get slow down when a lot is on the screen or big boss battles i.e.- air zonk)

PC Engine CD (Temper)- Works well (Buttons mapped correctly, need to run the .cue file or it will crash,  .bin worked but .iso didn't for me, need bios in .temper/syscards folder)

Genesis (Picodrive) - Works well (Button mapping can be changed in the options of most games, all games are different with how they assign jump, attack, special) [TonyJih has an update for this emulator that makes it better!)

Sega CD (Picodrive) - Need bios in .picodrive folder. TonyJih has an update for this, users reported it running full speed and well!

Neo Geo (GNGEO) - Works well (All games reported working brilliantly.  Zip format)

ZX Spectrum (Speccy) - Works well (Unfortunately the up button is mapped to jump, it would be great to have it mapped to B)

FBA Arcade(FBA GCW0) - Finalburn Alpha (GCW0) is a fantastic emulator and the star of the show.  You can ignore the others at this point. FBA(GCW0) runs NeoGeo, CPS1/2, and many other arcade roms perfectly.  [Fba got an update making things a little more improved]

Need fba 0.2.97.35 Romset and in .zip format, CPS1, CPS2, and or Neo Geo romset also have been said to work.  A word of warning.  The majority of the games will work, here is a list as well: http://boards.dingoonity.org/ingenic-jz4760-devices/rs-97-custom-firmware-v1-2-emulator-guide-(stable-unstable-not-working)/?action=dlattach;attach=6480

This is info and how to get it going from user Smakx:

FBA requires a little bit of simple setup, here are some tips:

1. Hit start from the fba menu and select rom paths. Pick an empty rom path slot and a file browser pops up, browse to where your arcade roms are and hit the start button to set the path to the roms. I have my NeoGeo roms in a separate folder, so I set up a second path to those.

2. Hit start from the fba menu and select filter options, set this to "Available Only" so that your game list only shows the roms that you have and isn't 20 miles long. You can advance through your game list a page at a time with the shoulder buttons.

3. Some games that had vertical screens will start vertically on your device (sideways). This can be great for games like pacman and frogger that don't use any buttons - the dpad magically adjusts to the sideways screen position. Alternately after selecting a game, in the pre-launch menu there is an option to rotate these games so that they run normally - the system retains this setting per game.

4. To exit back to the fba menu from within a game, hold both shoulders and hit start.

5. When testing roms, a bad or incompatible rom will sometimes cause crashes back to the system menu with the system locked up. If this happens you can reset the system with a toothpick, paperclip, pin, etc through a small hole in the lower right bottom of the system. This is easier than removing the battery. Once a list of compatible roms has been established this should cease to be an issue.

As stated earlier I plan to upload a list of arcade games verified working with fba(gcw0) sometime this weekend. By default you can assume all Neo Geo and Capcom CPS 1 & 2 games to be working. Hope some of this info is helpful to someone.

Thanks again to everyone involved in the development of these software packages and the support of this device and the surrounding "scene", you guys are awesome.


UNSTABLE, Experimental, and/or 2nd Choice: (Running Slow, Sound Issues, Stuttering, Challenging/Problemed Setup, Ect.)


Atari 5200  - blue screened with .a52 files, put the bios in the roms folder, changed the system to 5200, still nothing.

Atari ST (dcastaway) - After testing about 10 games, I'd say this is very hit or miss.  60% of the games had stuttering, didn't load, the sound will always be choppy and slow at the start however it could recover when the game starts. It's cool to get it going, but I can't call this stable just yet.  If we can list of running games, maybe.  The setup can be challenging if you don't know Atari ST (mouse and the keyboard sometimes glitches around).  The button mapping is not correct.  Example games tested: Super Stario Land, Out Run, Addams Family, The Great Giana Sisters (no boot), Midnight Resistance, Rick Dangerous,  Video kid (played ok, some screen tearing), Xenon 2 (cool but not full frame rate in game)...

Wonderboy Swan (Oswan) - Slow and Choppy

Gameboy/Gameboy Color (GameBatte) - Runs well but buttons are mapped incorrectly/can't change, not a lot of settings options

SMS (SMS emulator) - 120 fps and not working...

GBA (gpSP) - Runs well but buttons are mapped incorrectly/can't change, not a lot of settings options.  Compatibility and/or performance may be better depending on game.  At any rate, you will need to sacrifice button mapping until updated.  If that's ok, give it a go!

SNES (Snes9x4d) - This moved to 2nd place. It works pretty well.  Problems arise when you change config, exit and reenter messes up scaling, seems too fast at times.

Collecovision (ColEm) - Working Well to play games.  Can't access mnt to get to games on internal/external. Button mapping isn't set up to run games from the go.  It would be better if the number 1 and 2 be mapped to L and R so you can run a game out of the box

Sega 32x (Picodrive) - Too slow and laggy to even start.

MSX (OPENMSX) - Key Remapping and Rom Selector issues, if roms are not in correct place, you will be stuck on a blue screen, need to reset.

Intellivision (jzIntv) - Crashing back to rom menu when you load a rom.  Any feedback?

C64 (Vice) - copy roms into the C64 folder, select autostart image, find the rom in C64 folder then it will autostart rom. Currently testing.

Amiga (UAE4ALL) - Got a few games running pretty well, tricky setup and controller config, some games locked and i needed a reset.  With effort you should be able to run this.  Not an out of the box emulator.

PSX (PCSX4ALL every version) - Slow and dragging, some less demanding games run pretty well.  2d games/platformers are said to be playing nicely.

Dos (Dosbox) - Little information on this emulator at the moment.  Reported that can't change between discs or the location of them.  Needs more feedback and testing.

« Last Edit: March 25, 2018, 03:19:50 pm by Princebatman »

TabascoBoi

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Nice list. It seems ReGBA can't launch Pokemon Emerald or Fire red. You can patch the save size of the rom but i tried this and this leads to save game corruption after a few saves. Gpsp can launch those games. However performance of gpsp is inferior to ReGBA.

Second post of https://boards.dingoonity.org/gcw-zero-emulation/regarding-regba-playing-some-roms/ leads to http://wiki.gbatemp.net/wiki/TempGBA_Compatibility which shows the Pokemon games should be working.

Anyone got any ideas?

marianovl123

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Hi everybody.

Could anyone explain me how to solve this problems ??

- In Amiga 500 emu, the roms that i've test have an initial screen with cheats. But I couldn't get use up/down keys to make game starts. Couldn't navigate through cheats menu.

- In Amstrad CPC emulator, when I'm playing a game I couldn't return to menu for loading another game or exit to gp2xmenu. How could I get this ??

Thx in advance.

Regards.

Jutleys

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Nice guide i have added it to my website will update it as you update it to help others have put your dingoonity name there  to say thanks.

Princebatman (OP)

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Nice guide i have added it to my website will update it as you update it to help others have put your dingoonity name there  to say thanks.

Thanks, it's a work in progress.  I'm hoping to get it accurate and make as many changes as possible.  This can help Steward isolate and fix problems too. 

Currently, working on the atari 5200.  Seems like the system is set to 800.  So i've gotten 800 to run.  I think the 5200 needs bios and a system change.  We'll see.



Princebatman (OP)

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I have tested CPC amstrad works perfect i remeber games like sabrewolf brings back the old memory.

Awesome I will add it to the list.  Could you give me the emulator name and any details like bios, positive/negative/ect.

I just tested 800 and it's going into the stable list too... Working well.  Can't get 5200 going at all, messed with it a good bit too... hmmm.
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Jutleys

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CAP32- Amstrad CPC Emulator

Working great put roms anywhere in roms folder start the emulator and loads the roms directory no need for bios.

Emulator runs fine your need to call the keyboard to select but in game controls work on the dpad are mapped.

Jutleys

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I have tested CPC amstrad works perfect i remeber games like sabrewolf brings back the old memory.

Awesome I will add it to the list.  Could you give me the emulator name and any details like bios, positive/negative/ect.

I just tested 800 and it's going into the stable list too... Working well.  Can't get 5200 going at all, messed with it a good bit too... hmmm.

Atari 800 i get you need to get a real os? any ideas.

Princebatman (OP)

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I have tested CPC amstrad works perfect i remeber games like sabrewolf brings back the old memory.

Awesome I will add it to the list.  Could you give me the emulator name and any details like bios, positive/negative/ect.

I just tested 800 and it's going into the stable list too... Working well.  Can't get 5200 going at all, messed with it a good bit too... hmmm.

Atari 800 i get you need to get a real os? any ideas.

I'd say to put them all in the roms folder:
atariosa.rom
atariosb.rom
atarixl.rom
5200.rom
ataribas.rom

I believe the 800 is atarixl.rom

Princebatman (OP)

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Just added Intellivision to the list of not working.  Anyone had success with jzIntv emulator?

jaZz_KCS

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Although gpSP seems to miss alot of options as button mapping and some of the buttons are wrongly mapped atm, the performance seems to be slightly better than reGBA at the moment, and the compatibility seems higher as well. I have been able to launch games that ppl have reported not working on reGBA such as Pokemon, etc...


PS: The updated and corrected scalers for FCEUX work great :) get them at Steward's binary repository at github if you wanna fix your version of FCEUX

PPS: PCFX4ALL seems to work good enough in terms of perf for non heavy games such as Alundra, or even FFVII, expect drunken music though.

Jutleys

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Neo Geo (GNGEO) - Works well (Personally haven't tested, feedback from the group)

Works briliantly here definetly feels fullspeed and smoothe all games working .zip format

jaZz_KCS

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Neat. Yeah, let's incorporate into the list the compatibility of the emulators (what rom extension they are all compatible with and whether they allow for zipped roms or not)

PS: possible add for SNES9x4d --> "Currently, oddly enough, framerate seems to be linked to sound frequency rate chosen (as in: chosen frequency of 22050Hz results in 22fps gameplay)" Potentially the better emulator due to more recent development."
« Last Edit: March 16, 2018, 02:04:36 pm by jaZz_KCS »

Jutleys

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Neat. Yeah, let's incorporate into the list the compatibility of the emulators (what rom extension they are all compatible with and whether they allow for zipped roms or not)

PS: possible add for SNES9x4d --> "Currently, oddly enough, framerate seems to be linked to sound frequency rate chosen (as in: chosen frequency of 22050Hz results in 22fps gameplay)" Potentially the better emulator due to more recent development."

Change the framskip to 60/1 then set your sound to anything framerate will stay at 60fps.

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C64 (Vice) - Couldnt figure out how to load a rom.  Will update when more feedback is given.

I had it working by coping roms into the C64 folder select autostart image find the rom in C64 folder then will autostart rom.

Princebatman (OP)

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Neat. Yeah, let's incorporate into the list the compatibility of the emulators (what rom extension they are all compatible with and whether they allow for zipped roms or not)

PS: possible add for SNES9x4d --> "Currently, oddly enough, framerate seems to be linked to sound frequency rate chosen (as in: chosen frequency of 22050Hz results in 22fps gameplay)" Potentially the better emulator due to more recent development."

Change the framskip to 60/1 then set your sound to anything framerate will stay at 60fps.

How is the emulator performing under this change?  I remember NES saying it was 60, but didn't perform well in version 1. Steward worked his magic to fix that up.

Princebatman (OP)

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C64 (Vice) - Couldnt figure out how to load a rom.  Will update when more feedback is given.

I had it working by coping roms into the C64 folder select autostart image find the rom in C64 folder then will autostart rom.

Thanks!  Looking forward to testing Knight n Grail, hands down the best 64 game for the system.

Princebatman (OP)

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@jaZz_KCS and @jutley Thanks for the info!  The rom file info would be nice to have.  I was also thinking button combo to get to menu info.

Steward did mention that having a universal button combo for all emulators to get to menu was a good idea, but he has to put it lower on the priority list.


 

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