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Other Portable Consoles => Ingenic JZ47xx Devices => Retro Game 350/RG-350 => Topic started by: slaanesh on July 03, 2019, 05:59:58 am

Title: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: slaanesh on July 03, 2019, 05:59:58 am
With the veritable flood of jz4760 based handhelds, I'm keenly waiting for the RG-350.

Despite having a GCW-Zero for years already, I think the RG-350 will be a significant upgrade on what is currently available.

I know there is a discussion on Discord, but I thought it would be worth having a thread for this device here as well - despite it's currently unreleased status.

I wonder what the ETA is?
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: jamespoo1 on July 03, 2019, 06:34:39 am
any link to it or info
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: bopbopbop on July 03, 2019, 12:35:12 pm
Specs are the jz4770 which the GCW zero had, 512 of ram, and under $100. I think it's also got twin sticks. The official word is "SOON", which I believe is inferred as before the end of the year?

There's coverage of the device, and exciting pictures of Tonyjih's dinners*, on the discord.

Are there baidu discussions going on about it as well, does anyone know?

*not a metaphor
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: kiwoore on July 03, 2019, 01:25:35 pm
Some information from Discord:

SPECS
- jz4770 CPU @1Ghz
- 512MB DDR2 RAM
- 3.5 inch IPS screen at 320x240 resolution, 4:3 aspect ratio, 60hz refresh rate with vsync, so no tearing (suck it, Bittboy!)
- Battery capacity undecided, but no smaller than 2200mah

INPUTS
- Full DualShock button layout, with L2+R2 and dual analogs with L3+R3
- Analogs will be sticks, not slide pads, apparently similar to the Nintendo Switch
- Shoulder buttons are arranged like on the New 3DS, horizontally
- Volume through +/- buttons instead of a wheel

CONNECTIVITY
- USB Type-C connection
- Mini-HDMI video output
- Headphone jack (yes, it's important!)

FORM FACTOR
- Horizontal shape, size seems to be similar to the GCW 0
- Low battery LED indicator (power LED will blink)
- LCD will have a glass cover/lens

MISC
- Price expected to be under $100
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: pcercuei on July 03, 2019, 03:01:44 pm
Sounds tasty.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: eltehero on July 03, 2019, 06:46:03 pm
Sounds tasty.

Does that mean you will port official opendingux to the device like GCW Zero :)?
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: Great Crippler on July 03, 2019, 06:52:07 pm
Sounds tasty.

Does that mean you will port official opendingux to the device like GCW Zero?

Probably redundant because Tony was working on the OS. Though I certainly don't mind competition.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: eltehero on July 03, 2019, 07:11:55 pm
Sounds tasty.

Does that mean you will port official opendingux to the device like GCW Zero?

Probably redundant because Tony was working on the OS. Though I certainly don't mind competition.

I hope pcercuei does as it will mean the gcw zero emus and homebrew can be ported and updated very easily by dingoo devs and it will be nice for users to have their choice of OS
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: tonyjih on July 05, 2019, 08:43:16 am
it's already using a modified version of opendingux, can use GCW0's opk directly ;)
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: pcercuei on July 05, 2019, 03:15:18 pm
Does it have WiFi / Bluetooth?
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: ker on July 06, 2019, 04:25:24 am
Specs are the jz4770 which the GCW zero had, 512 of ram, and under $100. I think it's also got twin sticks. The official word is "SOON", which I believe is inferred as before the end of the year?

There's coverage of the device, and exciting pictures of Tonyjih's dinners*, on the discord.

Are there baidu discussions going on about it as well, does anyone know?

*not a metaphor
Where are that pics?

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Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: tonyjih on July 06, 2019, 07:35:26 am
No :o

Does it have WiFi / Bluetooth?
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: DieterLaser on July 06, 2019, 03:34:03 pm
just need a pic of the whole device and a release date real quick ;)
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: davidgilmour on July 08, 2019, 11:30:21 pm
When?
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: slaanesh on July 09, 2019, 01:50:33 am
it's already using a modified version of opendingux, can use GCW0's opk directly ;)

This is such awesome news.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: slaanesh on July 09, 2019, 01:53:49 am

I'd pay more for a "deluxe version" with souped up components!

Better hardware for the controller, screen, battery, etc!
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: lazanti on July 09, 2019, 07:42:40 pm
December seems so far away :(
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: eltehero on July 09, 2019, 08:26:45 pm
it's already using a modified version of opendingux, can use GCW0's opk directly ;)

This is such awesome news.

One of the main emu's on the device will have to be your ports of gcw zero Xmame and mame4all. Hope you can further develop and update on rg-350.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: lazanti on July 17, 2019, 12:11:51 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/2pWvOap.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/A9ThoeA.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/pEZRMn7.jpg)

I can't wait for December :)
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: Surkow on July 17, 2019, 02:42:46 pm
Interesting design. But, no removable battery? And the bezel mockup is ripped straight from the GCW Zero. The start and select descriptions are too close to the buttons themselves.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: pcercuei on July 17, 2019, 03:27:36 pm
Interesting design. But, no removable battery? And the bezel mockup is ripped straight from the GCW Zero. The start and select descriptions are too close to the buttons themselves.
Maybe they should be put on top?

And agreed about the bezel, I immediately thought about the GCW Zero when I saw it  :D

It looks really sexy to me. Especially the red one. But for a handheld designed for old-school games, that D-pad looks misplaced :(
It'll be fine for PSX though.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: lazanti on July 17, 2019, 05:03:25 pm
More pictures :)

(https://i.imgur.com/oLYlUfJ.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/YcaPija.jpg)
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: pcercuei on July 17, 2019, 05:48:02 pm
What's your experience so far? Are the buttons responsive and comfortable?
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: TurtleBox on July 17, 2019, 06:18:20 pm
Will this have two player features through usb perhaps?
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: SkyingHigh on July 17, 2019, 08:13:19 pm
This looks promising, any estimated release date?
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: ker on July 18, 2019, 07:19:53 am


It looks really sexy to me. Especially the red one. But for a handheld designed for old-school games, that D-pad looks misplaced :(
It'll be fine for PSX though.

+1

I prefer a "classic" dpad position. It's more confortable imho

The device looks really nice!

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Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: exorio on July 18, 2019, 09:29:11 am
Look sweet.

But the dual joystick and L2R2 buttons wouldn't be necessary as PS1 games are rather hit and miss on this chip?

Are the joysticks clickable (L3R3)? Would be very useful for native game ports such as quake and build engine games though.

And the size is a tad bigger than pocketgo?
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: ADY on July 18, 2019, 02:41:51 pm
Oof, that D-Pad placement... wouldn't most people be getting this primarily for 2D games? Those are by in large the vast majority of games this thing can play, why the Xbox layout for the few 3D games?

Geez, I'm afraid I won't be getting this one, unfortunately. Playing SNES, GBA, NES, GB/C, PC Engine and Genesis with my thumb shoved down on the left side is just too uncomfortable, I won't be able to enjoy the games. What a disappointment.

I hope they eventually make a revision for us 8/16bit era fans.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: ker on July 18, 2019, 04:37:31 pm
I do not know what to do ... If they really launch a review with the dpad repositioned, I would buy it for sure.

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Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: lazanti on July 18, 2019, 05:16:16 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-ALlfx54sQ

My all time favorite game is finally running at fullspeed 8) Btw N64 emulation :o
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: davidgilmour on July 20, 2019, 10:58:03 pm
They should switch the analogue pad and the d-pad!
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: Nikojiro on July 21, 2019, 12:29:04 am
Yes, I also think the left stick position should be swapped with the dpad.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: vermillion on July 27, 2019, 10:00:59 am
Has anyone heard about a rumoured RG-351 JZ4770 portrait version, i saw it mentioned in a youtube comment. The comment stated it is planed for release sometime after the RG-350 release.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: ace9094 on July 27, 2019, 10:04:00 pm
OK time to put the GCW Zero on ebay :)
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: eltehero on July 27, 2019, 11:14:45 pm
OK time to put the GCW Zero on ebay :)

Keep it, otherwise You might regret it like some (including me) who have sold their retro handhelds. I wouldn't sell a gcw0 because it is a special one despite it's hardware flaws.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: slaanesh on July 31, 2019, 01:01:16 am
They should switch the analogue pad and the d-pad!

Do you really think that moving the dpad/analog is possible this late into the development?

Both the PCB and case would need major revision... both not trivial...

Your best bet would be waiting for another re-cased version of the RG-350 - kind of like the LDK for the RS-97.
Essentially the same device in a different form factor.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: slaanesh on July 31, 2019, 01:14:29 am
@lazanti BTW, the sheet of paper that the RG-350 is resting on in your post with two photos looks kind of interesting.

Instructions to a plastic model of a manga girl by the looks of it? :)
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: ace9094 on August 10, 2019, 09:55:29 am
OK time to put the GCW Zero on ebay :)

Keep it, otherwise You might regret it like some (including me) who have sold their retro handhelds. I wouldn't sell a gcw0 because it is a special one despite it's hardware flaws.

I used to have too many handhelds... I have started to sell them off as I do not get time to play them all... If the GCW had more support I would keep it, but I may wait to see if teh RG350 does what it says it can :) Then I will get one 100%...

Problem with waiting is I think the GCW may lose value when the RG350 is released  :o
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: ace9094 on August 11, 2019, 01:27:31 pm

Here is a PLAYLIST of all the RG350 videos on there channel...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIH9AbR1zs0
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: wepecko on August 12, 2019, 05:41:40 pm
GCW Zero still doesnt have some perks available, like HDMI.?
Why this should be different, since it is similar HW? Am I wrong?
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: gameblabla on August 12, 2019, 08:24:20 pm
GCW Zero still doesnt have some perks available, like HDMI.?
Why this should be different, since it is similar HW? Am I wrong?
Nope, you're right to point that out. I believe they did add analog output in the upstream branch if i'm not wrong
but looks like this device will still use the old GCW0 kernel 3.4 code instead for now.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: Reds on August 13, 2019, 05:33:47 am
Supposedly HDMI-out will be implemented shortly after launch, but I'll believe it when I see it.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: exorio on August 14, 2019, 06:17:56 am
Looking sweet

but I bet this device is at somewhere $100 range

I'll have to pass then
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: Xaijiqq on August 20, 2019, 05:26:51 am
'3.5 inch IPS screen at 320x240 resolution, 4:3 aspect ratio' this really should be the standard for all retro handhelds. although, the dpad/button layout or the sticks can't decide which the bigger deal breaker is

But, no removable battery?
well thankfully someone mentioned it this time ;)
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: gameblabla on August 30, 2019, 07:47:10 pm
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0249/7567/1374/products/[email protected]?v=1566879651)

https://retrogame300.com/products/rg350
Don't order from them, some people got their refunded via paypal.

Looks like it's available for pre-orders for 79$. If you want to give it a shot well... now you can.
It's that or getting a switch lite for a little more than double that price huhuhu...
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: iball on August 31, 2019, 06:33:40 am
Meh, what the heck - I "pre-ordered" one.
I love my GCW0 and it still stomps on the all the current batch of Chinese retro handhelds so I'm curious enough to pay to find out if the 350 is an improvement on the GCW0.
I'm curious if the GPU on it has been fully utilized since I don't think it was on the GCW0.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: gameblabla on August 31, 2019, 03:52:38 pm
I'm curious if the GPU on it has been fully utilized since I don't think it was on the GCW0.
OpenGLES acceleration was available on the GCW0 since September 2013... However the drivers at the time were complete crap.
It's possible to update the rootfs with buildroot (and the Mesa drivers along with it) but uclibc does not have perfect backward compatibility... well at least not completely..
I'm assuming it will use the stock GCW0 firmware with a modified kernel.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: exorio on August 31, 2019, 09:13:07 pm
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0249/7567/1374/products/[email protected]?v=1566879651)

https://retrogame300.com/products/rg350 (https://retrogame300.com/products/rg350)

Looks like it's available for pre-orders for 79$. If you want to give it a shot well... now you can.
It's that or getting a switch lite for a little more than double that price huhuhu...

tempting :o

Imma keep watching over this device

thanks for the link
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: iball on August 31, 2019, 09:29:24 pm
OpenGLES acceleration was available on the GCW0 since September 2013... However the drivers at the time were complete crap.
It's possible to update the rootfs with buildroot (and the Mesa drivers along with it) but uclibc does not have perfect backward compatibility... well at least not completely..
I'm assuming it will use the stock GCW0 firmware with a modified kernel.
Thanks for the reminder, I remember reading about the OpenGLES and driver issues somewhere long ago.
Does that mean the RG350 will be using newer/better drivers than the GCW0 was using or is this basically a GCW0 with L2/R2 buttons and two thumbsticks since it *might* be running the stock GCW0 firmware?
Were better graphics drivers ever released for the GCW0? 
Wasn't there something about it needing stuff upstreamed into the mainline Linux kernel first or whatever?
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: Surkow on September 01, 2019, 01:33:53 am
OpenGLES acceleration was available on the GCW0 since September 2013... However the drivers at the time were complete crap.
It's possible to update the rootfs with buildroot (and the Mesa drivers along with it) but uclibc does not have perfect backward compatibility... well at least not completely..
I'm assuming it will use the stock GCW0 firmware with a modified kernel.
Thanks for the reminder, I remember reading about the OpenGLES and driver issues somewhere long ago.
Does that mean the RG350 will be using newer/better drivers than the GCW0 was using or is this basically a GCW0 with L2/R2 buttons and two thumbsticks since it *might* be running the stock GCW0 firmware?
Were better graphics drivers ever released for the GCW0? 
Wasn't there something about it needing stuff upstreamed into the mainline Linux kernel first or whatever?

Firmware development mainly depends on efforts from developers targeting the GCW zero.

The GLES driver was sufficient (http://www.gcw-zero.com/news.php?id=1) at the time. The GCW Zero was the first commercial device to ship with (an alpha version of) the reverse engineered Etnaviv GPU driver which targets Vivante hardware. Newer driver developments required a move away from the framebuffer which had been postponed until recently.

There have been efforts to upstream drivers into the Linux kernel and switch the firmware to depend on devicetree and DRM/KMS. DRM/KMS support means a more up to date Etnaviv driver can be used.

The RG-350 will most likely launch with a firmware based on the last stable GCW Zero release. Which makes it unlikely any of the bleeding edge development work from the GCW Zero firmware will be included.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: Nikojiro on September 02, 2019, 01:29:35 pm
Do we know at this point if the firmware will be open sourced ? It wasn't with the GCW Zero if I remember correctly. It would be a real issue to go with closed source when most other recent Ingenic devices have gone the open source way...

Also, are there already preorders online? This site (https://retrogame300.com/products/rg350 (https://retrogame300.com/products/rg350)) has already been relayed, but I've never heard about it, not sure about its reliability.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: CSX on September 02, 2019, 02:42:57 pm
Will we be able to use this firmware on GCW Zero?
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: gameblabla on September 02, 2019, 06:45:04 pm
Do we know at this point if the firmware will be open sourced ? It wasn't with the GCW Zero if I remember correctly. It would be a real issue to go with closed source when most other recent Ingenic devices have gone the open source way...
This is very wrong, the GCW0 was open sourced, down to the bootloader.
The RG-350 will use the exact same firmware (rootfs) and bootloader as the GCW0.
The only difference is a different kernel to support the right analog stick and the IPS screen.
(Said kernel is open sourced, link is at page 2 or something)

Will we be able to use this firmware on GCW Zero?
It is 100% identical to the GCW0 firmware. (i do believe they will remove the Wifi configuration tool though since the RG-350 doesn't have Wifi unlike the GCW0)
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: tonyjih on September 03, 2019, 03:31:49 am
Please don't spread false information, thank you.

Both bootloader, kernel, rootfs have to modified before they can work.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: gameblabla on September 03, 2019, 06:46:41 am
Both bootloader, kernel, rootfs have to modified before they can work.
I did say that the kernel and rootfs would have to be modified.
Didn't know that the bootloader also needed some changes too... Well i don't have the device yet on my hands so i had to make some assumptions.

EDIT: I completely forgot that the RG-350 is using 512MB of DDR2 rather than SDRAM so yes, the bootloader does require some modifications.
I thought that it used SDRAM like the GCW0 but looks like not.

It seems that the changes are fairly minimal though :
https://github.com/tonyjih/RG350_linux (https://github.com/tonyjih/RG350_linux)
https://github.com/tonyjih/RG350_UBIBoot (https://github.com/tonyjih/RG350_UBIBoot)

Seems like you are also translating most of the stuff (in Gmenu2x) to Chinese.

I don't know why they would sell their devices internationally with the device set to Chinese by default  but maybe there's something lost on me.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: wen_nug on September 03, 2019, 07:02:03 am
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0249/7567/1374/products/[email protected]?v=1566879651)

https://retrogame300.com/products/rg350 (https://retrogame300.com/products/rg350)

Looks like it's available for pre-orders for 79$. If you want to give it a shot well... now you can.
It's that or getting a switch lite for a little more than double that price huhuhu...

The STRAT button looks legit tho ;)
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: slaanesh on September 05, 2019, 02:41:38 am
The STRAT button looks legit tho ;)
I dunno why consoles have "SELECT" and "START" buttons anyway. They're never used as dedicated buttons anyway!

They just should be another generic button like "C" and "Z"
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: slaanesh on September 06, 2019, 12:50:35 am
Also, are there already preorders online? This site (https://retrogame300.com/products/rg350 (https://retrogame300.com/products/rg350)) has already been relayed, but I've never heard about it, not sure about its reliability.

The website states that the RG350 would be available at the end of September which is only 3 weeks or so.
Does that mean the RG350 will be available for general release at around this time?
Who is this retrogame300 company/owner anyway?
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: Surkow on September 06, 2019, 02:09:03 am
Also, are there already preorders online? This site (https://retrogame300.com/products/rg350 (https://retrogame300.com/products/rg350)) has already been relayed, but I've never heard about it, not sure about its reliability.

The website states that the RG350 would be available at the end of September which is only 3 weeks or so.
Does that mean the RG350 will be available for general release at around this time?
Who is this retrogame300 company/owner anyway?
Apparently the distributor or manufacturer is Anbernic (http://.aliexpress.com/store/3850034). I expect the domain to be registered by one of their resellers.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: Jenova on September 06, 2019, 03:34:21 am
http://ylmchina.com/en/product.asp

This is their official website.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: quadjfet on September 08, 2019, 01:48:01 am
http://ylmchina.com/en/product.asp

This is their official website.


That is YLMChina/Coolbaby's official, english-facing website.

As far as I know, they manufacture a bunch of the current cheap handhelds available, but not necessarily all of them. Their official website doesn't seem to sell direct to consumers, and doesn't even list all the products they actually manufacture and sell, anyways. See https://nds-gba.en.alibaba.com/ for what seems to be a more useful, updated list.

Do we have confirmation that the RG350 is a YLMChina product?

@tonyjih , are you and the RG350 project affiliated with YLM?
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: slaanesh on September 09, 2019, 06:18:36 am
I want to get one of these ASAP after release.

I'm in Australia.

Where's the best place for me to get one of these?

I've used aliexpress.com previously and had no problems with them.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: odjinan on September 09, 2019, 07:01:54 am
I want to get one of these ASAP after release.

I'm in Australia.

Where's the best place for me to get one of these?

I've used aliexpress.com previously and had no problems with them.

aliexpress.com/item/4000112234837.html
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: slaanesh on September 09, 2019, 07:38:18 am
I want to get one of these ASAP after release.

I'm in Australia.

Where's the best place for me to get one of these?

I've used aliexpress.com previously and had no problems with them.

aliexpress.com/item/4000112234837.html
All gone already? Or just a placer for once it comes into stock?
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: odjinan on September 09, 2019, 11:21:12 am
All gone already? Or just a placer for once it comes into stock?

just a placeholder, its not available yet.

Be patient  8)
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: ruffnutts on September 09, 2019, 07:56:49 pm
Thinking about pre-ordering one hmm  8)
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: iball on September 09, 2019, 10:24:23 pm
I pre-ordered one.  I'll report back once they finally ship it and it's in my hands how well it works.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: Jenova on September 10, 2019, 12:03:50 am
Where did you preorder from?
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: iball on September 10, 2019, 12:10:53 am
Where did you preorder from?

There's a link in this thread somewhere...
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: 02k0 on September 14, 2019, 05:47:22 pm
It's possible to plays Half Life BLUE or 1 in this?

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Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: ruffnutts on September 18, 2019, 11:01:56 pm
In stock now

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000112234837.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.3ce93011wV1hif&algo_pvid=13f00e6b-21e9-426b-9fc8-a70ec8479a8b&algo_expid=13f00e6b-21e9-426b-9fc8-a70ec8479a8b-2&btsid=38c60cfd-e7d2-426f-9be7-96655e71f6cb&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_2,searchweb201603_53

ruffnutts
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: sirdrak on September 19, 2019, 11:37:38 am
I bought mine yesterday  :)
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: jimmybonsaville on September 19, 2019, 11:39:23 am
I bought mine yerterday  :)

Im looking forward to seeing everyones reviews on this :D
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: chevette on September 19, 2019, 02:39:42 pm
$95 seems too high.
This place is selling it for $79.99 / shipping end of September

https://retrogame300.com/

****Not sure about shipping cost though
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: exorio on September 19, 2019, 05:18:10 pm
Just one question

are the joysticks clickable; L3/R3 buttons available?
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: slaanesh on September 20, 2019, 12:43:37 am
Dang it I missed it! They only had 30 and they're gone!


Can someone save me one? I want to get XMAME 2.0 on this ASAP! :)
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: iball on September 20, 2019, 01:30:14 am
$95 seems too high.
This place is selling it for $79.99 / shipping end of September

https://retrogame300.com/

****Not sure about shipping cost though

I ordered one from there, waiting for it to ship.
I also have a GCW0 which I'll be comparing it to.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: eltehero on September 20, 2019, 05:39:55 am
Dang it I missed it! They only had 30 and they're gone!


Can someone save me one? I want to get XMAME 2.0 on this ASAP! :)

slaanesh, there are a couple of other devices imminent for release which are much more similar to the GCW Zero and would be good choice for Mame

The New PocketGo/Miyoo uses the JZ4770 like the GCW Zero

https://obscurehandhelds.com/2019/09/new-pocketgo-in-the-works/#more-5224


The RG350H is the other one and comments state the processor will be running at 1.5Ghz

https://obscurehandhelds.com/2019/08/the-rg350-may-have-a-more-powerful-competitor-soon/

It looks like the official name of the device is GKD350


The good thing is that both these devices have proper dpad placement for 2d games unlike the RG350


Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: poweravr on September 20, 2019, 10:54:06 am
Hello everyone.
   Another retro handheld console came out.You can choose one more for the retro handheld console. We are about to sell the GKD350 retro handheld console. Performance is higher than RG350.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: papapito on September 20, 2019, 05:52:47 pm
Hello everyone.
   Another retro handheld console came out.You can choose one more for the retro handheld console. We are about to sell the GKD350 retro handheld console. Performance is higher than RG350.

Details, please.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: eltehero on September 20, 2019, 06:21:14 pm
Hello everyone.
   Another retro handheld console came out.You can choose one more for the retro handheld console. We are about to sell the GKD350 retro handheld console. Performance is higher than RG350.

Details, please.

I think it's this one that I have linked in the post #77 above. It looks like they have changed the name from RG350H to GKD350

The RG350H is the other one and comments state the processor will be running at 1.5Ghz
https://obscurehandhelds.com/2019/08/the-rg350-may-have-a-more-powerful-competitor-soon/

It looks very nice, hope it is a solid retro device
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: Panja on September 20, 2019, 06:45:09 pm
I am exited as well!!

Can we get some specs and prices?
Where to buy?
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: poweravr on September 21, 2019, 02:49:30 am
Hello everyone.
   Another retro handheld console came out.You can choose one more for the retro handheld console. We are about to sell the GKD350 retro handheld console. Performance is higher than RG350.

Details, please.
Let me introduce our product features.
1)  3.5" 320x240 pixels IPS LCD; 4:3 aspect ratio is ideal for retro gaming
2)  High performance、low power consumption MIPS processor   1.5GHZ
3)  MicroSD card slot,Maximum support 256GB TF card
4)  Analog joystick, D-pad, four action buttons, two LR buttons and two system buttons
5)  A stereo headphone jack; 1W speaker with mono audio power amplifier
6)  Micro USB port for data copying and charging
7)  2300mAh rechargeable battery ;good for 6+ hours of play
8)  At 150mm x 75mm and weighing 155g; it's also super-portable and will easily slip into your bag or pocket

This is a demo video for GKD350
https://www.bilibili.com/video/av68133479/?p=1&share_source=qq&share_medium=iphone&bbid=7ce2cc0c3fcb562e113bd93a38c60683&ts=156877115
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: poweravr on September 21, 2019, 02:51:19 am
I am exited as well!!

Can we get some specs and prices?
Where to buy?
comeing soon. 
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: poweravr on September 21, 2019, 02:55:12 am
Hello everyone.
   Another retro handheld console came out.You can choose one more for the retro handheld console. We are about to sell the GKD350 retro handheld console. Performance is higher than RG350.

Details, please.

I think it's this one that I have linked in the post #77 above. It looks like they have changed the name from RG350H to GKD350

The RG350H is the other one and comments state the processor will be running at 1.5Ghz
https://obscurehandhelds.com/2019/08/the-rg350-may-have-a-more-powerful-competitor-soon/

It looks very nice, hope it is a solid retro device
Yes, you are right. We changed the name.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: Panja on September 21, 2019, 04:13:09 am
Hello everyone.
   Another retro handheld console came out.You can choose one more for the retro handheld console. We are about to sell the GKD350 retro handheld console. Performance is higher than RG350.

Details, please.
Let me introduce our product features.
1)  3.5" 320x240 pixels IPS LCD; 4:3 aspect ratio is ideal for retro gaming
2)  High performance、low power consumption MIPS processor   1.5GHZ
3)  MicroSD card slot,Maximum support 256GB TF card
4)  Analog joystick, D-pad, four action buttons, two LR buttons and two system buttons
5)  A stereo headphone jack; 1W speaker with mono audio power amplifier
6)  Micro USB port for data copying and charging
7)  2300mAh rechargeable battery ;good for 6+ hours of play
8)  At 150mm x 75mm and weighing 155g; it's also super-portable and will easily slip into your bag or pocket

This is a demo video for GKD350
https://www.bilibili.com/video/av68133479/?p=1&share_source=qq&share_medium=iphone&bbid=7ce2cc0c3fcb562e113bd93a38c60683&ts=156877115

Sounds awesome!!

Can you please tell us what MIPS processor is it? Model/type?
What operating system does it run?
What will be the estimated price?
When will it be available and where?
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: hi-ban on September 21, 2019, 04:29:09 pm
Yes, you are right. We changed the name.

Are you going to send development units to community developers?
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: iball on September 21, 2019, 10:03:08 pm
Yes, you are right. We changed the name.

Are you going to send development units to community developers?
Yeah, would be nice if community devs here like gameblablablablablablabla got one to develop and port stuff over on.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: gameblabla on September 22, 2019, 12:28:07 am
2)  High performance、low power consumption MIPS processor   1.5GHZ
I seriously wonder what that MIPS processor/soc could be ?
The most likely explanation is that it might be an overclocked JZ4780 but its stock speed is like 1.2Ghz so it does not sound very reasonable that all of them would reach 1.5Ghz when overclocked...

I also doubt its one of the new I7200 cores because its nanoMIPS based and it would require (i believe) recompiling everything.
I say that but i have never dealt with any nanoMIPS core, much less a MIPS I7200 one...

Seeing the video, it does look like it is indeed a MIPS soc because reGBA and PCSX4ALL are not available for ARM.
Not sure what's inside.

Well it does seem to run smoothly and it should have enough horsepower for something like VBA Next...

Yes, you are right. We changed the name.

Are you going to send development units to community developers?
Yeah, would be nice if community devs here like gameblablablablablablabla got one to develop and port stuff over on.
It's gameblabla : P
I would love to get one for development of course.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: HercTNT on September 22, 2019, 01:58:01 am
We need to make Gameblabla famous with a "Gameblablablablablabla meme and maybe even t-shirts" ;)

I to wonder what the mips could be, i preordered an rg350 and am very much looking forward to it. this other device sounds nice to.

Ok......I made the meme myself. All in good fun. Sorry Gameblabla, I could not resist ;)
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: eltehero on September 22, 2019, 10:11:48 am
I hope that the original dingoo A320 devs which made the gcw zero such a great handheld (I am speaking of the emulators and homebrew) get dev units for these upcoming devices using the powerful processors
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: sirdrak on September 22, 2019, 01:20:09 pm
2)  High performance、low power consumption MIPS processor   1.5GHZ
I seriously wonder what that MIPS processor/soc could be ?
The most likely explanation is that it might be an overclocked JZ4780 but its stock speed is like 1.2Ghz so it does not sound very reasonable that all of them would reach 1.5Ghz when overclocked...

I also doubt its one of the new I7200 cores because its nanoMIPS based and it would require (i believe) recompiling everything.
I say that but i have never dealt with any nanoMIPS core, much less a MIPS I7200 one...

Seeing the video, it does look like it is indeed a MIPS soc because reGBA and PCSX4ALL are not available for ARM.
Not sure what's inside.

Well it does seem to run smoothly and it should have enough horsepower for something like VBA Next...

Yes, you are right. We changed the name.

Are you going to send development units to community developers?
Yeah, would be nice if community devs here like gameblablablablablablabla got one to develop and port stuff over on.
It's gameblabla : P
I would love to get one for development of course.

This is from another topic about the GKD350/350H:

All tests are real data. The skip frame option is not turned on.

You are saying that it uses a MIPs processor of 1'5 Ghz, but none of the Ingenic ones are 1'5 Ghz... It's the jz4770? Are you adding the 500 Mhz of the video decoder to the 1 Ghz of the Ingenic processor for marketing purposes? That's no good...

When I ask him repeatedly about that, all I get from him is that it is a customized model (I really doubt it). I think it's another jz4770 like in RG350 and Miyoo ones.

The topic about this: https://boards.dingoonity.org/other-game-systems/game-kiddy-gkd350-handheld-console-65292-the-performance-exceeds-gcw-zero/ (https://boards.dingoonity.org/other-game-systems/game-kiddy-gkd350-handheld-console-65292-the-performance-exceeds-gcw-zero/)
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: blackz1982 on September 22, 2019, 02:14:26 pm
May be Ingenic M200.

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Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: gameblabla on September 22, 2019, 05:44:23 pm
May be Ingenic M200.
M200 is like 1.2Ghz at best like the JZ4780, except without a 3D accelerator.

Quote
When I ask him repeatedly about that, all I get from him is that it is a customized model (I really doubt it). I think it's another jz4770 like in RG350 and Miyoo ones.

The topic about this: https://boards.dingoonity.org/other-game-systems/game-kiddy-gkd350-handheld-console-65292-the-performance-exceeds-gcw-zero/
If its not the JZ4780 or M200 then i think that :
- They are probably bullshitting us on the clock speed and its really 1.2 Ghz
- or It's a new MIPS32 soc we are not aware of. (could be an I7200, or something else)

As he said, there are no Ingenic socs running at the stock speed of 1.5Ghz. Xburst2 got cancelled and i doubt any made out of here.

Pick one
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: pcercuei on September 23, 2019, 01:21:44 am
XBurst 2 was not canceled, where did you get that idea?

The M200 is dual-core 1.2 GHz + 300 MHz, I guess that's where the 1.5 GHz figure comes from.

Or it could be an overclocked JZ4770. It's definitely Ingenic though.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: Leo-brasil on September 23, 2019, 01:29:54 am
I found these recent videos of the device being tested SNES and PSX emulators

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ii-hFpLAGc8
Playstation 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zFEs2AlmgY
Super Snes
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: 02k0 on September 23, 2019, 01:52:52 am
Conclusion.  A lot needs to be optimized yet.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: gameblabla on September 24, 2019, 04:06:02 am
XBurst 2 was not canceled, where did you get that idea?
Then its on hold forever ? Because Ingenic were working on a MIPS64 sucessor back in 2013~2014 and we never heard of it.
Unless the M200 is Xburst 2 ? Do you know what happened to that ?
Because apart from the M200, we got nothing from Ingenic beyond the JZ4780. I even looked at their website and that's all i could find.

Quote
The M200 is dual-core 1.2 GHz + 300 MHz, I guess that's where the 1.5 GHz figure comes from.
Ah, that makes sense. Kind of like how they advertise the RS-97 with its Ingenic JZ4760 being dual core, even though it is just the main CPU + VPU.

Quote
Conclusion.  A lot needs to be optimized yet.
It could be improved. PCSX4ALL part5 by senquack will make use of the MXU. We can expect an improvement of 10% at least.
As for PocketSNES, i had great results with PGO'ing the executable so this is something that needs to be done on the GCW0/RG350 version as well. I could do it but i'm still waiting for the RG350 team to send me a dev unit.
Some people already got their RG-350. (or are about to)
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: 02k0 on September 24, 2019, 04:15:59 am
Dear Gameblabla, do you think the PocketGo 1 is a great alternative to the Dingoo A320, cost effective?
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: gameblabla on September 24, 2019, 04:19:48 am
Dear Gameblabla, do you think the PocketGo 1 is a great alternative to the Dingoo A320, cost effective?
The PocketGo (and Bittboy) has an issue with the screen being SPI, which means that screen refresh rate can't go beyond 40hz.
I guess this could be worked around with compression but either way, this is just plain bad.

Some people don't mind that but i would just recommend the LDK, which costs only 7$ more than the PocketGo on Aliexpress.
It has a great dpad and doesn't have the refresh rate issues that the Bittboy & PocketGo have.

I guess if you ignore the screen then the PocketGo not too bad and it uses Linux 4.14 unlike the LDK's Linux 2.6.31.3. (Some people were working on upstream support for the JZ4760 but i have no idea where that went)

Or you could also wait for the PG2, which apparently will also use a JZ4770. If they cut down the price on that then it can't be a bad alternative. Same for the GK350 if it does use a M200 or JZ4780.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: 02k0 on September 24, 2019, 04:30:24 am
So you think the LDK Mini replaces the RS-97 V3 screen?

I own have this model of RS-97, the worst is that for some time now, the Bootleg market has been constantly updating.

As a developer, would you recommend an LDK Mini as a final product?

 I even have a plan to buy RG350, but I think it's too big for me.

Give me some advice (since it's free).

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Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: pcercuei on September 24, 2019, 10:35:36 pm
Just one question

are the joysticks clickable; L3/R3 buttons available?
Yes!

L2 is KEY_PAGEUP, R2 is KEY_PAGEDOWN, L3 is KEY_KPSLASH, R3 is KEY_KPDOT.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: exorio on September 25, 2019, 12:19:53 am
Just one question

are the joysticks clickable; L3/R3 buttons available?
Yes!

L2 is KEY_PAGEUP, R2 is KEY_PAGEDOWN, L3 is KEY_KPSLASH, R3 is KEY_KPDOT.

Thank you! Finally.

I'm keeping this device under my radar.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: pcercuei on September 25, 2019, 12:29:04 am
XBurst 2 was not canceled, where did you get that idea?
Then its on hold forever ? Because Ingenic were working on a MIPS64 sucessor back in 2013~2014 and we never heard of it.
Unless the M200 is Xburst 2 ? Do you know what happened to that ?
Because apart from the M200, we got nothing from Ingenic beyond the JZ4780. I even looked at their website and that's all i could find.

Well, they did the X1000, M200, T01/T10/T20/T30 in between. They switch away from general-purpose computing to go towards IoT and extreme performance-per-watt. I guess it makes sense.

From what I know, the future Xburst 2 chip is still 32-bit, clocked a bit higher (1.2 GHz? Don't remember) but multi-core and vastly more powerful than the jz4770.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: slaanesh on September 25, 2019, 12:55:07 am
From what I know, the future Xburst 2 chip is still 32-bit, clocked a bit higher (1.2 GHz? Don't remember) but multi-core and vastly more powerful than the jz4770.
Well bring it on!

But for now a couple of these jz4770 devices would be sweet.

I heard that the GKD350 (GK350H) will NOT support the IPU due to the way the LCD screen is being used.
It's not a huge deal but I really like the IPU on the ingenic devices.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: 02k0 on September 25, 2019, 03:22:52 am
Disponible here:

https://m.alibaba.com/product/62314817121/3-5-inch-IPS-screen-opendingux.html?spm=a2706.wap_new_search.1998817009.6.5e16284fOr5VlX&__detailProductImg=%2F%2Fs.alicdn.com%2F%40sc01%2Fkf%2FHea1b7848e4a8471ba70b185864be9425L%2F3-5-inch-IPS-screen-opendingux-system.jpg_140x140xz.jpg


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Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: 02k0 on September 25, 2019, 05:26:30 am
N64 test:

https://youtu.be/9V6dXbMfr-M

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Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: exorio on September 25, 2019, 06:50:06 am
Disponible here:

https://m.alibaba.com/product/62314817121/3-5-inch-IPS-screen-opendingux.html?spm=a2706.wap_new_search.1998817009.6.5e16284fOr5VlX&__detailProductImg=%2F%2Fs.alicdn.com%2F%40sc01%2Fkf%2FHea1b7848e4a8471ba70b185864be9425L%2F3-5-inch-IPS-screen-opendingux-system.jpg_140x140xz.jpg


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SWEEEEEET

so it's around 70 bucks at this time

Not much review currently. Not as booming as LDK did.

But I'm definitely gonna get one.

The clear version isn't bold, just wondering why nobody going with 100% transparent instead of these semi-transparent frosted ones ???

And the buttons on the clear versions are all black

I don't like the white one, the color scheme is a bit odd.

I like pocketgo snes/famicom-like white

So I'll probably get the black-orange or the clear white nevertheless
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: 02k0 on September 25, 2019, 03:52:23 pm
Disponible here:

https://m.alibaba.com/product/62314817121/3-5-inch-IPS-screen-opendingux.html?spm=a2706.wap_new_search.1998817009.6.5e16284fOr5VlX&__detailProductImg=%2F%2Fs.alicdn.com%2F%40sc01%2Fkf%2FHea1b7848e4a8471ba70b185864be9425L%2F3-5-inch-IPS-screen-opendingux-system.jpg_140x140xz.jpg


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SWEEEEEET

so it's around 70 bucks at this time

Not much review currently. Not as booming as LDK did.

But I'm definitely gonna get one.

The clear version isn't bold, just wondering why nobody going with 100% transparent instead of these semi-transparent frosted ones ???

And the buttons on the clear versions are all black

I don't like the white one, the color scheme is a bit odd.

I like pocketgo snes/famicom-like white

So I'll probably get the black-orange or the clear white nevertheless
With these constant updates, you may need to wait a little longer, as I fear that three months from now a better version of the RG350 will emerge.  So the LDK Mini looks pretty good, but the RG350 is at least 40% better than the LDK.  It's pretty much running some N64 and PS1 games, not that I care about that, but that's pretty impressive for a $ 60 console.

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Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: gameblabla on September 26, 2019, 11:29:39 am
Btw i must mention, if you pre-ordered one from retrogame300.com, i would suggest you try to get a refund.
I linked to that website as it was the first instance i saw it online but i've been told me they were asking for prepayments (i wish i actually checked for that before linking) and it's really odd that they delayed it to October when it already got released already on aliexpress... i can't guarantee you'll get one.

(In fact, i have no idea if anyone got the RG-300 from it either, i'm not sure.)

EDIT: Someone else who bought it there got reimbursed for the preorder with little issues so just saying.

EDIT2: Someone reported that he got his RG-300 from said website. So maybe you could trust them but it's still a huge bummer that you have to wait until October when you can pretty much get a refund and get that console well before mid october.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: 02k0 on September 26, 2019, 03:15:01 pm
Btw i must mention, if you pre-ordered one from retrogame300.com, i would suggest you try to get a refund.
I linked to that website as it was the first instance i saw it online but i've been told me they were asking for prepayments (i wish i actually checked for that before linking) and it's really odd that they delayed it to October when it already got released already on aliexpress... i can't guarantee you'll get one.

(In fact, i have no idea if anyone got the RG-300 from it either, i'm not sure.)

EDIT: Someone else who bought it there got reimbursed for the preorder with little issues so just saying.
Yes. But luckily I haven't ordered any RG350 for myself yet.
I would say that it would be easier for me to buy via Alibaba, one.
I think the price is better and fast delivery.
Even better would be a small and powerful GPX Wiz.

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Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: Nikojiro on September 26, 2019, 10:29:23 pm
Hi, I got mine in the mail today, grey/white color ordered from Anbernic AliExpress shop. It barely took a week to reach me!

First contact with the device quite positive, materials are nice,with grainy plastic on the front and back shell. The sticks have a nice rubbery coating and are clickable.

The screen is IPS, looks quite OK though since it's 3.5" you can see pixels more easily than on smaller screens.

Just had time to quickly fire up a PS1 game, I'll report after getting a little bit more to grips with it  ;D
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: iball on September 27, 2019, 12:35:52 am
Btw i must mention, if you pre-ordered one from retrogame300.com, i would suggest you try to get a refund.
I linked to that website as it was the first instance i saw it online but i've been told me they were asking for prepayments (i wish i actually checked for that before linking) and it's really odd that they delayed it to October when it already got released already on aliexpress... i can't guarantee you'll get one.

(In fact, i have no idea if anyone got the RG-300 from it either, i'm not sure.)

EDIT: Someone else who bought it there got reimbursed for the preorder with little issues so just saying.

EDIT2: Someone reported that he got his RG-300 from said website. So maybe you could trust them but it's still a huge bummer that you have to wait until October when you can pretty much get a refund and get that console well before mid october.

Well, I ordered a RG-350 from there and last night sent them an email asking about the order and haven't heard anything back from them yet. 
I'll give them another day to respond and if they don't then I'm getting a refund and reporting them to PayPal.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: HercTNT on September 27, 2019, 01:24:21 am
I messaged them and got a response within a few hours saying the item has been delayed till october.  other sites claim to have them in stock, but don't seem to be actually selling them. i guess it depends on where you look.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: iball on September 27, 2019, 03:50:38 am
I messaged them and got a response within a few hours saying the item has been delayed till october.  other sites claim to have them in stock, but don't seem to be actually selling them. i guess it depends on where you look.
I just got an email response from them:
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Hello, the unit had been delayed. The selling on Aliexpress is not real. They are making preselling too.
We can get the unit at the middle of October. We can ship out your order at that time. Thanks.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: gameblabla on September 27, 2019, 06:00:55 am
I just got an email response from them:
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Hello, the unit had been delayed. The selling on Aliexpress is not real. They are making preselling too.
We can get the unit at the middle of October. We can ship out your order at that time. Thanks.
Well i guess that settles it then but i don't, still hardly preorders ? Not sure it works like that but meh.

Tony uploaded more stuff, mostly minor changes and fixes :
https://github.com/tonyjih/RG350_buildroot/commits/opendingux-2014.08 (https://github.com/tonyjih/RG350_buildroot/commits/opendingux-2014.08)

One of the etnaviv's patch is mostly a header file from etnaviv which was gigantic but missing.

There was also a battery fix for the kernel 13 days ago but i'm sure the RG-350 is shipping it with it already.

I heard that they were planning to push updates to it. (including possibly HDMI out via a blob ?)
I hate to see it deviate from OpenDingux but there had been no stable releases for the GCW0 in a while...

@pcercuei Do you plan (and/or want) to get one for development or your GCW0 with the commits will suffice ?
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: 02k0 on September 27, 2019, 06:04:21 am
I just got an email response from them:
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Hello, the unit had been delayed. The selling on Aliexpress is not real. They are making preselling too.
We can get the unit at the middle of October. We can ship out your order at that time. Thanks.
Well i guess that settles it then but i don't, still hardly preorders ? Not sure it works like that but meh.

Tony uploaded more stuff, mostly minor changes and fixes :
https://github.com/tonyjih/RG350_buildroot/commits/opendingux-2014.08 (https://github.com/tonyjih/RG350_buildroot/commits/opendingux-2014.08)

One of the etnaviv's patch is mostly a header file from etnaviv which was gigantic but missing.

There was also a battery fix for the kernel 13 days ago but i'm sure the RG-350 is shipping it with it already.

I heard that they were planning to push updates to it. (including possibly HDMI out via a blob ?)
I hate to see it deviate from OpenDingux but there had been no stable releases for the GCW0 in a while...

@pcercuei Do you plan (and/or want) to get one for development or your GCW0 with the commits will suffice ?
Maybe this can run good  N64, or should we wait for PocketGo 3?

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Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: gameblabla on September 27, 2019, 06:08:24 am
Maybe this can run good N64
This uses the same hardware as the GCW0. Mupen64Plus works ok in some games and bad in some others.
Nebuleon posted it here :
https://boards.dingoonity.org/gcw-development/mupen64plus-technical-preview/ (https://boards.dingoonity.org/gcw-development/mupen64plus-technical-preview/)

Here's a video of the GCW0 running it, RG-350 should be very similar (Same JZ4770 chip) :

https://youtu.be/j-0RtQHvItQ?t=420

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or should we wait for PocketGo 3?
I expect the PocketGo 3 to be either :
- Another revision with little to no changes (per usual)
- Switching back to ARM (most likely Rockchip or Allwinner)
- Never going to happen

Pick one
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: 02k0 on September 27, 2019, 06:14:55 am
Maybe this can run good N64
This uses the same hardware as the GCW0. Mupen64Plus works ok in some games and bad in some others.
Nebuleon posted it here :
https://boards.dingoonity.org/gcw-development/mupen64plus-technical-preview/ (https://boards.dingoonity.org/gcw-development/mupen64plus-technical-preview/)

Here's a video of the GCW0 running it, RG-350 should be very similar (Same JZ4770 chip) :

https://youtu.be/j-0RtQHvItQ?t=420

Quote
or should we wait for PocketGo 3?
I expect the PocketGo 3 to be either :
- Another revision with little to no changes (per usual)
- Switching back to ARM (most likely Rockchip or Allwinner)
- Never going to happen

Pick one
It seems that emulating N64 on these generic processors is a virtually impossible mission.

  Maybe there is some possibility of optimization or maybe even reduce the graphics quality of games.

 I ask you the question, what would the RG350 need to run N64 well?

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Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: Nikojiro on September 27, 2019, 05:01:24 pm
Guys, there is currently a sitewide coupon on ALiExpress, that cuts 10 EUR from the price : "FRENCHDAYS". I spotted that info on french forum OpenConsoles.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: jbanes on September 28, 2019, 03:23:47 pm
It seems that emulating N64 on these generic processors is a virtually impossible mission.

It's not a processor problem. The N64 used a MIPS processor same as the RG350. Except the RG350's processor runs 10x faster. (93.75MHz -> 1GHz)

The real issue comes down to the GPU architecture. The GPU on the N64 used a shared memory architecture with the CPU. Developers were able to take full advantage of this, trading off processing between the CPU and GPU without having to schedule copies to the GPU.

The problem is that modern architectures separate the CPU memory and GPU memory. Data has to be scheduled to copy between these memory spaces, typically over the PCI bus. This separation is typically enforced even with current shared memory architectures in order to simplify the programming model and ensure memory protection.

There's a writeup on LibRetro on how they're using Vulkan to finally solve this:

https://www.libretro.com/index.php/first-ever-revolutionary-n64-vulkan-emulator-coming-soon-only-for-libretro-parallei/

Don't expect Vulkan on the RG350 any time soon.

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I ask you the question, what would the RG350 need to run N64 well?

It would require a sophisticated understanding of the JZ4770's GPU architecture along with a custom-built emulator that takes advantage of the JZ4770 design. That *might* get us there. The question raised is: Who has time to do this? And would they really be interested in doing something so non-portable?

In some ways it might be easier to build a custom N64 portable device with an appropriate shared memory architecture and an FPGA that emulates the original RDP/Angrylion GPU. It would probably be more expensive than anyone is willing to pay, however. :(
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: 02k0 on September 28, 2019, 03:39:03 pm
It seems that emulating N64 on these generic processors is a virtually impossible mission.

It's not a processor problem. The N64 used a MIPS processor same as the RG350. Except the RG350's processor runs 10x faster. (93.75MHz -> 1GHz)

The real issue comes down to the GPU architecture. The GPU on the N64 used a shared memory architecture with the CPU. Developers were able to take full advantage of this, trading off processing between the CPU and GPU without having to schedule copies to the GPU.

The problem is that modern architectures separate the CPU memory and GPU memory. Data has to be scheduled to copy between these memory spaces, typically over the PCI bus. This separation is typically enforced even with current shared memory architectures in order to simplify the programming model and ensure memory protection.

There's a writeup on LibRetro on how they're using Vulkan to finally solve this:

https://www.libretro.com/index.php/first-ever-revolutionary-n64-vulkan-emulator-coming-soon-only-for-libretro-parallei/

Don't expect Vulkan on the RG350 any time soon.

Quote
I ask you the question, what would the RG350 need to run N64 well?

It would require a sophisticated understanding of the JZ4770's GPU architecture along with a custom-built emulator that takes advantage of the JZ4770 design. That *might* get us there. The question raised is: Who has time to do this? And would they really be interested in doing something so non-portable?

In some ways it might be easier to build a custom N64 portable device with an appropriate shared memory architecture and an FPGA that emulates the original RDP/Angrylion GPU. It would probably be more expensive than anyone is willing to pay, however. :(
It's a huge challenge, I'd say an act of faith.  I still prefer to think that someone, incognito, must be working very hard at developing it.
  Personally I would not buy an RG350 just to emulate N64 or PS1, it is usually more beneficial to emulate the other older consoles.

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Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: jbanes on September 28, 2019, 04:05:16 pm
Personally I would not buy an RG350 just to emulate N64 or PS1, it is usually more beneficial to emulate the other older consoles.

I think it's perfectly reasonable to expect the PS1 to emulate well on the RG350. The PS1 architecture is quite a bit more similar to today's architectures and all the controls needed are on the device. Plus it's powerful enough to play all the systems that came before, making it an excellent option for classic gaming on the go.

Unfortunately, we're unlikely to see Sega Saturn emulation anytime soon for a similar reason to the N64. The Saturn is more of a high-performance sprite scaling engine rather than proper 3D hardware. (But dang, did those 2D games look good!) Strangely, Dreamcast emulation may be more feasible.

A similar problem exists with the Atari Jaguar which has a similar architecture to the Sega Saturn. The upshot, however, is that developers didn't know anything about these newfangled multi-processor systems and generally programmed it like it was a Genesis. Many of the games never even initialized the 32-bit RISC processors, opting instead to use the 16 bit processor that was intended to boot the system and coordinate the RISC processors. (Atari didn't exactly help here, providing really poor support to developers.)

Unfortunately, Jaguar emulation is still pretty nascent. Interest in the Jaguar is pretty low to begin with and the community around it can be... interesting. If you've never met Gorf, CEO of selling home-brew copies of Gorf for the Jaguar (not kidding), you haven't lived!  ;D
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: Reds on September 29, 2019, 03:22:32 am
I would take N64 completely off the table and encourage you to remove it from your expectations, but the majority of PS1 games run quite well on RG-350 and you should focus on that instead as what to expect from this thing.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: 02k0 on September 29, 2019, 06:26:58 am
Personally I would not buy an RG350 just to emulate N64 or PS1, it is usually more beneficial to emulate the other older consoles.

I think it's perfectly reasonable to expect the PS1 to emulate well on the RG350. The PS1 architecture is quite a bit more similar to today's architectures and all the controls needed are on the device. Plus it's powerful enough to play all the systems that came before, making it an excellent option for classic gaming on the go.

Unfortunately, we're unlikely to see Sega Saturn emulation anytime soon for a similar reason to the N64. The Saturn is more of a high-performance sprite scaling engine rather than proper 3D hardware. (But dang, did those 2D games look good!) Strangely, Dreamcast emulation may be more feasible.

A similar problem exists with the Atari Jaguar which has a similar architecture to the Sega Saturn. The upshot, however, is that developers didn't know anything about these newfangled multi-processor systems and generally programmed it like it was a Genesis. Many of the games never even initialized the 32-bit RISC processors, opting instead to use the 16 bit processor that was intended to boot the system and coordinate the RISC processors. (Atari didn't exactly help here, providing really poor support to developers.)

Unfortunately, Jaguar emulation is still pretty nascent. Interest in the Jaguar is pretty low to begin with and the community around it can be... interesting. If you've never met Gorf, CEO of selling home-brew copies of Gorf for the Jaguar (not kidding), you haven't lived!  ;D
I've used PS1 a few times, I think less than 5 times in my life, so maybe that's why I don't care much about PS1 emulation, actually I've had more experiences with PS2, too bad the RG350 can't emulate  no PS2 games.
  If he can handle SNES, that's fine.
 Could any wizard engage in this project? Waiting for the RG350 Plus.

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Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: 02k0 on September 29, 2019, 06:29:00 am
I would take N64 completely off the table and encourage you to remove it from your expectations, but the majority of PS1 games run quite well on RG-350 and you should focus on that instead as what to expect from this thing.
I would choose the RG 350, there is clear evidence that it is preferred.
 It may be that emulating well N64 on this console can be a utopia.

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Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: ace9094 on September 29, 2019, 06:54:18 am
Looks great, do we have a confirmed release date and re-seller ?
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: 02k0 on September 29, 2019, 06:55:30 am
Looks great, do we have a confirmed release date and re-seller ?
https://youtu.be/nzRXx534qHE

More link in the description.

This is [email protected]!
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: ace9094 on September 29, 2019, 08:09:59 am
Looks great, do we have a confirmed release date and re-seller ?
https://youtu.be/nzRXx534qHE

More link in the description.

This is [email protected]!

Thanks Order :) 20 - 40 days delivery

Anyone have one already?
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: DieterLaser on September 29, 2019, 03:54:31 pm
@exorio
so what do you think? is it finally the time to get blood on one of those devices? :) i remember you complaining about missing control options. with the rg350 you could use the left dpad or stick for walking, right stick for looking around. and the 2 L and R buttons for jumping, shooting, changing the weapon and strafing. and one button for ducking
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: ace9094 on September 30, 2019, 10:59:34 am
 found it MUCH cheaper here - https://retrogame300.com/products/rg350 (https://retrogame300.com/products/rg350)

Is this legit ?
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: gameblabla on September 30, 2019, 11:02:57 am
found it MUCH cheaper here - https://retrogame300.com/products/rg350 (https://retrogame300.com/products/rg350)

Is this legit ?
It got delayed up to mid october on that website and they said that all RG-350 were backordered apparently, same as Aliexpress.
Though some people got their RG-300 from that website, so yeah, you can order it from that if aliexpress does not have them anymore.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: sirdrak on September 30, 2019, 12:28:03 pm
Mine is here now  :)

(https://i.imgur.com/HEp6gLO.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/YVLDrEP.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/XSco4mA.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/4Nq2VSO.jpg)

A quick video testing Crash Bandicoot 2 on the PSX emu:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2ktPN7dDIo
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: 1876 on September 30, 2019, 01:22:09 pm
sirdrak, where did you order from, and does the right stick get in the way when using the b-button?
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: sirdrak on September 30, 2019, 01:32:46 pm
sirdrak, where did you order from, and does the right stick get in the way when using the b-button?

My order is from Aliexpress' Anbernic official store, here: https://es.aliexpress.com/item/4000112234837.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.c36263c0dveHwZ (https://es.aliexpress.com/item/4000112234837.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.c36263c0dveHwZ)

Surprinsingly, the right stick doesn't get in the way and i can play confortably. Very good feelings with the console...
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: 1876 on September 30, 2019, 02:10:14 pm
Good to hear, cheers for the info. :)
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: Panja on September 30, 2019, 02:37:35 pm
Hello everyone.
   Another retro handheld console came out.You can choose one more for the retro handheld console. We are about to sell the GKD350 retro handheld console. Performance is higher than RG350.

Any news on the GKD350?
When will it be available?
Please tell us more about the processor, maybe some pictures?
What will be the price?
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: iball on September 30, 2019, 03:57:52 pm
Hello everyone.
   Another retro handheld console came out.You can choose one more for the retro handheld console. We are about to sell the GKD350 retro handheld console. Performance is higher than RG350.

Any news on the GKD350?
When will it be available?
Please tell us more about the processor, maybe some pictures?
What will be the price?

How can the "performance is higher than RG350" on the GDK350 when they both use the same exact chipset?
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: jbanes on September 30, 2019, 04:21:58 pm
How can the "performance is higher than RG350" on the GDK350 when they both use the same exact chipset?
The GDK350 supposedly uses the JZ4780 (1.2GHz), which is a generation later than the JZ4770 (1.0GHz) used by the RG350. The JZ4780 supposedly includes a more powerful GPU (PowerVR vs. Vivante G850) and twice as much L1 & L2 cache as the JZ4770.

Basically, the JZ4780 is the most bad-ass MIPS chip that Ingenic makes. It's also a chip we've not seen in production since the only known use back in 2014; An SBC "creator" board competing with the Raspberry Pi. This lack of chips and software support in the wild suggests the GKD350 claims are a bit on the outlandish side. Love to see them ship the chip, but I'll believe it when I see it.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: Nikojiro on September 30, 2019, 06:12:14 pm
Interesting, this device might be interesting, then.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: pcercuei on September 30, 2019, 07:16:58 pm
I don't think it's a JZ4780. They said 1.5 GHz, which matches the M200 better (1.2 GHz + 300 MHz dual-core).
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: jbanes on September 30, 2019, 09:49:02 pm
I don't think it's a JZ4780. They said 1.5 GHz, which matches the M200 better (1.2 GHz + 300 MHz dual-core).
By that logic it could be a JZ4770 at "1GHz CPU + 500MHz VC-1/VP8 core". If it's actually an M200 running at 1.2GHz it would be just as welcome. Though both chips have both been mostly MIA for the last 5 years. I haven't heard that M200 supplies have been any better than JZ4780.

FWIW, I had explicitly heard the board was supposed to have a JZ4780 chip. Of course, that's hearsay, so we'll see what they actually come out with.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: pcercuei on September 30, 2019, 10:09:49 pm
It could very well be a JZ4770, yes.
A JZ4780 would be great, but I'll believe it when I see it.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: Jenova on October 01, 2019, 12:43:14 am
Another alternative for USA customers is to preorder from www.dreamesper.com

$90usd + domestic/int'l. shipping cost

Mid-October release.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: LauweLoempia on October 01, 2019, 09:26:49 am
Another alternative for USA customers is to preorder from www.dreamesper.com

$90usd + domestic/int'l. shipping cost

Mid-October release.

whahaha. I would search the forums for dreamesper first  ;)
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: Faust on October 02, 2019, 06:26:58 pm
Another alternative for USA customers is to preorder from www.dreamesper.com

$90usd + domestic/int'l. shipping cost

Mid-October release.
Better don't buy from this lousy reseller. Official aliexpress shop and other aliexpress reseller are the way to go.

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Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: lemmywinks on October 02, 2019, 08:43:33 pm
Another alternative for USA customers is to preorder from www.dreamesper.com

$90usd + domestic/int'l. shipping cost

Mid-October release.

Do not buy from Dreamesper, he's a known scammer and is the scourge of the retro handheld community.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: gameblabla on October 03, 2019, 07:06:28 am
Oh yeah, i must note that the GK350H does not use the JZ4770, M200 or JZ4780 :
It is in fact an almost complete clone of the M200.
It has a single mono core clocked at 1.5 Ghz, supports the MXU & MIPS32r2 (according to kernel) and (as i suspected) lacks a 3D GPU of any kind of like the M200. I'm not sure about cache size but i believe that it should be either 256kb of L2 or 512kb.
Apparently whoever made this cpu thing is GameKiddy but this source says its made by Junzheng instead :
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/6279590671 (https://tieba.baidu.com/p/6279590671)

"Junzheng X1830:
Main frequency: 1.5G, 28nm process, 11x11mm package size
Built-in DDR2 memory, 64X16 (128MB)
Graphics processing: IPU, no GPU
No HDMI and AV interface"
"Because the 350H motherboard does not have DDR2 memory, it is using the built-in 128MB DDR2 of the CPU."

Yeah, it only has 128MB of DDR2 ram. Don't expect to go full out on MAME and huge arcade roms thx.

I feel very mixed about this finding and i'm almost certain they won't release the kernel source code for it either.
It's possible that they made this clone due to supply issues of the JZ4770.

So yeah, don't expect to run Mupen64Plus on it because it simply lacks a GPU for it. However, the extra CPU power might be more interesting for some heavy SNES games. It can also mostly handle games like MGS well as you may have seen from other videos.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: ace9094 on October 03, 2019, 08:14:16 am

Yeah, it only has 128MB of DDR2 ram. Don't expect to go full out on MAME and huge arcade roms thx.


OH wow... I thought it was 512MB of DDR2 :(
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: fosamax on October 03, 2019, 08:28:13 am
By looking at the link gameblabla kindly posted, it seems they are making a 512MB SWAP on the SD Card, which will be slow as hell.

That being said, both first Xbox and PSP were able to achieve pretty good emulation for larger arcade games by using cleverly programmed swapped partition.

I still don't really see the point of releasing a device that seems to excel mainly in PSone emulation but without proper L2/R2 buttons.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: fakk3 on October 03, 2019, 11:42:39 am
It has working hdmi/av output?
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: iball on October 04, 2019, 02:41:18 am
I still don't really see the point of releasing a device that seems to excel mainly in PSone emulation but without proper L2/R2 buttons.

This.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: slaanesh on October 04, 2019, 04:50:49 am
"Because the 350H motherboard does not have DDR2 memory, it is using the built-in 128MB DDR2 of the CPU."

Yeah, it only has 128MB of DDR2 ram. Don't expect to go full out on MAME and huge arcade roms thx.

128MB is fine for most MAME games (circa Mame 084), most likely whatever is larger than this can't be handled by the CPU anyway.

I ordered my RG-350 so once I've tested it with XMAME 2.0 I will release something for it and a couple other Platforms.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: Jellyfish on October 04, 2019, 05:24:50 am
Can someone please vouch for (or shoot down) RetroGame300.com as a seller (of the RG350)? No one on eBay carries it yet, and AliExpress (the apparent preferred source) doesn't like PayPal.  Thanks
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: exorio on October 04, 2019, 07:42:20 am
Can someone please vouch for (or shoot down) RetroGame300.com as a seller (of the RG350)? No one on eBay carries it yet, and AliExpress (the apparent preferred source) doesn't like PayPal.  Thanks

really? for refunds the sellers on aliexpress mostly ask for paypal

those damn bastards

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Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: Jellyfish on October 04, 2019, 06:59:38 pm
Well consider me misinformed. I'll just ask Anbernic for their relevant info. Thank You.
EDIT: Oops my bad. The error is on my end, for using Firefox with adblock broke AliExpress. Chrome worked fine, though.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: exorio on October 05, 2019, 04:22:09 am
Well consider me misinformed. I'll just ask Anbernic for their relevant info. Thank You.
EDIT: Oops my bad. The error is on my end, for using Firefox with adblock broke AliExpress. Chrome worked fine, though.

It was a joke dude

As far as I know paypal isn't accessible in China

thus any seller there who wants to refund you through paypal are often want to scam you and to avoid bad rating from aliexpress

I got scammed once with that modus operandi, luckily it was a cheap stuff. Think it was a handphone case, less than $5.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: Kozinenko2 on October 05, 2019, 02:13:54 pm
Friends, please tell me what is known about the defective party RG 350?  I ordered a copy for myself and it is already coming to me, I hope it will be of good quality.  And the second question is, can we wait for updates and adding new emulators?  I'm interested in the J2ME emulator of old button games from mobile phones.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: Jellyfish on October 05, 2019, 11:48:49 pm
Thanks exorio. I'll just wait then.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: indask8 on October 06, 2019, 09:55:15 am
Can someone please vouch for (or shoot down) RetroGame300.com as a seller (of the RG350)? No one on eBay carries it yet, and AliExpress (the apparent preferred source) doesn't like PayPal.  Thanks

I've preordered mine in early september, back then we didn't knew the RG350 would be availlable in different colors, today they've sent an email asking me what colour I want (or more precisely, telling us the three color options and asking us to mail them back with our choice).
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: Jutleys on October 06, 2019, 11:29:39 am
UK buyers RG-350 use my code RETROJUT for 10% off. Fast delivery & ship worldwide. https://droidbox.co.uk/droix-retrogame-rg350-handheld.html
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: 1876 on October 07, 2019, 02:52:36 pm
I watched the RG350 video by Taki Udon:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzRXx534qHE&lc

Someone in the comment section is mentioning a teardown of the device which reveals the wire routing is terrible and the battery is attached to the cpu directly. Should this be cause for concern?
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: slaanesh on October 08, 2019, 01:06:14 am
At the speed with which these devices come out this wouldn't surprise me.

I'm thinking if you want something that is well engineered check out Pyra! :)
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: iball on October 08, 2019, 02:04:34 am
I'm thinking if you want something that is well engineered check out Pyra! :)
What decade is that coming out again?
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: slaanesh on October 08, 2019, 02:08:55 am
I'm thinking if you want something that is well engineered check out Pyra! :)
What decade is that coming out again?
Agreed... If I'd backed it when pre-orders first opened up I'd be wondering WTF by now.

I backed Pandora when it was opened up for pre-orders but I luckily got my unit almost as soon as the first units were ready.
From pre-order to getting it didn't seem to take that long. Though, I believe that some people never actually got their unit at all.

Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: 1876 on October 08, 2019, 06:17:01 am
At the speed with which these devices come out this wouldn't surprise me.

I'm thinking if you want something that is well engineered check out Pyra! :)
Thanks for the recommendation. :D

Nah I was more concerned of the safety of the RG 350 device and whether the battery will be OK. Hopefully everything will be fine. Was just wondering after I read the Youtube comment if this was something to be concerned about. :)
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: Reds on October 08, 2019, 07:47:56 am
At the speed with which these devices come out this wouldn't surprise me.

I'm thinking if you want something that is well engineered check out Pyra! :)
Thanks for the recommendation. :D

Nah I was more concerned of the safety of the RG 350 device and whether the battery will be OK. Hopefully everything will be fine. Was just wondering after I read the Youtube comment if this was something to be concerned about. :)

I don't know about the wiring, although I haven't heard any complaints about it from people so far, but the CPU is placed under the battery which is attached to the back of the shell. I don't know if it's actually touching the battery, but it's close.

The thing is, the GCW as far as I can tell did the same thing and as somebody who stuffed a much larger battery into his unit than the default one, so far it hasn't had any heating problems. It was a potential concern in the leadup to release but so far people like Taki have completely ran down their batteries while playing at full CPU output, and there haven't been any overheating problems. It's something that you may want to keep in mind, but no problems have been reported yet.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: 1876 on October 08, 2019, 09:50:24 am
Great bit of information there, Reds. Now I am not so worried any more. Thank you. :)
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: pcercuei on October 08, 2019, 12:07:51 pm
Even at full CPU for minutes, you can still put your finger on the CPU chip, it's not even that hot (40-50?C maybe). Ingenic chips are great for that.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: indask8 on October 10, 2019, 08:02:27 am
My order from retrogame300 has shipped this morning, I chose the Crystal Black version.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: Jenova on October 10, 2019, 08:58:23 am
it's confirmed that the RG350 now comes in 3 unique colors? Awesome!
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: iball on October 10, 2019, 08:27:40 pm
My order from retrogame300 has shipped this morning, I chose the Crystal Black version.
I chose the plain black version and am still waiting on it to be shipped from them.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: Nikojiro on October 11, 2019, 10:34:22 am
Someone in the comment section is mentioning a teardown of the device which reveals the wire routing is terrible and the battery is attached to the cpu directly. Should this be cause for concern?

I opened mine to flash the 1.0 FW update when I received it. Here's a picture: (https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=16B_Ack9IM6Cvbd_spTSX3tJpqdCVHcGr)

Seems rather clean to me, I'll let you make your own judgement.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: ace9094 on October 12, 2019, 12:28:39 am
Hi all,

Which romset should I use for X-MAME Arcade Emulator on the RG350?

Thanks
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: Tron2k on October 12, 2019, 06:00:28 am

I opened mine to flash the 1.0 FW update when I received it.

Seems rather clean to me, I'll let you make your own judgement.

Nice, thanks for the post. Looks easier to work with than the gcw0, had problems lining the shoulder buttons back up in the past. Swapping that battery out looks straightforward.

When did you get yours and where? Im expecting mine mid october from retrogame300's main webpage.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: iball on October 12, 2019, 06:04:33 am
Nice, thanks for the post. Looks easier to work with than the gcw0, had problems lining the shoulder buttons back up in the past. Swapping that battery out looks straightforward.

When did you get yours and where? Im expecting mine mid october from retrogame300's main webpage.

I emailed retrogame300 about shipping dates and they replied that mine would be shipping next week.
We shall see...
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: Tron2k on October 12, 2019, 06:10:14 am

I emailed retrogame300 about shipping dates and they replied that mine would be shipping next week.
We shall see...

Thanks for the info, I didnt want to bug them after I already asked if it was shipping with the new FWupdate pre-installed, they told me yes.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: 1876 on October 12, 2019, 07:13:53 am
Even at full CPU for minutes, you can still put your finger on the CPU chip, it's not even that hot (40-50?C maybe). Ingenic chips are great for that
That's good to hear, thank you for that.


I opened mine to flash the 1.0 FW update when I received it.

Seems rather clean to me, I'll let you make your own judgement.
Thank you for posting the picture, much appreciated. Looks good to me. :)

Thinking of ordering one from droidbox in the UK when I have decided on the colour heheh.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: 02k0 on October 12, 2019, 07:29:41 am
RetroArch emulation??

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Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: ace9094 on October 13, 2019, 12:28:11 am
RetroArch emulation??

The GCW had an Alpha build of RetroArch but not sure how good it was... Maybe the RetroArch team will consider compiling a version for the RG350... I reckon the RG350 will be more popular and accessible / affordable than the GCW was. But that said, I dont know, I am just guessing really....  :-X

Anyone know people on the RetroArch Dev team ??  ;)
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: 02k0 on October 13, 2019, 12:44:24 am
RetroArch emulation??

The GCW had an Alpha build of RetroArch but not sure how good it was... Maybe the RetroArch team will consider compiling a version for the RG350... I reckon the RG350 will be more popular and accessible / affordable than the GCW was. But that said, I dont know, I am just guessing really....  :-X

Anyone know people on the RetroArch Dev team ??  ;)


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Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: ace9094 on October 13, 2019, 12:49:22 am
RetroArch emulation??

The GCW had an Alpha build of RetroArch but not sure how good it was... Maybe the RetroArch team will consider compiling a version for the RG350... I reckon the RG350 will be more popular and accessible / affordable than the GCW was. But that said, I dont know, I am just guessing really....  :-X

Anyone know people on the RetroArch Dev team ??  ;)


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I remembered see this video a while back... Maybe there is an OPK kicking about online somewhere... but not sure to be honest

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqp_lcntrEU
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: slaanesh on October 13, 2019, 03:39:39 am
Which romset should I use for X-MAME Arcade Emulator on the RG350?

I don't know how it's been installed on the RG-350 but it supports three versions 0.37b16, 0.69 and 0.84.

To be honest, if you can wait a few days until I get my RG-350 you will be getting a much improved version in the form of  X-MAME v2.0.
It's ROM set has changed a bit and now will be MAME4ALL 2.0, 0.69 and 0.84.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: dgtao on October 13, 2019, 07:06:22 am
hi. I'm getting the RG350, xmame is great. as known you will also have one and update of xmame may be available, so i hope an feature can be added in: rotate -180 degree; then we can use right stick on RG350 to play shooter game like 1945.

someone has already added the feature to FBA, and works fine. I'm expecting it's available in xmame.

thanks for your effort and sharing.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: dgtao on October 13, 2019, 07:06:49 am
Which romset should I use for X-MAME Arcade Emulator on the RG350?

I don't know how it's been installed on the RG-350 but it supports three versions 0.37b16, 0.69 and 0.84.

To be honest, if you can wait a few days until I get my RG-350 you will be getting a much improved version in the form of  X-MAME v2.0.
It's ROM set has changed a bit and now will be MAME4ALL 2.0, 0.69 and 0.84.

hi. I'm getting the RG350, xmame is great. as known you will also have one and update of xmame may be available, so i hope an feature can be added in: rotate -180 degree; then we can use right stick on RG350 to play shooter game like 1945.

someone has already added the feature to FBA, and works fine. I'm expecting it's available in xmame.

thanks for your effort and sharing.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: slaanesh on October 13, 2019, 09:40:16 am
hi. I'm getting the RG350, xmame is great. as known you will also have one and update of xmame may be available, so i hope an feature can be added in: rotate -180 degree; then we can use right stick on RG350 to play shooter game like 1945.

An interesting idea! I will add it in! :)
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: eltehero on October 13, 2019, 09:43:59 am
Which romset should I use for X-MAME Arcade Emulator on the RG350?

I don't know how it's been installed on the RG-350 but it supports three versions 0.37b16, 0.69 and 0.84.

To be honest, if you can wait a few days until I get my RG-350 you will be getting a much improved version in the form of  X-MAME v2.0.
It's ROM set has changed a bit and now will be MAME4ALL 2.0, 0.69 and 0.84.

Very nice to see the RG350 will get X-MAME 2.0 development.

Will you check how your original GCW0 X-MAME port runs and performs on the RG350 and make any improvements (if required) to actually make it at least as good as if not better than the original GCW0 version?
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: slaanesh on October 13, 2019, 09:46:55 am
The RG-350 and GCW-Zero are effectively the same hardware.

I will add support for a second analog joystick and the 180 degree rotation.

Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: michaelpegaso on October 13, 2019, 03:10:48 pm
The RG-350 and GCW-Zero are effectively the same hardware.

I will add support for a second analog joystick and the 180 degree rotation.

Very good news, I hope you get the rg350 fast ;)
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: 8bit on October 15, 2019, 05:05:51 am
If you're in the UK, Amazon have these available for next-day delivery. Mine was despatched earlier this morning, to arrive with me today.

Only the White model with Purple buttons from this seller ATM, but if you want one quickly, this is a good option at GBP 79.99.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Upgraded-Opening-Handheld-Console-Portable/dp/B07VKJNYYH/ref=sr_1_19?keywords=anbernic&qid=1571112289&sr=8-19
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: ace9094 on October 15, 2019, 02:51:23 pm
If you're in the UK, Amazon have these available for next-day delivery. Mine was despatched earlier this morning, to arrive with me today.

Only the White model with Purple buttons from this seller ATM, but if you want one quickly, this is a good option at GBP 79.99.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Upgraded-Opening-Handheld-Console-Portable/dp/B07VKJNYYH/ref=sr_1_19?keywords=anbernic&qid=1571112289&sr=8-19

Nice find.... Worth it in my opinion...
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: 8bit on October 15, 2019, 03:46:33 pm
Nice find.... Worth it in my opinion...
Well, it turned up, delivered from Amazon around mid-day and I'm pleasantly surprised. The price seems to be around the same as other sellers advertising on Amazon, who are quoting expected stock late October.

I've seen a few unboxing videos and some of the units have turned up with an empty MicroSD card slot. Mine arrived with a 32GB card in the external slot. Removing this doesn't stop the RG350 from booting. The OS is held on an internal MicroSD.

Pretty sure you can guess what's on the card in the external slot?

It seems to run the demo of Quake2 at a reasonable rate, though I've yet to play-test it.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: dgtao on October 16, 2019, 02:37:02 pm
The RG-350 and GCW-Zero are effectively the same hardware.

I will add support for a second analog joystick and the 180 degree rotation.

thanks for your support. and another suggestion, the default button to call out menu can set to the power button of RG350.

wish you get your device soon. have a nice day!
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: 02k0 on October 18, 2019, 06:23:41 pm
RG350 bug:

https://youtu.be/Z4HZsHV8SFo

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Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: daddylonglegs on October 23, 2019, 04:42:24 pm
I just received mine yesterday. So far I love it. Only complaint is the screen has a small speck of dust on it. Is there any way to get it off? Maybe using a suction cup to pry off the glass lens? I just want to make sure I won't break anything if I do that.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: michaelpegaso on October 23, 2019, 10:19:21 pm
I just received mine yesterday. So far I love it. Only complaint is the screen has a small speck of dust on it. Is there any way to get it off? Maybe using a suction cup to pry off the glass lens? I just want to make sure I won't break anything if I do that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vArGX3ru9Q8
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: daddylonglegs on October 24, 2019, 11:36:01 am
I just received mine yesterday. So far I love it. Only complaint is the screen has a small speck of dust on it. Is there any way to get it off? Maybe using a suction cup to pry off the glass lens? I just want to make sure I won't break anything if I do that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vArGX3ru9Q8

Woah, thanks so much!
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: daddylonglegs on October 24, 2019, 12:10:54 pm
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but how do I turn the device off, in sleep mode? For example, I am playing a Super Nintendo game but want to turn the thing off and put it in my pocket. Pressing the power button does not do anything. If I hold the power button, it turns the whole system off. Is there any way to just put the console in a "sleep" mode so that I can resume from where I left off?
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: ace9094 on October 24, 2019, 08:46:18 pm
Sorry if this is a stupid question, but how do I turn the device off, in sleep mode? For example, I am playing a Super Nintendo game but want to turn the thing off and put it in my pocket. Pressing the power button does not do anything. If I hold the power button, it turns the whole system off. Is there any way to just put the console in a "sleep" mode so that I can resume from where I left off?

I just use the Save State function... Most of the emulators have one. You can save your game anywhere, then just turn it off... But I get what you mean. If the screen is off you should get quite a lot of battery life even if the device is on. Its the screen that burns most battery.

May be buy a little case to keep it in so you don't knock the button to wake the screen?
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: michaelpegaso on October 25, 2019, 10:28:28 pm
Dang it I missed it! They only had 30 and they're gone!


Can someone save me one? I want to get XMAME 2.0 on this ASAP! :)

hello, how's that xmame 2.0 project going? You still don't have the rg350 ??
In discord he has a box full of rg350, which a TonyJih sends you;)
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: slaanesh on October 27, 2019, 01:22:28 am
hello, how's that xmame 2.0 project going? You still don't have the rg350 ??
In discord he has a box full of rg350, which a TonyJih sends you;)
According to tracking info I should get mine in the next 2 days.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: michaelpegaso on October 27, 2019, 09:23:02 am
hello, how's that xmame 2.0 project going? You still don't have the rg350 ??
In discord he has a box full of rg350, which a TonyJih sends you;)
According to tracking info I should get mine in the next 2 days.

Good News
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: slaanesh on October 28, 2019, 10:32:16 pm
Okay my RG-350 has arrived, what a beauty! I love it already, though I didn't get much time.

I did try XMAME v2.0 and can confirm that so far it's working very nicely.

I'm just going to tweak a few things over the next couple days and then will release something.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: michaelpegaso on October 29, 2019, 12:07:42 am
Okay my RG-350 has arrived, what a beauty! I love it already, though I didn't get much time.

I did try XMAME v2.0 and can confirm that so far it's working very nicely.

I'm just going to tweak a few things over the next couple days and then will release something.

F5 ....  ;D
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: indask8 on October 29, 2019, 06:07:48 pm
I've received mine today (shipped 10th of October)

One speck of dust behind the screen :'( (does not really bother me, barely visible with the system turned on) , other than that, all good.

EDIT : Has anyone experienced random slowdown ? looks like the system runs fine and then slowsdown for a few sec.
I'm on base firmware 1.5, kernel from the 21st of oct.

Base firmware 1.4 states slowdown were fixed on some systems...  :-\

I suspect it's my microSD, I've replaced it immediately with a suspicious "samsung" 32gb one from china.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: Timika on November 02, 2019, 09:42:53 am
Hello community, I recently received my rg350 but it is impossible for me to connect to my old windows 7, the driver is not found. Is it possible to download it manually? Thank you in advance, good day / evening.

Ps: excuse my approximate english, i'm french.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: joncfc on November 02, 2019, 05:54:22 pm
You will be better off using the sd card at the moment.

https://github.com/retrogamehandheld/RG-350/wiki/Connecting-to-your-PC (https://github.com/retrogamehandheld/RG-350/wiki/Connecting-to-your-PC)
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: Timika on November 04, 2019, 06:24:11 am
Thanks, I will try tonight :)
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: daddylonglegs on November 04, 2019, 11:12:19 pm
Does the 350H have a better quality screen than the RG-350?
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: zmanz on November 08, 2019, 03:37:17 am
Got my RG350 this week (took only two weeks) so I was impressed w/ the shipping time from China.  So far, I'm loving it for consoles.  Can anyone point to any guides or info on MAME or FBA, info is very scarce on arcade and neogeo still from what I can tell.  emulator versions, what romset version(s), folder names and locations for placing files, ... 

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Bring on the RG-350 (jz4770 based) handheld
Post by: Kinggodcul on November 09, 2019, 03:00:50 am
Thank you always. Currently testing at 350.
The LR button does not work in xmame1.3. 6 button game is not working well.
And the most curious thing is how to make a snapshot.
 I want to know the format of an existing snapshot.
4bit image converting is difficult and snapshot image is insufficient and I want to make it myself.


Okay my RG-350 has arrived, what a beauty! I love it already, though I didn't get much time.

I did try XMAME v2.0 and can confirm that so far it's working very nicely.

I'm just going to tweak a few things over the next couple days and then will release something.