Author Topic: What do you think of this new 7 inch laptop? (Read 34364 times)

n1ckn4m3 · « **Reply #40 on:** January 06, 2017, 07:56:20 pm »

Personally, not terribly interested. I liked the GPD WIN as more of a compromise -- it has gaming controls in addition to a keyboard, tradeoff being that the layout of everything is less than spectacular in order to achieve both goals.

I'm not really in the market for a pocket-sized PC itself, I'm more in it for mobile gaming.

But that's just me! Others in the UMPC market would probably notably prefer this to the GPD WIN because if you don't use the gaming controls, the tradeoff is steep.

Jutleys · « **Reply #41 on:** January 06, 2017, 08:58:18 pm »

If it runs Android I would be interested.

PowerLion1 · « **Reply #42 on:** January 07, 2017, 12:29:55 am »

One thing I was wondering is if it's a 7 inch display, how can it be only slightly bigger than the GPD Win?

Calculator

16:10 1920x1200
17.78 cm 7 in.

Screen (w x h)
150 x 94 mm | 5.94" x 3.71"

I used the "Perspective Correction" and resize tools in PaintShop Pro to determine the estimated size of the shell.
I CAN see it being ONLY slightly larger than the GPD Win.

Pocket Size (Estimated):	172.64 x 104.10 mm	6.80" x 4.10"
GPD Win Size (Measured):	155 x 97 mm	6.10" x 3.82"

So, It's only around 18 x 7 mm bigger than the GPD Win if my calculations are correct and no changes are made to the current design.

Seeing that, it makes it somewhat desireable IF I didn't have a GPD Win.

As some said. the power button is in a really bad location.

Also, I would recommend an optical mouse use like the Lenovo N5902.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk6W1gU7zr4

<a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190314184153/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk6W1gU7zr4" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hk6W1gU7zr4</a>

Saber · « **Reply #43 on:** January 07, 2017, 12:38:44 am »

Not to dance with the Devil, but the "Pocket" will sell for sure if kept as it is in the renders. There is much to respect here. If GPD were ambitious enough and modified some of the keyboard keys it would be improved over the current subpar design(as both a handheld and a tabletop pc).

ohno · « **Reply #44 on:** January 07, 2017, 03:21:32 am »

YES.
I want this.

I was one of the first (order number <10) preorders on the Indiegogo page.
I also sold my GPD WIN after the first week of receiving it.

(I think they did a great job making delivery ?on time?, although the order of which some people received them was a little disappointing. But the product actually got made, I received it, and it was exactly what I ordered. Yay.)

I didn?t need a gaming device ? I needed an admin device. I wanted something to boot into linux, remote into other devices, run local VMs.
I needed something I could actually type on ? trying to type in anything using my thumbs on the GPD WIN was just too slow. Don?t get me wrong ? I received a perfectly working model, the gaming controls and experience was cool. I just didn?t need it for that.

YES to this type of small netbook model.

Looking at the renders ?

1.   I would do away with the power button on the top right, and put the backspace button somewhere along there.
2.   Make the power button a switch or recessed button along the side, something you?d need to use a thumbnail to turn on to prevent accidentally hitting it.
3.   Give 8gb RAM
4.   Another USB type A
5.   Wifi card that supports monitoring, injection

My main concerns would be the battery, and perhaps the keyboard is still too small to type on effectively? but yah I?d pick one of these up.

kendyzhu777 · « **Reply #45 on:** January 07, 2017, 06:59:14 am »

Quote from: skelton on January 04, 2017, 10:08:45 am

I would prefer dualos with native Android and win10 for current gpd win. I can collaborate with kernel if you like.

A gpd xd 2 would be nice Too, but I suppose you are still waiting for rk3399, right? Or hace you considered other alternative like some New mtk processor?

The new product will run Windows 10 or Ubuntu 16.04 LTS
And for GPD XD 2,YES. we are waiting for a suitable processor now.^^

kendyzhu777 · « **Reply #46 on:** January 07, 2017, 07:00:25 am »

Quote from: Maniac on January 04, 2017, 10:50:48 am

For a device like this, I wouldn't go over a 6", or maybe even 5.5", screen. 7" is too big, it can't fit in your pocket. 1366x768 is probably the ideal resolution.

Actually, it can indeed be put into the pocket.
It is slightly larger than GPD WIN, and because it employs CNC integrated color aluminum process,
with extremely narrow frame with 7-inch screen design, also it has QWERTY keyboard,
so that the overall layout is very compact and tiny.And very easy to type and carry,it must be convenient for daily work.

kendyzhu777 · « **Reply #47 on:** January 07, 2017, 07:15:40 am »

Quote from: nex86 on January 04, 2017, 03:24:14 pm

I like the idea, but why does it have to look so much like a Macbook?
I'd love a Netbook with those specs and an aluminium body but I think it should be at least 8"

PS: and it has more ports than a 12" Macbook haha love it ^^

Thanks for support.
Because We still hope can extrude the portability.so i think a 7 inch screen should be the suitable display.

vcoleiro1 · « **Reply #48 on:** January 07, 2017, 07:15:46 am »

Quote from: kendyzhu777 on January 07, 2017, 07:00:25 am

Quote from: Maniac on January 04, 2017, 10:50:48 am
For a device like this, I wouldn't go over a 6", or maybe even 5.5", screen. 7" is too big, it can't fit in your pocket. 1366x768 is probably the ideal resolution.

Actually, it can indeed be put into the pocket.
It is slightly larger than GPD WIN, and because it employs CNC integrated color aluminum process,
with extremely narrow frame with 7-inch screen design, also it has QWERTY keyboard,
so that the overall layout is very compact and tiny.And very easy to type and carry,it must be convenient for daily work.

I think a lot of concern in this thread is focussed on if it actually would be pocketable, seeing since pocketable means different things to different people.

Kendy , can you provide the planned dimensions of the GPD Pocket?

Without the dimensions, the question of whether it is or isn't pocketable will just be an endless and sidetracking debate in this thread. Providing the rough planned dimensions will settle the issue and give people a better understanding if to them, it will be pocketable.

Also, please provide a good view of the keyboard so that we can see all the keys. A top down view would be preferred. As it stands now , I can see as others have, some major issues. ie like the power button being in the spot where the backspace should be. The problem there being that people instinctively would hit that key expecting it to be the backspace. The Delete key is also in a very weird spot, buried between two other keys. And the Backspace button placement near the right mouse button is terrible.

But that aside, there is no clear photo of the keyboard. In the top photo , because of the photo angle, some keys are impossible to see. It also looks like there are blank keys on the left side.

kendyzhu777 · « **Reply #49 on:** January 07, 2017, 07:34:20 am »

Guys,Please check the following pictures.

You can hold it in one hand and put it into your pocket.
And it also can realize the hands type.^^

kendyzhu777 · « **Reply #50 on:** January 07, 2017, 08:02:30 am »

Here is the latest layout of keyboard.
For the location of power button and delete.you all can check it as your kind reference.
Totally don't need to worry about the wrong operation.
Because Power button is a metal pot button structure, You need to taking great efforts to press down,
The press strength is totally different with other key.

scatsy · « **Reply #51 on:** January 07, 2017, 08:15:53 am »

I dont know what to think about this product. As a consumer i dont see it very usefull. But i will Try to see it as a proffesional. I am photographer and filmmaker, also i am a teacher of both things, looking at that side i can see proffesional uses that I see in the gpd-win, I edited heavy photos in my Win without problem and i believe that is very Interesting to take all the notes of the classes in the device (text and videos) actually that is what i do with a "Teclast Kindow" a tablet with Windows and Android wich size is 7.5"

But at the end i think that are many devices very similar to this mini laptop. One big difference that you can do, is adding two usb 3.1 full size ports. When i am shooting a film i need to backup the footage many times and if i have a device like this (the Teclast that I mentioned earlier is not worth it for this pulpos e size it have only 4GB of free Memory). With this device i could shoot the film, make the backup and copy to another Hard disk "on the fly" and take less time in the proccess, Also, since the device is powerful, I think you could make edits at the moment.

All this, from a professional point of view, of course

In short, add two full-size and fast usb ports, and I would buy the device with my eyes closed

Pd: Oh And if you can add a mini-projector, better

vcoleiro1 · « **Reply #52 on:** January 07, 2017, 08:29:56 am »

Quote from: kendyzhu777 on January 07, 2017, 08:02:30 am

Here is the latest layout of keyboard.
For the location of power button and delete.you all can check it as your kind reference.
Totally don't need to worry about the wrong operation.
Because Power button is a metal pot button structure, You need to taking great efforts to press down,
The press strength is totally different with other key.

The issue isn't actually pressing the power button and turning it off ( although that is part of it). The issue is that people with any experience using a QWERTY keyboard would instinctively look to hit the key in that position expecting it to be Backspace. Since Backspace is a key people use all the time, putting it near the right mouse button and having the power button in its natural place - is absolutely what you should not do.

I would swap the Del key and +/= keys and put the Backspace where the Power button is - where it should be

Find a different spot for the power button

Also, how do you hit F7-F12 and PgUp, Dwn, Home and End keys. There is no function key? Are they used with the Shift key? Why are they color coded ?

As I said, the keyboard has some major issues.

Faust · « **Reply #53 on:** January 07, 2017, 08:52:20 am »

Even the GPD WIN's keyboard is better.

The A key and the one beside is a bit Wierd, the same for Ctrl key, this wasted space, you should change it (Fn button besides Ctrl key, and Cap Lock besides A key?)

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kendyzhu777 · « **Reply #54 on:** January 07, 2017, 09:41:23 am »

Thanks so much for the kind recommendations of keyboard.
Please check the latest keyboard layout blow:

zurueck · « **Reply #55 on:** January 07, 2017, 10:11:18 am »

You must redesign keyboard layout! Its most important thing in this netbook. Now the layout looks completely absolutely unusable.

Power key need to move from the keyboard block, making it concave or like in samsung ultrabooks, excluding any accidental pressing.
Keys "Tab", "Del", "+ =", "PrnScr Insert", "Backspace" not in their right places.
I agree with the opinion that the arrangement of keys on a keyboard block GPD WIN is much better, because it is not very different from the standard keyboard layouts.
Do not ignore criticism of other people about keyboard layout, at least now.

Screen size 7 "is too large, 6" or 6.44" like in Xiaomi Mi Max would have been better for everyday wear in typical pocket.

zurueck · « **Reply #56 on:** January 07, 2017, 10:49:04 am »

Quote from: kendyzhu777 on January 07, 2017, 09:41:23 am

Position of "Esc", "CapsLock", "Del" now seems OK.

"Backspace" must be in upper position. At current position of "Backspace" must be "+ =".
It is necessary to change the position of the Tab, now it is not very comfortable. I have no idea about best place, unless shrink "| \", a series of buttons from "Q" to "P" move bit to the right, and put "Tab" to the right, above "CapsLock".
Position of "~`" and " "' " little weird.

"Compressed" buttons "<,", ">.", "?/" and "{[", "}]", ":;" also not ok, but on other compact keyboards or compact devices its too inconvenient. Probably can be improved.

I'll show a variant of a better layout in my opinion in the edited image.

zdanee · « **Reply #57 on:** January 07, 2017, 11:26:56 am »

Quote from: zurueck on January 07, 2017, 10:49:04 am

Quote from: kendyzhu777 on January 07, 2017, 09:41:23 am
Position of "Esc", "CapsLock", "Del" now seems OK.

"Backspace" must be in upper position. At current position of "Backspace" must be "+ =".
It is necessary to change the position of the Tab, now it is not very comfortable. I have no idea about best place, unless shrink "| \", a series of buttons from "Q" to "P" move bit to the right, and put "Tab" to the right, above "CapsLock".
Position of "~`" and " "' " little weird.

"Compressed" buttons "<,", ">.", "?/" and "{[", "}]", ":;" also not ok, but on other compact keyboards or compact devices its too inconvenient. Probably can be improved.

I'll show a variant of a better layout in my opinion in the edited image.

Almost there!
Drop the pause/break button, nobody uses that (or make it an Fn function), shift PrintScreen and delete left one button, and make backspace double-long!

zurueck · « **Reply #58 on:** January 07, 2017, 11:54:00 am »

Quote from: zdanee on January 07, 2017, 11:26:56 am

Also a good option, but have an additional button which is easy to assign to any useful function in the OS or applications may be helpful.

Also need to think about the docking station or correct support USB Type C Alternate mode Display Port and charging in the same time.

Another also - is 177.80mm x 92.60mm size of whole device or only keyboard? If only keyboard - device have sizes
just about 182mm and 106mm. It's totally hardly pocketable.

Saber · « **Reply #59 on:** January 07, 2017, 12:11:52 pm »

Quote from: kendyzhu777 on January 07, 2017, 09:41:23 am

Thanks so much for the kind recommendations of keyboard.
Please check the latest keyboard layout blow:

Wow, you actually do know how to take suggestions(and respond mostly to other's inquiries). Anyways, yes, that layout is an improvement over the original but still it needs some work.

-Some points-
1. F1-F12 are a waste of precious keys when you have to huddle, by necessity in this design, punctuation and symbols. F1-F12 should be where they traditionally are under Fn. This will give six extra keys to work with(for say brightness, volume, PrintScreen or such).
2. The mouse "pointing stick" shouldn't be so low to the bottom edge for comfort's sake, but should be above the B and under the G and H centered like on an HP Thinkpad. Think of how the fingers usually sit as they navigate a keyboard.
3. Tab should naturally be under ESC.
4. Maybe a not so popular option too would be to put Delete as Fn with Backspace to tidy it up there so - and + can be next to each other(and [ ] \ can be above to the upper left of them). Backspace(and Fn Delete) would then be the key just above Enter.

One more thing Kendy is you mean to say the word "Below" not "Blow" as in "Please check the latest keyboard layout below".

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/below?s=t [/list]