Author Topic: What do you think of this new 7 inch laptop?  (Read 39350 times)

Saber

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Re: What do you think of this new 7 inch laptop?
« Reply #200 on: February 13, 2017, 10:06:31 pm »
Hey everyone, I came here after seeing the Liliputing article about the GPD Pocket.  I happens that I'm also a long time GP32 GP2x, and GCW-Zero fan.

I'm looking at the keyboard layout of this device on GPD's website (it seems they have had several iterations of the keyboard layout), and I'm a little concerned about some of the design choices.

I'm referring to this one:  https://c1.iggcdn.com/indiegogo-media-prod-cld/image/upload/c_limit,w_620/v1484741128/awvrakhfk4qnblwqiwrl.jpg

The design makes several compromises that I feel are unnecessary, and it also assumes that certain keys need to be included on a keyboard of this size.

I design and build custom mechanical keyboards as a hobby, and I have some experience in "living with" certain small keyboard layouts, and I can make several suggestions based on having built and "lived with" these small keyboards:

- You don't need 2 sets of Ctrl/alt keys.  Lose the Right-hand set
- 2 Shift keys may be nice, but its a bit of a compromise, when you have reduced several keys to a 0.5 or 0.75-width key size.
- The Menu key is worthless.  Its been over a decade since I've pressed that key
- The Capslock key can be tossed.  FN + Shift is easy enough

The reason this design has so many compromises is because it is an "11 column" keyboard.  You need at least 12 columns of keys to stick to a some-what traditional design.  11 columns requires serious compromises.

I've spent some time designing a few layouts of my own.  The 1st one is a 12-column keyboard, just to demonstrate how much more "normal" a keyboard can be with an extra column.  The rest of the designs are 11-column designs.

http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/c85e841a841c7b12559bb776fd8462e6
Respectfully disagree here.  :)

Firstly, a twelfth key column would necessitate shrinking the other normal size keys per row, which isn't a grand conception to behold since the stated objective of the Pocket's keyboard is to be as near dimensionally to a regular laptop's keys as doable in this magnitude. Secondly, as such, removing standard modifiers from their respective established locations is undesired by most users. Besides that, the Pocket is designed to be tapped with both hands, so dual modifier pairs of Shift, Ctrl, and Alt, are favored as always. For me, I like that nothing here is missing or buried, which is a comfort. ;)

LifeIsOnTheWire

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Re: What do you think of this new 7 inch laptop?
« Reply #201 on: February 14, 2017, 01:39:25 am »
I'm not really stuck on the idea of a 12 column keyboard.  11 columns can be done, but you need to let go of some keys.

Id like the luxury of keeping all those keys, but if the tradeoff is that they have to be 0.5 or 0.75 wide keys, I simply won't use those.

And that tiny caps lock key snuggled up against the "A" key, I can guarantee I'll be prying it out of the keyboard when I get tired of accidently hitting it.

I've been using a 40% sized keyboard for a bit, and I've given up so many useless keys, I don't even miss them.

I'm in the middle of wiring up a custom 30% 35 key keyboard right now, you'd be surprised how much functionality you can cram into so few keys when you get creative with the function layers.  https://youtu.be/D8yM-IVX8Fo

I spent some time analyzing my typing habits, and I learned that I never once touch the following keys:

- Right shift
- Right Ctrl and Alt
- Left Windows key (I only ever use Right-win + L/K/P)
- Tilde
- Menu (next to the Right Win key)

I also learned that I rarely use caps lock, and I never touch the left half of the space bar.

I totally respect your desire to have every key you need on it, but I'd encourage you to check out the world of 40% and 60% mechanical keyboards.  I think you'd be impressed at how easily you can get used to a new layout.

vcoleiro1

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Re: What do you think of this new 7 inch laptop?
« Reply #202 on: February 14, 2017, 09:07:18 pm »
The GPD Pocket is scheduled to go live on Indiegogo today.  Which means somewhere within the next 19 hours (China time)

Will have to check it out

Saber

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Re: What do you think of this new 7 inch laptop?
« Reply #203 on: February 14, 2017, 10:22:53 pm »
I wonder what they've settled on in regards to the port sequencing along the side of the machine. Pictures abound with variations of where the headphone jack is on the GPD Pocket.

I would prefer too they remove the HDMI port, and substitute it with a micro SDXC slot. USB to HDMI adapters exist after all.

mr.white

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What do you think of this new 7 inch laptop?
« Reply #204 on: February 18, 2017, 01:00:36 pm »
Just wondering if this version would be acting worse in matter of game performance as the GPD Win? I mean it got a much higher resolution 1920x1200 but 4 more gigs of ram.

MOFO

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Re: What do you think of this new 7 inch laptop?
« Reply #205 on: February 18, 2017, 03:42:42 pm »
If you cut the res in half it should perform better than GPD stock 720p screen res when gaming.