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I suppose that software is for USB devices. I guess gpd controls are gpio conected, so gpd is the one who shoudl update the driver in case it can be solved v?a software. For me is a not a great deall, but probably because the gsmes i play are fine, or i just get used to all kimd of controls very easily. I have been 2 hours to ultra stteet fighter and no problems controlling the game. I understand that people are frustrated though if the games they play are hard to play because of this issue.
I will send an email to one of the gpd devs i know to see if he can look into it, but not sure if this developer made something for the win or only in their android devices

Quote from: skelton on November 25, 2016, 09:19:58 pm

I suppose that software is for USB devices. I guess gpd controls are gpio conected, so gpd is the one who shoudl update the driver in case it can be solved v?a software. For me is a not a great deall, but probably because the gsmes i play are fine, or i just get used to all kimd of controls very easily. I have been 2 hours to ultra stteet fighter and no problems controlling the game. I understand that people are frustrated though if the games they play are hard to play because of this issue.
I will send an email to one of the gpd devs i know to see if he can look into it, but not sure if this developer made something for the win or only in their android devices

You must not play competitively. As someone who does and has a few tournament wins under his belt, I would get fucking destroyed by other players with a 20hz polling rate.. Doesn't it feel bad that you're getting crippled and could be winning games that you're losing?

Reply from GPD on my second query is that engineers are looking into optimizing the controller now.  Still very vague, and they are purposely avoiding answering my questions directly, but the more people who query them on it, the more likely we are to see an actual fix or be provided with beta/test firmware/drivers.  Please send an email to kelvin at gpd.hk asking about this if you care about it, every "vote" matters here.

Also, Downsider, totally get your rage, but you should redirect that energy toward helping me get some firmware out of gpd.  Im happy that Skelton is able to play without controller problems, more than 60% of my mobile gaming is fighters though, and they are all virtually unplayable without the stick, which I can't stand using, so, I need your help to get this problem that YOU brought up fixed Lets make it happen, ready BREAK!

Quote from: Downsider on November 26, 2016, 01:19:47 am

Quote from: skelton on November 25, 2016, 09:19:58 pm

I suppose that software is for USB devices. I guess gpd controls are gpio conected, so gpd is the one who shoudl update the driver in case it can be solved v?a software. For me is a not a great deall, but probably because the gsmes i play are fine, or i just get used to all kimd of controls very easily. I have been 2 hours to ultra stteet fighter and no problems controlling the game. I understand that people are frustrated though if the games they play are hard to play because of this issue.
I will send an email to one of the gpd devs i know to see if he can look into it, but not sure if this developer made something for the win or only in their android devices

You must not play competitively. As someone who does and has a few tournament wins under his belt, I would get fucking destroyed by other players with a 20hz polling rate.. Doesn't it feel bad that you're getting crippled and could be winning games that you're losing?

Reply from GPD on my second query is that engineers are looking into optimizing the controller now.  Still very vague, and they are purposely avoiding answering my questions directly, but the more people who query them on it, the more likely we are to see an actual fix or be provided with beta/test firmware/drivers.  Please send an email to kelvin at gpd.hk asking about this if you care about it, every "vote" matters here.

Also, Downsider, totally get your rage, but you should redirect that energy toward helping me get some firmware out of gpd.  Im happy that Skelton is able to play without controller problems, more than 60% of my mobile gaming is fighters though, and they are all virtually unplayable without the stick, which I can't stand using, so, I need your help to get this problem that YOU brought up fixed Lets make it happen, ready BREAK!

Ok, I did my part. I'll let everyone know if they reply something beyond some generic 'we'll look into it'.

What are the chances this is a fixable software problem?
This is currently my number one problem that is holding me back from placing an order.

Just depends on how they implemented their controller microcontroller.  If there is an interface to reflash mountable via a mode adjustment through usb, it should be no problem.  If they flashed the controllers and didn't add any such interface, it would require a new revision (in practical terms) to fix.  Its also possible this is driver related, but I can confirm from testing the usb polling mod driver that the problem is most likely in how frequently the controller itself will send new data when asked.

THis is just a major fuckup... how can they manage to find such a slow polling controller? I mean, they had to order it customized as everything is 125hz or more nowadays...

I don't know if this is related, but I tried Modern Combat 5 from the Windows Store, and the controls feel rubbish. It just seems too slow to play as it seems to take an age to turn and aim.  First time I have noticed this on a game.

That might be unrelated, iirc Modern Combat 5 was a piece of garbage. On a desktop that could run crysis 3 at highest just fine it crawls along for no good reason. It ran better on android.

Thanks. Yes, I have to admit, asphalt extreme runs pretty well. The same can't be said for gt racing 2. Still, why play that when I can play GRID or Dirt 3.

I've finally played around a little with my Win (I've only had it for 2 days).  And I agree that the button polling is quite slow.

Sadly I can't test it in Gameloft games because they shutdown my device shortly after entering the 3D portion of the game (Tested MC5 & Asphalt Xtreme).  The most I was able to get was about 15 seconds in 3D before the system shuts down.  Then I get a purple light where I have to hold down the power button until it turns off and then restart the device.

Is there any update on this? I just got a response that they "know of this problem" and that they "are improving". They didn't reply whether this is a hardware or a software problem.

Wade just confirmed, that the polling rate has been improved in the latest control update:

http://boards.dingoonity.org/gpd-windows-devices/gpd-win-joystick-updating-manual/

I've just installed it.

Using keyboard test, I get (almost) exactly the same results I got before. I'm not able to register a depress time lower than 49 ms with the face buttons (marginally better than before, but negligible difference), whereas I can register 15-16 ms with any of the keyboard keys.

I'm fairly sure this has NOT fixed the polling rate issue, it's still ~20Hz.