Author Topic: GPD WIN - Poll (Read 18550 times)

vcoleiro1 · « **on:** April 27, 2016, 12:10:11 am »

Well since the IndieGogo campaign for the GPD WIN has finished, I thought I'd start a poll to see how many of us backed it , didn't back it, or are waiting on reviews. Vote and feel free to comment on specifics of why you did/didn't back it or will never back it.

Curious to know also if you backed the WIN over getting a Pyra

Please vote in the Poll above

� · « **Reply #1 on:** April 27, 2016, 02:17:28 am »

Didn't back it up, fat chance that I will buy it in the future - but I look forward towards reviews.

I think it has many problems, ergonomically and specs-wise, and unless someone can get a hands-on impression and either confirm or deny my suspicions I just don't see it as a viable option.

DarkSki · « **Reply #2 on:** April 27, 2016, 03:28:55 am »

I have been waiting for a powerful gaming focused UMPC for years now. I would have backed this even if it was double the price.

Now I will have an upgrade from my oqo model 2 I've been holding onto.

I don't think people quite understand what this Intel z8550 chipset is capable of playing.

I know it'll be able to play Dark Souls 1 and 2 with relative ease on low to mid settings. - I have not played this yet so it's a system seller here.

vcoleiro1 · « **Reply #3 on:** April 27, 2016, 03:42:22 am »

Apollo lake SoCs will be coming out about the same time the GPD WIN goes on sale late this year.

I'm curious to see what peoples reaction will be. It really hasn't been spoken about, a lot of people mentioned current chips (Core M etc), but not much if at all has been said about the impending Intel SoCs that are coming to replace Cherry Trail SoCs.

I'm sure there's going to be a lot of , "can you make a version of GPD WIN with an Apollo Lake SoC please".

That unfortunately always happens with every new SoC released.

Pleng · « **Reply #4 on:** April 27, 2016, 08:26:09 am »

I'm not backing a device on a promise that "we'll add Android later". Had it been a dual-OS device out-of-the-box, or Android only, I'd have backed it.

vcoleiro1 · « **Reply #5 on:** April 27, 2016, 09:07:32 am »

Quote from: Pleng on April 27, 2016, 08:26:09 am

I'm not backing a device on a promise that "we'll add Android later". Had it been a dual-OS device out-of-the-box, or Android only, I'd have backed it.

If you would be happy with an Android only device, then isn't what you are after the XD 2?

knightron · « **Reply #6 on:** April 27, 2016, 12:29:48 pm »

I think GPD's general reception to the feedback of the members here, eg the people most likely to buy it, is quite appalling to be honest. I found their refusal to acknowledge other member's valid criticisms to be a big turn off. I'd be much more inclined to purchase the Pyra as its creators obviously use their devices and seem to even care about what the users want. Regardless, i was somewhat disappointed with a few things about my Pandora that would make me hesitant in purchasing a Pyra too.
Of all the devices soon to be released, the GPD XD2 seems the most worth while. I would purchase the XD2 over either of the GPD-Win or Pyra.

Something i never saw brought up with the GPD Win was the battery life. There was a member on the Pandora boards that used to always express his yearning for an x86 hand held and people used to always shut him up and claim that it would get too hot and the interior fan being continuously run to cool the device down would destroy the battery life. I'm surprised that no one seems to have considered this variable with the GPD Win.

vcoleiro1 · « **Reply #7 on:** April 27, 2016, 01:17:25 pm »

@knightron

As someone obviously who is top of the list in regards to being disappointed that the keyboard letter keys were not centered, I do however feel you are being unfair. GPD in fact made a lot of changes to the WIN via user feedback.

1) They changed to using the Z8550 instead of the Z8500 . The Z8550 request was brought up by me, and pushed by the community until they made the change.

2) They added a ton of keys to the keyboard that the community requested , including: Pg U, Pg Dn, Home, End, Xbox Guide , Print Screen, Scroll lock , Pause and Insert

3) Xinput and Dinput modes were added due to community requests

4) Dual channel Wifi , again added due to community requests

5) I think even dual channel memory and Blutooth 4.1 were possibly added due to community requests

I'm sure I'm forgretting a number of other things.

So yeah, it's pretty unfair to say they haven't listened to us.

As for what has been said on the Pandora forum re Intel SoCs. That has changed over time. There was a point in time were people were unaware that Intel SoCs had caught up with ARM SoCs in regards to power usage. Over time, that has changed, and most people over there now understand that they are competitive with ARM in this front.

As for a fan, there is no fan ATM on the WIN. They plan to use a big heat sink. Just on the point re heating, even ARM SoCs get really hot when pushed, and heat is an issue with them also (You will notice EDs concern in trying to keep the OMAP 5 cool so it doesn't thermally throttle) . You only need to look at the latest smartphones (G7, Lumia 950 XL etc) which now are using liquid cooling heat pipes to cool them down and help give you more time before they thermally throttle.

Pleng · « **Reply #8 on:** April 27, 2016, 01:21:04 pm »

Quote from: vcoleiro1 on April 27, 2016, 09:07:32 am

Quote from: Pleng on April 27, 2016, 08:26:09 am
I'm not backing a device on a promise that "we'll add Android later". Had it been a dual-OS device out-of-the-box, or Android only, I'd have backed it.

If you would be happy with an Android only device, then isn't what you are after the XD 2?

Not unless they're planning on putting a keyboard on the XD 2

Deen0X · « **Reply #9 on:** April 27, 2016, 01:45:45 pm »

nooooo, please, no keyboard. is some really useless on this kind of devices, IMHO

in fact, i really hope GPD will release a WIN-ANDROID (DualOS) based device WITHOUT keyboard, and priorize gaming controls for comfortable and good experience on gaming.

DarkSki · « **Reply #10 on:** April 27, 2016, 02:10:00 pm »

Have you ever used a portable Windows device before.
Without a real keyboard you can't navigate the BIOS or enter text in any game

Basically there is no possible way to have a playable Windows gaming device without a keyboard.

Also if you really want Android or linux on this device then you simply need to install it , you can install android on any Windows based machine as long as you know how to partition and set it up.

Deen0X · « **Reply #11 on:** April 27, 2016, 02:31:13 pm »

yes, every day. i'm playing on windows devices from a year ago, and i don?t need a keyboard.

if you prefer to play games that requires keyboard, ok, then you need a keyboard, but most games don?t need a keyboard for proper playing. (of course, i'm speaking about gamepad supported. if you have a device with gamepad, why you want to play a game that doesn't support?)

but, as i said, this is my opinion. i prefer a gaming device focussed on gamepad, without keyboard, becuse is really useless for playing.

Deen0X · « **Reply #12 on:** April 27, 2016, 02:32:28 pm »

and for bios, well, you can plug an external keyboard and set bios options... but this is something that you don?t need to do everyday.

in fact, i didn't touch my bios from... months ago.

vcoleiro1 · « **Reply #13 on:** April 27, 2016, 02:41:10 pm »

@Deen0X

Considering you prefer the Q9 form factor (and no keyboard). Can I ask why you have never pushed for a Q9 update with better specs and dual boot. This seems to fit more to what you're after.

For example , why not push for lets call it the Q10, something with an upcoming Apollo lake SoC , dual boot, better sticks, a metal back case that is attached to the SoC for cooling etc etc.

Remember what I said about not trying to change product brands/lines into something they are not, and that you'd have better luck asking for things with a product that's more in line with your desires. It seems to me an update to the Q9 is what you're after.

Deen0X · « **Reply #14 on:** April 27, 2016, 02:51:27 pm »

yes, Q9 may be fine, but i prefer small screens. 5 or 6 inches.

and i hate the L1, R1, L2 and R2 buttons from Q series... are so uncomfortable.

but the design i proposed is a valid design for both, 5~6" or 7~8 inches.

personally, i think big screen may be suitable for a proper keyboard, and small screens for gaming controls without keyboard.

in any case, if GPD release a Q series with DualBoot, for sure will be my favorite device, without doubts.

GPDWIN Gamer · « **Reply #15 on:** April 27, 2016, 04:18:31 pm »

I backed it and looking forward to receiving the GPD WIN. Glad they made the upgrades they did at the communities feedback. I just like tinkering with things like this as a hobby. My GPD XD is supposed to arrive today and stoked to enjoy that as well.

Skelton-retired · « **Reply #16 on:** April 27, 2016, 05:55:15 pm »

I voted last option. I have no interest in it to be honest. I?ll wait for an Xd 2 with android or another device like that,

vcoleiro1 · « **Reply #17 on:** April 27, 2016, 11:48:16 pm »

I'm really looking forward to seeing the first working prototype

Pleng · « **Reply #18 on:** April 28, 2016, 08:56:07 am »

Quote from: Deen0X on April 27, 2016, 01:45:45 pm

nooooo, please, no keyboard. is some really useless on this kind of devices, IMHO

It's clearly not useless, that's a ridiculous thing to say. You personally have little use for it, fine, but it clearly has uses, and plenty of them.

Anyway, the XD2 isn't going to have a keyboard; which was my point - it's not an appropriate substitute for the WIN

Deen0X · « **Reply #19 on:** April 28, 2016, 11:48:42 am »

yes, no keyboard, but will be only android, and this is a bad point for me.

i want the XD2, running Windows and Android... and focussed to gaming (insist, without keyboard) this is what i and many (really many) other people want.

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