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Maniac

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Re: GPD WIN Performance Guide
« Reply #20 on: November 19, 2016, 03:56:48 pm »
UPDATE 2: Check out these comparisons with some bios tweaks. It seems that some games perform better or worse by setting IGD TURBO ENABLE to Auto or Disabled but keeping POWER METER LOCK to enabled all the time.

http://imgur.com/a/tHObt

Those screenshots would be so much more helpful if the GPU clock were included.

When IGD TURBO ENABLE is set to disabled, GPU CLOCK is constant at 400mhz and doesnt go higher than that.
When IGD TURBO ENABLE is set to Auto then the GPU CLOCK varies.

Thanks!

shinkamui

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Re: GPD WIN Performance Guide
« Reply #21 on: November 19, 2016, 07:03:50 pm »
Well, i felt more confident since Skelton got the bios reset key combo (i didnt' test it first, dumb i know), and i set the ram setting to fast.  Booted after about 2 minutes with the red light on a black screen.  Also noticing as a side, that I pushed the throttle temps up to about 75c which could be dangerous since critical is only 85...but heavy games run better longer.  Was able to play Divinity OS:EE for about 30 minutes before the temps hit 74 and I killed it.  Cooling is definitely a problem.  Phawx shim mod might be a literal game changer, if it does indeed  drop temps by an average of 10deg C.   Ultimately it seems that a stronger fan replacement (and lowered runtime) will be needed to keep temps under throttle on higher end titles.  But looking at the average game runtime when your cpu is running that hot, at a certain point, we're just not going to have the battery capacity to justify the work.

shinkamui

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Re: GPD WIN Performance Guide
« Reply #22 on: November 20, 2016, 04:52:29 pm »
After some pretty decent testing, I can confirm pretty conclusively, that on MY WIN, turning on ram timing to fast from typical results in the driver crash.  I made the adjustment and then wanted to test MC5 while waiting for my sandisk 128 to copy to the new lexar 128 (which by the way is fooking slow as balls in the win for no apparent reason, sticking with the sandisk).  MC5 was the first and only game to crash, and it would crash within 30 seconds of joining an multiplayer match, consistently (read every single time).  I changed the ram setting back to typical, and was able to play a full 10 minute match with no issue.  Turned it back on, crash.  Turned it off, played another full match. 

I hope this helps some of you, if you're experiencing the video driver crash, please try changing the ram setting from fast back to typical if you changed it and assumed it had no impact. 

thk12345 (OP)

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Re: GPD WIN Performance Guide
« Reply #23 on: November 21, 2016, 11:35:21 am »
Well, i felt more confident since Skelton got the bios reset key combo (i didnt' test it first, dumb i know), and i set the ram setting to fast.  Booted after about 2 minutes with the red light on a black screen.  Also noticing as a side, that I pushed the throttle temps up to about 75c which could be dangerous since critical is only 85...but heavy games run better longer.  Was able to play Divinity OS:EE for about 30 minutes before the temps hit 74 and I killed it.  Cooling is definitely a problem.  Phawx shim mod might be a literal game changer, if it does indeed  drop temps by an average of 10deg C.   Ultimately it seems that a stronger fan replacement (and lowered runtime) will be needed to keep temps under throttle on higher end titles.  But looking at the average game runtime when your cpu is running that hot, at a certain point, we're just not going to have the battery capacity to justify the work.

I agree that heatsink mod will be extremely beneficial as it will lower temps by alot. I just hope someone in the community does an in-depth step by step tutorial on how do the copper shim mod.

nex86

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Re: GPD WIN Performance Guide
« Reply #24 on: December 02, 2016, 10:03:06 pm »
When IGD TURBO ENABLE is set to disabled, GPU CLOCK is constant at 400mhz and doesnt go higher than that.
When IGD TURBO ENABLE is set to Auto then the GPU CLOCK varies.

IGD Turbo auto and power lock enabled, its constant at 600mhz.
Temps go up to 75?Cish on long time gaming.

I'm doing the heatsink mod when my thermal adhesive and arctic silver 5 come in.
I already got 0,8mm shims.
« Last Edit: December 02, 2016, 10:05:03 pm by nex86 »

Faust

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Re: GPD WIN Performance Guide
« Reply #25 on: December 03, 2016, 01:33:43 pm »
Guys you can use rightmark softwares to keep a really low energy profile besides a full performance profile made with Phawx performance guide.

Macatron

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Re: GPD WIN Performance Guide
« Reply #26 on: December 03, 2016, 01:49:21 pm »
After some pretty decent testing, I can confirm pretty conclusively, that on MY WIN, turning on ram timing to fast from typical results in the driver crash.  I made the adjustment and then wanted to test MC5 while waiting for my sandisk 128 to copy to the new lexar 128 (which by the way is fooking slow as balls in the win for no apparent reason, sticking with the sandisk).  MC5 was the first and only game to crash, and it would crash within 30 seconds of joining an multiplayer match, consistently (read every single time).  I changed the ram setting back to typical, and was able to play a full 10 minute match with no issue.  Turned it back on, crash.  Turned it off, played another full match. 

I hope this helps some of you, if you're experiencing the video driver crash, please try changing the ram setting from fast back to typical if you changed it and assumed it had no impact.

So, you have a Lexar S45 and it's really slow? That's crazy! I was really looking hard at that particular USB drive because it had some really high read/write speeds. As for your SanDisk, are you running into any problems with heat? I've read that those things can actually get hot to the touch. Thanks!

skelton

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Re: GPD WIN Performance Guide
« Reply #27 on: December 03, 2016, 01:56:51 pm »
I have a lexar s45 and is really fast. I ran the benchmarks in some post. Shinkamui lexar must be different or.must be deffective, because the lexar os great for me.kn my gpd win.
« Last Edit: December 03, 2016, 01:58:31 pm by skelton »
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thk12345 (OP)

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Re: GPD WIN Performance Guide
« Reply #28 on: December 06, 2016, 08:28:13 am »
When IGD TURBO ENABLE is set to disabled, GPU CLOCK is constant at 400mhz and doesnt go higher than that.
When IGD TURBO ENABLE is set to Auto then the GPU CLOCK varies.

IGD Turbo auto and power lock enabled, its constant at 600mhz.
Temps go up to 75?Cish on long time gaming.

I'm doing the heatsink mod when my thermal adhesive and arctic silver 5 come in.
I already got 0,8mm shims.

Awesome find! I will post it in the OP.

As for the heatsink mod, would you mind doing a tutorial of it?

thk12345 (OP)

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Re: GPD WIN Performance Guide
« Reply #29 on: December 06, 2016, 08:50:38 am »
UPDATE 5: THROTTLESTOP is awesome. Set your own clocks you want your GPD WIN to at run whenever.

Tick SET MULTIPLIER to set the clocks according to what you want.
30T = 2400mhz (Maximum turbo boost for z8700)
29T = 2320mhz
28T = 2240mhz
27T = 2160mhz
26T = 2080mhz
25T = 2000mhz
24T = 1920mhz
23T = 1840mhz
22T = 1760mhz
21T = 1680mhz
20T = 1600mhz (Base clock for z8700)

GPD WIN runs at 2400mhz by default which causes a lot of heat which can get uncomfortable while playing games for a long period of time so a quick fix for the heat is to set your max frequency less than 2400mhz. Setting it at 1600mhz is the best solution to get the least amount of heat out of your system since games will be running at its base clocks which can hurt fps in certain games . So instead of settling for base clocks, set it to 2000mhz (IDEAL SETTING FOR ME) or whatever you prefer to get the best out of heat and fps.

thk12345 (OP)

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Re: GPD WIN Performance Guide
« Reply #30 on: December 06, 2016, 08:50:58 am »
UPDATE 4: Enable IGD TURBO ENABLE in bios to get GPU running at 600mhz most of the time. This tweak doesn't lock 600mhz but tries to run to run it at that frequency most of the time.

nex86

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Re: GPD WIN Performance Guide
« Reply #31 on: December 07, 2016, 11:53:29 pm »
does DTS do anything on the temps?

nex86

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Re: GPD WIN Performance Guide
« Reply #32 on: December 09, 2016, 04:48:00 pm »
disabling IGD TURBO ENABLE gives me lower framerates in any GPU limited games.
I don't know how people assume it could be faster...

thk12345 (OP)

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Re: GPD WIN Performance Guide
« Reply #33 on: December 12, 2016, 05:31:41 am »
does DTS do anything on the temps?

I don't know if it does anything to the temps but it helped with throttling

thk12345 (OP)

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Re: GPD WIN Performance Guide
« Reply #34 on: December 12, 2016, 05:32:48 am »
disabling IGD TURBO ENABLE gives me lower framerates in any GPU limited games.
I don't know how people assume it could be faster...

I already mentioned that disabling that setting helps with certain games and I have also provided pictures which prove that.

ruffnutts

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Re: GPD WIN Performance Guide
« Reply #35 on: December 13, 2016, 10:54:28 pm »
In the first post are is that a backup of the GPD Win drivers using double driver? if not anyone got one?

thk12345 (OP)

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Re: GPD WIN Performance Guide
« Reply #36 on: December 17, 2016, 10:24:39 am »
In the first post are is that a backup of the GPD Win drivers using double driver? if not anyone got one?

Nope its not from double driver. I actually do have a backup using double driver though. If you want it, I can upload it for you but it should be identical to the drivers posted on the first post.

infernogott

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Re: GPD WIN Performance Guide
« Reply #37 on: December 28, 2016, 12:13:25 pm »
Yesterday I received my new GPD Win, after I returned my old one, which had the Display Driver Crash.

The new one doesn't have that problem, but I don't have the advanced settings in BIOS anymore. There is only main, boot and save & exit. How to get to those settings now?

Kilrah

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Re: GPD WIN Performance Guide
« Reply #38 on: December 28, 2016, 03:00:10 pm »
What BIOS version is loaded?

infernogott

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Re: GPD WIN Performance Guide
« Reply #39 on: December 28, 2016, 05:58:48 pm »
Here is a picture I made of the bios.

 

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