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Well, of course everyone here would really love a powerful handheld the size of Win 1/2 with good battery life, i7 and a geforce 1080 inside. Just at the moment with the current technology this is as much sci-fi as an Aperture Science Portal gun
So I think we should most accurately think and talk about the most likely candidates for Win 3 processors and just generally the areas for improvement in a potential successor for the GPD Win lineup.

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For me, the #1 thing i'd have like to have seen, was instead of a 2242 m.2, have a 2280 NVME M.2
I don't know how or where they could have squeezed it in, but it's the only thing i'd have liked to have seen.
2242 SSDs are expensive if you want name brand. But quality high performance 2280's are considerably cheaper. 500GB NVME 2280s for the same price as 256GB 2242s.

The i5 7y57 isn't enough of an improvement to really bother me. But i guess the minor clock increases could be the difference between playable framerates and not.

Ryzen APUs are kinda new, kinda big, and just a tad too power hungry. But maybe for GPD Win 3 in a couple years. Would be pretty cool to play at 1080p high settings on a mobile.

For me, the #1 thing i'd have like to have seen, was instead of a 2242 m.2, have a 2280 NVME M.2
I don't know how or where they could have squeezed it in, but it's the only thing i'd have liked to have seen.
2242 SSDs are expensive if you want name brand. But quality high performance 2280's are considerably cheaper. 500GB NVME 2280s for the same price as 256GB 2242s.

The i5 7y57 isn't enough of an improvement to really bother me. But i guess the minor clock increases could be the difference between playable framerates and not.

Ryzen APUs are kinda new, kinda big, and just a tad too power hungry. But maybe for GPD Win 3 in a couple years. Would be pretty cool to play at 1080p high settings on a mobile.

Even if they got passed the size issue with that, an NVME drive would turn the Win 2 into a lava nugget.

While AMD would be nice, like Phawx says we still need to wait for them to release a competent chip that requires less than 15W power while providing better performance and value than the Intel equivalent.
Not only that, we'd need for there to be supplier in China who'd be willing to buy up a ton AMD chips to sell to smaller companies like GPD for a reasonable price and for AMD to be willing to sell to China in the first place.

AMD's embedded Ryzen chips have configurable TDPs down to 12W: https://www.amd.com/en-us/press-releases/Pages/amd-launches-epyc-embedded-2018feb21.aspx Though sadly they don't seem to have LPDDR4X support, which would help with power consumption.

I rarely use win 2 at more than 9W because It only generate more heat and not better performance. No surprise smach people put that big fan in it. 

What's great about all of these decidedly "high-end" handhelds coming out is the requirements to reconcile battery/heat problems that are posed in tight spaces.

Honestly looking at the Win2, it is JAM PACKED.  To fit a 10000mAh battery, heatsink/fan, 2242 SSD, 6in screen, complete gaming controls and keyboard inside of 162x99x25mm. 

Exploring different options in the future is going to be a necessity.  They might have to figure out how to have SATA wiring going through the hinge and have 2280 or 22110 drives behind the screen.  This way the screen component isn't too heavy and we can scale the heatsink+fan to accomodate for a 15w part.

Having said that, we would need 20mAh battery to have the same battery life with a 15w part.  A 2x increase in battery size will be noticeable somewhere. And that's a big challenge.

I don't know how much bigger a device could get.  Right now the Win2 is about as THICC as I want, to where I can still find it pocket-able.  But almost any dimension we increase, it would really be on the fringe case of "pocket-able"

So, the future will be interesting.  Provided that SmachZ does come out and makes a product that is nice to use, then I think GPD will really have to consider increasing the power envelope.  A LOT can happen in two years.  I hope GPD waits until 2020 when AMD is supposed to launch at 7nm.  At least by then we'll be looking at 2x PS4 levels of gaming perf inside of 15watts.  (I will really try to push for HBM3)

What happened with the SSDs that caused 3 of 8 beta units to fail? Haven't been following the Discord lately and I'm hoping someone can give me a quick rundown on the situation.

3 of 8 sounds like a high failure rate, wondering if I should just buy a more trusted brand SSD and upgrade ASAP when I get the WIN 2.

I've often wondered if a Surface Pro style heatsink could help.

For instance,
That one spans the majority of the back of the device and uses up as much space as it can for cooling. Imagine two small, thin fans (if the space could be found for them - one is more plausible) working together with a much more spread out heatsink and maybe that's how GPD could disperse more heat.

[Note the top left where on the i7 version a fan sits]

I'm sure it would help us it were big enough.  There's just not enough space for something like that though.

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The other thing i'd like to have seen is a Thunderbolt Type 3 port, with full PCIe4x bus lanes. For external GPUs and devices.
And the usb ports all be USB 3.1 instead of usb 3.0

What's great about all of these decidedly "high-end" handhelds coming out is the requirements to reconcile battery/heat problems that are posed in tight spaces.

Honestly looking at the Win2, it is JAM PACKED.  To fit a 10000mAh battery, heatsink/fan, 2242 SSD, 6in screen, complete gaming controls and keyboard inside of 162x99x25mm. 

Exploring different options in the future is going to be a necessity.  They might have to figure out how to have SATA wiring going through the hinge and have 2280 or 22110 drives behind the screen.  This way the screen component isn't too heavy and we can scale the heatsink+fan to accomodate for a 15w part.

Having said that, we would need 20mAh battery to have the same battery life with a 15w part.  A 2x increase in battery size will be noticeable somewhere. And that's a big challenge.

I don't know how much bigger a device could get.  Right now the Win2 is about as THICC as I want, to where I can still find it pocket-able.  But almost any dimension we increase, it would really be on the fringe case of "pocket-able"

So, the future will be interesting.  Provided that SmachZ does come out and makes a product that is nice to use, then I think GPD will really have to consider increasing the power envelope.  A LOT can happen in two years.  I hope GPD waits until 2020 when AMD is supposed to launch at 7nm.  At least by then we'll be looking at 2x PS4 levels of gaming perf inside of 15watts.  (I will really try to push for HBM3)

GPD could always explore something like the form factor of the original Shield handheld. That had a lot of room in the controller for batteries and CPU cooling, and was very comfortable to hold.