Author Topic: Shield Portable v GPD XD.  (Read 5730 times)

KSS1992 (OP)

Shield Portable v GPD XD.
« on: June 23, 2016, 03:30:17 pm »
It seems like the Shield Portable has been permanently discontinued according to most sources. Why Nvidia hasn't removed it from their site or made an official statment just leaving it out of stock for more than a year now is beyond anyone's comprehension lol. However I thought this would be an intriguing time to look at the next best thing in 5 inch gaming portables called the GPD XD. Obv Shield portable would be the superior device in quality but the GPD XD's form factor is very convenient.

This past week I managed to pick up a Shield Portable (my 4th one after 2 years of having got then sold it, first due to the form factor and getting a Shield Tablet, then the 2nd and 3rd time because Nvidia hinted at a new one then it turned out that didn't pan out well) for a decent price being it came with the box, case and controller (probably selling the controller though if anyone's interested let me know). But I realize if the GPD's portability would suit me better. I love my 3DS XL and I feel like If i want to play Portal/Half Life 2/PS4 Remote Play I could do it from my tablet because I will likely be doing these things in the house lol. But emulation I would do on the go alot and maybe GPD XD would be easier to bring around.

So my question I suppose is if I should bother selling the Shield or I should keep it and get myself a GPD XD to use? It really is one of a kind now that Nvidia has stopped production and probably will be worth something one day (it even is now lol). And for the owners of the GPD XD not having a defective device is it good machine and how is the D-Pad truly because I hear mixed results from people. Is the device worth it? Thanks in advance sorry for the long post lol.

maxjohnson

Re: Shield Portable v GPD XD.
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2016, 04:59:26 pm »
I also regret selling the Shield, although it was a bit bulky for me to consider as portable. I recommend keeping it because its such a unique and powerful device. I only wish it was fast enough to play Betrayal of Krondor over DOSBox smoother.

I bought a GPD XD, but it had a defective touchscreen so some part didn't registered touch and I'm waiting for a replacement to arrive. I did manage to play a bit on it though and it is a very good device. Although not as fast as the Shield, it still handle pretty much all the Android games I throw at it. I discovered on Android device, you can change the screen resolution and DPI by enabling USB Debugging and using the commands "wm size ####x###" and "wm density ###". Although this was not needed since the CPU is fast enough.

The only real complain I have is the DPad is on the small side, so you can get cramp playing fighting games for too long, and it can be harder to make some complex moves. I still find it to be an improvement from the DPad on my previous JXD S7800b.

I think the Gamepad mapping software is not perfect because it doesn't let you delete 'onscreen buttons' that you don't use, so you have to move it to a side. But with I think the combination of my touchscreen issue was why I had issues with this, so it might not be a problem.

If you think the Shield Portable is too bulky and you want to be able to carry the device around I think the GPD XD is a good option.

KSS1992 (OP)

Re: Shield Portable v GPD XD.
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2016, 05:11:57 pm »
Hello,

Thanks so much for your post :). I am probably going to get a GPD XD soon and keep the shield for collectors purposes just because its truly one of a kind. There hasn't ever, nor will there likely ever be another device like this. Its probably the greatest portable gaming device ever created despite the large size. Also I think the GPD XD would've been perfect if it was Tegra 4 and had the L3/R3 as clickable buttons on the sticks as most controllers do.

equlizer

Re: Shield Portable v GPD XD.
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2016, 05:13:11 am »
I had the shield and i have the XD.  I prefer the XD for what i do (play emulators)

Berryal

Re: Shield Portable v GPD XD.
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2016, 12:06:24 pm »
Please keep the Shield, the more people that can hang onto and care for these limited devices the better. It's a wonderful device and you would regret parting with it. I could never. :p

knightron

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Re: Shield Portable v GPD XD.
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2016, 12:30:23 pm »
I can't comment on how the XD compares with the Shield, or what you should do, as i have never used the Shield.
I wanted to comment on the d-pad. Some people seems to like it, but personally i wasn't a fan. I disassembled mine, and replaced the cross part of the d-pad, (not the membrane) with one from a NN3DSXL and it has made my experience much more enjoyable.

PaulFoster

Re: Shield Portable v GPD XD.
« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2016, 02:35:46 pm »
I got a Shield portable for the xmas before last as I'm an emulation freak and it seemed the ideal handheld emulator.
Sadly I really didn't get along with it, it was rather bulky, I didn't find it comfortable to use but mainly it was so heavy my wrists killed me after playing for over 8-10mins :(   Sadly this was a 'deal breaker' for me and I sold the device 4-5 months after getting it.

I then bought a 2nd hand PSP and homebrewed it to run emulators, I had a really nifty little dual memory stick which allowed me to fit 2 64gb microsd cards at the same time, so I had a ton of space for my games.  It worked fine but the screen was just a bit small for my old eyes.

I then bought a JXD s7800B and that huge screen was awesome, sadly I returned the device 3 days later as I felt it was likey to break at any second and I hated the analogue sticks.

Then bought a GPD XD and yes, this was the one for me.  It's superb, the controls and sticks are great and feel like they won't break easily (unlike JXD) and the battery life is awesome!  The only downside of the GPD for me is the screensize, I wish it was a little larger but still it's an excellent device and I can play on this for an hour straight unlike my old Shield which would hurt my wrists.

GPD XD is superb.. if you could buy one with a 6in screen it would be my perfect system.

shinkamui

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Re: Shield Portable v GPD XD.
« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2016, 03:00:01 am »
Shield Portable and Tablet owner myself.  I use the GPD almost exclusively, just because its pocketable and it doesn't have the battery drain issue the portable does.  And of course 32gigs of internal storage makes for a better android gaming experience than worrying about directory binding to an SD.  Shield is hands down a much better gaming device than the XD, but portability and pocketability really do determine whether or not you grab your portable gaming device on the go on a whim or not.  Shield isn't worth enough vs its keep value to warrant a sale for me.  Might balloon in price at some point in the future if nvidia doesn't make a portable 2, but at this point, the k1 and the X1 performance boost of the T4 make it a hard buy.  Especially with the nvidia exclusive fragmentation, and the fact that its OS updates are finished.

KSS1992 (OP)

Re: Shield Portable v GPD XD.
« Reply #8 on: June 29, 2016, 04:13:03 pm »
I got a Shield portable for the xmas before last as I'm an emulation freak and it seemed the ideal handheld emulator.
Sadly I really didn't get along with it, it was rather bulky, I didn't find it comfortable to use but mainly it was so heavy my wrists killed me after playing for over 8-10mins :(   Sadly this was a 'deal breaker' for me and I sold the device 4-5 months after getting it.

I then bought a 2nd hand PSP and homebrewed it to run emulators, I had a really nifty little dual memory stick which allowed me to fit 2 64gb microsd cards at the same time, so I had a ton of space for my games.  It worked fine but the screen was just a bit small for my old eyes.

I then bought a JXD s7800B and that huge screen was awesome, sadly I returned the device 3 days later as I felt it was likey to break at any second and I hated the analogue sticks.

Then bought a GPD XD and yes, this was the one for me.  It's superb, the controls and sticks are great and feel like they won't break easily (unlike JXD) and the battery life is awesome!  The only downside of the GPD for me is the screensize, I wish it was a little larger but still it's an excellent device and I can play on this for an hour straight unlike my old Shield which would hurt my wrists.

GPD XD is superb.. if you could buy one with a 6in screen it would be my perfect system.

Thanks for your input! I might get the GPD XD eventually, and if your interested their is word of a GPD XD 2 coming out with the 6 inch screen you mentioned and rumors it will have a screen that can swivel around and make the thing a tiny tablet.


Shield Portable and Tablet owner myself.  I use the GPD almost exclusively, just because its pocketable and it doesn't have the battery drain issue the portable does.  And of course 32gigs of internal storage makes for a better android gaming experience than worrying about directory binding to an SD.  Shield is hands down a much better gaming device than the XD, but portability and pocketability really do determine whether or not you grab your portable gaming device on the go on a whim or not.  Shield isn't worth enough vs its keep value to warrant a sale for me.  Might balloon in price at some point in the future if nvidia doesn't make a portable 2, but at this point, the k1 and the X1 performance boost of the T4 make it a hard buy.  Especially with the nvidia exclusive fragmentation, and the fact that its OS updates are finished.

Thank you for your info! You and the previous poster have really made me consider getting the GPD XD or perhaps waiting for the GPD XD 2 as its more portable and its good quality. Do you think its worth to keep the shield portable as a collectible item though (for the value it may have in the future)? I only say that because it seems they've altogether stopped making the portable and the "plans" for a portable 2 seemed to have disappeared or been cancelled. I hope they give the portable line another go. They could do well with a portable 2.
« Last Edit: June 29, 2016, 04:15:12 pm by KSS1992 »

shinkamui

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Re: Shield Portable v GPD XD.
« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2016, 05:42:27 pm »
today for a used shield portable you're looking at less than 200$ in a sale, unless you sell it on the street to someone with little or no sense.  Thats entirely depending on the condition as well.  They're going for as little as 79$ working with a few scratches.  I would keep it unless you know someone who will definitely buy it at the price you're looking to get for it.  It will always be able to emulate what it emulates, and barring a major change in gamestreaming, should always have access to remote stream PC, xbox one, and ps4 games.  Plus you have moonlight if nvidia decides to kill the portables support from their drivers.  Until the battery stops holding a charge, it probably has more value in your hands than on ebay.   As for the xd, i wouldn't buy it, I would wait for the GPD Win, the PGS (if it makes an actual appearance) or the XD2.  While you have the shield portable, there's really no reason to spend more money for an inferior handheld.  If size is a huge or the only factor, then you could probably unload the shield and buy the XD, with a low enough net expenditure to make it palatable.  I know the feeling of wanting something new, so i dont want to downplay those feelings in any way, but in the short term, you're just going to be putting yourself in this same position again when the proposed better handhelds launch in a few months if you buy now.

KSS1992 (OP)

Re: Shield Portable v GPD XD.
« Reply #10 on: June 29, 2016, 07:30:39 pm »
today for a used shield portable you're looking at less than 200$ in a sale, unless you sell it on the street to someone with little or no sense.  Thats entirely depending on the condition as well.  They're going for as little as 79$ working with a few scratches.  I would keep it unless you know someone who will definitely buy it at the price you're looking to get for it.  It will always be able to emulate what it emulates, and barring a major change in gamestreaming, should always have access to remote stream PC, xbox one, and ps4 games.  Plus you have moonlight if nvidia decides to kill the portables support from their drivers.  Until the battery stops holding a charge, it probably has more value in your hands than on ebay.   As for the xd, i wouldn't buy it, I would wait for the GPD Win, the PGS (if it makes an actual appearance) or the XD2.  While you have the shield portable, there's really no reason to spend more money for an inferior handheld.  If size is a huge or the only factor, then you could probably unload the shield and buy the XD, with a low enough net expenditure to make it palatable.  I know the feeling of wanting something new, so i dont want to downplay those feelings in any way, but in the short term, you're just going to be putting yourself in this same position again when the proposed better handhelds launch in a few months if you buy now.

Thanks for your advice I appreciate it alot. I was considering "unloading the shield" and buying the XD just for the form factor and mostly what I want to do is emulation and some android games like Dead Trigger and Tomb Raiders 1 and 2. But do you think it would be worth it to hold onto the shield instead of sell just from the perspective of collectible value rising in the future (being that Nvidia has discontinued it and will most likely not make a second one)?.

JustBeKrillin

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Re: Shield Portable v GPD XD.
« Reply #11 on: June 29, 2016, 08:03:21 pm »
If you can afford it I recommend both.

However, the shield portable has two main flaws: control layout is awkward and the analog sticks have major dead zones. Hold your stick in place and eventually itll not even register a movement. Its a known problem but one you can work around and its not too huge of an issue but it is there. I do not know if it was a hardware or firmware problem so I cant speak if its been fixed or not. I havent touched my two shield portables in a long time.

nex86

Re: Shield Portable v GPD XD.
« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2016, 11:24:40 pm »
I do have both and this is what I noticed so far after testing the XD..

- XD is slimmer and more compact, so it easily fits in your pocket.
- On the XD I dislike the clicking noises that the trigger buttons do. they feel a bit more cheap than on the 3DS XL.
- Quality of the case of the XD feels kinda cheap
- The XD's display seems to be brighter than the Shield's, The Shield also has a slight yellowness in the display.
- Overall buildquality and also ergonomy is a lot better on the Shield Portable.
- Both CPU and GPU performance is slightly better on the Shield Portable, but lacks of OpenGL ES 3.X support.
You will be stuck with OpenGL ES 2.0 which actually is not a big deal.

You get a handheld with a controller that has the quality of an Xbox 360 controller but which is much more bulkier and heavier than the XD.
With the XD you get a handheld that has the dimensions of a 3DS XL, but a bit cheaper buildquality and also slightly less performance than with the Shield Portable
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DCXPIG

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Re: Shield Portable v GPD XD.
« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2016, 12:46:13 am »
 I have the Shield Portable, an XD 64gb and a JXD S192 so you know where I'm coming from...  The Shield is the nicest of the 3, build quality and generally speaking I mimic nex86 highlights...  My XD gets some play due to the ergonomics of the device, in some ways I prefer the dpad to the Shield's..  It simply feels a little better, there's some play on the Shield even though the pad itself is physically better construct.  Anyway, at a high level the XD is a great device, they actually spent sometime creating the image and it's got some polish to it.  For a novice it's a no brainer, the preloaded software and frontends (I think there's 3) really do allow anyone to reach an ungodly amount of software for it..  Feature wise the only thing the Shield has that the XD doesn't is the bluetooth, and of course games that use it put the tegra to good use.

  The S192, for anyone that cares, lacks a proper load and appears to be the biggest slouch on performance.  Given that there's no customization on it right now I'd recommend everyone steer clear, quality wise it appears to be eh..  It feels good but let's say the QC has alot to be desired, mine has a stuck bright white pixel, the one before it had a faulty analog stick and the screen was protruding on one side...

shinkamui

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Re: Shield Portable v GPD XD.
« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2016, 05:38:22 am »
today for a used shield portable you're looking at less than 200$ in a sale, unless you sell it on the street to someone with little or no sense.  Thats entirely depending on the condition as well.  They're going for as little as 79$ working with a few scratches.  I would keep it unless you know someone who will definitely buy it at the price you're looking to get for it.  It will always be able to emulate what it emulates, and barring a major change in gamestreaming, should always have access to remote stream PC, xbox one, and ps4 games.  Plus you have moonlight if nvidia decides to kill the portables support from their drivers.  Until the battery stops holding a charge, it probably has more value in your hands than on ebay.   As for the xd, i wouldn't buy it, I would wait for the GPD Win, the PGS (if it makes an actual appearance) or the XD2.  While you have the shield portable, there's really no reason to spend more money for an inferior handheld.  If size is a huge or the only factor, then you could probably unload the shield and buy the XD, with a low enough net expenditure to make it palatable.  I know the feeling of wanting something new, so i dont want to downplay those feelings in any way, but in the short term, you're just going to be putting yourself in this same position again when the proposed better handhelds launch in a few months if you buy now.

Thanks for your advice I appreciate it alot. I was considering "unloading the shield" and buying the XD just for the form factor and mostly what I want to do is emulation and some android games like Dead Trigger and Tomb Raiders 1 and 2. But do you think it would be worth it to hold onto the shield instead of sell just from the perspective of collectible value rising in the future (being that Nvidia has discontinued it and will most likely not make a second one)?.

My point is more along the lines of the shield being a better gaming platform than the XD in all respects.  It loses in portability only, and even there, its (imo) not a big enough factor to bite the bullet this late in the game.  The shield will offer you a better gaming experience, and your money is just better spend on the next GPD product that fits the niche.  If you have the money and are dying to get a new toy, then buy a 32gig, its cheap enough.  I wouldn't waste the money on a 16gig, thats just 100% pure downgrade.  Im still in the camp that you're better off enjoying solid gameplay now for the next 3 months, until the new GPD handhelds show up/get solidified.  The win should be here for certain by Q3, and the XD2 should at least have a final design by then based on GPDs track record.  If you were buying last year i would have said it was worth the buy, but the wait is over for the next unit, there's really no overwhelming reason to buy old underperforming hardware today when  a significantly better platform is around the corner. 
Assuming that you don't have a ton of money to just throw away, buying the XD now would make it a LOT harder to upgrade in the short term, so Im advising from that standpoint.  If thats not the case, I don't think you'd really be asking us for advice :).  Maybe tell us a little about why you find the shield inadequate?  Its very difficult to predict the future market for a niche device like the shield.  The price has been fluctuating a lot over the last year.  There is also fcc documentation and benchmark leaks of a new shield portable with gaming controls, though its uncertain to date if its a shield tablet with game controls (x1 powered S192 equivalent?) or a 2nd gen X1 powered shield portable.  Everything known shouts wait to me. 
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