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Title: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on March 07, 2016, 12:16:08 pm
Thought I'd start a thread on the GPD XD2 since GPD have now started posting some renders of it.  It's still early days, and these renders are non final yet.


Anyway from this thread that Kit (from GPD) started , here are some early renders.  The current plan is for it to have a 6" screen that rotates back 360 degrees to fold flat on the bottom, so it can be used as a small tablet

When more details come in over time, I'll update this post (unless GPD start a new thread)

http://tieba.baidu.com/p/4377628677

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: redlemon on March 07, 2016, 12:29:39 pm
It sounds great. If the GPD Win ends up being too expensive or has some serious flaws I could definitely see myself getting this as my next portable machine.

The reversible screen is a great idea so you can play vertical aligned android games in comfort.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on March 07, 2016, 12:34:58 pm
They tried to hide it, but you can clearly see the third stick in the top image - bottom right of the game pad.
You can see part of the border of the stick, and in the screen reflection, you can see the stick.

I wonder if they are still going to do it. ie more than two sticks.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Deen0X on March 07, 2016, 01:10:33 pm
I want this model running cherrytrail SoC.

the DPAD appear to be sized a little bit bigger... right?
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: tonyp1987 on March 07, 2016, 01:13:01 pm
When this comes out I'm getting it and giving my son the gpd xd 64 red the one I got now. I hope the gpd xd2 has at least 2.5ghz cpu and it can play dolphin emulator.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on March 07, 2016, 01:14:00 pm
@Deenox 

Yes, the Dpad does look bigger.

How do you feel about the possibility of the XD2 having three joysticks as the renders hint?
(See my previous comment)
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Deen0X on March 07, 2016, 01:21:27 pm
first of all, for clearifing my position:
KENDY: I WANT THIS WITH DUALOS. IF THIS CAN RUN ANDROID AND WINDOWS, I WILL BE THE FIRST ON SUPPORTING THIS

XD

now, about 3rd joystick... i don?t see how to use.

i feel that 3x2 button may be useful, and this device can have a good touchpad for improving (nothing of keyboard, please)

a touchpad may be used as joystick for MOBA games, for potions, magic, etc (this is the reason why GPD want to add more sticks)
My advice is to adding Z, C buttons, and a Optical Thumb Mouse or simple Touchpad for improving the experience of MOBA gamers.

Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: NTMBK on March 07, 2016, 01:42:33 pm
Any ideas what chip this will be powered by? The new Rockchip processor (RK3368) uses a slower CPU than the chip in the XD1.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Deen0X on March 07, 2016, 01:54:54 pm
there are few comments pointing that is x86 (most probably, the same as GPD-Win)
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on March 07, 2016, 01:55:26 pm
Any ideas what chip this will be powered by? The new Rockchip processor (RK3368) uses a slower CPU than the chip in the XD1.

If they use a Rockchip they will keep 3288 or most probably the new 3399 with mali 880. I wouldn't discard they use the same z8550 x86 because they perform well in android too.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: eragon2890 on March 07, 2016, 02:36:02 pm
Any ideas what chip this will be powered by? The new Rockchip processor (RK3368) uses a slower CPU than the chip in the XD1.

If they use a Rockchip they will keep 3288 or most probably the new 3399 with mali 880. I wouldn't discard they use the same z8550 x86 because they perform well in android too.

Agreed. The 3368 is slower because it's lower-budget, like the 3066 was to the 3188.

Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: eragon2890 on March 07, 2016, 02:42:57 pm
Looks as if everything that is in the pipeline (the GPD win and the XD2) will use those horrid face buttons.

I love the analogs, the dpad, and the shoulder buttons, but I reallllyyyy hope that the buttons will be a lot less mushy and more firm like the latest XD have. I can live with it for most games now, but it's still annoying. Especially the X/square button  moves around a bit in the casing (quite a lot, but only when I have my thumb on it, not by itself or anything) and feels so soft. It whobbles under my thumb noticably when it's not pressed in... Also whenever I push it I hear these squishy sounds - none of the others do that at all almost. It works fine tough, it just annnoooyyssss meeee.. It's the only thing that si better on the new 3ds xl, the ABXY buttons (with that thing, the horrid click-clack noise and feeling of the dpad would drive me insane if I bought one too. And the 3ds's shoulder buttons and analogs are shit).


But they probably have fixed that anyway. It's the only thing that really needed improvement on the XD IMHO

Then there is price. I just dropped all hope of getting a WIN due to the moneys, but with this foldable screen and all that, it's great off course, but I am really afraid it will cost 200 dollars or more, but I will probably only buy one if the base modelis 150 or less like the 16 GB XD -1 (I paid 127).

If this turn out to expensive, I will probably (somewhere around october after this is out) just get a second XD for 150 for the better-feeling non-squishy-sounds buttons and be done with it...
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on March 07, 2016, 04:21:10 pm
Any ideas what chip this will be powered by? The new Rockchip processor (RK3368) uses a slower CPU than the chip in the XD1.

If they use a Rockchip they will keep 3288 or most probably the new 3399 with mali 880. I wouldn't discard they use the same z8550 x86 because they perform well in android too.

Agreed. The 3368 is slower because it's lower-budget, like the 3066 was to the 3188.

The 3368 is also exclusive for tvboxes, there is no tablet version of it, so that cannot use that. My guess is the RK3399 or the z8550 if they buy too much product to intel.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: mr.white on March 07, 2016, 04:28:42 pm
Can't see the pics only broken links. Doing anything wrong?
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: eragon2890 on March 07, 2016, 04:38:25 pm
Any ideas what chip this will be powered by? The new Rockchip processor (RK3368) uses a slower CPU than the chip in the XD1.

If they use a Rockchip they will keep 3288 or most probably the new 3399 with mali 880. I wouldn't discard they use the same z8550 x86 because they perform well in android too.

Agreed. The 3368 is slower because it's lower-budget, like the 3066 was to the 3188.

The 3368 is also exclusive for tvboxes, there is no tablet version of it, so that cannot use that. My guess is the RK3399 or the z8550 if they buy too much product to intel.

I won't buy it if it's z8550, not only is the GPU much weaker then even what is used in rk3288 let alone 3399, but also a TON of android games/apps are not compiled for x86! That would be trash ...
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: tonyp1987 on March 07, 2016, 04:47:27 pm
Hope the new Gpd xd2 can play dolphin emulator and maybe ps2 that would be cool but when the new Gpd xd2 comes out I will give my son the first Gpd xd (red 64gb) so he can play some great classics too.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Deen0X on March 07, 2016, 06:21:45 pm
I won't buy it if it's z8550, not only is the GPU much weaker then even what is used in rk3288 let alone 3399, but also a TON of android games/apps are not compiled for x86! That would be trash ...

which games are not compatibles? (i'm curious)
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on March 07, 2016, 10:41:06 pm
Well from what I read in other Baidu threads, what is named the GPD XD2 started off being called the GPD MAX. The idea was meant to be a larger version of the XD.  ie like the 3DS XL is just a larger version of the 3DS. They did say initially that it would maintain the RK3288

No one liked the GPD MAX name , so they changed it to XD2 with consideration for a SOC upgrade.   So their thinking started of as a XL version of the XD, but now it's more  towards a real XD2 .   We will have to see

Anyway, I also agree on the RK3299, seems it would be a good choice.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Deen0X on March 07, 2016, 10:48:06 pm
as i understand, MAX series is the large version of their current normal devices, starting with GPD-XD
These versions will keep the same SoC than their original, but with large display (7~8 inches)
is something like what GPD is doing last time, but now with a proper line of products:

GPD-G5A -> GPD-G7
GPD-G58 -> GPD Q series
GPD-XD -> GPD-XD MAX (this case will keep the RK3288 2GB RAM, and the only change will be the screen size)

maybe i missunderstand some points, but as i understand this is what GPD want to do.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on March 07, 2016, 10:51:51 pm
No, there was a thread were they said they would give up the MAX name and call it the XD2 .   At close to the same time , they said they would use a 6" screen rather than 7" as initially pplanned.  The XD2 is the rename of the MAX.  The MAX doesn't exist anymore.

Obviously as they got a lot of user input on their forums, things are probably fluid at the moment so many people wanted more than the RK3288 again, that their plans changed to more a true XD2 rather than an XL version of the XD. So yes, they will use a new SOC, hopefully the RK3299 (IMO). But that's the history

This is what they said at the time:

"Since many people oppose the XD Max, the program will be changed to XD2, upgrade the master chip"
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Deen0X on March 07, 2016, 11:00:23 pm
ok.
(is so difficult to search anything on baidu forums...)
i remember read something about MAX and Q series, someone do the same relationship that i mentioned, and i figured was a good move from GPD.

now i read on other place (sorry, i don?t know how to mention where is. was some on baidu .. "thing") that most probably GPD-XD2 and GPD-Win would share firmwares, and based on this i can figure they (GPD) are thinking on adopt cherrytrail for their GPD-XD2.
One of the reasons they commented is because on windows now you can play with dolphin, and android cannot do this (referencing to the new versions of dolphin that allow to play without problems GC games)

i don?t know. is so heavy to understand what people say on chinese forums, because translator is so weird with many words. (and more, if i must translate from chinese to english, and from english to spanish for understand something) :S

hope you get better luck than me reading on baidu. ^_^
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on March 07, 2016, 11:05:21 pm
Yeah, Google translate is not good for me either.   A lot of times it comes out junk.

Hopefully one day it gets a lot better.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: XenapZ on March 08, 2016, 07:10:46 am
What I want from the GPDXD2 is a bigger screen, bluetooth and 5Ghz wifi.

Seriously, just bluetooth would be awsome, I still cant believe they didnt include it.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: diablotinbouky on March 08, 2016, 10:10:55 am
This morning, gpd confirm me that Xd2 don't share same processor...

Ced
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Deen0X on March 08, 2016, 10:18:33 am
sad news (almost, for me)

i think using the same processor the device will be more polivalent, with a very good performance in both andtoid and windows.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: NTMBK on March 08, 2016, 11:15:10 am
This morning, gpd confirm me that Xd2 don't share same processor...

Ced

Do you mean doesn't share with XD1, or doesn't share with WIN?
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Lexi on March 08, 2016, 11:28:13 am
I won't buy it if it's z8550, not only is the GPU much weaker then even what is used in rk3288 let alone 3399, but also a TON of android games/apps are not compiled for x86! That would be trash ...

which games are not compatibles? (i'm curious)

It varies, depending on how GPD does it. Intel has a library for running Android ARM apps on Intel x86 chips. Intel did an astounding job of this and most ARM code runs at native speed on x86. Because of this, if it's used in x86 devices, compatibility is very high, but not quite perfect as there are still issues with it. Overall, having x86 is more than worth it.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on March 08, 2016, 11:45:50 am
I must admit I'm more excited to see the RK3399 in the XD2 than the Z8550.   It should at least have a better graphics GPU with it's mali t860
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: diablotinbouky on March 08, 2016, 11:47:54 am
This morning, gpd confirm me that Xd2 don't share same processor...

Ced

Do you mean doesn't share with XD1, or doesn't share with WIN?

With the Gpd Win
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on March 08, 2016, 11:49:13 am
This morning, gpd confirm me that Xd2 don't share same processor...

Ced

Do you mean doesn't share with XD1, or doesn't share with WIN?

With the Gpd Win

How did they confirm that with you: Twitter, email, forum .....??
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Deen0X on March 08, 2016, 11:58:31 am
I won't buy it if it's z8550, not only is the GPU much weaker then even what is used in rk3288 let alone 3399, but also a TON of android games/apps are not compiled for x86! That would be trash ...

which games are not compatibles? (i'm curious)

It varies, depending on how GPD does it. Intel has a library for running Android ARM apps on Intel x86 chips. Intel did an astounding job of this and most ARM code runs at native speed on x86. Because of this, if it's used in x86 devices, compatibility is very high, but not quite perfect as there are still issues with it. Overall, having x86 is more than worth it.

yes, i know this, but on every post about android running on x86 there are some guys that mention this, but i really don?t know which games really can?t run on x86
maybe there are some, but i'm sure the most popular games and apps currently are running without problems on x86 android versions, then i don?t get the point on complain about x86 soc usage. i think, better is asking for these rare cases of apps that cannot run on x86 device, to their programmers to fix them.

really, i can?t see the problem. for now, i can play any game i want to play on x86 versions without issues, and for this reason i'm asking about these games that "cannot run" on x86 platform.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: p0rt4bl3_add1ct on March 10, 2016, 03:01:51 am
Any possibility of GPD XD2 having tegra k1/X1 SOC or it is not possible as JXD will launch its handheld with NVIDA SOC?
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: cybermat on March 10, 2016, 12:32:23 pm
RK3399 would be a nice improvement and let me say Android is good for some emulators but for Mame is a nightmare.
RK3399 + WIN is the way (imho)






Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Deen0X on March 10, 2016, 01:30:58 pm
RK3399 + WIN is the way (imho)

this cannot be done...

device must be ARM (RK3399) or intel (for windows)
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: cybermat on March 11, 2016, 10:35:31 am
I heard about an agreement with Microsoft ....it was not concluded ?
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Deen0X on March 11, 2016, 11:24:04 am
ein?

what do you mean?

this is not about agreements or not. simply is different architecture. Windows (standard version, not phone/mobile) CANNOT run on ARM devices.

you may confuse with Continuum, that  (as i readed) will include mobile versions to become a "standard" version, but this mean there are need of translator ARM-x86, but this is away to be useful for gaming, but this is another story.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: shinkamui on March 11, 2016, 04:19:38 pm
I think the bigger issue is not whether windows 10's common core will run on arm (it does), but more the complete lack of software compiled for arm.  The universal app ecosystem would be the only saving grace, but, there isn't a single emulator for windows 10 built as a universal app that im aware of.  and the game list on the windows 10 store that are universal is pretty near non existant.  Unless you want to buy a gaming handheld with physical controls to play candy crush style mobile titles, this would be a terrible investment.  The only reason to run windows here is to run x86 binaries, so intel/amd+win or arm+android are your only realistic options for a gaming device like this.   While i would love to see a linux handheld, if GPD handles the uefi properly on the GPD win, it will be optional there (android/windows/linux handheld options?  IM IN!)
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: cybermat on March 14, 2016, 04:29:29 pm
ein?

what do you mean?

this is not about agreements or not. simply is different architecture. Windows (standard version, not phone/mobile) CANNOT run on ARM devices.

you may confuse with Continuum, that  (as i readed) will include mobile versions to become a "standard" version, but this mean there are need of translator ARM-x86, but this is away to be useful for gaming, but this is another story.

Thanks for clarification. So at today...X86 is the big deal .

Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: LordDavon on March 14, 2016, 05:11:15 pm
You may be thinking about Windows RT, which is Windows for ARM.  I don't think Microsoft is supporting it any longer, since it was a closed system, didn't sell well, and Intel Atom processors are coming into their own, making it no longer needed.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: D1PTAR on March 14, 2016, 07:43:28 pm
If the XD2 doesn't run dual boot I guess I'd just go for the GPD Win instead. The bigger screen and extra stick look great however. It'd be a bit of shame because I love this design but couldn't really justify buying when I already have an XD1 if it's android only. It would be nice to know for certain before the Indiegogo campaign ends.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on March 14, 2016, 09:41:32 pm
I think I saw that their current thinking is for the XD2 to be Android only.

When you think about it, if both the WIN and XD2 were dual boot, then why would you have two products, they would eventually be one product.  At this stage I think they want to keep them separate.  They did write a thread(on the chinese forum) about the XD and WIN being separate products
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Deen0X on March 14, 2016, 10:22:40 pm
well, i think is a very good idea on releasing two products that share hardware.

i mean, my bet was that GPD-XD2 was the same hardware than GPD-WIN, but with other features such 6" screen, 360? screen rotation and NO keyboard.
GPD-WIN will offer a keyboard that become as standard UMPC (micro-notebook)

if both of them share the same hardware, then GPD can release 3 flavors of operating systems that can be flashed on both devices:
Windows pure firmware
Android pure firmware
DualOS (Android & Windows)

this way, users can choice which device prefer depends on their needs, and which operating system want to install on it.

for GPD, this is a very easy way to update software. If they want to release a firmware with Android 6.0, users can install on any of the devices (Win or XD2).

for me, this is the best way to improve their current GPD-XD device

now,GPD will keep using ARM on their GPD-XD2. ok, nice, but what you get with this improved hardware? (assuming is the RK3399)
Better preformance, ok.
Better GPU, ok.

is there any software (except the NVidia specific apps) that you cannot run on RK3288 (GPD-XD as example)?
is there any software that RK3288 power is not enough, but RK3399 can run now?

I really don?t see a real improvement on using RK3399 on the new device. The design is a good improvement, ok, but the power will be wasted really.

the new SoC is an octacore? great!, but for emulation, most of emulators only uses 2 cores... (and there are some of them that are mono-core)
Don?t misundestand to me. Of course, everyone want better devices, better speed, etc. but currently android gaming evolution is stopped from a while, and there is no new releases that requires a better machine for running.

For all these reasons, i think a x86 SoC such the X8550 of GPD-Win is a very good implementation, because you get the same and enough power for running almost any android game or program, and you get the possibility to run another OS such Windows, or Linux Distro, etc. something that RK3399 cannot offer (almost for now)
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: eragon2890 on March 14, 2016, 10:27:05 pm
well, i think is a very good idea on releasing two products that share hardware.

i mean, my bet was that GPD-XD2 was the same hardware than GPD-WIN, but with other features such 6" screen, 360? screen rotation and NO keyboard.
GPD-WIN will offer a keyboard that become as standard UMPC (micro-notebook)

if both of them share the same hardware, then GPD can release 3 flavors of operating systems that can be flashed on both devices:
Windows pure firmware
Android pure firmware
DualOS (Android & Windows)

this way, users can choice which device prefer depends on their needs, and which operating system want to install on it.

for GPD, this is a very easy way to update software. If they want to release a firmware with Android 6.0, users can install on any of the devices (Win or XD2).

for me, this is the best way to improve their current GPD-XD device

now,GPD will keep using ARM on their GPD-XD2. ok, nice, but what you get with this improved hardware? (assuming is the RK3399)
Better preformance, ok.
Better GPU, ok.

is there any software (except the NVidia specific apps) that you cannot run on RK3288 (GPD-XD as example)?
is there any software that RK3288 power is not enough, but RK3399 can run now?

I really don?t see a real improvement on using RK3399 on the new device. The design is a good improvement, ok, but the power will be wasted really.

the new SoC is an octacore? great!, but for emulation, most of emulators only uses 2 cores... (and there are some of them that are mono-core)
Don?t misundestand to me. Of course, everyone want better devices, better speed, etc. but currently android gaming evolution is stopped from a while, and there is no new releases that requires a better machine for running.

For all these reasons, i think a x86 SoC such the X8550 of GPD-Win is a very good implementation, because you get the same and enough power for running almost any android game or program, and you get the possibility to run another OS such Windows, or Linux Distro, etc. something that RK3399 cannot offer (almost for now)

Better GPU is important, and epsxe in high res can use 4 cores (and will need that for speed) so 8 faster cores (4 for emu, 4 to do system tasks) would probably be a huge  improvement for that. And not counting that some (like ppsspp) have options to run certain parts (like io or what have you) on a separate thread...
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Deen0X on March 14, 2016, 10:42:07 pm
ok, understand your point.
my point of view is some more... i don?t know. simple.
i know that emulators may need more power for adding filters, etc. PSX you mention need more power and cores for Hi-Res.
ok.
but, this really is something that make to you to buy another new device, only for better look of the games that you can play currently on other devices?

i mean, for some (or many?) users, this may be enough for go to buy this new device with better hardware, but for most of users, that only want to wimply play, i think they really don?t care about these things.
if people can play PSX in normal mode (without enhanced graphics, etc) they will play in any case. I think advanced users that requires better hardware for running their games with better resolution, better filters, etc, are not so much people (or almost, i think this)

This is a simple iteration of harware of their product. is not a real step for running other kind of sofware that the previous version can do.
Another thing may be if this hardware can run Dolphin (Wii and Gamecube). this may be a good implementation of the hardware and may be a good reason for buying the new device, but as i know, Dolphin will not run on RK3399 (almost, for now)... but you can play Gamecube if you run Windows (using cherrytrail).
I mean, using cherrytrail there is a big and notorious difference than only updating from RK3288 to RK3399...
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: eragon2890 on March 14, 2016, 10:44:34 pm
ok, understand your point.
my point of view is some more... i don?t know. simple.
i know that emulators may need more power for adding filters, etc. PSX you mention need more power and cores for Hi-Res.
ok.
but, this really is something that make to you to buy another new device, only for better look of the games that you can play currently on other devices?

i mean, for some (or many?) users, this may be enough for go to buy this new device with better hardware, but for most of users, that only want to wimply play, i think they really don?t care about these things.
if people can play PSX in normal mode (without enhanced graphics, etc) they will play in any case. I think advanced users that requires better hardware for running their games with better resolution, better filters, etc, are not so much people (or almost, i think this)

This is a simple iteration of harware of their product. is not a real step for running other kind of sofware that the previous version can do.
Another thing may be if this hardware can run Dolphin (Wii and Gamecube). this may be a good implementation of the hardware and may be a good reason for buying the new device, but as i know, Dolphin will not run on RK3399 (almost, for now)... but you can play Gamecube if you run Windows (using cherrytrail).
I mean, using cherrytrail there is a big and notorious difference than only updating from RK3288 to RK3399...

No no I agree, I just meant to say that for this new device (it's still niche product, most people don't know these exist, so a lot of potential buyers are still out there) it's not "overkill" of them to go wtih a 3399 instead of a 3288. Not that people who have an xd might buy this for that, but it's not like it's overkill ie so  powerfull that it's not sensible anymore...

I mean most buyers would probably be people who have never heard of gpd before given how niche they are...
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Deen0X on March 14, 2016, 11:01:07 pm
but, GPD want to release a device for mass interest on people, not only for new potential users.

I mean, if there is some user that own a GPD device, when look this new device must think "whoaaa... i want this"
I think the design help to this direction.
the problem is when users looks for the hardware and, with a little info, may consider that the hardware really will not be enough for the change, but maybe the design yes.

myself, i really love the new design, but i think is not enough for do the change. my current XD allow to me to play anything on it, and really don?t need another device.

(yes, i'm cycling on my arguments. sorry)

anyway. i think GPD must go for massive interest, not only on people that will meet their brand soon. (pfff. sometimes i get stucked when i try to write on english... sorry... i'm a little bit tired now) :S
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: RetrospectiveGaming on March 21, 2016, 11:51:53 pm
I hope we get more information soon ... I was planning on buying the GPD XD but I'm waiting for this
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on March 22, 2016, 12:21:07 am
I have a feeling they may wait until after the GPD WIN Indiegogo campaign before providing more info on the XD2.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: RetrospectiveGaming on March 22, 2016, 03:30:40 am
Yea I think they will do that ....I'm really impatient but its a short wait
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: MOFO on March 27, 2016, 08:30:47 pm
I'm a little late to the party but any info or pics of this thing, the little info I did gather is its going to have 3 analog sticks!????
That's crazy and don't see the point, on the hardware side I like the idea of sharing components with the XD WIN and having dual OS's or at least have the option of running one or the other.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: RetrospectiveGaming on April 01, 2016, 05:56:58 am
I'm really thinking between getting this or the regular GPD XD ... I wonder what the specs will be ...if the battery sucks Ill go with the original ... the GPD XD can already play Dreamcast and PSP so how much can GPD XD 2 improve?
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: eragon2890 on April 01, 2016, 07:24:03 am
Maybe the third joystick is for people who ffind the xbox 360 lsyout more comfortable?
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Chris23235 on April 01, 2016, 08:50:22 am
I'm really thinking between getting this or the regular GPD XD ... I wonder what the specs will be ...if the battery sucks Ill go with the original ... the GPD XD can already play Dreamcast and PSP so how much can GPD XD 2 improve?

Next Stop: Playstation 2 and Gamecube  ;D
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Deen0X on April 01, 2016, 09:11:15 am
Maybe the third joystick is for people who ffind the xbox 360 lsyout more comfortable?

this is a very interesting suggestion.
but then both sticks duplicate their function?

i think better is some app that allow to change the functions, right stick + mousestick, mousestick + right stick (inverted config), right stick1 + right stick 2 (for use with mapping tool, that what is originally designed for MOBA games)
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Deen0X on April 01, 2016, 09:20:30 am
well, they confirmed on Baidu days ago too.

snif!...
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: RetrospectiveGaming on April 01, 2016, 11:44:15 pm
I'm really thinking between getting this or the regular GPD XD ... I wonder what the specs will be ...if the battery sucks Ill go with the original ... the GPD XD can already play Dreamcast and PSP so how much can GPD XD 2 improve?

Next Stop: Playstation 2 and Gamecube  ;D

I would love to see that
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: tonyp1987 on April 03, 2016, 07:51:47 pm
If they are able to pull off ps2 & gamecube I would be in gamer heaven because I can play the ps2 star ocean and devil may cry 1-3, dark cloud 1&2, naruto games, metriod 1&2, mario sunshine, loz wind walkers & loz twilight princess, tales of abyss, gow 1&2.....etc portable lol.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: eragon2890 on April 03, 2016, 08:17:46 pm
If they are able to pull off ps2 & gamecube I would be in gamer heaven because I can play the ps2 star ocean and devil may cry 1-3, dark cloud 1&2, naruto games, metriod 1&2, mario sunshine, loz wind walkers & loz twilight princess, tales of abyss, gow 1&2.....etc portable lol.

if you have a 3ds... tales of the abyss has come out for 3ds, so if you have one you can play it on there :)
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: RetrospectiveGaming on April 04, 2016, 04:59:15 am
I'm just wondering if there are any differences in specs or its just something cosmetic
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on April 04, 2016, 10:20:34 am
I'm just wondering if there are any differences in specs or its just something cosmetic

There will be an upgrade in specs. Most probably the new rockchip 3399 when it comes out I guess.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Chris23235 on April 04, 2016, 10:39:15 am
I'm just wondering if there are any differences in specs or its just something cosmetic

There will be an upgrade in specs. Most probably the new rockchip 3399 when it comes out I guess.

This would be nice, the 3399 has 6 CPU cores and the Mail t864 GPU supports h.265 decoding.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Saber on April 04, 2016, 10:42:13 am
well, they confirmed on Baidu days ago too.
Confirmed the third stick is exclusively for mouse navigation?
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: eragon2890 on April 04, 2016, 11:23:36 am
I'm just wondering if there are any differences in specs or its just something cosmetic

There will be an upgrade in specs. Most probably the new rockchip 3399 when it comes out I guess.

This would be nice, the 3399 has 6 CPU cores and the Mail t864 GPU supports h.265 decoding.

AFAIK, the rk3288 SOC was the first one on the planet to support hardware 4k h.265 decoding, so doesn't the xD have that already?
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on April 04, 2016, 11:45:03 am
It does indeed, but I think it supporti it at 30 fps in 4k I think.

Amlogic devices are genereally better for video decoding (though worse for gaming)
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Chris23235 on April 04, 2016, 11:47:03 am
I'm just wondering if there are any differences in specs or its just something cosmetic

There will be an upgrade in specs. Most probably the new rockchip 3399 when it comes out I guess.

This would be nice, the 3399 has 6 CPU cores and the Mail t864 GPU supports h.265 decoding.

AFAIK, the rk3288 SOC was the first one on the planet to support hardware 4k h.265 decoding, so doesn't the xD have that already?

Oh nice, wasn't aware of it.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: RetrospectiveGaming on April 06, 2016, 06:46:12 am
I'm just wondering if there are any differences in specs or its just something cosmetic

There will be an upgrade in specs. Most probably the new rockchip 3399 when it comes out I guess.


Thanks! ... I saw a good deal on a new GPD XD 64 GB ...but I skipped on it because  of GPD XD 2
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: eragon2890 on April 06, 2016, 08:32:51 am
It does indeed, but I think it supporti it at 30 fps in 4k I think.

Amlogic devices are genereally better for video decoding (though worse for gaming)

nope, 60 XD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0BtReb6JWk
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: sevo on April 08, 2016, 03:31:36 am
Any estimated release date for the XD2?
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: RetrospectiveGaming on April 09, 2016, 12:52:28 am
Any estimated release date for the XD2?

Someone else made a point and I think its true ...They are probably going to wait until the indiegogo campaign for the GPD Win is done
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on April 09, 2016, 01:04:53 am
Yes, given how disasterously the GPD XD 128GB Indiegogo is going being at the same time as the GPD WIN Indiegogo.  I'd say you won't hear a peep until after the WIN Indiegogo is finished.

Kit did say they thought it would be next year though, but they were not sure, we will have to see. Ive seen comments to the effect of it being this year, and comments to the effect of it being next year.  That said, I doubt it will be released soon as they are probably still waiting on the RK3399 to come out. 
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: RetrospectiveGaming on April 09, 2016, 04:33:37 am
Yes, given how disasterously the GPD XD 128GB Indiegogo is going being at the same time as the GPD WIN Indiegogo.  I'd say you won't hear a peep until after the WIN Indiegogo is finished.

Kit did say they thought it would be next year though, but they were not sure, we will have to see. Ive seen comments to the effect of it being this year, and comments to the effect of it being next year.  That said, I doubt it will be released soon as they are probably still waiting on the RK3399 to come out.

Do you think it will make much of a difference in performance? ... from what I've read about the GPD XD it can run dreamcast and PSP games so I guess the goal is with GPD XD 2 is to run them more efficiently?
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Chris23235 on April 11, 2016, 01:53:12 pm
Yes, given how disasterously the GPD XD 128GB Indiegogo is going being at the same time as the GPD WIN Indiegogo.  I'd say you won't hear a peep until after the WIN Indiegogo is finished.

Kit did say they thought it would be next year though, but they were not sure, we will have to see. Ive seen comments to the effect of it being this year, and comments to the effect of it being next year.  That said, I doubt it will be released soon as they are probably still waiting on the RK3399 to come out.

Do you think it will make much of a difference in performance? ... from what I've read about the GPD XD it can run dreamcast and PSP games so I guess the goal is with GPD XD 2 is to run them more efficiently?

Most Dreamcast games are not fullspeed without frameskip. PSP emulation is close to fullspeed on the XD (sometimes reaching it without frameskip), but the emulator allows you to increase the rendering resolution, which results in a much better visual experience, the XD is too slow for that. The Sega Saturn emulation would benefit from more power as well.
So more power would be nice for these systems.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on April 11, 2016, 01:56:29 pm
Yes, given how disasterously the GPD XD 128GB Indiegogo is going being at the same time as the GPD WIN Indiegogo.  I'd say you won't hear a peep until after the WIN Indiegogo is finished.

Kit did say they thought it would be next year though, but they were not sure, we will have to see. Ive seen comments to the effect of it being this year, and comments to the effect of it being next year.  That said, I doubt it will be released soon as they are probably still waiting on the RK3399 to come out.

Do you think it will make much of a difference in performance? ... from what I've read about the GPD XD it can run dreamcast and PSP games so I guess the goal is with GPD XD 2 is to run them more efficiently?

Most Dreamcast games are not fullspeed without frameskip. PSP emulation is close to fullspeed on the XD (sometimes reaching it without frameskip), but the emulator allows you to increase the rendering resolution, which results in a much better visual experience, the XD is too slow for that. The Sega Saturn emulation would benefit from more power as well.
So more power would be nice for these systems.

Which DC game need frameskip in the current XD? I still haven't found any, just cuirosity, maybe there are some, but all seems to run fullspeed for me with frameskip 0. At least I don't see differences with my real DC. I agree with PPSSPP and Saturn. Should be better with a faster chipset.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Chris23235 on April 11, 2016, 01:58:40 pm
Try checking the framerate with GL Tools instead of the built in framerate counter, it's more accurate. When you run e.g. Daytona USA, you will see that the framerate is most of the time below 30 and the emulator skips frames regardless if you enable skipping in the settings or not.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on April 11, 2016, 02:08:28 pm
Try checking the framerate with GL Tools instead of the built in framerate counter, it's more accurate. When you run e.g. Daytona USA, you will see that the framerate is most of the time below 30 and the emulator skips frames regardless if you enable skipping in the settings or not.

Reicast render asychronously by default, like NullDC, that's why FPS counters are not 100 percent accurate with reicast. I don't notice difference in daytona USA in reicast and a real hardware, except for a few glitches in graphics, because Daytona ran at 30 fps in real hardware, like MSR. Try with synchronous rendering option in reicast. not all DC games worked at 60 fps. In fact, I have a shield tablet k1 and reicast runs exactly the same than in my X_D, so I don't think it's a lack of power issue.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Chris23235 on April 11, 2016, 02:39:31 pm
It's hard to tell, but I find it much more rough when it comes to framerate than on the real hardware and what GL Tools tells me (constantly below 30 FPS) seems to match how I experience the game on the XD.

Ikaruga has definitely massive frame skips at the intro of the first level.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on April 11, 2016, 02:48:20 pm
But Ikaruga had slowndowns in the intro in a real DC too. I think it's more he way reicast renders graphics (no vsync in android) than a power issue, because in my shield tablet it runs the same way.....
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Chris23235 on April 11, 2016, 02:49:56 pm
Maybe it is more an issue of frame timings, rather than of frame rate. This may be the case.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on April 12, 2016, 08:17:11 pm
I think one of the biggest issues that needs to be addressed is that the next Xd should have simple to install over the air updates like most android phones/tablets. Not everyone owns a computer nor in this date in time should anyone have to use one just to update firmware.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Chris23235 on April 12, 2016, 08:28:29 pm
You already can update the firmware without a computer, even when you don't use the over the air update program. Just download the firmware with the webbrowser of the XD and unpack it to the SD card. No need for a computer.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on April 26, 2016, 11:55:21 pm
So on Baidu, GPD have estimated that the crowdfunding for the XD 2 will happen late in the year.  This will probably be a Chinese crowd funding.   It probably means the XD 2 would then be out next year some time.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Pleng on April 27, 2016, 08:28:07 am
On the Q9 I definitely need frame skip of 1 for Daytona when racing with 40 cars on anything but the first track. Never tried with less cars, maybe that makes a difference.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: eragon2890 on April 27, 2016, 08:48:46 am
gPD XD 2 only next year? *cries* with the amount of usage I get out of my GPD XD-1 I kind of expect it to go into "retirement due to age" sometime this year's August (the one year mark) I was hoping I could replace it with a 2. So far I have been using these things so much it's like use it 6 hours a day for a year and it's understandably worn out, throw it in the bin, get next one which is better. XD

But I love my XD enough to live with a second one XD Plus my q9 still works perfectly, that could tild me over XD the Vita games are too expensive to buy enough to last me a year XD and pc and ps4 aren't really portable D:

TLDR: I want an XD2 by this year's August damnit! XD

Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: BahamutxD on April 28, 2016, 12:48:59 am
My check/wish list for a GPD XD2

- Better battery because this is always welcome.
- Better buttons placement and quality (L/R 1/2) and please swap START for Back button. Really...
- Brightness button, atleast a button that can trigger the brightness bar so I don't need to close the game, open menus...
- Better WiFi (5Ghz) This is actually quite important as it will enable the thing to stream games much better.

Would be awesome to have.

-Better quality screen and overall build quality (the plastic is made of)
-Lighter and or smaller in size
-Bluetooth

If they need to up the price for all of this is fine, this device is king but just don't go crazy on it, unless you can guarantee gamecube/DC/wii emulation, better specs and higher prices are not worth if you cant emulate more demanding things!

Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: equlizer on April 28, 2016, 06:14:46 am
For brightness i use a program called "display brightness free".  It gives you a slider up top (even in games) to adjust brightness.

My check/wish list for a GPD XD2

- Better battery because this is always welcome.
- Better buttons placement and quality (L/R 1/2) and please swap START for Back button. Really...
- Brightness button, atleast a button that can trigger the brightness bar so I don't need to close the game, open menus...
- Better WiFi (5Ghz) This is actually quite important as it will enable the thing to stream games much better.

Would be awesome to have.

-Better quality screen and overall build quality (the plastic is made of)
-Lighter and or smaller in size
-Bluetooth

If they need to up the price for all of this is fine, this device is king but just don't go crazy on it, unless you can guarantee gamecube/DC/wii emulation, better specs and higher prices are not worth if you cant emulate more demanding things!
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: MOFO on June 10, 2016, 11:06:47 am
So any new info on the XD2?
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on June 10, 2016, 11:07:53 am
@MOFO

No , they have been pretty silent on the XD2 with everything else going on.  I suspect you will hear more after the crowd fundings for the WIN
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on June 10, 2016, 11:09:10 am
So any new info on the XD2?

No, and don't expect it soon, I suppose they will release GPD-WIN first and after that they will begin to make GPD Xd2. The new RK3399 is not ready yet, so I wouldn't expect it until the end of year as a minimum.

I am personally not in a hurry, the current GPD XD is a great device, well made and with good peformance/battery life. More than enough for my needs.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on June 10, 2016, 11:23:50 am
Well the last I heard them say on the XD2 , was that they are planning a crowdfunding for it towards the end of the year. 
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on June 10, 2016, 11:39:14 am
Well the last I heard them say on the XD2 , was that they are planning a crowdfunding for it towards the end of the year.

Yep, but they will release even without the crowdfunding. As far as I know they are renewed their partnership with RK, so the 3399 is the way to go I guess, because it will cheaper for them being an "official" partner.

The 3399 will be mid range too, so I wouldn't expect a huge difference with the current RK3288.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on June 10, 2016, 12:02:08 pm
I don't think , well IMO, there was any real doubt they would use anything but the RK3399. 

I did see this recent video Charbax put out saying they are ready for mass production and that samples have been sent to customers

http://liliputing.com/2016/06/rockchip-rk3399-hexa-core-chip-coming-soon-tablets-vr-headsets.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wvt0TdB5uII
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on June 10, 2016, 12:06:25 pm
Yeah, but GPd told me that they will be receiving about september more or less, because first boords will be for tvboxes, and after that they will begin tablet board.

GPD considered MTK for their next device, but I suppose they decided to continue with RK, they are used to their SDK for making the android firmwares. And Tegra sells their boards very expensive for other manufacturers (unless thet buy very big quantities). an example is the overpriced JXD s192 which even use the older tegra k1 board (ardbeg) and an outdated SDK (probably because if they give JXD a recent SDK for LP or MM it would cost even more)
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on June 10, 2016, 12:12:16 pm
I look forward to the XD2, it looks like it will be an interesting device with it's 360 degree swivel screen
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on June 10, 2016, 12:57:08 pm

I saw a a couple of SOCs they talked about considering, but I honestly never believed they would stray from Rockchip. Call it a gut feeling.

Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on June 10, 2016, 01:51:19 pm

I saw a a couple of SOCs they talked about considering, but I honestly never believed they would stray from Rockchip. Call it a gut feeling.

Being a partner of RK has its benefits, you get constant updates from their SDK, and they can but a few SoC at low price. With other SoC like Tegra or Snapdragon you have to buy large quantities to get a good price.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: indstr on June 10, 2016, 10:14:40 pm
But Ikaruga had slowndowns in the intro in a real DC too. I think it's more he way reicast renders graphics (no vsync in android) than a power issue, because in my shield tablet it runs the same way.....

Sorry, I just noticed this post.

Many shmups have intentional slowdown that is placed there by the developers. Cave games do this too. It makes sense, when there are 10 million bullets on the screen, the game slows down to make it humanly possible for players to weave through the bullets.

Funny story, when I first started playing bullet hell games in 2007, I was frustrated about the slowdown in MAME so I started using Finalburn Alpha and ramped the speed up so there was no slowdown. Then I was confused as to why the games were so hard.   Then somebody on the shmups forum explained to me that the slowdown was supposed to be there.   Needless to say, I had a little facepalm moment   :)
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: p0rt4bl3_add1ct on June 11, 2016, 11:34:47 pm
I am so curious about the SOC they will put inside GPD XD 2. Hope they will use a great one like Tegra K1 or X1.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on June 12, 2016, 02:25:45 am
I am so curious about the SOC they will put inside GPD XD 2. Hope they will use a great one like Tegra K1 or X1.

I haven't seen any benchmarks for the RK3399 yet, but I suspect it will be similar to the Tegra K1 if not slightly better.
I guess we should see benchmarks in the near future
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: siegel17701 on June 21, 2016, 09:40:02 pm
Any chance this thing comes with 4g/lte.

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Null on July 01, 2016, 03:32:41 am
Do I wait for the win and xd2 or just go for the xd this late in the game? I didn't even know of this product until about a week ago and then been on the fence if I should hold out or just go for the xd1?

I really want to be able to stream skyrim from my gaming pc. Is this something that will work well with the current xd1 2.4ghz or wait for a 5ghz?

Thanks for your thoughts. Also I love idea of this being a pocket size device for portability that's why I never looked Much into the shield

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: JustBeKrillin on July 01, 2016, 04:20:54 am
Do I wait for the win and xd2 or just go for the xd this late in the game? I didn't even know of this product until about a week ago and then been on the fence if I should hold out or just go for the xd1?

I really want to be able to stream skyrim from my gaming pc. Is this something that will work well with the current xd1 2.4ghz or wait for a 5ghz?

Thanks for your thoughts. Also I love idea of this being a pocket size device for portability that's why I never looked Much into the shield

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5 ghz for sure. Either get the Win or nvidia shield portable in my honest opinion.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Null on July 01, 2016, 04:43:06 am
Thanks. Have you had any experience with moonlight on this device? I have watched a video on YouTube of some guy streaming and looked decent enough but I don't want to regret not waiting out for a 5 GHz model if it is noticeably better

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: siegel17701 on July 01, 2016, 09:54:36 am
Thanks. Have you had any experience with moonlight on this device? I have watched a video on YouTube of some guy streaming and looked decent enough but I don't want to regret not waiting out for a 5 GHz model if it is noticeably better

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All depends on your Internet connection. Mine was good on the XD but was weak on other devices. I I got rid of my XD because it was too small for my hands. I button layout gave me cramps after a while.

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Illiterate Scholar on July 01, 2016, 10:11:47 am
I am so curious about the SOC they will put inside GPD XD 2. Hope they will use a great one like Tegra K1 or X1.

I haven't seen any benchmarks for the RK3399 yet, but I suspect it will be similar to the Tegra K1 if not slightly better.
I guess we should see benchmarks in the near future

How is it when it comes to battery life, though? What I LOVE about the original GDP XD is how long the battery can last. I think I got 8 hours of gameplay on graphically intense android games.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on July 01, 2016, 12:34:42 pm
I am so curious about the SOC they will put inside GPD XD 2. Hope they will use a great one like Tegra K1 or X1.

I haven't seen any benchmarks for the RK3399 yet, but I suspect it will be similar to the Tegra K1 if not slightly better.
I guess we should see benchmarks in the near future

How is it when it comes to battery life, though? What I LOVE about the original GDP XD is how long the battery can last. I think I got 8 hours of gameplay on graphically intense android games.

You mean battery life in RK3399? Difficult to know yet, there are no RK3399 tablets yet. The first 3399 devices will be tvboxes which have no battery,
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Chris23235 on July 01, 2016, 01:22:20 pm
Thanks. Have you had any experience with moonlight on this device? I have watched a video on YouTube of some guy streaming and looked decent enough but I don't want to regret not waiting out for a 5 GHz model if it is noticeably better

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It works and if you have a strong enough signal it is totally playable and looks impressive, but I found it a little bit wonky nonetheless, but this is because WiFi Streaming is always a little bit of hit and miss, even more if you live in a neighborhood with dozens of WiFi networks around you.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: siegel17701 on July 01, 2016, 03:04:25 pm
Besides, how can we talk specs for a device that hasn't been confirmed yet.

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: siegel17701 on July 12, 2016, 02:10:19 pm
Any new news?

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: brushpicks11 on July 12, 2016, 02:46:59 pm
I think GPD is totally focused on the Win. I hope the next XD can run the Dolphin emulator that'd be pretty sweet. Plus if it can run all PSP games well and dreamcast games then that'd be such a bonus. Basically my XD now can do almost everything a new iteration seems like it would be a very incremental upgrade.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: MOFO on July 12, 2016, 03:50:09 pm
I have to admit I love the idea of a bigger screen and the ability to fold itself into a tablet, I'm sure there working on it.
The XD seems to be selling pretty good even now so I'm not sure if they are in a rush.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: siegel17701 on July 15, 2016, 10:26:16 pm
Regarding the prototype photos,  were those released by GPD?  I would love for a 128gb model to be released right off the bat.

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Darkdisorder78 on July 21, 2016, 12:06:33 am
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I must admit! I'm a little impatient for information right now on the GPD XD 2. I really am looking forward to this device if in fact it does arrive this year. : )

Do you guys think they will add Bluetooth? and what version of android do you think this thing will run? hopefully not the same version currently in the GPD XD.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: siegel17701 on July 21, 2016, 12:45:39 am
No info,  it's all about the GPD Win right now.  Probably no info til the end of the year

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on July 21, 2016, 07:20:18 am
They told me that they were expecting to mass prodduction of rk3399 chips for tablets. I suppose it will come with Android m i guess, but just a supposition.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: siegel17701 on July 21, 2016, 03:13:42 pm
Is the rk3399 a vast improvement? I am thinking of getting a XD but think I should hold out on XD 2.

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on July 21, 2016, 03:22:57 pm
Is the rk3399 a vast improvement? I am thinking of getting a XD but think I should hold out on XD 2.

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Difficiult to know
 But knlwing rockchip, will be more a mid range device than a high end device, because rockchip makes cheap soc.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: dreamesper on July 21, 2016, 03:27:00 pm
Just to chip in... i doubt that the xd2 will be released in 2017... maybe GPD may shoot for a release of it around mid-late 2018.

I'm sure sales of the first xd are great & they have the GPD WIN to worry about in October... I wouldn't wait if I were anyone for the XD2. Just go for the current XD... it's fantastic!

 :P
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: sleyk on August 02, 2016, 03:27:23 pm
Agree with dreamesper!

But....

If they were gonna release one....

FANTASY FEATURE REQUEST!!!!!

XD-2:

1. Take away the small nintendo like d-pad and use the d-pad on the q9, just like the q9 snagged the joysticks off of the xd. The retro fighter games and gamers will love you! (I will too!)

2.  Slightly bigger screen on the XD. Maybe 5.5 or 6 inch screen? Then, 1080p up that bad boy for glorious gaming!

3. Of course, faster processor if possible. Let's emulate ps2 and perhaps gamecube (maybe????) on this thing!

4. Wireless AC antennas. Or to maybe keep costs down, we can keep wireless N, but please make it dual band. (2.4Ghz/5Ghz)

5. Bluetooth. Yes, bluetooth 4.0 minimum. We need it. Wireless headsets are a thing you know!


Q9-2/Q-10

1. 1080p pixels. Keep the large screen. Love the large screen. Just increase pixel amount to 1080p as well. Can you imagine the amazing gaming you can do on a 1080p 7 inch screen?

2. Same as #3 of the xd-2. Faster processor, (pretty sure it would have one) Maybe allow some sort of windows envirnment dual boot mechanism with a switch/rocker button? Would be awesome to play low level pc games and maybe lesser demanding titles on it. I know GPD win is coming with windows 10 mobile version, but q9 model could use this too, since screen is larger and would look awesome.
Also, no need for a built in keyboard on the Q9, as the screen is large enough to just include an on screen keyboard just like all phones.

3. Same as xd-2 #4.

4. Same as xd-2 #5


Just to name a few.... but so far, this device is awesome. Anybody can feel free to repeat or add to this anytime! Will post this in the XD thread too.

Keep it up Game Pad Digital....
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: brushpicks11 on August 02, 2016, 06:30:59 pm
This questions probably already been answered but what makes the XD better than the Q9? The q9 is cheaper can get one on ebay for about 100$
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: dreamesper on August 02, 2016, 07:23:52 pm
I prefer the clamshell design of the XD... smaller, more compact, etc.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: sleyk on August 02, 2016, 08:45:32 pm
Seems like the XD screen has more pixel density and looks better. the Q9 looks good too but its at 600p vs 720p on the XD. Most people like the clam design and DS-like features like what dreamesper said.

Also, i think it depends on what you wanna play. The Q9 seems perfect for fighters due to the better d-pad it has, while the XD is more of an all-rounder for games? I actually plan to use both, but if you had to choose one, the XD is better due to the better screen.

For me, the Q9 holds the best value, I paid $113 for mines, its on the way. I also grabbed a XD on eBay for $152. 32gb version.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: maarten12100 on August 03, 2016, 12:07:44 am
2. Same as #3 of the xd-2. Faster processor, (pretty sure it would have one) Maybe allow some sort of windows envirnment dual boot mechanism with a switch/rocker button? Would be awesome to play low level pc games and maybe lesser demanding titles on it. I know GPD win is coming with windows 10 mobile version, but q9 model could use this too, since screen is larger and would look awesome.
Also, no need for a built in keyboard on the Q9, as the screen is large enough to just include an on screen keyboard just like all phones.
It can't run a x86 or x86-64 windows built since it will almost definitely have a ARM based processor. It could be made to run a ARM version of windows but x86 applications (almost all applications) will not work.

If you want x86 on this thing the only option would be to emulate that which would make it practically unusable. (I've ran trough Qemu a Windows 7 x86 installation on a powermac G5 (IBM PowerPC arch) a long time ago and it was extremely slow)

The RK3399 should be pretty decent although not really that high end. Chipsets like the kirin 955 and the QC snapdragon 820 would match it if not beat it. Unlike most phones featuring those chipsets however the XD2 will throttle less and pack a big battery.
The main letdown in the RK3399 is it's production node everything else is really very much like a high end SoC.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: sleyk on August 03, 2016, 12:48:15 am
Yeah, after I posted that I thought about it and remembered that Windows wont be able to be installed on an android platform due to the chip theyre using. Would be nice if we could get something like that running tho. I look forward to hearing more about the rk3399. I wonder. Is it a performance night and day like the rk3188 vs rk3288?
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: maarten12100 on August 03, 2016, 02:55:27 am
Yeah, after I posted that I thought about it and remembered that Windows wont be able to be installed on an android platform due to the chip theyre using. Would be nice if we could get something like that running tho. I look forward to hearing more about the rk3399. I wonder. Is it a performance night and day like the rk3188 vs rk3288?
Absolute night and day difference. We are talking double IPC on those big A72 cores versus the A17 cores in RK3288.
Also the clocks may be a higher than the 1.4GHz we have on the XD (1.8 on custom rom).

Whether it is enough for Dolphin and PCSX2 I do not know. I doubt it will do PS2.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: siegel17701 on August 13, 2016, 09:42:24 pm
Anyway we can get in contact with GPD to see if this is real.  I feel like every couple months i need a bumb or something. 

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: diablotinbouky on August 14, 2016, 11:30:56 am
Actually, I'm in Shenzhen  :P :P :P
I've visited Gpd office last week...
About Gpd Xd2, there is no news! Nothing sure...
All energy is for the Win....
I think we must waiting 2017 to have first news...
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on August 14, 2016, 11:34:27 am
Actually, I'm in Shenzhen  :P :P :P
I've visited Gpd office last week...
About Gpd Xd2, there is no news! Nothing sure...
All energy is for the Win....
I think we must waiting 2017 to have first news...

Thanks,. Unfortunately they seem to be focused on the win.
If you meet yu cheng samty say hi from my part.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on August 14, 2016, 11:42:38 am
Well, every time GPD have mentioned the XD2 in the past, it was always mentioned as coming next year.  So there's that.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: diablotinbouky on August 14, 2016, 12:00:48 pm
I meet the Boss and sales director...
Not easy, th? boss speak only Chinese, Sales directory a little English and my speaking English is bad  :P :P :P
I show Samty Wechat....he confirm that he works for him but not see him...

He speak about Snail...h? said that a part of Snail is closed...probably old Ireadygo....So, i suggered to look in the phone gaming direction, like Xperia Play...There is nobody in this market....

We have explications about relations between Gpd and Jxd...And why it stop.

I take some pictures about the Win...you can s?e on Open-consoles ( Belchine topic )

Ced
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on August 14, 2016, 12:09:59 pm

We have explications about relations between Gpd and Jxd...And why it stop.

I take some pictures about the Win...you can s?e on Open-consoles ( Belchine topic )

Ced
Thanks. I will look into that. I Hope they don't stop develpment for current q9 and xd, because it seems Android m update is in standby...
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: diablotinbouky on August 14, 2016, 01:31:59 pm
No, it was about historic relation...This is not r?cent 😂😂😂 Reason is that JXD doesn't pay...
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on August 14, 2016, 01:36:03 pm
No, it was about historic relation...This is not r?cent 😂😂😂 Reason is that JXD doesn't pay...

So the legal issue between GPD and JXD was over payment?

By the way, does GPD have a manufacturing plant, and did you get any photos of it?
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on August 14, 2016, 02:18:07 pm
No, it was about historic relation...This is not r?cent 😂😂😂 Reason is that JXD doesn't pay...

That's what i heard. Undertandable gpd got apart from them.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: diablotinbouky on August 14, 2016, 03:37:53 pm
I only visit Gpd office... It is very small...No interest for pictures...Only foto's of th? Win  ;D ;D ;D
S?paration between Jxd and Gpd is really a good point...because Jxd isn't really a serious company...
Got many problem with Jxd...
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on August 14, 2016, 04:56:54 pm
I spoke with samty today (GPD DEV). They want to start X.D 2 project next month to get device ready for Q1 of 2017. Will be RK3399 and android 6.0.

Also, Rockchip has stopped development of Android M for RK3288 due to unstabilties, that's why there is no android M firmware for XD or q9. And that's it, they are very focused on the win at the moment.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: siegel17701 on August 14, 2016, 05:03:44 pm
You da man Skelton!

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on August 14, 2016, 11:49:47 pm
@skelton

I wonder if they still plan to crowdfund the XD2. That was GPDs plan at the beginning of the year.  Not only on JD but western sites also (Indiegogo I'd imagine)

Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: siegel17701 on August 14, 2016, 11:56:19 pm
@skelton

I wonder if they still plan to crowdfund the XD2. That was GPDs plan at the beginning of the year.  Not only on JD but western sites also (Indiegogo I'd imagine)
Whatever they do i got my monies ready

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: sircrisp on August 15, 2016, 02:03:23 am
I will only buy it if it has phone and 4g connectivity in the US. It's a very tempting device but the GPD Win will solve most my gaming needs and so the only way I could justify it is as a phone replacement.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on August 15, 2016, 09:55:16 am
@skelton

I wonder if they still plan to crowdfund the XD2. That was GPDs plan at the beginning of the year.  Not only on JD but western sites also (Indiegogo I'd imagine)

No idea, maybe they do a China crowfounding, but device will be available in most shops no matter they do campaign or not, like It happens with the win.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: maarten12100 on August 15, 2016, 10:03:50 am
I will only buy it if it has phone and 4g connectivity in the US. It's a very tempting device but the GPD Win will solve most my gaming needs and so the only way I could justify it is as a phone replacement.
I would like that but I doubt it. Perhaps in a premium unit they can include a LTE module or replace the chipset with something that has LTE. (those SoCs are usually as expensive as an LTE modem though)
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on August 15, 2016, 10:26:18 am
I don't think RK3399 support LTE, but not sure. Perhaps they had to use a MTK chipset for that, but they are rockchip partners, so I suppose that's why they continue using RK.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: siegel17701 on August 15, 2016, 12:28:09 pm
Did anyone get the 128gb XD? The XD 2 would be great if it had that much memory.

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: maarten12100 on August 15, 2016, 04:50:58 pm
I don't think RK3399 support LTE, but not sure. Perhaps they had to use a MTK chipset for that, but they are rockchip partners, so I suppose that's why they continue using RK.
It's primarily aimed at setup boxes so it's very unlikely. Actually I doubt RockChip has the needed IP portfolio to create a on die LTE unit.

"In addition to application in tablets, VR, TV-BOX, laptops, in-vehicle navigations, and communications, the RK3399, with its enriched scalability, can be applied to all types of terminals covering industrial and consumer applications, including smart appliances, advertising devices/the all-in-one machines, POS systems, vehicle control terminals, thin-clients, VOIP video conferencing, security/monitoring/policing, IoT, as well as other fields. As the new flagship product of 2016, Rockchip RK3399's strong compatibility and scalability is its strongest core competency.

    Rockchip Flagship Solution RK3399 Release! --- High Performance, High Scalability, and Versatility
"
IoT and tablets give a slight hope but they don't list it so almost definitely nope.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on August 15, 2016, 05:21:48 pm
I don't think RK3399 support LTE, but not sure. Perhaps they had to use a MTK chipset for that, but they are rockchip partners, so I suppose that's why they continue using RK.
It's primarily aimed at setup boxes so it's very unlikely. Actually I doubt RockChip has the needed IP portfolio to create a on die LTE unit.

"In addition to application in tablets, VR, TV-BOX, laptops, in-vehicle navigations, and communications, the RK3399, with its enriched scalability, can be applied to all types of terminals covering industrial and consumer applications, including smart appliances, advertising devices/the all-in-one machines, POS systems, vehicle control terminals, thin-clients, VOIP video conferencing, security/monitoring/policing, IoT, as well as other fields. As the new flagship product of 2016, Rockchip RK3399's strong compatibility and scalability is its strongest core competency.

    Rockchip Flagship Solution RK3399 Release! --- High Performance, High Scalability, and Versatility
"
IoT and tablets give a slight hope but they don't list it so almost definitely nope.

It makes sense, RK design tablets and tvboxes, and no phones, so.... Unless another company make an android device with some MRK chip or something, nothing to do if you want LTE.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: BahamutxD on August 19, 2016, 01:33:26 am
My personal wishlist and must have if I want to purchase the XD2

-More comfortable L2/R2, I know its hard to fit them, maybe like MatriMax iPlay 7 did?

-Wifi 5Ghz, using Moonlight streaming (Nvidia), PS Now possibly coming to PC... this needs to happen.

These are just things that I would consider as nice to have.

-Overall a better build quality, but this is not that important as XD is quite well, but theres room to improve.
-Better screen (not necessarily bigger)
-Battery life ( who doesn't :P)
-Bigger memory without the exagerated price increase.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: siegel17701 on August 19, 2016, 01:56:50 am
I just want a release date


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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: shinkamui on August 21, 2016, 04:02:51 am
If this thing is an rk3399 I'm gonna pass and just focus on android on the win.  Performance from the rks have been much poorer than I'm accustom to.  I've lived with the lag and stutter of the xd for the size with real joysticks, but I was hoping the cherry trail version of the same form factor would set me free. Was looking forward to getting both, but looks like the win won.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on August 21, 2016, 04:15:18 am
If this thing is an rk3399 I'm gonna pass and just focus on android on the win.  Performance from the rks have been much poorer than I'm accustom to.  I've lived with the lag and stutter of the xd for the size with real joysticks, but I was hoping the cherry trail version of the same form factor would set me free. Was looking forward to getting both, but looks like the win won.

I wouldn't be so quick to write it off, it's a fairly decent SOC. The RK3399 is a hexa-core processor. It has two ARM Cortex-A72 CPU cores and four ARM Cortex-A53 cores. It also has Mali-T864 graphics, supports dual-channel memory and Gigabit Ethernet connections. It features ARMv8, 64-bit architecture. It is also 4k capable
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on August 21, 2016, 09:50:40 am
If this thing is an rk3399 I'm gonna pass and just focus on android on the win.  Performance from the rks have been much poorer than I'm accustom to.  I've lived with the lag and stutter of the xd for the size with real joysticks, but I was hoping the cherry trail version of the same form factor would set me free. Was looking forward to getting both, but looks like the win won.

Lag and stutter in the xd? I don't have any lag or stutter.... It performs quite well, and exce?t uoyabause and some tegra games, it emulates pretty similar to my shield tablet. The rk3288 is a ver decent soc considering it's price. Even my shield tv struggles with some.ppsspp games.

The rk3399 won't be a high end. Because i suppose the purpose is tp make an affordable device. Those wanting a more powerful device will go for the win. But the win won:t run native Android as far as i heard.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: MOFO on August 21, 2016, 02:09:36 pm
What can we expect for a performance gain with the rk3399?
I know it's CPU faster but on the GPU side is the Mali T-864 a good upgrade over the old SOC? How much GPU performance can we get over the original XD?
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on August 21, 2016, 02:23:32 pm
It should perform a bit better, but difficult to know yet, because it's not available yet the rk3399. Current mali760 have very good perfomance at 720p, so even if not a bigger upgrade, should be enough for the soc.
Rk3399 will be quit? cheap, so don't expect ultra perfomance, but a good perfomance/cost ratio.

According to arm webpage:
https://www.arm.com/products/multimedia/mali-gpu/high-performance/mali-t860-t880.php

Anyhow, xd.2 is something that is not even staryed yet by gpd. They told me the would begin to work on it after they finish with thw win, so it can take months until it:s available

Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: dreamesper on August 21, 2016, 02:41:42 pm
ya again, my thoughts are that the xd2 won't be AVAILABLE FOR PURCHASE until late 2017-early 2018.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on August 21, 2016, 03:09:02 pm
ya again, my thoughts are that the xd2 won't be AVAILABLE FOR PURCHASE until late 2017-early 2018.

Gpd told.me that wanted to be ready for beginning of 2017, but i think it will be available later, probably just before summer. As soon as i get more.lnfo i will tell, because probably i will make a firmware contribution (if my health allow me).
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: siegel17701 on August 21, 2016, 08:31:47 pm

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(if my health allow me).
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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: suave6565 on August 28, 2016, 03:30:49 am
ya again, my thoughts are that the xd2 won't be AVAILABLE FOR PURCHASE until late 2017-early 2018.

Gpd told.me that wanted to be ready for beginning of 2017, but i think it will be available later, probably just before summer. As soon as i get more.lnfo i will tell, because probably i will make a firmware contribution (if my health allow me).

I just came across this post about the GPD XD 2... First, I would like to say and hope you get better and second, iif you dont mind me asking, whats going on with your health??

im really liking what this company has been doing and they seem like the are not slowing down...I really like the GPD XD and i'm definitely going for the GPD Win... I wish JXD was like this but im sold on what they have to offer...

 
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: SONY on August 28, 2016, 03:39:21 am
I hope the final specs are 2017 worthy.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on August 28, 2016, 09:13:01 am
ya again, my thoughts are that the xd2 won't be AVAILABLE FOR PURCHASE until late 2017-early 2018.

Gpd told.me that wanted to be ready for beginning of 2017, but i think it will be available later, probably just before summer. As soon as i get more.lnfo i will tell, because probably i will make a firmware contribution (if my health allow me).

I just came across this post about the GPD XD 2... First, I would like to say and hope you get better and second, iif you dont mind me asking, whats going on with your health??

im really liking what this company has been doing and they seem like the are not slowing down...I really like the GPD XD and i'm definitely going for the GPD Win... I wish JXD was like this but im sold on what they have to offer...

Don't know how it's called my disease in english, but basically i have terrible headaches and pain in my ears almost everyday. I need surgery and some time to recover.

SONY, specs will be rk3399. Nothing high end because i suppose they wany to keep price low.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: SONY on August 28, 2016, 11:02:26 am
Ah ok, it makes sense I guess.
Price wise, keeping it competitive with other similar products as well.
Anyway, I know a few people who are also experiencing the same sort of health issues & symptoms, etc, so please get well soon ok.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: sirp0p0 on August 28, 2016, 07:35:57 pm
ya again, my thoughts are that the xd2 won't be AVAILABLE FOR PURCHASE until late 2017-early 2018.

Gpd told.me that wanted to be ready for beginning of 2017, but i think it will be available later, probably just before summer. As soon as i get more.lnfo i will tell, because probably i will make a firmware contribution (if my health allow me).

I just came across this post about the GPD XD 2... First, I would like to say and hope you get better and second, iif you dont mind me asking, whats going on with your health??

im really liking what this company has been doing and they seem like the are not slowing down...I really like the GPD XD and i'm definitely going for the GPD Win... I wish JXD was like this but im sold on what they have to offer...

Don't know how it's called my disease in english, but basically i have terrible headaches and pain in my ears almost everyday. I need surgery and some time to recover.

SONY, specs will be rk3399. Nothing high end because i suppose they wany to keep price low.
If its very strong headaches that make it so you can't really do anything, they're usually called migraines, though that's not specifically a disease but can be caused by lots of things. The best description I know is when you get a brain freeze by drinking lots of something very cold and get a headache, only a lot worse.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: siegel17701 on September 11, 2016, 09:10:54 pm
Just Re-Bought a GPD XD,  now time to wait for the 128gb GPD XD 2!

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: omnitrix152 on September 12, 2016, 11:51:21 pm
How much RAM is the XD2 going to have? and is it really releasing early 2017? I hope so because I would rather upgrade to that instead of the XD from my s5800 as iv been wanting to for a while.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: dreamesper on September 13, 2016, 12:11:57 am
mid-late 2017 i would imagine... they are just wrapping up work on the WIN so it will take some time.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: siegel17701 on September 13, 2016, 01:25:39 am
I couldn't  wait.  The way they have brrn going is to release a 16gb and 32gb first.  It will probably have 2gb ram.  Still the standard. 

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: SONY on September 13, 2016, 09:19:22 am
Hope it ends up with 6GB of RAM.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on September 13, 2016, 09:41:55 am
Hope it ends up with 6GB of RAM.
6 gb ram is unnecesary in Android. It would only nake device expensive. The shield tv has 3 and runs everything.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: konpia on September 13, 2016, 01:13:31 pm
And it would be expensive to have such highly spec device and will turn away lots of potential buyers.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: raiden on September 26, 2016, 05:22:11 am
SuperFenix's mock up of for an alternative gpd win design could be used as design inspiration for the XD 2. Obviously some buttons featured on this mock up aren't needed on android. I don't think there needs to be dedicated wifi or bluetooth buttons since they are easily accessible via the drop down menus.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-b7_MN1abFfI/VnkRgQ7csMI/AAAAAAAAWqg/q1_ooivKNJc/s800-Ic42/GPD-XD%252520Design_4.1.jpg)


The mock up shows six buttons (back, cube, forward, back, windows start menu, etc). The equivalents on the GPD XD are the four buttons (start, select, back, and home). These four buttons could be moved to up to just below the row of buttons for volume, power, gamepad, etc. This would allow the six joystick buttons (a,b,c,x,y,z) to be slightly re-positioned and increased in size as well as a full sized dpad.

The mock up features a keyboard, which the XD 2 doesn't need. However, the XD2 that could feature a port on the bottom of the device which could allow optional plugin play addons. Like how many old game consoles had ports for optional modems, graphics extenders, cd drives, etc. Or how the raspberry pi has "hats" for its boards.

Here are two possible add ons. 1) A slide out keyboard like the one featured in the mock up.

2) Something like cyber gadget's 3ds xl grip which makes extended play sessions more comfortable. If GPD designed the grip case and it plugged into the XD2, maybe it could have working full sized trigger buttons and disable the small trigger buttons on the XD itself once plugged in.
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51YDTd3kRGL._SL1000_.jpg)

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51uF3Si9wcL._SX342_.jpg)
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on September 26, 2016, 10:20:51 am
I don't see the need for a keyboard in an android device, except some amiga emus. But if that implies a bigger and heavier device I prefer current XD design, just with a bit better processor and that's enough for my needs.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: raiden on September 26, 2016, 12:21:02 pm
I don't see the need for a keyboard in an android device, except some amiga emus. But if that implies a bigger and heavier device I prefer current XD design, just with a bit better processor and that's enough for my needs.

I agree. But what if there were a port on bottom side of the gpd xd 2 that allowed accessories to be plugged into it? Accessories could use bluetooth as well. A lot of old consoles featured planned expansion accessories.

n64 expanded hardware
(http://www.videogameconsolelibrary.com/images/1990s/96_N64/64DD-Info-01_small.gif)

It could be slider keyboard case that the XD 2 is stuck into. Something like this smartphone case.
(http://ww.dealwinwin.com/wwwimages/product/I2/2013-05-08-23541012470.jpg)

Also, there's rumors about Android and Chrome OS being merged and the announcement could come on October 4th. If that were true (a BIG if) then maybe some people would want a keyboard? I really enjoy using my XD as an android tablet and watching youtube and using non games on it.

Honestly, I'm more interested in a grip case that features functional buttons shoulder buttons and triggers. I want to see GPD XD 2 itself have six face buttons (a, b, c, x, y, z) and (L3, R3), have shoulder buttons (L1, L2, R1, R2). The accessory grip case would have between 6~8 buttons (full sized L1, L2, R1, R2 that when plugged in would disable the GPD XD 2's shoulder buttons) and then 2~4 buttons on the underside of the controller. That would allow for so much player configuration.

Controller with underside buttons.
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/G/01/aplusautomation/vendorimages/f7d0546d-a2d5-4d93-9c8c-0daeb5586d6b.png._CB287134154_.png)

The grip case would be essentially what you see in the picture. The front of the controller would be empty allowing for the XD 2 to be placed inside.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: siegel17701 on October 04, 2016, 01:00:12 am
Update Check!

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Pulori on October 04, 2016, 10:27:11 pm
Why they don't use clickable joysticks? I prefer the current design of GPD XD, but with larger L2/R2. I prefer the Nintendo's D-pad (Sony's are nice too), I think it's more comfortable than the Sega's or Xbox 360's. I will use GPD XD principally to play, so I don't see any necessity for a built in keyboard, I can buy a usb/otg or bluetooth keyboard.
A grip can be nice for playing for lot of time. I prefer triggers than buttons, but I can see this usable only for streaming PC and Console games. Maybe the grip can preclude the portability.
A better CPU/GPU will be perfect. I wish I can run PPSSPP (maybe Dolphin) with a better performance on GPD XD.
Also, vibration module can be a luxury, something like this:
(http://www.channypicture.com/pic/UploadFile/P0/SKU222045/C013739E9B9BC7CECA81D29D9CCECDD29B46CE5336D2C9531366D2629D5656CCC6C766CD0CC69ACDCAF523.jpg)
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Oshin on October 05, 2016, 11:09:13 am
Why they don't use clickable joysticks? I prefer the current design of GPD XD, but with larger L2/R2. I prefer the Nintendo's D-pad (Sony's are nice too), I think it's more comfortable than the Sega's or Xbox 360's. I will use GPD XD principally to play, so I don't see any necessity for a built in keyboard, I can buy a usb/otg or bluetooth keyboard.
A grip can be nice for playing for lot of time. I prefer triggers than buttons, but I can see this usable only for streaming PC and Console games. Maybe the grip can preclude the portability.
A better CPU/GPU will be perfect. I wish I can run PPSSPP (maybe Dolphin) with a better performance on GPD XD.
Also, vibration module can be a luxury, something like this:
(http://www.channypicture.com/pic/UploadFile/P0/SKU222045/C013739E9B9BC7CECA81D29D9CCECDD29B46CE5336D2C9531366D2629D5656CCC6C766CD0CC69ACDCAF523.jpg)

I think adding clickable joysticks needs a lot of extra headroom in the device, making it very thick. Its probably worth the trade off. The XD uses Vita Sticks, I think this is the other issue, that is aren't many good mini joysticks on the market so its better just live a good brand without the click.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: siegel17701 on November 05, 2016, 09:37:33 pm
Well the Win has been released, now on to the XD.

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: SONY on November 05, 2016, 10:45:56 pm
It's gonna be awesome!!
I hope they switch (no pun intended) soc to X2.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: eragon2890 on November 05, 2016, 11:58:10 pm
It's gonna be awesome!!
I hope they switch (no pun intended) soc to X2.

X2?
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: SONY on November 06, 2016, 03:14:17 am
nVIDIA, I think?
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on November 06, 2016, 09:37:20 am
I douby Nvidia sells chip to anyone else anymore becausenof Nintendo switch.
The xd2 will be rk3399 for sure.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: eragon2890 on November 06, 2016, 10:34:29 am
I douby Nvidia sells chip to anyone else anymore becausenof Nintendo switch.
The xd2 will be rk3399 for sure.

the tegra 2 is also meant for tablets, cars, entertainment systems, and a million other applications, I am pretty sure you will still be able to buy them. Why not? ARM and pico also continued supplying others when nintendo used their cpu respectively gpu in the 3ds...
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on November 06, 2016, 10:49:32 am
If the own nvidia is not using it x1 or x2 (which doesn't even exist) to make another shield tablet/portable I doubt they will sell it to GPD. Also, nvidia only sell in huge quantities at a high price. Nintendo and Nvidia probably signed a NDA to make their custom chip only for nintendo Switch.
Apart from that, GPD told me they would go with RK3399, but it's not stable yet to begin with the development and is not ready for mass production.
 
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on November 06, 2016, 10:50:22 am
Rockchip need to come up with cooler names for their SOCs .   

Look at Nvidia with the Tegra X1

I think Rockchip should rename the RK3399  to "The Rock 9000"
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on November 06, 2016, 10:52:28 am
If the own nvidia is not using it x1 or x2 (which doesn't even exist) to make another shield tablet/portable I doubt they will sell it to GPD. Also, nvidia only sell in huge quantities at a high price. Nintendo and Nvidia probably signed a NDA to make their custom chip only for nintendo Switch.
Apart from that, GPD told me they would go with RK3399, but it's not stable yet to begin with the development and is not ready for mass production.

Hang on, didn't Nvidia stop selling the Tegra K1 to JXD for the S192, and no one really knew why.   Possible that was because it was going into a JXDs gaming tablet and Nvidia signed up with Nintendo for the NX gaming tablet ie Nvidia  didn't want to risk that or were even forced to not provide to any other gaming companies with even remotely competing products
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on November 06, 2016, 11:02:47 am
Rockchip need to come up with cooler names for their SOCs .   

Look at Nvidia with the Tegra X1

I think Rockchip should rename the RK3399  to "The Rock 9000"
I agree, Rockchip is not precisely good naming its chips.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: MOFO on November 06, 2016, 03:24:52 pm
All I want is a working product that you don't have to jump through hoops to get working, the XD was great in this regard but GPD really screwed up with the WIN.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on November 06, 2016, 04:10:45 pm
All I want is a working product that you don't have to jump through hoops to get working, the XD was great in this regard but GPD really screwed up with the WIN.
Many people have a stable unit, at least people from my country. Probably due to Rush manufacturing some people got a detective unit. Though i doubt buying a win precisely because it seems a lottery ticket.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: eragon2890 on November 06, 2016, 04:43:07 pm
All I want is a working product that you don't have to jump through hoops to get working, the XD was great in this regard but GPD really screwed up with the WIN.

herpy-derpy, with the XD there were also defective units. If mine doesn't work.I will have it replaced with one that does.

Look, this is a handheld whcih very playably plays skyrim, fallout new vegas, overwatch, bioshock infinity, almost or full wii emulation, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. How cool is that? It's freaking revolutionary!!!

And yes a lot of units seem to work, hopefully mine too, otherwise I will have it replaced by the webshop, I am a bit nervous about getting mine but less then 3 days ago...

But you know a surface 3 with 4 gb of ram (same hardware) costs 600 euros or more enw. This costs 350. And this is a million times more complicated to design and make, not just a simple tablet but a freaking handheld. Which literally noone ever on the planet had to engineer before in this way.

If this was say a microsoft product, it would cost AT LEAST 700-800 euros.

There is a reason for this ridiculously low price: saving on quality control. It was that way wit the Q9, the Xd, and with the WIN and will always be that way.

Buy one, love it. If not work have it replaced by your reseller.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: siegel17701 on November 06, 2016, 11:11:36 pm
I've replaced 2 gpd q9s because they were buggy as heck. 

I'm looking for the flip screen.  That and 128gb storage.  I can keep all my games and emulators on one device. 

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: dominique1976 on November 11, 2016, 08:53:07 am
hi,
I just received the GPD WIN.
I propose to go see my video for a complete test: https://youtu.be/GxcxvXgpaTc

So for the moment needless to tell you that this GPD WIN leaves me a bitter taste !!!!!!!
When I see some videos or a PS2 emulator runs correctly, while almost all my 3D games crash, I am very disappointed.

I can not accommodate myself to the price where I bought the machine, they must find a solution !!!
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: SONY on November 11, 2016, 11:43:44 am
hi,
I just received the GPD WIN.
I propose to go see my video for a complete restoration: https://youtu.be/GxcxvXgpaTc

So for the moment needless to tell you that this GPD WIN leaves me a bitter taste !!!!!!!
When I see some videos or a PS2 emulator runs correctly, while almost all my 3D games crash, I am very disappointed.

I can not accommodate myself to the price where I bought the machine, they must find a solution !!!


You posted in the wrong forum?
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Smoker1 on November 12, 2016, 09:46:01 am
XD2 would be a better Variant of the XD. Just have to make sure to have 64GB or 128GB Storage, Full USB a great idea for additional Storage, and kind of like the Flip Screen. But they need to go through a different Supplier for the Directional Pads and the Joysticks. Also make it so the Device can be Opened up to easily replace Parts if needed and a Battery that can be Replaced. Mine on my XD is acting up. Turned it on and the Battery was at around 80% and 5 Minutes later I see it is around 38% and I was not doing anything.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: knightron on November 13, 2016, 12:29:12 am
What's wrong with the joysticks? I think they're great. Not only are they accurate, but they're the PS Vita's, so they're easily obtainable if they break somehow and need replacing.
The D-pad does need to be refined though. The screws on the board need to be placed better too. Because there's no screw on the left side of the D-pad on the board, my left side of the d-pad is not as sensitive as the right side which is a pain in the ass.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on December 05, 2016, 09:57:23 pm
The SOC that is very likely to end up in the XD2 ie the Rockchip 3399 Hexacore, is being offered in a dev board on Koickstarter.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1771382379/firefly-rk3399-six-core-64-bit-high-performance-pl/description
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: irwannasit on December 08, 2016, 03:40:04 am
The SOC that is very likely to end up in the XD2 ie the Rockchip 3399 Hexacore, is being offered in a dev board on Koickstarter.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1771382379/firefly-rk3399-six-core-64-bit-high-performance-pl/description
Wow. It seems it's lte capabled. That's a plus right there. Seriously, GPD should really consider the radio option, 2.4/5ghz and bluetooth 4.2 at least.

That can really boost mobile gaming.

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: siegel17701 on December 21, 2016, 11:32:02 pm
Any news?

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: DiegoLibe on January 05, 2017, 07:59:26 pm
The only thing I wish from a XD2 is a screenshot button ;-;
The layout of the buttons could be same, but in the place of the "Recent apps" button the screenshot button.
Then move "Back", "Home", "Recents" to the center, under the actual buttons we have, side by side and the select and start on left and right...

Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: sirp0p0 on January 06, 2017, 01:17:59 am
The only thing I wish from a XD2 is a screenshot button ;-;
The layout of the buttons could be same, but in the place of the "Recent apps" button the screenshot button.
Then move "Back", "Home", "Recents" to the center, under the actual buttons we have, side by side and the select and start on left and right...

If you install Xposed Framework + GravityBox KK you can remap the buttons. I changed my recents button to act as the menu button instead but hold for recents, and you could set it to screenshot as well.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: XC-3730C on January 11, 2017, 04:54:21 am
I hope the GPD XD2 has a better D-pad, and can run Hyperspin. Then I wouldn't need the GPD Win.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on January 11, 2017, 10:10:25 am
Hyperspin for android is only for tegra devices or Nvidia ones, so unless gpd use tegra in xd2 (which I doubt) I don't think so. There are other nice frontends though. I use retroarch as a frontend and works fine on android.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: XC-3730C on January 11, 2017, 02:46:42 pm
I just wish someone would make Attract Mode Android compatible. I really like video previews and artwork.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: siegel17701 on January 21, 2017, 01:40:44 am
This isn't happening is it?  😢

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: MOFO on February 12, 2017, 05:19:37 pm
This isn't happening is it?  😢


The lack of news is not good, especially after showing renderings a long time ago.
The XD is getting a bit long in the tooth but I hope GPD is not putting all there focus on the Pocket and ignoring the XD 2.
Personally I'd rather see a XD 2 over the Pocket any day.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on February 12, 2017, 08:06:09 pm
Supposedly they are waiting for RK3399 to be in mass production, so I suppose they will give more info whrn RK3399 is available for tablets (actually is only available slightly in tvbox boards). Though I personally having a GPDWIN the XD 2 is not too interesting for me.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: salamandar on February 12, 2017, 11:10:36 pm
also the Gpx xd is still one of the best android handheld right now , and most of people won't upgrade to Gpd xd2 only because of 3gb of ram or bluetooth support , since they bought it to play old school games and emulators ... , so you only need gpd xd ,

i think they should wait more before making the XD2. but i'm sure it will happen soon. for the gpd win, i don't think it's for everyone, and soon Gpd will focus in making a new android handheld.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: alyinsanfran on February 13, 2017, 12:03:27 am
I'll only buy a new model if it's substantially faster than the XD - quick enough to emulate newer consoles e.g. XBox, PS2, faster PSP emulation etc.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: tiagao_extremo on February 13, 2017, 12:28:04 am
It's great to see that GPD isn't flooding the market with many devices released in such a short time like JXD used to. Although the main reason for they still didn't released the XD successor was mostly because of the GPD WIN it's good to see that even after almost two years the XD it's still one of the best options available for retro gaming.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: konpia on February 13, 2017, 06:28:15 am
A better dpad and shoulder buttons and a bigger screen would be nice.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: siegel17701 on February 16, 2017, 07:50:09 pm
I had the XD.  Bought and sold it twice.  It was too small for me.  Plus i like the idea of flip screen for games that don't need or use buttons.  Xd2 seems like the best of both worlds.

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: SilentRunner on February 17, 2017, 08:13:47 am
I have only recently just discovered the GPD XD so alittle late to the party lol,  I then saw this stuff about the XD 2 and thought I should wait before buying, but there seems to be very little information about when it is expected to come out.

I have read a some mixed things the latest they are waiting for some chipsets to be released, can anyone clear this up for me or is there no official word at the moment?

Thanks
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: BahamutxD on February 20, 2017, 11:12:18 pm
I have only recently just discovered the GPD XD so alittle late to the party lol,  I then saw this stuff about the XD 2 and thought I should wait before buying, but there seems to be very little information about when it is expected to come out.

I have read a some mixed things the latest they are waiting for some chipsets to be released, can anyone clear this up for me or is there no official word at the moment?

Thanks

Get an XD if you want pre PSP/PSX/N64 emulation + android games or even streaming games (moonlight)

XD2 might never happen or may take a good while, or may just be a little better than the XD not worth the waiting. Even if it has the power to emulate newer consoles (ps2/dreamcast..) android would need an emulator for it and those things take time.

GPD Win may interest you, but is a bit pricey too... it all depends on what you want/need

Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on February 24, 2017, 10:04:04 am
Some.news from gpd. Rockchip is not making at the moment rk3399 for tablets, just for tvbox, so unless they find another cheap and suitable SOC is in standby. I proposed them some snapdragon or mtk chips that are not ultraexpensive, but I don't know what they will decide. Another choice can be the Intel cherrytrail but for android. But let's ser what decide. They are plaanning a gpd win 2 so It seems xd2 is not a priority to them right now.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: SilentRunner on February 24, 2017, 10:10:09 am
Hey thanks for dropping some info Skelton, just picked up a GPD XD loving it. Really interested to see how PS2 & Gamecube emulation turns out on Android. Do you think most of these new units will stand much chance of running some of the new emulation well? I know it is early days I have seen Vulkan mentioned but don't have alot of knowledge on that sort of stuff.

I really hope they make another device that runs android, I have always been pretty impressed with how Android has developed. Windows 10 really doesn't seem suited to run on such a small devices although I may be wrong have never tryed it.

Thanks
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on February 24, 2017, 11:09:57 am
Ps2 imposible in Android at the moment. Gamecube only on shield TV, which is a beast in GPU.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: SilentRunner on February 24, 2017, 11:23:51 am
I see there is a PS2 emulator in development for Android, even if this comes along way are you saying the Hardware has a long way to go even on highend devices?
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on February 24, 2017, 11:46:03 am
Yep, that Play! emulator is a new ps2 made from 0. It's even slow on modern PCs, so in Android won't be playable until a long time mos probably. Even the GPDWIN which is more powerful struggles with PCSX2.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: tiagao_extremo on February 24, 2017, 06:19:02 pm
Some.news from gpd. Rockchip is not making at the moment rk3399 for tablets, just for tvbox, so unless they find another cheap and suitable SOC is in standby. I proposed them some snapdragon or mtk chips that are not ultraexpensive, but I don't know what they will decide. Another choice can be the Intel cherrytrail but for android. But let's ser what decide. They are plaanning a gpd win 2 so It seems xd2 is not a priority to them right now.

Hi Skelton, thanks for the information. I have a few questions for you:

1 - Considering that they would change for a snapdragon would the price be way higher than a rockchip soc?

2 - MTK aren't closed source or it's up to the company decides it?

3 - From a developer point of view how would be a change from a common android soc like Rockchip to an Intel like cherrytrail? Better performance or it won't be noticeable? Custom roms would still be available?
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on February 24, 2017, 06:37:04 pm
Some.news from gpd. Rockchip is not making at the moment rk3399 for tablets, just for tvbox, so unless they find another cheap and suitable SOC is in standby. I proposed them some snapdragon or mtk chips that are not ultraexpensive, but I don't know what they will decide. Another choice can be the Intel cherrytrail but for android. But let's ser what decide. They are plaanning a gpd win 2 so It seems xd2 is not a priority to them right now.

Hi Skelton, thanks for the information. I have a few questions for you:

1 - Considering that they would change for a snapdragon would the price be way higher than a rockchip soc?

2 - MTK aren't closed source or it's up to the company decides it?

3 - From a developer point of view how would be a change from a common android soc like Rockchip to an Intel like cherrytrail? Better performance or it won't be noticeable? Custom roms would still be available?

1 - Probably, the problem with snapdragon is that Qualcomm force companies to buy too many chips to make them affordable, MTK is a bit cheaper in this sense. That's why most chinese phone companies use MTK (except biggest ones like Xiaomi that use Snapdragon too)

2- That depends on the company. Most chinese SoC are very closed source, MTK specially, but if GPD would want to release kernel, they can do it (at least in a private way to a external developer)

3- Custom roms can be made no matter the chip used. I have seen custom roms for several android x86 tablets, so it can be done.  (I don't have experience making roms with intel tablets for Android, but it doesn't seem different than Rockchip for instance.

Anyhow, I have no idea what GPD will decide, I just suggested some other chips to them in case they cannot use RK3399. Maybe rockchip release tablet support for RK3399 in the future and they wait for it. But my guess is that they will focus on windows devices rather than Android ones (in fact they are already planning GPDWIN 2 with Apollo Lake probably).
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: siegel17701 on February 24, 2017, 10:09:45 pm
GPD is in the windows PC game now. Hopefully they go back to Android.

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: SilentRunner on February 27, 2017, 08:55:12 am
I haven't used the GPD Win but I think Android seems much more suitable for handheld gaming all round, the GPD Win does not attract me simply because it is running windows, I may think differently if I had one to try. But since getting a GPD XD Android just seems like a perfect fit. I suppose it depends what you what to achieve. Making a tiny windows computer does not make much sense to me really but obviously does to others as they sell.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: salamandar on February 27, 2017, 11:23:29 am
for someone like me , a big fun of windows and also android, i used windows for many years, it's great for pc gaming, but android on gpd xd is the best
i can't really expline it, but if you got the gpd xd and the win you will understand.

and i think the reason why lot of people want the Gpd Win , not because it's running windows and not for emulation ( ps2, gamecube ...), but because it's a tiny laptop with controllers that can play Pc games.

and again if it was only for emulation, most of us wouldn't be interested in the Win and stick with gpd xd

Gpd Win : Play Pc games on to Go...
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: XC-3730C on February 27, 2017, 05:13:02 pm
I agree that Android is the most logical solution for retro gaming on the go. There are thousands of devices that support it.

The GPD Win and Windows have the advantage of being able utilize to Attract Mode and Hyperspin, neither of which are available on Android (unless you have an Nvidia Shield/Tegra device - my main reason for getting a Shield K1 Tablet).

I for one love Hyperspin and Attract Mode because of the wheels, artwork, and preview videos, and nothing like it exists on Android. Most people seem content on just having screenshots, but the video previews are a big help for trying out games that I have never played or heard of.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: ker on February 27, 2017, 11:42:29 pm
Some.news from gpd. Rockchip is not making at the moment rk3399 for tablets, just for tvbox, so unless they find another cheap and suitable SOC is in standby. I proposed them some snapdragon or mtk chips that are not ultraexpensive, but I don't know what they will decide. Another choice can be the Intel cherrytrail but for android. But let's ser what decide. They are plaanning a gpd win 2 so It seems xd2 is not a priority to them right now.

GPD Win 2? 2017? 2018?

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on February 28, 2017, 09:33:32 am
Some.news from gpd. Rockchip is not making at the moment rk3399 for tablets, just for tvbox, so unless they find another cheap and suitable SOC is in standby. I proposed them some snapdragon or mtk chips that are not ultraexpensive, but I don't know what they will decide. Another choice can be the Intel cherrytrail but for android. But let's ser what decide. They are plaanning a gpd win 2 so It seems xd2 is not a priority to them right now.

GPD Win 2? 2017? 2018?

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2018 most probably.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on February 28, 2017, 11:02:50 am
Some.news from gpd. Rockchip is not making at the moment rk3399 for tablets, just for tvbox, so unless they find another cheap and suitable SOC is in standby. I proposed them some snapdragon or mtk chips that are not ultraexpensive, but I don't know what they will decide. Another choice can be the Intel cherrytrail but for android. But let's ser what decide. They are plaanning a gpd win 2 so It seems xd2 is not a priority to them right now.

I would suggest they go for this Mediatek Helio X30 beast:

https://liliputing.com/2017/02/mediatek-helio-x30-deca-core-chip-coming-mid-range-phones-q2-2017.html
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on February 28, 2017, 12:04:16 pm
It's one of the ones I suggested. But no idea if they Will take mtk or just wait to see if rk make a rk3399 board for tablet, since they are cheaper. Who knows, at the moment XD 2 is under standby and I have my doubts It will be released. I think they Will Focus on Windows devices rather android ones.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on February 28, 2017, 12:09:49 pm
at the moment XD 2 is under standby and I have my doubts It will be released. I think they Will Focus on Windows devices rather android ones.

I don't think so, there is too many people that want an XD 2 and GPD know it.   
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on February 28, 2017, 12:13:57 pm
at the moment XD 2 is under standby and I have my doubts It will be released. I think they Will Focus on Windows devices rather android ones.

I don't think so, there is too many people that want an XD 2 and GPD know it.

Well, it could be, but according to their main dev, at the moment is not on their planning, Maybe they reconsider if they can buy a cheap SoC, which is the main reason for an XD 2.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: salamandar on February 28, 2017, 01:40:16 pm
and if you think about it, it's more better if they take time before launching the Gpd xd2 and really work hard in making the best user experience of the handheld, and i'm not talking only about the hardware ( for me i think it's the easy part  because if they put their mind on it the will definitly deliver a good quality built ) but the most important thing is the software, they need to work more in the android os and even develope applications that will make the handheld great , ( the button mapping feature is a good exemple ) so we can make the best of the device .

the only thing i regret about Gpd xd , is to not taking time and contacting developers on Xda Forum to work and help skelton make other roms for this device, not only one but several custom roms to have a better compatibility with apps, games and others features that would been nice to have .
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on February 28, 2017, 01:49:42 pm


I think the software is OK. It runs a pretty much vanilla android. Not sure what other app they could be developing. Maybe a frontend or a new launcher? There are options in play store that fill the gap. In this sense is not different than my sheld tablet for instance. About custom roms, that's not GPD's fault. The kernel source is in my github so is free to use by everyone, so GPD did their part (something that most chinese companies don't), and everyone is free to make another custom roms, because kernel is available. But if there are not other devs interested that's not GPD's fault. These devices are very niche so it's difficult to have many firmwares like popular tablets or phones.
I personally don't need another firmware unless Rockchip release good userpsace mali libraries for android M, but at the current state, I prefer to use kitkat with good mali libs and good saturn emulation. LegacyROM is enough for my needs at least. But if someone miss some features, is free to make a custom rom with those features.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: PsyOps on February 28, 2017, 10:21:05 pm


I think the software is OK. It runs a pretty much vanilla android. Not sure what other app they could be developing. Maybe a frontend or a new launcher? There are options in play store that fill the gap. In this sense is not different than my sheld tablet for instance. About custom roms, that's not GPD's fault. The kernel source is in my github so is free to use by everyone, so GPD did their part (something that most chinese companies don't), and everyone is free to make another custom roms, because kernel is available. But if there are not other devs interested that's not GPD's fault. These devices are very niche so it's difficult to have many firmwares like popular tablets or phones.
I personally don't need another firmware unless Rockchip release good userpsace mali libraries for android M, but at the current state, I prefer to use kitkat with good mali libs and good saturn emulation. LegacyROM is enough for my needs at least. But if someone miss some features, is free to make a custom rom with those features.

I agree with all of that and should probably thank you once again skelton. One of the problems with very popular devices is the mass release of custom roms. Many devs release many versions of the same thing with small tweaks or roms that best suit their own needs, and that may not be what others are looking for. I am grateful for your approach in making a custom rom, in that you made it a barebones type rom. Lightweight ,streamlined , optimized to make everything in the backend work the way it should with the flexibility for the user to change/tweak it to their own needs. So now you take that debloated rom and do what you want with it and install anything you want on it. Even though I am not new to the root/rom community it sometimes gets frustrating trying to find that perfect rom. Bricking/unbricking devices, and finally finding one I am comfortable with just to find out there is a bug or something later that makes me want to keep looking.

Boards like this are the way to go. Get the word out and see if we can snag some more devs in here to maybe work on the app side of things and less on roms ( GameRom browser/launcher with video support) and maybe someone who can make a TWRP build specifically for gpdxd 8).

my 2 cents ( even though i am an all around nub )

I should also mention that had I known about the gpdxd earlier i would have saved money by not buying the commercial stuff like nds and psps or even other tablets. If you are a fan and have the money go for it. But for my kids I think giving them this device would be enough. Its bad enough my 16yo is eyeing my gpd. (mine!, play your ds!)
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: salamandar on March 07, 2017, 12:30:17 pm
In my opinion, the better they wait and plan for the next gpd XD2, the good it will be, specially with all the Nintendo hype and people are not right now putting their focus on android games and handheld

because i really want to see Gpd deliver a great, good quality product, and maybe have extra features, for us players .

and everyone know that they can easily update hardware ( the cpu ship and exeption ) but for the ram, internal space, bluethoot support, that not a hard thing to add to the gpd xd 2 but a good quality build would be nice , i'm not saying the XD is bad, but if they read people feedbacks , you can see that most of us didn't like the moshy R and L button ..etc
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: salamandar on March 07, 2017, 12:46:55 pm
And btw, did you guys see the Nintendo Switch painful launch ?

people are experiencing problems from day one, and they are not complaining only about the software instabilty, but there are some really important design flaw,

You can see lot of painfull problems with the Switch in this video :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cb-srOfRqNc

This is embarrassing and unacceptable, i mean this is shows that even a big name like Nintendo have this issues. (Gpd Xd customers experience this kind of problems at the launch of the handheld but not this bad like the Switch, and again we can't even compare Nintendo, a company that have more time and experience, with GPD )

for me, this is a general rule : never buy a console on launch, specially if you got others good alternative  :)
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: siegel17701 on March 07, 2017, 10:44:26 pm
What do you guys think the Q9 layout for a new GPD device. I love the Q9, just wish it had better guts 😋

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on March 07, 2017, 10:50:56 pm
I personally prefer the XD layout. Never was a fan of 7 inch devices. Anyhow, XD 2 IS in standby so i don't think GPD release something with Android soon.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: siegel17701 on March 08, 2017, 11:00:45 am
I guess I got old guy eyes.

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: sirp0p0 on March 09, 2017, 01:33:59 am
I guess I got old guy eyes.

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They're both nice. XD has a nicer screen since it is higher res and better pixel density, but it is nice playing on the Q9 as well. Just not as portable as the XD. I wish I had a Q9 PSV though since the dpad and screen are supposed to be better than the original.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Rcoltrane on March 09, 2017, 11:44:58 am
I absolutely love the design of the XD and would love to have a XD2 with a more powerful hardware and an updated Android OS. But as other members said, it is on hold so I won't count on that.

One thing I really like and that I think would be good for a XD2 project is the addition of a 2nd screen, just like the NDS. There are a lot of useful things that you could do by having a second screen, but I guess it's too expensive to manufacture. For example, it could have a main screen at the top without the touch function, and a smaller touch screen would be located in between the controls at the base of the device. This way, your main screen would be free of fingerprints and possible damages caused by heavy touching or scratches. I know that there are protective films with fingerprint-free capabilities, but it's not that good.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on March 09, 2017, 01:11:36 pm
The problem with dual screen is their implementation under android. Also, apps doesn't take advantage of that unless they are recoded. Anyhow, I personally consider gpdwin as the xd2. Not android, but more emulators and more optimized, and lot of steam games... Unless gpd release something impressive with xd2, gpdwin is the best handheld i have had. I suppose they Will release an xd2, but qualcomm is not possible (according to gpd qualcomm demands gpd to buy Too Many chips to get a decent price). So unless they find another chip or rockchip makes a rk3399 tablet SDK, Will remain on standby.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: p0rt4bl3_add1ct on March 16, 2017, 07:18:08 pm
What about putting a Mediatek (Helio x27, at least) inside a GPD XD2? It has a good performance, i think. I watched videos showing Gamecube emulator running at full speed on a phone with this chip.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on March 16, 2017, 08:02:08 pm
What about putting a Mediatek (Helio x27, at least) inside a GPD XD2? It has a good performance, i think. I watched videos showing Gamecube emulator running at full speed on a phone with this chip.

Only a few games run well of GC with helio x27. It's perhaps a bit expensive (some phones are about 300 bucks with that chip, so if you add i+d and controls it would cost twice the XD. Anyhow, it was one of the chips I suggested to them.
They don't have many choices if they cannot choose snapdragon or RK3399 or tegra. Basically they have to define the price range the XD2 will be, but if it's close or about 300 bucks, certainly a GPD WIN is a better choice (at least for me).
The fact they cannot choose RK3399 can be good, because RK3399 is not great. I am currently testing a RK3399 dev board, and performance is better than RK3288, but not a great difference with it (no vulkan support in RK3399 even though mali 860 support it, but RK has not implemented it)
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on March 17, 2017, 06:37:18 am
I just heard from GPD today, they are still planning to  launch the XD2, but it looks like it may be next year
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on March 17, 2017, 09:06:56 am
Yeah, probably they Will postponed It until they find a suitable and cheap SoC. For me gpd win is practically a xd2, but they would need to release a dual boot.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on March 23, 2017, 12:11:24 pm
Some news from GPD. It seems XD 2 is not in their plans anymore. They want to focus in Windows devices. They are considering a gaming phone with helio x20, but they are not sure if device can be successful or not, so at the moment is only an idea.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: ufo.mesh on March 23, 2017, 01:01:08 pm
Sad news for me. I would prefer new gaming console than new phone with ability to play games.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: azwel2 on March 23, 2017, 02:23:02 pm
the gpd xd is good enough anyway.   
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Rcoltrane on March 23, 2017, 02:29:15 pm
Some news from GPD. It seems XD 2 is not in their plans anymore. They want to focus in Windows devices. They are considering a gaming phone with helio x20, but they are not sure if device can be successful or not, so at the moment is only an idea.

Great news for me! ;D

However, I didn't like the idea of having a gaming phone. I prefer them to focus on Windows portable devices, such as the GPD Win 2.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on March 23, 2017, 02:37:46 pm
Some news from GPD. It seems XD 2 is not in their plans anymore. They want to focus in Windows devices. They are considering a gaming phone with helio x20, but they are not sure if device can be successful or not, so at the moment is only an idea.

Great news for me! ;D

However, I didn't like the idea of having a gaming phone. I prefer them to focus on Windows portable devices, such as the GPD Win 2.

Current GPD WIN is a great device, but not all people can spend 300 bucks in a handheld. Android devices fill that entry market
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: p0rt4bl3_add1ct on March 23, 2017, 03:39:50 pm
I approve the idea of a gaming phone. I had a Xperia Play and i loved it till it gets unuseful for having bad specs like lackage of ram and only 1 gb of rom so i couldn?t play newer games. A gaming phone with dedicated buttons, good cpu/gpu and at least 3gb ram would be welcome. I hope GPD makes it real.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: p0rt4bl3_add1ct on March 23, 2017, 03:41:35 pm
If they make a crowfunding campaign for a gaming phone, i will probably back it.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: salamandar on March 23, 2017, 03:44:40 pm
I would like the idea of a gaming phone , but only in one condition : it must be just like Xperia play,

actually, i was quiet suprised why no manufacter think of making a agaming phone like the xperia play,

but if Gpd want to make one, i will recommand to use xperia play design .
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: p0rt4bl3_add1ct on March 23, 2017, 04:44:07 pm
I would like the  ideo of a gaming phone , but only in one condition : it must be just like Xperia play,

actually, i was quiet suprised why no manufacter think of making a agaming phone like the xperia play,

but if Gpd want to make one, i will recommand to use xperia play design .
I agree completely with you. I can?t see better design for a gaming phone. PGS (assuming their project is real) took the hint.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on March 23, 2017, 04:57:15 pm
I agree that probably Xperia Play design is the way to go. Otherwise I wouldn't use it as a phone.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: siegel17701 on March 24, 2017, 12:30:20 am
Xperia Play was bulky. And the bar type like the Snail W3D / W1 or the JXD phone were seemed long. Don't know what a happy medium would be... That being said i would back a croudfunding.

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: siegel17701 on March 24, 2017, 12:31:58 am
What about a phone with a dedicated removable gamepad. Like the wikipad had, just a thought

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on March 24, 2017, 02:01:35 am
Some news from GPD. It seems XD 2 is not in their plans anymore. They want to focus in Windows devices. They are considering a gaming phone with helio x20, but they are not sure if device can be successful or not, so at the moment is only an idea.

I'm all for a gaming phone.  I think thats a brilliant idea 

That said, how is that deviating from having an XD2,  an XD2 was always going to be a physically different prospect to the current XD. Remember GPDs concept XD2 which had a 360 swiveling screen so that it could be used as a small tablet/phone. This still seems along the same line. ie I still see a gaming phone as an XD2.

Also, I dont understand your comment about GPD focussing now on Windows devices . Yet are planning the gaming phone with Helio x20 - which is ARM and most likely means Android also.   Seems like a huge contradiction.

As I said last last time,  Kendy confirmed to me on the 17th that the XD2 is still coming.  And it seems from what you said that they are looking at the form being a gaming phone.  Mybe this is just semantics in that maybe, they will call it something different.

Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: miroli on March 24, 2017, 08:26:48 am
I have just bought a JXD S5800 which is an android gamepad and smartphone together.
It cost cc. 100 USD, so it can be an alternative for those, who wants a handheld gameconsole and smartphone all in one.
I didnt regret buying this, it works very well.

Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on March 24, 2017, 09:11:14 am
Some news from GPD. It seems XD 2 is not in their plans anymore. They want to focus in Windows devices. They are considering a gaming phone with helio x20, but they are not sure if device can be successful or not, so at the moment is only an idea.

I'm all for a gaming phone.  I think thats a brilliant idea 

That said, how is that deviating from having an XD2,  an XD2 was always going to be a physically different prospect to the current XD. Remember GPDs concept XD2 which had a 360 swiveling screen so that it could be used as a small tablet/phone. This still seems along the same line. ie I still see a gaming phone as an XD2.

Also, I dont understand your comment about GPD focussing now on Windows devices . Yet are planning the gaming phone with Helio x20 - which is ARM and most likely means Android also.   Seems like a huge contradiction.

As I said last last time,  Kendy confirmed to me on the 17th that the XD2 is still coming.  And it seems from what you said that they are looking at the form being a gaming phone.  Mybe this is just semantics in that maybe, they will call it something different.
I spoke to samty yesterday. Samty is their enginneer of their Android devices. And that's what he told me. That gpd was going to Focus on Windows and that in case they release another Android device, would be a gaming phone probably. But their marketing department doesn't know for sure if there is market for such a device. So basically that's why I made this poll.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on March 24, 2017, 09:46:51 am
Some news from GPD. It seems XD 2 is not in their plans anymore. They want to focus in Windows devices. They are considering a gaming phone with helio x20, but they are not sure if device can be successful or not, so at the moment is only an idea.

I'm all for a gaming phone.  I think thats a brilliant idea 

That said, how is that deviating from having an XD2,  an XD2 was always going to be a physically different prospect to the current XD. Remember GPDs concept XD2 which had a 360 swiveling screen so that it could be used as a small tablet/phone. This still seems along the same line. ie I still see a gaming phone as an XD2.

Also, I dont understand your comment about GPD focussing now on Windows devices . Yet are planning the gaming phone with Helio x20 - which is ARM and most likely means Android also.   Seems like a huge contradiction.

As I said last last time,  Kendy confirmed to me on the 17th that the XD2 is still coming.  And it seems from what you said that they are looking at the form being a gaming phone.  Mybe this is just semantics in that maybe, they will call it something different.
I spoke to samty yesterday. Samty is their enginneer of their Android devices. And that's what he told me. That gpd was going to Focus on Windows and that in case they release another Android device, would be a gaming phone probably. But their marketing department doesn't know for sure if there is market for such a device. So basically that's why I made this poll.

I see, that makes it more clearer. 

In regards to if there is  a market for a gaming phone. I think there is a large market for such a thing. In fact I was going to suggest it to Kendy as apossible device GPD could make. You only need to look at the PGS , before the  team behind it was called out, it had raised $360k in 10 days.  The GPD WIN , which is very successfull , only raised $160k in it first 10 days
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on March 24, 2017, 10:03:44 am
I think there is market for a normal xd 2 or a gaming phone. Gpd win is very nice but not all people need Windows gaming or can buy it, so a cheaper android unit fill the entry market, like current xd. I still Hope they reconsider It and release an xd successor.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: siegel17701 on March 27, 2017, 01:09:53 am
The win is a good device but I thin I'm similar to a lot of people who have tons of android games and love the platform.  You can a the win is like an XD 2 but it is in a different catagory.  And this comes from someone with both.

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on March 27, 2017, 03:56:18 pm
The win is a good device but I thin I'm similar to a lot of people who have tons of android games and love the platform.  You can a the win is like an XD 2 but it is in a different catagory.  And this comes from someone with both.

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Well, I meant for emulation. I am not a fan of android gaming. Anyhow, they should have added duaboot to the win and probably would be an XD 2.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on April 08, 2017, 12:02:26 pm
some news from GPD. GPD has reconsidered to release an XD2. Device will use the MTK 8176 similar to xiaomi mipad3 presented recently.

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Mediatek-MT8176-SoC-Benchmarks-and-Specs.187985.0.html

Specs of ths chipset are according to MTK:

CPU Cluster 1:
ARM Cortex-A72 @ 2.1GHz
CPU Cluster 2:
ARM Cortex-A53 @ 1.7GHz
CPU Core:
Hexa (6)
CPU Bits:
64-bit
Heterogeneous Multi Processing:
Yes
Memory:
LPDDR3 (Dual Channel)

GPU Type:
IMG PowerVR GX6250

Connectivity:
Bluetooth,
Wi-Fi
Wi-Fi (IEEE 802.11):
a/b/g/n/ac
Wi-Fi Frequency:
2.4GHz,
5GHz


No idea about release date (won't be soon) or if the device will keep form factor or they will use different design though

Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on April 08, 2017, 12:35:29 pm
@skelton

The GPU side doesn't look that great.  The GX6250 is a Jan 2014 design

I thought they were considering the X20, 25 or X30?

Personally I think they should try for the X30
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on April 08, 2017, 12:55:26 pm
@skelton

The GPU side doesn't look that great.  The GX6250 is a Jan 2014 design

I thought they were considering the X20, 25 or X30?

Personally I think they should try for the X30
Probably the x30 is more expensive and they wann to cheaper. The gpu is not bad, my helio x10 has an older powervr model and peforms quite good, better than current x.d. android games doesn't need a great GPU, and the only GPU interesting would be tegra which is out of the question because Nvidia doesn't supply chips.
They also told me the design Will be like old Nokia n97, with slide controls, i suppose something similar to Xperia Play.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on April 08, 2017, 01:02:23 pm
@skelton

The GPU side doesn't look that great.  The GX6250 is a Jan 2014 design

I thought they were considering the X20, 25 or X30?

Personally I think they should try for the X30
Probably the x30 is more expensive and they wann to cheaper. The gpu is not bad, my helio x10 has an older powervr model and peforms quite good, better than current x.d. android games doesn't need a great GPU, and the only GPU interesting would be tegra which is out of the question because Nvidia doesn't supply chips.
They also told me the design Will be like old Nokia n97, with slide controls, i suppose something similar to Xperia Play.

Sounds like they are still aiming for a gaming phone.  Personally I don't mind that idea, at least it's different and will also allow you to play touch games when the screen is slid down.

But I'm concerned about the reception generally, especially given the responce to the poll you started here: http://boards.dingoonity.org/gpd-android-devices/would-you-be-interested-in-a-gaming-android-phone-by-gpd/
Half of everyone polled seemed to have a negative reaction to the idea
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on April 08, 2017, 01:12:05 pm
Well, i see phone features as an addon but I doubt I Will use as a phone. I suppose the success may depend on the price.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: CRaul87 on April 08, 2017, 01:38:06 pm
I would not mind paying more for better hardware, the fact that they intend for a different form factor is worrying me...

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: CRaul87 on April 08, 2017, 01:39:13 pm
They should definitely keep us in the loop for feedback if they don't want to lunch a dud.

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: AVahne on April 08, 2017, 05:17:18 pm
So it's basically a new Xperia Play? That solved their little tablet mode issue, but I still prefer clamshells.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on April 08, 2017, 07:39:04 pm
So it's basically a new Xperia Play? That solved their little tablet mode issue, but I still prefer clamshells.

It seems so. If I get some more info I will keep us updated.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: konpia on April 09, 2017, 03:08:56 am
People are buying these Chinese devices is because of it resembling to the original hardware and improvement over the original hardware. In my opinion, the XD2 only need an upgrade in term of the internal spec and better quality dpad and buttons.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: dreamesper on April 09, 2017, 07:29:44 am
I agree... the XD2, while great as an idea, is ways off from release. I think the GPD XD, as it is right now, is fine for most console emulation.

Who can argue needing more than Dreamcast emulation on the go!?

:o
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: siegel17701 on April 09, 2017, 07:25:38 pm
The more I think about a GPD gaming phone the more I'm interested. GPD has mostly hit with what they do. As they move on the better they get. I'm becoming a GPD Fanboy. I've had at least 4 of the devices, multiple at the same time.

As long as it gets 4G/LTE I'd probably get it. And more than 16Gb/4GB internal.

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: p0rt4bl3_add1ct on April 10, 2017, 01:27:14 pm
I agree... the XD2, while great as an idea, is ways off from release. I think the GPD XD, as it is right now, is fine for most console emulation.

Who can argue needing more than Dreamcast emulation on the go!?

:o

Ah, man. Sincerely after watching some phones running Resident Evil 4 on gamecube emulator at full speed made me thinking different. I want a device able to (at least some games) Gamecube emulation. Dreamcast is not the limit anymore.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on April 10, 2017, 03:52:51 pm
I agree... the XD2, while great as an idea, is ways off from release. I think the GPD XD, as it is right now, is fine for most console emulation.

Who can argue needing more than Dreamcast emulation on the go!?

:o

Ah, man. Sincerely after watching some phones running Resident Evil 4 on gamecube emulator at full speed made me thinking different. I want a device able to (at least some games) Gamecube emulation. Dreamcast is not the limit anymore.

Gamecube is still far from perfect on Android. Even on a Shield TV which is the most powerful android device some games are slow. GPD WIN run mahy games fullspeed though and it's a handheld
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: p0rt4bl3_add1ct on April 10, 2017, 05:08:55 pm
I agree... the XD2, while great as an idea, is ways off from release. I think the GPD XD, as it is right now, is fine for most console emulation.

Who can argue needing more than Dreamcast emulation on the go!?

:o

Ah, man. Sincerely after watching some phones running Resident Evil 4 on gamecube emulator at full speed made me thinking different. I want a device able to (at least some games) Gamecube emulation. Dreamcast is not the limit anymore.

Gamecube is still far from perfect on Android. Even on a Shield TV which is the most powerful android device some games are slow. GPD WIN run mahy games fullspeed though and it's a handheld
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kui5h-UwSBg
I really got impressed with.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on April 10, 2017, 05:27:47 pm
Yep, but only a few games work fine with snapdragon 821 and setup dolphin with underclock to 30 percent (which only speds up some games). Resident Evil 4 is one less demanfinf GC titles for Dolphin. The shield TV is more powerful and struggles with many gc games. for example F-Zero GX.

Anyhow, xd2 will not use that snapdragon, so I doubt Dolphin will be playable, PPSSPP and uoyabause should run better than current XD though.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: p0rt4bl3_add1ct on April 10, 2017, 08:16:02 pm
I agree... the XD2, while great as an idea, is ways off from release. I think the GPD XD, as it is right now, is fine for most console emulation.

Who can argue needing more than Dreamcast emulation on the go!?

:o

Ah, man. Sincerely after watching some phones running Resident Evil 4 on gamecube emulator at full speed made me thinking different. I want a device able to (at least some games) Gamecube emulation. Dreamcast is not the limit anymore.

Gamecube is still far from perfect on Android. Even on a Shield TV which is the most powerful android device some games are slow. GPD WIN run mahy games fullspeed though and it's a handheld
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kui5h-UwSBg
I really got impressed with.
They will use the same Soc than Xiaomi with Mipad 3 tablet? They are "considering" using it or they already decided it? Probably it may be hard to make them chenge their minds and using at least a Helio X27, right?
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: p0rt4bl3_add1ct on April 10, 2017, 08:18:37 pm
I agree... the XD2, while great as an idea, is ways off from release. I think the GPD XD, as it is right now, is fine for most console emulation.

Who can argue needing more than Dreamcast emulation on the go!?

:o
It looks like Helio X27 is capable of heavy emulation.

Ah, man. Sincerely after watching some phones running Resident Evil 4 on gamecube emulator at full speed made me thinking different. I want a device able to (at least some games) Gamecube emulation. Dreamcast is not the limit anymore.

Gamecube is still far from perfect on Android. Even on a Shield TV which is the most powerful android device some games are slow. GPD WIN run mahy games fullspeed though and it's a handheld
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kui5h-UwSBg
I really got impressed with.
They will use the same Soc than Xiaomi with Mipad 3 tablet? They are "considering" using it or they already decided it? Probably it may be hard to make them chenge their minds and using at least a Helio X27, right?
The Helio X27 looks capable of heavy emulation.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on April 10, 2017, 09:07:18 pm
They will use the same as xiaomi mipad3. I suppose they don't use helio x27 because of price, they probably want to release it at an affordable price like current XD. To be honest if they release an android device for emulation for 300 bucks or so, then  the GPD WIN is a better option for emulation, because it has better MAMe, GC, Saturn, etc... than Android.

I would consider XD 2 as an entry level device for emulation, like current XD, and GPD WIN as their top product,.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: wade on April 11, 2017, 09:30:59 am
They will use the same as xiaomi mipad3. I suppose they don't use helio x27 because of price, they probably want to release it at an affordable price like current XD. To be honest if they release an android device for emulation for 300 bucks or so, then  the GPD WIN is a better option for emulation, because it has better MAMe, GC, Saturn, etc... than Android.

I would consider XD 2 as an entry level device for emulation, like current XD, and GPD WIN as their top product,.

6 inches sideslip 720 p
MTK8176 2 + 32g  5000-6000MA  WIFI+BT
<$200
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on April 11, 2017, 09:50:48 am
They will use the same as xiaomi mipad3. I suppose they don't use helio x27 because of price, they probably want to release it at an affordable price like current XD. To be honest if they release an android device for emulation for 300 bucks or so, then  the GPD WIN is a better option for emulation, because it has better MAMe, GC, Saturn, etc... than Android.

I would consider XD 2 as an entry level device for emulation, like current XD, and GPD WIN as their top product,.

6 inches sideslip 720 p
MTK8176 2 + 32g  5000-6000MA  WIFI+BT
<$200
That's what samty told me. It will include phone options or only 4g?
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: wade on April 11, 2017, 09:59:53 am
They will use the same as xiaomi mipad3. I suppose they don't use helio x27 because of price, they probably want to release it at an affordable price like current XD. To be honest if they release an android device for emulation for 300 bucks or so, then  the GPD WIN is a better option for emulation, because it has better MAMe, GC, Saturn, etc... than Android.

I would consider XD 2 as an entry level device for emulation, like current XD, and GPD WIN as their top product,.

6 inches sideslip 720 p
MTK8176 2 + 32g  5000-6000MA  WIFI+BT
<$200
That's what samty told me. It will include phone options or only 4g?

no phone or 4G ;D
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on April 11, 2017, 10:00:55 am
They will use the same as xiaomi mipad3. I suppose they don't use helio x27 because of price, they probably want to release it at an affordable price like current XD. To be honest if they release an android device for emulation for 300 bucks or so, then  the GPD WIN is a better option for emulation, because it has better MAMe, GC, Saturn, etc... than Android.

I would consider XD 2 as an entry level device for emulation, like current XD, and GPD WIN as their top product,.

6 inches sideslip 720 p
MTK8176 2 + 32g  5000-6000MA  WIFI+BT
<$200
That's what samty told me. It will include phone options or only 4g?

no phone or 4G ;D
Ok thanks. Any idea about android version? Android 6? Android 7?
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on April 11, 2017, 10:03:06 am
They will use the same as xiaomi mipad3. I suppose they don't use helio x27 because of price, they probably want to release it at an affordable price like current XD. To be honest if they release an android device for emulation for 300 bucks or so, then  the GPD WIN is a better option for emulation, because it has better MAMe, GC, Saturn, etc... than Android.

I would consider XD 2 as an entry level device for emulation, like current XD, and GPD WIN as their top product,.

6 inches sideslip 720 p
MTK8176 2 + 32g  5000-6000MA  WIFI+BT
<$200
That's what samty told me. It will include phone options or only 4g?

no phone or 4G ;D

Keep the clamshell form factor then.   There is no point going for a slider with no phone functionality.  The only beneift of a slider would then be to also play touch games, but the people who buy the XD are not really touch game players.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: wade on April 11, 2017, 10:22:20 am
They will use the same as xiaomi mipad3. I suppose they don't use helio x27 because of price, they probably want to release it at an affordable price like current XD. To be honest if they release an android device for emulation for 300 bucks or so, then  the GPD WIN is a better option for emulation, because it has better MAMe, GC, Saturn, etc... than Android.

I would consider XD 2 as an entry level device for emulation, like current XD, and GPD WIN as their top product,.

6 inches sideslip 720 p
MTK8176 2 + 32g  5000-6000MA  WIFI+BT
<$200
That's what samty told me. It will include phone options or only 4g?

no phone or 4G ;D

Keep the clamshell form factor then.   There is no point going for a slider with no phone functionality.  The only beneift of a slider would then be to also play touch games, but the people who buy the XD are not really touch game players.

Sideslip won't reduce the simulator of user experience, but can improve the experience of tablet mode, there are some players need this
The future may have a new product with the function of the phone But it is not suitable for to do such a product, because our technical accumulation is not enough
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: wade on April 11, 2017, 10:26:58 am
They will use the same as xiaomi mipad3. I suppose they don't use helio x27 because of price, they probably want to release it at an affordable price like current XD. To be honest if they release an android device for emulation for 300 bucks or so, then  the GPD WIN is a better option for emulation, because it has better MAMe, GC, Saturn, etc... than Android.

I would consider XD 2 as an entry level device for emulation, like current XD, and GPD WIN as their top product,.

6 inches sideslip 720 p
MTK8176 2 + 32g  5000-6000MA  WIFI+BT
<$200
That's what samty told me. It will include phone options or only 4g?

no phone or 4G ;D

Keep the clamshell form factor then.   There is no point going for a slider with no phone functionality.  The only beneift of a slider would then be to also play touch games, but the people who buy the XD are not really touch game players.

We need to try the sideslip form this new products
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on April 11, 2017, 10:33:45 am
They will use the same as xiaomi mipad3. I suppose they don't use helio x27 because of price, they probably want to release it at an affordable price like current XD. To be honest if they release an android device for emulation for 300 bucks or so, then  the GPD WIN is a better option for emulation, because it has better MAMe, GC, Saturn, etc... than Android.

I would consider XD 2 as an entry level device for emulation, like current XD, and GPD WIN as their top product,.

6 inches sideslip 720 p
MTK8176 2 + 32g  5000-6000MA  WIFI+BT
<$200
That's what samty told me. It will include phone options or only 4g?

no phone or 4G ;D

Keep the clamshell form factor then.   There is no point going for a slider with no phone functionality.  The only beneift of a slider would then be to also play touch games, but the people who buy the XD are not really touch game players.

Sideslip won't reduce the simulator of user experience, but can improve the experience of tablet mode, there are some players need this
The future may have a new product with the function of the phone But it is not suitable for to do such a product, because our technical accumulation is not enough

I can understand not doing a gaming phone  .   I agree with you there.  I'm just not sure about the slider form factor. It does allow you to play touch games, but I'm a little worried about how comfortable it would be playing games with the slide out controls.  Sliders don't leave a lot of room for the controls, but I guess we will see.

That all said,   I can't wait to see it and good luck for it's launch



Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: p0rt4bl3_add1ct on April 11, 2017, 04:01:19 pm
Skelton, how much ram the new device will have? They told you?
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on April 11, 2017, 04:06:40 pm
Wade from gpd answered that a few posts ago..


6 inches sideslip 720 p
MTK8176 2 + 32g  5000-6000MA  WIFI+BT
<$200


So i suppose it's 2 with 32 of internal memory. With that chipset i don't think more RAM is needed. Shield TV has 3 because their GPU consume 1 tb.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: KSS1992 on April 11, 2017, 06:45:30 pm
So this device is still happening? Thats good. hasn't been much news since a year ago so I figured the GPD Win was their focus now

If its actually happening ill hold off buying a GPD XD. I was tempted to get a GPD Q9 after I got the Nintendo Switch bc Switch feels So good in your hands but I feel like its closer to handheld size than tablet size so the Q9 may feel much larger than the switch
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: KSS1992 on April 11, 2017, 06:49:51 pm
What does Sideslip mean?



Wade from gpd answered that a few posts ago..


6 inches sideslip 720 p
MTK8176 2 + 32g  5000-6000MA  WIFI+BT
<$200


So i suppose it's 2 with 32 of internal memory. With that chipset i don't think more RAM is needed. Shield TV has 3 because their GPU consume 1 tb.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on April 11, 2017, 07:29:57 pm
What does Sideslip mean?



Wade from gpd answered that a few posts ago..


6 inches sideslip 720 p
MTK8176 2 + 32g  5000-6000MA  WIFI+BT
<$200


So i suppose it's 2 with 32 of internal memory. With that chipset i don't think more RAM is needed. Shield TV has 3 because their GPU consume 1 tb.

Slide controls in the line of the xperia play or psp go.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: p0rt4bl3_add1ct on April 11, 2017, 10:31:34 pm
I think i will pass it. With only 2 gb ram and a poor GPU i would prefer awaiting for a powerful chineses smartphone like Oneplus 5 or Xiaomi Mi6 with 4, 6 gb ram and Snapdragon 835 and play it with a gamepad. But i will give a chance to GPD Win 2.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on April 11, 2017, 10:37:57 pm
Well, it's a different target. Phones with snapdragon 835 are not precisely cheap. Gpd XD 2 is thought to be affordable. Current gpd win may fit your needs though if you want to emulate GC.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: KSS1992 on April 12, 2017, 12:59:13 pm
Oh I see ahhhh man I was hoping it would either keep the clamshell or that side slip would've meant the controls literally slipped out of the side and became like a vita (but with full R1/R2 L1/L2 like the JXD S5800) But hey who knows maybe it'll be great. Those initial pics posted a year ago show the clamshell design i guess they changed their minds




What does Sideslip mean?



Wade from gpd answered that a few posts ago..


6 inches sideslip 720 p
MTK8176 2 + 32g  5000-6000MA  WIFI+BT
<$200


So i suppose it's 2 with 32 of internal memory. With that chipset i don't think more RAM is needed. Shield TV has 3 because their GPU consume 1 tb.

Slide controls in the line of the xperia play or psp go.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: CRaul87 on April 13, 2017, 01:47:56 am
So this device is still happening? Thats good. hasn't been much news since a year ago so I figured the GPD Win was their focus now

If its actually happening ill hold off buying a GPD XD. I was tempted to get a GPD Q9 after I got the Nintendo Switch bc Switch feels So good in your hands but I feel like its closer to handheld size than tablet size so the Q9 may feel much larger than the switch
If I were you I would not hold off.
1).The current GPD XD is amazing.
2). The GPD XD 2 may be further away than we think...

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: AlucardX on April 13, 2017, 08:45:45 am
They will use the same as xiaomi mipad3. I suppose they don't use helio x27 because of price, they probably want to release it at an affordable price like current XD. To be honest if they release an android device for emulation for 300 bucks or so, then  the GPD WIN is a better option for emulation, because it has better MAMe, GC, Saturn, etc... than Android.

I would consider XD 2 as an entry level device for emulation, like current XD, and GPD WIN as their top product,.

After watching new videos of samsung galaxy s8 play gamecube games on dolphin flawlessly (super mario sunshine, smash bros, and wind waker), I would be happy to pay ~$500 for GPD XD android device with better cpu/gpu that could emulate gamecube and ps2. I mean having playable the whole games library of gamecube, ps2, psp, nds and all the consoles before them in your pocket would be priceless!
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on April 13, 2017, 09:48:22 am
Ps2 in Android is imposible at the moment. If you need gc emulation gpd win is even cheaper than 500 bucks, and os better emulates than on android. Dolphin in Android is still worse than windows builds. Mario sunshine , wind waker or Mario kart are easy to emulate. But try emiuating metroid Prime for instance. Even the shield tv with la GPU struggles with many gc titles. The fact that some games are playable on android doesn't mean all gc is fullspeed.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: KSS1992 on April 13, 2017, 02:56:01 pm
If anyone has a wii u super random sorry but the best way to emulate gamecube is with Nintendont. Its a homebrew app that emulates the games from isos as if they were being natively played, no slowdowns whatsoever or glitches, and the graphics are even slightly uprezzed from 480P to 720P it just doesnt look quite as good as dolphin on pc of course, but its runs the games as if they were being played on an actual gamecube without the at times glitchyness and stutter of dolphin

On a side note yeah android emu of gc isnt the best right now, but i think in time itll improve vastly

Ps2 in Android is imposible at the moment. If you need gc emulation gpd win is even cheaper than 500 bucks, and os better emulates than on android. Dolphin in Android is still worse than windows builds. Mario sunshine , wind waker or Mario kart are easy to emulate. But try emiuating metroid Prime for instance. Even the shield tv with la GPU struggles with many gc titles. The fact that some games are playable on android doesn't mean all gc is fullspeed.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on April 13, 2017, 03:20:04 pm
Dolphin doesn't stutter or has Many glitches. Since 5.0 has improved a lot
In fact some games look better than original hardware. Anyhow, what wiiu does is.not emulation. Like PSVita running PSP games..And wiu is not a handheld (in spite of the tablet controllers)
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: KSS1992 on April 13, 2017, 03:49:27 pm
True True thats right its not a handheld, it would be amazing if someone hacks the switch one day to play gamecube, and true I've Noticed that its like the Vita running PSP games, and Thats good that the new Dolphin runs that well and yes Dolphin has always been notorious for making the graphics new and HD quality which is awesome.  I guess I have to tweek better just cause Ill get slowdowns during Smash Brawl and some games where the audio will (for a brief second) cut out and in (smash bros melee even and Simpsons Road Rage & Simpsons Hit and Run)

Dolphin doesn't stutter or has Many glitches. Since 5.0 has improved a lot
In fact some games look better than original hardware. Anyhow, what wiiu does is.not emulation. Like PSVita running PSP games..And wiu is not a handheld (in spite of the tablet controllers)
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on April 13, 2017, 04:02:54 pm
The switch is arm so i don't think is retrocompatible with gc or wii.
An emulator should be used like dolphin, so It would run like shield TV ir maybe worse because switch uses a downcloked tegra x1
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: nmkd on April 14, 2017, 09:16:55 pm
They will use the same as xiaomi mipad3. I suppose they don't use helio x27 because of price, they probably want to release it at an affordable price like current XD. To be honest if they release an android device for emulation for 300 bucks or so, then  the GPD WIN is a better option for emulation, because it has better MAMe, GC, Saturn, etc... than Android.

I would consider XD 2 as an entry level device for emulation, like current XD, and GPD WIN as their top product,.

After watching new videos of samsung galaxy s8 play gamecube games on dolphin flawlessly (super mario sunshine, smash bros, and wind waker), I would be happy to pay ~$500 for GPD XD android device with better cpu/gpu that could emulate gamecube and ps2. I mean having playable the whole games library of gamecube, ps2, psp, nds and all the consoles before them in your pocket would be priceless!
Dude just get a GPD Win for $300...

It can play Mario Sunshine and Wind Waker.

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: salamandar on April 15, 2017, 12:16:32 am
buy Gpd win if you want to play demanding games, like gamecube and wii

but gpd xd if you want to play android game and old school game, arcade, ps1, psp. why gpd xd ? because is you game a gamer pc, usually you wont play ps1 games, but with the gpd xd, you will enjoy playing those games a lot, and i think people already explined this .
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: siegel17701 on April 16, 2017, 10:50:04 pm
I just got a win. 10 minutes and the screen went black. D.O.A. Now I'm trying to send it back.

My XD has been perfect!

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on April 16, 2017, 11:03:01 pm
I just got a win. 10 minutes and the screen went black. D.O.A. Now I'm trying to send it back.

My XD has been perfect!

Sent from my MI MAX using Tapatalk

Maybe it came without battery or device went to sleep. Any device can be defective though, no matter if it's an XD or a win. I have both working like first day (my brother uses my XD now)
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: RoyalT17 on April 16, 2017, 11:05:32 pm
Sleep only to never wake again....
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: siegel17701 on April 16, 2017, 11:47:24 pm
Funny. I wish it was just sleeping. It was on then it froze and the green went black. Nothing I do wakes it up. Boot screen doesn't even appear.

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: AlucardX on April 18, 2017, 02:53:39 am
buy Gpd win if you want to play demanding games, like gamecube and wii

but gpd xd if you want to play android game and old school game, arcade, ps1, psp. why gpd xd ? because is you game a gamer pc, usually you wont play ps1 games, but with the gpd xd, you will enjoy playing those games a lot, and i think people already explined this .

Gpd win is an ambitious product but it's a desktop Windows on 5 inch screen, not very portable friendly, and from what I'm reading online and seeing on YouTube, to play gc/wii and ps2 at full speed requires unsafe tweaking to bios. I give them props for first ever portable windows 10 gaming device, that's quite a feat, but like GPD xd it's far from perfect. Good thing there is always room for improvement with next iterations.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: golgolt on April 26, 2017, 11:38:08 am
the snapdragon 835 is pretty good with dolphin:
link of the Galaxy S8 running some games on dolphin:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNA-DLQEmQU

GPD should release two version of the XD2, like the smachz

_ the GPD XD2 : 6 inches sideslip 720 p
MTK8176 2 + 32g  5000-6000MA  WIFI+BT
<$200
_ and the GPD XD2 PRO: 6 inches sideslip 720 p
SNAPDRAGON 835 4 + 32g  5000-6000MA  WIFI+BT
<$350/400

They can make an indiegogo to see if people want it
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on April 26, 2017, 11:50:38 am
If they release it with snapdragon 835 i would cost near 600 bucks minimum (Just check price ox xiamomi mi 6 or galaxy s8). To be honest to spend 600 bucks in an android device for emulation I just prefer GPD WIN, that also emulates GC and WII and lots of windows games that are much better than android ones.

I think GPD will look for a different target with XD 2, those that just want an affordable device. For premium devices they have their windows ones. Just my guess. They can try with indiegogo campain though, but as fas as I knw,  they already contacted Qualcomm and they demand to but an excesive amount of chips, something that Samsung or Xiaomi can do, but not a small company like GPD.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: golgolt on April 26, 2017, 12:19:26 pm
If they release it with snapdragon 835 i would cost near 600 bucks minimum (Just check price ox xiamomi mi 6 or galaxy s8). To be honest to spend 600 bucks in an android device for emulation I just prefer GPD WIN, that also emulates GC and WII and lots of windows games that are much better than android ones.

I think GPD will look for a different target with XD 2, those that just want an affordable device. For premium devices they have their windows ones. Just my guess. They can try with indiegogo campain though, but as fas as I knw,  they already contacted Qualcomm and they demand to but an excesive amount of chips, something that Samsung or Xiaomi can do, but not a small company like GPD.

thanks for the info, i didn't know that qualcomm ask this much for their s835!
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: alyinsanfran on April 26, 2017, 03:16:04 pm
I think GPD will look for a different target with XD 2, those that just want an affordable device.

This. And the fact it's Android - ultra stable, quick and easy to set up. I'd upgrade if they offered more of the same for similar money.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: dubsmachine on May 04, 2017, 02:01:00 pm
I would want it to run the latest version of Android too, I don't want to buy a device stuck on Android 5 when we are already on Android 7.something.

I want a device that is powerful and will last a few years.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: MOFO on May 07, 2017, 05:36:50 pm
Make it the same physical size but add a bigger screen, can easily cut down the borders and fit a bigger screen.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: ripblade on May 09, 2017, 06:23:45 pm
does anybody know if the GPD XD 2 is actually gonna happen
with GPD pocket gonna ahead & the win 2
will we see GPD XD 2 ?
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on May 09, 2017, 06:36:05 pm
See a few posts above, it was confirmed by @wade which works at GPD.

Specs:

GPD XD2 : 6 inches sideslip 720 p
MTK8176 2 + 32g  5000-6000MA  WIFI+BT

It will be a different style, more PSP-Go like with sliding controls.

Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: retroster on May 09, 2017, 11:18:17 pm
Do all GPD hardware go through kick-starter? So this new device could be up to a year away?
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on May 10, 2017, 09:42:10 am
Not always, only gpd win and pocket were in indiegogo. I think until 2018 won't be released, but not sure.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: PsyOps on May 10, 2017, 11:02:53 am
That is a LONG time 8)
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: salamandar on May 10, 2017, 11:49:44 am
I'm pretty sure, by that time, we will have PS4 and Nintendo switch emulation on our handheld  8)
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on May 10, 2017, 11:59:18 am
Obviosuly I meant 2018 xDD- That MTK is mid end device, quite similar to RK3399 or snapdragon 650, so I wouldn't expect huge differences in performance in comparison to current XD
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: retroster on May 10, 2017, 12:41:48 pm
Obviosuly I meant 2018 xDD- That MTK is mid end device, quite similar to RK3399 or snapdragon 650, so I wouldn't expect huge differences in performance in comparison to current XD

Yeah and by the time it comes out, its a dated cpu...
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: wade on May 11, 2017, 07:05:20 am
Not always, only gpd win and pocket were in indiegogo. I think until 2018 won't be released, but not sure.

初步的构想图 ;)
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on May 11, 2017, 09:51:24 am
Not always, only gpd win and pocket were in indiegogo. I think until 2018 won't be released, but not sure.

初步的构想图 ;)
@wade, seems nice but make sure that the bars that Hold screen are good enough and cannot break easily.
Also. Is there a tf card port?
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on May 11, 2017, 10:51:07 am
hmmm, Interesting.  I can see the power button has moved to the back.  Would have been nice if this was also done on the WIN 2.

Also, it looks like they are doing another Pocket, ie minimal ports.  I hope they end up including the SD slot
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on May 11, 2017, 11:04:10 am
I hope too, because in android SD is better supported in firmwares than usb .
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: redlemon on May 11, 2017, 11:34:33 am
That's not bad looking actually. I thought it would be poorer since I was thinking of the xperia play which had a poor grip but the base still looks fairly comfortable.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Faust on May 11, 2017, 01:34:40 pm
Not always, only gpd win and pocket were in indiegogo. I think until 2018 won't be released, but not sure.

初步的构想图 ;)
Lots of people would buy it if you add phone capabilities (call, SMS, 3g, 4g, GPS, etc...) including myself.

I can clearly see the successor of the Xperia play
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on May 11, 2017, 01:42:13 pm
Not always, only gpd win and pocket were in indiegogo. I think until 2018 won't be released, but not sure.

初步的构想图 ;)
Lots of people would buy it if you add phone capabilities (call, SMS, 3g, 4g, GPS, etc...) including myself.

I can clearly see the successor of the Xperia play

Unfortunately the chipset they chose don't admit phone capabllities, because is a tablet MTK SoC, not a phone one. If they change it to an helio could be possible though.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: chewy82 on May 11, 2017, 01:43:23 pm
Am I alone in thinking a slide out would be the best option? I like to use my gaming devices as tablets to read on, and I still play Pokemon GO so this would be ideal.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on May 12, 2017, 05:15:41 am
I must admit, I have lost interest in a XD2.  After using the GPD WIN to play Windows games, I cannot see myself going back to playing inferior Android games.  IMO, it's a back step.

That said, I know others do want it, after all , it should be a lot cheaper and provide an option for those who want  a cheaper gaming handheld .
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on May 12, 2017, 09:30:08 am

That said, I know others do want it, after all , it should be a lot cheaper and provide an option for those who want  a cheaper gaming handheld option.
That's the key and the target GPD looks for i guess. Just a cheap emulation device for those that doesn't need more. Though current xd fit that purpose, It just needs a bit more power.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: KSS1992 on May 12, 2017, 07:41:50 pm

That said, I know others do want it, after all , it should be a lot cheaper and provide an option for those who want  a cheaper gaming handheld option.
That's the key and the target GPD looks for i guess. Just a cheap emulation device for those that doesn't need more. Though current xd fit that purpose, It just needs a bit more power.

Was super close to selling my shield to get the GPD WIN (any device that can play the resident evil remaster anywhere you go is amazing) but I already have an 2015 alienware alpha i5 i feel like replacing my shield with the win is maybe just overkill or unnecessary even tho RE Remake on the go sounds so dope. What do you guys think Im excited to see what the GPD XD 2 will offer (obviously not the RE remake on the go lol would be so dope if someone modded a version of that for Android)
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: spearmint on May 12, 2017, 11:46:22 pm
I'd definitely buy the GPD XD2 as soon as it drops. I think the PSP GO form factor is great.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: tsukasa67 on May 13, 2017, 03:29:21 am
Wow that concept looks beautiful! My main complaint with my current XD is that I can't play touch based android games and some DS games easily. Having it a slider would fix this issue. Only worry would be potential screen wobble in both extended and retracted modes. Would drive me nuts if the screen moved too much while the controller is hidden. Would buy this in a heartbeat if those concerns are addressed.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: retroster on May 13, 2017, 02:17:16 pm
Say goodbye to it if it drops. But I'd get it too, just not Revision A.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: spearmint on May 13, 2017, 06:10:25 pm
Say goodbye to it if it drops. But I'd get it too, just not Revision A.

Why, are GPD's early batches notoriously bad or something?

Anyway... I just got into those devices and I'm amazed that used GPD XD still gets sold for 130$+ used. Even though the hardware is 18 months old. Android devices usually get massively discounted at this point.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: tiagao_extremo on May 13, 2017, 06:32:14 pm
Why, are GPD's early batches notoriously bad or something?

Anyway... I just got into those devices and I'm amazed that used GPD XD still gets sold for 130$+ used. Even though the hardware is 18 months old. Android devices usually get massively discounted at this point.

My guessing would be that none of these chinese companies has a quality control department. They just release their devices hoping that everything is all right, and fixing issues after having some return of their initial investment. That would explain why there's always a few bad batches when they start to sell a new device.
Title: GPD XD2
Post by: retroster on May 13, 2017, 07:05:57 pm
Say goodbye to it if it drops. But I'd get it too, just not Revision A.

Why, are GPD's early batches notoriously bad or something?

Anyway... I just got into those devices and I'm amazed that used GPD XD still gets sold for 130$+ used. Even though the hardware is 18 months old. Android devices usually get massively discounted at this point.

Revision As' are very likely to have issues for any brand, even Apple and Samsung. So GPD... gives me very little confidence especially considering they're making a slide controller as opposed to sticking to the clamshell formula which they've had some experience with on the XD and WIN.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: dreamesper on May 13, 2017, 08:32:48 pm
I can understand a GPD XD2 within 2-3 years... but say GPD releases it sooner, what good is that gonna do for anyone? Really? XD already plays up to Dreamcast era near flawlessly... ya, there's the Wii/GC/ps2... but ps2 is still a long way off till it gets perfected.

idk, if I were GPD, I definitely wouldn't see a need to push the envelope so soon so fast... not entirely necessary unless I'm missing something.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on May 13, 2017, 09:14:02 pm
I can understand a GPD XD2 within 2-3 years... but say GPD releases it sooner, what good is that gonna do for anyone? Really? XD already plays up to Dreamcast era near flawlessly... ya, there's the Wii/GC/ps2... but ps2 is still a long way off till it gets perfected.

idk, if I were GPD, I definitely wouldn't see a need to push the envelope so soon so fast... not entirely necessary unless I'm missing something.
PSP and Saturn would be improved I guess. But probably for people that already have an XD won't need a XD 2. I personally with a GPd win don't need an android device anymore
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: nex86 on May 13, 2017, 11:20:08 pm
Not always, only gpd win and pocket were in indiegogo. I think until 2018 won't be released, but not sure.

初步的构想图 ;)

Does it have a Micro SD card slot?
We do need one for bigger games..
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: retroster on May 14, 2017, 03:49:32 am
I can understand a GPD XD2 within 2-3 years... but say GPD releases it sooner, what good is that gonna do for anyone? Really? XD already plays up to Dreamcast era near flawlessly... ya, there's the Wii/GC/ps2... but ps2 is still a long way off till it gets perfected.

idk, if I were GPD, I definitely wouldn't see a need to push the envelope so soon so fast... not entirely necessary unless I'm missing something.
PSP and Saturn would be improved I guess. But probably for people that already have an XD won't need a XD 2. I personally with a GPd win don't need an android device anymore

Is the WIN that much better in performance compared with an XD? Doe sit run Saturn better?
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: nmkd on May 14, 2017, 09:40:01 am
I can understand a GPD XD2 within 2-3 years... but say GPD releases it sooner, what good is that gonna do for anyone? Really? XD already plays up to Dreamcast era near flawlessly... ya, there's the Wii/GC/ps2... but ps2 is still a long way off till it gets perfected.

idk, if I were GPD, I definitely wouldn't see a need to push the envelope so soon so fast... not entirely necessary unless I'm missing something.
PSP and Saturn would be improved I guess. But probably for people that already have an XD won't need a XD 2. I personally with a GPd win don't need an android device anymore

Is the WIN that much better in performance compared with an XD? Doe sit run Saturn better?
Of course, the Win is much stronger.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Phawx on May 15, 2017, 03:05:03 pm
Not always, only gpd win and pocket were in indiegogo. I think until 2018 won't be released, but not sure.

初步的构想图 ;)
Lots of people would buy it if you add phone capabilities (call, SMS, 3g, 4g, GPS, etc...) including myself.

I can clearly see the successor of the Xperia play

Yea, I'd but this if it were able to operate as a phone as well.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on May 15, 2017, 03:23:54 pm
Persoannly I think it needs something to give it that x factor to buy.  phone capabilities might be it.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on May 15, 2017, 03:26:35 pm
I agree, but they would need to change SoC for another mtk for phones.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Phawx on May 15, 2017, 03:44:09 pm
I agree, but they would need to change SoC for another mtk for phones.

C'est la vie.

As it is right now, the only gaming-phone that I'm looking forward to is the MotoZ2 with MotoMod.

The design of the XD2 with the power button on the side looks like it could be used as a phone as well :(
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on May 15, 2017, 04:15:32 pm
I agree, but they would need to change SoC for another mtk for phones.

C'est la vie.

As it is right now, the only gaming-phone that I'm looking forward to is the MotoZ2 with MotoMod.

The design of the XD2 with the power button on the side looks like it could be used as a phone as well :(

I personally don't need a gaming phone, unless they would made something very small like xperia play. But certainly a gaming phone would be more sales for GPD than just another tablet. Although I made a poll regarding that subject and target was very divided. But who knows, maybe they are still in time to change it for an helio chipset (if they decide to go for the mediatek route). But I have the feeling they won't change their minds.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Phawx on May 15, 2017, 04:57:05 pm
I agree, but they would need to change SoC for another mtk for phones.

C'est la vie.

As it is right now, the only gaming-phone that I'm looking forward to is the MotoZ2 with MotoMod.

The design of the XD2 with the power button on the side looks like it could be used as a phone as well :(

I personally don't need a gaming phone, unless they would made something very small like xperia play. But certainly a gaming phone would be more sales for GPD than just another tablet. Although I made a poll regarding that subject and target was very divided. But who knows, maybe they are still in time to change it for an helio chipset (if they decide to go for the mediatek route). But I have the feeling they won't change their minds.

I've been waiting for a proper successor to the Xperia Play for so long, it seems like it won't happen at this point.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on May 16, 2017, 01:55:45 am
Phone capabilities aside, I think they should change the SOC.  The one they selected is ok, but to me, very mehh

I remember Skelton's poll, a lot of people didn't want a gaming phone.  That said, I don't think it would put them off unless it was way more expensive
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on May 16, 2017, 09:38:40 am
Phone capabilities aside, I think they should change the SOC.  The one they selected is ok, but to me, very mehh

I remember Skelton's poll, a lot of people didn't want a gaming phone.  That said, I don't think it would put them off unless it was way more expensive
The soc is pretty similar in performance to the rk3399 they had in mind. An hexa Core with two a72 cores. If they cannot use snapdragon there are no many choice i guess, except another mtk a little more powerful, like helio x27 or so, but I suppose It would be more expensive perhaps.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on May 16, 2017, 12:52:47 pm
Phone capabilities aside, I think they should change the SOC.  The one they selected is ok, but to me, very mehh

I remember Skelton's poll, a lot of people didn't want a gaming phone.  That said, I don't think it would put them off unless it was way more expensive
The soc is pretty similar in performance to the rk3399 they had in mind. An hexa Core with two a72 cores. If they cannot use snapdragon there are no many choice i guess, except another mtk a little more powerful, like helio x27 or so, but I suppose It would be more expensive perhaps.

I was hoping that they would use the Helio x30 as we discussed previously.  But I guess the bigger aspect will be if they make it double as a smart phone.  That will be enough of an X factor to attract some decent sales
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on May 16, 2017, 01:08:50 pm
Phone capabilities aside, I think they should change the SOC.  The one they selected is ok, but to me, very mehh

I remember Skelton's poll, a lot of people didn't want a gaming phone.  That said, I don't think it would put them off unless it was way more expensive
The soc is pretty similar in performance to the rk3399 they had in mind. An hexa Core with two a72 cores. If they cannot use snapdragon there are no many choice i guess, except another mtk a little more powerful, like helio x27 or so, but I suppose It would be more expensive perhaps.

I was hoping that they would use the Helio x30 as we discussed previously.  But I guess the bigger aspect will be if they make it double as a smart phone.  That will be enough of an X factor to attract some decent sales
the helio x30 has been a Big failure. Most chinese manufacturers are not even using It. Maybe because of price, but not sure. The mtk gpd is gonna use have better single Core performance than tegra k1 for instance, which is nice for emus. GPU is just decent, not very different to the mali 760 of current gpd xd. I think they don't want to make device as the same price of gpd win, but most probably something similar in price to current xd, for people that just use retro emus at a decent price. Dolphin was gonna be out of the question anyway with a mtk chip, because mtk has not udpated their GPU userpsace libraries for vulkan.

I also would like a better SoC, don't minsundertand me, but I understand GPD doesn't want to release an android device at 300 or 400 bucks, when you can get a WIN at that price.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: DETahaX on May 16, 2017, 05:31:56 pm
Ummm.. Hey, guys?.. I know most of you seem to like the new form factor which is the sideslip.. But.. Do we really want a successor to the Xperia Play.. Or PSP Go.. Or whatever it it's called?..... I put 4 attachments on this post of an old XD2 concept.. They seem to me a whole lot better. Simply because it has a 360 degree hinge and not a sliding mechanism. It has its benefit too you know.. Not only can it show you only the screen up in front (without the controls), but it can also hide the screen protecting it from getting scratched, you can also have nearly unlimited adjustment to the screen angle (unlike the sideslip)...

That was my biggest complaint and I also wanted to know if you guys agree on what I had to say. But another thing I wanted to talk about is, I don't want calling capabilities, I already got a phone for that. I'm a gamer but besides that I don't want to pay extra for something I'm not gonna use. Instead, I'd love to pay extra for performance. I don't think it'd be bad to have the XD2 have the same chip as the Win. It wouldn't make it as expensive as the Win because there won't be a keyboard and what not, but maybe it could get Dolphin to run way more smoother, Dolphin runs surprisingly amazing on the Win. I know the Win has Windows, but I'd like one nearly as powerful (or maybe a bit more :P) Android version of it... Oh and @Wane .. Please put 5.0Hz bandwidth WiFi and don't forget the Bluetooth! Oh, and if you can, please make a better firmware/UI/OS version of Android than the one on the old XD! Thank you! ;)
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on May 16, 2017, 07:29:31 pm

If you want dolphin on Android you need tegra x1 or snapdragon 835.  They seem to have decided another design.so I doubt they use clamshell again. I would personally prefer GPD G5a design more, new design can be nice too. Let's see.
Also, what's the problem with the firmware in the first XD? It's very stable and emus runs fine, which is what the device is made for. If you mean to be stuck at android Kitkat is a wise decision, because RK3288 devices work worse at higher than kitkat because of GPU drivers by Rockchip. The XD 2 will use android nougat I guess, but for gaming the android OS is pretty much the same, it's more important to have a good kernel than a specfic version of android.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on May 16, 2017, 11:58:44 pm
@skelton

Yeah, I don't think a chinese SOC would be expensive, they all tend to be cheaply priced.   You can see the X25 in devices that are $189 -> http://www.geekbuying.com/item/LeTV-LeEco-Le-2-Pro-X625-4GB-32GB-Smartphone---Rose-Gold-369625.html .  At most, I think a X25 or X30 would add $20 tops

The biggest expense would be adding LTE for sure.  But , that could be an option ie have a model with and without it


@DETahaX

This thread started with discussing that 360 degree hinge concept.  I think GPD ditched it becuase they couldn't work out how to make the hinge robust enough.  Or something like that, I have a vague memory of reading something like that on their chinese forum.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on May 17, 2017, 09:55:16 am
@skelton

Yeah, I don't think a chinese SOC would be expensive, they all tend to be cheaply priced.   You can see the X25 in devices that are $189 -> http://www.geekbuying.com/item/LeTV-LeEco-Le-2-Pro-X625-4GB-32GB-Smartphone---Rose-Gold-369625.html .  At most, I think a X25 or X30 would add $20 tops

Have in mind leeco is like Xiaomi or oppo, one of the biggest brands  un china and they possibly buy Too Many chips to get that price. Not sure how many chips gpd can buy ti get that price.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: spearmint on May 17, 2017, 10:39:07 am
If it's a phone, I definitely won't buy it. I don't need another phone. I don't need worse battery life. I also don't want to associate my phone (which I also sometimes use in a professional setting etc.) with a gaming device.

If I wanted a device that does everything I'd just play games on my desktop. The entire point is a portable gaming device.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on May 17, 2017, 10:40:54 am
If it's a phone, I definitely won't buy it. I don't need another phone. I don't need worse battery life. I also don't want to associate my phone (which I also sometimes use in a professional setting etc.) with a gaming device.

If I wanted a device that does everything I'd just play games on my desktop/laptop. The entire point is a portable (retro-)gaming device.

It's not gonna be a phone, but a tablet.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on May 17, 2017, 10:53:03 am
If it's a phone, I definitely won't buy it. I don't need another phone. I don't need worse battery life. I also don't want to associate my phone (which I also sometimes use in a professional setting etc.) with a gaming device.

If I wanted a device that does everything I'd just play games on my desktop/laptop. The entire point is a portable (retro-)gaming device.

It's not gonna be a phone, but a tablet.

Now I'm confused.  I thought they were considering making it basically another Xperia Play , but with real controls.  ie a gaming smart phone. What makes you say tablet?
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on May 17, 2017, 11:04:08 am
If it's a phone, I definitely won't buy it. I don't need another phone. I don't need worse battery life. I also don't want to associate my phone (which I also sometimes use in a professional setting etc.) with a gaming device.

If I wanted a device that does everything I'd just play games on my desktop/laptop. The entire point is a portable (retro-)gaming device.

It's not gonna be a phone, but a tablet.

Now I'm confused.  I thought they were considering making it basically another Xperia Play , but with real controls.  ie a gaming smart phone. What makes you say tablet?

Xperia Play in terms of sliding controls (or PSP GO). I say tablet because the SoC they have chosen is a tablet one, not a phone one. The MT8176 is only used in MTK tablets. Xiaomi is using it in their MiPAd3 tablet indeed. Wadw also saud that there were no phone capabilities. That's why I say that if people want a gaming phone GPD should change the SoC for an helio one.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on May 17, 2017, 11:07:28 am
If it's a phone, I definitely won't buy it. I don't need another phone. I don't need worse battery life. I also don't want to associate my phone (which I also sometimes use in a professional setting etc.) with a gaming device.

If I wanted a device that does everything I'd just play games on my desktop/laptop. The entire point is a portable (retro-)gaming device.

It's not gonna be a phone, but a tablet.

Now I'm confused.  I thought they were considering making it basically another Xperia Play , but with real controls.  ie a gaming smart phone. What makes you say tablet?

Xperia Play in terms of sliding controls (or PSP GO). I say tablet because the SoC they have chosen is a tablet one, not a phone one. The MT8176 is only used in MTK tablets. Xiaomi is using it in their MiPAd3 tablet indeed. Wadw also saud that there were no phone capabilities. That's why I say that if people want a gaming phone GPD should change the SoC for an helio one.

But remember the article where they interviewed  GPD at their Japan IT week booth .  It said they were thinking of adding LTE. https://tobalog.com/2017/05/gpd-win-2/

"However, it said that it plans to install a SIM card slot for LTE compatibility for successor models of "GPD XD", "
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on May 17, 2017, 11:15:14 am
There are MTK tablets with LTE support, but only for data, that doesn't mean phone calls, Basically for having internet if you don't find a wifi hotspot. The MT8176 doesn't allow phone calls, just sim card to have data connection.

The specs at MTK website doesn't show phone capablities.
https://www.mediatek.com/products/tablets/mt8176

I think that in order to have a full phone they need to change SoC, if not I don't think is possible with a tablet SoC, unless they use this one:
https://www.mediatek.com/products/tablets/mt8785

or this one:

https://www.mediatek.com/products/tablets/mt8735d

But they told thet were using 8176. Maybe @wade can clarify the SoC is actually used.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on May 17, 2017, 11:23:03 am
There are MTK tablets with LTE support, but only for data, that doesn't mean phone calls, Basically for having internet if you don't find a wifi hotspot. The MT8176 doesn't allow phone calls, just sim card to have data connection.

The specs at MTK website doesn't show phone capablities.
https://www.mediatek.com/products/tablets/mt8176

I think that in order to have a full phone they need to change SoC, if not I don't think is possible with a tablet SoC, unless they use this one:
https://www.mediatek.com/products/tablets/mt8785

That would make absolute zero sense to have a device that looked like a phone (when closed), had a smartphone OS, had LTE. but didn't let you make calls. That would be retarded.  Even I wouldn't want that.   

I can't imagine that's what they are planning.

Just a side note, the specs indicate the SOC doesnt have LTE embedded ,   it doesn;t mean they can't use a seperate LTE chip.  Which they would have to if that's the SOC they want to use and they also plan LTE.  It's probably another reason to use one of the other Helio chips though, as they would probably be cheaper than having to buy the SOC and a separate LTE chip.  Unless of course they plan on having two models , one with and one without LTE - which is a possibility
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on May 17, 2017, 11:27:35 am
There are many tablets with Sim CARD support for data, just for using internet where there is no wifi. The Shield tablet has a LTE model for example. Or some Samsung ones. Both with Android. Anyhow, for me I would prefer the lower price as possible, since I don't need another phone. I prefer just a gaming device too, unless they did it very small, but they said it was 6 inch, so....
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on May 17, 2017, 11:31:19 am
There are many tablets with Sim CARD support for data, just for using internet where there is no wifi. The Shield tablet has a LTE model for example. Or some Samsung ones. Both with Android.

Yes, but they are tablets, ie not exactly the form factor people want to make calls with .   The XD2 concept is a phone form factor. Also, those tablets tend to lock out call functionality or should I say exclude it - in SW - not HW. At least that is my understanding.

And that is my point, if they did that, then you would be paying for a phone form factor, paying for HW needed for calls.  But then not having the ability to make calls.  That would make no sense.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on May 17, 2017, 11:35:27 am
There are many tablets with Sim CARD support for data, just for using internet where there is no wifi. The Shield tablet has a LTE model for example. Or some Samsung ones. Both with Android.

Yes, but they are tablets, ie not exactly the form factor people want to make calls with .   The XD2 concept is a phone form factor. Also, those tablets tend to lock out call functionality or should I say exclude it - in SW - not HW

Well, a 6 inch is a huge phone form factor, more a phablet. I consider it most a small tablet than a phone. Anyhow, maybe @wade can clarify it the final specs and capabilities. I personally have doubt about sliding controls. I don't hope good analogs in that form factor. I personally prefer no LTE and no phone, it would be cheaper and I was not going to use LTE or phone capabilities in a 6 inch phone.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on May 17, 2017, 11:41:29 am
There are many tablets with Sim CARD support for data, just for using internet where there is no wifi. The Shield tablet has a LTE model for example. Or some Samsung ones. Both with Android.

Yes, but they are tablets, ie not exactly the form factor people want to make calls with .   The XD2 concept is a phone form factor. Also, those tablets tend to lock out call functionality or should I say exclude it - in SW - not HW

Well, a 6 inch is a huge phone form factor, more a phablet. I consider it most a small tablet than a phone. Anyhow, maybe @wade can clarify it the final specs and capabilities. I personally have doubt about sliding controls. I don't hope good analogs in that form factor.

Hmmm, didn't think about the controls.  I wonder if they could fit low profile sticks in a slider design .   Otherwise , yeah, it could mean nubs
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on May 17, 2017, 11:54:44 am
Maybe smaller nubs in the line of 3ds or so.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on May 17, 2017, 12:08:29 pm
Yeah, it would be nice to know more from wade.  A lot of questions at the moment.

By the way, I do think a 6" device is still a phone and not a tablet.  After all the two most popular phones in the world both have have 5.5" screen the iPhone 7+ and the Samsing Galaxy S8 - 5.8" screen.  I don't think 0.2" bigger screen over the most popular phone makes it a tablet all of a sudden.  That is just my opinion thoguh, I now there are some that think  current phones are too big.  Sign of the times I guess.  Maybe one day, a 24" screen will be a standard size phone :P
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: dreamesper on May 17, 2017, 12:15:29 pm
I would think that the mentality of having a slide-out keyboard like the PSP GO is a brilliant idea for the XD2. It's there if you want to use it or not, etc.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: DETahaX on May 17, 2017, 01:16:40 pm

If you want dolphin on Android you need tegra x1 or snapdragon 835.  They seem to have decided another design.so I doubt they use clamshell again. I would personally prefer GPD G5a design more, new design can be nice too. Let's see.
Also, what's the problem with the firmware in the first XD? It's very stable and emus runs fine, which is what the device is made for. If you mean to be stuck at android Kitkat is a wise decision, because RK3288 devices work worse at higher than kitkat because of GPU drivers by Rockchip. The XD 2 will use android nougat I guess, but for gaming the android OS is pretty much the same, it's more important to have a good kernel than a specfic version of android.

G5A???... I'm sorry but, yuck! It looks like an ugly ripoff of the Nintendo Switch.. And I don't see what's wrong with a clamshell design.. It worked splendidly with the DS, DSi, 3DS, New 3DS, the first XD, and now the New 2DS XL (which looks fantastic BTW). Seriously the concept pics are 10 times more practical.. Anyway... What I mean by changing the software, I mean both the Android version and the UI. Don't get me wrong, the they both work fantastic. But we need updated software, by that I mean we need to have the near latest Android version. And the UI is very functional, but it needs a better looking design (colored squares don't look that good). And about dolphin, I know that it doesn't run well on Android except for the two chips you mentioned.. I do wanna know how Dolphin runs very well on the Win though.. Is it because of the Chip, is it because of Windows? I don't know... But even thought Dolphin doesn't run at full speed, I take it as performance measurement. If the XD2 can pull off half or more normal speed, I'll be really happy with it. Because of course, no one (especially gamers) is gonna be happy with low performance.

Oh, and regarding that the people who already bought the first XD. Yes, they will buy the XD2, why? Because they love it, they loved the XD very much. But they all (even me) think that it's missing very important/essential things (such as BT and better WiFi), and a little more performance (for maybe PPSSPP and Dreamcast to run well at least).

But man! *-* just imagine tilting the XD on Mario Kart Wii to drive.... I'd be Amazing!
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: DETahaX on May 17, 2017, 01:24:29 pm
I would think that the mentality of having a slide-out keyboard like the PSP GO is a brilliant idea for the XD2. It's there if you want to use it or not, etc.

Let me tell yea.. I just made this account, just so I can talk in this thread (and see Wade's pics because it wouldn't let me).. But the biggest I waned to talk about on this thread is the slid mechanism. I think it's very terrible! ??? They could break easily and make me fell very worried. Not to mention it'll give you less freedom. The solution: the old concept pics with the 360 degree hinge. Just go to page 24 and see my post/comment.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on May 17, 2017, 01:39:52 pm
Have you used a g5a? Because the g5a and the Switch are completely different devices. G5a was very ergonomic and had great analogs and better shoulder buttons in comparison to XD. Also, it has clickable analogs rather than separate l3 and r3 buttons. DPAD was pretty bad though and should have been improved. I don't have a problem with XD design either, I like clamshell too, so no problems if they have decided to do another clamshell. Anyhow, GPD seems to have taken a different route for XD 2, so no clamshell, just sliding controls like PSP Go which I don't know how good will be. It needs to be very well built or can be a disaster.
Dolphin works quite well in the GPD win because of dx12 video backend and Ishiruka builds, if not would be unplayable. In Android it needs Vulkan to get good speeds and is less accurate than windows version, because only two people work in the Android version, It needs something like a snapdragon 835 or tegra x1 to run decently for GC games, most wii games are still slow. So considering that XD 2 will use a MTK chipset, forget about dolphin, because it won't be playable, except maybe a couple of games non too demanding. In GPD WIN takes advantage of windows and dx12 backend, but not all GC titles are fullspeed (F-Zero to say just one), and many wii titles are slow too in GPD WIN. I am not a fan of ninty games or GC/WII titles except fire emblem saga, so I don't use Dolphin too much in GPD WIN anyway.

The current XD runs Dreamcast very well in terms of speed, reicast is not too demanding. Itas has video glitches but are not XD exclusive. Reicast is quiye abandonned and needs a lot of work anyway. PPSSPP runs very good except a few titles, but easily 75 percent of games run fullspeed in current XD (with 1,8 ghz firmware and some tweaking). In fact my shield tablet which is more powerful runs pretty much the same PPSSPP titles. PPSSPP is also not fullspeed in all titles in GPD WIN by the way, in spite of the fact that windows version is more optimized than android version.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Faust on May 17, 2017, 02:15:45 pm
I would think that the mentality of having a slide-out keyboard like the PSP GO is a brilliant idea for the XD2. It's there if you want to use it or not, etc.

Let me tell yea.. I just made this account, just so I can talk in this thread (and see Wade's pics because it wouldn't let me).. But the biggest I waned to talk about on this thread is the slid mechanism. I think it's very terrible! ??? They could break easily and make me fell very worried. Not to mention it'll give you less freedom. The solution: the old concept pics with the 360 degree hinge. Just go to page 24 and see my post/comment.
I think GPD changes the style for the GPD XD 2 to make two really different products.

Right now we have two gaming consoles with the same design, almost the same control, that aim almost the same peoples, they only changes are the keyboard, and the OS.

It would be easier to target different peoples if you make two products with big differences.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on May 17, 2017, 02:16:00 pm
I think a clamshell has it's benefits.  It does provide protection for the screen when closed.   

But as I mentioned before, from memory, there was a reason they ditched the 360 degree hinge.  I think it had something to do with difficulty in making a robust enough 360 degree hinge, so they ditched the design.   It would have also been a little uncomfortable to use to play touch games.  As the controls would then be in your palm when the screen was rotated.  They still wanted to allow users to play touch games, so the only other form factor left to allow that was a slider


Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on May 17, 2017, 02:17:31 pm
I would think that the mentality of having a slide-out keyboard like the PSP GO is a brilliant idea for the XD2. It's there if you want to use it or not, etc.

Let me tell yea.. I just made this account, just so I can talk in this thread (and see Wade's pics because it wouldn't let me).. But the biggest I waned to talk about on this thread is the slid mechanism. I think it's very terrible! ??? They could break easily and make me fell very worried. Not to mention it'll give you less freedom. The solution: the old concept pics with the 360 degree hinge. Just go to page 24 and see my post/comment.
I think GPD changes the style for the GPD XD 2 to make two really different products.

Right now we have two gaming consoles with the same design, almost the same control, that aim almost the same peoples, they only changes are the keyboard, and the OS.

It would be easier to target different peoples if you make two products with big differences.
I agree, xd 2 looks for different target so probably they wanted to do something different from win or xd.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: DETahaX on May 17, 2017, 06:29:26 pm
I would think that the mentality of having a slide-out keyboard like the PSP GO is a brilliant idea for the XD2. It's there if you want to use it or not, etc.

Let me tell yea.. I just made this account, just so I can talk in this thread (and see Wade's pics because it wouldn't let me).. But the biggest I waned to talk about on this thread is the slid mechanism. I think it's very terrible! ??? They could break easily and make me fell very worried. Not to mention it'll give you less freedom. The solution: the old concept pics with the 360 degree hinge. Just go to page 24 and see my post/comment.
I think GPD changes the style for the GPD XD 2 to make two really different products.

Right now we have two gaming consoles with the same design, almost the same control, that aim almost the same peoples, they only changes are the keyboard, and the OS.

It would be easier to target different peoples if you make two products with big differences.
I agree, xd 2 looks for different target so probably they wanted to do something different from win or xd.

I'm sorry, but I cannot agree.. Why would they even call it the XD2? It should have a different name then if that were the case. Super Mario Galaxy 2 is called that because it's an extended version or a better version of the game over the first one, it's not a completely different game. Other wise it'd be called Sunshine, 3D Land, 3D World, but NOT Galaxy 2 . @vcoleiro1 's explanation makes more sense. Though.. I do want proof please..
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on May 17, 2017, 06:32:44 pm
Well, we don't even know if it will be called XD 2 or GPD whatever. We are calling it that way to refer to the successor of the XD (or their new android device if you prefer that term), but we don't know which name will have until GPD shows more info. There is no official name yet as far as I know. Name is not so important, what seems clear is that GPD is looking to make something different to XD or Win in terms of form factor, probably to make a distincition ftom those two. We can like it or not, but if they have decided another design I don't think we can do anything.
The same with the SoC, I wouldn't like MTK, because it's very closed source and not so good for external development or custom roms, but it seems they don't have much choices at lower price.
Anyhow, unless device is ultra cheap and have source code to make custom roms, I don't think I get a new android device for emulation. GPD WIN fits my needs or the next WIN 2 if it's not too expensive. In fact I think GPD should release this new device at an affordable price (like current XD o so), because if it's more expensive the GPD WIN is a better choice (for emulation, and also for general gaming, because there is no comparison between android games and windows ones)
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: DETahaX on May 17, 2017, 06:44:27 pm

It would have also been a little uncomfortable to use to play touch games.  As the controls would then be in your palm when the screen was rotated.  They still wanted to allow users to play touch games, so the only other form factor left to allow that was a slider

Dude.. The controls are not needles... (At least I hope they're not lol).. The only problem that can easily be fixed is, if they were still active. That can be fixed by just adding a small sensor to know if the hinge was full rotated. So, now you can have the screen all to yourself just as you would of had it when it's closed in the sideslip form.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: DETahaX on May 17, 2017, 07:20:22 pm
Well, we don't even know if it will be called XD 2 or GPD whatever. We are calling it that way to refer to the successor of the XD (or their new android device if you prefer that term), but we don't know which name will have until GPD shows more info. There is no official name yet as far as I know. Name is not so important, what seems clear is that GPD is looking to make something different to XD or Win in terms of form factor, probably to make a distincition ftom those two. We can like it or not, but if they have decided another design I don't think we can do anything.
The same with the SoC, I wouldn't like MTK, because it's very closed source and not so good for external development or custom roms, but it seems they don't have much choices at lower price.
Anyhow, unless device is ultra cheap and have source code to make custom roms, I don't think I get a new android device for emulation. GPD WIN fits my needs or the next WIN 2 if it's not too expensive. In fact I think GPD should release this new device at an affordable price (like current XD o so), because if it's more expensive the GPD WIN is a better choice (for emulation, and also for general gaming, because there is no comparison between android games and windows ones)

I agree with every word you've just said. Only thing is.. Wade gave us the pic while naming it "XD2".. So it's very likely to have that name...... Only time will tell...............
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on May 17, 2017, 07:31:32 pm
Maybe it's the project name, but who knows. I suppose we will have more info soon.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Phawx on May 17, 2017, 09:13:30 pm
reading the last few pages of this and if the XD2 *is* a phone, I will be HYPED.

@wade can you let us know if XD2 will be a phone or not?  And if so, will it be international LTE?
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on May 17, 2017, 11:57:27 pm
@DETahaX

While I can't point out specific posts and threads since this all goes back well over a year now.  This is the story as I remember it

1)  GPD had an idea to release an XD MAX, it was to be a larger 7" screen version of the current XD with the same internals.   It was effectively the XL version of the XD.

2)  Chinese users didn't want it, instead they wanted an updated XD with a newer and better SOC, they wnated a XD2.

3)  They also pointed out the need to play touch games on the device, makes sense as most Android games are touch based and a standard clamshell doesn't really allow you to play them

4)  GPD Ditched the XD MAX and came up with plans for the XD2 with 6" screen , the plan was the 360 degree hinged XD2 design this thread was started to discuss.  At one point they had plans to have four joysticks in it to allow them to use them in MOBA games as multi function buttons - yes you heard that right. The extra joysticks were later ditched.

5)  After fluffing around for over a year and having launched the WIN in that time, they thought about not releasing a XD2.  They also had difficulties with the 360 degree design in terms of coming up with a robust solution for it.

6)  They ditched the 360 degree hinge for the reason above and came up now with the slider deisgn with talk of it also having LTE.


Here is the thread from over a year ago when they ditched the XD Max idea and started talkign about a XD2

Thread title: "In view of a lot of people against XD Max, the program will be changed to XD2, upgrade the master chip"
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/4325182146



Side note - my rambling about LTE:

1)  Remember LTE can be turned off, if you don't want it.   

2)  Also, they may launch  two models, one with and one without LTE.  This is pretty normal to do this these days.  I suppose we will have to wait on Wade toi clarify plans on LTE/ phone capabilites etc

3)  Remember in terms of selling as many as possible, which market is bigger - the handheld Android console market or the smartphone market.   What if you had a android gaming handheld with an edge which was also being a smartphone.   What I'm saying is that doubling as a smartphone may give it a big sales boost.   To date they have sold about 60K XDs ,  a dual Gaming handheld / smartphone could see sales topped that.   It attracts two markets - one of which is huge, it also has that unique x factor of being both things.   
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: DETahaX on May 18, 2017, 06:32:26 am
@vcoleiro1

Thank you for the effort and details you've put into your reply. Though.. in my opinion I still think they didn't think hard enough to make the 360 hinge work. 4 Joysticks!?..... GPD must be high on something. 😂.. But 4gb of Ram is not bad..
About LTE though.. They better make two versions if they go with the idea. Because gamers like me don't wanna pay extra for something they're not gonna use.. We already have phones, we need an upgraded handheld of the XD with more power (and missing features like BT.. Seriously, who ever told them not to put BT in the XD should get fired) and maybe an even better build quality.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Phawx on May 18, 2017, 03:06:32 pm
@vcoleiro1

Thank you for the effort and details you've put into your reply. Though.. in my opinion I still think they didn't think hard enough to make the 360 hinge work. 4 Joysticks!?..... GPD must be high on something. 😂.. But 4gb of Ram is not bad..
About LTE though.. They better make two versions if they go with the idea. Because gamers like me don't wanna pay extra for something they're not gonna use..We already have phones, we need an upgraded handheld of the XD with more power (and missing features like BT.. Seriously, who ever told them not to put BT in the XD should get fired) and maybe an even better build quality.

I'm just saying these things as an example.  It's not abrasive.

Do you have multiple different devices for specific uses?  Do you have a small music player, because why put that on a phone?  Do you carry around a calculator, because why put that on a phone?  Do you carry around a flash light, because why put that on a phone?  Do you carry around a camera because why put that on a phone?

Having one device that can do everything and fit in your pocket without having to carry a backpack is amazing.  Right now I have a Galaxy S7 because it's decently fast and the camera is quite good.  If I could get an updated Xperia Play type device, that would be heaven.

Also, one of *the* best reasons for a gaming phone is, if you are playing a game and you get a text message or a phone call, you don't have to close the handheld and put it or away, or worse put it down awkwardly somewhere while you reach for you phone.  Just being able to have your headphones plugged into a gaming phone and not have to shuffle around a bunch of stuff is SO liberating.

Hell, if there is an LTE only version with no voice, I might fudge it and use VOIP applications to complete calls.  I mostly just use data on my phone as it is.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: nmkd on May 18, 2017, 03:08:00 pm
If it's a phone, I definitely won't buy it. I don't need another phone. I don't need worse battery life. I also don't want to associate my phone (which I also sometimes use in a professional setting etc.) with a gaming device.

If I wanted a device that does everything I'd just play games on my desktop. The entire point is a portable gaming device.
Why?

There is literally no battery life difference if you just keep airplane mode always enabled.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: DETahaX on May 18, 2017, 10:41:00 pm

I'm just saying these things as an example.  It's not abrasive.

Do you have multiple different devices for specific uses?  Do you have a small music player, because why put that on a phone?  Do you carry around a calculator, because why put that on a phone?  Do you carry around a flash light, because why put that on a phone?  Do you carry around a camera because why put that on a phone?

Having one device that can do everything and fit in your pocket without having to carry a backpack is amazing.  Right now I have a Galaxy S7 because it's decently fast and the camera is quite good.  If I could get an updated Xperia Play type device, that would be heaven.

Also, one of *the* best reasons for a gaming phone is, if you are playing a game and you get a text message or a phone call, you don't have to close the handheld and put it or away, or worse put it down awkwardly somewhere while you reach for you phone.  Just being able to have your headphones plugged into a gaming phone and not have to shuffle around a bunch of stuff is SO liberating.

Hell, if there is an LTE only version with no voice, I might fudge it and use VOIP applications to complete calls.  I mostly just use data on my phone as it is.

First.. Abrasive?.. Too cool to use more popular words?  :-\
Second, ha freakin' ha!
Sure, things such as a camera, flash, or a speaker were not initially on a calling device at first.. But yeah, why have a closet? Why, you can have it in your phone. Why have a refrigerator? You can have that in your phone too. Why have a bed if your phone can be just that? Need a kitchen sink? Don't worry, your phone got that! It can play Xbox ⅓, PS6?, U Mii Thay, and 3000XDS games! Why, it's even a wide screen TV! So you can play anything you want, when ever you want! Who needs a Nintendo Switch anymore. Why bother buying a house, your phone is an all purpose, it can be everything!.. As for the price, it only costs 1 human heart!......................... -.-

............. Oh wait.. It's not a phone. It's a handheld gaming device! O.O ..................


Dude..... I'm sorry.. I was a bit too harsh.. But seriously, this is just a gaming device, people don't wanna spend more on something they're not gonna use.. You said it yourself, you already have the S7, and you more than likely don't need to use more than one phone number.. So what are you gonna do with the calling capabilities on the handheld?.. Look.. I have an S4, it has a light sensor (and a bunch of other sensors too), but do I use it? Do I need it?.. No, not really, it just made the phone more expensive. What's the good in having internet (or anything) if you're not using it? The device doesn't need to be an all purpose. We just want a fairly powerful cheap handheld with good build quality..
Also.. you're 'phone call taking' example doesn't hold water... at all!.. I can give you the same example with a different approach. Behold! 😂:

One of *the* best reasons for NOT having a gaming phone is.. if you are playing a game and you get a text message or a phone call, you don't have to get annoying pop-up messages or game disturbing/pausing experiences! With how far technology has amazingly grown, you can take or make phone calls by voice commands! So you don't have to close the handheld or put it away, or worse put it down awkwardly somewhere while you reach for you phone (because you already accepted your call with your own voice). Playing on your gaming device and taking a call at the same time is AMAZING. Just being able to not have to die on the MMX6 Final Sigma Stage because you just got a call on your gaming screen from your cousin's uncle just calling to ask you where his TV remote SO liberating!

Besides... What's so bad about pausing your game and checking your phone for just a second anyway? It's not the end of the world you know, AND it sure won't take you the whole day just to get make to what you were doing..
Conclusion.. Why waste human resources on things they won't be used for....
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on May 19, 2017, 12:39:16 am
Well, I think it's fair to say that like with anything, there are those that wnat it, and those that dont. 

Probably not worth arguing about until we hear more about GPD's plans.  It could be they offer the XD2 with and without LTE so that everyone is happy. 
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: siegel17701 on May 19, 2017, 01:44:26 am
I still want to make phone calls on my PS Vita.

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Phawx on May 19, 2017, 04:27:29 pm
Well, I think it's fair to say that like with anything, there are those that wnat it, and those that dont. 

Probably not worth arguing about until we hear more about GPD's plans.  It could be they offer the XD2 with and without LTE so that everyone is happy.

Agreed. 

Right now, the only gaming phone that I can potentially look forward to is the new Moto Z with the official moto gamepad mod.  It's not as sweet as having a slide out mechanism, but it has great modern specs, latest stock android and a pretty decent camera.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: AVahne on May 26, 2017, 04:55:03 am
Been off Android gaming ever since I got my Win, and thought I wouldn't need Android gaming anymore, but I'm sort of starting to miss it. My Shield is really growing long in the tooth, so I'd like a replacement soon. Hopefully XD2 isn't TOO far off, though I also hope whatever SoC they choose would be a sizable leap over the Tegra 4. Then again, any Chinese SoC they use would probably just be using one of the way older, meh-er ARM Mali GPUs...
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on May 26, 2017, 09:08:08 am
Been off Android gaming ever since I got my Win, and thought I wouldn't need Android gaming anymore, but I'm sort of starting to miss it. My Shield is really growing long in the tooth, so I'd like a replacement soon. Hopefully XD2 isn't TOO far off, though I also hope whatever SoC they choose would be a sizable leap over the Tegra 4. Then again, any Chinese SoC they use would probably just be using one of the way older, meh-er ARM Mali GPUs...
The current xd performs similar to shield portable. A bit better in some emus like uoyabause which is unplayable in the shield. Xd2 Will use a mtk mid range with a cortex a72 and power vr GPU. For emulation should be enough.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Sousaptak on May 26, 2017, 09:23:12 am
just an honest view... since snapdragon released their 10 NM line up with SD 835. SD 821 ( last year's flagship SOC) will get cheaper... its way more powerful than RK SOC. add 4GB ram and 64GB/128GB EMMC or UFS storage. 7000 mah+ battery and a 6 inch screen... and it will next gaming handheld hotcake.... but I know wade will never do that , as GPD have their own way of doing things and stating this is better, please dont worry !!!!
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on May 26, 2017, 09:34:05 am
just an honest view... since snapdragon released their 10 NM line up with SD 835. SD 821 ( last year's flagship SOC) will get cheaper... its way more powerful than RK SOC. add 4GB ram and 64GB/128GB EMMC or UFS storage. 7000 mah+ battery and a 6 inch screen... and it will next gaming handheld hotcake.... but I know wade will never do that , as GPD have their own way of doing things and stating this is better, please dont worry !!!!
They don't use snapdragon because of price
 Qualcomm demands them to buy Too Many chips to get a decent price. Also, they want to release It at a similar price to current xd, because if they release It at about 350 or so, the GPD win is better device. They are going to use a mtk device according to wade from gpd.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: AVahne on May 27, 2017, 04:26:05 am
The current xd performs similar to shield portable. A bit better in some emus like uoyabause which is unplayable in the shield. Xd2 Will use a mtk mid range with a cortex a72 and power vr GPU. For emulation should be enough.

I'm one of those rare creatures who buy and play on Android devices for actual Android games. I have other things for emulation, like my Pandora, so while I do sometimes emulate on my Android devices it's not a priority or a selling point for me.
That's why I'm more concerned about the GPU than the CPU parts of these SoCs. I prefer having dedicated machines for gaming rather than using my phone for all my games, as storage and battery are limited. My Shield was partly my Avabel machine since it was the only Android device (BT controllers included) I have that has a fully working controller for that game, and I'm just hoping there's enough oomph in the XD2's GPU to run the upcoming Gate of Rebellion and God Eater Online well enough while looking good.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: siegel17701 on June 14, 2017, 10:51:08 pm
The current xd performs similar to shield portable. A bit better in some emus like uoyabause which is unplayable in the shield. Xd2 Will use a mtk mid range with a cortex a72 and power vr GPU. For emulation should be enough.

I'm one of those rare creatures who buy and play on Android devices for actual Android games. I have other things for emulation, like my Pandora, so while I do sometimes emulate on my Android devices it's not a priority or a selling point for me.
That's why I'm more concerned about the GPU than the CPU parts of these SoCs. I prefer having dedicated machines for gaming rather than using my phone for all my games, as storage and battery are limited. My Shield was partly my Avabel machine since it was the only Android device (BT controllers included) I have that has a fully working controller for that game, and I'm just hoping there's enough oomph in the XD2's GPU to run the upcoming Gate of Rebellion and God Eater Online well enough while looking good.
Same here. I play android games. The xd is great, except for touch games, i.e. shadowrun, fallout shelter etc. Some sort of flat screen would be great.

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: jr5rider on June 24, 2017, 09:19:02 pm
The current xd performs similar to shield portable. A bit better in some emus like uoyabause which is unplayable in the shield. Xd2 Will use a mtk mid range with a cortex a72 and power vr GPU. For emulation should be enough.

I'm one of those rare creatures who buy and play on Android devices for actual Android games. I have other things for emulation, like my Pandora, so while I do sometimes emulate on my Android devices it's not a priority or a selling point for me.
That's why I'm more concerned about the GPU than the CPU parts of these SoCs. I prefer having dedicated machines for gaming rather than using my phone for all my games, as storage and battery are limited. My Shield was partly my Avabel machine since it was the only Android device (BT controllers included) I have that has a fully working controller for that game, and I'm just hoping there's enough oomph in the XD2's GPU to run the upcoming Gate of Rebellion and God Eater Online well enough while looking good.
Same here. I play android games. The xd is great, except for touch games, i.e. shadowrun, fallout shelter etc. Some sort of flat screen would be great.

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Also same. I play real racing 3 all the time and the gpd works great as a propped screen while I'm eating dinner. The xd2 with the 360 screen would resolve the touch screen game issues. Fold it back and use it like a tablet.

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: BlazingSoul on June 25, 2017, 06:34:02 pm
Hopefully the XD2 uses the Cortex A73 instead of the A72, since it runs much cooler, even at higher clocks.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on June 25, 2017, 07:48:47 pm
Hopefully the XD2 uses the Cortex A73 instead of the A72, since it runs much cooler, even at higher clocks.
The mtk they chose is a a72,
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: siegel17701 on June 27, 2017, 11:23:11 pm
Hopefully the XD2 uses the Cortex A73 instead of the A72, since it runs much cooler, even at higher clocks.
The mtk they chose is a a72,
CHOSE?!?!?!?

Does that mean it will happen. I need some good news post Smach Z. :(

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: irwannasit on July 06, 2017, 06:02:17 pm
So what's the latest for the Xd2?

Hopefully with possible sim slot.

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on July 06, 2017, 08:16:29 pm
I asked gpd about news but they didn't answer. So Who knows
..
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: tsukasa67 on July 21, 2017, 03:46:33 am
I think above all we need higher quality buttons/D-pad. I honestly cannot understand why they decided to go cheap with them on the XD. The whole point of this thing is the gamepad! Make that the best part of it!
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on July 27, 2017, 11:04:01 am
@wade is there any news regarding GPD XD 2? It's still in development or has been discontinued for some reason?
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Xaijiqq on July 29, 2017, 04:52:22 am
I think above all we need higher quality buttons/D-pad. I honestly cannot understand why they decided to go cheap with them on the XD. The whole point of this thing is the gamepad! Make that the best part of it!
this should be first priority for these devices.  theres gotta be several factors but would it really eat up that much cost and resources to produce quality buttons/dpad?  or is this something that just gets constantly overlooked by the smaller companies?
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: DETahaX on July 31, 2017, 08:02:42 pm
Seriously.. It's been waaaay too quite around here and in general.. I can't find any new news anywhere on the XD2... Isn't there a better website I can keep up with the news on the XD2?
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: siegel17701 on July 31, 2017, 11:27:25 pm
Seriously.. It's been waaaay too quite around here and in general.. I can't find any new news anywhere on the XD2... Isn't there a better website I can keep up with the news on the XD2?
There is no news.

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: AVahne on August 01, 2017, 04:19:28 am
Seriously.. It's been waaaay too quite around here and in general.. I can't find any new news anywhere on the XD2... Isn't there a better website I can keep up with the news on the XD2?

GPD is too busy taking care of matters related to selling the GPD Pocket and the Win and are prioritizing development of the Win 2 over the XD2. You won't be seeing XD2 news for a long time.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: knightron on August 01, 2017, 03:06:18 pm
Seriously.. It's been waaaay too quite around here and in general.. I can't find any new news anywhere on the XD2... Isn't there a better website I can keep up with the news on the XD2?

GPD is too busy taking care of matters related to selling the GPD Pocket and the Win and are prioritizing development of the Win 2 over the XD2. You won't be seeing XD2 news for a long time.

I think the below post pretty much sums up the reasoning.

I think above all we need higher quality buttons/D-pad.


Lets face it, even if GPD made a new XD with the latest and greatest tech, i don't think the performance would be much better to what we already have. I don't know about everyone else but when i think of an upgrade, something that'd be worthy of being called the GPD XD2, i'd expect something more than just a couple of refinements to the chassis and buttons. Yeah i want them things, but those are not worthy upgrades to warrant the title of GPD XD2 which would generate a bunch of hype. With the Windows based GPD machines, there are many improvements and direction that they can take so i'm not surprised that that area of tech is seemingly developing faster than the Android, Arm side of things.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: votemarvel on August 01, 2017, 11:04:58 pm
I'd like to see the specs updated so some of the more recent Android games would run, such as The Walking Dead A New Frontier (I like to have all three on the systems I carry around with me).

There is going to come a point where even the emulator authors want to take advantage of an Android feature that isn't available in KitKat and then we could see updates come to an end.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: tsukasa67 on August 01, 2017, 11:56:20 pm
Lets face it, even if GPD made a new XD with the latest and greatest tech, i don't think the performance would be much better to what we already have.

That's exactly why they need to focus on the physical hardware of the device for the XD 2. I absolutely love my XD, but it looks and feels fairly cheap. If this thing had a kick ass gamepad, screen and build materials I believe it would be immensely popular. Especially if they go with their slider concept, which opens up all of the touch based android games, and more importantly allows the use of the XD 2 as tablet. It already has solid gaming potential, it now just needs to look and feel solid. Obviously a performance boost is also needed that would, at the very minimum, run the newest version of android in order to keep app compatibility high. However to me, just a modest performance upgrade with all of the above met would be more than enough.

But the issue now is price and they won't be able to get these things into a device cheaply for a few years unfortunately.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on August 04, 2017, 02:10:33 pm
I noticed that someone asked Kendy on Facebook abouit the XD2 .  Kendy replied by saying next year
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on September 02, 2017, 01:09:22 am
The new Huawei Kirin 970 SOC looks like it would be great for an XD2

4x ARM Cortex A73 and 4x A53s plus Mali-G72 MP12 graphics.  Also has an NPU (Neural Processing Unit)


https://liliputing.com/2017/09/huawei-unveils-kirin-970-octa-core-chip-neural-processing-unit.html
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on September 02, 2017, 09:39:24 am
I think Huawei don:t sell the kyrin to other companies, or i don't remember other brands using them
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on September 02, 2017, 10:30:05 am
I think Huawei don:t sell the kyrin to other companies, or i don't remember other brands using them

Yeah, I think you might be right.  HiSilicon that is owned by Huawei doesn't seem to have sold them to anyone else that I can see other than Huawei - pity
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: nmkd on September 02, 2017, 11:04:26 am
I think Huawei don:t sell the kyrin to other companies, or i don't remember other brands using them

Yeah, I think you might be right.  HiSilicon that is owned by Huawei doesn't seem to have sold them to anyone else that I can see other than Huawei - pity
Kirin is nothing special, pretty sure that Adreno has better GPU performance anyway.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on September 02, 2017, 11:29:26 am
Yeah, but GPD discarded snapdragon SoC because of price that qualcomm demanded. I suppose they will follow MTK route , but who knows, I wouldn't be surprised even if they cancel it.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: wade on September 04, 2017, 04:41:13 am
xd2 进展不会很快
但是我们近期会对xd1  进行一次小改进优化(具体改进细节,我暂时不能透露,抱歉 ;D)
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: wade on September 04, 2017, 04:42:21 am
Yeah, but GPD discarded snapdragon SoC because of price that qualcomm demanded. I suppose they will follow MTK route , but who knows, I wouldn't be surprised even if they cancel it.

xd2进展不会很快
但是我们近期会对xd1进行一次小改进优化(具体改进细节,我暂时不能透露,抱歉;D)

Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: PsyOps on September 04, 2017, 05:33:49 am
You big tease! We want to know!  :) upgrade android 5.0+ ?  ;D

No no, we understand, but hurry!
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on September 04, 2017, 10:40:16 am
I talked to a gpd dev and it will be New CPU, so a New device similar to xd but running android 7. No idea which CPU, they didn't told me. But firmware will not be compatible with current xd i am afraid, because if it's a New CPU
...

My guess is that maybe the stock of RK3288 is limited and they make just a new GPD XD version with new CPU, to wait until GPD XD 2 is developed. I suppose that also means no more firmware updates for current XD.

@wade can you confirm that? which CPU will use this upgraded GPD XD model?
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: tiagao_extremo on September 04, 2017, 01:05:25 pm
I talked to a gpd dev and it will be New CPU, so a New device similar to xd but running android 7. No idea which CPU, they didn't told me. But firmware will not be compatible with current xd i am afraid, because if it's a New CPU
...

My guess is that maybe the stock of RK3288 is limited and they make just a new GPD XD version with new CPU, to wait until GPD XD 2 is developed. I suppose that also means no more firmware updates for current XD.

@wade can you confirm that? which CPU will use this upgraded GPD XD model?

That would be some terrible news!
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: MOFO on September 04, 2017, 05:00:35 pm
Cmon wade post in English so we can all understand. Can someone translate.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: LordDavon on September 04, 2017, 05:09:15 pm
xd2 progress will not be very fast
But we will soon have a small improvement on xd1 optimization (specific improvements, I can not disclose, sorry ;D)

Via Google Translate
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on September 04, 2017, 05:47:55 pm
And I gave more details some post ago, via GPD dev, so a trust source.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: siegel17701 on September 04, 2017, 08:11:09 pm
And I gave more details some post ago, via GPD dev, so a trust source.
Do you know if they will stick with similar design of the XD1 or go with the flip top/slide design?

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on September 04, 2017, 08:14:07 pm
In theory this is just the same XD with different cpu (no idea which cpu). Supposedly the gpd XD 2 will have the design you mention, but it seems is not gonna be soon.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Illiterate Scholar on September 08, 2017, 07:58:32 am
Please for the love of god, make a good d-pad for the GPD XD2. That's all I ask for. I can't play most of the fighting games due to how mushy the d-pad was in the XD. I want to be able to enjoy SF3 on the go.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on September 08, 2017, 09:48:24 am
I Play fighting games perfectly in the current xd. Maybe mine is better build but i never had issues. Thr XD 2 will have a diferent design anyway, Xperia Play like, so who knows how good will be the dpad.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: tiagao_extremo on September 09, 2017, 01:34:49 pm
I Play fighting games perfectly in the current xd. Maybe mine is better build but i never had issues. Thr XD 2 will have a diferent design anyway, Xperia Play like, so who knows how good will be the dpad.

Agreed. Mine works perfectly even for fighting games. It's way better than the DPAD the G5A had for example.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: davidagamer on September 09, 2017, 03:11:19 pm
I hope there's Bluetooth! And at least capable of running android 5.1!

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: siegel17701 on September 09, 2017, 06:38:58 pm
I hope there's Bluetooth! And at least capable of running android 5.1!

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: jamespoo on September 10, 2017, 12:34:06 pm
i don't think i will ever get one
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: KSS1992 on September 14, 2017, 03:27:03 pm
Do you guys think this upgraded GPD XD will be out by the end of the year? wow just realized its been 2 years since gpd xd lol
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on September 14, 2017, 03:33:10 pm
The upgraded gpd xd 1 maybe, the gpd xd 2 i wouldn't expect until mid 2018 minimum
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: KSS1992 on September 14, 2017, 03:44:02 pm
The upgraded gpd xd 1 maybe, the gpd xd 2 i wouldn't expect until mid 2018 minimum

Aw ok. Cause i definetely want a GPD XD but if an upgraded one is coming ill wait. What do you think?
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on September 14, 2017, 04:13:11 pm
The upgraded gpd xd 1 maybe, the gpd xd 2 i wouldn't expect until mid 2018 minimum

Aw ok. Cause i definetely want a GPD XD but if an upgraded one is coming ill wait. What do you think?

I don't know the specs of  the new one. If you are not in a hurry, I would wait until knowing more info.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: KSS1992 on September 14, 2017, 05:04:02 pm
The upgraded gpd xd 1 maybe, the gpd xd 2 i wouldn't expect until mid 2018 minimum

Aw ok. Cause i definetely want a GPD XD but if an upgraded one is coming ill wait. What do you think?

I don't know the specs of  the new one. If you are not in a hurry, I would wait until knowing more info.

Ok cool. Kind of off topic but what do yoiu guys think of like a GPD vs an android phone with controller? I was looking int a sony xperia xz with bounabay controller (makes it look like a vita lol) but i feel like constant emulation will drian the battery fast on a phone lol then its like wait i cant call this person bc my phone battery is discharged bc i was playing emulator games lol
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on September 14, 2017, 05:18:52 pm
I personally prefer a standalone device. If you have good phone, then a gamepad can be enough, but battery time is not good, at least in my phone when I used It.
I also suggest a gpd win over the gpd xd if you can afford it, unless you are not interested in dolphin or pc games
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: dreamesper on September 14, 2017, 05:54:03 pm
I doubt it'll be a necessary product on the market until late 2018/early 2019.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: KSS1992 on September 14, 2017, 06:12:12 pm
I doubt it'll be a necessary product on the market until late 2018/early 2019.

Yeah I agree,the only reason I got tempted by the Sony Xperia XZ is because of the ability to play ps4 remote play. I miss the android hacked app that let any phone do it (I used to do it on my Nvidia Shield). Has anyone revivied this project? I heard it worked on the GPD XD
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: animeware on October 19, 2017, 04:57:23 am
Hello I'm new here

I got e-mail from Admin at gpd.hk (http://gpd.hk) website

I got e-mail back from admin say's today saying XD 2 is being developed.

My guess it's on it's way in development it will come sometime in 2018 I hope so.

Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: jackal27 on October 20, 2017, 04:49:18 pm
Welp. Guess I'm buying another new device in a few months lol. Oh well my wife is used to it by now I suppose .
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on October 27, 2017, 03:22:21 pm
Following pic came from a post on GPDs chinese forum. The translation was so bad I'm not sure what it is.  It said GPD Special machine with Snapdragon 821 and fan. Could be the XD2

(https://i.imgur.com/HdLj4DY.jpg)
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on October 27, 2017, 04:11:58 pm
Following pic came from a post on GPDs chinese forum. The translation was so bad I'm not sure what it is.  It said GPD Special machine with Snapdragon 821 and fan. Could be the XD2

(https://i.imgur.com/HdLj4DY.jpg)

Yeah, but no exactly XD2 as we thought it waa going to be . A GPD dev told me that XD 2 was cancelled and they would release that deviuce shown in the photo, just a phone/tablet with a single joystick for MOBA chinese games. So unless further notice, what I heard is that XD 2 is cancelled, though XD upgraded model called XDS can be considered as an Xd 2 indeed. Strange decision but I suppose it's thought fdor chinese people, because one single joystick is just ridiculous.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: PsyOps on October 27, 2017, 05:26:18 pm
Yes one joystick, thumbs down. I would not even consider buying it, even with better hardware. I will wait for the XDS.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: siegel17701 on October 27, 2017, 07:11:30 pm
1 thumb stick and no buttons? What game does this work for?

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: PsyOps on October 27, 2017, 07:34:44 pm
1 thumb stick and no buttons? What game does this work for?

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Atari ftw!  ::)
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on October 28, 2017, 12:35:58 am
Following pic came from a post on GPDs chinese forum. The translation was so bad I'm not sure what it is.  It said GPD Special machine with Snapdragon 821 and fan. Could be the XD2

(https://i.imgur.com/HdLj4DY.jpg)

Yeah, but no exactly XD2 as we thought it waa going to be . A GPD dev told me that XD 2 was cancelled and they would release that deviuce shown in the photo, just a phone/tablet with a single joystick for MOBA chinese games. So unless further notice, what I heard is that XD 2 is cancelled, though XD upgraded model called XDS can be considered as an Xd 2 indeed. Strange decision but I suppose it's thought fdor chinese people, because one single joystick is just ridiculous.

One joystick , are you sure, I thought that picture was just of the parts of it, ie with the screen placed on top of the bottom case so that it's covering the right joystick and buttons?.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on October 28, 2017, 12:42:44 am
Hmmmmm


(https://i.imgur.com/kr1Wrvf.jpg)
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: PsyOps on October 28, 2017, 01:12:45 am
The same people designed this: https://youtu.be/PisbWEEEYoE
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: ker on October 28, 2017, 03:28:03 pm
The same people designed this: https://youtu.be/PisbWEEEYoE
hahahahaha

One thumb stick and two buttons in top right corner looks as a tablet with "thumb mouse" for me.

Perhaps they don't know about touchscreens? o_O

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on October 28, 2017, 10:20:46 pm
From what I read, I don't think this is the final form, rather it is said to be an early test setup for the device.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: nmkd on October 28, 2017, 10:22:53 pm
From what I read, I don't think this is the final form, rather it is said to be an early test setup for the device.
Yeah, the Win was also different in the early stages.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: siegel17701 on October 29, 2017, 02:46:22 am
Is it strange that I kinda want this weird franken-device?

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on October 29, 2017, 04:08:24 am
Is it strange that I kinda want this weird franken-device?

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Yes  :P
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: alyinsanfran on October 29, 2017, 04:09:52 am
Sigh. I guess I'll have to grab a backup original XD then, for when mine dies.

Why won't anyone take my money? ;-)
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on October 29, 2017, 10:22:42 am
Oh boy. I get the feeling this will be china only and designed for Moba players.  NOt the final desin, but a test deisgn so to speak


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvLRQYg-m-I


"This is the use of XD transformation of the idea machine, the left side of the rocker operation role direction, the right side of the touch screen using the action keys. Design, the screen ratio is 18: 9 large widescreen, this ratio in the glory of the king can see a more spacious map, so as to develop plans, pre-emptive. This machine is not only for the king glory dedicated, any similar game can also operate, or can also be considered for the development of hand for the body. Again, the film in the body for the use of XD transformation of the temporary idea machine, if the internal shareholders agreed that the program is feasible, will begin to optimize the appearance of the transformation."
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on October 29, 2017, 12:05:51 pm
That's what I explained a few posts ago. It's for chinese and some moba games exclusive for them. The xd 2 Will be probably cancelled and just replaced with theXDS, an upgraded model with faster cpu and android nougat upgradeable to oreo.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on October 29, 2017, 12:14:17 pm
That's what I explained a few posts ago. It's for chinese and some moba games exclusive for them. The xd 2 Will be probably cancelled and just replaced with theXDS, an upgraded model with faster cpu and android nougat upgradeable to oreo.

Sodo you think they will release the Moba machine above AND also update the XD?
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on October 29, 2017, 12:26:45 pm
The xd upgraded model has a protoyype ready. Will Come with a mtk chipset and the same form factor as current xd. It's just a revision because rk3288 is being discontinued. So probably they release both things, though that moba device probably for chinese market only.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on October 29, 2017, 12:33:18 pm
The xd upgraded model has a protoyype ready. Will Come with a mtk chipset and the same form factor as current xd. It's just a revision because rk3288 is being discontinued. So probably they release both things, though that moba device probably for chinese market only.

Ah, when you said previosuly that they canceled the XD 2, I thought you meant they canceled the MTK version.  That clears things up.  I wonder though, if they will now use the Snapdragon 821 seeing since they are looking at using thst SOC for the new Moba device.

I wonder what happened with Rockchip, a few years back they seemed to be really doing well. Now it seems they have gone down hill fast.  I get the feeling they delayed the RK3399 for too long and the market moved on.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on October 29, 2017, 01:28:48 pm
Rockchip have chosen to Focus on stb boxes, so the rk3399 is not available for tablets, that's why they decided to go for mtk. As far as i know, the proto of the upgraded XD use a mtk 8176, the same as Xiaomi mi pad 3, probably because of cost. I suppose the xd upgraded Will cost more or less the same as current one.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: AVahne on October 29, 2017, 03:44:11 pm
Are MOBAs that big in China that they need a mobile device designed specifically for them? I can't see this thing being useful for anything else. Wish they would continue work on XD2, instead of doing this weird thing and XDS.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on October 29, 2017, 04:25:21 pm
The XDS is going to have the same specs as the XD 2 they announced. So at least in specs can be considered an XD 2.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: siegel17701 on October 29, 2017, 06:38:43 pm
The XDS is going to have the same specs as the XD 2 they announced. So at least in specs can be considered an XD 2.
So in your opinion will it be worth upgrading to xds? The XD is pretty much flawless right now.

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on October 29, 2017, 06:57:40 pm
The XDS is going to have the same specs as the XD 2 they announced. So at least in specs can be considered an XD 2.
So in your opinion will it be worth upgrading to xds? The XD is pretty much flawless right now.

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Well, it depends on the price. If it has a similar price then yes, because  the SoC is faster, but if it's more expensive then a GPD WIN is better for emulaton purposes (and PC gaming)
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on October 30, 2017, 12:34:59 am
See following post

Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on October 30, 2017, 03:08:18 am
I  asked Kit about if GPD still planned to launch a XD2. This was his answer

"XD2 will be delayed, during which XD will launch a Bluetooth version, may use the MTK CPU."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvLRQYg-m-I
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: siegel17701 on October 30, 2017, 09:43:11 am
Bluetooth, im in... I hate wires!

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: PsyOps on October 30, 2017, 10:13:18 am
no dongles for controllers n usb hubs n stuff! yay.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: diablotinbouky on October 30, 2017, 06:43:43 pm
Hello,

Gpd doesn't give many news about new devices...

For what i know, Xd 'S' should be release on the end of the year...

Cpu should be Mediatek MT8176

Xd 'S' should use same body like classic Xd ( black 32go )

No more news... Android version, Bluetooth?

Ced
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on October 30, 2017, 07:36:31 pm
Hello,

Gpd doesn't give many news about new devices...

For what i know, Xd 'S' should be release on the end of the year...

Cpu should be Mediatek MT8176

Xd 'S' should use same body like classic Xd ( black 32go )

No more news... Android version, Bluetooth?

Ced

Android 7 and BT
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: diablotinbouky on October 30, 2017, 07:46:52 pm
So, that should be a nice upgrade for the Xd  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on October 30, 2017, 10:04:12 pm

For what i know, Xd 'S' should be release on the end of the year...



End of this year, or end of next year?
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: alyinsanfran on October 31, 2017, 01:33:54 am
I'm not looking to upgrade until PS2 emulation is good. Although I would accept XBox.

As far as I can tell, either is a few years away yet.

Not that I'm unhappy: PS1 is so good that I'm set for quite a while.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Web8bits on October 31, 2017, 09:52:04 am
As far as I know:

The next XD console will be available on shops around February/March next year, specs: MTK chipset, biuetooth,  same form factor that actual XD, 32 GB storage, price not revealed.

Regards
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on October 31, 2017, 11:03:23 am
As far as I know:

The next XD console will be available on shops around February/March next year, specs: MTK chipset, biuetooth,  same form factor that actual XD, 32 GB storage, price not revealed.

Regards

Thanks for that
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: sirp0p0 on October 31, 2017, 12:01:58 pm
As far as I know:

The next XD console will be available on shops around February/March next year, specs: MTK chipset, biuetooth,  same form factor that actual XD, 32 GB storage, price not revealed.

Regards
If we get an upgraded XD with some of the problems of the original XD fixed, I'd be super happy about that. I hope it retails for about the same but I imagine it's going to be costlier. Hopefully not more than $300.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on October 31, 2017, 12:56:08 pm
I don't think they release at 300 US dollars, because nobody would buy. It's better to get a gpdwin at that price
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: onthebridge on October 31, 2017, 03:30:17 pm
What I would love is a small android handheld at around 50 dollars, they are nowhere to be seen

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: ker on October 31, 2017, 04:01:12 pm
What I would love is a small android handheld at around 50 dollars, they are nowhere to be seen

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: sirp0p0 on October 31, 2017, 11:57:19 pm
What I would love is a small android handheld at around 50 dollars, they are nowhere to be seen

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That's a bit low. That barely covers the cost of the screen, nevermind the CPU or other hardware.
The best you could get for $50 is maybe a used Xperia Play from eBay.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: dpsychedelic on November 05, 2017, 01:31:51 am
What I would love is a small android handheld at around 50 dollars, they are nowhere to be seen
Not precisely handheld but I guess a Fire Tablet (as low as $30 on black friday I think?), rooted and using one of those clamp-type thingies you attach a controller to (sort of like the nVidia shield tablet) would be around that mark.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: siegel17701 on November 05, 2017, 04:40:25 am
Saw on eBay xperia play for $50-70.

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Goubak on November 05, 2017, 09:46:18 pm
If the price stays the same, this XD S would be a nice upgrade. Bluetooth and MT8176's A72 cores should be nice additions. And I hope Android 7 will give support to Vulcan API for a boost in 3D emulators.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on November 05, 2017, 10:32:13 pm
Vulkan is only useful for Dolphin, which is still too much for a mtk device. Also, that depends on powerVR support rather than android 7. Vulkan in Android is still too far in support in comparison with other OS
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Smoker1 on November 13, 2017, 02:30:58 am
Hopefully they will have a 64GB Version. Bluetooth will be MUCH better to have. For the Games that work better with a Moga, hen you have a 3rd Controller Option if they keep the PS3/360 Modes. Not sure how Moga Controllers work for some when they PS3/360 wont.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Kudara on November 22, 2017, 07:05:56 pm
I really hope that the GPD Win 2 has a good dpad! I got a gpd XD and i have a really bad dpad. It even gets stuck a bit on the left side if i try to play...
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: GGGbyLia on November 23, 2017, 03:34:00 pm
That sounds awesome! A bigger screen although the current one is perfect! I have recently reveiwed the GPD XD. I can't emphasise enough on how it's a phenomenal! Check out my gaming demos for Arcade, N64, PS1, DreamCast, Android etc: https://goo.gl/CdKYeu  Love both in Black and Red. Currently on SALE - the best Christmas gift! in Black: https://goo.gl/ortwQc and in Red: https://goo.gl/xQJsKA What is your favourite game on it???
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Kudara on November 23, 2017, 11:29:49 pm
Hey man how long do you have your gpd xD? And how is the Dpad on yours???
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on November 25, 2017, 06:25:27 pm
The new XDS should be available quite soon. Final specs that I know are : MTK8176 (hexa core), 4 GB RAM and 32 EMMC and Android nougat. Protos are being tested and maybe I can get one of them to help them with the stock firmware  so I'll let you know If i get something.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: PsyOps on November 25, 2017, 07:33:54 pm
Let me know if you need any help skelton. And make sure you compile in ext4 format 8).
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on November 25, 2017, 08:52:47 pm
Let me know if you need any help skelton. And make sure you compile in ext4 format 8).

That will depend on MTK SDK, I have never compiled anything for MTK devices. Anyhow, I will be just testing and making suggestions, not compiling anything, the changes I propose GPD will be the one to include them in their firmware.

P.D; (I compile in ext4 in XD too, but RK3XXX tools is the one that changes it, xD) MTK devices shouldn't have that problem, though many nougat firmwares use now f2fs instead of ext4, no idea about this MTK, since I don't have any source code and I don't know if GPD will provide it.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on November 25, 2017, 10:49:37 pm
The new XDS should be available quite soon. Final specs that I know are : MTK8176 (hexa core), 4 GB RAM and 32 EMMC and Android nougat. Protos are being tested and maybe I can get one of them to help them with the stock firmware  so I'll let you know If i get something.

32GB seems very low for todays standards

I have heard them say early next year for the XDS. Strange timing if they lanuch the WIN 2 IGG campaign at the same time

I would have hoped you would be right at the top of the list of people to get a pre production XDS.   Hopefully you do get one soon .  Presumably they will want you to  provide input on the firmware ?

P.S Do you know if its the clamshell design or the slider?
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on November 25, 2017, 10:55:13 pm
The new XDS should be available quite soon. Final specs that I know are : MTK8176 (hexa core), 4 GB RAM and 32 EMMC and Android nougat. Protos are being tested and maybe I can get one of them to help them with the stock firmware  so I'll let you know If i get something.

32GB seems very low for todays standards

I have heard them say early next year for the XDS. Strange timing if they lanuch the WIN 2 IGG campaign at the same time

I would have hoped you would be right at the top of the list of people to get a pre production XDS.   Hopefully you do get one soon .  Presumably they will want you to  provide input on the firmware ?

I suppose they wll do more versions with more internal storage, like in current XD. Android nougat allows sdcards to work as internal storage, so no big deal in this sense. (It's what I do in shield TV which is 16GB only).

And yeah, my work is just to provide input about firmware and help them if I find something wrong (bad screen refresh, joystick driver, etc...) but to be honest most probably the firmware will be quite ok for sure. GPD has learned a lot in this sense. I told them I am retired from custom firmwares but of ot's just testing then it's ok for me if they want to me to test the new model.  suppose they can do at the same time with win 2 campaign since it's two different targets anyway, (specially in the price, which I think it's gonna be high in win 2. I thinkk XDS will be released sooner because they already have functional protos
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on November 25, 2017, 10:58:14 pm
The new XDS should be available quite soon. Final specs that I know are : MTK8176 (hexa core), 4 GB RAM and 32 EMMC and Android nougat. Protos are being tested and maybe I can get one of them to help them with the stock firmware  so I'll let you know If i get something.

32GB seems very low for todays standards

I have heard them say early next year for the XDS. Strange timing if they lanuch the WIN 2 IGG campaign at the same time

I would have hoped you would be right at the top of the list of people to get a pre production XDS.   Hopefully you do get one soon .  Presumably they will want you to  provide input on the firmware ?

I suppose they wll do more versions with more internal storage, like in current XD. Android nougat allows sdcards to work as internal storage, so no big deal in this sense. (It's what I do in shield TV which is 16GB only).

And yeah, my work is just to provide input about firmware and help them if I find something wrong (bad screen refresh, joystick driver, etc...) but to be honest most probably the firmware will be quite ok for sure. GPD has learned a lot in this sense. I suppose they can do at the same time with win 2 campaign since it's two different targets anyway, (specially in the price, which I think it's gonna be high in win 2. I thinkk XDS will be released sooner because they already have functional protos

Do you know if the XDS will be a slider design or will it be a clamshell design?
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on November 25, 2017, 10:59:29 pm
The new XDS should be available quite soon. Final specs that I know are : MTK8176 (hexa core), 4 GB RAM and 32 EMMC and Android nougat. Protos are being tested and maybe I can get one of them to help them with the stock firmware  so I'll let you know If i get something.

32GB seems very low for todays standards

I have heard them say early next year for the XDS. Strange timing if they lanuch the WIN 2 IGG campaign at the same time

I would have hoped you would be right at the top of the list of people to get a pre production XDS.   Hopefully you do get one soon .  Presumably they will want you to  provide input on the firmware ?

I suppose they wll do more versions with more internal storage, like in current XD. Android nougat allows sdcards to work as internal storage, so no big deal in this sense. (It's what I do in shield TV which is 16GB only).

And yeah, my work is just to provide input about firmware and help them if I find something wrong (bad screen refresh, joystick driver, etc...) but to be honest most probably the firmware will be quite ok for sure. GPD has learned a lot in this sense. I suppose they can do at the same time with win 2 campaign since it's two different targets anyway, (specially in the price, which I think it's gonna be high in win 2. I thinkk XDS will be released sooner because they already have functional protos

Do you know if the XDS will be a slider design or will it be a clamshell design?

It's exactly like XD. It's just an upgrade because Rockchip is no selling RK3288 aymore so they had to change the SoC to keep it manufacturing. But it's not a XD 2 with different design, just an XD with different SoC. They changed the name just to make a difference between the two SoCs, but it's just an upgraded model, so to speak (perhaps with BT, though I am not sure).

For people that already have an XD probably the upgrade is not worth it, but for people who don't, probably the XDS should be better performance wise.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on November 25, 2017, 11:04:52 pm
The new XDS should be available quite soon. Final specs that I know are : MTK8176 (hexa core), 4 GB RAM and 32 EMMC and Android nougat. Protos are being tested and maybe I can get one of them to help them with the stock firmware  so I'll let you know If i get something.

32GB seems very low for todays standards

I have heard them say early next year for the XDS. Strange timing if they lanuch the WIN 2 IGG campaign at the same time

I would have hoped you would be right at the top of the list of people to get a pre production XDS.   Hopefully you do get one soon .  Presumably they will want you to  provide input on the firmware ?

I suppose they wll do more versions with more internal storage, like in current XD. Android nougat allows sdcards to work as internal storage, so no big deal in this sense. (It's what I do in shield TV which is 16GB only).

And yeah, my work is just to provide input about firmware and help them if I find something wrong (bad screen refresh, joystick driver, etc...) but to be honest most probably the firmware will be quite ok for sure. GPD has learned a lot in this sense. I suppose they can do at the same time with win 2 campaign since it's two different targets anyway, (specially in the price, which I think it's gonna be high in win 2. I thinkk XDS will be released sooner because they already have functional protos

Do you know if the XDS will be a slider design or will it be a clamshell design?

It's exactly like XD. It's just an upgrade because Rockchip is no selling RK3288 aymore so they had to change the SoC to keep it manufacturing. But it's not a XD 2 with different design, just an XD with different SoC. They changed the name just to make a difference between the two SoCs, but it's just an upgraded model, so to speak (perhaps with BT, though I am not sure).

For people that already have an XD probably the upgrade is not worth it, but for people who don't, probably the XDS should be better performance wise.

Pretty sure I heard them say on their Baidu forum that it will have Bluetooth. Not 100% sure though
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: dreamesper on November 25, 2017, 11:53:37 pm
Do you think that GPD will run an indiegogo campaign for this XDS model or no? Probably I assume they would do a new indiegogo campaign for the XD 2 or WIN2 I suppose...
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on November 26, 2017, 08:44:17 am
Do you think that GPD will run an indiegogo campaign for this XDS model or no? Probably I assume they would do a new indiegogo campaign for the XD 2 or WIN2 I suppose...

I don't know, they haven't told me. The XD didn'y have campaign, so perhaps XDS is the same case.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: tsukasa67 on November 26, 2017, 05:41:28 pm
The new XDS should be available quite soon. Final specs that I know are : MTK8176 (hexa core), 4 GB RAM and 32 EMMC and Android nougat. Protos are being tested and maybe I can get one of them to help them with the stock firmware  so I'll let you know If i get something.

32GB seems very low for todays standards

I have heard them say early next year for the XDS. Strange timing if they lanuch the WIN 2 IGG campaign at the same time

I would have hoped you would be right at the top of the list of people to get a pre production XDS.   Hopefully you do get one soon .  Presumably they will want you to  provide input on the firmware ?

I suppose they wll do more versions with more internal storage, like in current XD. Android nougat allows sdcards to work as internal storage, so no big deal in this sense. (It's what I do in shield TV which is 16GB only).

And yeah, my work is just to provide input about firmware and help them if I find something wrong (bad screen refresh, joystick driver, etc...) but to be honest most probably the firmware will be quite ok for sure. GPD has learned a lot in this sense. I suppose they can do at the same time with win 2 campaign since it's two different targets anyway, (specially in the price, which I think it's gonna be high in win 2. I thinkk XDS will be released sooner because they already have functional protos

Do you know if the XDS will be a slider design or will it be a clamshell design?

It's exactly like XD. It's just an upgrade because Rockchip is no selling RK3288 aymore so they had to change the SoC to keep it manufacturing. But it's not a XD 2 with different design, just an XD with different SoC. They changed the name just to make a difference between the two SoCs, but it's just an upgraded model, so to speak (perhaps with BT, though I am not sure).

For people that already have an XD probably the upgrade is not worth it, but for people who don't, probably the XDS should be better performance wise.

Man, if it had higher quality buttons I would be all over it. Surely better switches don't cost that much?
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on November 26, 2017, 07:00:17 pm
I personally don't find issues with xd controls. DPAD and buttons a bit mushy but are fine for me. No idea if some of the buttons or switches will be different in XDS though, or different membranes for dpad....
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Smoker1 on November 26, 2017, 08:52:56 pm
Hopefully the DPad can be Replaced with the 3DS Button, and the Joysticks can be switched out with 2nd Gen Vita Joysticks.
Again, I am still hoping for a 64GB Version
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: zoragon on November 30, 2017, 10:02:33 pm
Will the new XD2 hardware support Vulkan? That would really help with PPSSPP and might be enough for me to upgrade.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on November 30, 2017, 10:43:13 pm
Will the new XD2 hardware support Vulkan? That would really help with PPSSPP and might be enough for me to upgrade.

Vulkan in PPSSPP in Android is still full of bugs (graphic issues in many games in comparison to openGL
), even on shield TV or shield tablet whose tegra drivers are the most up to date for Vulkan.

Theoretically the GPU support it, but from what I read in PPSSPP forums, the best result are with adreno and nvidia GPUs, mali and PowerVR have worse vulkan drivers. The CPU upgrade is quite big, with two a72 cores that have a great single core performance, so that eould make 90 percent of games fullspeed considering that most games are fullspeed even in current XD tweaking the emu a little bit.

According to this video, the xiaomi mi pad3 support vulkan in dolphin (the games that work with vulkan in android, which are just a few) and it's the same MTK SoC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2Ui2m_KP3s
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Smoker1 on December 01, 2017, 06:57:18 am
@skelton : The Shield Portable had MAJOR Issues with only 16GB and allowed moving Apps to the MicroSD Card. Not to mention, when Starting up the Device, it Loaded the Card last and slowly. So for Users who have Folders with App Shortcuts, those would have to be put back every time.
Most Devices these Days have 64GB, 128GB or even 256GB. For Emulation, this would be great for MAME Roms, and also for Gaming Apps. 16GB will not get that many Users interrested
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on December 01, 2017, 08:27:49 am
@skelton : The Shield Portable had MAJOR Issues with only 16GB and allowed moving Apps to the MicroSD Card. Not to mention, when Starting up the Device, it Loaded the Card last and slowly. So for Users who have Folders with App Shortcuts, those would have to be put back every time.
Most Devices these Days have 64GB, 128GB or even 256GB. For Emulation, this would be great for MAME Roms, and also for Gaming Apps. 16GB will not get that many Users interrested

With android 7 you can select sd as internal storeage. It's what I do with shiejd TV and works fine. In my XD I only had 16 gbs and never had issues with foldermount. Shield portable firmwares were a bit buggy to be honest.

Anyhow, they will probably make a 64 GB version like with current XD.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Smoker1 on December 01, 2017, 10:08:20 pm
I hope so. Plus if Bluetooth is confirmed, that will also fix a few other Problems. There are some Games like Asphalt 7, that did not work fully with the PS3/XBox Controller Modes, but worked perfectly with my Moga Controllers. But hoping it will have better Emulation for the Modes.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on December 01, 2017, 11:01:20 pm
The games that are MOGA only is because MOGA pays exclusivity, just that. GPD use a standard HID mode, which is the common on android, but if a game is only developed for a specific controller, then it's hard to implement, perhaps using tincore keymapper. I personally never play android games so no big deal for me as long as emulators work ok. Though to be honest, with the emus on GPd WIN I rarely will play android emus, except Drastic, which has no good alternative under windows.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: finalmix on December 02, 2017, 01:13:45 am
The new XDS should be available quite soon. Final specs that I know are : MTK8176 (hexa core), 4 GB RAM and 32 EMMC and Android nougat. Protos are being tested and maybe I can get one of them to help them with the stock firmware  so I'll let you know If i get something.

Information from someone who has played it for a short period of time:
It will be called ? XD Plus (XD+)?, and the screen display quality will be update over the XD.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on December 02, 2017, 03:05:57 am
The new XDS should be available quite soon. Final specs that I know are : MTK8176 (hexa core), 4 GB RAM and 32 EMMC and Android nougat. Protos are being tested and maybe I can get one of them to help them with the stock firmware  so I'll let you know If i get something.

Information from someone who has played it for a short period of time:
It will be called ? XD Plus (XD+)?, and the screen display quality will be update over the XD.

What/who was the source of this?
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: LordDavon on December 02, 2017, 04:37:23 am
I suppose they wll do more versions with more internal storage, like in current XD. Android nougat allows sdcards to work as internal storage, so no big deal in this sense. (It's what I do in shield TV which is 16GB only).

And yeah, my work is just to provide input about firmware and help them if I find something wrong (bad screen refresh, joystick driver, etc...) but to be honest most probably the firmware will be quite ok for sure. GPD has learned a lot in this sense. I told them I am retired from custom firmwares but of ot's just testing then it's ok for me if they want to me to test the new model.  suppose they can do at the same time with win 2 campaign since it's two different targets anyway, (specially in the price, which I think it's gonna be high in win 2. I thinkk XDS will be released sooner because they already have functional protos

Do you know if they will update the screen a little, like with the WIN2?  The older I get, the worse my eyes are getting.  I hate wearing my glasses.  I have to wear glasses to use my XD, S7 Edge and even to use my phone for certain things.  Would love to hear they've upgraded to a 6+" screen.  There was room with all that bezel.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: AVahne on December 02, 2017, 05:04:14 am
I skipped the XD since I already have a Shield Portable and because my interest in mobile gaming was starting to wane, but lately I've been playing again now that I have a OnePlus 5T with a lot of storage and enough power for modern mobile games like Lineage 2 Revolution.
The XD+ sounds like it'll have a nice jump in power over the XD (though like everyone else I would've preferred an even bigger jump with the XD2, but I guess that won't be happening any time soon). Obviously won't be anywhere near as good as a phone with Snapdragon 835, but I still want SOMETHING that I can use for when I don't feel like playing with touchscreen or hooking up a BT controller. Plus I just like littering my room with portable devices.

Though, I really hope they increase screen size. I remember all those promotional images showing a pretty big screen, but those all turned out to be BS with them, in reality, just releasing a device with bigass bezels. All I ask is that they make those faked images a reality this time.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on December 02, 2017, 05:10:21 am
I  wonder if it will have a fan? 
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on December 02, 2017, 09:32:41 am
@LordDavon  , As far as I know, the XD+ or XDS as they also call it it's the same screen as XD, at least GPD told me that they only changed the SoC. But who knows, a prototype is coming so I will let you know when i get it (they sent via ordinary mail, so it will be while till I get it). If they use the same mold as XD I don't think it comes with a fan, probably just dissipation like in current XD I guess.

Anyhow, I just remember that XD+ is just an upgrade from current XD. The presumably XD2 is still in the air and maybe can be a different device (in form factor, or Soc, who knows...)
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: dreamesper on December 02, 2017, 11:00:58 pm
@skelton

for the XD+, are you going to create another custom ROM as legacyROM??
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on December 02, 2017, 11:12:19 pm
@skelton

for the XD+, are you going to create another custom ROM as legacyROM??

No, I am retired from android scene. I only will help GPD with the stock firmware testing and providing info or patch if I find something serious that need a fix. (like screen refresh rates, or things that need a must fix, so to speak). To be honest I don't have time and specially enthusiasm for more custom roms (after several things that happened after my legacyROM for XD). Other people should begin to give some love to these devices. I have made firmwares for android for 4 years (since my beloced jxd s601, it's time to stop) About GPD Xd+ stock firmware, the decision about what to include in stock firmware will be of them (if they include chinese apps, or no root, etc it's up to them)
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on December 02, 2017, 11:22:47 pm
@skelton

for the XD+, are you going to create another custom ROM as legacyROM??

No, I am retired from android scene. I only will help GPD with the stock firmware testing and providing info or patch if I find something serious that need a fix. (like screen refresh rates, or things that need a must fix, so to speak). To be honest I don't have time and specially enthusiasm for more custom roms (after several things that happened after my legacyROM for XD). Other people should begin to give some love to these devices. I have made firmwares for android for 4 years (since my beloced jxd s601, it's time to stop) About GPD Xd+ stock firmware, the decision about what to include in stock firmware will be of them (if they include chinese apps, or no root, etc it's up to them)

That's a shame theysent the XD + to you via snail mail.   You think they would have given you the option for DHL or something
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Smoker1 on December 03, 2017, 01:28:45 am
The new XDS should be available quite soon. Final specs that I know are : MTK8176 (hexa core), 4 GB RAM and 32 EMMC and Android nougat. Protos are being tested and maybe I can get one of them to help them with the stock firmware  so I'll let you know If i get something.

Information from someone who has played it for a short period of time:
It will be called ? XD Plus (XD+)?, and the screen display quality will be update over the XD.

Please Confirm.......Bluetooth? :D
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: finalmix on December 03, 2017, 07:07:52 am
I  wonder if it will have a fan?

No fan on XD+.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: finalmix on December 03, 2017, 07:09:59 am
The new XDS should be available quite soon. Final specs that I know are : MTK8176 (hexa core), 4 GB RAM and 32 EMMC and Android nougat. Protos are being tested and maybe I can get one of them to help them with the stock firmware  so I'll let you know If i get something.

Information from someone who has played it for a short period of time:
It will be called ? XD Plus (XD+)?, and the screen display quality will be update over the XD.

What/who was the source of this?

I think that he got a protype from GPD. He also tested newest MAME for PGM2 games, such as Oriental Legend 2, it runs smooth on XD+.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: finalmix on December 03, 2017, 07:12:41 am
The new XDS should be available quite soon. Final specs that I know are : MTK8176 (hexa core), 4 GB RAM and 32 EMMC and Android nougat. Protos are being tested and maybe I can get one of them to help them with the stock firmware  so I'll let you know If i get something.

Information from someone who has played it for a short period of time:
It will be called ? XD Plus (XD+)?, and the screen display quality will be update over the XD.

Please Confirm.......Bluetooth? :D

Bluetooth is YES.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: finalmix on December 03, 2017, 07:29:18 am
@LordDavon  , As far as I know, the XD+ or XDS as they also call it it's the same screen as XD, at least GPD told me that they only changed the SoC. But who knows, a prototype is coming so I will let you know when i get it (they sent via ordinary mail, so it will be while till I get it). If they use the same mold as XD I don't think it comes with a fan, probably just dissipation like in current XD I guess.

Anyhow, I just remember that XD+ is just an upgrade from current XD. The presumably XD2 is still in the air and maybe can be a different device (in form factor, or Soc, who knows...)

I said XD+ screen display quality will be update over XD, means when we stare at screen, our eyes are not as uncomfortable as XD were. Resolution & size remains unchanged.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: crazyhorse2352 on December 03, 2017, 07:47:28 am
 Please try the dolphin emulator and change the back end to support vulkan.Apparently its been updated, i think one video of the xd2 running wind waker will boost sales.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: crazyhorse2352 on December 03, 2017, 07:51:09 am
ooops got that wrong its ppsspp thats been updated
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on December 03, 2017, 08:33:34 am
I  wonder if it will have a fan?

No fan on XD+.

Thanks for all that info.  Did this guy post any pics of the XD + that you can share here
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on December 03, 2017, 08:37:01 am
@LordDavon  , As far as I know, the XD+ or XDS as they also call it it's the same screen as XD, at least GPD told me that they only changed the SoC. But who knows, a prototype is coming so I will let you know when i get it (they sent via ordinary mail, so it will be while till I get it). If they use the same mold as XD I don't think it comes with a fan, probably just dissipation like in current XD I guess.

Anyhow, I just remember that XD+ is just an upgrade from current XD. The presumably XD2 is still in the air and maybe can be a different device (in form factor, or Soc, who knows...)

I said XD+ screen display quality will be update over XD, means when we stare at screen, our eyes are not as uncomfortable as XD were. Resolution & size remains unchanged.

I see. I find the screen of current XD good, but if they improve it, the better for us.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on December 03, 2017, 08:40:54 am
ooops got that wrong its ppsspp thats been updated

I'll check if it supports vulkan. Theory is that it should be supported, but I suppose that will depend on power VR drivers, if they are updated, etc... Vulkan in PPSSPP is very glitchy yet though, faster than openGL but many games have glitches, I suppose it will improve with time, since vulkan in android is very premilimary yet.
I am more curious in Saturn emulation though. Dolphin will be probably too much, except for a few titles maybe...
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: alexei_gp on December 03, 2017, 10:17:07 pm
Estimate price for the GPD X+? im interesting in buying one and get ride for my crappy nvidia shield portable.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on December 03, 2017, 11:04:33 pm
Estimate price for the GPD X+? im interesting in buying one and get ride for my crappy nvidia shield portable.

They haven't told me. I suppose a bit more expensive than current model, but no much I guess, because if they release it around 250 o 300 Us dollars then a GPD WIN is the winner for me.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: sirp0p0 on December 04, 2017, 01:34:00 am
Estimate price for the GPD X+? im interesting in buying one and get ride for my crappy nvidia shield portable.

They haven't told me. I suppose a bit more expensive than current model, but no much I guess, because if they release it around 250 o 300 Us dollars then a GPD WIN is the winner for me.
Will you be able to put photos up when you get it or has GPD asked you not to?
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on December 04, 2017, 01:43:35 am
Estimate price for the GPD X+? im interesting in buying one and get ride for my crappy nvidia shield portable.

They haven't told me. I suppose a bit more expensive than current model, but no much I guess, because if they release it around 250 o 300 Us dollars then a GPD WIN is the winner for me.
Will you be able to put photos up when you get it or has GPD asked you not to?

Phawx is getting one also, he is planning to do a video on it.  He's expecting it Tuesday with a video to follow sometime later this week
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: EvilDragon on December 04, 2017, 03:24:52 am
They will go to distributors around middle.of January.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on December 04, 2017, 03:39:49 am
They will go to distributors around middle.of January.

Do you know what price these will be sold for in your shop ED?
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: finalmix on December 04, 2017, 04:58:32 am
I  wonder if it will have a fan?

No fan on XD+.

Thanks for all that info.  Did this guy post any pics of the XD + that you can share here
No, he did not.

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Smoker1 on December 04, 2017, 06:10:02 am
If the Specs are better than the XD 1 Version, oh hell yeah. But yeah, GPD seriously needs to go through Ebay and/or Amazon for Replacement Parts like other Sellers.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on December 04, 2017, 08:40:13 am
Estimate price for the GPD X+? im interesting in buying one and get ride for my crappy nvidia shield portable.

They haven't told me. I suppose a bit more expensive than current model, but no much I guess, because if they release it around 250 o 300 Us dollars then a GPD WIN is the winner for me.
Will you be able to put photos up when you get it or has GPD asked you not to?

Sure, it shouldn't be a problem. I can also test some emus and make a video. But maybe other people get it faster than me. If the mold is the same photos shouldn?t be much different, except for screen photos showing software.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Phawx on December 04, 2017, 05:14:26 pm
@skelton

I have a MiPad 3 but (at least MIUI9) doesn't seem to have powervr drivers that supports Vulkan. 

Do you know if GPD has access to PowerVR Drivers and if they have latest? 
 
ImgTec seems to have had Vulkan drivers for quite some time now:

https://community.imgtec.com/developers/powervr/vulkan/

Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: EvilDragon on December 04, 2017, 05:16:32 pm
They will go to distributors around middle.of January.

Do you know what price these will be sold for in your shop ED?

Not yet, GPD couldn't give me any prices yet.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on December 04, 2017, 05:27:52 pm
@skelton

I have a MiPad 3 but (at least MIUI9) doesn't seem to have powervr drivers that supports Vulkan. 

Do you know if GPD has access to PowerVR Drivers and if they have latest? 
 
ImgTec seems to have had Vulkan drivers for quite some time now:

https://community.imgtec.com/developers/powervr/vulkan/

I don't know, I suppose we will have to wait to test it. Generally userspace libs for GPU are close source, and more in the case of powerVR, so maybe it depends on MTK SDK if they include it or not. The chip supports it, but no idea if MTK has included it them already in their SDK. I I know GPD compiles new stuff when they have a new SDK available, but they depend on MTK source code, so we'll have to wait until the unit arrives. There are no many tablets with that SoC yet, so I hope Mediatek updates the SDK to support vulkan.

The GPU is supported, at least partially:

https://vulkan.gpuinfo.org/listreports.php?devicename=PowerVR+Rogue+GX6250

Adreno and Nvidia are better for Vulkan support than mali or powerrVr.

PPSSPP and Dolphin support Vulkan so it's a quick test, though PPSSPP has still a lot w ork for vulkan backend under android.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: AegisMoonlight on December 04, 2017, 06:23:41 pm
Estimate price for the GPD X+? im interesting in buying one and get ride for my crappy nvidia shield portable.

They haven't told me. I suppose a bit more expensive than current model, but no much I guess, because if they release it around 250 o 300 Us dollars then a GPD WIN is the winner for me.
Will you be able to put photos up when you get it or has GPD asked you not to?

Sure, it shouldn't be a problem. I can also test some emus and make a video. But maybe other people get it faster than me. If the mold is the same photos shouldn?t be much different, except for screen photos showing software.

If possible could you try out EpsxE on the new unit, when you got it?
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: zoragon on December 04, 2017, 06:43:43 pm
Estimate price for the GPD X+? im interesting in buying one and get ride for my crappy nvidia shield portable.

They haven't told me. I suppose a bit more expensive than current model, but no much I guess, because if they release it around 250 o 300 Us dollars then a GPD WIN is the winner for me.
Will you be able to put photos up when you get it or has GPD asked you not to?

Sure, it shouldn't be a problem. I can also test some emus and make a video. But maybe other people get it faster than me. If the mold is the same photos shouldn?t be much different, except for screen photos showing software.

If possible could you try out EpsxE on the new unit, when you got it?

PS1 emulation is already perfect on hardware much weaker than the current GPD XD. PS1 will work more than fine.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: AegisMoonlight on December 04, 2017, 06:51:37 pm
Estimate price for the GPD X+? im interesting in buying one and get ride for my crappy nvidia shield portable.

They haven't told me. I suppose a bit more expensive than current model, but no much I guess, because if they release it around 250 o 300 Us dollars then a GPD WIN is the winner for me.
Will you be able to put photos up when you get it or has GPD asked you not to?

Sure, it shouldn't be a problem. I can also test some emus and make a video. But maybe other people get it faster than me. If the mold is the same photos shouldn?t be much different, except for screen photos showing software.

If possible could you try out EpsxE on the new unit, when you got it?

PS1 emulation is already perfect on hardware much weaker than the current GPD XD. PS1 will work more than fine.

Thats a relief
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on December 04, 2017, 09:49:53 pm
EPSXE is not too demanding, works ok on almost any hardware. PPSSPP is perhaps a better test or Yaba Sanshiro for sega saturn.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Web8bits on December 05, 2017, 08:51:06 am
They will go to distributors around middle.of January.

According to my information from GPD the "new" XD will be available at retail chain in Europe around March,  so its not clear the launch date.

No information about price.

Regards
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: diablotinbouky on December 05, 2017, 09:43:23 am
They will go to distributors around middle.of January.

According to my information from GPD the "new" XD will be available at retail chain in Europe around March,  so its not clear the launch date.

No information about price.

Regards

Same sound here...February or March and no prices  :P

Ced
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on December 05, 2017, 10:22:18 am
It makes sense, they probably want a deep test of the prots before a massive production of the devices.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on December 05, 2017, 10:28:38 am
It makes sense, they probably want a deep test of the prots before a massive production of the devices.

GPD probably don't fully know themselves when they will launch it.  Alpha testing has to happen, then issues found need to be fixed, then beta testing, and again issues found need to be fixed.  Hard to judge the time that all takes
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on December 05, 2017, 10:37:33 am
I don' think the firmware has many issues, or at least I hope so, but they will want to assure the hardware part. I personally think it's a good idea before releasing a secomd batch with things fixed,
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: hellomoto on December 05, 2017, 05:07:34 pm
If someone could test tekken tag tournament in Mame, that would be great.  I have it on my galaxy S7 (snapdragon version).  It does this weird thing where it would speed up to over 100% after I minimize and go back while in gameplay.  Then, it would slow down again while playing for 10 seconds or so. rinse and repeat.  :/  Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on December 05, 2017, 05:11:15 pm
That is because of thermal throttling in your phone most probably. I wouldn't expect mame 3d games run well in xd+. Even shieldTV struugles with those games. Or the GPD WIN, whose mame for windows is much more optimized than the android ones.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: hellomoto on December 06, 2017, 03:04:43 am
@skelton - I made a video of this issue.  I don't think it is thermal throttling.  Take a look and let me know what you think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3_XRz0xrbA

Thanks!
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on December 06, 2017, 03:12:44 am
Phawx has received his XD+ . Blutooth and 5Hz Wifi have been confirmed.  It looks exactly the same as the current XD.

4GB Ram, MTK 8176 SOC (Antutu: 71500, Geekbench: Single Core 1375 Multi Core 3529)

If you want to see pics and more on it. Join the GPD Discord group and check out the XD section. 
Here is an invite to the GPD Discord group for everyone to use:  https://discord.gg/mnGyDj
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Smoker1 on December 06, 2017, 05:15:04 am
Cant wait for @Phawx  to Post his Review of it. If possible, hopefully it can run Dolphin to see how it runs, RetroArch/MAME2014/Tekken 1-3
Also hope they kept the Screen->Button Mapping Feature.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: vcoleiro1 on December 06, 2017, 05:54:35 am
Phawx's video on the XD+ is up on Youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQm5r6U4zqA

Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Smoker1 on December 06, 2017, 08:45:25 am
Dolphin Emulator running a GC Game looks perfect. GoW on PSP is improved, but still having slowdowns. Hopefully there are Wii Games that can be run and some MAME Games that have problems on the XD1
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on December 06, 2017, 09:42:00 am
@skelton - I made a video of this issue.  I don't think it is thermal throttling.  Take a look and let me know what you think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3_XRz0xrbA

Thanks!
It simply runs slow, but it's normal that game runs slow in android. In mu shield TV it runs pretty much the same. MAMe in ARM runs worse than x86. The only think you can try is frameskip or try with retroarch mame cores, but I doubt it will run better.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on December 06, 2017, 09:50:53 am
Phawx's video on the XD+ is up on Youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQm5r6U4zqA

Seeing the difference in benchmakrs in regard to Mipad3 it can be that GPD underclocked it a little bit to save battery (that wouldn't be a surprise) or maybe it suffers some thermal throttling. Single core scores is better than my shield tab, which is quite ok for this upgrade. Lack of vulkan is a pain, but maybe in the future with new firmwares Mediatek updates to vulkan support. (though I don't trust too much in MTK support). I hope Phawx can confirm if it comes rooted to control CPU or the refresh rate of the screen.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: dreamesper on December 06, 2017, 01:19:23 pm
Quote
Dolphin Emulator running a GC Game looks perfect. GoW on PSP is improved, but still having slowdowns. Hopefully there are Wii Games that can be run and some MAME Games that have problems on the XD1

Ya, the Gamecube vid of WIND WAKER running smooth is fantastic.. make a lotta gamers happy that it can run GC emulation fine now. Here's hoping that it can handle Wii games also.

 ;D
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Yakoh on December 06, 2017, 01:53:31 pm
Phawx's video on the XD+ is up on Youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQm5r6U4zqA

Seeing the difference in benchmakrs in regard to Mipad3 it can be that GPD underclocked it a little bit to save battery (that wouldn't be a surprise) or maybe it suffers some thermal throttling. Single core scores is better than my shield tab, which is quite ok for this upgrade. Lack of vulkan is a pain, but maybe in the future with new firmwares Mediatek updates to vulkan support. (though I don't trust too much in MTK support). I hope Phawx can confirm if it comes rooted to control CPU or the refresh rate of the screen.

According to the device itself (minute 00:40 of the video) it has 2 cortex [email protected] Ghz and 4 cortex [email protected] Ghz, so it doesn't seem to be underclocked, it runs at the exact same speed a MT8176 is supposed to.

So I'm wondering what the difference in performance might be due to. It's not something huge, the Mi Pad 3 scores 1.600-1.700 in single core and 3.700 in multicore, give or take, so it's around 10%, but I'm curious. Whay might be the reason? Thermal throttling as you suggested? A firmware wich is still far finished? Any other software-related issue?

Anyway the XD Plus seems to perform way better than the standar XD, even at this early alpha stage. At least twice as much according to benchmarks, but it seems to be even more in "real-life apps" (like emulators), which is a substantial leap in my opinion.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Faust on December 06, 2017, 02:21:17 pm
Phawx's video on the XD+ is up on Youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQm5r6U4zqA

Seeing the difference in benchmakrs in regard to Mipad3 it can be that GPD underclocked it a little bit to save battery (that wouldn't be a surprise) or maybe it suffers some thermal throttling. Single core scores is better than my shield tab, which is quite ok for this upgrade. Lack of vulkan is a pain, but maybe in the future with new firmwares Mediatek updates to vulkan support. (though I don't trust too much in MTK support). I hope Phawx can confirm if it comes rooted to control CPU or the refresh rate of the screen.

According to the device itself (minute 00:40 of the video) it has 2 cortex [email protected] Ghz and 4 cortex [email protected] Ghz, so it doesn't seem to be underclocked, it runs at the exact same speed a MT8176 is supposed to.

So I'm wondering what the difference in performance might be due to. It's not something huge, the Mi Pad 3 scores 1.600-1.700 in single core and 3.700 in multicore, give or take, so it's around 10%, but I'm curious. Whay might be the reason? Thermal throttling as you suggested? A firmware wich is still far finished? Any other software-related issue?

Anyway the XD Plus seems to perform way better than the standar XD, even at this early alpha stage. At least twice as much according to benchmarks, but it seems to be even more in "real-life apps" (like emulators), which is a substantial leap in my opinion.
Or maybe the mi pad runs on the two 2.1gHz cores

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on December 06, 2017, 02:35:19 pm
It also could be the firmware, maybe a bit more polished in mi pad 3. The fact that it shows 2,1 ghz doesn't imply it runs like that. Current XD shows 1,8 ghz and runs 1,4 in stock firmware, it needs my kernel to go higher. Anyhow, difference is minimal, and benchhmarks are just orientative. Device is also a proto so It's a bit soon to jump into conclussions. Another teclast device that use the same SoC also score a bit lower than mi pad 3. I think that CPU wise are good scores, mainly in single core which is what most emus use (my shield k1 is about 1100 in single core, and XD is about 900 with 1,8 ghz overclocked, so it's some improvement) . Maybe with root and cpu control scores would be a bit higher. Shield tab has a much better GPU though (and with vulkan).
The mtk8176 is mid range SoC, so I wouldn't expect miracles, it's closer to a snapdragon 652 or RK3399 than to a snapdragon 820 or higher.

The best benchmark anyhow is just testing emus, PPSSPP seems to run better, yaba sanshiro is a doubt (I'll test it when I get mine), or dolphin. Though I wouldn't expect dolphin to be great except less demanding games (wind waker luigi mansions or mario kart)
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Yakoh on December 06, 2017, 03:17:20 pm
Yes, and average score on Antutu for devices equipped with a MT8176 seems to be 74177, so performance is ok, and a substantial leap over the currect XD as I said. The Mi Pad 3 just scores a bit higher for whatever reason.

I'm really looking forward to seeing more emulators and games tested on the XD Plus. Maybe it's time to upgrade my old JXD S7800...
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: retroster on December 06, 2017, 03:42:14 pm
I really wish it had a bigger screen...
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: ruffnutts on December 06, 2017, 04:00:45 pm
Or atleast get rid of the black boarder so its to the eadge of the plastic bezel  8)
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: retroster on December 06, 2017, 04:26:14 pm
Or atleast get rid of the black boarder so its to the eadge of the plastic bezel  8)

since its still not final, i guess we could hope theyll put in a bigger screen?
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Faust on December 06, 2017, 06:14:22 pm
Or atleast get rid of the black boarder so its to the eadge of the plastic bezel  8)

since its still not final, i guess we could hope theyll put in a bigger screen?
They won't.


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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: siegel17701 on December 06, 2017, 09:00:45 pm
So at this point it doesn't look that much better than XD1. Other than bluetooth is it worth the upgrade? My XD plays everything I need it to.

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: PsyOps on December 06, 2017, 09:12:09 pm
hey skelton, if i start a crowdfunding thingy how much of a paycheck would you need to work on a custom kernel/rom?

If it is not a question of time and money, then I understand. But if a paycheck would help you out I could donate once again to help ( once i sort out my own finances hehe ) with whatever amount i can. Even if it is just a little I am sure that more would donate as well.

Just a thought.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on December 06, 2017, 09:24:12 pm
It's not a question of money, i Will get a device from gpd, it's a matter of time that i don't have. I got more rresponsabilities in  my job  so i practically don't have  time for almost anything. Also, at some point i needed to stop in order that other people continue working with these devices.  Firmware stock seems nice anyway, probably a custom rom is not even needed. I Will help gpd a little bit with firmware if i find something to improve so It should be ok with stock I guess.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on December 06, 2017, 09:25:23 pm
So at this point it doesn't look that much better than XD1. Other than bluetooth is it worth the upgrade? My XD plays everything I need it to.

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You have already answered yourself i think. If current xd fit your emulation needs, then you don't need It i guess.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: PsyOps on December 06, 2017, 09:54:54 pm
yeh as long as the cpu is not capped under its full potential then it shouldn't be a problem.

and i do understand. with what you have contributed already many people thank you =).

so now it is just a matter of a waiting game to see how it ends up.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on December 06, 2017, 10:29:53 pm
yeh as long as the cpu is not capped under its full potential then it shouldn't be a problem.

and i do understand. with what you have contributed already many people thank you =).

so now it is just a matter of a waiting game to see how it ends up.
The only way to know if it needs overclock is seeing kernel Code, which i don't have for ntk8176. Anyhow, a72 cores are fast so even with a slight underclock It should perform well. It's more important than mtk includes vulkan Support for that GPU, since emus are beginning to use it. Also, It seems it comes without root, so unless an easy root method is found, proba my a custom recovery Will be needed to root it. But i Will know more when my proto arrives.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: PsyOps on December 07, 2017, 12:40:13 am
we were discussing how usb-c could be a nice upgrade on the xd+ ( in discord chat). I am wondering if the current xd supports charging while using otg using a "Y" cable like this: https://www.amazon.com/Micro-Cable-Samsung-Player-OTHERS/dp/B00CXAC1ZW/ref=pd_lpo_vtph_147_bs_lp_tr_t_1?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=H3Y4TFB7R0ZV3D5MJTYK 
I bought it and should get it soon. I will try it and see if it works on old xd.
   
    It was stated on one of the comments that this is a feature that the ROM has to support and am wondering if you came accross anything like that in your rom skelton? If this does work on the xd that would be great and hopefully is something included in the rom that comes with xd+. If not then maybe that is something that should be suggested to the gpd team. This way we can dock the gpd xd and have it charging at the same time.

Here is a link with someone that made a custom kernel/rom to allow charging and otg: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/37755-timurs-kernel-usb-rom/

Thoughts anyone?

Of course if gpd somehow upgrades to usb-c for the xd+ then there will be no need for the hdmi port and it should have charging + docking(otg) capabilities.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Smoker1 on December 07, 2017, 04:33:51 am
@PsyOps : I dont think that will work for what you are wanting to use it for. Most Firmware for Android have removed that ability. The only thing that allows is for Charging USB Devices. Otherwise, it will not do anything. You might get it to Charge the Device, but at a slower Rate. I know this because I had the same idea a long while ago :(
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on December 07, 2017, 09:51:13 am
As far as i know these kind of adapters should work in my rom and in stock, but it would charge slowly i guess.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Web8bits on December 07, 2017, 11:55:18 am
The USB cable adapter that we sold on our shop:

https://www.micomputer.es/en/cables/313-usb-hub.html

Dont allow to charge the XD from the USB C connector and I think that is a XD "problem" not a specific problem with this adapter.

Regards
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: PsyOps on December 07, 2017, 05:38:20 pm
I think there are more factors to it. It is more than just the cable does/doesn't work.

I read someones post on one of the reviews for a Y cable that was pretty informative:

Quote
1) If you have done your research you probably know this, but devices supporting USB OTG will supply power to the attached USB device. This power comes directly from the phone when there isn't an attached power source on the USB OTG Y cable. On most new Android smartphones this is acceptable as they are supported out of the box via software (custom Kernels and stock and custom ROMs sometimes) and via robust hardware that allows power to be supplied out the same pins on IC boards that the power flows in normally when charging.

This draw across the IC board regulating the power can however be a problem. Normal draw from the USB attached device is rated at USB 2.0 standards. This means that your phone is capable of supplying 500mA @ 5V of power. However a higher draw can possibly brick your phone. If you decide to use OTG without the Female Y port powered, you will want to keep your attached devices within a single USB 2.0 spec power draw. HOWEVER, it has come to my attention (and I have personally experienced) that even staying in the acceptable range of power supply on some phones (Only 1 I have found) will cause the IC power board to "pop", hard bricking the phone. This can occur regardless of your Root, Kernel, and ROM. NOTE: I HAVE ONLY FOUND THIS TO BE A PROBLEM ON THE GALAXY S3 AND HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO REPRODUCE IT CONSISTENTLY, BUT THE FORUMS SHOW THAT IT OCCURS VERY RARELY (look on XDA:[...] for more info. Personally I haven't let this put me off as it seems to be a very rare issue). I have also tested various other Samsung Galaxy products, LG, Nexus, and HTC and have only noticed the issue with the GS3. My suspicion is that the IC power board on the GS3 is just not robust enough to handle consistently flipping from charging the phone to providing power and gets weaker over time (this is my personal conjecture but it aligns with some XDAs users beliefs as well). With warranty, my bricked phone was replaced within the week.

2) Next is the reason for some people not noticing charging on their phones. THIS IS NOT THE CABLE'S FAULT! For a device to see itself as charging, a MINIMUM of ~500mA @ 5V (USB 2.0) must be supplied to the smartphone. The Y nature of this cable means that it is splitting the current to the USB device and the smartphone. When you split the current of a 500mA @ 5V charger, both devices attempt to get 250mA @ 5V. This is NOT enough to trigger charging recognition by most devices. Assuming a few things, like that you are using both USB 2.0 spec devices, that means to power both devices and have the smartphone recognize charging, you need 1000mA (1A) to be supplied to the female micro USB port. Now this is where things get... interesting. By USB standards, High speed data transmission can only occur while the phone is getting 500mA. However there is a fast charge standard (Charging Downstream Port standards) that will allow charging currents up to 1500mA and change Voltage being used in data communication. This is all fine and dandy but the only thing is that your attached USB device might not like the higher currents or communications Voltage. (though I did not experience this problem, I am attempting to inform as much as possible from my understanding and experiences) Basically this all boils down to, If you want to use the USB OTG device AND charge your phone, make sure that your power supplied is not too small or too large for the devices attached, rather, just right.

3) Last, if your USB device isn't recognized, make sure it is formatted correctly, as most Android devices specify the format style to be specific (FAT seems most universal out of the box, but apps you can download can mount others). Consult the internet about this or how to format.

I ended up buying the Y cable and plan on attaching it by using the 5v 2.1A charger ( works great on my XD) to the power in on the Y cable and attaching the usb out to a powered usb hub so that it doesn't draw any power from OTG( or minimal amounts if required). It is also said that you must connect to xd then to power, then connect OTG usb out (specifically in that order).

So we will see if it works and how fast it charges if it does.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: PsyOps on December 07, 2017, 05:45:20 pm
I should mention that my main goal here is not for a fast charge, but to keep the gpd xd at the same charge, even with high demand on it. If at the very least buy hours of battery life. I do not plan on sitting in front of the xd for 24 hours or more hehe.

This could finally be the answer for a gpd xd dock that you can let charge while off, or turn it on while connected to tv.

If this works then most likely the xd+ will be setup the same way and we can release some type of DIY dock with a list of confirmed working cables n whatnot. I highly doubt that they are going to decide to add usb-c to the new design so this is probably our best bet.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Smoker1 on December 07, 2017, 06:50:25 pm
Yeah, it would be nice to have a Dock/Adapter that can Charge the Device and have a Full USB in it.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: siegel17701 on December 19, 2017, 05:57:46 am
Following pic came from a post on GPDs chinese forum. The translation was so bad I'm not sure what it is.  It said GPD Special machine with Snapdragon 821 and fan. Could be the XD2

(https://i.imgur.com/HdLj4DY.jpg)
Anyone know if this thing exists? I kinda want one

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: animeware on December 20, 2017, 02:29:02 am
I was wondering is the resolution be higher on the new gpd xd+ and be 64gb and 128gb model?

I own gpd q9 device I love it I heard the new gpd will have android 7 or maybe android 8 Oreo.

I don?t own gpd xd I?m going to hold off until new version comes out.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: jc7119 on January 03, 2018, 04:07:26 pm
I wish they would make R3 and L3 in the analog sticks.  Would make streaming games from my PC so much better.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: EdoNINJA93 on January 05, 2018, 02:44:25 am
It seems that GPD XD+ will be launched at the end of January! :)

http://forum.gpd.hk/t194-statement-gpd-xd-plus-has-not-been-listed
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: siegel17701 on February 06, 2018, 12:01:57 am
Thought I'd start a thread on the GPD XD2 since GPD have now started posting some renders of it.  It's still early days, and these renders are non final yet.


Anyway from this thread that Kit (from GPD) started , here are some early renders.  The current plan is for it to have a 6" screen that rotates back 360 degrees to fold flat on the bottom, so it can be used as a small tablet

When more details come in over time, I'll update this post (unless GPD start a new thread)

http://tieba.baidu.com/p/4377628677

(https://i0.wp.com/liliputing.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/gpd-xd2_01.jpg)

(https://i1.wp.com/liliputing.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/gpd-xd2_04.jpg)

(https://i1.wp.com/liliputing.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/gpd-xd2_02.jpg)

(https://i2.wp.com/liliputing.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/gpd-xd2_03.jpg)
Will we ever see this? Any news?

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: KSS1992 on February 07, 2018, 12:38:35 pm
Thought I'd start a thread on the GPD XD2 since GPD have now started posting some renders of it.  It's still early days, and these renders are non final yet.


Anyway from this thread that Kit (from GPD) started , here are some early renders.  The current plan is for it to have a 6" screen that rotates back 360 degrees to fold flat on the bottom, so it can be used as a small tablet

When more details come in over time, I'll update this post (unless GPD start a new thread)

http://tieba.baidu.com/p/4377628677

(https://i0.wp.com/liliputing.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/gpd-xd2_01.jpg)

(https://i1.wp.com/liliputing.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/gpd-xd2_04.jpg)

(https://i1.wp.com/liliputing.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/gpd-xd2_02.jpg)

(https://i2.wp.com/liliputing.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/gpd-xd2_03.jpg)
Will we ever see this? Any news?

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Yea they announced it its called GPD XD Plus and its supposed to come out this month
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Drem on February 07, 2018, 03:37:07 pm
Thought I'd start a thread on the GPD XD2 since GPD have now started posting some renders of it.  It's still early days, and these renders are non final yet.


Anyway from this thread that Kit (from GPD) started , here are some early renders.  The current plan is for it to have a 6" screen that rotates back 360 degrees to fold flat on the bottom, so it can be used as a small tablet

When more details come in over time, I'll update this post (unless GPD start a new thread)

http://tieba.baidu.com/p/4377628677

(https://i0.wp.com/liliputing.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/gpd-xd2_01.jpg)

(https://i1.wp.com/liliputing.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/gpd-xd2_04.jpg)

(https://i1.wp.com/liliputing.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/gpd-xd2_02.jpg)

(https://i2.wp.com/liliputing.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/gpd-xd2_03.jpg)
Will we ever see this? Any news?

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Yea they announced it its called GPD XD Plus and its supposed to come out this month
Whoa, really? :D

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: LtSneer on February 07, 2018, 03:45:34 pm
Thought I'd start a thread on the GPD XD2 since GPD have now started posting some renders of it.  It's still early days, and these renders are non final yet.


Anyway from this thread that Kit (from GPD) started , here are some early renders.  The current plan is for it to have a 6" screen that rotates back 360 degrees to fold flat on the bottom, so it can be used as a small tablet

When more details come in over time, I'll update this post (unless GPD start a new thread)

http://tieba.baidu.com/p/4377628677

(https://i0.wp.com/liliputing.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/gpd-xd2_01.jpg)

(https://i1.wp.com/liliputing.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/gpd-xd2_04.jpg)

(https://i1.wp.com/liliputing.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/gpd-xd2_02.jpg)

(https://i2.wp.com/liliputing.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/gpd-xd2_03.jpg)
Will we ever see this? Any news?

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Yea they announced it its called GPD XD Plus and its supposed to come out this month

The XD+ is just a refresh of the current design with a new chipset since the old one is discontinued. It's a lot faster than the original and has 64-bit support, but isn't a convertible design like the above concept image. It's been pushed back to an early March release.

ThePhawx has a side-by-side review of a prototype XD+ next to the original XD here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQm5r6U4zqA
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: siegel17701 on February 07, 2018, 04:28:33 pm
Im not taking about the plus. I am asking about the original post. The redesign in the images.

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: LtSneer on February 07, 2018, 06:20:20 pm
Im not taking about the plus. I am asking about the original post. The redesign in the images.

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Yeah, I have no idea if/when this design will see the light of day. They're more focused on advertising the Windows devices lately. If they do make this one, it's likely to go up on Indiegogo later this year or maybe sometime next year since they just retooled the current model. I'd back an XD2 on day one if they make it.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: superfenix2020 on February 08, 2018, 10:12:32 am
Well, I don't like it!

When does GPD G5A 2?

(https://cnet4.cbsistatic.com/img/qqmRY5L-P5bMhd4FIggqkZmWM58=/2009/07/23/9c294ba7-f8e0-11e2-8c7c-d4ae52e62bcc/port360.jpg)


...or something similar to a PS Vita/Switch.

(https://fotos.subefotos.com/59ea44cc400c04793b05268222e35b21o.jpg)

(https://www.muycomputer.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/Nintendo-nX.jpeg)
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: siegel17701 on March 23, 2018, 12:25:24 am
The wait is what makes me mental!

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: dubsmachine on March 23, 2018, 11:33:50 am
Belchine wrote on their Facebook:
Gpd announces the availability of for the 1st of April. Or the 10th of April. Hopefully, this time this is the good
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: diablotinbouky on April 13, 2018, 07:24:22 am
Yes!!!! In Stock  8) 8) 8)

(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/17/41/36/33/30623610.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/17413633/1232)
(https://i62.servimg.com/u/f62/17/41/36/33/30624210.jpg) (https://servimg.com/view/17413633/1231)
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Sousaptak on April 14, 2018, 03:59:39 pm
Great to see XD+ as an upgrade, am I the only one who is still expecting XD2 to released with SD821 ? ( they should get cheaper now as SD 845 is rolling out and 855 will hit by year-end, pairing SD821 with (4GB+64GB storage)/ (6GB+128 GB storage) will drastically boost the performance, I want something to emulate WII and GC in a handheld which will not be heavy on my pocket )250$-300$) add up 6" screen and clickable joystick :) wondering if GPD will ever do it :(
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on April 14, 2018, 05:57:02 pm
GPD win 1 allows you that. Not all GC/WII games will be playble though, but they are not with an sd 821 either (some works ok, others are slow)
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Saber on May 29, 2018, 03:45:16 pm
Been awhile. :)

After noticing that slider concept for the XD2(which intrigues me more than the Win 2), I thought of how a basic minimal physical keyboard could be added.

(https://i.imgur.com/seMElUM.png)

Not expecting miracles, but if spacing permits and interest prevails, something like this version 3:

(https://i.imgur.com/4U6cwg8.png)

L3 and R3 somewhere.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: siegel17701 on June 04, 2018, 05:02:01 am
Been awhile. :)

After noticing that slider concept for the XD2(which intrigues me more than the Win 2), I thought of how a basic minimal physical keyboard could be added.

(https://i.imgur.com/seMElUM.png)

Not expecting miracles, but if spacing permits and interest prevails, something like this version 3:

(https://i.imgur.com/4U6cwg8.png)

L3 and R3 somewhere.
I asked GPD (on Facebook) and they said the have no interest in visiting the slider design. hopefully this changes, we will have to see. I wouldn't get my hopes up though.

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: AVahne on June 04, 2018, 07:24:48 am
Whether they ever release an XD2 and whether or not they use the slider design, I don't know if they would consider putting in a keyboard. I would LOVE for them to put in a keyboard, rather than shoving a blank space in our faces again, but they didn't seem too keen on doing it before.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Saber on June 06, 2018, 12:51:16 am
The slider concept must of been too complicated for them to make(and one of the reasons there aren't many/any on the market by anyone else). Maybe another day.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: SONY on June 06, 2018, 04:50:27 am
Maybe too many moving parts to consider?
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Sousaptak on June 09, 2018, 04:15:27 pm
I think the keyboard addition will only make the price go up, after all, GPD xd's sole purpose is gaming... frankly, if they increase the screen size to 6 inches, add clickable sticks and use a more powerful SOC, things will be better. many reviewers stated performance wise XD+ is not that much of an upgrade. they can look for SOC like SD 660,821 or the new MTK line-up to pack a punch, as PS2 emulation is now getting done on android.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: AVahne on June 10, 2018, 05:58:36 am
I think the keyboard addition will only make the price go up, after all, GPD xd's sole purpose is gaming... frankly, if they increase the screen size to 6 inches, add clickable sticks and use a more powerful SOC, things will be better. many reviewers stated performance wise XD+ is not that much of an upgrade. they can look for SOC like SD 660,821 or the new MTK line-up to pack a punch, as PS2 emulation is now getting done on android.


Qualcomm is pretty dickish to smaller companies and products they don't see as viable for their SoCs, so I really don't think we'll ever see a Snapdragon in an XD-type device.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: Saber on June 11, 2018, 11:41:06 am
Maybe too many moving parts to consider?
Maybe, but it could be that DS clone clamshells are the only accepted adopted style in this niche presently. I've always wanted a pocketable tablet with a screen that slides to reveal a physical keyboard, so I don't have to rely on screen tapping input, and then slides a bit more showing some "hidden" game controls. :)
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: MOFO on December 06, 2018, 05:55:13 am
Any news on the the XD 2? GPD has been pretty quiet with any updates.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: siegel17701 on December 06, 2018, 07:33:23 am
I think GPD is done with Android unfortunately

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: MOFO on December 06, 2018, 12:44:40 pm
Well thats pretty crappy news.
Are they just concentrating on the WIN now?
Thats really unfortunate if the XD+ is the last good android handheld, I liked that it is fairly affordable cmpared to the WIN 2 .
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on December 06, 2018, 02:14:11 pm
Well thats pretty crappy news.
Are they just concentrating on the WIN now?
Thats really unfortunate if the XD+ is the last good android handheld, I liked that it is fairly affordable cmpared to the WIN 2 .

Xd+ was not good. It has a screen refresh bug issue that makes accurate emulation for retrogaming worse than old XD. Only some emus like PPSSPP are slightly better than old Xd.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: dubsmachine on December 06, 2018, 02:30:09 pm
Well thats pretty crappy news.
Are they just concentrating on the WIN now?
Thats really unfortunate if the XD+ is the last good android handheld, I liked that it is fairly affordable cmpared to the WIN 2 .

Xd+ was not good. It has a screen refresh bug issue that makes accurate emulation for retrogaming worse than old XD. Only some emus like PPSSPP are slightly better than old Xd.
Yes it is disappointing that GPD did nothing to fix the issues with XD+.
Hoping Black Seraph will continue to work on this device  in the future.

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on December 06, 2018, 02:43:12 pm
The problem is that nobody know how to fix it. In kernel the screen is ok, so it must be a mtk SDK issue or something else. I suggested a couple of things but nobody compiled it I think. And I got retired so.... maybe Black Seraph do something in the future but I don't know.  I can understand GPD decide to go to windows devices, because they have been more profitable to them than android ones. XD was a good success, xd+  a big fail in sales as far as I know.

But who knows, maybe they decide to change their mind and release a "gaming phone" or something, but won't be soon for sure....
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: dubsmachine on December 06, 2018, 02:56:23 pm
I think xd+ would of sold better if they supported it more.
On so many forums I read people asking about it and most of the feedback was stick to original XD due to the issues with XD+.

The market is there but they kinda screwed themselves doing half a job.

It's a shame they could not get a top end Snapdragon or even Hauwei chip in it though would of avoided these issues plus given it a longer shelf life and increased sales.

I got the original GPD Win but sold it after a month and don't want to go that way in the future.

I hope if GPD don't come back with a killer android device someone else will.

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on December 06, 2018, 03:57:33 pm
I think xd+ would of sold better if they supported it more.
On so many forums I read people asking about it and most of the feedback was stick to original XD due to the issues with XD+.

The market is there but they kinda screwed themselves doing half a job.

It's a shame they could not get a top end Snapdragon or even Hauwei chip in it though would of avoided these issues plus given it a longer shelf life and increased sales.

I got the original GPD Win but sold it after a month and don't want to go that way in the future.

I hope if GPD don't come back with a killer android device someone else will.

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A high end snapdragon would be twice the price. I guess they decided MTK for that reason. Also, Qualcomm only sells in big quantities, something GPD cannot do. I personally prefer win devices. They are more expensive but emulation experience and Pc games is an incredibly plus.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: dubsmachine on December 06, 2018, 04:02:45 pm
Yeah I understand the reason for MTK and Snapdragon was not feasible but its a pity as the device feels short changed.

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Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on December 06, 2018, 04:08:08 pm
It was just a revision because they could no longer get Rockchip chips, probably people thought of xd+ as a XD2 and it was the big mistake. I personally for retrogaming prefer old Xd over xd+ in spite of being android 4.4. at least refresh rate and vsync is perfect for 8/16 bits and FBA. xd+ has the advantage of ppsspp a bit better and some games not supported by android 4.4, but android game catalogue is so poor that is not a big lost xD.
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: foxsevent on January 16, 2019, 11:23:37 pm
Just leaving this here FYI, the refresh bug was fixed in Black-Seraph CleanROM 2.0 which you can download now by becoming a patreon on his patreon page or just wait till February 1 for public release.
Also the refresh bug apparently had nothing to do with refresh rate, more details here.
http://xdrescue.com/cleanrom-v2-0-released/
Title: Re: GPD XD2
Post by: skelton on January 17, 2019, 11:35:33 am
Just leaving this here FYI, the refresh bug was fixed in Black-Seraph CleanROM 2.0 which you can download now by becoming a patreon on his patreon page or just wait till February 1 for public release.
Also the refresh bug apparently had nothing to do with refresh rate, more details here.
http://xdrescue.com/cleanrom-v2-0-released/

Well, it's related to HPS driver, but always was called refresh bug because it affected the screen refresh rate, though the screen rate wasn't the culprit at the beginning.
The very first firmware od xd+ had a Screen Refresh rate of 56,7 hz. After that LCD timings were chamged to current 59.97hz, but that wasn't enough. But anyhow, the refresh rate bug is a good name because in the end it was the main issue affected that made emulation not buttery smooth. Even so, after retesting an old XD I notice old XD even a little bit better in that sense, though that is something that 99.9 percent of people won't notice.