Author Topic: GPD XD vs GPD XD Plus (Read 16307 times)

KSS1992 · « **on:** April 02, 2018, 02:15:21 pm »

Thought it would be interesting if we put josh side by side and see the qualities of each, if anyone has any to add feel free

GPD XD Advantages:
-Skelton's Legacy Rom
-More configurable as a result, overclocking and etc
-Android kit kat if you're not a fan of newer android
-Refresh rate seemingly stable

GPD XD Disadvantages:
-Reports of weak wifi at times
-No longer given official updates by GPD I believe
-No bluetooth
-Reports of battery dying eventually (well this could be any device eventually but this device it cant be changed)

GPD XD Plus Advantages:
-Bluetooth
-Wifi 5GHZ ability (although ive heard its shotty at times)
-Possibility of rooting and rom development (not by the great Skelton who is much deservingly retired but possibly someone else)
- More Ram
- Faster processor
- Android 7 (meaning future softwares and games will be more supported and updated)

GPD XD Disadvatages:
-Refresh Rate Inconsistency issues reported on some prototypes (this could be just a prototype issue), this is not great if also reported on the actual device
-the new hardware/ram doesnt seem to give it THAT much of a push past the original's capability
-No custom Roms yet however possible from someone (again not Skelton)

xdplus fanatic-oopsy · « **Reply #1 on:** April 02, 2018, 05:45:20 pm »

again, if you can budget the additional cost, I would go with an XD+; for reasons listed in a different thread.

KSS1992 · « **Reply #2 on:** April 02, 2018, 05:56:33 pm »

Quote from: dreamesper on April 02, 2018, 05:45:20 pm

again, if you can budget the additional cost, I would go with an XD+; for reasons listed in a different thread.

Lol sorry for asking so many times. I edited my post to include just the list of qualities. The refresh rate is my only concern I like to run accurately with 60fps (on 60fps games of course)

Teddy_K · « **Reply #3 on:** April 04, 2018, 05:35:26 pm »

I got My XD Plus yesterday from GPDs official site. https://www.gpdxd.com/product/gpd-xd-plus-gamepad-black-32g/

I hope they do release a refresh rate fix for the plus. I noticed the SNES emulation was a bit off in Snes9X, I tried ePSXe and it ran great. I also ran NES emulation in RetroArch and it seemed decent. I still need to test GBA emulation.

Installed PubG Mobile and it ran smoother than on the old XD but the medium graphic settings breaks the game and you cant load it.

Doom GZ with the Brutal Doom mod (v21) is also running really well with less frame hitches and more options/features turned on. PPSSPP is better with Vulkan and more games are playable (Monster Hunter 3, Valkyria Chronicles 3).

The adoptable SD storage and ability to use the USB port for mounting the system to a PC for file transfer is great.

I use it with Caustic 3 for music stuff and the Nougat systems audio latency is good enough to use with MIDI keyboards and drum controllers.

I plan on rooting it, de-bloating the apps, and hooking it up to a TV and GameStreaming with Moonlight and a Xbox controller tonight.

One thing I need to do is see if Magisk can hide root from PS Vue to start the app.

Build quality is solid on mine. The buttons seem better but I had a pretty early version on the original XD. My old one had PS Vita style sticks the XD plus has a more grippy almost DualShock3 style domed textured stick. The hinge also locks into 2 separate places more like a 3DS where my older XD did not. buttons are higher and the D-pad seems better than on my old XD. Haven't dropped any WiFi connections but still need to test BT. Screen has less light bleed than the older one too.

So far I'm really loving the system.

xdplus fanatic-oopsy · « **Reply #4 on:** April 04, 2018, 06:12:21 pm »

wow, that's interesting to know about the grippier analogs & higher buttons above the shell. Glad to hear they adjusted that.

thx for your input.

PsyOps · « **Reply #5 on:** April 04, 2018, 06:48:34 pm »

Quote from: Teddy_K on April 04, 2018, 05:35:26 pm

I got My XD Plus yesterday from GPDs official site. https://www.gpdxd.com/product/gpd-xd-plus-gamepad-black-32g/

GPDXD.com is a subsite off of Willgoo.com. It is not official GPD. The site is a legit site, just not official GPD.

GPD's official site is actually off of aliexpress.com at : https://gpdshop.aliexpress.com/store/1281164

Teddy_K · « **Reply #6 on:** April 04, 2018, 07:27:53 pm »

Quote

GPDXD.com is a subsite off of Willgoo.com. It is not official GPD. The site is a legit site, just not official GPD.

PsyOps, Thanks for the correction, I was not aware of this. I had ordered my old XD from WillGoo, so I assumed it was GPDs official store when the unit was from GPDXD.com and the payment was going to Willgoo for the new one.

PsyOps · « **Reply #7 on:** April 04, 2018, 08:24:39 pm »

Yeh its weird how that works out. My original XD I also bought from gpdxd.com. I got scared because after really inspecting the site it was pretty shady. After sending an email and getting a reply from willgoo I understood what was going on. Wasn't until I received my xd that I was 100% sure though hehe.

KSS1992 · « **Reply #8 on:** April 04, 2018, 09:22:54 pm »

Quote from: Teddy_K on April 04, 2018, 05:35:26 pm

I got My XD Plus yesterday from GPDs official site. https://www.gpdxd.com/product/gpd-xd-plus-gamepad-black-32g/

I hope they do release a refresh rate fix for the plus. I noticed the SNES emulation was a bit off in Snes9X, I tried ePSXe and it ran great. I also ran NES emulation in RetroArch and it seemed decent. I still need to test GBA emulation.

Installed PubG Mobile and it ran smoother than on the old XD but the medium graphic settings breaks the game and you cant load it.

Doom GZ with the Brutal Doom mod (v21) is also running really well with less frame hitches and more options/features turned on. PPSSPP is better with Vulkan and more games are playable (Monster Hunter 3, Valkyria Chronicles 3).

The adoptable SD storage and ability to use the USB port for mounting the system to a PC for file transfer is great.

I use it with Caustic 3 for music stuff and the Nougat systems audio latency is good enough to use with MIDI keyboards and drum controllers.

I plan on rooting it, de-bloating the apps, and hooking it up to a TV and GameStreaming with Moonlight and a Xbox controller tonight.

One thing I need to do is see if Magisk can hide root from PS Vue to start the app.

Build quality is solid on mine. The buttons seem better but I had a pretty early version on the original XD. My old one had PS Vita style sticks the XD plus has a more grippy almost DualShock3 style domed textured stick. The hinge also locks into 2 separate places more like a 3DS where my older XD did not. buttons are higher and the D-pad seems better than on my old XD. Haven't dropped any WiFi connections but still need to test BT. Screen has less light bleed than the older one too.

So far I'm really loving the system.

This post is awesome! My fast tech order should be here soon hopefully, I also good for an update for the refresh rate issue. GPD apparently reads these forums and Skelton confirms they are talking to MTK about the issue so hopefully sooner than later

xdplus fanatic-oopsy · « **Reply #9 on:** April 04, 2018, 09:40:21 pm »

cool, good to know.

Teddy_K · « **Reply #10 on:** April 05, 2018, 09:54:33 pm »

Last night I rooted the XD Plus (thank you to PsyOps for the YouTube video) It wasn't the smoothest process but in the end, it worked fine.

I uninstalled the packed in emulators (most were out of date) and uninstalled happy chick and metro launcher (I use Nova dock-less with Stealth icons.)

Magisk Hide works great on PS Vue.

I ran Antutu and got around a 90k score and beat 30% of other devices tested. Take that for what you will though.

Used HDMI and BT with a Xbox One S controller along with Moonlight(rooted) using the H.265 encoding setting,I got around 22 milliseconds of latency (same as my original XD on H.264 oddly enough), its pretty solid for that purpose. Also ran some PPSSPP Monster Hunter 3 in TV mode just to see it. It seemed to run fine.

The screen stays on when using HDMI so that is a little bit more strain on the system and battery. I will probably install a screen dimmer for when I HDMI it to anything. (Night Mode beta)

After that I played PubG Mobile in handheld mode for an hour and the device was pretty hot. I saw what I believe was some thermal throttling but this was a pretty heavy test scenario. (gaming for around 4hrs with HDMI, BT enabled GameStreaming, emulators and a fairly demanding Android game.)

Rom Tools reported that the core was running at 1.7ghz so maybe its been down-clocked like the original XD?

I charged the device overnight to test the standby time. When I get home it'll be around 7 to 8 hrs of sleep mode for it and I will report back my findings.

Edit: after 8hrs of standby time the device drained 1 percent of the battery.

xdplus fanatic-oopsy · « **Reply #11 on:** April 05, 2018, 10:00:03 pm »

very cool, thx for the details.

votemarvel · « **Reply #12 on:** April 06, 2018, 03:04:42 am »

I'd go with the original XD at the moment because it can play native android games without a problem.

As I've mentioned in another thread games from Telltale are unplayable on the XD+ because of issues with the controls. The right analogue stick only moves left and right and L2 and R2 are the sticks up and down. You can't even use the touch controls because of a continual upward drift which means the physical controls are always on.

Sure I know that emulation is the primary purpose of the device but you'd think it'd be able to play android games as well as its older brother.

Teddy_K · « **Reply #13 on:** April 06, 2018, 05:19:35 am »

Votemarvel, did you try the game with the input mode set to ps3 joystick mode? Use the gamepad app to change the setting. It works 100% for me. The device is capable of using xinput and direct input methods. The Walking dead works with the PS3 mode fine. Xbox input does only go left and right with the right stick as you said.

votemarvel · « **Reply #14 on:** April 06, 2018, 11:03:32 am »

Teddy_K, you are a genius Sir.

Using the gamepad settings app honestly never occured to me and I likely would not have thought to check if not for your help.

Thanks again.

votemarvel · « **Reply #15 on:** April 06, 2018, 06:08:09 pm »

Now that my control issues are sorted I can report back on the XD+ a little more.

The wifi has proven very spotty indeed. The XD+ wouldn't even connect to the wifi at my workplace, I had to use my phone as a hotspot and then connect the XD+ to that and things worked even if they were a little slow.

I've only tested the bluetooth with an Xbox One controller but it paired up and worked fine, so if you did want to connect the XD+ to your TV for some two player gaming that would be very doable.

Some Telltale games though have huge issues. A New Frontier and their first Batman game have really messed up menus, when you finally can get into the games there are major graphical glitches to the point of being unplayable. The second Batman season has a menu that appears to be fine but in-game we are having a major case of the Ubisofts.

Alfred as you can see has looked better. Being Batman's butler is really working him to the bone.

I think there are definitely huge issues with the drivers for the XD+ as mentioned elsewhere on this board. I know for most people who get this device emulation is going to be the main function but I was really hoping for a decent experience with Android games as well. Sadly while the XD+ can technically run the titles I want, it isn't something I would want to even attempt until driver issues are sorted.

xdplus fanatic-oopsy · « **Reply #16 on:** April 06, 2018, 06:18:04 pm »

agreed; just gotta wait for more firmware releases & a future custom ROM from someone...

Skelton-retired · « **Reply #17 on:** April 06, 2018, 07:46:02 pm »

GPU userpace libraries are close sourced , not even GPD have them because they come in binary files precompiled usually, so unless MTK and powerVR improve their stuff.....

xdplus fanatic-oopsy · « **Reply #18 on:** April 06, 2018, 07:52:55 pm »

Personally? I think that the custom LEGACYROM you designed skelton was fantastic... but maybe, just maybe... not AS necessary as it needs to be for XD+ due to increased specs/power this time around, etc.

votemarvel · « **Reply #19 on:** April 06, 2018, 08:01:09 pm »

I think the XD+ is proving to be one of those things that prove I shouldn't be allowed on the internet when drunk.

This really has proven to be a real shame for me. I know this is just an incremental upgrade rather than a leap but I was really hoping for something a little better. Something where I could take all four seasons of The Walking Dead (when the last is released) on the road when I have to travel for work.

I'll probably fire up my old Linx Vision 8 Windows tablet and see how these games run on that. And yes it was another I shouldn't be on the internet when drunk purchase.

Hopefully work will continue on the driver by MTK and PowerVR. Do games and emulators have the same issues on phones which uses this chipset?

Author Topic: GPD XD vs GPD XD Plus (Read 16307 times)

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