Author Topic: GPD XD VIDEO Review vs N3ds XL, PPSSPP, ARCADE, Farcry 4 gamestream..  (Read 82878 times)

lemmywinks

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Re: GPD XD Review in progress Pics are Up!Comparison New 3ds xl
« Reply #20 on: August 10, 2015, 12:23:12 pm »
Personally I prefer the matte finish on the 3DS XL, in fact one criticism when the DSi XL was released was that they used a shiny finish on the lid instead of an all over matte finish. Looks good when you take it out of the box but it's a magnet for fingerprints and dust. I also find the less slippery surface easy to hold.

Actually that's not a bad point, how comfortable is the XD to hold? Are both the left analog and dpad in good positions and are both sets of shoulder buttons easy to access?

Pictures are looking good though, I'm pretty impressed with this so far so thanks!
Handhelds:
GPD Win, GPD XD 64gb, PlayGo, RS-90, 3DS XL, DSi XL, GBA SP, GBBC Clone, Gameboy Pocket c/w screen mod, PSP Go
PC:
Medion Erazer, Toshiba Z20t, Dell Mini 9, Psion 5MX
Tons of other old laptops and tablets.....

eragon2890

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Re: GPD XD Review in progress Pics are Up!Comparison New 3ds xl
« Reply #21 on: August 10, 2015, 12:24:58 pm »
Personally I prefer the matte finish on the 3DS XL, in fact one criticism when the DSi XL was released was that they used a shiny finish on the lid instead of an all over matte finish. Looks good when you take it out of the box but it's a magnet for fingerprints and dust. I also find the less slippery surface easy to hold.

Actually that's not a bad point, how comfortable is the XD to hold? Are both the left analog and dpad in good positions and are both sets of shoulder buttons easy to access?

Pictures are looking good though, I'm pretty impressed with this so far so thanks!

Oh thats a matter of taste, we were talking about build quality! Ie, amazingly, apparently , this thing is way sturdier/more solid then a 3ds xl , even this "test version"!

(No, i can barely believe it either...)

But good questions! Is it ergonomic?

nielo360 (OP)

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Re: GPD XD Review in progress Pics are Up!Comparison New 3ds xl Benchmarks.
« Reply #22 on: August 10, 2015, 12:27:32 pm »
posted benchmarks, few more tests to go

eragon2890

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Re: GPD XD Review in progress Pics are Up!Comparison New 3ds xl Benchmarks.
« Reply #23 on: August 10, 2015, 12:31:42 pm »
 :-X
posted benchmarks, few more tests to go

Wait that xiami it outperforms in antutu has a tegra k1!

That is.. Uh... *very interesting*.

Could you do antutu x instead? Antutu often gives false/too high results due to "cheating". Antutu x is more usefull then antutu.

skelton

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Re: GPD XD Review in progress Pics are Up!Comparison New 3ds xl Benchmarks.
« Reply #24 on: August 10, 2015, 01:28:37 pm »
Yep, antutu is cheated in Rockchip SDK. It gives about 10000 points more than real. Antutu X is the key. It should be about 34000, a bit less than GPD q9.
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Melquiades

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Re: GPD XD Review in progress Pics are Up!Comparison New 3ds xl Benchmarks.
« Reply #25 on: August 10, 2015, 01:51:33 pm »
I don't want to spoil the fun to anybody, but expecting a GPD to have the build quality or reliability of a Nintendo handheld is beyond unrealistic. GPDs are what they are, and considering what they are, they perform fine. But they are cheap because they are cheaply made, GPD cuts costs wherever possible. This has an effect on reliability and the fact that some consoles come reworked and that even devices sent for review or development have some issues is just proof that their production line is not exactly FoxConn?s.

There is no point in raising the issue of what fails more, GPDs, JXDs or Ipegas, at this stage we should probably be grateful that GPD still focuses on the Android handheld niche. Just don?t get overexcited.

« Last Edit: August 10, 2015, 01:54:15 pm by Melquiades »

nielo360 (OP)

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Re: GPD XD Review in progress Pics are Up!Comparison New 3ds xl Benchmarks.
« Reply #26 on: August 10, 2015, 02:48:54 pm »
I don't want to spoil the fun to anybody, but expecting a GPD to have the build quality or reliability of a Nintendo handheld is beyond unrealistic. GPDs are what they are, and considering what they are, they perform fine. But they are cheap because they are cheaply made, GPD cuts costs wherever possible. This has an effect on reliability and the fact that some consoles come reworked and that even devices sent for review or development have some issues is just proof that their production line is not exactly FoxConn?s.

There is no point in raising the issue of what fails more, GPDs, JXDs or Ipegas, at this stage we should probably be grateful that GPD still focuses on the Android handheld niche. Just don?t get overexcited.

While I understand why you may think that way, manufacturing quality does not always reflect cost as Im sure you already know. That being said this manufacture has evolved past what would be considered "cheap" knock offs with this particular device In my  opinion.

ips screen is excellent in terms of color reproduction, sound quality is loud and much better than any 3ds.

plastic mold is very well made and on par with the n3ds

dpad is a bit too small..the 3ds has a better dpad

attention to detail, screw covering is extremely well done its unlike any Chinese handheld (barring Oneplus) iv used.

Lock system, unlike the 3ds the device does not used 2 fixed lock points, the hinge is adjustable and sturdy at any position EDIT: This can be a problem in the long run as hinge may break in the future.


Analog sticks are a marvel of engineering in a handheld.. this is quiet shocking as sony's own vita handheld simply cant compete with the fluid stick movement.(they are using a modified version of sonys analogs)

however its not perfect and you are right about cost cutting when it comes to internals, blutooth for one 5ghz wifi, gps,camera.However I just mean the build itself.

if you do decide to invest in one at some point perhaps you might agree or disagree but I for one am pleasantly surprised so far as my last gpd review(q9) was quiet negative with regards to build quality. Ofcourse this is still a knock off and infringes on Nintendo patents in many ways thus can never be legal to sell in the US. That being said so far it surpasses "holding" a 3ds xl in my personal opinion.
« Last Edit: August 10, 2015, 03:42:13 pm by nielo360 »

skelton

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Re: GPD XD Review in progress Pics are Up!Comparison New 3ds xl Benchmarks.
« Reply #27 on: August 10, 2015, 02:53:42 pm »
Ufff, if you say that 3ds has a better dpad is a no go for me. 3DS dpad is not good for me at all (and too small). the dpad is essential for me because I never use analogs (except for some DC games). I think that Vita analogs are quite bad so the fact that are better is nice, but I think I will go on using my phone + ps3 controller as a "handheld"
« Last Edit: August 10, 2015, 02:56:52 pm by skelton »
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nielo360 (OP)

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Re: GPD XD Review in progress Pics are Up!Comparison New 3ds xl Benchmarks.
« Reply #28 on: August 10, 2015, 02:56:38 pm »
Ufff, if you say that 3ds has a better dpad is a no go for me. 3DS dpad is not good for me at all (and too small). It's nice that analogs are fine but the dpad is essential for me because I never use analogs (except for some DC games). I think I will go on using my phone + ps3 controller as a "handheld"

The dpad is good in terms of use but I have large hands and I dont find the size comfortable, I will show it off in the video with various tests, but Im quiet sure ill replace it with a bigger size dpad mod. A ps3/ps4 dpad is superior to pretty much anything even in mainstream consoles except for the q9.
« Last Edit: August 10, 2015, 02:59:20 pm by nielo360 »

eragon2890

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Re: GPD XD Review in progress Pics are Up!Comparison New 3ds xl Benchmarks.
« Reply #29 on: August 10, 2015, 03:04:07 pm »
I don't want to spoil the fun to anybody, but expecting a GPD to have the build quality or reliability of a Nintendo handheld is beyond unrealistic. GPDs are what they are, and considering what they are, they perform fine. But they are cheap because they are cheaply made, GPD cuts costs wherever possible. This has an effect on reliability and the fact that some consoles come reworked and that even devices sent for review or development have some issues is just proof that their production line is not exactly FoxConn?s.

There is no point in raising the issue of what fails more, GPDs, JXDs or Ipegas, at this stage we should probably be grateful that GPD still focuses on the Android handheld niche. Just don?t get overexcited.

While I understand why you may think that way, manufacturing quality does not always reflect cost as Im sure you already know. That being said this manufacture has evolved past what would be considered "cheap" knock offs with this particular device In my  opinion.

ips screen is excellent in terms of color reproduction, sound quality is loud and much better than any 3ds.

plastic mold is very well made and on par with the n3ds

dpad is a bit too small..the 3ds has a better dpad

attention to detail, screw covering is extremely well done its unlike any Chinese handheld (barring Oneplus) iv used.

Lock system, unlike the 3ds the device does not used 2 fixed lock points, the hinge is adjustable and sturdy at any position


Analog sticks are a marvel of engineering in a handheld.. this is quiet shocking as sony's own vita handheld simply cant compete with the fluid stick movement.(they are using a modified version of sonys analogs)

however its not perfect and you are right about cost cutting when it comes to internals, blutooth for one 5ghz wifi, gps,camera.However I just mean the build itself.

if you do decide to invest in one at some point perhaps you might agree or disagree but I for one am pleasantly surprised so far as my last gpd review(q9) was quiet negative with regards to build quality. Ofcourse this is still a knock off and infringes on Nintendo patents in many ways thus can never be legal to sell in the US. That being said so far it surpasses "holding" a 3ds xl in my personal opinion.

Hm... I did not like the dpad on the 3ds that much, but it was usable... The one on the new 3ds is way better IMHO.

That being said, is the dpad at least precise/fluid/does it stay on it's axis (especially for diagonals i mean?)

Also, when will we have delicious video?

Thanks for all the great work/information! :-)

eragon2890

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Re: GPD XD Review in progress Pics are Up!Comparison New 3ds xl Benchmarks.
« Reply #30 on: August 10, 2015, 03:23:38 pm »
I don't want to spoil the fun to anybody, but expecting a GPD to have the build quality or reliability of a Nintendo handheld is beyond unrealistic. GPDs are what they are, and considering what they are, they perform fine. But they are cheap because they are cheaply made, GPD cuts costs wherever possible. This has an effect on reliability and the fact that some consoles come reworked and that even devices sent for review or development have some issues is just proof that their production line is not exactly FoxConn?s.

There is no point in raising the issue of what fails more, GPDs, JXDs or Ipegas, at this stage we should probably be grateful that GPD still focuses on the Android handheld niche. Just don?t get overexcited.

While I understand why you may think that way, manufacturing quality does not always reflect cost as Im sure you already know. That being said this manufacture has evolved past what would be considered "cheap" knock offs with this particular device In my  opinion.

ips screen is excellent in terms of color reproduction, sound quality is loud and much better than any 3ds.

plastic mold is very well made and on par with the n3ds

dpad is a bit too small..the 3ds has a better dpad

attention to detail, screw covering is extremely well done its unlike any Chinese handheld (barring Oneplus) iv used.

Lock system, unlike the 3ds the device does not used 2 fixed lock points, the hinge is adjustable and sturdy at any position


Analog sticks are a marvel of engineering in a handheld.. this is quiet shocking as sony's own vita handheld simply cant compete with the fluid stick movement.(they are using a modified version of sonys analogs)

however its not perfect and you are right about cost cutting when it comes to internals, blutooth for one 5ghz wifi, gps,camera.However I just mean the build itself.

if you do decide to invest in one at some point perhaps you might agree or disagree but I for one am pleasantly surprised so far as my last gpd review(q9) was quiet negative with regards to build quality. Ofcourse this is still a knock off and infringes on Nintendo patents in many ways thus can never be legal to sell in the US. That being said so far it surpasses "holding" a 3ds xl in my personal opinion.

Nope, legal to sell i the usa. The most that could happen is nintendo sueing them. But definitely not criminal persecution.

I am not from the usa, but i looked it up and found this: http://intellectualpropertiesfirm.com/conterfiet-vs-knockof/

There is no fake brand anywhere, in fact the thing / promotion screams as hard as it can that it's made by gpd.

Hell, as soon as you open it its totally and fundamentally different to a 3ds in basically every way (one screen, dual joysticks, about 8 more buttons, speakers in a different place and so on), and even on the outside it's not even an exact copy. No fake game card slot, it has hdmi, different usb port. At to all of this that their is no attempt whatsoever to brand it as an actualm3ds, and nope, definitely not illegal, assuming that law firm is correct...

lemmywinks

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Re: GPD XD Review in progress Pics are Up!Comparison New 3ds xl Benchmarks.
« Reply #31 on: August 10, 2015, 03:28:22 pm »
3DS dpad is awful for me due the positioning more than anything, this has the dpad situated further in where the thumb naturally falls so hopefully it will be comfortable. I'm fine with a DSi XL and I'm getting a 3DS XL tomorrow so I expect that to be a bit better.

Also I wouldn't be surprised if this is actually as well made as these early impressions imply. These consoles are usually ?60-?80 so it's actually not really a cheap device considering what you can get for circa ?100/$150 these days. A decent 5" screen will be pretty cheap to bulk buy as that's what every phone uses these days.
Handhelds:
GPD Win, GPD XD 64gb, PlayGo, RS-90, 3DS XL, DSi XL, GBA SP, GBBC Clone, Gameboy Pocket c/w screen mod, PSP Go
PC:
Medion Erazer, Toshiba Z20t, Dell Mini 9, Psion 5MX
Tons of other old laptops and tablets.....

vcoleiro1

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Re: GPD XD Review in progress Pics are Up!Comparison New 3ds xl Benchmarks.
« Reply #32 on: August 10, 2015, 03:28:49 pm »
I must admit I was turned off when I found out this didn't have clickable sticks.  For FPS games , that's vital.

But I'm glad to see its looking good for what it is.  I'm sure a lot of other people will be happy with it.
« Last Edit: August 10, 2015, 03:31:33 pm by vcoleiro1 »

eragon2890

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Re: GPD XD Review in progress Pics are Up!Comparison New 3ds xl Benchmarks.
« Reply #33 on: August 10, 2015, 03:30:32 pm »
I must admit I was turned off when I found out this didn't have clickable sticks.  For FPS games , that's vital.

But I'm glad to see its looking good in what it is.

It has separate l3 and r3, and you can alwayw reverse these via easy softmodding so you can ish the button and its stick at the same time :-)

vcoleiro1

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Re: GPD XD Review in progress Pics are Up!Comparison New 3ds xl Benchmarks.
« Reply #34 on: August 10, 2015, 03:33:45 pm »
I must admit I was turned off when I found out this didn't have clickable sticks.  For FPS games , that's vital.

But I'm glad to see its looking good in what it is.

It has separate l3 and r3, and you can alwayw reverse these via easy softmodding so you can ish the button and its stick at the same time :-)

I know it does, totally not the same as having clickable sticks though.  It's a vast difference having to take your thumb of the stick to press a seperate button.

eragon2890

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Re: GPD XD Review in progress Pics are Up!Comparison New 3ds xl Benchmarks.
« Reply #35 on: August 10, 2015, 03:35:12 pm »
I must admit I was turned off when I found out this didn't have clickable sticks.  For FPS games , that's vital.

But I'm glad to see its looking good in what it is.

It has separate l3 and r3, and you can alwayw reverse these via easy softmodding so you can ish the button and its stick at the same time :-)

I know it does, totally not the same as having clickable sticks though.  It's a vast difference having to take your thumb of the stick to press a seperate button.

Uhm, if you switch them, you dont have too! You can then keep thumb on left stick and push l3 at the same time and vice versa :-)

vcoleiro1

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Re: GPD XD Review in progress Pics are Up!Comparison New 3ds xl Benchmarks.
« Reply #36 on: August 10, 2015, 03:38:32 pm »
I must admit I was turned off when I found out this didn't have clickable sticks.  For FPS games , that's vital.

But I'm glad to see its looking good in what it is.

It has separate l3 and r3, and you can alwayw reverse these via easy softmodding so you can ish the button and its stick at the same time :-)

I know it does, totally not the same as having clickable sticks though.  It's a vast difference having to take your thumb of the stick to press a seperate button.

Uhm, if you switch them, you dont have too! You can then keep thumb on left stick and push l3 at the same time and vice versa :-)


Sorry what your saying isn't coming across clear.  Are you saying the l3 and r3 buttons can be switched to the rear corner trigger buttons which you can access with your fingers while keeping your thumbs on both sticks?

eragon2890

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Re: GPD XD Review in progress Pics are Up!Comparison New 3ds xl Benchmarks.
« Reply #37 on: August 10, 2015, 03:45:51 pm »
I must admit I was turned off when I found out this didn't have clickable sticks.  For FPS games , that's vital.

But I'm glad to see its looking good in what it is.

It has separate l3 and r3, and you can alwayw reverse these via easy softmodding so you can ish the button and its stick at the same time :-)

I know it does, totally not the same as having clickable sticks though.  It's a vast difference having to take your thumb of the stick to press a seperate button.

Uhm, if you switch them, you dont have too! You can then keep thumb on left stick and push l3 at the same time and vice versa :-)


Sorry what your saying isn't coming across clear.  Are you saying the l3 and r3 buttons can be switched to the rear corner trigger buttons which you can access with your fingers while keeping your thumbs on both sticks?

I meant l3 becomes r3 and vice versa, but that should be passabel too! Hell from what i heard youshould be able to change a config sowhere to even make the volume buttons l3 and r3 or the android navigation buttons if you would want...

nielo360 (OP)

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Re: GPD XD Review in progress Pics are Up!Comparison New 3ds xl Benchmarks.
« Reply #38 on: August 10, 2015, 03:46:15 pm »
I edited my post regarding the hinge, it is sturdy so far but there is some creaking when opening and closing, in the long run this may or may not be a problem, usually creaking means that its screwed in too tight which does not give enough relief to the hinge plate while opening. So far no problem.

eragon2890

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Re: GPD XD Review in progress Pics are Up!Comparison New 3ds xl Benchmarks.
« Reply #39 on: August 10, 2015, 03:48:26 pm »
I edited my post regarding the hinge, it is sturdy so far but there is some creaking when opening and closing, in the long run this may or may not be a problem, usually creaking means that its screwed in too tight which does not give enough relief to the hinge plate while opening. So far no problem.

Okay, but usually also means it becomes looser after abit of usage right? Better this then that its too loose and falls of.

Plus willgoo unit had this as well and they said it would be better/fixed in the final version as these are still testing units. (Yours is too, right?)

 

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