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omnitrix152 (OP)

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GPD XD + Final Inquiry - Insights Needed.
« on: May 12, 2018, 11:48:10 pm »
Hey guys hope your all doing good.

So its been a year and a half since I have posted on here, last time I was here I was inquiring about my jxd s5800 and how it was a hopeless device lols. Later I came back and asked about the new XD device being announced thinking it would release a year ago but for me in the UK its literally only being released next week ... I want to get back into android handheld gaming as I believe theres a small but gem of a community here. So I started doing research again and its clear the XD + hasnt changed at all on the outside in comparison to the XD which is fine, but the change is from the inside with the specs?

So my question is can you guys educate me? what specs go into how well an android device is good for gaming? I know theres RAM which the XD + has a massive 4GB of so im sure it would be compatible with everything about now, but what else?

The reason I ask is because im ready to purchase, and enjoy my summer with this badboy device. Also if anyone has encountered any known issues with the device in terms of gaming please do share.

Thankyou

PsyOps

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Re: GPD XD + Final Inquiry - Insights Needed.
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2018, 06:13:08 am »
Its all out there bud. Do a search on this forum or you can look in:

https://www.reddit.com/r/gpdxd/

Facebook groups that you may want to join:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/gpdxd/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/2050559771834939/

Discord channels:
https://discord.gg/Qb3f6WV
https://discord.gg/x9mxnJ
https://discord.gg/Zt3Jxk

The brief answer is: It isn't what people expected, and people almost favor the xd over xd+. ( the ones that have owned both). Once dev starts on xd+ that may change.
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omnitrix152 (OP)

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Re: GPD XD + Final Inquiry - Insights Needed.
« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2018, 05:47:32 pm »
Thats bs how can the XD be favoured over the XD+? its the same thing but with just way higher specs. Also you didnt answer my question about which specs go into account with gaming compatibility, I know RAM is one of them but I dont know about which others go into it aswell ... The reason I ask is because im curious to see how powerful the XD+ is amongst all other android gaming handhelds ?

Nikojiro

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Re: GPD XD + Final Inquiry - Insights Needed.
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2018, 08:51:22 am »
It's not BS mind you, there's been a lot of discussion.

Now I believe things should be put in perspective. Every new device has some little flaws, and the original XD had some. Updates from GPD ans later LegacyROM turned it into a really great device. Now the XD+ sports some major changes: totally different chipset, Android 7. It's pretty much a new device under the hood, so some issues are to be expected.

I own both the XD and XD+. From what I understand there are issues with the video driver on the XD+ that make the framerate unusable with some emulators. Personnally I have grown fond of my XD+. The only things broken for me are the Saturn emulation (no too big a deal as it's not a system I emulate so often) and some native titles that won't work on Android 7 (or rather with the ART virtual machine) such as Chaos Rings. I have not experienced framerate issues with my emulators (I use RetroArch and Mupen64 FZ 99% of the time) at all.

Otherwise I find that the increase in performance, while not stellar, is noticeable. For instance I have absolutely zero slowdown on PS1, and I can use more complex shaders in RetroArch. Also I have great performance in Mupen64 with crisp graphics: native resolution rendering was a no go on the XD. Lastly some native games such as Star Wars Kotor that used to lag a bit on the XD are much more fluid on the XD+. I also find that the XD+ screen is better than the previous one, brighter and more contrasted.

So I'd say that the small issues are nitpicks compared to the advantages. At least for my usage.The only issue I find annoying is that bluetooth audio lags, it's completely unusable. But BT audio is a hit-and-miss on Android in my experience. I understand that Android 8 has much better BT implementation, especially the ability to use better codecs.

So, to summarize, if you already own an XD, whether or not to upgrade is subject to some thinking. If you're willing to get an up-to-date Android based console, I'd recommend going for the XD+, especially since custom development has already started.

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Re: GPD XD + Final Inquiry - Insights Needed.
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2018, 09:38:59 am »
So I'd say that the small issues are nitpicks compared to the advantages. At least for my usage.The only issue I find annoying is that bluetooth audio lags, it's completely unusable. But BT audio is a hit-and-miss on Android in my experience. I understand that Android 8 has much better BT implementation, especially the ability to use better codecs.

You should try maybe changing the antenna. Do you have the same type of sputter with wifi? they share the antenna.

My prototype came with a very very crappy antenna. I think maybe it was soldered badly. I changed the antenna and I now get a good wifi signal and the bluetooth works ok, although i did notice some sputter. I am wondering if its how i positioned it in the case though. I ran it through the hinge ( its longer ) and I coiled it behind the screen. Thinking in bluetooth and how the screen would be between me and the antenna I am probably ganna reposition it so it outlines the screen and I can catch the signal from the screen edge.

This is antenna I used: https://www.ebay.com/itm/IPEX-MHF4-Antenna-WiFi-Cable-for-NGFF-M-2-WIFI-WLAN-Card-3G-4G-LTE-WWAN-Module/272241566349?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

Just keep in mind the connector is MHF4 and you can find more options im sure.

Anyhow with the regular release XD+ I have, the audio never stuttered playing a song twice. The prototype sputtered sometimes, but like i said i suspect it was how i positioned antenna.

Nikojiro

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Re: GPD XD + Final Inquiry - Insights Needed.
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2018, 01:22:40 pm »
Anyhow with the regular release XD+ I have, the audio never stuttered playing a song twice. The prototype sputtered sometimes, but like i said i suspect it was how i positioned antenna.

Hi, no it's not stuttering, but lag, e.g. audio delay. There is no stuttering if I listen to music, but over BT the sound output is delayed (nearly 1s!). It happens whenever I watch a video or play games / emulators. I have the same issue on my phone, a little less severe. It's most probably a software issue, since I'm absolutely sure that both headsets I tested support AptX codec, but it's not supported by the roms, or if it is I have no way to make sure it's used. Android Oreo has a new BT configuration options that allow this. On previous Android versions it depends whether your ROM supports the codecs, if it's the case usually you can choose in the developer options.

AFAIK there's no such option in the XD+ dev options.

PsyOps

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Re: GPD XD + Final Inquiry - Insights Needed.
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2018, 04:59:51 pm »
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