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Other Portable Consoles => GPD Android Devices => Topic started by: PaulFoster on May 18, 2016, 03:33:11 pm
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Hiya,
My gpd xd charger just fried (luckily the device wasn't plugged into it at the time) and I need to know how to charge it safely??
I've been reading lots of sites but they seem to conflict, some say you can charge from usb2 or 3 some say no usb at all and some even say using usb3 or a ipad usb charger will kill your gpdxd!!!!!
What is correct, what do I believe? how do I charge my device safely?
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I charge it with many chargers, no problem at all.
Chargers work from iPad, iPhone, Chuwi HI12 tablet and several power banks.... It even charges faster with a Qualcomm certified fast charger from blitzwolf.
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you can charge the device with most phone chargers. the GPD XD's charger has 5volts / 2.5 ampere. All of the phone and tablet chargers use 5 volts but they range in amps so 2.5 amps (2500 milliampere) or lower will work. the output volts/amps are usually written on the charger itself.
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you can charge the device with most phone chargers. the GPD XD's charger has 5volts / 2.5 ampere. All of the phone and tablet chargers use 5 volts but they range in amps so 2.5 amps (2500 milliampere) or lower will work. the output volts/amps are usually written on the charger itself.
Amusingly I don't have a mobile phone (mainly down to the fact you can't seem to buy one without a damn camera on it)
how much voltage do usb2 and usb3 sockets output? can I safely charge it from my PC?
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I charge it with many chargers, no problem at all.
Chargers work from iPad, iPhone, Chuwi HI12 tablet and several power banks.... It even charges faster with a Qualcomm certified fast charger from blitzwolf.
okay thanks.. so a lot of what I've been reading is pure lies or stupidity then. thank you
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Be careful in what charger you use.. Unlike most other devices, the GPD seems to have flaws in its charging circuitry/protection. A few people have fried their GPD because they were using the Samsung "Fast Charger"
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Be careful in what charger you use.. Unlike most other devices, the GPD seems to have flaws in its charging circuitry/protection. A few people have fried their GPD because they were using the Samsung "Fast Charger"
yup fast chargers are not the greatest idea but standard usb chargers with up to 2.5 amps will do fine. higher amp chargers will make the battery charge faster but have a detrimental impact on battery life. A very high current can even damage devices missing a good charging protection.
you can charge the device with most phone chargers. the GPD XD's charger has 5volts / 2.5 ampere. All of the phone and tablet chargers use 5 volts but they range in amps so 2.5 amps (2500 milliampere) or lower will work. the output volts/amps are usually written on the charger itself.
Amusingly I don't have a mobile phone (mainly down to the fact you can't seem to buy one without a damn camera on it)
how much voltage do usb2 and usb3 sockets output? can I safely charge it from my PC?
Of course you can charge it from your PC's usb ports but this will take REALLY long (the max power output on a USB2.0 port is 900mA or 0.9 Ampere)
Just get a generic usb charger with 2amps or 2.5 amps output and it should work fine.
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Of course you can charge it from your PC's usb ports but this will take REALLY long (the max power output on a USB2.0 port is 900mA or 0.9 Ampere)
Actually I think USB 2.0 is rated @500mA and USB 3.0 @900mA from a PC. Which is why when the iPad came out they didn't like charging from a standard USB port.
I have a 2.5A charger I use for my Q9 and while the battery seems weaker now that's probably related more to the heavy use and not the charger. A 1-1.5A charger might be better for these batteries.
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Of course you can charge it from your PC's usb ports but this will take REALLY long (the max power output on a USB2.0 port is 900mA or 0.9 Ampere)
Actually I think USB 2.0 is rated @500mA and USB 3.0 @900mA from a PC. Which is why when the iPad came out they didn't like charging from a standard USB port.
I have a 2.5A charger I use for my Q9 and while the battery seems weaker now that's probably related more to the heavy use and not the charger. A 1-1.5A charger might be better for these batteries.
You're right usb 2.0 has a max power output of 500mA . USB 3.0 has 900mA.
Made a typo. my bad.
Either way charging from a usb port is really slow. Power output is so low that many devices do not charge at all (or appear to be charging but draining the battery faster than it's charging.)
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There is quite a bit of misinformation going on with USB chargers but here is some simple things to keep in mind.
1. Devices are only going to pull up to what they are rated for if a device pulls a max of 1.5 amps AMD you plug it into a 2.4 it's not going to pull 2.4 and burn out.
2. If your device dose not support fast charge it will not use fast charge.
3. The quality of your charger is important some chargers from China don't meet regulations and can be wired wrong and cause harm to your devices.
4.don't leave your devices constantly plugged in this will degrade the battery life.
5. USB cables can affect how your devices charge.
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There is quite a bit of misinformation going on with USB chargers but here is some simple things to keep in mind.
1. Devices are only going to pull up to what they are rated for if a device pulls a max of 1.5 amps AMD you plug it into a 2.4 it's not going to pull 2.4 and burn out.
2. If your device dose not support fast charge it will not use fast charge.
3. The quality of your charger is important some chargers from China don't meet regulations and can be wired wrong and cause harm to your devices.
4.don't leave your devices constantly plugged in this will degrade the battery life.
5. USB cables can affect how your devices charge.
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As for point 4, more importantly, they can also cause harm to the only thing I like more then my GPD XD, namely my life and my house. You know, when they burn and explode and such~
And yes, that included the piece-of-trash-made-for-the-landfill-shitheap "charger" they supply with the GPD XD. Bin in. If you don't want to ruin your device and MAYBE burn your house down, possibly with all it's inhabitants.
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There is quite a bit of misinformation going on with USB chargers but here is some simple things to keep in mind.
1. Devices are only going to pull up to what they are rated for if a device pulls a max of 1.5 amps AMD you plug it into a 2.4 it's not going to pull 2.4 and burn out.
2. If your device dose not support fast charge it will not use fast charge.
3. The quality of your charger is important some chargers from China don't meet regulations and can be wired wrong and cause harm to your devices.
4.don't leave your devices constantly plugged in this will degrade the battery life.
5. USB cables can affect how your devices charge.
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For No 2. that depends on the hardware that the charger is connected to. Usually (hopefully) it will only pull in what is required and pull more if required (supported). With the GPD XD, there seems to be some issue with the pulling of the extra power.
Various people have reported the same issue of the device battery circuitry malfunctioning (brick, no charge) when a fast charger is used.
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Just ordered another GPD XD (Droidbox Playon) rebranded one for ?135. Just hope that this one does not break down as the other one did and that the seal is intact this time. (or perhaps droidbox open the seal and remove the GPD branding from the device and put it back in? (as the box is the same as the original GPD XD)
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Just ordered another GPD XD (Droidbox Playon) rebranded one for ?135. Just hope that this one does not break down as the other one did and that the seal is intact this time. (or perhaps droidbox open the seal and remove the GPD branding from the device and put it back in? (as the box is the same as the original GPD XD)
Umh, just a question but, on their website I see one other person in the review who first got a broken one, had it replaced and was quite happy. If it breaks that quickly, they should just replace it for free right? Why buy another one?
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Just ordered another GPD XD (Droidbox Playon) rebranded one for ?135. Just hope that this one does not break down as the other one did and that the seal is intact this time. (or perhaps droidbox open the seal and remove the GPD branding from the device and put it back in? (as the box is the same as the original GPD XD)
Umh, just a question but, on their website I see one other person in the review who first got a broken one, had it replaced and was quite happy. If it breaks that quickly, they should just replace it for free right? Why buy another one?
Indeed i got a refund (From Amazon) and sent the broken device back already.
Could not really find an alternative handheld as good as this GPD XD (and i was impatient and wanted next day delivery) hence ordered from that same place again. (Will just make sure that i do not use that charger supplied or any fast charger - (which does destroy the gpd - try it :-||) Will probably use the USB on the PC to charge it - will be slower, but better to be safe i guess.
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Just ordered another GPD XD (Droidbox Playon) rebranded one for ?135. Just hope that this one does not break down as the other one did and that the seal is intact this time. (or perhaps droidbox open the seal and remove the GPD branding from the device and put it back in? (as the box is the same as the original GPD XD)
A friend saw mine and ordered one that night, anyway it arrived yesterday and he's not sure whether to use it or send it back. same problem, the seal on the box is broken so you don't know if its a used one or whatever. I told him to return it but he's thinking it over.
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Just ordered another GPD XD (Droidbox Playon) rebranded one for ?135. Just hope that this one does not break down as the other one did and that the seal is intact this time. (or perhaps droidbox open the seal and remove the GPD branding from the device and put it back in? (as the box is the same as the original GPD XD)
A friend saw mine and ordered one that night, anyway it arrived yesterday and he's not sure whether to use it or send it back. same problem, the seal on the box is broken so you don't know if its a used one or whatever. I told him to return it but he's thinking it over.
If it works fine I would keep it, I assume they test whether they work before sending them to costumers, which explains ti and is something you WANT. :)
Geekbuying and willgoo do that too AFAIK. And going by the reviews they do have a real money-back-guarantee if it doesn't work. If it works, I say keep it. YOu might get a DOA otherwise, never know :)
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Just ordered another GPD XD (Droidbox Playon) rebranded one for ?135. Just hope that this one does not break down as the other one did and that the seal is intact this time. (or perhaps droidbox open the seal and remove the GPD branding from the device and put it back in? (as the box is the same as the original GPD XD)
A friend saw mine and ordered one that night, anyway it arrived yesterday and he's not sure whether to use it or send it back. same problem, the seal on the box is broken so you don't know if its a used one or whatever. I told him to return it but he's thinking it over.
Did he get it from Droidbox as well (Marketed as the PlayOn)? When i recieved my first one, the seal was broken, however when taking the device out from its bag, it looked immaculate (no fingerprints etc)
When it broke down after charging, i simply requested refund via amazon (who did refund me) and sent the device back.
Ordered from the same place again (Cheaper by ?40 and same day delivery via amazon) Should recieve another one this evening. Will report back if the seal is open again.
If there are any issues again with this, i will contact the seller directly (and request a refund via amazon again)
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Received the GPD today from Droidbox (This time there was no seal) although again the GPD seemed untouched. Firmware on 3.3.8. seems to be working quite well so far (Not tried charging it yet.. ) Seems to be an issue with Wi-fi, (although the previous one had similar issues as well). Connection starts strong, then gets weak after a while and seems to fluctuate between no transfer to low bandwidth until i let it rest for a while and then start downloading again.
More than likely a firmware issue perhaps...
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Tried LegacyRom 1.8. Runs perfectly and wifi issues fixed. None of the dubious stuff as in the stock roms :-)
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Tried LegacyRom 1.8. Runs perfectly and wifi issues fixed. None of the dubious stuff as in the stock roms :-)
could you give me a link to that firmware please? I don't want to download the wrong thing.
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Tried LegacyRom 1.8. Runs perfectly and wifi issues fixed. None of the dubious stuff as in the stock roms :-)
could you give me a link to that firmware please? I don't want to download the wrong thing.
here is the thread
http://boards.dingoonity.org/gpd-devices/(rom)-legacyrom-kitkat-for-gpd-xd/
If you dont want your device to heat due to overclocking you can select the 1.4ghz version. (Although you can always download the 1.8ghz version and change the speed after via a cpu control tool
Bear in mind that unlike the stock version, you will need to configure everything from scratch and download the emulators manually.
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Tried LegacyRom 1.8. Runs perfectly and wifi issues fixed. None of the dubious stuff as in the stock roms :-)
could you give me a link to that firmware please? I don't want to download the wrong thing.
here is the thread
http://boards.dingoonity.org/gpd-devices/(rom)-legacyrom-kitkat-for-gpd-xd/
If you dont want your device to heat due to overclocking you can select the 1.4ghz version. (Although you can always download the 1.8ghz version and change the speed after via a cpu control tool
Bear in mind that unlike the stock version, you will need to configure everything from scratch and download the emulators manually.
Thanks for that. I've just been reading it and heck it seems rather complex. I'm a little timid of doing it now and I'm not totally new to flashing firmware, I modded me and my friends Wii's without issue. I'll go and see if I can find a step-by-step guide on youtube or something.
as for the emulators, I use standalone emulators anyway so no problem with that.
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Even if something goes wrong, i think the GPD XD is pretty much unbrickable when using that rockchip tool. Only issue perhaps may be if you take out the cable while it is writing to the bootloader (if it even does) and bootloader may not be changed anyhow.
When you do that Volume+ and plugging of the USB for the first time, wait till the drivers are loaded (Make sure you install the drivers first - this is in a folder in the legacy roms archive. You may then have to unplug the usb cable, then hold volume+ and connect the USB again for the green light to be on the GUI of the rockchip tool.
I have tried the 1.8ghz legacy rom and no issues at all (Bear in mind that it only reaches 1.8hz if it has to in high cpu usage emulators etc)
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Thanks.
I think I'll 'play it safe' and opt for the middle option, 1.6ghz. :)
Can't find any step-by-step guides on youtube so I will read that page a good 6-7 times before I try to do it.
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Received the GPD today from Droidbox (This time there was no seal) although again the GPD seemed untouched. Firmware on 3.3.8. seems to be working quite well so far (Not tried charging it yet.. ) Seems to be an issue with Wi-fi, (although the previous one had similar issues as well). Connection starts strong, then gets weak after a while and seems to fluctuate between no transfer to low bandwidth until i let it rest for a while and then start downloading again.
More than likely a firmware issue perhaps...
what charger are you using right now? I have been using a standard samsung 2.0 A charger for 10 months without any issues charging it daily. I can recommend that (the standard, cheap, 2.0 A samsung charger, NOT any other higer amp ones ) if you are now charging it via usb, since that takes forever. On the other hand, it also lasts forever, so it might not be a problem for you.
One thing: I believe this should not happen anymore, but do not turn of the device while it is in the charger. You can charge it in standby, or first turn it off and THEN connect it to the charger after it's off, but putting it in the charger and then turning it off while it is charging and letting it lie for a few hours was a pretty sure way of frying at least the first batch(es) - GPD said so themselves. It should be fixed in hardware long ago, but you never know, so just saying' :)
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Received the GPD today from Droidbox (This time there was no seal) although again the GPD seemed untouched. Firmware on 3.3.8. seems to be working quite well so far (Not tried charging it yet.. ) Seems to be an issue with Wi-fi, (although the previous one had similar issues as well). Connection starts strong, then gets weak after a while and seems to fluctuate between no transfer to low bandwidth until i let it rest for a while and then start downloading again.
More than likely a firmware issue perhaps...
what charger are you using right now? I have been using a standard samsung 2.0 A charger for 10 months without any issues charging it daily. I can recommend that (the standard, cheap, 2.0 A samsung charger, NOT any other higer amp ones ) if you are now charging it via usb, since that takes forever. On the other hand, it also lasts forever, so it might not be a problem for you.
One thing: I believe this should not happen anymore, but do not turn of the device while it is in the charger. You can charge it in standby, or first turn it off and THEN connect it to the charger after it's off, but putting it in the charger and then turning it off while it is charging and letting it lie for a few hours was a pretty sure way of frying at least the first batch(es) - GPD said so themselves. It should be fixed in hardware long ago, but you never know, so just saying' :)
I recieved the second GPD device yesterday and all is working well so far. Currently have only charged it via PC USB port and will use a standard non-fast charger if charging it via wall outlet.
Using a fast charger according to various sources on other devices has also destroyed other devices (not just tablets) due to some issue with communication between device and charger (or some fast chargers test resistance and provide the higher voltage). The main culprit in this case seems to be the Samsing Fast Charger (E.g one that comes with the Galaxy S6) - Do not use this on the GPD XD!! If you believe this is not true, try it and see the GPD device break.
I am aware of that charging while turning off/on (and will be careful not to accidently do this just incase :-))
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I'm wondering if this usb plug is safe to use to charge my xd?
(http://s33.postimg.org/oks6xhzwf/plug1.png)
(http://s33.postimg.org/dc5a1lo8v/plug2.png)
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Received the GPD today from Droidbox (This time there was no seal) although again the GPD seemed untouched. Firmware on 3.3.8. seems to be working quite well so far (Not tried charging it yet.. ) Seems to be an issue with Wi-fi, (although the previous one had similar issues as well). Connection starts strong, then gets weak after a while and seems to fluctuate between no transfer to low bandwidth until i let it rest for a while and then start downloading again.
More than likely a firmware issue perhaps...
what charger are you using right now? I have been using a standard samsung 2.0 A charger for 10 months without any issues charging it daily. I can recommend that (the standard, cheap, 2.0 A samsung charger, NOT any other higer amp ones ) if you are now charging it via usb, since that takes forever. On the other hand, it also lasts forever, so it might not be a problem for you.
One thing: I believe this should not happen anymore, but do not turn of the device while it is in the charger. You can charge it in standby, or first turn it off and THEN connect it to the charger after it's off, but putting it in the charger and then turning it off while it is charging and letting it lie for a few hours was a pretty sure way of frying at least the first batch(es) - GPD said so themselves. It should be fixed in hardware long ago, but you never know, so just saying' :)
I recieved the second GPD device yesterday and all is working well so far. Currently have only charged it via PC USB port and will use a standard non-fast charger if charging it via wall outlet.
Using a fast charger according to various sources on other devices has also destroyed other devices (not just tablets) due to some issue with communication between device and charger (or some fast chargers test resistance and provide the higher voltage). The main culprit in this case seems to be the Samsing Fast Charger (E.g one that comes with the Galaxy S6) - Do not use this on the GPD XD!! If you believe this is not true, try it and see the GPD device break.
I am aware of that charging while turning off/on (and will be careful not to accidently do this just incase :-))
I'm using one of these on my xd and I'm fine and I have one of the first batches
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You are one of the lucky ones I guess :-) From experience myself, and from a friend as well as some others (via google search :-)), the same Samsung S6 Fast Charger was used and the devices battery circuitry just fried.
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i looked up that samsung fast charger definitely don't use that it does change the voltage and will charge at 9v 1.67a i also noticed that on amazon there are alot of people complaining about fake s6 chargers that catch on fire. this is what i have been using http://www.amazon.com/Anker-Charger-PowerPort-Multi-Port-Samsung/dp/B00VH8ZW02/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1464232272&sr=8-1&keywords=anker+5+port+usb+charger (http://www.amazon.com/Anker-Charger-PowerPort-Multi-Port-Samsung/dp/B00VH8ZW02/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1464232272&sr=8-1&keywords=anker+5+port+usb+charger) i was misunderstanding what people were saying i kept see every one talk about the amps of the device when it comes to amps your device can only ever pull what it needs but that samsung charger is literally charging at a higher voltage 9 volts over the standard 5v that would be dangerous for any device that is not built for it.
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I'm wondering if this usb plug is safe to use to charge my xd?
(http://s33.postimg.org/oks6xhzwf/plug1.png)
(http://s33.postimg.org/dc5a1lo8v/plug2.png)
Can I have a clear "yes" or "no". is that plug safe to charge my gpd xd?
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Yes, that should be fine. 5v and 2a (2.1a is usually the default for these type of chargers)
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Yes, that should be fine. 5v and 2a (2.1a is usually the default for these type of chargers)
I thought so but wanted to be 100% sure. Thank you!
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Until now my xd is working fine, the only issue i've seen so far is related to the charger, which is worrying me. A few people said that it would be safer to use the samsung charger, but according to other people here this charger will eventually harm the battery because of the fast charge. Is there any kind of last word regarding this issue? The original charger is really bad to the xd? The samsung chargers is a worst solution to it?
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Until now my xd is working fine, the only issue i've seen so far is related to the charger, which is worrying me. A few people said that it would be safer to use the samsung charger, but according to other people here this charger will eventually harm the battery because of the fast charge. Is there any kind of last word regarding this issue? The original charger is really bad to the xd? The samsung chargers is a worst solution to it?
Any standard charger should be fine as long as it comes from a trusted reseller. Anker, Aukey, Samsung, etc... are good bets. As long as the charger says "5v" on it you be fine. the mAh rating is recommended to be at about 1A but you can use anything higher or lower. The power supply will limit any higher current, and lower currents will just take longer to charge.
I do not recommend anything unbranded from China including the ones you received with the console. They tend to use substandard parts or poor designs.
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Until now my xd is working fine, the only issue i've seen so far is related to the charger, which is worrying me. A few people said that it would be safer to use the samsung charger, but according to other people here this charger will eventually harm the battery because of the fast charge. Is there any kind of last word regarding this issue? The original charger is really bad to the xd? The samsung chargers is a worst solution to it?
Any standard charger should be fine as long as it comes from a trusted reseller. Anker, Aukey, Samsung, etc... are good bets. As long as the charger says "5v" on it you be fine. the mAh rating is recommended to be at about 1A but you can use anything higher or lower. The power supply will limit any higher current, and lower currents will just take longer to charge.
I do not recommend anything unbranded from China including the ones you received with the console. They tend to use substandard parts or poor designs.
I found a aukey charger, but just like the samsung they are fast chargers. Should i avoid then since they could harm the battery or this won't be a problem?
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Until now my xd is working fine, the only issue i've seen so far is related to the charger, which is worrying me. A few people said that it would be safer to use the samsung charger, but according to other people here this charger will eventually harm the battery because of the fast charge. Is there any kind of last word regarding this issue? The original charger is really bad to the xd? The samsung chargers is a worst solution to it?
Any standard charger should be fine as long as it comes from a trusted reseller. Anker, Aukey, Samsung, etc... are good bets. As long as the charger says "5v" on it you be fine. the mAh rating is recommended to be at about 1A but you can use anything higher or lower. The power supply will limit any higher current, and lower currents will just take longer to charge.
I do not recommend anything unbranded from China including the ones you received with the console. They tend to use substandard parts or poor designs.
I found a aukey charger, but just like the samsung they are fast chargers. Should i avoid then since they could harm the battery or this won't be a problem?
They'll probably fry the power supply before the battery and your device will be dead.
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Until now my xd is working fine, the only issue i've seen so far is related to the charger, which is worrying me. A few people said that it would be safer to use the samsung charger, but according to other people here this charger will eventually harm the battery because of the fast charge. Is there any kind of last word regarding this issue? The original charger is really bad to the xd? The samsung chargers is a worst solution to it?
Any standard charger should be fine as long as it comes from a trusted reseller. Anker, Aukey, Samsung, etc... are good bets. As long as the charger says "5v" on it you be fine. the mAh rating is recommended to be at about 1A but you can use anything higher or lower. The power supply will limit any higher current, and lower currents will just take longer to charge.
I do not recommend anything unbranded from China including the ones you received with the console. They tend to use substandard parts or poor designs.
I found a aukey charger, but just like the samsung they are fast chargers. Should i avoid then since they could harm the battery or this won't be a problem?
They'll probably fry the power supply before the battery and your device will be dead.
Thanks for the answer. Would you mind recommending a few models so i could search for them outside Amazon?
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(http://m.imgur.com/9u2OFYG)
Will this charger work. Its an offical samsung one that came with my j7. Im just really paranoid about breaking my gpd.
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Yes that should be fine.
As long as the charger is rated @ 5V and is NOT listed as a "Fast Charger" it should be safe. Outwardly there is no way to really tell if a cheap charger is unsafe. Generally the danger is to you, not to your device. A charger with improper isolation can become live at mains voltage and fry YOU before it frys your device.
Hear are some videos concerning the dangers of poorly designed chargers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqJnFhhPAis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Hdn0MuCK_0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmtW_oA1fRo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiqHU7L7Dk0
Teardown of GOOD charger:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRe9w5PKmsE
The power supply is not a delicate flower and can handle some voltage variances within a certain tolerance. Do not be overly paranoid. A fast charger goes through a range of voltages up to about 24 volts and that is what is damaging in that case. Most fast chargers SHOULD be intelligent enough to know now to put out more than 5V to an unsupported device but not all devices are made the same.
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Is a Samsung Charger with 5.0V - 2.0A from my old Galaxy S4 ok? Or should I use anything else?
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Is a Samsung Charger with 5.0V - 2.0A from my old Galaxy S4 ok? Or should I use anything else?
It might be slightly slower than with the GPD XDs original charger but it will work.
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Is a Samsung Charger with 5.0V - 2.0A from my old Galaxy S4 ok? Or should I use anything else?
It might be slightly slower than with the GPD XDs original charger but it will work.
It'll be just as fast. The XD only charges at 1A from my testing so 2A is plenty. The only device I've ever owned that pulled that much is my Cube i10 tablet and my LG G3 which can both pull 2A. It won't harm the device either.