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okay, seriously, what?s a good store to buy it from?? None of them seem that trustworthy...  I don?t want to receive a broken product!

Oh, and do the analogs at least appear sturdy, ie they will hold out quite a while? D:

okay, seriously, what?s a good store to buy it from?? None of them seem that trustworthy...  I don?t want to receive a broken product!

Oh, and do the analogs at least appear sturdy, ie they will hold out quite a while? D:

aliexpress or willgoo are both ok, but I dont recomend buying this device, ergonomically its impossible to use for long periods of time(for me), the cpu at 1.8ghz is a neglagible upgrade. The gpu is strong but at 1024x600 a mali 450 does quiet well too.. the heat will affect your fingers. Nubs are pretty bad, not just beacuse they are nubs but because they spin.

the only good thing about this device is the dpad and speakers.

Since you wanted to know about the analogs, the nubs are analog but the motion is stiff, inaccurate and rough. It will feeling like a dpad.

i did not tested yet this device, but figure is similar to Q88+/Q89, i can comment few things.

Thre is two kind analog types on android consoles.
- Flat, like PSP sticks. These sticks are inaccurate in general speaking, and most time you will use as digital control (because you simply go to border directly, using all the range, or releasing, to let the stick on the center)
The good point of these kind of sticks is that are so portable. Devices with this you can put on your bag with easy and don?t get afraid of the sticks will be broken.

- Full featured Sticks as X360 controller. These kind of sticks are, for long, the best alternative for serious playing. Are precise and comfortable. The problem with these kind of sticks is that are not so portable. You must take care when transport a device with this, for avoiding broke them.

There is another kind of Sticks, that use JXDS7800B, but are not precise, and non comfortable, then i did not consider as alternative of serious gaming stick.

then, based on what i mentioned, there are alternatives for these two profiles of users:
- Users that want a portable device for normal-casual gaming. These kind of users will prefer something like Q88+/Q89/Q9 because is more easy to transport.

- Users that want a portable device for normal-serious gaming. These kind of users prefer devices like iPega 9700, GPD-G7, etc, where controls are good and sticks are quality. This kind of users usually play on home, and the device is not really for portable playing (outside home)

I agree with nielo360 about analog of Q88+/Q89/Q9 are not good for serious gaming with these controls, but in my opinion, are enough for portable/casual gaming. I usually play with GPD-Q89 on subway, and controls are enough for these kind of situations where i take the device and bring back quickly to my backpack, without worries about sticks will be broken. Time ago, i usually play with GPD-G5A on subway, but i broked right stick (get heavy pressed on my backpack) and i avoid to play normally with any device with these kind of sticks when travelling on subway, etc. Only use on my home.

sorry if i insist on the portable point of the sticks, but in fact, is the only reason why GPD put these sticks on this device.

Can you figure this device with Normal analog Sticks, and more confortable L2, R2 buttons? if you can figure, then most probably you will realize on that this mold is similar to GPG-G7. I figure on some time the G7 device will receive an upgrade with the new SoC (and hope, with a improved DPAD... or the same DPAD as Q9)

About the heating. i figure will be a problem. I want to open the device and check if there is the same heatsink solution than Q89.
And i reccomend to limit the speed of the device if you really don?t need power. As i remember, SetCPU can create profiles per App for configuring CPUs profiles (governor, max speed, etc)

Do the other people who have this (or the q88, it?s the same after all) also find it unergonomical to use/get pain in their hand? Of course that?s rather subjective, but the guy who reviewed it on youtube (the 88) loved it. But I don?t want something which gives me hand pain after notime. Does it do this for everyone? Most people seem to like the device, only divided about the sticks. (Most I see say they?re fine/good enough, some hate them, I like PSP nubs, so it?s probably fine. And the fact they rotate sounds good to me, the archos ones don't, but that?s how it broke. It rotates now and is ruined. So if these are free to rotate, they probably will last longer, and it really doesn?t annoy me. The problem is the left stick simply does not respond accuretely anymore. I push forward, character goes left, like that~

Is the heat a real problem? Reviewer said it was not that bad, and rockchips are known for being BBQchips. My archos, especially if it?s plugged into power outlet and running a game like dead trigger, becaumes so hot you can cook an egg on it, it?s ridiculous, yet I have had it for a year, game few hours per day on it on average + use it for everything else inlcuding streaming anime and stuff, and except for the left stick it still runs like a champ. It became hot enough to burn the ?u? of the ?otaku? sticker I put on it tough. That?s how hot it gets... yet I just had an uptime of just over three weeks with no crashes or anything before it shut down, because I forgot to charge the battery. Rock stable.

So is the heat really that bad? Because rockchips can handle aa bit of heat, at least the rk3188 could... (the official certified temperature for it also is 85 Celcius according to this manual I downloaded...) When nielo360 says ?not that bad'?, how bad is it? If it's just a bit, I don?t care, I am not gonna overclock it, and I figure it?s unavoidable given the speed of the GPU... it?s heating, or shitty framerates, I pick heating

I just really need a gamepad replacement, and one with a stronger GPU because I don?t want to buy back what I?ve got. I want to play tales of the borderlands and exiled and such. And I would happily wait, if that stick had not bought the bus.

So yeah, the two main questions are... does it give everyone a pain in their hand? Is it and the q88+ stable, like can use it for few hours on android game or emulator without crashing? And is the heat cremation-level or just a bit (also when playing something like crazy taxi, where the GPU has to work as well).

Sorry for so many questions, but this is subjective, I jsut want to minimize my chance of being something I won?t enjoy...

nielo.

open the device and check the cables/data buses are correctly plugged. in both, Q88+ and Q89, i get problems with internal cables and connectors, they are not corretcly connected, and the controls are not working well.

after fixing this, the controls running ok.

I personally find all 7 inch devices unconfortable (even g7 which is more ergonomic), and q89 is "as confortable" as JXD 7800B or Archos gamepad 2, so if you have used one of these it's pretty much the same. This q9 is the same mold as q89, so in terms of ergonomics should be the same. I personally cannot play with any 7 inch device for more than 15 minutes, so I never use them (except for android development)

With that said, for me the target of q89/q89 is mainly people who want to play emulators, because of the good dpad. For games that use analog or android games is not too recommended in my opinion, because analogs in q89 were rather terrible, and it seems that q9 are the same. So basically the choice is up to people depending on what they want to play. If you are emulator guy and don't care about android gaming at all, can be an option, if the focus is android gaming/streaming or things that use analog a lot, then probably there are other choices around.

Also, I remember that although kernel can report 1,8 ghz, all RK3288 run by default at 1,6 max, unless it's modified by source code, because there is  DEFAULT_SAFETY_FREQ flag that limit speed at 1,6 ghz, and probably is the best choice, because using 1,8 ghz or above is only recommended in tvboxes with a good heatsink.


By the way, just as curiosity, can anyone tell which refresh rate device has in hz? Is it 60 hz? How are partitions in the device? Did GPD include an option to swap nand flash/microSD like in previous GPD devices?

Display tester for instance:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gombosdev.displaytester

Or just using calibration option in Retroarch emu.

Display tester for instance:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gombosdev.displaytester

Or just using calibration option in Retroarch emu.

refresh rate is 60.22

about playstore, don?t worry about this. simply flashing a firmware with this, you will solve.

and for english... all system have english, chinese, spanish, etc. you must setup on system settings.

Thanks for the info about screen refresh rate. Seems that firmware have no issues then, so no need for custom firmwares either.

If it's alzo stable :-)  i shall know soon, just bought it, 100 euro for a handheld with like twice the performance of a galaxy s5 is not bad...

Wow, thanks for the review.

Unfortunately you are scaring the shit out of me. When I receive it I will use it for some weeks and then decide which one should I sell, this or the S7800B...