Author Topic: GPD-G5A  (Read 114210 times)

skelton

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Re: GPD-G5A
« Reply #20 on: November 08, 2013, 09:57:40 am »
I'm a bit concerned about the placement of the speakers. I would think the bottom of my hand would cover them the way I tend to grip joypads of that shape.

Do the analog sticks have buttons?(Ie:L3 and R3  buttons) If so it would be an ultimate PS1 emulation device

I don't think the analogs include L3 and R3, not sure though. Are there many games that use it in PS1? I have never missed that buttons, but perhaps I don't play games that may need them.
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foleyjo

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Re: GPD-G5A
« Reply #21 on: November 08, 2013, 10:01:22 am »
I don't think the analogs include L3 and R3, not sure though. Are there many games that use it in PS1? I have never missed that buttons, but perhaps I don't play games that may need them.

To be honest I'm not sure how many games used it. 3 that I've been playing recently use it. Thats Medal of Honor 2, Alien Resurection and Rainbow 6.
It's usually used to center screen though.

fosamax

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Re: GPD-G5A
« Reply #22 on: November 08, 2013, 10:58:38 am »
Anyway it may be usefull to get 2 more mappable buttons in emus.

On the first xbox right stick click (aka R3) is used in quite every emulator to bring the menu but you could map it in order to get quicksave (L3) and quickload (R3) or whatever you want (screen filter, frameskip, toggle fps display)

I hope it could be added even if it's not really mandatory.

What i really hope is to have physical button for home, back and menu for android so we don't have to bother with a navigation bar (which is an annoyance when you have to use tincore keymapper)

skelton

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Re: GPD-G5A
« Reply #23 on: November 08, 2013, 12:10:31 pm »
You can call Tincore using a button combo (for instance Vol +, Vol - and Vol +), no need to use notification bar.
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fosamax

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Re: GPD-G5A
« Reply #24 on: November 08, 2013, 01:05:59 pm »
Sure I can. The trouble is not about calling the key mapper but more about a change in the layout of the buttons when the bar is visible/masked.

The same applies in some emu (without using TKM) like drastic : if you call the navigation bar for some reason, the touch screen behave strangely as if  the emu didn't take into account the lower resolution of the visible screen.

It's a bit hard to explain but at least I tend to prefer device with physical buttons for android.

It's also better if you want to theme your device as you don't have to worry about the notification bar destroying your "pixel perfect" layout.

madasahatter

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Re: GPD-G5A
« Reply #25 on: November 08, 2013, 01:57:39 pm »
I'm a bit concerned about the placement of the speakers. I would think the bottom of my hand would cover them the way I tend to grip joypads of that shape.

I don't think you'll have to worry about your hands covering the speakers.  In fact I think the way you hold it will help the sound.  Your hands would not be laying flat on the speakers covering them but instead be cupped around them directing the sound more straight toward you.

foleyjo

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Re: GPD-G5A
« Reply #26 on: November 08, 2013, 02:42:52 pm »
I don't think you'll have to worry about your hands covering the speakers.  In fact I think the way you hold it will help the sound.  Your hands would not be laying flat on the speakers covering them but instead be cupped around them directing the sound more straight toward you.

Where I think my hands would be placed it seems the bit of hand at the base of my thumb would actually cover the speaker or half the speaker giving a muffled sound.

I might be wrong about hand placement as I've never held wrong, it just seems like it from the images.

Deen0X (OP)

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Re: GPD-G5A
« Reply #27 on: January 22, 2014, 05:51:35 pm »
there is my quick preview (first impression)

I get surprised in good way with this device. time ago i read some forums (chinese) where they talk about this device with many kind of oppinons, then i figure the device will be a complete disaster and, i lower my expectations about this, but when i  get the device i feel impressed. the device bring to me a very good feeling.

The DPAD is a little strange to use. In my opinion is better than the X360 controller DPAD  (for me, is the worst DPAD i used). This DPAD is better, but not the best of the best. simply is enought.

I figure there is a lack of membrane that soft the use of dpad and make it less noise. I will try to do some sort of modding to add a membrane or similar, and reduce the "clicks" of the dpad. In my case, is no problem really, because i always use headphones to play. ^_^

I grab a video with a failed first boot (failed because the system come with an gmail account configured, then the device was used i figured in the manufacturer before sending to me). The video is a very bad quality (not focus. I?m working in getting a better camera for grab videos), but i played Street Fighter and most "complicated" movements are easy to do (haddokens, shurikens, etc). i think are easy to play with this.


The shoulder buttons are comfortables, but i think L2 & R2 may be a little bit raised may be more comfortable (may be for the next version). Sorry if my english cannot explain myself with this point, but i do my best to explain this.
These shoulder buttons are comfortable, more than any other android device i tested, but they are a little "strange" to use at beginning...

The reason is:



As you can see, X360 controller are less raised their shape for L2 and R2 buttons, and GPD-G5A is more raised in this point.

I think lowering these buttons to this level (aprox) may be a good alternative



even so, these buttons are comfortables. more than JXDS7800B or other device of this kind. (except NVidia Shield, may be). I need to play more to get a real feeling about the analog buttons, and their precition.

The screen is a normal TFT device. We cannot compare this with an IPS screen, but is enought for this kind of device (a handheld game device)

Buttons Start and Select are in the bottom border. they are a little strange to use, but with some practice will become normal. (Yinlips device usually put some buttons in the top border, and users get usual with these controls)

Analog sticks, are similar to X360 controller. I don?t know if hese sticks are the same parts than X360 controller, but i think may be easy to fix, if the case.





Both sticks includes buttons (L3 and R3)

The own mapper include ALL the device game controls. This mapper is the common we know from JXD devices, but evolved and now includes:

- Left Stick
- Right Stick (witht the common Stick and Point of view modes)
- DPAD (as 4 separated buttons)
- Frontal buttons 1, 2, 3, 4
- shoulder buttons 5, 6, 7, 8
- L3 and R3
- Select and Start

There are not included Volume buttons.

This mapper may probably will be enought for most games that need simple mapping functions.

Speakers have normal quality sound, with good stereo relief and good volume.

Is so comfortable to get in hands. weight is only 303gr



The device itself is not bigger (not much) than JXDS5110B or a PSVita





there is a global comparative:



Is so comfortable. (i said it ?)

In general, i have a very good first impression about this device. I need to use more to get a more in deep opinion about this, but the little time i get playing with this device i feel comfortable with this. The device performance is what we want from a device with these specs (even using an official firmware).

The controller is recognized directly from some games such MC4, but the button layout is strange (they are not in the position that we expect they must be), in example, button "4" (square in a sixaxis layout) must be to recharge weapon, but there is in button "3" (cross in sixaxis)

and last... the device is so comfortable. (i don?t remember if i mention this) XD


I?m working in my preview article, and of course in my review.

Zalu2!

10basetom

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Re: GPD-G5A
« Reply #28 on: January 22, 2014, 06:38:48 pm »
Thanks for the quick impressions, Deen0X. I counted you used the adjective "strange" four times in your post... I hope the device layout and feel becomes less strange as you continue to play with it :).

crazyhorse2352

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Re: GPD-G5A
« Reply #29 on: January 22, 2014, 06:42:34 pm »

 Thanks for your impressions, i'm getting one for sure. :)

ruffnutts

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Re: GPD-G5A
« Reply #30 on: January 22, 2014, 07:30:22 pm »
Thanks Deen for this - can't wait to tamper with mine now when it arrives lol

Sacramentum

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Re: GPD-G5A
« Reply #31 on: January 23, 2014, 08:56:19 am »
@Deen0X

Thanks for the mini-review!

How about the quality of materials? Is cheap plastic?

 I don?t know if it's for the photos, but the material seems poorer quality than JXD7800.

Another console to compare on materials?
g p 2 x w i z   ?   g c w z e r o   ?   g p d q 9   ?   g p d x d

lemmywinks

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Re: GPD-G5A
« Reply #32 on: January 23, 2014, 09:13:04 am »
Thanks Deen for this - can't wait to tamper with mine now when it arrives lol

Where did you buy from ruffnuts?
Handhelds:
GPD Win, GPD XD 64gb, PlayGo, RS-90, 3DS XL, DSi XL, GBA SP, GBBC Clone, Gameboy Pocket c/w screen mod, PSP Go
PC:
Medion Erazer, Toshiba Z20t, Dell Mini 9, Psion 5MX
Tons of other old laptops and tablets.....

Deen0X (OP)

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Re: GPD-G5A
« Reply #33 on: January 23, 2014, 11:11:51 am »
Thanks for the quick impressions, Deen0X. I counted you used the adjective "strange" four times in your post... I hope the device layout and feel becomes less strange as you continue to play with it :).

take in consideration i?m not english spoken and may be i get wrong or non precise words to describe some points (for this reason i try to explain myself always with samples)

Strange is not equal to bad point. If i?m talking about DPAD, i feel "strange" it if i compare with a common device such PSP (i?m so comfortable using this DPAD). GPD-G5A DPAD feel ... distinct, but is something that we need to be usual to get comfortable. In fact, if you check my video of testing DPAD

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aFqkvARiiw" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aFqkvARiiw</a>

you can check i?m doing hadoukens and shurykens with easy (consider the DPAD is new, and in this video is the first time i?m using this DPAD on the device. i'm doing a "first impression" dpad in fact)

today, i come with the device to my office, playing in the train, and get easy to play fighting games (that requires a proper DPAD to play)

one of my common test games is Marve vs Capcom (or similar) that i?m so usual playing with this, and i get comfortable from begining using the DPAD.

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A6TE9bXCJ8" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1A6TE9bXCJ8</a>
(this video i capture last night, but today i can play in better way because i?m getting more comfortable with this DPAD)

summaryzing. don?t get wrong when i use "strange". is a word that i use many times but most of these times are not refering to bad things.

greetings! (and again, apologize my poor english)

ruffnutts

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Re: GPD-G5A
« Reply #34 on: January 23, 2014, 11:49:48 am »
Thanks Deen for this - can't wait to tamper with mine now when it arrives lol

Where did you buy from ruffnuts?

Willgoo

GuZzO

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Re: GPD-G5A
« Reply #35 on: January 23, 2014, 04:45:19 pm »
On this picture :



What is the device down left (it looks like a JXD 7300) ?

-JXD s7800
-JXD s7300
- ? ? ?
-GPD G5A
-PS VIta
-Android crappy stuff
-Much i5
-Nvidia Shield
-PSP
-DSi
-Nokia Ngage

Nice collection by the way !!

xphyle

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Re: GPD-G5A
« Reply #36 on: January 23, 2014, 05:16:58 pm »
On this picture :



What is the device down left (it looks like a JXD 7300) ?

-JXD s7800
-JXD s7300
- ? ? ?
-GPD G5A
-PS VIta
-Android crappy stuff
-Much i5
-Nvidia Shield
-PSP
-DSi
-Nokia Ngage

Nice collection by the way !!

I'm guessing 3DS, and not DSi based on the two front cameras.

Grebbin77

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Re: GPD-G5A
« Reply #37 on: January 23, 2014, 06:15:00 pm »
Lol, I have TONS of questions...Exactly which buttons are on the bottom of the g5a?  Does it support bluetooth?  How is the wifi?  Is the touch screen good?  I didn't see the word "capacative"...  Does it have a proper sleep mode?  How well do the analogs work vs. The crappy s5110b sliders?  Is the battery life OK?
GPD G5a, JXD S5110b, NDS lite w/ Acekard, Kindle Fire, Samsung Galaxy S4, PS Vita, iPad

skelton

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Re: GPD-G5A
« Reply #38 on: January 23, 2014, 07:03:21 pm »
Lol, I have TONS of questions...Exactly which buttons are on the bottom of the g5a?  Does it support bluetooth?  How is the wifi?  Is the touch screen good?  I didn't see the word "capacative"...  Does it have a proper sleep mode?  How well do the analogs work vs. The crappy s5110b sliders?  Is the battery life OK?

The buttons at the bottom are Select and Start and volume buttons. (Though I am using l3 and r3 for select and start, seems more confortable for me).

no Bluetooth.

Screen is very similar to 5110b (probably the same screen)

Yes, it has a proper sleep mode (I suppose you mean the wake up bug present in 5110b?)

Analogs are very similar to x360 gamepad, far way better than 5110B ones.

Abou battery, i haven't run a full cycle yet, because I am constantly flashing kernels and test firmwares, but it's at least double time of 5110B, about 4 hours easily I think. I hope to be more accurate in following days.

GuZZo, the device you mean in Deen0x's picture is Iben L1
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Deen0X (OP)

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Re: GPD-G5A
« Reply #39 on: January 23, 2014, 07:32:19 pm »
yes, is a IBEN-L1

and the propose of these picture is to see this device compared with many other knowed devices. most probably you know some of them, then you get a clue about size without problems.

;)