Author Topic: 3DS ever possible?  (Read 7154 times)

menelaus (OP)

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3DS ever possible?
« on: May 25, 2016, 01:50:24 pm »
Hello all,

I'm wondering if a 3ds emulator would ever be possible on the GPD XD or is it simply not powerful enough?
(I'm dreaming of one day being able to play Monster Hunter on my awesome gpd. hehe)


skelton

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Re: 3DS ever possible?
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2016, 03:16:36 pm »
I don't think so. Citra for windows is still preliminar no port for android. So no in a short time i guess.
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indstr

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Re: 3DS ever possible?
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2016, 04:45:52 pm »
I definitely wouldn't get your hopes up.
PGS: Let the trainwreck continue to unfold.

shinkamui

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Re: 3DS ever possible?
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2016, 03:08:08 am »
Certainly will eventually appear.  It wont run on the XD or any of the chinese tabs currently on the market, not without some insanely competent and creative dyanrec. 

algorithm

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Re: 3DS ever possible?
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2016, 02:12:45 pm »
the 3DS is not really that much more powerful than a PSP and it is arm based hence some of the CPU emulation may be done natively. Its in early stages at the moment however but looking like its making progress (on the PC at the moment)

shinkamui

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Re: 3DS ever possible?
« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2016, 09:56:32 pm »
PSP was powered by a single core 333mhz MIPS cpu.  The original 3ds a Dual core Arm 11 + a single core ARM 9.  The new 3ds is powered by a somewhat modern quad core ARM SoC.  I don't think the comparison is sound.

algorithm

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Re: 3DS ever possible?
« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2016, 11:10:05 pm »
PSP was powered by a single core 333mhz MIPS cpu.  The original 3ds a Dual core Arm 11 + a single core ARM 9.  The new 3ds is powered by a somewhat modern quad core ARM SoC.  I don't think the comparison is sound.

The CPU architecture on the PSP was MIPS iirc and also consisted of several other custom chips and the media engine was an additional MIPS R4000.  Perhaps as the 3DS is ARM based, some of the emulation for the cpu may not be required.

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Re: 3DS ever possible?
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2016, 11:23:22 pm »
Seeing as most if not all emulation starts on PC, and the leading 3DS emulator (Citra) isn't very mature (sound emulation has only just been integrated, and that's not even accurate sound emulation) nor optimized, it's very probable that Android 3DS emulation is at least 2-3 years away.

That being the case, when it'll be available it'll probably target the higher-end devices, and the GPD XD is already falling behind - both in GFlops and in software optimizations (OpenGLES/Vulkan), so it's not very likely it'll ever have any form of 3DS emulation running on it. It's not a matter of "can it run it", it's a question of "will anyone ever develop for it", and the GPD XD is just too far behind to be relevant.

shinkamui

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Re: 3DS ever possible?
« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2016, 12:36:47 am »
No one is disagreeing with those claims.  That was stated above.  In 2 or 3 years, we could have handhelds that are significantly more powerful than the 3ds.  Today, there isn't a large enough gap, and to compensate, creative and spot on dynarec would be required.  As for running 3ds on the xd, I wouldn't consider the device relevant next year, let alone in 2-3 years.

Element20Three

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Re: 3DS ever possible?
« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2016, 05:43:47 pm »
Sadly the emulator has a long way to go. Also a LOT of 3ds games rely on 2 screens as well as touch so I think even if and when the emulator is more mature it will be increasing difficult to accurately and reliably play the most beloved games. Shame really. A lot of games on that think I would love to eventually play.

eragon2890

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Re: 3DS ever possible?
« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2016, 06:16:27 pm »
Sadly the emulator has a long way to go. Also a LOT of 3ds games rely on 2 screens as well as touch so I think even if and when the emulator is more mature it will be increasing difficult to accurately and reliably play the most beloved games. Shame really. A lot of games on that think I would love to eventually play.

A surprisingly little issue ; you can play 99.9% of ds games which also use two screens perfectly on the GPD XD with drastic. In fact, 3d games like mario kart ds are way better on it then on a real ds, because it renders in HD resolution. It looks incredibly much better then on a 3ds OR 3ds.

I also played new super mario bros on it, phoenix wright, 50 hours worht of radion history (AWESOME RPG BTW!), and more, and never had any issue with the "bottom" screen being on the right side. XD In fact in mario kart, I like to use the option to disable the bottom screen and let the whole screen be the race... combined with high res rendering it?s kind of like playing mario kart 7 for wii on a portable. XD

softypolimer

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Re: 3DS ever possible?
« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2016, 06:32:10 pm »
It will run perfectly in 5-10 years on some other hardware...

To this day, PSP emulation still need a relatively powerful device to run some games perfectly smooth. It's not about hardware's juice but building a virtual machine inside another device which require a good knowledge of programing with precise hardware and may takes time to do so depending on the deverlopers.

So take it easy. There's plenty of good old games like Monster Hunter 3rd which run well enough on XD.

Berryal

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Re: 3DS ever possible?
« Reply #12 on: June 06, 2016, 01:35:03 pm »
It's not the raw power it lacks, but 3DS emulators are just quite behind at the moment. The 3DS hardware really isn't that powerful, especially considering the time it was released, so it seems like it should be possible but development and getting it to a stage where it is stable and usable with most games might take some time yet.

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