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General Gaming => Windows Devices => Topic started by: monstercameron on July 25, 2017, 03:00:16 pm
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=243755362&postcount=324
ravenridge banded kestrel maybe...
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I thought they had news about development progress. Choosing a new SoC is really far from getting things done, it sounds like a bureaucratic thing, link negotiating with AMD and writing "Using Ryzen" in the specs of the device. They should show hardware, prototypes, designs, anything that shows they're doing something that works or will work with the new SoC. Otherwise, the SmachZ is as alive/dead as it was before the Romb.io situation.
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hmm. PGS also had support of an intel developer. that didn't turn out well.
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There was a new update yesterday. Anybody knows the details?
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openpandora forums Smach z is back
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openpandora forums Smach z is back
Has Smach Z ever mentioned getting anymore investment $ ?
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Has Smach Z ever mentioned getting anymore investment $ ?
They have enough funds left from kickstarter and indiegogo campaigns.
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Has Smach Z ever mentioned getting anymore investment $ ?
They have enough funds left from kickstarter and indiegogo campaigns.
Is that what they told you?
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AMD confirms that SMACH are using Ryzen Embedded:
SMACH Z
?The introduction of the SMACH Z handheld console will create new opportunities for portable gaming devices, enabling users to play AAA titles at HD framerates, delivering desktop-quality power and graphics in the palm of players? hands,? said Daniel Fernandez, chief executive officer, SMACH. ?By leveraging the new AMD Ryzen Embedded V1000 with superior graphics capabilities and mega processing power in our console, we are ready to revolutionize the on-the-go consumer gaming experience.?
http://ir.amd.com/news-releases/news-release-details/amd-launches-epyctm-embedded-and-ryzentm-embedded-processors-end (http://ir.amd.com/news-releases/news-release-details/amd-launches-epyctm-embedded-and-ryzentm-embedded-processors-end)
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While I?m not a huge fan of the form factor performance should be much better than the GPD WIN 2 , the custom chipset from AMD looks amazing, only concern is battery life and price.
It?s surprising looking good for the SmachZ team if they can deliver.
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The GPU for sure, for emulators CPU wise I am curious to know IPC in single core or dual core, since most emus rely on that, on a high IPC. My old i7from my laptop performs better in emus than my rizen 1600x for example...
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So have they shown any sort of prototype yet, are they actually producing a handheld or is this still a scam?
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IMHO, a scam that they're going to give up on. Sad :(
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How is this a scam if they are going ahead and producing new mobo?s and new hardware to go along with it.
Now they still have a long way to go but at least they are going forward , let?s see how this all plays out before calling it a scam.
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So there?s good news and bad news for folks who?ve been following the development of the Smach Z handheld gaming PC for the past four years. The good news is that, as promised, Smach is showing off an alpha prototype at Embedded World this week.
The bad news is that it?s a non-working prototype.
The company has finalized the specs, updated the processor to a Ryzen V1605B with Radeon Vega 8 graphics, designed a motherboard and daughter board, and created a case prototype. But the whole thing is tucked away behind glass at Embedded World, where the folks at Computer Base got to look (but not touch).
https://liliputing.com/2018/02/smach-z-alpha-handheld-gaming-pc-makes-debut-not-playable-yet.html
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Ahahaha, this thing is a fucking brick.
(https://liliputing-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/smz_02.jpg)
Look at the size of that.
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So have they actually got anything functional to show or is this just a dummy device backed up by promises? I didn't keep track of this as it was looking like a total scam and the size/form factor doesn't appeal to me at all.
I guess if they've actually got a populated mobo then their intentions at least seem good, not sure they can bring anything to market though.
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Ahahaha, this thing is a fucking brick.
(https://liliputing-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/smz_02.jpg)
Look at the size of that.
Yeah it?s pretty big but if it doesn?t weigh a lot looks comfortable to hold, I really like the rounded grip area design.
If you want halfway decent battery life you will get a chunky unit but I actually like the way it looks.
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Super long handhelds like this tend to be really unwieldy though. Closest I can think of is a standard phone with a PhoneJoy controller. Issues with the button layout and general grip design aside, it just feels so very wrong with how long it was and this just looks like more of that.
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Yeah it?s pretty big but if it doesn?t weigh a lot looks comfortable to hold, I really like the rounded grip area design.
If you want halfway decent battery life you will get a chunky unit but I actually like the way it looks.
It's not really the grips that bother me- I think that putting batteries in the grip Shield style (http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2013/08/shieldteardown.jpg) is a nice way of distributing the weight, and you want comfortable grip shapes for long play sessions. My issue is the thickness of the center section, and the enormous cooler hanging off the back of the device. That thing is going to be heavy!
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Yeah it?s thick but it needs to be, it uses much more powerful hardware than the Win 2 and I?m glad they are using a custom cooling solution as long as it?s not too loud.
This might not even be the final design yet , it?s still in the prototype stage in my eyes.
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Preorder it now for just ?899 with arrival in September LOL.
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September? Long wait? By then the specs would be crap compared to a future Win 3.
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BREAKING NEWS: The Smach team managed to make some LEDs light up. https://ksr-video.imgix.net/assets/021/071/291/4d0789346af5ed218182cd50a5af2c87_h264_high.mp4
And they're meant to be shipping this to customers in September. Lol.
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Almost 2 years of development and they couldnt figure out how to get the LEDs working until now
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From HW perspective, i have now Ryzen 2200 APU, its 65W and has Vega 8 GPU too and even with 3000 DDR4 MHz memory, 1080p gaming is problematic even on low details.. And now they would have slower apu with 5 hours of battery life for 1080p, its nonsense.
All previous AMD low power APUs was complete fail, i dont believe that they really have working prototype, these FPS numbers there are not proofs at all.. otherwise they would show as something better like running Afterburner OSD and hand on video.
And their forum section on their site - you cant even create a post..
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e3 trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwtNkJQvTMo
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How fascinating! (Not really.)
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A must buy!! :P
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And... Are they presenting working units at the E3?
Sent from my Moto Z using Tapatalk
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This is complete bullshit. Dont even think of buying it.
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I still think it's a scam.
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Well, at least you can't accuse these guys in lack of genius. They're continuing to make this thing more and more portable than before - now it just requires an additional laptop to be played on:
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I can't describe the utter transcendent elegancy of that thick coiled pipe...
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Ahahahahahaha, I get it now, 8GB of RAM for the SMACH Z+ 8GB or RAM for laptop = 16GB of RAM in total :)
Was wondering who they fit 16GB of RAM in there :D
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I can't describe the utter transcendent elegancy of that thick coiled pipe...
Wait... what... what's that supposed to be? They're just running the games on the laptop and using the SmachZ as screen and controller?
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Whatever it is, it's awesome :D
Sent from my Moto Z using Tapatalk
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I'm gonna get 2 of these :D
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I tried to contact them about forum and they said that its for backers only.. I would say other mark of scam, i dont see nowhere any Kickstarter or Indiegogo email input for backers..
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new video from StopDrop&Retro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDwEwjYcNCA
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StopDrop&Retro is the only reason why people are still caring about Smach Z
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StopDrop&Retro is the only reason why people are still caring about Smach Z
Yeah I hope they keep up the pretence that they are actually going to produce a console, that way SD&R gets more content for videos!
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Plot twist, StopDrop&Retro are actually the people behind or in charge of SMACH Z...
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I just saw a news that says the smachz can be tested in TGS!
Except... It can't be switched on, it's just an empty case!
But they do have a lot of CG to prove that they are working on something real after all those years of not showing any working prototype!
Man they really have no shame, bringing such an obvious scam in the TGS and making people buy the product full price (minimum 800$!!) on their website...
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I just saw a news that says the smachz can be tested in TGS!
Except... It can't be switched on, it's just an empty case!
But they do have a lot of CG to prove that they are working on something real after all those years of not showing any working prototype!
Man they really have no shame, bringing such an obvious scam in the TGS and making people buy the product full price (minimum 800$!!) on their website...
I had read news that AMD would be showcasing it at their TGS booth. Now I wonder if AMD actually paid any attention to this thing.
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Smach had their own booth at TGS. Not sure, but they may have also had a display in the AMD stand and the Spanish dev stand. Here is there stand they had at TGS
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/395027291341848576/492671708675833857/SmachzOwnBoothAtTGS.jpg)
Here is a member of the GPD team checking them out below. GPD were also at TGS
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/323881239800971265/492163699906314272/image3.jpg)
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Boring...
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Here is a member of the GPD team checking them out below. GPD were also at TGS
Pretty sure the whole GPD team had a good laugh after he got back from the booth.
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R.I.P. SMACH Z
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So on a more serious note has anybody on here actually given these guys money? Although it's fun to mock the SmachZ team for being clueless dreamers there are quite a few people who will lose some serious money on this I think.
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To be fair, they do have investors covering them. One of which has a person on the team. Also the HW company they are using to develop the PCB does seem to be half decent. They have shown a video to backers this week of their PCB booting up to Windows 10. They have also shown the molds for the Smach Z case. I would say that it might be a chance for sometime next year. Still a risk though, and I wouldn't recommend anyone back it until the finish the thing and it releases
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Investors aren't a limitless source of funding though and the Smach guys have already shown they can burn through other peoples' money and have nothing to show for it with the whole Rhombio saga. They are on their second injection of cash and still have their original orders to fulfil whilst building up debt and dividing their company up. Maybe they have the funds to produce a very large initial batch and/or have big orders from retailers, with the limited appeal and high price of this thing I would doubt that. You have to wonder how many they could actually sell before it reaches saturation point.
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Guys
They have a working prototype
https://youtu.be/Zn47Q9ka61s
https://youtu.be/M7DIIk7oQEw
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Yeah, that's what they said 2 years ago.
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also it's entering mass production early 2019
https://wccftech.com/smach-z-enter-production-early-2019/ yeh, sure
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They've said that plenty of times in the past.
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Not entirely sure why everyone is so sour with the smach z .
I get that they took a very long time to bring the product to where it is but when they release.....great if they don?t......no big deal.
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It's because they tell lots of lies and mislead their backers with blatant fakery. Hopefully they do ship units out as these aren't cheap and it wouldn't be nice to see so many people lose out.
Still looks bloody awful, would be interesting to see a 10"-12" budget laptop with this APU and a decent trackpad & keyboard though.
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It's because they tell lots of lies and mislead their backers with blatant fakery. Hopefully they do ship units out as these aren't cheap and it wouldn't be nice to see so many people lose out.
Still looks bloody awful, would be interesting to see a 10"-12" budget laptop with this APU and a decent trackpad & keyboard though.
Smach z is alive!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1UoG-xBlos
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I mean, I'll believe it once independent reviewers get their hands on a finished device... but it seems promising.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEp983Jt4ig
Fast forward to 1:00
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In the video they say you can upgrade the Smachz Ram,SSD, sock?!? woow that's really interesting but at what price...
Hope they can finally released it this year, it seems promising.
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Here's a video from last month that reveals some promising developments, showcasing some old-ish fps games.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9GYkkv_2IU
And once more, here's the video from the previous page, just in case people missed it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEp983Jt4ig
Fast forward to 1:00
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Smach z just release another video, they will be at E3. link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbQddtvBrr0
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Hi Guys i just found this video on youtube about Ryzen V1605B Gaming Handheld (Smach Z, GPD Win 2 Max)
Link: https://youtu.be/aa73b00kgd4?t=1
it seems the battery is consumed really fast... ???
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(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/323881239800971265/588138661778817034/download_20190611_155228.jpg)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/323881239800971265/588138661246271538/download_20190611_155224.jpg)
HobbyConsolas(Spanish) Video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Thzzl1Y-GkQ)
Attendee video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENcRIpq_sVw&feature=youtu.be)
THG Article (https://www.tomshardware.com/news/smach-z-handheld-pc-amd,39632.html)
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there three more videos
links: trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXm8D5EmOtk
monster hunter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCvyYKyHrxE
and a demo at e3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6CbXmPaWRU
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When Smach Z finally releases, I'm definitely getting one or two :)
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Well its finally here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QclbkG1WnQ
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Well its finally here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QclbkG1WnQ
Well I'll be damned, they actually shipped something.
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Well, it hasn't officially been released yet, so no one has their hands on a retail model. Also, this!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9GzVekrIQA
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=m9GzVekrIQA
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So... Does anybody know if this thing is ever launching? At this point I'm half expecting them to announce that they're redoing the design to use a 7nm chip, and start all over again.
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My guess is that it's dead, never to be revived again :(
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Oh, they released a new update... Apparently it's delayed again, because "the plastics weren't good enough".
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They make too many excuses
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At this stage I would consider my money gone if I had backed this.
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Update: Smach Z does not live https://www.notebookcheck.net/Smach-Z-on-the-road-to-becoming-vaporware-as-Smach-claims-to-be-on-the-verge-of-bankruptcy.539598.0.html