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Title: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: monstercameron on July 25, 2017, 03:00:16 pm
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=243755362&postcount=324

ravenridge banded kestrel maybe...
Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: DiegoSLTS on July 25, 2017, 07:48:41 pm
I thought they had news about development progress. Choosing a new SoC is really far from getting things done, it sounds like a bureaucratic thing, link negotiating with AMD and writing "Using Ryzen" in the specs of the device. They should show hardware, prototypes, designs, anything that shows they're doing something that works or will work with the new SoC. Otherwise, the SmachZ is as alive/dead as it was before the Romb.io situation.
Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: hellomoto on July 26, 2017, 03:17:11 am
hmm.  PGS also had support of an intel developer.  that didn't turn out well.
Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: androguy on September 09, 2017, 12:51:07 pm
There was a new update yesterday. Anybody knows the details?
Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: leafar on September 09, 2017, 04:31:35 pm
openpandora forums Smach z is back
Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: vcoleiro1 on September 11, 2017, 05:27:28 am
openpandora forums Smach z is back

Has Smach Z ever mentioned getting anymore investment $ ?
Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: androguy on September 11, 2017, 04:51:36 pm
Has Smach Z ever mentioned getting anymore investment $ ?

They have enough funds left from kickstarter and indiegogo campaigns.
Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: vcoleiro1 on September 12, 2017, 12:21:42 am
Has Smach Z ever mentioned getting anymore investment $ ?

They have enough funds left from kickstarter and indiegogo campaigns.

Is that what they told you?


Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: NTMBK on February 21, 2018, 03:30:49 pm
AMD confirms that SMACH are using Ryzen Embedded:

Quote
SMACH Z

?The introduction of the SMACH Z handheld console will create new opportunities for portable gaming devices, enabling users to play AAA titles at HD framerates, delivering desktop-quality power and graphics in the palm of players? hands,? said Daniel Fernandez, chief executive officer, SMACH. ?By leveraging the new AMD Ryzen Embedded V1000 with superior graphics capabilities and mega processing power in our console, we are ready to revolutionize the on-the-go consumer gaming experience.?



http://ir.amd.com/news-releases/news-release-details/amd-launches-epyctm-embedded-and-ryzentm-embedded-processors-end (http://ir.amd.com/news-releases/news-release-details/amd-launches-epyctm-embedded-and-ryzentm-embedded-processors-end)
Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: MOFO on February 23, 2018, 11:38:06 am
While I?m not a huge fan of the form factor performance should be much better than the GPD WIN 2 , the custom chipset from AMD looks amazing, only concern is battery life and price.
It?s surprising looking good for the SmachZ team if they can deliver.
Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: skelton on February 23, 2018, 12:59:05 pm
The GPU for sure, for emulators CPU wise I am curious to know IPC in single core or dual core, since most emus rely on that, on a high IPC. My old i7from my laptop  performs better in emus than my rizen 1600x for example...
Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: lemmywinks on February 23, 2018, 12:59:53 pm
So have they shown any sort of prototype yet, are they actually producing a handheld or is this still a scam?
Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: SONY on February 24, 2018, 10:16:24 am
IMHO, a scam that they're going to give up on. Sad :(
Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: MOFO on February 25, 2018, 07:52:19 pm
How is this a scam if they are going ahead and producing new mobo?s and new hardware to go along with it.
Now they still have a long way to go but at least they are going forward , let?s see how this all plays out before calling it a scam.
Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: sagadego on February 27, 2018, 05:15:28 pm
So there?s good news and bad news for folks who?ve been following the development of the Smach Z handheld gaming PC for the past four years. The good news is that, as promised, Smach is showing off an alpha prototype at Embedded World this week.

The bad news is that it?s a non-working prototype.

The company has finalized the specs, updated the processor to a Ryzen V1605B with Radeon Vega 8 graphics, designed a motherboard and daughter board, and created a case prototype. But the whole thing is tucked away behind glass at Embedded World, where the folks at Computer Base got to look (but not touch).

https://liliputing.com/2018/02/smach-z-alpha-handheld-gaming-pc-makes-debut-not-playable-yet.html
Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: NTMBK on February 27, 2018, 10:33:44 pm
Ahahaha, this thing is a fucking brick.

(https://liliputing-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/smz_02.jpg)

Look at the size of that.
Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: lemmywinks on February 28, 2018, 12:02:49 am
So have they actually got anything functional to show or is this just a dummy device backed up by promises? I didn't keep track of this as it was looking like a total scam and the size/form factor doesn't appeal to me at all.

I guess if they've actually got a populated mobo then their intentions at least seem good, not sure they can bring anything to market though.
Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: MOFO on March 11, 2018, 04:04:30 pm
Ahahaha, this thing is a fucking brick.

(https://liliputing-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/smz_02.jpg)

Look at the size of that.
Yeah it?s pretty big but if it doesn?t weigh a lot looks comfortable to hold, I really like the rounded grip area design.
If you want halfway decent battery life you will get a chunky unit but I actually like the way it looks.
Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: AVahne on March 12, 2018, 05:05:20 am
Super long handhelds like this tend to be really unwieldy though. Closest I can think of is a standard phone with a PhoneJoy controller. Issues with the button layout and general grip design aside, it just feels so very wrong with how long it was and this just looks like more of that.
Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: NTMBK on March 12, 2018, 12:03:14 pm
Yeah it?s pretty big but if it doesn?t weigh a lot looks comfortable to hold, I really like the rounded grip area design.
If you want halfway decent battery life you will get a chunky unit but I actually like the way it looks.

It's not really the grips that bother me- I think that putting batteries in the grip Shield style (http://oyster.ignimgs.com/wordpress/stg.ign.com/2013/08/shieldteardown.jpg) is a nice way of distributing the weight, and you want comfortable grip shapes for long play sessions. My issue is the thickness of the center section, and the enormous cooler hanging off the back of the device. That thing is going to be heavy!
Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: MOFO on March 13, 2018, 10:03:20 pm
Yeah it?s thick but it needs to be, it uses much more powerful hardware  than the Win 2 and I?m glad they are using a custom cooling solution as long as it?s not too loud.
This might not even be the final design yet , it?s still in the prototype stage in my eyes.
Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: Drem on March 16, 2018, 07:13:21 am
Preorder it now for just ?899 with arrival in September LOL.
Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: SONY on March 16, 2018, 07:44:14 am
September? Long wait? By then the specs would be crap compared to a future Win 3.
Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: NTMBK on May 10, 2018, 11:25:40 am
BREAKING NEWS: The Smach team managed to make some LEDs light up. https://ksr-video.imgix.net/assets/021/071/291/4d0789346af5ed218182cd50a5af2c87_h264_high.mp4

And they're meant to be shipping this to customers in September. Lol.
Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: Manofaction89 on May 10, 2018, 01:46:12 pm
Almost 2 years of development and they couldnt figure out how to get the LEDs working until now
Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: ruthan on May 24, 2018, 06:46:08 pm
From HW perspective, i have now Ryzen 2200 APU, its 65W and has Vega 8 GPU too and even with 3000 DDR4 MHz memory, 1080p gaming is problematic even on low details.. And now they would have slower apu with 5 hours of battery life for 1080p, its nonsense.

  All previous AMD low power APUs was complete fail, i dont believe that they really have working prototype, these FPS numbers there are not proofs at all.. otherwise they would show as something better like running Afterburner OSD and hand on video.
 
  And their forum section on their site - you cant even create a post..
Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: sagadego on June 13, 2018, 02:00:38 am
e3  trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwtNkJQvTMo
Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: Drem on June 13, 2018, 07:55:46 pm
How fascinating! (Not really.)
Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: SONY on June 13, 2018, 08:04:34 pm
A must buy!! :P
Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: EvilDragon on June 14, 2018, 09:59:01 am
And... Are they presenting working units at the E3?

Sent from my Moto Z using Tapatalk

Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: Manofaction89 on June 14, 2018, 10:03:47 am
This is complete bullshit. Dont even think of buying it.
Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: SONY on June 14, 2018, 10:33:18 am
I still think it's a scam.
Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: Drem on June 14, 2018, 11:02:54 am
Well, at least you can't accuse these guys in lack of genius. They're continuing to make this thing more and more portable than before - now it just requires an additional laptop to be played on:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/t_KYiz5k9vn-y3eKc9U0jpRO_PR6jY9lUnRYnBYK5xXZirpJ49rRlSdP1a0DdLrAcVAisUCqSfxcz7Va-vEvB6_9AKkWP_6yv0Zcpo7Ck2_S-L_rTTm48QjBOeed395hYoiaXr09gO7U2-ymhBaBGr6umcC9jlYkNrp2KhADnhDmzYlEekLGICYoa-7NNFHgTHN_OV5YHyI5Kvh52_9wtRaBuCRNxzYCHNiLEJ8yX3XkltBpukGjTMf7Q6s00PJDnBLRNd5XDU8-VrEkrkJ8c0tMRyCsYY55ftWZ2iORRaX6cXhoToks_CDy_IQcvtaOdGAGqc5Nt8nK32DfWe6mufSkSMMRbTmUBf4nd-7eUAOELmgMsxdveJEqFi4mDoSg47MdZ2fzEYHNtEhsLjKkDI3NntTAlhkBdzlIWzgn7KbU8kLVTp1jTwqHdynrMJ_lD4cdhRQLL192QjlF-NIoFiTlk0teoGTyMlcUCHdDntuNspVlXKZE2XcY1MZHgPZKcCzyiOqpy--UHZ6mypjbFDxX8T-PYrTJhaawMQBoAAkJYZ_ymtjlgAdc77OPloDsIHJn_kIJ4LfOuZXoq4KdbAI7zzobk317F_I8RLM=w1193-h672-no)(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/UlpH9Moq5-AcpYWZHM4XnUW-T43s247nimQVQ49UE8AEqB8pL5tf540ozOw27IClPOPKs_0k_6k0KpKLUDDq7rUNLRCv9kuaFmeSybXoGgZDnRGFvCRt1BFjb9m6XoN6MVCwfOu6bAiNm_DPPSdX0Z-xnvLXwGLFUfkVy0jjqQMRcqPYWiOJL6RfJLUXpaCa0OT0j7b6NOIst-AkcvYEuV-85LGC4bA4rcgkvWFxAL25sojLzd8fwdKhdnL4lW_huEteS-tEZ6JMOEKED7KYutnRzwVdrkMB55fWUZFedw_arvSxhV9r51KlE7aPbMJlSgaJVrO6SMwqhk80j5hF0L-lltbOrSVWRK8t06bZfbuOy_HWJaWKpM-X2Mri8nbsWI2LFPTrW_QvUP8_hUdPE-7j-3r6KYXW54ihM33X4u6nnI-pa1vuu3m23qvWiRuTqHpTN0yC-uMSwYwqIGyn69MLEcr3M8TT0tEfaB1LItJilJZpaEvtN5Rpw-N46L4Y1flhdNyzHZVFi1JVtsBuYXVdfq4NKJ_38c6MK9ZIw5EcffpG2FVf7EgLWpdQ_3Lze9s8bjJpxeynOB3EYYHT5ou_lQ2BLerpgWdmvkE=w641-h854-no)
I can't describe the utter transcendent elegancy of that thick coiled pipe...
Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: SONY on June 14, 2018, 01:17:39 pm
Ahahahahahaha, I get it now, 8GB of RAM for the SMACH Z+ 8GB or RAM for laptop = 16GB of RAM in total :)
Was wondering who they fit 16GB of RAM in there :D
Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: DiegoSLTS on June 16, 2018, 04:38:42 am
I can't describe the utter transcendent elegancy of that thick coiled pipe...
Wait... what... what's that supposed to be? They're just running the games on the laptop and using the SmachZ as screen and controller?
Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: EvilDragon on June 17, 2018, 01:30:09 am
Whatever it is, it's awesome :D

Sent from my Moto Z using Tapatalk

Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: SONY on June 17, 2018, 03:49:26 am
I'm gonna get 2 of these :D
Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: ruthan on June 21, 2018, 05:06:32 am
I tried to contact them about forum and they said that its for backers only.. I would say other mark of scam, i dont see nowhere any Kickstarter or Indiegogo email input for backers..
Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: sagadego on August 14, 2018, 07:01:14 pm
new video from StopDrop&Retro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDwEwjYcNCA
Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: Manofaction89 on August 14, 2018, 07:03:06 pm
StopDrop&Retro is the only reason why people are still caring about Smach Z
Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: lemmywinks on August 14, 2018, 10:31:08 pm
StopDrop&Retro is the only reason why people are still caring about Smach Z

Yeah I hope they keep up the pretence that they are actually going to produce a console, that way SD&R gets more content for videos!
Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: SONY on August 14, 2018, 11:12:35 pm
Plot twist, StopDrop&Retro are actually the people behind or in charge of SMACH Z...
Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: Stremon on September 22, 2018, 03:20:18 am
I just saw a news that says the smachz can be tested in TGS!
Except... It can't be switched on, it's just an empty case!
But they do have a lot of CG to prove that they are working on something real after all those years of not showing any working prototype!
Man they really have no shame, bringing such an obvious scam in the TGS and making people buy the product full price (minimum 800$!!) on their website...
Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: AVahne on September 22, 2018, 05:48:26 am
I just saw a news that says the smachz can be tested in TGS!
Except... It can't be switched on, it's just an empty case!
But they do have a lot of CG to prove that they are working on something real after all those years of not showing any working prototype!
Man they really have no shame, bringing such an obvious scam in the TGS and making people buy the product full price (minimum 800$!!) on their website...

I had read news that AMD would be showcasing it at their TGS booth. Now I wonder if AMD actually paid any attention to this thing.
Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: vcoleiro1 on September 22, 2018, 06:04:34 am
Smach had their own booth at TGS.   Not sure, but they may have also had a display in the AMD stand and the Spanish dev stand.  Here is there stand they had at TGS

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/395027291341848576/492671708675833857/SmachzOwnBoothAtTGS.jpg)

Here is a member of the GPD team checking them out below. GPD were also at TGS

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/323881239800971265/492163699906314272/image3.jpg)
Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: SONY on September 22, 2018, 11:56:22 am
Boring...
Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: AVahne on September 25, 2018, 05:07:20 am
Here is a member of the GPD team checking them out below. GPD were also at TGS

Pretty sure the whole GPD team had a good laugh after he got back from the booth.
Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: SONY on September 25, 2018, 01:34:33 pm
R.I.P. SMACH Z
Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: lemmywinks on September 25, 2018, 06:21:26 pm
So on a more serious note has anybody on here actually given these guys money? Although it's fun to mock the SmachZ team for being clueless dreamers there are quite a few people who will lose some serious money on this I think.
Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: vcoleiro1 on September 26, 2018, 12:41:25 am
To be fair, they do have investors covering them.  One of which has a person on the team. Also the HW company they are using to develop the PCB does seem to be half decent.  They have shown a video to backers this week of their PCB booting up to Windows 10.   They have also shown the molds for the Smach Z case.  I would say that it might be a chance for sometime next year.  Still a risk though, and I wouldn't recommend anyone back it until the finish the thing and it releases
Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: lemmywinks on September 26, 2018, 11:20:58 pm
Investors aren't a limitless source of funding though and the Smach guys have already shown they can burn through other peoples' money and have nothing to show for it with the whole Rhombio saga. They are on their second injection of cash and still have their original orders to fulfil whilst building up debt and dividing their company up. Maybe they have the funds to produce a very large initial batch and/or have big orders from retailers, with the limited appeal and high price of this thing I would doubt that. You have to wonder how many they could actually sell before it reaches saturation point.
Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: androguy on November 18, 2018, 01:06:06 pm
Guys
They have a working prototype
https://youtu.be/Zn47Q9ka61s
https://youtu.be/M7DIIk7oQEw
Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: Manofaction89 on November 18, 2018, 02:37:18 pm
Yeah, that's what they said 2 years ago.
Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: sagadego on November 18, 2018, 07:10:52 pm
also it's entering mass production early 2019
https://wccftech.com/smach-z-enter-production-early-2019/ yeh, sure
Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: AVahne on November 19, 2018, 04:55:09 am
They've said that plenty of times in the past.
Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: MOFO on November 20, 2018, 11:33:07 am
Not entirely sure why everyone is so sour with the smach z .
I get that they took a very long time to bring the product to where it is but when they release.....great if they don?t......no big deal.
Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: lemmywinks on November 20, 2018, 06:01:47 pm
It's because they tell lots of lies and mislead their backers with blatant fakery. Hopefully they do ship units out as these aren't cheap and it wouldn't be nice to see so many people lose out.

Still looks bloody awful, would be interesting to see a 10"-12" budget laptop with this APU and a decent trackpad & keyboard though.
Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: davidgilmour on January 29, 2019, 09:01:15 pm
It's because they tell lots of lies and mislead their backers with blatant fakery. Hopefully they do ship units out as these aren't cheap and it wouldn't be nice to see so many people lose out.

Still looks bloody awful, would be interesting to see a 10"-12" budget laptop with this APU and a decent trackpad & keyboard though.

Smach z is alive!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1UoG-xBlos
Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: NTMBK on February 03, 2019, 10:06:14 am
I mean, I'll believe it once independent reviewers get their hands on a finished device... but it seems promising.
Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: Nintendo on March 01, 2019, 01:35:49 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEp983Jt4ig

Fast forward to 1:00
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Post by: Raizon on March 02, 2019, 11:34:35 am
In the video they say you can upgrade the Smachz Ram,SSD, sock?!? woow that's really interesting but at what price...
Hope they can finally released it this year, it seems promising.
Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: Nintendo on March 02, 2019, 12:34:42 pm
Here's a video from last month that reveals some promising developments, showcasing some old-ish fps games.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9GYkkv_2IU


And once more, here's the video from the previous page, just in case people missed it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEp983Jt4ig

Fast forward to 1:00
Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: Raizon on June 05, 2019, 04:23:06 pm
Smach z just release another video, they will be at E3. link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbQddtvBrr0
Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: Raizon on June 11, 2019, 08:20:05 am
Hi Guys i just found this video on youtube about Ryzen V1605B Gaming Handheld (Smach Z, GPD Win 2 Max)
Link: https://youtu.be/aa73b00kgd4?t=1

it seems the battery is consumed really fast...    ???
Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: Medallish on June 12, 2019, 08:38:23 am
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/323881239800971265/588138661778817034/download_20190611_155228.jpg)
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/323881239800971265/588138661246271538/download_20190611_155224.jpg)

HobbyConsolas(Spanish) Video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Thzzl1Y-GkQ)
Attendee video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENcRIpq_sVw&feature=youtu.be)
THG Article (https://www.tomshardware.com/news/smach-z-handheld-pc-amd,39632.html)
Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: Raizon on June 13, 2019, 06:38:05 pm
there three more videos

links: trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXm8D5EmOtk

monster hunter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCvyYKyHrxE

and a demo at e3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6CbXmPaWRU
Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: Nintendo on June 18, 2019, 02:45:45 pm
When Smach Z finally releases, I'm definitely getting one or two :)
Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: MOFO on July 21, 2019, 08:22:14 am
Well its finally here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QclbkG1WnQ
Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: NTMBK on August 06, 2019, 12:58:46 pm
Well its finally here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QclbkG1WnQ

Well I'll be damned, they actually shipped something.
Title: Re: smachz lives!!!!!!!
Post by: Nintendo on August 06, 2019, 03:28:46 pm
Well, it hasn't officially been released yet, so no one has their hands on a retail model. Also, this!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9GzVekrIQA

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=m9GzVekrIQA