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Author Topic: Gemei A330 coming soon to Chinavasion  (Read 137556 times)

dingoo

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Re: Gemei A330 coming soon to Chinavasion
« Reply #200 on: October 29, 2010, 02:57:50 pm »
Photos and a video of the wireless function of the A330 were published, look:
http://bbs.imp3.net/thread-922811-1-1.html

EDIT: On this link above you will not find the link for the video. Probably, it's restricted for special users of the site. Fortunately I was able to find the video and upload it into YouTube. Here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZ2w5K4IYVc
« Last Edit: October 29, 2010, 03:08:09 pm by dingoo »
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Frank_fjs

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Re: Gemei A330 coming soon to Chinavasion
« Reply #201 on: October 30, 2010, 04:15:56 am »
That is insane! Finally, 2 player support. Can't wait to get my hands on one of these.

Any update on when you'll be getting them in stock RoseLi?

Thanks for the videos, keep them coming. :)

pingpongHD

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Re: Gemei A330 coming soon to Chinavasion
« Reply #202 on: October 30, 2010, 08:39:12 am »
That is insane! Finally, 2 player support. Can't wait to get my hands on one of these.

Any update on when you'll be getting them in stock RoseLi?

Thanks for the videos, keep them coming. :)

if you know somebody in your Neighbourhood with the same device, great.
i do not know anybody in my city who loves retro-stuff. not so great.

maybe someone will bring "XBConnect / Xlink KAI " with gemei features.
playing SF3 in europe with gamba in africa,lol
« Last Edit: October 30, 2010, 08:41:22 am by pingpongHD »

gibberish

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Re: Gemei A330 coming soon to Chinavasion
« Reply #203 on: October 30, 2010, 10:06:13 am »
yeah i doubt anyone i know will ever have one of these. i might buy one for my brother, just so i can beat him at racing gears (if gba is supported of course).

Ikonz101

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Re: Gemei A330 coming soon to Chinavasion
« Reply #204 on: October 30, 2010, 06:54:09 pm »
Looking forward to this.. The selling point for me is backwards compatibility with all Dingux software on the A320. If all this works on the A330 I will be buying one. Just have to wait and see ;)

Ikonz101

R0M4N

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Re: Gemei A330 coming soon to Chinavasion
« Reply #205 on: October 30, 2010, 11:42:58 pm »
Even with linux on it, I cant imagine the a320-dingux-stuff won't need ANY adjustment... (like gp2x-games need to be ported to the wiz).
so hopefully it won't be hard to port it, but still, no backwards compatibility.
(i suppose an gp2x-emulator (like "Ginge") is more likely, because of the arm-cpu?)

clach04

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Re: Gemei A330 coming soon to Chinavasion
« Reply #206 on: October 31, 2010, 01:48:34 am »
Looking forward to this.. The selling point for me is backwards compatibility with all Dingux software on the A320. If all this works on the A330 I will be buying one. Just have to wait and see ;)


Sadly backwards compatibility is almost certainly a no-go. Note the cpu type is (supposedly) ARM in all the information threads that have been posted. A320 is MIPS (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dingoo) which is a very different processor.

R0M4N

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Re: Gemei A330 coming soon to Chinavasion
« Reply #207 on: October 31, 2010, 11:25:21 pm »
Booboo showing his a330 (electronics porn ;)) with first comments on dingux.com

Quote from: booboo on dingux.com (Sunday, October 31, 2010)
[...] We're still working out the details (NDA, possible trip to China) to acquire the required info on the CC1800 SoC (system-on-chip) and the A330 itself in order to port dingux, and it might still take a bit longer.
[...]Please bear in mind that I'm not sure to which point the samples I got are definitve production machines, so take it with a pinch of salt:
  • The construction build feels good but not as good as the A320.
  • The LCD is exposed, i.e. there is no plastic protection (which is part of the enclosure) over it, as happens in the A320 and the X760+. This is definitely a no-no.
  • The LCD is a "delta matrix" type. Don't know much about the technology (I'll appreciate links), but it basically means that the color dots are not aligned in an orthogonal matrix but spread in a zig-zag pattern. This is supposed to be better for displaying pictures and video, but I think it's not good for games.

Please let me stress what I already said: these might not be definitive production units and the final product to market may have many of these thingies fixed. Also, note that ChinaChip actively supporting linux on their machines is a huge advance, and a first in the chinese PMP market as far as I know. And more powerful machines will come in the near future.

One final comment on the CC1800: it as a video processing unit (VPU) capable of doing scaling and all kinds of color conversion. The JZ4732 in the A320 has an image processing unit (IPU) which unfortunately is only good for converting YUV to RGB. This is very useful for video playing but useless for gaming. The CC1800's VPU will allow to provide each game with the framebuffer resolution and color space which is best suited, allowing for a significant increase in performance. Being an ARM processor will allow also to use the already existing assembly optimized emulation cores, for another boost in performance.

dingoo

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Re: Gemei A330 coming soon to Chinavasion
« Reply #208 on: November 01, 2010, 04:16:15 am »
A kind of unboxing of the A330 can be seen here:
http://bbs.imp3.net/thread-924095-1-1.html
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Frank_fjs

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Re: Gemei A330 coming soon to Chinavasion
« Reply #209 on: November 01, 2010, 06:04:02 am »
I hope they omit the 'MP5' logo from the bottom of the console. The picture on the box depicts a console without it but it's present on the actual physical console in the photos which is interesting.

Also interesting to see the included accessories, I can clearly make out a USB cable and headphones but am not sure what else is there. A Kingston Micro SD adaptor is shown and it mentions in the forum post that this is included. If it is that's nice but not a big deal as they only cost a dollar or two to purchase. They should have just made the device accept a micro SD card and be done with it.

I would hope that the final revision includes a TV-out cable and a wall charger. The TV-out cable would be the priority though, I could live without the wall charger as I imagine you can simply charge from a USB port. I recall reading that it's supposed to support component video output too, if true I'd love to see the cable for that and hope that it's included. A generic 3rd party AV cable is easy enough to come by but I imagine one with component output would be more difficult to find, if they even exist. Is a headphone style socket even sufficient enough for the 3 separate signals required by component? The device supposedly supports full HD resolution via TV-out so it would be stupid to limit it to a standard AV connection.

pingpongHD

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Re: Gemei A330 coming soon to Chinavasion
« Reply #210 on: November 01, 2010, 07:29:37 am »
1080i should be the max output via a 3,5" jack.

the new a330 has a 64mb RAM now , right?

gibberish

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Re: Gemei A330 coming soon to Chinavasion
« Reply #211 on: November 01, 2010, 08:27:25 am »
I hope they omit the 'MP5' logo from the bottom of the console. The picture on the box depicts a console without it but it's present on the actual physical console in the photos which is interesting.

according the imp3 it says MPS, not MP5. i guess it stands for multi player system or something like that. but yeah, i'd prefer it without as well.

pingpongHD

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Re: Gemei A330 coming soon to Chinavasion
« Reply #212 on: November 01, 2010, 09:11:22 am »
without any logo on frontcase would be better.

dingoo

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Re: Gemei A330 coming soon to Chinavasion
« Reply #213 on: November 01, 2010, 03:04:13 pm »
More news from booboo:

Quote
I believe there's some confusion on the DA330 specs. As I mentioned in the previous post, I have only preliminary, general, info, but this is what I found out so far (don't take it for granted anyway):

- CC1800 processor (ARM926 400MHz).
- 320x240 LCD, slightly larger than the A320 one.
- 64MB RAM.
- 2.4 GHz communication module. This is a true radio device and not just a keyboard hack. Enables multiplayer and custom peripherals.
- USB OTG port, which allows connecting USB devices, but you'll need external +5V power (i.e. a powered hub).

The CC1800 has some nice features: the OMIP seems to be a video decoding coprocessor, and the VPU seems to be some kind of video post processor which can do quick scaling and color conversion before spitting out the data to the LCD.

I would say that the CC1800 CPU core belongs in the same class than the JZ4732 in the A320, however, being an ARM architecture has the advantage of the existing assembly optimized emulation cores. I bet that the VPU will allow a sizeable boost in performance by offloading the color conversion work from the SDL code.

64MB vs. 32MB in the A320 are a big advantage too.
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Frank_fjs

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Re: Gemei A330 coming soon to Chinavasion
« Reply #214 on: November 01, 2010, 03:11:21 pm »
Glad to hear that they have doubled the RAM. I'd still want more but it's better than nothing.

Seeing how well the A320 performs with emulators when overclocked to around the 400Mhz mark, this new A330 should fly with the new CPU and extra RAM. Hopefully a smooth experience can be had on most emulators without the need for overclocking.

R0M4N

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Re: Gemei A330 coming soon to Chinavasion
« Reply #215 on: November 01, 2010, 03:16:49 pm »
Like I already wrote (several times >:() month ago: Gemei confirmed that the MPS-logo will be removed in the final version  ;)

@dingoo: thanks for all the "time-sweetening" links :)
« Last Edit: November 01, 2010, 03:19:58 pm by R0M4N »

dingoo

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Re: Gemei A330 coming soon to Chinavasion
« Reply #216 on: November 01, 2010, 03:18:42 pm »
Like I already wrote (several times >:() month ago: Gemei confirmed that the MPS-logo will be removed in the final version  ;)

@dingoo: thanks for all the "time-sweetening" links :)

AMEN! ;D

And, you're welcome, friend!  :D
« Last Edit: November 01, 2010, 03:40:19 pm by dingoo »
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pingpongHD

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Re: Gemei A330 coming soon to Chinavasion
« Reply #217 on: November 01, 2010, 03:36:33 pm »
Like I already wrote (several times >:() month ago: Gemei confirmed that the MPS-logo will be removed in the final version  ;)

@dingoo: thanks for all the "time-sweetening" links :)
helo my angry friend!
im new here, ididnt see any fact like it.
but im glad we have someone like you sharing his information with us.

this is germenglish, you dont have to understand........

R0M4N

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Re: Gemei A330 coming soon to Chinavasion
« Reply #218 on: November 01, 2010, 05:22:49 pm »
@pingpongHD: It's no big deal  ::)
first: I understand quite well ;) and secondly: German is my native language too  ;)

dingoo

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Re: Gemei A330 coming soon to Chinavasion
« Reply #219 on: November 01, 2010, 05:25:40 pm »
@pingpongHD: It's no big deal  ::)
first: I understand quite well ;) and secondly: German is my native language too  ;)

Presumably because you're from Austria, that's right?  ;D
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