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Title: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Dexidus on October 08, 2012, 12:57:42 pm
Howdy all - I figured it might be beneficial to start a videos & reviews thread for the GCW Zero (actually ruffnutts did and I ran with it).

Rather than cluttering the million page GCW zero thread, we can post our videos (gooooooo q!) and our reviews of the device (when it arrives) in one place!

If it's a good idea, let's roll with it! If not, I'm sure a moderator can close and remove it or something, but here's tryin' right?!
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: MightyJAK on October 08, 2012, 06:27:37 pm
I support this thread, and will add a video review when I get my GCW. 8)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: ace9094 on October 09, 2012, 07:29:50 am
Easy to find all in 1 place :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zwbzlffciio

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wT8mC2mgUF8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ByntXTSCBM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6dikfuBByM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OwUKUAh-F0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDgUD7V3u3g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6dikfuBByM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_IXRT3rxQk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFvF9HfHg-U

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gk4U2qsorvQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymc--9fIAxc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tI4LVQSnshQ
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: ace9094 on October 10, 2012, 09:53:20 pm
bump :)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: ruffnutts on October 10, 2012, 10:01:47 pm
Nice one  8)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: MightyJAK on October 10, 2012, 10:26:25 pm
{a bunch of videos}

You've got the "Flare performance on GCW Zero and GPH Caanoo as of 20 Sep. 2012" video in there twice (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymc--9fIAxc).
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: zear on October 10, 2012, 10:48:36 pm
I'd say remove the videos that show the pre-OD chinese firmware. Since that won't be shipping with the device, the footage might be misleading.
Most of the videos show OD, but ie. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cN2wZM28Gw shows the chinese firmware.
Title: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Dexidus on October 10, 2012, 11:52:43 pm
Awwwwesome stuff! Now we just gotta wait to post our own reviews and this thread will be bumpin!
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: ace9094 on October 11, 2012, 10:22:59 pm
I'd say remove the videos that show the pre-OD chinese firmware. Since that won't be shipping with the device, the footage might be misleading.
Most of the videos show OD, but ie. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cN2wZM28Gw shows the chinese firmware.

Will do... :)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: ruffnutts on October 17, 2012, 09:53:10 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8--a7f2LalQ
Title: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Dexidus on October 18, 2012, 12:42:50 am
Awwwwwesome :)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: qbertaddict on October 18, 2012, 01:32:37 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gLt5hQQZtQ
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Articus on October 18, 2012, 03:24:21 am
D-pad looks very responsive and precise . . . I LOVE it!!   :)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: qbertaddict on October 19, 2012, 09:54:04 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnUwRh14tYg
A friend came down to play the GCW and did an interview with me. I sound like a douche but you can finally see what my fat ass looks like!
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: ruffnutts on October 19, 2012, 12:27:59 pm
Qbert look's like my mate Jason.... a ringer infact lol

THE SCREEN LOOKS AWESOME!
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Articus on October 19, 2012, 02:56:34 pm
Blue on black console looks great!!  silver too . . . ;D
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: qbertaddict on October 21, 2012, 07:54:09 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aQJD07FzWY
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Articus on October 21, 2012, 08:33:31 pm
Another nice video, thanks.

Its my unterstanding that hardfloats are hardware based calculations, and softfloats are software based.  This explains the speed boost.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: johnnyonflame on October 21, 2012, 09:58:31 pm
Another nice video, thanks.

Its my unterstanding that hardfloats are hardware based calculations, and softfloats are software based.  This explains the speed boost.

In fact, yes, this is "right", problem is that calling it a "hardfloat" is wrong per-se, but we do it anyways because others will still get it.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Agrajag on October 22, 2012, 11:00:03 pm
Hexen II looks great!  I'm looking forward to getting my hands on one of these little beauties.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Erik Twice on October 29, 2012, 02:00:29 pm
Hey, I'm thinking about writing a review when I get my machine but I've never reviewed a piece of hardware like this so what do you think I should mention besides the obvious?
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Frank_fjs on October 29, 2012, 02:25:46 pm
Hey, I'm thinking about writing a review when I get my machine but I've never reviewed a piece of hardware like this so what do you think I should mention besides the obvious?

Just be casual and to the point, be yourself basically. :)

I dislike it when reviewers spend 7 minutes dribbling on about crap before they actually show the device and power it on, just get to the point. I don't really care about your pet cat or what you had for breakfast, the internet has rapidly diminished my attention span so just talk about what's necessary/relevant.

To put it in simple bullet points:

- Spend some time with the device before reviewing, don't just get all excited the moment it arrives and shoot an uninformed video based upon emotion.

- Briefly talk about impressions of build quality (I say briefly as this is subjective, but if something is glaringly wrong with the device or conversely, particularly outstanding, point it out.)

- BUTTONS! Play some games that require some combo moves and report what the d-pad and buttons feel like. Stiff, mushy, clicky, responsive etc.

- Screen. Is it clear, viewable from a reasonable angle, good colours, do objects look smooth in motion etc.

- Sound. Loud, clear, speakers placed in a manner that they don't become obstructed when the console is held?

- Battery life, charging time.

- Emulation! Play a variety of games and report your findings.

- Other miscellaneous features such as the boot time, menu interface, emu interface, other apps and features that might be on the device etc.

- Close with your overall opinion of the device. Worthy purchase, worth the price, any regrets or things you would like to see improved upon?
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Erik Twice on October 31, 2012, 10:15:11 am
Oh, don't worry I've been writing for a while, just wanted to know if I was missing something people considered important. It will be written too, more information in less time and without looking silly, if you ask me  ;)

I didn't think about the speakers thing, though I doubt they will be covered in the CWG. What I was thinking of doing was trying the hardest to emulate titles on each platform or looking at the obvious, no need to really cover NES emulation much, we all know it will be perfect. I think I can do it in the same time I normally do a review, if not less, simply because I plan to take it with me to while commuting  ;)

I will need to look into getting screenshots, though!
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: qbertaddict on November 01, 2012, 08:47:42 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8dLa5UDV5E
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: ruffnutts on November 01, 2012, 09:07:57 am
Thanks for anoher amazing video.. loving the quakeII port with analog controls awesome stuff 8)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: hippo22 on November 01, 2012, 09:48:11 am
amazing, also thanks to the dev who make such things possible
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Articus on November 28, 2012, 05:16:07 am
Hello everyone!  Heres a quick review of the GCW prototype I was so anxiously waiting for.  Justin(GCW) was very generous in giving away these prototypes.  Thank you.  Also, Qbert was kind enough and sent me this unit.  It looks just like the one from his original GCW prototype video.  He did a great job packing it, shipping it, and communicating tracking information with me. This device came with OpenDingux pre-installed but nothing else.  Qbertaddict, Johnnyonflame, Ayla, and Zear have been instrumental in helping me set up the device.  I will break down this little review into hardware, software, suggestions for improvement, and overall opinion of the device.  This will be a very generalized review.

Hardware:
The size of the unit is small enough to fit in your pocket but large enought to feel comfortable while playing.
Its size is great for retro gaming on the go!  The Zero proto feels good in my hands and all buttons are reachable.  The button layout is very similar to a SNES controller.  The D-pad along with the x, y, a, b, buttons feel like they belong on a higher end device such as a Nintendo DS.   Speaking of a NDS, the xyab buttons are of similar size.  The Dpad is one solid piece and very comfortable and responsive.   The left and right shoulder buttons are nice, feel good, but could be a bit 'clicky.'  In fact my left shoulder also 'sticks' every now and then, but this could be due to an old football injury, lol!  In all seriousness though, this occured when i would press left button, it would take a split second to pop back up.  Still very playable, just annoyed me enough to fix it.  I quickly and easily improved this by opening the unit (4 screws), comparing both buttons, and shaving a small sliver of plastic from the left button.  I brought this up to other devs but it appears only one other unit has this issue.  Aside from that minor, easily corrected issue, all control buttons are very impressive.  With the buttons out of the way, this leads me to the lcd screen.  The screen GCW chose for this device is, in one word, perfect!  The size, brightness, colors, and resolution are awesome for its intended purpose, retro gaming.  I will conclude with the analog stick. This is just another great choice in hardware!  The stick feels great and works at it should.   As far as i know, the Zero is still the only device with true analog! In the short time time Ive had this proto, I cant remember how many times Ive fired up a classic game and gotten that warm fuzzy nostalgic feeling.  I truly feel my childhood coming back, thanks to this device.

Software:
Luckily, the GCW team chose to go with Open Dingux and with a front end Im already familiar with, Gmenu2x.  This made some of my transition very easy and makes the system FLY.  Boot up speed is quick and load times are faster than Speedy Gonzales.  Also the GCW devs deserve alot of credit for they have made the istallation package system a breeze to use.  Its as simple as moving one file into the APPS folder, rebooting, and presto! Like magic, the item is installed!  FYI, updates are installed the very same way.  Please follow my suggestion and get yourself a program like Filezilla so you can transfer files from your PC to the device via usb.  A word of advice, when trying to FTP into the Zero through usb, make sure Zero is "on"!  lol!  Yes yes, i made this blunder.  Its not the proudest moment of my life, but it is what it is.  At the moment none of the updated emus/games have been made public, so i tried a few from the a320 OD build.  Most are not operational and if they do run, they are playable and run great but with sound artifacts and distortion.  Needless to say, i wanted to game, so turned down the sound or muted it all together.  This holds true for most a320 apps/emus.  The few ones ive gathered from the dev team that are for the Zero, run almost flawless.  There might be a small noticeable sound glich before the start of a game but, ive noticed it goes away once gameplay starts.  So far, Ive tested emulators, homebrew games, and classic PC ports.  Expiriences vary between each one, but again, all the ones supplied by dev team have ended in positive results.  These folks have put a great deal of work and effort into this project, and it shows!  I cant say this enough, I cant wait to see what else this bad boy can do, play, and emulate. 

Suggested improvements:
I dont have much.  I know the xy button thing was raised, but thats not really an issue in my opinion.  The left button issue I noticed with my proto might only occur to a small number of units. Its easy to fix, so I dont consider it an issue either.  The Dev team is planning on making the software public soon, and also planning on releasing instructions on how to set up Zero.  So that issues is being worked on.  I can really think of any suggestions!   :)  Oh yeah, my proto has no screen cover, its naked like the backend of north-bound mule.  lol!

Overall opinion:
I think its clear that ive fallen in love with this unit.  If the SEs or the basic units are anywhere near this prototype, this project will truly be epic.  I purchased 2 SE's and I want another, but why?  purely selfish reasons!!

From my experiences with the prototype so far, its clear that the GCW units, truly are "built for gamers by gamers!"

Articus(Dingoonity.com)
Title: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Dexidus on November 28, 2012, 11:02:26 am
Wo. Nice one buddy!
Let me get this straight - you can ftp into the zero to transfer files?! Awwwesome, because I primarily use a mac these days, and every device/sd I put roms onto simply fails to run because of the mac's stupid 'ghost files' (that's what I call them anyway, those '._xyz' files) so I have to use my wife's PC just to copy files over (lame).

The device sounds awesome man, congrats on the prototype!
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: zear on November 28, 2012, 12:36:12 pm
You'll be even able to ftp to it via wifi.

Let me clarify on the A320 compatibility. Originally we have planned full compatibility with A320 OD binaries, however it turned out GCW0 has an FPU (Floating-point unit) hardware. As it would be a waste not to use it to unburden the cpu from floating-point calculations, we have added the FPU support. Although this required recompilation of all the libraries in the rootfs with mhard-float, breaking the backwards compatibility with A320, which uses msoft-float (floating-point calculations with cpu). So after the A320 backwards compatibility was already broken, we decided to go one step further and update all the libraries in the rootfs to the newest versions, further breaking A320 compatibility ;)

Now, does this mean we won't be able to play A320 games on our GCW0s? No. Since the hardware and button layout are similar, all we have to do is compile another rootfs with msoft-float and no FPU support and whenever a game wants to use msoft-float, point it to this rootfs. We haven't done this yet (we're too busy with more important styuff), but we're pretty sure this will work. Although the devteam will try to recompile most of the A320 OD software to give the ones using floating-point a nice boost of performance thanks to FPU.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: MightyJAK on November 28, 2012, 04:55:55 pm
Can we have a video of the Vectrex emulator (with side-by-side comparison with a real Vectrex)?  :D
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Articus on November 28, 2012, 10:41:58 pm
Can we have a video of the Vectrex emulator (with side-by-side comparison with a real Vectrex)?  :D
I wish i could help, sorry!  I dont have a Vectrex, or an emulator of it installed.  I dont know if theyre even working on one at the moment, I havent asked.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Erik Twice on November 29, 2012, 06:43:32 pm
The difference is also going to be huge, the GCW doesn't have a vector display.

But should it? Erik Twice says yes!
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: danilop2k2 on November 29, 2012, 09:11:44 pm
Can we have a video of the Vectrex emulator (with side-by-side comparison with a real Vectrex)?  :D
I wish i could help, sorry!  I dont have a Vectrex, or an emulator of it installed.  I dont know if theyre even working on one at the moment, I havent asked.


I have a vectrex and a Dingoo380 with the same emulator as the one on GCW,
of course the real thing can do better diagonals,

but the higher the resolution , the less you'll notice  ;D
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: cruelcynic on November 30, 2012, 03:40:45 am
I have spent a little bit of time with my zero and figure I would do a quick early impression on it. This just for the prototype mind you.

When I first picked it up the thing I noticed immediately was how light it is. Some people prefer heft to a device but I like my handhelds light. It feels about as heavy as an old ps2 controller. You can carry it all day in your pocket and not notice.  The plastic is matte and does not seem to attract finger prints. I gave the system a good twist to see if it would flex and got nothing. Seems well built.

The buttons are comfortable and very responsive. I have had no issues with the dpad or buttons miss firing so far.

The speakers are loud. When I stared up a game the first time it actually startled me. I was not expecting that.

I despise ghosting on a screen and returned my early psp because of the problem.  So I was actively looking for that or any other abnormalities on screen and was pleased to find none. Not even a hint of ghosting. Great colors and a bright backlight make this screen a winner in my book.

When I get a chance to spend more time with it this weekend I will expand on impressions so far.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: zear on November 30, 2012, 07:45:29 pm
Our devteam had a little eduke32 match today:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpUSf5EmeY4

List of players:
* zear (Poland)
* pcercuei (Chile)
* johnnyonflame (Brazil)
* qbertaddict (as Duke) (USA)

All participants playing on their GCW Zeros ;)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: qbertaddict on November 30, 2012, 08:14:50 pm
Can we have a video of the Vectrex emulator (with side-by-side comparison with a real Vectrex)?  :D
I wish i could help, sorry!  I dont have a Vectrex, or an emulator of it installed.  I dont know if theyre even working on one at the moment, I havent asked.


I have a vectrex and a Dingoo380 with the same emulator as the one on GCW,
of course the real thing can do better diagonals,

but the higher the resolution , the less you'll notice  ;D
I have a true vectrex and I dont care what resolution screen you have you will never be able to emulate it perfectly. The only thing that comes close is parajve and aae on the pc which has a lot of filters to give the effect of tracers and try to emulate the nice straight vector lines
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: ruffnutts on November 30, 2012, 08:50:53 pm
Cool video zear thanks for sharing mate ;)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Skyline969 on November 30, 2012, 10:27:20 pm
Our devteam had a little eduke32 match today:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpUSf5EmeY4

List of players:
* zear (Poland)
* pcercuei (Chile)
* johnnyonflame (Brazil)
* qbertaddict (as Duke) (USA)

All participants playing on their GCW Zeros ;)

Is there black tape on the case below the screen in that video, or is that some strange glare?
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: zear on November 30, 2012, 10:39:31 pm
Is there black tape on the case below the screen in that video, or is that some strange glare?
That is a tape to cover an old logo on my prototype.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: qbertaddict on December 03, 2012, 02:11:03 am
Another day another video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_tr02kZGMU
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: skelton on December 03, 2012, 05:47:16 pm

Does anybody know if the current FBa available for GCW emulate CPS3 system? Would be nice a video of that (in case that emulate it of course).
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: qbertaddict on December 03, 2012, 09:27:58 pm
New video. Thanks goes out to d_smagin for his great work

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mxuby_W1KEM
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: qbertaddict on December 06, 2012, 11:19:59 pm
Another

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_bOOJSUbzM
Title: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Dexidus on December 06, 2012, 11:27:39 pm
New video. Thanks goes out to d_smagin for his great work

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mxuby_W1KEM

Omg, mayhem in monsterland! I cant seem to get any version of this working on my caanoo. Awesome!
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: doki pen on December 08, 2012, 06:13:17 pm
Hey! Has anybody tried the HDMI out on this thing? Would love to see a video to see what the quality's like on a TV.

Also, would two of these link together for multiplayer? Not overly important, tbh.

Basically, I'm looking for a portable/home console that will play a massive range of retro games with a retro-appropriate screen resolution, with smooth emulation that has nothing to do with Blaze (so Neo Geo X is out). This looks as though it might do the trick. I've considered everdrive but it's like £80 per console!

PS: I already have a Dingoo 320 but its OS's 16 bit emulation is not that great and I haven't seen a way to get AV out on dingux. So I'm hoping GCW zero is the console for me.  :)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Surkow on December 08, 2012, 06:19:33 pm
Hey! Has anybody tried the HDMI out on this thing? Would love to see a video to see what the quality's like on a TV.

Also, would two of these link together for multiplayer? Not overly important, tbh.

Basically, I'm looking for a portable/home console that will play a massive range of retro games with a retro-appropriate screen resolution, with smooth emulation that has nothing to do with Blaze (so Neo Geo X is out). This looks as though it might do the trick. I've considered everdrive but it's like £80 per console!

PS: I already have a Dingoo 320 but its OS's 16 bit emulation is not that great and I haven't seen a way to get AV out on dingux. So I'm hoping GCW zero is the console for me.  :)

HDMI is still being worked on.

And you obviously haven't tried OpenDingux. Which has proper TV-out.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Agrajag on December 10, 2012, 11:11:59 pm
@qbertaddict - Thanks for all the great videos!  I just had a thought about how you could improve them though:

How about building a little rig to hold the Zero and camera together so the screen is completely stationary, rather than constantly moving due to you pressing the controls, and also zoomed in a bit more so the screen takes up the entire frame?  In the absence of HDMI out, this would give the best possible representation of the gameplay.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: ruffnutts on December 11, 2012, 09:15:28 am
You mean like this - I bought one and it works great up to 5" screens but having said that there's nothing wrong with QB's videos whish I could get mine as clear has he's with no reflection.. these do help though ;)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-STYLE-UNIVERSAL-MOBILE-PHONE-PDA-IN-CAR-SUCTION-MOUNT-HOLDER-/290742953534?ssPageName=ADME:L:OC:GB:3160

ruffnutts
Title: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Dexidus on December 11, 2012, 11:14:03 am
I dunno, maybe it's just me, but i don't mind seeing who is shooting the video once in a while at all. It adds a bit of 'hey i know that guy!' to them! Q, just keep doin what you're doin man!
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Wortsenawl on December 11, 2012, 01:01:06 pm
You mean like this - I bought one and it works great up to 5" screens but having said that there's nothing wrong with QB's videos whish I could get mine as clear has he's with no reflection.. these do help though ;)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-STYLE-UNIVERSAL-MOBILE-PHONE-PDA-IN-CAR-SUCTION-MOUNT-HOLDER-/290742953534?ssPageName=ADME:L:OC:GB:3160

ruffnutts

That reminds me of the wee robots in Red Dwarf.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: qbertaddict on December 12, 2012, 02:28:10 am
@qbertaddict - Thanks for all the great videos!  I just had a thought about how you could improve them though:

How about building a little rig to hold the Zero and camera together so the screen is completely stationary, rather than constantly moving due to you pressing the controls, and also zoomed in a bit more so the screen takes up the entire frame?  In the absence of HDMI out, this would give the best possible representation of the gameplay.
I cannot do that because of my tourettes. If I have it on a stationary platform I twitch and it falls over. It doesn't move because of me moving the controls it moves because I have ticks. I'm sorry but there is nothing I can do about it. You'd be surprised at how hard it is for me to keep the verbal ticks out of the videos. I am doing the best I can and until there is tv out that is the best I can do. Sorry. 
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Agrajag on December 12, 2012, 09:34:49 pm
OK, sorry I brought it up.  Keep doing what you do!
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Rosenkranz on December 12, 2012, 09:58:51 pm
@qbertaddict - Thanks for all the great videos!  I just had a thought about how you could improve them though:

How about building a little rig to hold the Zero and camera together so the screen is completely stationary, rather than constantly moving due to you pressing the controls, and also zoomed in a bit more so the screen takes up the entire frame?  In the absence of HDMI out, this would give the best possible representation of the gameplay.
I cannot do that because of my tourettes. If I have it on a stationary platform I twitch and it falls over. It doesn't move because of me moving the controls it moves because I have ticks. I'm sorry but there is nothing I can do about it. You'd be surprised at how hard it is for me to keep the verbal ticks out of the videos. I am doing the best I can and until there is tv out that is the best I can do. Sorry.

Just wanted to say that I never noticed any shaking from your videos and never thought of them to be unwatchable in any way... And I watch them for a looong time. That means that you are doing a great job, qubert :)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Pardue on December 25, 2012, 06:29:47 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5FzEd860t8
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: NoeL on December 25, 2012, 08:19:33 am
You know how you said Androids can't do analog, what's your opinion on this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gggvz9lzLb8&feature=youtu.be

?
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: qbertaddict on December 25, 2012, 08:48:43 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5FzEd860t8
Nice review. I'm glad you let them know that the bezels are being fixed. People would have freaked out! Now start doing some gaming. You need to come and play some multiplayer quake and duke with us.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Pardue on December 25, 2012, 09:30:30 am
@ Q

Thanks Q! As I've said before, I learned that hard way that what you do isn't easy, so getting a thumbs up from you is something I'll put on my resume! Let me get through the holiday tomorrow and I'll be playing Duke and Quake with you guys!  ;D

@ NoeL

If that is in fact the Android answer to the true Analog problem then I congratulate them for cracking that nut. I'd also like to congratulate them for creating a solution that has the unwieldy finesse of a Sasquatch with a prosthetic leg!!! Look at that thing, It's hideous!!!

I watched the video and some things made me cringe right away:
- @ 1:10 he has trouble centering the nub overlay and never gets it right
- @ 2:53 he has trouble getting Mario to run in a straight line (probably because the nub overlay was not centered)
- @ 3:05 he has a noticeable lag in his control inputs and what you see on the screen

I stand by my statements in the video "quality means a lot to me and I'm sure there's others like me" the solution in that video is the complete opposite of quality. I'd never buy a car if the dealer told me "this is a great car, the suspension and steering is spot-on! It competes with the best... er... so long as you realign the steering wheel each time before you drive, if you don't get it just right, the handling turns to crap, you veer off the road and die. But cha see, that's the beauty of it, it takes skill, it's a real driver's car!"
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: NoeL on December 26, 2012, 12:28:34 am
Still, they're managing to read analog input on an Android device, which I didn't think was even possible before seeing that. What he's done here isn't the most elegant solution, but it's a start and definitely answers the question of whether or not these devices have analog controls. I'm not interested in Androids after the disappointment of my Yinlips, but for others this may be a big selling point.

Anyway, wrong forum for this XD
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Pardue on December 26, 2012, 04:36:46 am
I always trust this as my best source of information: http://dingoo-scene.blogspot.com/2012/06/working-analog-stick-in-chinese-android.html#comment-form

I'm impressed and intrigued with how they were able to pull off what they have so far, even though it's not anything I'd ever want. From the article I linked to, I was always under the impression that the problem was twofold: 1) the emulators don't support true analog and 2) the current android firmware doesn't support it. So both would have to change before a solution could be found. I thought the boot-up in that video looked suspicious, maybe he's operating outside of the Android system sort of like the Xperia Play's analog controls?

Oh well, as you stated, wrong thread for this discussion.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: dorino on December 26, 2012, 04:58:49 am
Thanks for the video, Pardue.

What exactly is the issue with the shoulder buttons? In your video, I couldn't tell.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Pardue on December 26, 2012, 05:35:46 am
Exactly, it is hard to tell and it ends up not being an issue in the end.

So it's just a cosmetic issue. The button is crooked, it angles towards the face a little bit. I think Articus said he had this same issue and took out the button, then shaved down the plastic (but don't quote me on that, I might not have that right).

The button doesn't feel crooked or different from the right shoulder button, and I actually didn't notice it immediately. The hardware test proves that the functionality isn't affected, it works perfectly and doesn't stick.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: dorino on December 26, 2012, 06:37:09 am
it'd be interesting to know if that's a universal issue - regardless of how minor it is - or simply an uncommon problem.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: MightyJAK on December 28, 2012, 03:34:09 pm
In his most recent video, Gamester81 announces his next 5 console reviews will all be handhelds. Could the GCW Zero be one of them?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVz_L7zg-mQ
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: qbertaddict on December 28, 2012, 06:20:59 pm
In his most recent video, Gamester81 announces his next 5 console reviews will all be handhelds. Could the GCW Zero be one of them?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVz_L7zg-mQ
No he isn't. He is a snob. He lives less than 50 miles away from me and has been nothing but a jerk to me any time I have tried to talk to him. Which is weird since he is friends with one of my best friends and fellow youtuber from NYC. I tried to talk to him about the a320 and dingoonity at CGE a long time ago when it first came out. He refused to speak about it because it did emulation. I offered to give a demonstration he said no. He said the only system he would use that did emulation was the pandora and it was way better than this and I would be wasting his time. BTW my friend told me he still hasn't got his PANDORA yet :) Check out the review he did of the wiz(which is a system that does emulation mind you!). He did not even touch on emulation or anything other than what came with the system. He also does not like to be told that some of his information in his videos is incorrect. Try to correct him you will see. I think he will probably do a review of the neogeo x. You guys that subscribe to him or watch his videos should say check out the zero one of the testers lives less than 50 miles from you and the device is independent and better and so and so on. Tell him that there are videos on my youtube page and that I can demo it for him if he does not treat me like he has in the past. That way I can show the device to him and then the review he could give would be accurate. If he trashes it fine at least it will have been demoed correctly. 
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: BAFelton on December 28, 2012, 08:53:14 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfX5kU70lG8
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: qbertaddict on December 28, 2012, 09:15:12 pm
Glad it came in. Now get on irc and we'll make the thing sing. A lot of things have changed since I sent it out. We are on the freenode network #gcw just pm me

Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: jutley on December 29, 2012, 10:45:50 pm
Does anyone know what website I can track my device on I have tracking number but not sure what website.
Title: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Dexidus on December 29, 2012, 11:40:47 pm
Most likely usps I'd imagine... It's coming from the US n all.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: jutley on December 30, 2012, 12:42:22 am
I tried that but can't get any info'
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: pcercuei on December 30, 2012, 01:18:57 am
@BAFelton: Nice video! It's a prototype, right?
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Veritas on December 30, 2012, 01:24:51 am
Does anyone know what website I can track my device on I have tracking number but not sure what website.

Search for the tracking# in Google.  It should come up with the appropriate site.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: NoeL on December 30, 2012, 07:40:01 am
@BAFelton: Nice video! It's a prototype, right?
I assume so, otherwise he got screwed out of a bezel! XD
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: BAFelton on December 30, 2012, 09:09:42 am
@BAFelton: Nice video! It's a prototype, right?

Yep, Qbert's one  ;D
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: PureWicked.AU on December 30, 2012, 10:05:46 pm
I noticed the wooden Pandora box and silver/charcoal/gunmetal Pandora, I am trying to work out what to do with my Pandora order, still waiting for the original order, have the one I paid extra for, which I play on a bit, if I ordered from Evil Dragon I'd probably have my original order by now but I ordered from Craig's store wondering whether to upgrade original order to 1gz, through Evil Dragon, and send in the one I have to him to exchange for another 1gz, unit, it feels a bit like I'd be throwing good money after bad, paying twice as much for the privilege of "Pandora ownership" and hefty shipping charges from Australia to Germany and back again on the one I already have... dilemma
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: cruelcynic on December 31, 2012, 03:55:18 am
Wish I could figure out a good setting to take a great screen shot.

I have never played Chrono Trigger. Thought it was time to fix that.
(http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/6148/chrono001.jpg)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Zoel on December 31, 2012, 07:12:53 am
Now Imagine if Card Wars Saga is ever finished, and if Mugen was properly ported to GCW

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rnBRTEEfBw

You will get to see Crono in his all Badassery!
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: ruffnutts on December 31, 2012, 09:58:56 am
Game looks well cool want lol
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: BAFelton on December 31, 2012, 12:04:55 pm
I noticed the wooden Pandora box and silver/charcoal/gunmetal Pandora, I am trying to work out what to do with my Pandora order, still waiting for the original order, have the one I paid extra for, which I play on a bit, if I ordered from Evil Dragon I'd probably have my original order by now but I ordered from Craig's store wondering whether to upgrade original order to 1gz, through Evil Dragon, and send in the one I have to him to exchange for another 1gz, unit, it feels a bit like I'd be throwing good money after bad, paying twice as much for the privilege of "Pandora ownership" and hefty shipping charges from Australia to Germany and back again on the one I already have... dilemma

If i were you, i wouldn't order from craig : http://boards.openpandora.org/index.php/topic/11183-what-is-up-between-ed-and-craig/
Title: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Dexidus on December 31, 2012, 01:55:43 pm
Awful lot of pandora talk for a gcwzero video and review thread...
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: BAFelton on December 31, 2012, 03:45:46 pm
Back to the Zer0 :D All are non-official releases for the zer0.

DCastaway runs quite well :

(http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/849296IMG11871.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=849296IMG11871.jpg)

Descent 1 runs great :

(http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/271625IMG11831.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=271625IMG11831.jpg)

OpenBor (this version lacks sound) :

(http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/596912IMG11851.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=596912IMG11851.jpg)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: dewc on January 01, 2013, 03:30:26 am
I noticed the wooden Pandora box and silver/charcoal/gunmetal Pandora, I am trying to work out what to do with my Pandora order, still waiting for the original order, have the one I paid extra for, which I play on a bit, if I ordered from Evil Dragon I'd probably have my original order by now but I ordered from Craig's store wondering whether to upgrade original order to 1gz, through Evil Dragon, and send in the one I have to him to exchange for another 1gz, unit, it feels a bit like I'd be throwing good money after bad, paying twice as much for the privilege of "Pandora ownership" and hefty shipping charges from Australia to Germany and back again on the one I already have... dilemma

If i were you, i wouldn't order from craig : http://boards.openpandora.org/index.php/topic/11183-what-is-up-between-ed-and-craig/

Wow, I had no idea it has become so messy. I received my OP unit and moved on. I wanted the 1Ghz version, but it was just too pricey. Then along came this exciting project full of potential.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Zoel on January 01, 2013, 07:20:50 am
To anyone that has a GCW, how would you say it compares to the Caanoo? Originally I was going to get one of those, until I heard of the GCW Zero.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: qbertaddict on January 01, 2013, 08:39:18 am
To anyone that has a GCW, how would you say it compares to the Caanoo? Originally I was going to get one of those, until I heard of the GCW Zero.
I love it and prefer it to my cannoo

Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Pardue on January 01, 2013, 09:00:32 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wu0Azzhu0yI
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: zear on January 01, 2013, 10:57:21 am
To clarify some false info in this video:
1) The prototypes are 256M units, there were never 128M units, as we don't even have support for 128M in our bootloader
2) Applications that run well with 256M of ram might still benefit from extra memory of the 512M units. There are no artificial limits to the amount of ram an app can use. But it's true there probably won't be many 412M unit exclusive titles.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: qbertaddict on January 01, 2013, 11:05:55 am
Yeah it seems that you have been getting some crazy information. Please PM who you got it from if you don't mind. Don't worry I won't go on a witch hunt. I will just let them know their information is incorrect.  Hell some of the incorrect info may have come from me since some of the information changed as we dug deeper into the prototypes. We discovered a lot of things that we were wrong about as we learned more about the inner works of the system.
Title: Re: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: pcercuei on January 01, 2013, 01:44:47 pm
2) Applications that run well with 256M of ram might still benefit from extra memory of the 512M units. There are no artificial limits to the amount of ram an app can use.
Except for high-end PC games, all the apps use only the RAM they need and no more. An app that runs fine with 256MB does because it needs less than 256MB; and it won't use more if there's more RAM available. So basically what you're saying is wrong.
On the other hand, the OS will use the extra RAM to cache the most used files of the SD card so that they load faster. But that's the only thing that would affect the execution of an app.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Pardue on January 01, 2013, 03:34:12 pm
Whoops, sorry, I don't know where I got the 128mb info. Maybe my meds after this cold are messing with my head. I was completely wrong, I'm taking down the original video and editing that part out, then reposting. Sorry about the wrong info. Only about 50 people had watched that as opposed to over 1,000 for my first video, so hopefully no damage done.

As for the 512mb units being a placebo for now, I stand by my statements. I did say that "I might be proven wrong, so just add this to the rumor mill." And hell, I welcome someone to prove me wrong and make my 512mb unit extra special!

Edit: Whew! Damage control is now complete. The video is now reposted (and links corrected) without that part. The description states that there has been a redaction. I'm glad I didn't have to go to work today or that could have spread a lot more misinformation. There's no way to know who those 50 viewers were but in addition to Zear there were two comments from cruelcynic and someone from the Netherlands (not sure if it's a dingoonity member or not) but for both I have reached out to them telling them that I was wrong and the video has been reposted.




I just saw your new video Q! I like your style!
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: jutley on January 01, 2013, 11:44:57 pm
I was one of the viewers but I knew there was never a 128mb version only 256.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: qbertaddict on January 02, 2013, 02:42:16 am
Here is another video kind of a FU to the NEOGEO X  ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYo0ygKUKTY

Please give the thumbs up on the videos if you like them. I get like a penny every time someone clicks gives me one :)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: theonyxphoenix on January 02, 2013, 06:50:07 pm
Now Imagine if Card Wars Saga is ever finished, and if Mugen was properly ported to GCW

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rnBRTEEfBw

You will get to see Crono in his all Badassery!

Checked that out here:

http://www.screwattack.com/news/card-saga-wars-ultimate-mash-fighter

and it looks freaking amazing.

Wish 1: This gets finished
Wish 2: It gets ported to GCW
Wish 3: uh..three more wishes?
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: BAFelton on January 02, 2013, 07:46:16 pm
Yes we can :D

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/273461IMG11911.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=273461IMG11911.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/530987IMG11931.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=530987IMG11931.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/877345IMG11951.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=877345IMG11951.jpg)

Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: MightyJAK on January 03, 2013, 04:34:33 pm
Please give the thumbs up on the videos if you like them. I get like a penny every time someone clicks gives me one :)
I signed in with my alt just to give your videos more likes, hope you appreciate it  ;)

Does the GCW port of FBA have netplay? I'd like to play some Metal Slug with you  8)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: cutterjohn on January 03, 2013, 11:03:16 pm
To clarify some false info in this video:
1) The prototypes are 256M units, there were never 128M units, as we don't even have support for 128M in our bootloader
2) Applications that run well with 256M of ram might still benefit from extra memory of the 512M units. There are no artificial limits to the amount of ram an app can use. But it's true there probably won't be many 412M unit exclusive titles.
Two words: swap file
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: pcercuei on January 03, 2013, 11:45:15 pm
To bog down the system and kill your microSD card, that's what you need to do. Something like zRAM is much more appropriate. But do we really need it?
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: cutterjohn on January 07, 2013, 04:22:15 pm
To bog down the system and kill your microSD card, that's what you need to do. Something like zRAM is much more appropriate. But do we really need it?
hasn't killed my rpi's uSD yet... nor does it bog it down.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Prophet on January 07, 2013, 07:25:55 pm
Wrong thread... snip
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Pardue on January 08, 2013, 08:02:46 pm
Three part Zero vs. Xbox review:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSq6i6Q9-qc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJUKIWi2-wI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meTF82vlFxw

Enjoy!
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: BAFelton on January 08, 2013, 10:14:06 pm
My turn ;)

Pics and comments here : http://www.open-consoles-news.com/2013/01/gcw-zer0-le-test.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5NKID6Xpl0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t0aR4W3KRQ
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: ace9094 on January 08, 2013, 10:54:43 pm
Three part Zero vs. Xbox review:
Enjoy!

LOVE IT..... xbox is my fav console of all time (for modding anyway)  Great vids thanks for uploading them ;)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Pardue on January 09, 2013, 01:26:24 am
Thank you guys for your encouragement and support! I strive to give the best performance possible to those who watch my videos so your words really show me that I've accomplished that. I posted the videos during my lunch break and just got off work now so I and haven't checked youtube. But as of last night, my first two GCW videos (not the vs. Xbox ones) posted a few weeks back had a combined total of around 2,000 views and not a single down vote!

Your encouragement and support has been so overwhelming that I've decided to take the plunge and start my own web series. It will not be GCW themed but it will be gaming related. It'll have reviews and focus on one broad segment of the market that I think would be really fun to take a look at. I need to work out technicalities and maybe experiment with new shooting styles (I'm very new to all of this). I'm also going to give all of my subscribers (all 14 of them last I checked! lol) a sneak preview. But don't expect anything for another month or so.



Lastly, I wanted to give you guys a neat little factoid about my video: While I was collecting footage, I noticed I could spell things out by using the first letter in the title of each game that was shown. I decided to rearrange the order of the games so that "GCW0GEEK" was spelled out with the last eight games. I then planned to hold a contest where the first person to find that would get a prize. The idea was scrapped for two reasons: 1) I didn't like how the result would mix the order of the games with different systems; and 2) I lost my "C" because I planned to demonstrate Crystalis, but when I was trying to get footage, neither the GCW nor Xbox had much trouble emulating the NES or Gameboy Color versions, so that game was replaced with Simpsons Tree House of Horror. You can still see part of this plan in the finished product. The last five games spell "0GEEK"
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Pardue on January 12, 2013, 06:54:06 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKIz3wlbqCU
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: quartercast on January 13, 2013, 12:18:59 am
Nice one, I like your videos Pardue :)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: neilgeox on January 13, 2013, 10:16:05 am
Great video Pardue. Been waiting to see how Pilotwings runs for a while. Looks pretty flawless. On your next Snes vid could you maybe show Stunt race FX and Jikkyou oshaberi Parodius? The latter is a little obscure I know, but the Dingoo couldn't run it. I think it had the SA-1 chip to help with the audio and some polygon scaling.
Title: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: quartercast on January 13, 2013, 10:17:58 am
Stunt Race FX runs 1-5 fps
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: qbertaddict on January 13, 2013, 12:30:11 pm
Jikkyou oshaberi Parodius runs great on snes9x4d. Forget about stunt racer running at all

Edit:Jikkyou oshaberi Parodius runs OK with frameskip on SNES9X4D just tried it again. Don't even try on pocketsnes
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Frank_fjs on January 13, 2013, 12:41:55 pm
Is there a concise list of emulators that are currently running on the GCW?
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: jutley on January 13, 2013, 02:43:16 pm
Just a few shots of my precious with modified wallpaper.

(http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k558/jutleys/20130113_153613_zps96271456.jpg)

(http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k558/jutleys/20130113_153604_zps870004ad.jpg)

(http://i1115.photobucket.com/albums/k558/jutleys/20130113_153622_zps3acbebcc.jpg)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: BAFelton on January 13, 2013, 08:37:40 pm
Great ! Where do you put the wallpaper files ?
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Prophet on January 14, 2013, 12:41:02 am
Can someone post a video of some or all of the following systems/games please?

Atari 800 (has this been ported yet to Zero?): MULE, Archon, Karateka
Atari Lynx: Slime World, Gates of Zendocon, Chip's Challenge
NeoGeo: Garou, Pulstar and Last Blade 2
NeoGeo Pocket Color: Match of the Millenium, Metal Slug (either 1 or 2, or both!)
TurboGrafx16/PCE: Blazing Lazers (AKA Gunhed), Bonk's Adventure (1, 2 or 3), Ninja Spirit
MAME/Arcade: Bombjack, Mr. Do!, Megazone

Thanks! =)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: qbertaddict on January 14, 2013, 03:26:32 am
Can someone post a video of some or all of the following systems/games please?

Atari 800 (has this been ported yet to Zero?): MULE, Archon, Karateka
Atari Lynx: Slime World, Gates of Zendocon, Chip's Challenge
NeoGeo: Garou, Pulstar and Last Blade 2
NeoGeo Pocket Color: Match of the Millenium, Metal Slug (either 1 or 2, or both!)
TurboGrafx16/PCE: Blazing Lazers (AKA Gunhed), Bonk's Adventure (1, 2 or 3), Ninja Spirit
MAME/Arcade: Bombjack, Mr. Do!, Megazone

Thanks! =)
All those run great most will be covered in a video I am doing in the next few days. Mame, Atari 800, and 7800 can be done tomorrow. I already did star soldier so no need for blazing lazers.  I already did a video of ninja spirit and bonk. I already did a neogeo pocket with metal slug. I already did a video of lynx everything runs pretty much pefrect but I will see if I can test those specific games for you
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Prophet on January 14, 2013, 04:01:14 am
Can someone post a video of some or all of the following systems/games please?

Atari 800 (has this been ported yet to Zero?): MULE, Archon, Karateka
Atari Lynx: Slime World, Gates of Zendocon, Chip's Challenge
NeoGeo: Garou, Pulstar and Last Blade 2
NeoGeo Pocket Color: Match of the Millenium, Metal Slug (either 1 or 2, or both!)
TurboGrafx16/PCE: Blazing Lazers (AKA Gunhed), Bonk's Adventure (1, 2 or 3), Ninja Spirit
MAME/Arcade: Bombjack, Mr. Do!, Megazone

Thanks! =)
All those run great most will be covered in a video I am doing in the next few days. Mame, Atari 800, and 7800 can be done tomorrow. I already did star soldier so no need for blazing lazers.  I already did a video of ninja spirit and bonk. I already did a neogeo pocket with metal slug. I already did a video of lynx everything runs pretty much pefrect but I will see if I can test those specific games for you

Thanks. Much appreciated. I must've somehow missed a few of your vids, I guess. Will look again.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Pardue on January 14, 2013, 08:35:11 am
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=pw0r_op-DNo
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: BAFelton on January 14, 2013, 10:28:37 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxzkAz2Cc08


-Xenon 2 : Atari ST
- Sunset Riders : FBA
- Super Street Fighter II Turbo : FBA
- KOF 98 : FBA
- Garou : FBA
- Metroid Fusion : GBA
- Rayman : GBA
- Wario 4 : GBA
- Crapyard Dog : Lynx
- Coryoon Dragon : PCEngine
- Final Match Tennis : PCEngine
- SuperMonacoGP : SMS
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: skelton on January 14, 2013, 10:31:58 am
BAFelton, FBA is running with FrameSkip, right? Because it doesn't seem 100% smooth, and a bit of sound stuttering.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: qbertaddict on January 14, 2013, 11:21:23 am
BAFelton, FBA is running with FrameSkip, right? Because it doesn't seem 100% smooth, and a bit of sound stuttering.
He needs to edit his cf files. SF and sunset riders run with frameskip 0 and no issues. Also fba is in beta so if sound starts to stutter you just exit out of the emu and go back in. I clears everything up. One of my videos shows fba and frameskip 0
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: skelton on January 14, 2013, 11:24:50 am
BAFelton, FBA is running with FrameSkip, right? Because it doesn't seem 100% smooth, and a bit of sound stuttering.
He needs to edit his cf files. SF and sunset riders run with frameskip 0 and no issues. Also fba is in beta so if sound starts to stutter you just exit out of the emu and go back in. I clears everything up. One of my videos shows fba and frameskip 0

Cool, thanks.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: jutley on January 14, 2013, 05:55:30 pm
Where are all the newer emulators coming from px engine. Atari lynx fba I cant find them anywhere on google docs page I thought gpe files dont work?
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Articus on January 15, 2013, 02:56:46 am
Hey guys, I know I havent been making many videos lately, but this is due to me lending my prototype to my nephew.  You see, he just finished his first semester in college and has been on winter break.  I, on the hand, have been very busy at work. So, I figured, it would be great for him to experience the GCW0 first hand, since I will be gifting him one anyway!  I saw this as a great opportunity to have a younger point of view on this console. I asked him to write up a small review of the unit after he had used it a bit. 

Just a little background on my nephew.  Hes a 17-18 year old young man, who like most of us, has been gaming since very young.  His gaming experience has come through my previous systems, NES, SNES, N64, and I think he also had my original Gameboy.  He later got himself a Gameboy Advance and a Nintendo DS (he refuses to upgrade his DS because he has the one that can also accept GBA cartriges).  Also, I forgot to mention, that I soft-modded his original Xbox and it provided his first experience with emulators.  I knew he would enjoy the GCW0. 

This is his first review, and he knows nothing of linux, OD, or Gmenu2x, so please keep that in mind.  I kind of expected a short comparison to consoles/handhelds he already knows, but unfortunately this was not the case.  Well, heres what he wrote about it:

"The load times are quite short and will not cause frustration. The zero is also very light, and easy to
move, as it is small enough to fit into most pockets, yet the screen is large enough to enjoy and is easy
on the eyes. It is about the size of the bottom half of a Nintendo DS and the buttons are also similar. The
start time does take a small while though, but it is manageable. Overall, it’s a great device that is very
much fun, and there is a plethora of games available with the emulators."

He kept it short, and to the point! :)  Maybe after this one, I might talk him into a more detailed, elaborate review!  lol
Good job, nephew . . .  I want my GCW0 back!!  :)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Pardue on January 16, 2013, 04:46:18 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CY_DFEJ6abA

... and another for tonight! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HYH8OKg3W4
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: gamefreak_joey on January 16, 2013, 08:42:37 am
Hey, Pardue The Conqueror! (trumpets sound) If I may be so bold as to request a few games be challenged!
You'll have to forgive that the majority are DBZ games, but in my experience, I've seen many emulators glitch and chug while playing these. Especially during battle sequences where the fighters separate large distances and the screen splits.

Super Famicom
1.  YU YU Hakusho Tokubehuten (You'll have to read up on the controls for this one because it's complicated and there's only Kanji characters telling you what is what. Articus can attest to that ;)  )
2. Dragon Ball Z: Hyper Dimension
3. Dragon Ball Z: Super Butouden 3
4. Gundam Wing: Endless Duel

Is there an emu for Sega System 32 for the Zero?
If so, I'm interested to see another DBZ game thrown at the Zero called Dragon Ball Z: V.R.V.S.

I also remember someone posting about another game on the 32 called  Golden Axe: The Revenge of Death Adder that is difficult to emulate.

I know since its a lot of games i'm throwing out, you might be...chicken, McFly!
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Articus on January 16, 2013, 08:55:41 am
Joey,

I too requested your 1 and 2 games to be covered by Pardue.  I would do it myself but my proto is currently in the hands of another {cue to latin soap opera suspenseful music} . . .  :)

ps I made you a video a while back but I never got around to showing it,  I might still have it! 
I can assure you they run fine!  Also Ive played Gundam Wing, runs well!  I just need to learn how to play them  :-[

edit: it might be best to request that Pardue make a video after all, as the one I have is not very good.  ;)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Inertia on January 16, 2013, 06:20:09 pm
Here's my article on emufrance, one of the best and well known french website about emulators.

http://www.emu-france.com/?page=commentaires&rub=news&id=22441
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Prophet on January 16, 2013, 08:55:19 pm
Here's my article on emufrance, one of the best and well known french website about emulators.

http://www.emu-france.com/?page=commentaires&rub=news&id=22441

Emufrance, excellent site.

I would post a news story on Retrogames.com if (a) I remembered my login info (LOL, it's been over 10 years I think) and (b) it was still popular (is it?!).
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Pardue on January 17, 2013, 10:02:07 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGHlt1gR02U
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: gundalf on January 18, 2013, 12:23:22 pm
Could you please try Umihara Kawase (SNES)?
This game features some rope physics and even the original Wii SNES Emulator has some performance problems with it.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: BAFelton on January 19, 2013, 05:19:27 pm
(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/210191P1010442.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=210191P1010442.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/684881P1010443.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=684881P1010443.jpg)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Pardue on January 21, 2013, 12:41:01 am
New video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3GJKDj85b0

Edit: ANOTHER video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdhrsTUm53k

And yet another: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_3qBoNDQZQ
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Barya on January 24, 2013, 09:13:17 am
It would be great to see some games in action:
PS1: Spyro, Tekken.
DOS: shamus, moonbugs, defender of the crown - by the way, how emulator handles the keyboard if it's necessary?
Atari: Boulder dash, monty.
ZX Spectrum: booty, Batty.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: gronik on January 24, 2013, 12:29:45 pm
It would be great to see some games in action:
PS1: Spyro, Tekken.
DOS: shamus, moonbugs, defender of the crown - by the way, how emulator handles the keyboard if it's necessary?
Atari: Boulder dash, monty.
ZX Spectrum: booty, Batty.

That would be fantastic to see! +1 on this completely.
Especially on the Tekken side of things; but with sound? That would be insane!

I doubt that we will see PS1 emulation being showed off until everything's been polished enough though;
Which could be some time after mass release =/.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Prophet on January 25, 2013, 12:26:31 am
It would be great to see some games in action:
PS1: Spyro, Tekken.
DOS: shamus, moonbugs, defender of the crown - by the way, how emulator handles the keyboard if it's necessary?
Atari: Boulder dash, monty.
ZX Spectrum: booty, Batty.

That would be fantastic to see! +1 on this completely.
Especially on the Tekken side of things; but with sound? That would be insane!

I doubt that we will see PS1 emulation being showed off until everything's been polished enough though;
Which could be some time after mass release =/.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cN2wZM28Gw#t=502s
 :)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: zear on January 25, 2013, 10:37:01 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cN2wZM28Gw#t=502s
That's an emulator the chinese gave us long time ago.
1) It violates GPL
2) We don't have the sources to it
3) It won't work with OpenDingux

So no, that's not an accurate depiction of how PSX runs on GCW Zero.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: BAFelton on January 25, 2013, 07:55:57 pm
Just because I loooove this game ^^

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IJnEiUrGd8
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: BAFelton on January 26, 2013, 06:40:48 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNHNsIl6L50
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: BAFelton on January 26, 2013, 11:47:58 am
(http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/408293P1010445.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=408293P1010445.jpg)

(http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/308875P1010447.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=308875P1010447.jpg)

(http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/670648P1010448.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=670648P1010448.jpg)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: gronik on January 26, 2013, 04:39:12 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cN2wZM28Gw#t=502s
That's an emulator the chinese gave us long time ago.
1) It violates GPL
2) We don't have the sources to it
3) It won't work with OpenDingux

So no, that's not an accurate depiction of how PSX runs on GCW Zero.

Certainly not accurate, but it does show a decent level of potential.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: BAFelton on January 26, 2013, 07:09:48 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV1LtMips0c
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: BAFelton on January 27, 2013, 09:11:57 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nWocc_AnRs
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: TheThinker on January 29, 2013, 10:07:00 am
Hi Justin, I wrote to your email address to ask you if there is news about the shipping/delivery of my
Black GCW Zero SE and White GCW Zero SE but you didn't reply atm. As you know I live in London and I can't wait to get these consoles ;)

Please keep me posted, so I know how long does it take!

Thank you

Fabio Moro
Title: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: quartercast on January 29, 2013, 08:30:21 pm
Wrong thread, Fabio.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: doglush on January 31, 2013, 10:17:05 am
I see many video, and all looks great...
Why all these emulators have different menu/presentation/interface ?
Why not using a standardized one (with the best of each)?
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: gundalf on January 31, 2013, 11:44:01 am
I see many video, and all looks great...
Why all these emulators have different menu/presentation/interface ?
Why not using a standardized one (with the best of each)?

As far i understand they will be working on it.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: DiegoSLTS on January 31, 2013, 01:02:14 pm
I see many video, and all looks great...
Why all these emulators have different menu/presentation/interface ?
Why not using a standardized one (with the best of each)?
They are all different existent emulators for Windows or Linux, made for different people in differente years. Those emulators generally use some window system (like Windows native or GTK on Linux), but they have been ported to different systems (befor Dingux) that doesn't support windows, so a new GUI has to be made to make them more user-friendly.

There are no standards for making a GUI and all of us have to do it using the SDL, so anyone does what's easier for him/she to do. Sometimes the GUI of an emulator is too connected (in the code) to it and reusing it in another is not trivial. I once tried to use PocketSNES's GUI for NesterOD, but the structure of the code is too different, it was easier for me to do a simple new one instead.

Finally, if an emulator already has a GUI that can be used in OpenDingux, it's a lot easier to just use it instead of replacing it with another or making a new one.

I think that different GUI's are OK, that's the result of an open source community with different developers working for it.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Prophet on January 31, 2013, 09:04:40 pm
I see many video, and all looks great...
Why all these emulators have different menu/presentation/interface ?
Why not using a standardized one (with the best of each)?

That would be so painfully boring.

I don't understand why so many people seem to want all apps to have the same vanilla interface. Maybe it's because I'm from the olden days of emulation, when part of the fun was seeing the odd touches coders would put into the UI (i.e. Sardu's bloody hand pointers), but I actually enjoy seeing a variety of interfaces and designs. The vast majority work just fine; it's not like they're difficult to use.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: qbertaddict on February 01, 2013, 06:45:20 am
SCUMMVM with analog

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGG6QLGNtko
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: switcher on February 01, 2013, 07:45:17 am
SCUMMVM with analog

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGG6QLGNtko

amazing qbertaddict, super awesome.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Prophet on February 01, 2013, 03:48:53 pm
SCUMMVM... that means Full Throttle and The Dig on the Zero, right? Some of my favorite games of all time. I bought a big old Lucas Arts Collection box years ago; not sure I still have it... I sold and threw away so much good stuff due to moving. :-/
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: ithic.com on February 03, 2013, 09:19:59 pm
Hey folks,

Just wanted to drop in and say hi post FOSDEM.  Yesterday I got to have a few minutes with a prototype GCW-Zero that Justin sent to EvilDragon.  For what little was on there to play, I enjoyed using the device.  I really like the size of the screen for retro games of that era.  The overall feel is solid.  I liked the D-Pad/button response.  I didn't play anything involving the shoulders, but they are right there, and feel good.  I tried to get them to miss a press, but mechanically they don't miss from my minute of L/R pressing. 

As a Pandora owner, I really don't carry it with me all that much.  I game with it at home, on planes, and the occasional car ride or subway ride.  I've repaired dozens of Pandora.  To me the old casing cracks over time, and the LCD cables give up at random.  The new LCD cables are supposed to solve this, but I'm sure I can give better feedback on them in 6 months as they are basically being field tested since November.  I'm rambling.

What I'm saying is that for the games I want to play on the go, the GCW-Zero is going to be in my pocket a lot more than my Open Pandora.  It's smaller, battery life should be similar, and should the elements catch up with me, or I find myself on the bad side of a mugging, then a $140 device compared to a $500-600 is a marginal loss. 

Touchscreen's I could care less about.    Being able to put a 64GB SDXC micro card externally into these things, or even slapping one in the guts is going be interesting.  I'm super curious to see what the audio output is like for earbuds. 

I'm really looking forward to what is in the works with everyone working to put this in motion.  Part of me wonders what the reception at FOSDEM would have been for this device if they were in boxes and ready to hand across the table in exchange for some colourful €. 

Godspeed GCW-Zero!
Title: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: quartercast on February 03, 2013, 09:41:53 pm
Great post Link. I like how you are able to be objective about both the GCW Zero and the Pandora, even though you're an official Pandora distributor and investor :)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: dewc on February 03, 2013, 11:25:48 pm
Thanks for your post ithic. Quite informative. :)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: ace9094 on February 04, 2013, 07:17:12 pm
Monkey Island here i come :)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: qbertaddict on February 08, 2013, 05:53:56 am
Hey folks,

Just wanted to drop in and say hi post FOSDEM.  Yesterday I got to have a few minutes with a prototype GCW-Zero that Justin sent to EvilDragon.  For what little was on there to play, I enjoyed using the device.  I really like the size of the screen for retro games of that era.  The overall feel is solid.  I liked the D-Pad/button response.  I didn't play anything involving the shoulders, but they are right there, and feel good.  I tried to get them to miss a press, but mechanically they don't miss from my minute of L/R pressing. 

As a Pandora owner, I really don't carry it with me all that much.  I game with it at home, on planes, and the occasional car ride or subway ride.  I've repaired dozens of Pandora.  To me the old casing cracks over time, and the LCD cables give up at random.  The new LCD cables are supposed to solve this, but I'm sure I can give better feedback on them in 6 months as they are basically being field tested since November.  I'm rambling.

What I'm saying is that for the games I want to play on the go, the GCW-Zero is going to be in my pocket a lot more than my Open Pandora.  It's smaller, battery life should be similar, and should the elements catch up with me, or I find myself on the bad side of a mugging, then a $140 device compared to a $500-600 is a marginal loss. 

Touchscreen's I could care less about.    Being able to put a 64GB SDXC micro card externally into these things, or even slapping one in the guts is going be interesting.  I'm super curious to see what the audio output is like for earbuds. 

I'm really looking forward to what is in the works with everyone working to put this in motion.  Part of me wonders what the reception at FOSDEM would have been for this device if they were in boxes and ready to hand across the table in exchange for some colourful €. 

Godspeed GCW-Zero!
I sent it to EvilDragon.  ;D
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: ithic.com on February 08, 2013, 08:19:24 am
^
My mistake.  Maybe I will get to try it again before I return to the US. 
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: qbertaddict on February 08, 2013, 02:14:28 pm
^
My mistake.  Maybe I will get to try it again before I return to the US.
Its all good I was just playing around. It doesn't matter who sent it as long as it got there. I didn't put anything on it because I was told that evildragon did not want anything to do with emulation on there. So I just sent some of the ports we had.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: qbertaddict on February 10, 2013, 02:56:05 am
New video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-L9Dmbk1auU
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: qbertaddict on February 12, 2013, 07:25:38 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8frrCNYKsE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTJWZ8SZzqU
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Prophet on February 13, 2013, 03:58:45 pm
Thanks Qbertaddict. FBA is looking good. Especially impressed by the PGM hardware emulation.

Any progress on CPS3 speed in the latest build?
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: ruffnutts on February 13, 2013, 04:14:54 pm
Here is my First GCW Zero Video enjoy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Um4Sjxrw__4

ruffnutts 8)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: skelton on February 13, 2013, 04:19:25 pm

Thanks ruffnutts.

@qbert,
The sound stuttering in FBA is because of video or just because of the emu?
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: ruffnutts on February 13, 2013, 06:37:47 pm
There is enemy's in the game I never looked hard enough pmsl
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: k0en on February 13, 2013, 10:01:59 pm
NIce video Ruff !
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: ruffnutts on February 13, 2013, 10:10:15 pm
NIce video Ruff !

Thanks dude will do more :-)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: 3xcl4m4t10n on February 14, 2013, 01:42:51 am
Any progress on CPS3 speed in the latest build?

Awaiting response  :-X
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: ruffnutts on February 14, 2013, 03:47:55 pm
Another video dudes and dudettes OpenBor MKOA 8)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1qRXR8Z5mw

Made a mistake at the end see if it sticks out like a sore thumb pmsl

ruffnutts ;)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: k0en on February 14, 2013, 04:57:48 pm
Let's Rock Ruff ! Nice !
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Prophet on February 14, 2013, 05:18:02 pm
Thanks for the BOR video, ruffnuts. It seems to run perfectly and looks good on the GCW screen. Never saw that MK pack before; looks well done. I'll have to try it someday.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: ruffnutts on February 14, 2013, 05:25:44 pm
Cheers peeps yeah its an Awesome pak well worth the play... 8)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: jutley on February 14, 2013, 11:10:19 pm
Nice videos ruffs defo want that On my gcw keep the videos rolling dude.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Sensei on February 15, 2013, 02:06:19 pm
Yeah, great videos I'm loving them.

Do most open BOR files use the same screen resolution as the GCW Zero?
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: ace9094 on February 15, 2013, 03:07:03 pm
Nice Vid... I like the Streetfighter PAK ;)

Ruffz, could you make a little video covering the installation of an application or game? (from scratch)

Its one thing I would like to see, I have seen many videos covering game play, but none covering the how to actually install games,
apps and emulators.... Image it was for someone who has NEVER used a device running Opendingux  :-[

I would really appreciate it  ;)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: ruffnutts on February 15, 2013, 03:52:11 pm
I se what I can do :)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: ace9094 on February 15, 2013, 05:29:05 pm
I se what I can do :)

Thanks mate, look forward to seeing what you can come up with :)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: ruffnutts on February 15, 2013, 05:32:39 pm
Well there's a few ways I just use an SD card and dingux commander where others will use telnet or FTP,
You will kick yourself its so simple lol ;D

Must say Qbert would do such a better job but he may be busy.. anyway give me some time to find the time and I will do it
However if anyone wants to do it go head lol

nutts out  ;)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: qbertaddict on February 17, 2013, 11:17:08 am
Here is a quick tutorial

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmA48qv7OyI


MacOS users will have to use the ftp method for the external and internal sd card until the latest firmware comes out. The MacOS leaves files on the external sd card that gmenu2x does not like and cause the system to hang. This has been fixed but the firmware has not been released to everyone yet, and before all the Mac people start saying just use finder then select connect to server. That would be great but the latest version of MacOS only mounts ftp read only. A trip around the net and to the mac store to see if there was a work around returned the following. FTP is not supported use cyberduck. Cyberduck has been tested and does work as a ftp solution.

Eventually ftp should no longer be needed and everything will be installed via the app store. This is just a tutorial for people who currently have a system or one in the mail. This is why I waited so long to do a video of it. Things change daily but as more people get systems the more the current method needs a tutorial.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: 3xcl4m4t10n on February 17, 2013, 12:27:23 pm
Awaiting for it ;)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: taydor_b on February 17, 2013, 10:19:21 pm
Is there a video showing Earthbound running on the Zero?  Niko Nillo doesn't post what he is testing in his titles for his Challenge Accepted series, and I haven't seen anything by qbertaddict1 either.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Sensei on February 18, 2013, 01:31:28 am


MacOS users will have to use the ftp method for the external and internal sd card until the latest firmware comes out. The MacOS leaves files on the external sd card that gmenu2x does not like and cause the system to hang. This has been fixed but the firmware has not been released to everyone yet, and before all the Mac people start saying just use finder then select connect to server. That would be great but the latest version of MacOS only mounts ftp read only. A trip around the net and to the mac store to see if there was a work around returned the following. FTP is not supported use cyberduck. Cyberduck has been tested and does work as a ftp solution.

Eventually ftp should no longer be needed and everything will be installed via the app store. This is just a tutorial for people who currently have a system or one in the mail. This is why I waited so long to do a video of it. Things change daily but as more people get systems the more the current method needs a tutorial.

Again, sorry for asking so many stupid questions.  The App Store will be great for installing things in the future.  But I heard that emulators will not be part of that store (or is that just a nasty rumor?).  Also how will one add roms, Wads, etc.?  Will there be a tutorial for the Mac FTP option as well?

But as always, thank you for the great videos.  I am always happy when I see you have put up something new.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: qbertaddict on February 18, 2013, 02:20:31 am
You can put your roms or other emulators that are not in opk format wherever you want on the sd and internal using the same two methods. If you notice in the video I have 3 folders on my sd card. Apps, Emulators, and Games. My roms for each system are in a subfolder of the emulators directory. I just drag and dropped them over. You can do the same via ftp if you want them on the internal. As for a cyberduck tutorial I will have to install a Virtual Machine again(I do not own a mac) and do a video. That will take a while. If I get a chance I will do it.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: qbertaddict on February 18, 2013, 02:22:42 am
Is there a video showing Earthbound running on the Zero?  Niko Nillo doesn't post what he is testing in his titles for his Challenge Accepted series, and I haven't seen anything by qbertaddict1 either.
I have one showing earthbound.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: taydor_b on February 18, 2013, 05:18:16 am
Is there a video showing Earthbound running on the Zero?  Niko Nillo doesn't post what he is testing in his titles for his Challenge Accepted series, and I haven't seen anything by qbertaddict1 either.
I have one showing earthbound.

You're gonna make me search for it, aren't you?...
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: elwing on February 18, 2013, 06:05:51 am
Is there a video showing Earthbound running on the Zero?  Niko Nillo doesn't post what he is testing in his titles for his Challenge Accepted series, and I haven't seen anything by qbertaddict1 either.
I have one showing earthbound.

You're gonna make me search for it, aren't you?...

do it, it'll worth it, all his video are great...
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: ruffnutts on February 18, 2013, 04:02:01 pm
Great video Qbert :-) is there a good practice for uninstalling opk's  ect.....?

Cheers 8)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: zear on February 19, 2013, 12:41:34 am
Great video Qbert :-) is there a good practice for uninstalling opk's  ect.....?
Just remove the .opk from your card. That simple.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Sensei on February 19, 2013, 05:51:34 am
You can put your roms or other emulators that are not in opk format wherever you want on the sd and internal using the same two methods. If you notice in the video I have 3 folders on my sd card. Apps, Emulators, and Games. My roms for each system are in a subfolder of the emulators directory. I just drag and dropped them over. You can do the same via ftp if you want them on the internal. As for a cyberduck tutorial I will have to install a Virtual Machine again(I do not own a mac) and do a video. That will take a while. If I get a chance I will do it.

Thank you so much for your answers. I guess i was led to belive that i couldnt drag and drop on the mac due to the linux formatting on the card.  Glad to know that its easier than i thought.  I look forward to that video when you have time for it.  No rush.  I am really enjoying all of your videos.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: ruffnutts on February 19, 2013, 08:39:10 am
Great video Qbert :-) is there a good practice for uninstalling opk's  ect.....?
Just remove the .opk from your card. That simple.

Amazingly simple thanks ;D
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: skelton on February 19, 2013, 08:53:54 am

Thanks for the video Qbert. Very simple way to install opks. Good! :)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: ace9094 on February 25, 2013, 10:36:55 pm
Hi qbert,

Thanks for filling my request..... I really appreciate it !!!!

PS I seen you Wreck It Ralph, nice touch  ;D !
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: TeiselBonne1834 on February 25, 2013, 11:35:56 pm
I humbly request Pokemon Emerald for GBA. Gameplay (Battles,Cutscenes,etc.) Thank you to whomever accepts this request.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: qbertaddict on February 27, 2013, 02:30:57 pm
New features were added to FBA here they are.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPurroBM1gc
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: ruffnutts on February 27, 2013, 04:41:33 pm
Nice video Qbert love it

Here is PrBoom Ported by Johnnyonflame part 1 of 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dhVUTiJQEc

Here is PrBoom Part 2 Star Wars Doom 8)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asuYsVEZh84

ruffnutts ;)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: ace9094 on February 28, 2013, 11:11:49 pm
Nice work guys... thank you :)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: qbertaddict on March 05, 2013, 11:40:47 pm
Here is a nice little teaser. This is the first build so key mappings are not set yet but here it is. Sorry about the lack of editing I did this one on my phone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1FQ4M2xVI4
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: TeiselBonne1834 on March 06, 2013, 12:06:00 am
Here is a nice little teaser. This is the first build so key mappings are not set yet but here it is. Sorry about the lack of editing I did this one on my phone.

Ho ho! Quite the tease, I'd say. Godspeed to thee d_smagin!
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Prophet on March 06, 2013, 07:16:50 am
DOSbox! Nice.

Would love to see a video of some old DOS faves, i.e. Commander Keen 4, Monster Bash...
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Articus on March 06, 2013, 08:29:48 am
DOSBOX!!  Demitri just became LEGENDARY!!   8)

Great work, Team GCW!!
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: skelton on March 06, 2013, 08:51:24 am

GREAT!!! Thanks qbert for the video.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: MacDonals on March 06, 2013, 09:05:24 pm
oh. snap.  Fantasy General.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: qbertaddict on March 07, 2013, 05:53:36 pm
Another dosbox video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1o4l2EAx7Js
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: ruffnutts on March 07, 2013, 07:36:05 pm
Thanks for sharing ;)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: qbertaddict on March 09, 2013, 08:51:56 am
Another one here. This time I'm running some higher end games.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPwiYW6buTY
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: skelton on March 09, 2013, 08:58:53 am

Great video Qbert! Runs better than expected :). Good memories of Hocus Pocus, hehe.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: MightyJAK on March 23, 2013, 12:23:46 am
Someone with DOSbox on their Zero, please dig up an old version of Nesticle, Genecyst, etc., and show us some twice-removed emulation  ;D
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: ruffnutts on March 27, 2013, 07:34:02 pm
Sneak Peek Half Life on the Zero

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBMB9rcEinU

 8)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: 3xcl4m4t10n on March 28, 2013, 11:22:09 am
LOL Quake mod?

Need OMF 2097 on Dosbox video pls @[email protected]
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: qbertaddict on April 06, 2013, 09:35:02 am
Dosbox now with on screen keyboard support.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6P7I9LgYIY
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: ruffnutts on April 06, 2013, 09:53:40 am
Awesome thanks qbert.. been a while mate ;)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: k0en on April 09, 2013, 04:31:53 pm
I can see Temper on the GCW zer0.... ;D

Thanks for the video qbertaddict !
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: BAFelton on April 09, 2013, 09:16:03 pm
Just a few shots :D

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/314998P1010510.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=314998P1010510.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/722232P1010512.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=722232P1010512.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/264964P1010513.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=264964P1010513.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/465504P1010511.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=465504P1010511.jpg)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Awakened on April 09, 2013, 09:54:40 pm
(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/722232P1010512.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=722232P1010512.jpg)
Wouldn't mind seeing a video of GTA running :D
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: BAFelton on April 09, 2013, 10:27:17 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZN4Gitxwf8




(http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/894170P1010515.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=894170P1010515.jpg)

(http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/963379P1010518.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=963379P1010518.jpg)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: ruffnutts on April 09, 2013, 10:53:12 pm
Nice video and screen shots BAF...I  was playing dark forces but its not fast enough :(
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: zear on April 09, 2013, 10:55:02 pm
I should mention that GTA is SLOW AS HELL (~1-2fps). So take these screenshots with a grain of salt.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: BAFelton on April 09, 2013, 11:02:10 pm
Nice video and screen shots BAF...I  was playing dark forces but its not fast enough :(

Will have to play it on the PSX emu (when one will be there) for good results.

Fallout is too slow to be playable.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Rosenkranz on April 10, 2013, 12:38:56 am
Nice video and screen shots BAF...I  was playing dark forces but its not fast enough :(

Will have to play it on the PSX emu (when one will be there) for good results.

Fallout is too slow to be playable.

Can you try and play Crusader No Remorse or Crusader No Regret? :) Those games should be on the edge of playability.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Enclave on April 10, 2013, 05:51:51 am
Nice video and screen shots BAF...I  was playing dark forces but its not fast enough :(

Will have to play it on the PSX emu (when one will be there) for good results.

Fallout is too slow to be playable.

I'm not surprised.  It's one of the last DOS games.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Barsik on April 10, 2013, 01:49:55 pm
Just a few shots :D
(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/722232P1010512.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=722232P1010512.jpg)
I don't understand, why only that photo have normal colors on the screen?
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: BAFelton on April 10, 2013, 02:16:21 pm
One of my lights was turned off. It's just from the camera.

All games have the true colors. You can see this on some videos too.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: BAFelton on April 10, 2013, 08:21:19 pm
Heroes of Might&Magic 1 - Playable

(http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/114097P1010519.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=114097P1010519.jpg)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: BAFelton on April 10, 2013, 08:35:06 pm
Nice video and screen shots BAF...I  was playing dark forces but its not fast enough :(

Will have to play it on the PSX emu (when one will be there) for good results.

Fallout is too slow to be playable.

Can you try and play Crusader No Remorse or Crusader No Regret? :) Those games should be on the edge of playability.

Had a fatal error when I launched it and the menu was about 1fps :/
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Rosenkranz on April 10, 2013, 10:37:12 pm
Nice video and screen shots BAF...I  was playing dark forces but its not fast enough :(

Will have to play it on the PSX emu (when one will be there) for good results.

Fallout is too slow to be playable.


Can you try and play Crusader No Remorse or Crusader No Regret? :) Those games should be on the edge of playability.

Had a fatal error when I launched it and the menu was about 1fps :/

Eh :'(. <--Saaaad panda... Oh well, maybe there will be a way to start it in the future. Thanks for the try, though! :)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Enclave on April 11, 2013, 05:53:53 pm
BAFelton, do you know approx. how slow Fallout was?  As in it's FPS?

I'd like to try to get an idea of if improvements in the version of DOSbox being used could actually render it playable one day.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: zear on April 11, 2013, 06:14:22 pm
BAFelton, do you know approx. how slow Fallout was?  As in it's FPS?

I'd like to try to get an idea of if improvements in the version of DOSbox being used could actually render it playable one day.
Fallout runs in a resolution higher than 320x240, and anything running in high res will be slow, about 1-2fps on the GCW Dosbox.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Enclave on April 11, 2013, 06:18:33 pm
Indeed it does run at a higher res than that.  So unlikely to ever be playable then eh?
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: BAFelton on April 12, 2013, 01:02:49 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLvsNUAa3fo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_V93LsNAEw
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: BAFelton on April 12, 2013, 09:01:18 pm
(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/802855P1010520.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=802855P1010520.jpg)

Too laggy :/
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: zear on April 12, 2013, 10:28:00 pm
You should really focus on 2d 320x240 games. Right now you're giving an impression dosbox on GCW sucks :)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: PureWicked.AU on April 13, 2013, 06:20:25 am
BAFelton, thanks for posting this.. makes me want Dosbox badly..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nKi3WYd-k8
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: BAFelton on April 13, 2013, 06:53:35 am
Hehe this one was for U ;)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: PureWicked.AU on April 13, 2013, 07:14:04 am
oh I figured that... but I want to play it and I don't have a working dosbox... don't make me pickup my Pandora man... I'll do it :-D

stand back!!

::powers up his Pandora::

give me the dosbox or the game gets loaded on Pandora!!

I mean it :-P

don't try and stop me, I'm crazed!!

HAHAHAH!

oh I just noticed you already messaged me with it.... :-D
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: BAFelton on April 13, 2013, 05:34:15 pm
You should really focus on 2d 320x240 games. Right now you're giving an impression dosbox on GCW sucks :)

Another one for you  :P

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/257481P1010521.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=257481P1010521.jpg)

A bit too laggy. But it runs  ;D


Big games won't run well, but people want to know.

Xwing runs well but controls are not good ftm. The mouse needs to be emulated with the nub to make the game playable.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: PureWicked.AU on April 14, 2013, 01:17:54 am
looks cool, am wondering how to save mid game though? playing Moonstone thanks to you and very rusty, so not urgent, but if I get better at it again will want to save, Dragon ate me :-(
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: BAFelton on April 14, 2013, 07:33:08 am
It's old school game, there's no saves ;)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: PureWicked.AU on April 14, 2013, 10:19:40 am
yep! no complaint there, btw what version Amiga emulator did you get Moonstone to load on the Pandora? I tried Cyclone core on UAE newest version and .. no go :-D

I'm reading up on possible remakes in the works...
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: BAFelton on April 20, 2013, 06:26:18 pm
(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/177769IMG13671.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=177769IMG13671.jpg)

Phantasmagoria. Slow but playable  ;D
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Sensei on April 21, 2013, 02:00:17 am
Thanks for all the updates.  Do the Early Tex Murphy games work well on the system?  They used a strange sound system called "real sound" that went through the PC speaker.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: qbertaddict on April 21, 2013, 05:41:55 am
This is a video for people who doubt the existence of a production GCW

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjXZP1hOQBE
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: NoeL on April 21, 2013, 07:10:42 am
I'm not sure how many people doubted the production units existed, only that they were in the states.

In any case, it looks great!
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: qbertaddict on April 21, 2013, 07:37:50 am
I'm not sure how many people doubted the production units existed, only that they were in the states.

In any case, it looks great!
They are in the US. I live in Arizona
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Sensei on April 21, 2013, 08:37:41 am
I'm not sure how many people doubted the production units existed, only that they were in the states.

In any case, it looks great!
They are in the US. I live in Arizona

Yup the photos posted a few days ago proved they were in the states.  I think all the doubters already shut up about it.  Still thank you for the video, it looks like the final production units are a big improvement.  I just hope that bootloader is ready soon.  How many people are working on that?
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: NoeL on April 21, 2013, 12:42:21 pm
I'm not sure how many people doubted the production units existed, only that they were in the states.

In any case, it looks great!
They are in the US. I live in Arizona
Let me rephrase: in the states at the time Justin said they were. There's no doubt some (and little doubt all) units are in the states now and are just awaiting the bootloader fix before flashing and shipping can commence, and that excites me. :D
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Juan on April 21, 2013, 01:27:32 pm
It does look a little bit more polished. Are the speakers any better? Asking just out of curiosity, I don't think I'll be using them much anyway.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Looper on April 21, 2013, 06:26:04 pm
A lot of these dos games seem to be running slow, will Dosbox optimization and the newer 512mb GCW's improve that significantly?
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: zear on April 21, 2013, 06:43:13 pm
A lot of these dos games seem to be running slow, will Dosbox optimization and the newer 512mb GCW's improve that significantly?
No. Ram is not the issue. None of these games need more than 32M to run. These games are running slow because they're hi-end games, that use resolutions greater than 320x240.
There's TONS of classic DOS games that run fullspeed (ie. Prehistorik 2, Lotus 3, Lamborgini Challenge, Stunts, Test Drive), it's just that people in this thread decided to test the heaviest and most hardware demanding DOS games to see the limits of what GCW can do.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: dmitry_smagin on April 21, 2013, 06:43:34 pm
A lot of these dos games seem to be running slow, will Dosbox optimization and the newer 512mb GCW's improve that significantly?
Not fully true. Testers tend to choose rather heavy dos games like gta or alone in the dark or other 3d games. Of course, they are slow and resource-demanding. Older games like Dangerous Dave 2/3/4 or Jazz Jackrabbit or Prehistorik 2 run fullspeed.
And no, 512 won't give any advantage to dosbox. As for optimizations, some could be applied like profile compiling but this won't give much of a speed-up. Further optimizations of dosbox itself is a long-time and tedious task, though its mips recompiler could be improved.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: zear on April 21, 2013, 06:45:52 pm
Older games like Dangerous Dave 2/3/4 or Jazz Jackrabbit or Prehistorik 2 run fullspeed.
Jazz Jackrabbit has issues. It's playable and close to fullspeed in some areas, but there are slowdowns in some parts of the levels.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: BAFelton on April 21, 2013, 06:52:06 pm
Yep, sorry for my part i want to try heavy games.

Here come 2 more :

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/573765IMG13691.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=573765IMG13691.jpg)

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/370004IMG13711.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=370004IMG13711.jpg)


Zog, Zog :D

WC2 is a bit laggy but playable.

Offtopic : Hey d_smagin, you're a TOOL lover ?
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Looper on April 21, 2013, 07:32:32 pm
Thanks for the reply, I look forward to testing out a few games when I receive my GCW!
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: 3xcl4m4t10n on April 21, 2013, 08:57:37 pm
Maybe dsX86 will uprise the dos emulation. But the author needs a GCW Zero to port it.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: jimclarson on April 21, 2013, 10:02:57 pm
It does look a little bit more polished. Are the speakers any better? Asking just out of curiosity, I don't think I'll be using them much anyway.

yes, i too would like to know if the speaker quality has been improved. i have a frankenzero and while its tolerable it leaves much to be desired. i hope on the final units the speakers have been changed for some higher quality ones, hopefully louder as well.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: mills on April 21, 2013, 10:09:51 pm
This looks awesome!. I might buy one, but first i want to know...

Is there any windows manager-desktop? or is it "just" for games?  I'd love to have a linux desktop :)
Could somebody test this MS-DOS game? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksMPiyNq3ac
The video says (windows) but it also has a ms-dos version, and runs well at 320x240

Thanks!
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Prophet on April 21, 2013, 10:41:40 pm
This looks awesome!. I might buy one, but first i want to know...

Is there any windows manager-desktop? or is it "just" for games? I'd love to have a linux desktop :)
Could somebody test this MS-DOS game? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksMPiyNq3ac
The video says (windows) but it also has a ms-dos version, and runs well at 320x240

Thanks!

Hmm... I don't think the GCW Zero is going to be quite what you really want. Check out the Pandora instead.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: pcercuei on April 21, 2013, 11:22:58 pm
No window manager. 'Cause we have no windows.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: NoeL on April 22, 2013, 06:23:22 am
Could somebody test this MS-DOS game? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksMPiyNq3ac
The video says (windows) but it also has a ms-dos version, and runs well at 320x240
Woot! I love Ignition - would be awesome if it runs.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: dmitry_smagin on April 22, 2013, 06:54:31 am
Ignition will be slow. As I already mentioned, dos games released after 1995 and all 3d games will run slow on GCW-Zero. Don't get excited.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: NoeL on April 22, 2013, 10:55:22 am
Any chance of this being improved once hardware acceleration is up and running?
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: zear on April 22, 2013, 12:20:26 pm
Ignition doesn't run at all. I tested it one day, it stayed for 10min on a black screen.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: dmitry_smagin on April 22, 2013, 12:30:42 pm
Any chance of this being improved once hardware acceleration is up and running?
The only hardware acceleration that might be useful is hardware image resizing. Thus, downscaling from whatever resolution to 320x240 won't take much resources. In addition high resolutions with tv-out will be possible. In othe words, hardware acceleration will affect image post-processing only, not speeding up the emulation itself.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: mills on April 22, 2013, 02:30:48 pm
Thanks a lot.

Does this GCW run android?  there is also re-volt for android, another cool game :)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: ruffnutts on April 22, 2013, 03:01:02 pm
Thanks a lot.

Does this GCW run android?  there is also re-volt for android, another cool game :)

No GCW runs Linux
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: TimeDevouncer on April 23, 2013, 07:30:37 pm
New videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ADn3-7CnWQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1g9UypfelP4

Thanks to BAFBAF ;)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: doglush on April 24, 2013, 03:16:25 am
Maybe you have to use Twin Engine to play LittleBigAdventure instead of DosBox.

http://twin-e.sourceforge.net/
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: zear on April 24, 2013, 03:35:38 am
Twin-e is far too unfinished and buggy. I remember it crashing all the time on the Dingoo.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: BAFelton on April 24, 2013, 08:32:32 pm
For those who hoped for Carmaggedon, sorry it's waaay too laggy, even with slowest details.

No surprise.

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/412400IMG13751.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=412400IMG13751.jpg)


Playable : Settlers.

(http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/376242P1010526.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=376242P1010526.jpg)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: yerffej on April 24, 2013, 10:11:14 pm
Is there a working GBA emulator? If so can we see some Mother 3 action?  ;D
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Sensei on April 25, 2013, 11:17:47 am
Is there a working GBA emulator? If so can we see some Mother 3 action?  ;D
I'd love to see this as well.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: ruffnutts on April 26, 2013, 03:24:59 pm
Here is a port by Jerome of King of Fighters Flames of Courage v5 running on BennuGD now supported on the GCW
Under the latest firmware 18th of April... sorry for my shit gameplay lol  8)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhlQpt_yTiU

Thanks for watching...
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: qbertaddict on April 29, 2013, 05:35:00 pm
This is something really really cool

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IS8Pj1KBtu0
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Sensei on April 29, 2013, 05:52:32 pm
This is something really really cool

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IS8Pj1KBtu0

Does that mean what I think it does?
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: ruffnutts on April 29, 2013, 06:04:01 pm
@Sensei I think it means what you think it means lol
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: fosamax on April 29, 2013, 06:11:17 pm
Good news and good job guys !
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Losk on April 29, 2013, 07:36:55 pm
This is something really really cool

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IS8Pj1KBtu0

Sweet! :) Thanks to all the devs who worked on this!
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Prophet on April 29, 2013, 08:14:10 pm
Nice. That's a lot of RAM for a handheld!
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: ithought on April 29, 2013, 10:15:32 pm
This is something really really cool

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IS8Pj1KBtu0

Does that mean what I think it does?
what do you think it means?
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Inertia on April 30, 2013, 12:22:17 am
So it mean what I think that they think it mean?

wait...

anyway congrats to the devs, now  that things will be only routine (flashing units, packaging and sending) I hope that we'll see the the light at the end on the tunnel soon :)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: NoeL on April 30, 2013, 04:03:23 am
Woot! So does this mean flashing and shipping can commence?
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Articus on April 30, 2013, 04:24:38 am
Woot! So does this mean flashing and shipping can commence?

Noel, I think this means that optimization, code clean-up and debugging can commence.  Im sure they will test for stuff like OS crashes, screen artifacts, and other similar issues.  But still, its GREAT news!!  :)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: pcercuei on April 30, 2013, 06:00:15 am
Woot! So does this mean flashing and shipping can commence?

Noel, I think this means that optimization, code clean-up and debugging can commence.  Im sure they will test for stuff like OS crashes, screen artifacts, and other similar issues.  But still, its GREAT news!!  :)

Nah. The OS is ready to be flashed.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Articus on April 30, 2013, 06:01:56 am
Really!!!   You guys ROCK!!   :'(  "tears of joy . . . "
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: ruffnutts on April 30, 2013, 09:16:30 am
New PrBoom port... PrBoom+ ported by Johnnyonflame 19th of April

Here is Final Fantasy III Mod  8)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtVjrevWaU4


ruffnutts ;)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Sensei on April 30, 2013, 10:37:16 am
This is all great news! BTW where is Purdue?  This is stuff the PR guy should be proud to share.  He had to deal with do much negative, he should be able to share in the good news.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Yrx on April 30, 2013, 03:01:09 pm
This is all great news! BTW where is Purdue?  This is stuff the PR guy should be proud to share.  He had to deal with do much negative, he should be able to share in the good news.

+1, kind of makes me nervous we'll get an update soon saying there's been another delay, lol...
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: zear on May 05, 2013, 09:40:18 pm
If you guys ever wondered how a wi-fi match between two units looks like:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xloun36_KT8

Note both units are connected via a local router, we don't have ad-hoc running properly yet.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: RupeeClock on May 05, 2013, 10:01:30 pm
That's great, do you have any sort of back-end work in mind that makes it easier for developers to set up wireless ad-hoc for their own applications?
Ad-hoc between emulators would be pretty amazing.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: zear on May 05, 2013, 10:35:31 pm
That's great, do you have any sort of back-end work in mind that makes it easier for developers to set up wireless ad-hoc for their own applications?
Ad-hoc between emulators would be pretty amazing.
No such functionality is needed. Once the devices connect, they assign certain IP addresses in the local network. Now it's up to the application developers to either let the player type the IP address of the opponent, or make their app scan the entire LAN IP range (1-254 for managed, 1-2 for ad-hoc) and detect a running server. The latter is what Chocolate Doom does.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: RupeeClock on May 05, 2013, 10:58:16 pm
No such functionality is needed. Once the devices connect, they assign certain IP addresses in the local network. Now it's up to the application developers to either let the player type the IP address of the opponent, or make their app scan the entire LAN IP range (1-254 for managed, 1-2 for ad-hoc) and detect a running server. The latter is what Chocolate Doom does.

Just 1-2 for ad-hoc? Does that mean that only two GCW Zeros may interact wireless simultaneously? That you'd otherwise need to set up WLAN for large-scale wireless connectivity?
Or is this something that can also be managed for each individual application? After all, some games can host a multitude of players.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: zear on May 05, 2013, 11:04:45 pm
If you have a router (access point), you can connect 254 GCWs in one network. Ad-hoc in it's classic meaning is only meant for 2 devices. However, I am not familiar with the modern approaches to device-device wireless connectivity, maybe you can connect more devices.

Please note right now we don't support any ad-hoc connectivity. So you need to have a local wifi network in the area and connect your GCWs units to it for them to be able to see each other.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: RupeeClock on May 05, 2013, 11:29:57 pm
If you have a router (access point), you can connect 254 GCWs in one network. Ad-hoc in it's classic meaning is only meant for 2 devices. However, I am not familiar with the modern approaches to device-device wireless connectivity, maybe you can connect more devices.

Please note right now we don't support any ad-hoc connectivity. So you need to have a local wifi network in the area and connect your GCWs units to it for them to be able to see each other.

This might come as quite a surprise to some people, connecting to a wireless router to establish WLAN isn't typically expected for modern handheld devices. They probably expect the systems to just connect to each other without something in-between.
Gaming systems such as the Nintendo DS and 3DS support local multiplayer with more than 2 systems for example.
It's somewhat the norm so that's the assumption made I guess.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: zear on May 05, 2013, 11:35:46 pm
GCW Zero is not a DS though. If they bought it thinking it will work like a DS, they will be surprised.
That said, since the wifi is in a working state, we've moved our focus on the more important parts of the system. Once the devices are out, I'm sure we'll add ad-hoc support sooner or later.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: RupeeClock on May 06, 2013, 12:26:27 am
It's not so much the branding or anything, just the expected level of wifi technology at least.
Maybe the DS employs different wireless technology to the GCW Zero, I don't know.

In any case, the fact that it does support Wireless 802.11 b/g/n 2.4GHz with connection to wireless hotspots and direct device-to-device is already superb, and is far more than most devices like these have accomplished.
The Caanoo was only capable of wifi with a USB dongle, hah. :P
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: elwing on May 06, 2013, 06:43:07 am
It might also be interesting to remind people that the DS only support WEP, making it unable to connect to most access point, even to my own router as the provider does not allow that...
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: RupeeClock on May 06, 2013, 10:04:45 am
It might also be interesting to remind people that the DS only support WEP, making it unable to connect to most access point, even to my own router as the provider does not allow that...

The original DS at least. DSi and 3DS do support WPA2 encryption.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: lemmywinks on May 06, 2013, 10:12:01 am
It might also be interesting to remind people that the DS only support WEP, making it unable to connect to most access point, even to my own router as the provider does not allow that...

Just buy a USB Wifi AP, I think mine was £4 delivered from eBay, you can just unplug it after use so much better than having WEP for your main connection!
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: zear on May 07, 2013, 06:45:57 pm
A new video from me:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvL2pmIrtxI

Yep, we've got a USB HUB support now, thanks to xl0.
Right now having 3+ gamepads plugged to the GCW might seem pointless, but just wait until we have TV-OUT driver... :)

Actually... if someone has 2 TVs, 2 GCWs and 8 gamepads, a wi-fi match of two 4 player split-screen Doom games would be possible. Now where could I get a second TV... ;)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: RupeeClock on May 07, 2013, 06:59:47 pm
Blimey, the idea of two GCW0's running an 8player match like that is very cool.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: robert2098 on May 07, 2013, 07:58:38 pm
Wow, that looks great. But for multiple controller to be really useful you would indeed want TV-Out support. However for a 4-player split screen Doom game you only have a resolution of 160*120 per player. Seems very low to play Doom or could a TV-Driver offer higher resolutions that the internal display?

Also would it technically be possible to use both the internal display and external display at the same time but both displaying a different screen?

Robert


B.T.W. Many thanks to all the GWC-0 software developers. Without you the GCW-0 would only be a fancy brick.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: the_gama on May 08, 2013, 03:57:18 am
Wow, that looks great. But for multiple controller to be really useful you would indeed want TV-Out support. However for a 4-player split screen Doom game you only have a resolution of 160*120 per player.

I think the purpose of the video was to show the USB hosts support only.  But I'm pretty sure the stuff you request are or will be supported. 

I would love to play some MAME multiplayers on a TV screen ;P.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: qbertaddict on May 08, 2013, 05:14:27 am
Sound stutter gone and 16bpp added now running emulators twice as fast

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4uA0l89wCs
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Sensei on May 08, 2013, 07:28:17 am
Wonderful news!  Thank you so much devs!  So, now the flashing can commence?
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Prophet on May 08, 2013, 08:01:38 am
Sound stutter gone and 16bpp added now running emulators twice as fast

FANTASTIC!!!

Great work devs!
Title: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Agrajag on May 08, 2013, 09:24:55 am
Thanks for the updates, guys.  Looking really good! I never thought I'd see four player split-screen on a handheld console.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: RupeeClock on May 08, 2013, 10:34:40 am
Thanks for the updates, guys.  Looking really good! I never thought I'd see four player split-screen on a handheld console.
Indeed! Although they certainly have tv-out planned for that much.

The emulators were already running superb before, but now that they can run natively in the appropriate 16bpp mode? Fantastic.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Ritz on May 08, 2013, 11:44:58 am
Thanks a ton for the amazing vid, qbert! Seeing this is indeed fantastic.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: doglush on May 08, 2013, 11:47:52 am
Thanks for the video !!! Seeing the real thing between my hand should be even more fantastic. :)
All bugs are solved now. Until someone find another one and add shipping delay...
Boring.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Burb on May 08, 2013, 12:43:00 pm
Great job devs!

But the big question is.. who do I have to bribe to get white face buttons, nub, d-pad.. when the units ship.
I must also get a cool looking gcw like that. white on black <3
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: hi-ban on May 08, 2013, 12:51:44 pm
maybe you can make a deal with someone who has a white unit and wants black buttons on it...
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Atlantis_Risen on May 08, 2013, 03:49:53 pm
Great job devs!

But the big question is.. who do I have to bribe to get white face buttons, nub, d-pad.. when the units ship.
I must also get a cool looking gcw like that. white on black <3

Really?  I thought the black buttons and gamepad look so much better.

A new video from me:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvL2pmIrtxI

Yep, we've got a USB HUB support now, thanks to xl0.
Right now having 3+ gamepads plugged to the GCW might seem pointless, but just wait until we have TV-OUT driver... :)

Actually... if someone has 2 TVs, 2 GCWs and 8 gamepads, a wi-fi match of two 4 player split-screen Doom games would be possible. Now where could I get a second TV... ;)

This multi-controller aspect (with TV out) interests me greatly.  Will this work with all emulators?  Could I fire up Metal Slug, plug in 4 gamepads in this way and play with three other people on a TV?  Or any other game, like Bomberman, or arcade games through Mame?  If so, I am in!!
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: zear on May 08, 2013, 04:05:30 pm
This multi-controller aspect (with TV out) interests me greatly.  Will this work with all emulators?  Could I fire up Metal Slug, plug in 4 gamepads in this way and play with three other people on a TV?  Or any other game, like Bomberman, or arcade games through Mame?  If so, I am in!!
This is solely dependent on the given program (game/emulator) and whether it's developer added joystick interface support. By that I mean a way to select the gamepad device, remap it's buttons, etc.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Ghaleon on May 08, 2013, 08:30:18 pm
Sound stutter gone and 16bpp added now running emulators twice as fast

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4uA0l89wCs

This is great Qbert!  Thank you.  Can you or somebody else post a video that shows how Outrun runs now?  Does it run at 60 frames per second, full speed?  If it does, it will be worth it to buy a Zero just for that reason alone, on my opinion.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: the_gama on May 09, 2013, 04:59:30 am
Qbertaddict, could you please test chrono trigger again, but this time simply let the intro run, and see how it runs? There are a couple of spells that are very cpu intensive, specially the big bouncing frog.  And how is mario rpg running now? I wanted to play it fullspeed on a hanheld since the PSP.

And thanks for the video.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: pcercuei on May 09, 2013, 05:37:28 am
Big bouncing frog:
- snes9x4d, 32kHz sound: ~52/60fps
- pocketSNES, 44.1kHz sound: 60/60fps

Super Mario RPG runs mostly fullspeed though some parts of the intro drop the FPS to ~45/60 with snes9x4d. PocketSNES runs it at a constant 60/60 FPS.

All tests done with transparency ON and fullscreen OFF.

Note that currently all the apps have to use a software surface, we will have another speed boost (not x2 this time ;)) once double buffering and VSYNC are added to the framebuffer driver.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: skelton on May 09, 2013, 09:44:31 am

That sound great pcercuel. Just a question. Is there any difference between Pockesnes and Snes9x4d? Maybe in terms of accuracy?
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: hi-ban on May 09, 2013, 09:51:59 am
snes9x4d is slower, but more accurate, and supports more special chips.
pocketsnes is faster, but the emulation is less accurate and some games with special chips won't work or have graphical issues.

well, at least that's how it was in the dingoo.

EDIT: oh, and the menu is also different. snes9x4d's internal menu is only for settings and roms must be launched with gmenu2x's rom browser, while pocketsnes has a rom browser integrated into its own menu.

anyway, the gcw0 is powerful enough to run both emulators at full speed.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: skelton on May 09, 2013, 10:02:56 am
snes9x4d is slower, but more accurate, and supports more special chips.
pocketsnes is faster, but the emulation is less accurate and some games with special chips won't work or have graphical issues.

well, at least that's how it was in the dingoo.

EDIT: oh, and the menu is also different. snes9x4d's internal menu is only for settings and roms must be launched with gmenu2x's rom browser, while pocketsnes has a rom browser integrated into its own menu.

anyway, the gcw0 is powerful enough to run both emulators at full speed.

Thanks, that's what I thought. In Dingoo was this way as you say, but didn't know in GCW0 was the same way. Great performance in both emus in any case.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: RupeeClock on May 09, 2013, 12:30:32 pm
Big bouncing frog:
- snes9x4d, 32kHz sound: ~52/60fps
- pocketSNES, 44.1kHz sound: 60/60fps

Super Mario RPG runs mostly fullspeed though some parts of the intro drop the FPS to ~45/60 with snes9x4d. PocketSNES runs it at a constant 60/60 FPS.

All tests done with transparency ON and fullscreen OFF.

Note that currently all the apps have to use a software surface, we will have another speed boost (not x2 this time ;)) once double buffering and VSYNC are added to the framebuffer driver.

That sounds good, but I'm just wondering, is VSYNC actually necessary on a 320x240 display running a 256x224 output? I would think there wouldn't be any vertical sync issues if there's no upscaling or many vertical rows to worry about.
Then again, maybe it's something to do with the LCD timings, I'm not all too familiar with these details, although I more than remember the GP2X Wiz's screen tear issues (thanks to using a 240x320 screen like a 320x240 screen.)

Edit: It's also worth asking if the processor can be overclocked. I assume that these applications are run at stock speed (1GHz), however the Ingenic JZ4770 should be able to overclock like the Ingenic JZ4740 inside the Supercard DStwo or the Dingoo A320, right?
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: pcercuei on May 09, 2013, 04:27:10 pm
Vsync + double buffering will eliminate tearing and provide a butter smooth picture, plus a speed boost as hardware surfaces can then be used.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: RupeeClock on May 09, 2013, 04:29:24 pm
Vsync + double buffering will eliminate tearing and provide a butter smooth picture, plus a speed boost as hardware surfaces can then be used.

Normally Vsync and double/triple buffering can cause slowdown if you want to remove tearing, but if you can use the hardware to get around this then that should be great.
I've heard that the Dingoo software had something similar done back then, to achieve a 10FPS boost
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: pcercuei on May 09, 2013, 05:03:00 pm
Vsync doesn't cause a slowdown, it smoothes animation. If a game produces 45 frames a second, with vsync it will only push 30 perfect frames per second (frameskip 1). That may sound like it's worse, but a constant 30fps is much better than a variable 45fps.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: RupeeClock on May 09, 2013, 05:52:44 pm
Vsync doesn't cause a slowdown, it smoothes animation. If a game produces 45 frames a second, with vsync it will only push 30 perfect frames per second (frameskip 1). That may sound like it's worse, but a constant 30fps is much better than a variable 45fps.
That much I can understand, varying framerate with non-uniform frameskip can be quite unpleasant, and many games still handle wonderfully at a consistent frameskip 1.
As smooth 60/60FPS is concerned though, if a game has a smooth 60fps without v-sync but suffers from tearing, is there not the possibility of slowdown when enabling v-sync?
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: pcercuei on May 09, 2013, 05:55:41 pm
If your game runs 60/60 without vsync, it will run 60/60 with vsync.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: RupeeClock on May 09, 2013, 06:01:11 pm
If your game runs 60/60 without vsync, it will run 60/60 with vsync.
That's great to hear.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: the_gama on May 10, 2013, 02:35:02 am
Big bouncing frog:
- snes9x4d, 32kHz sound: ~52/60fps
- pocketSNES, 44.1kHz sound: 60/60fps

Super Mario RPG runs mostly fullspeed though some parts of the intro drop the FPS to ~45/60 with snes9x4d. PocketSNES runs it at a constant 60/60 FPS.

All tests done with transparency ON and fullscreen OFF.

Note that currently all the apps have to use a software surface, we will have another speed boost (not x2 this time ;)) once double buffering and VSYNC are added to the framebuffer driver.

Thanks pcercuei, seems quite fast already ;).  I was waiting for a handheld to do a decent job emulating those games, cuz I don't like to play with lots of frameskip.  And it seems that finally I will be able to play them on a handheld the way I like ;P.

I can foresee a great success for the zero, congrats to all the people envolved in this project.   
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: gamefreak_joey on May 10, 2013, 06:52:40 am
Big bouncing frog:
- snes9x4d, 32kHz sound: ~52/60fps
- pocketSNES, 44.1kHz sound: 60/60fps

Super Mario RPG runs mostly fullspeed though some parts of the intro drop the FPS to ~45/60 with snes9x4d. PocketSNES runs it at a constant 60/60 FPS.

All tests done with transparency ON and fullscreen OFF.

Note that currently all the apps have to use a software surface, we will have another speed boost (not x2 this time ;)) once double buffering and VSYNC are added to the framebuffer driver.

Any way you could try The Legend of Zelda: A Link To The Past? Have there been any videos of this yet? Could someone record one? I'd love to see it in action with these new improvements.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: RodrigoCard on May 11, 2013, 06:22:28 am
About vsync, it is always good to have the option to disable, some games benefit from that on most platforms.
It may sound like an OCD, but I can notice 1 frame lag on most classic games.  :P
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: pcercuei on May 11, 2013, 07:15:14 am
About vsync, it is always good to have the option to disable, some games benefit from that on most platforms.
It may sound like an OCD, but I can notice 1 frame lag on most classic games.  :P
VSYNC will be forced. But I disagree that some games benefit from VSYNC being disabled. VSYNC gives you a smooth animation without tearing; disable it and you'll notice frame lags.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: RupeeClock on May 11, 2013, 12:36:24 pm
VSYNC will be forced. But I disagree that some games benefit from VSYNC being disabled. VSYNC gives you a smooth animation without tearing; disable it and you'll notice frame lags.

It sounds like VSYNC is a core feature of the kernal/firmware/graphics driver rather than an application setting, so it applies to all software launched on the system then?
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: pcercuei on May 11, 2013, 03:52:55 pm
Exactly.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: RupeeClock on May 11, 2013, 04:19:10 pm
That being the case then, I can understand why there won't be any impacted performance.
You guys are really going the extra mile to make this the best you can, why improve each individual application when you can make the whole thing run buttery smooth?
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: 3xcl4m4t10n on May 12, 2013, 01:53:25 am
whats about CPS3? There are a lot of time we dont heard about it. Any news will be welcome.

Is there aby improvement om dosbox due to 16bpp?

Thanks!
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: RodrigoCard on May 12, 2013, 02:13:41 am
About vsync, it is always good to have the option to disable, some games benefit from that on most platforms.
It may sound like an OCD, but I can notice 1 frame lag on most classic games.  :P
VSYNC will be forced. But I disagree that some games benefit from VSYNC being disabled. VSYNC gives you a smooth animation without tearing; disable it and you'll notice frame lags.

Well, if it dont affect performance, nice! :)
But, can you switch between 50/60hz ?
Otherwise 50hz games will not look nice. Disabling vsync in games that dont run at 60hz helps if you cant change the refresh rate
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: darksavior on May 13, 2013, 05:26:54 am
whats about CPS3? There are a lot of time we dont heard about it. Any news will be welcome.

Is there aby improvement om dosbox due to 16bpp?

Thanks!

CPS3 is unplayable on the fba i'm using. ~5 fps. Might be better on mame4all but I don't have it.
And yes, I did flash the new firmware with the 16bpp speedup.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: 3xcl4m4t10n on May 14, 2013, 01:08:32 am
Thank you so much! And whats about dosbox? i hope omf 2097 gain that few frames it needs. Anyway openomf have received a big update these days so maybe soon it will be running on our gcw zeos.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: darksavior on May 14, 2013, 09:45:43 am
With OMF I would guess at 15-20fps with default in-game graphics and sound. 40+ fps with sound but all graphics settings turned off(shadows/etc). There's major slowdowns when i hit/get hit even after disabling stuff.
I don't have much experience in using dosbox so there might be ways to optimize it
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Articus on May 14, 2013, 10:04:36 pm
Ive got one for you all:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_ggaiOWzYY
Enjoy!
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: alyinsanfran on May 14, 2013, 10:26:57 pm
Great video and great idea.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: ruffnutts on May 17, 2013, 02:56:21 pm
Fun Times

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/ruffnutts/P1060108.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/ruffnutts/P1060109.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/ruffnutts/P1060110.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/ruffnutts/P1060111.jpg)

ruffnutts 8)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Prophet on May 17, 2013, 03:02:15 pm
Ive got one for you all:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_ggaiOWzYY
Enjoy!

Love it! I have an arcade cab. Might be fun to try something like this someday. But mine has an actual CGA arcade monitor, so at the moment I'm not sure what I'd need to do for video output.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: alyinsanfran on May 18, 2013, 05:29:11 am
Fun Times

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/ruffnutts/P1060108.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/ruffnutts/P1060109.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/ruffnutts/P1060110.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v206/ruffnutts/P1060111.jpg)

ruffnutts 8)

That'll never fit in your pocket mate..;-)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: ruffnutts on May 18, 2013, 11:26:27 am
You aint seen the size of my pockets pmsl
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: alyinsanfran on May 18, 2013, 03:21:35 pm
Edit: Figured out an answer to my question.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: BAFelton on May 27, 2013, 06:28:00 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKawZLQDgGo
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Sensei on May 27, 2013, 03:00:03 pm
Awesome video!  Thank you!

I heard there was a Wonderswan one floating around as well, or did I just imagine that?
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Yrx on June 06, 2013, 04:46:58 am
I'm going to write up some impressions/a review, probably tomorrow. Spoiler: generally positive.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Yrx on June 06, 2013, 05:30:15 pm
INITIAL IMPRESSIONS AND REVIEW
(updates to be added sporadically)


Alright! So I promised zear some feedback, and here's where it's going to be.

Hardware

First I want to talk about the hardware, because this is the part that can't be changed. The software is going to be improved with time, but the hardware you get is what comes in the box. Luckily, everything looks quite solid. Build quality is excellent, and it looks like it will hold up quite well over the years.

The design is EXTREMELY reminiscent of earlier handhelds like the GP2X, and for some reason the old Sega GameGear (albeit 1/3 the size). The entire assembly is high quality plastic, and it has just enough weight that it feels substantial, not like a cheap toy. A lot of the time on devices this size the buttons can feel cramped (GP2X made it hard to properly play Mega Man X), but all the spacing on this particular handheld is very good. Everything just feels RIGHT in hand.

My only complaint on this part is that the tolerances in the controls are extremely tight. The d-pad in particular is difficult to work fluidly, and on occasion gets stuck in the down position. You can already see the rub points on the plastic, so my guess is that it will loosen up nicely after some hard use. The buttons and analog nub suffer from this as well, but once again I think it just needs some time to loosen up. If it bothered you enough and you were impatient, you could probably file down the plastic so it opened up some space. (EDIT: I guess GCW is discouraging this as it would void the warranty. If it doesn't loosen up over time, get a replacement under warranty.)

Oh, one other thing I want to mention about the d-pad: In pictures, it looks like a circle pad like the Sega Saturn and Genesis used. It is NOT, the circle is just recessed plastic, and the d-pad is classic Nintendo-style. It may or may not make much of a difference to you, but I figured I would mention it because it surprised me a little.

The screen is bright and clear! I was a little worried when I first opened up the box, because the screen almost instantly developed scratches. However, it turns out there was a second screen protector, and upon taking that off the actual plastic seems to be quite hard (although prone to fingerprints and dust).

Let me just say that it is REALLY nice to have things like TV-out built in, especially considering it has options for HDMI and regular old component cables. I didn't test it, and if I recall correctly it's not ready yet anyways.

What else... Volume gets plenty loud. I wish there were physical volume controls, but the solution that was used isn't horrible, just confusing until you figure it out. I'm a bit of an audiophile, but I haven't listened to any music with my headphones yet (will DEFINITELY update on this at some point). I also wish USB was detected as a simple mass storage device as opposed to this goofy thing with FTP. Maybe there's some legitimate reason for it, but to the simple user the simplest solution would have been preferred. There's nothing super unusual other than what I mentioned; it's a well built device.

Software

The OS is very light and responsive! Boot up time is FAST, especially comparing it to my old GP2X; I'd say about a second or two and it's ready. GMenu2X is a fairly simple solution to use for the GUI, and for a device like this it works rather well. I'll definitely be attempting to recreate the old Windows 3.1 theme that's on my GP2X. It would be nice to have a clock somewhere on the top or bottom, but I guess it's not so crucial since you won't be spending a whole lot of time lounging on this screen.

The included games are (for the most part) RUTHLESS. No hand-holding smartphone games here! For the most part everything plays quite well, it's just hard. Some people will like this, some people might wish for a more easygoing experience. I have to say my favorite so far is the preview of Unnamed Monkey Game. Do yourself a favor and download Cave Story, especially if you've never played it. In my opinion one of the greatest "indie" games ever made, and before indie was really a thing.

I did download some emulators already, and they definitely need some polish. PicoDrive (Genesis/Sega CD) is in good shape already (aside from some screen tearing in stretched mode), but I couldn't find the scaling options in PocketSNES, and gpSP (GBA) wouldn't even run (trying to play Yu-Gi-Oh! Worldwide Edition). Expect lots of progress on these as time goes on. PSX isn't ready yet I guess, and N64 is still a thought in someone's mind. For some reason higher quality audio wasn't working through the speakers... I'm hoping this is just a software issue, or at least that it will work through the headphone jack.

The thing I will point out here is the major drawback of the homebrew scene. Namely, the fact that there's very little consistency between apps for menus, system functions, how to exit, etc. You open up one of the emulators, and the first thing it does is ask for a ROM; you open up another, and it has a start menu, and you can hardly even FIND the ROMs. I think it would be an excellent idea if a few people got together and made a list of recommended guidelines for how different apps function, just so there isn't a learning curve every time a new one is made.

Final Initial Thoughts

There is a lot of potential here, and the past seems to indicate that a lot of that potential will be fulfilled. Devices like this seem to attract talented programmers, and that's all it needs at this point. Expect a lot of surprises going forward, and people appearing out of nowhere to release great games and emulators that no one was expecting.

All that being said, there are a couple specific things that could use some work, and will really improve the device overall.

-more consistency between apps, probably through some general programming guidelines
-general polish and final touches in things like emulators
-an informative file database somewhere online; Google Docs is okay for right this second, but something like OpenHandhelds.org would be really ideal (or even something similar on the official GCW website)
-more programmers, more apps, keep it coming!

Everything's looking good so far, and if you're still waiting it won't be much longer! Units are still shipping out as I write this, and as more people get it, many of them will have the aptitude to program for and expand the platform.

Thanks for reading, and I hope you get yours soon!

UPDATE 1!

I took some time to test the sound capabilities using GMU. My first hurdle was realizing that it didn't have support built in for mp3 since it's not a free codec. It's only a matter of time before someone else writes another player that has full codec support, and I doubt it will take long. Luckily, I did have some FLAC and OGG files to test out. I wasn't expecting too much, so I'm not terribly disappointed. Sound is actually quite good coming through the speakers, and as I said before it can get plenty loud. I tested the headphone jack with my Ultrasone Signature Pro headphones, and for the most part the sound is passable. There is plenty of volume, but there is some background hiss noticeable. johnnyonflame says he will inform the hardware people to see if this is fixable, as it might be poor isolation between the sound components and the rest of the board (which is definitely what it sounds like to me). It's also possible that it could be a software issue with GMU or even ALSA (the thing that manages all sound for the entire system). Either way, it's really not too terrible, and actually sounds pretty darned good with PicoDrive. I honestly doubt most people will notice what I did, because my ears are spoiled and I was specifically listening for it. There are some sporadic pops when going through menus as well. Considering my GP2X randomly changes the left and right ears whenever it feels like, I think this is a pretty solid platform so far.

qbertaddict was kind enough to hook me up with many of the newer versions of emulators, and I did some more testing using a couple different options. snes9x4d definitely has better scaling options than PocketSNES (read: any at all), but it struggled a bit more with transparencies, and sound is absolutely horrendous (at least in Mega Man X; every charge shot I let off sounds like a cat is dying). Put some scaling options in PocketSNES and for 99% of my games I'll be happy. PicoDrive is still extremely solid. The original author, notaz, really put some love into it, and it still shows after all these years. Maybe if we ask nicely he'll come by and polish it back up.  :) The new version that I received was supposed to have working VSync, but I'm definitely still getting some screen tearing. I should also note that in all of these, sound will not work properly at 44.1 khz. It's not exactly that important for chiptunes, but perhaps it's related to some of the other sound issues. I finally got gpSP working (didn't realize you needed a BIOS), but sound was crackly. Also, the scaling options are original GBA (which is in a tiny box), or fullscreen (which stretches the aspect ratio). I haven't tried anything else tonight, and I most likely won't since I have work tomorrow.

My original impression stands that the software definitely needs quite a bit of polishing yet. Someone on chat (johnnyonflame?) was saying that the sound drivers were one of those things that would need to be completely rewritten to be at 100% compatibility. Don't get me wrong, everything is WORKING to some degree, just expect some glitches and little things to persist for a while. But the good news is that it's only a matter of time until it all gets ironed out. :)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: qbertaddict on June 06, 2013, 07:10:25 pm
Good review. Pocketsnes is a good emulator but snes9x4d has everything you could want. Come on irc and I will hook you up.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: MacDonals on June 06, 2013, 07:40:27 pm
I heard there was a Wonderswan one floating around as well, or did I just imagine that?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HiYNkTIxLo

Not sure how many WonderSwan games are playable without knowing Japanese.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: RupeeClock on June 06, 2013, 07:42:26 pm
I heard there was a Wonderswan one floating around as well, or did I just imagine that?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HiYNkTIxLo

Not sure how many WonderSwan games are playable without knowing Japanese.

A few thanks to the wonders of translation patches.
http://www.romhacking.net/?page=translations&genre=&platform=21&status=&languageid=12&perpage=20&title=&author=&transsearch=Go

I'm looking forward to trying out Rockman EXE WS myself.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Yrx on June 07, 2013, 07:08:24 am
I've played around a little bit more with sound and emulators, and I updated my large post on the previous page.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: cruelcynic on June 07, 2013, 01:15:33 pm
YRX already did an awesome write up so I will just add my few thoughts and a quick picture of mine.

The build quality is good. It does not feel like a cheap toy. All the button presses feel good and I have not had buttons sticking so far on mine. The cross style dpad is excellent. The speakers are loud. The screen is bright. I actually drop it down a few steps even during the day. At night I can really turn down the brightness. I love the color quality in the screen. It is hard to capture in an image but it is bright and vibrant with no ghosting. The analog stick is responsive with zero drift.

So far it is everything I was looking for in a handheld. I am really looking forward to seeing how the software grows in time.

One last thing. Everyone needs to try UMG. It is very fun so far. I think it is going to be a must have indie game when complete.


(http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/5360/gcwzerowhite.jpg)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Articus on June 10, 2013, 03:57:08 am
Great Reviews guys!  I want to read more, and love to know what everyone else thinks.  Keep'em coming!   :)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Chiba3010 on June 15, 2013, 12:57:24 am
Great submissions folks, so happy the console is quickly proving itself to be the top-shelf slice of handheld awesomeness I'd hoped it to be. As a KS backer, I've still got a bit of a wait ahead of me but I'm getting more and more excited with all the positive impressions the SE Zeros continue to garner. :)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: alyinsanfran on June 15, 2013, 01:57:36 am
Agreed, nice review CruelCynic!
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Orion4874 on June 16, 2013, 09:18:31 am
Sorry guys, this is somewhat overdue. I received my SE last week but my wife's health has been declining so I haven't had much time for gaming, or anything else for that matter.
Anyway, here's some pics of my new SE, which kicks ass BTW!

(http://i912.photobucket.com/albums/ac321/Orion4874/IMG_20130616_014538_zpsdc341dd1.jpg) (http://s912.photobucket.com/user/Orion4874/media/IMG_20130616_014538_zpsdc341dd1.jpg.html)

(http://i912.photobucket.com/albums/ac321/Orion4874/IMG_20130616_014622_zps537740e9.jpg) (http://s912.photobucket.com/user/Orion4874/media/IMG_20130616_014622_zps537740e9.jpg.html)

(http://i912.photobucket.com/albums/ac321/Orion4874/IMG_20130616_015349_zps444fcb0c.jpg) (http://s912.photobucket.com/user/Orion4874/media/IMG_20130616_015349_zps444fcb0c.jpg.html)

(http://i912.photobucket.com/albums/ac321/Orion4874/IMG_20130616_015251_zps8af4684e.jpg) (http://s912.photobucket.com/user/Orion4874/media/IMG_20130616_015251_zps8af4684e.jpg.html)


I actually received my SE last week but haven't had much spare time lately. I have already posted a review when I received my proto unit but I'll restate some of the important facts.
I don't have the dpad issue that others have come across. Mine moves freely with no problems at all and as I stated previously I love the dpad on the Zero, very comfortable and responsive. The analog is a bit tight but I'm sure that will loosen up with use. All the buttons work perfectly, none are spongie or clicky at all. The screen is bright and vibrant with no noticeable ghosting or tearing as of yet.
Being someone that has pretty much all of the open source handhelds the Zero is at the top of the list with the Pandora being it's only equal in terms of build quality and community support. Hell, even the box it comes in is high quality, very thick sturdy cardboard which really protects the units. I decided to go with the white unit and I'm very happy I did as this thing is sexy as hell! That and my proto unit as well as most of my other handhelds are black.
To everyone still waiting on their SE's, hang in there. Believe me when I say your patience will totally be rewarded as the Zero really is something else! As always much thanks and respect to Justin and the team! The Zero is an excellent handheld and you can tell by just holding and of course playing it.

Hopefully my situation will improve eventually and I'll be able to really rejoin the community as there are some good times coming our way! ;D
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: yoshi41 on June 16, 2013, 09:53:20 am
All the best to your wife and I hope she gets well soon.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: dewc on June 16, 2013, 07:35:37 pm
Sorry guys, this is somewhat overdue. I received my SE last week but my wife's health has been declining so I haven't had much time for gaming, or anything else for that matter.
Anyway, here's some pics of my new SE, which kicks ass BTW!

Family comes first. Wishing your wife the very best from the bottom of my heart. Thank you for this post.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Chiba3010 on June 17, 2013, 04:16:34 am
Orion, many thanks for taking the time to share your impressions during such unfortunate circumstances. Wishing your wife better health and hope better times lie ahead for the both of you!
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: toto on June 17, 2013, 01:39:23 pm
All the best for your wife.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Eyedunno on June 18, 2013, 05:29:56 am
I hate to admit it, but the d-pad on this is sub-Xbox 360 bad. :(

It looked like they got it right with the cross style, but it is ridiculously unresponsive. Even playing RPGs is awkward, and Street Fighter - forget about it. Shoryukens are damn near impossible. :(

The buttons are also not fantastic, though they're better than the d-pad.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: darksavior on June 18, 2013, 05:56:43 am
the dpad will need some user modding to make it useful for fighters..
i tried plastic washers and they do make the dpad responsive, but these are a bit too thick and haven't looked into thinner ones yet. i wasn't careful so i broke the power button on my prototype unit when i was trying to put it back together. not recommended unless you like to void your warranty.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Orion4874 on June 18, 2013, 06:55:13 am
Thanks so much for the sentiments guys, it means a lot!

I'm sorry so many seem to be having these dpad issues and now button issues as well. I'm honestly not having any of those. I played some street fighter myself and it worked ok for me. I always use Guile and I had no problems launching multiple sonic booms. Also tried some platformers, SMB and Castlevania, and all was well.
Both my SE and proto seem to work perfectly. Dunno..... maybe I'm just lucky?
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: SNESFAN on June 18, 2013, 07:10:28 am
if you will ignore the spelling and grammar typos here's my rough draft of a full review. It's a long read but I had a good time writing it, hope you enjoy it.

http://forum.openhandhelds.net/index.php/topic,376.0.html
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Prophet on June 18, 2013, 09:28:29 pm
I hate to admit it, but the d-pad on this is sub-Xbox 360 bad. :(

It looked like they got it right with the cross style, but it is ridiculously unresponsive. Even playing RPGs is awkward, and Street Fighter - forget about it. Shoryukens are damn near impossible. :(

The buttons are also not fantastic, though they're better than the d-pad.

Yikes! That sounds terrible.  :o

Praying these control issues can be worked out before the KS orders ship. If thousands of units go out with poor controls... well, that wouldn't be good.  :-[ I planned on using the Zero as my primary retro/emu device, but if the dpad and/or buttons are less than top notch, that won't work out.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: relay01 on June 19, 2013, 06:11:20 am
Well, I managed to put together an article for the GCW0 attempting to target users wondering whether they should buy a GCW0.

 It's on my website.  (http://www.dustingray.net/news/shouldyoubuyagcw0)

But here's the text.
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     If good things are worth waiting for, then the early Special Edition buyers (who have been waiting over a year now since putting down the cash for a GCW Zero) and the Kickstarter backers (launched back in February) should be expecting something great.  If you're not part of the obscure handheld scene and the Open-Pandora, Dingoo A320, and GP2X all mean nothing to you than the GCW0 should also mean nothing to you.  What makes this one any different and why has it caught the attention of the open pandora and dingoo community?  The most simplistic answer is, it's really neat.

    There have already been several reviews from SE buyers who've so far received their console and I for the most part agree with them.  Rather than just putting out another review, I was inspired to take the time away from my shiny new toy and instead attempt to answer the question I've seen a number of people ask on dingoonity.org, should you buy a GCW0?  As of the time of this writing, regardless of whether or not you think you should buy a GCW0, you can't.  But your prospects are expected to change soon, so why not be decided early and get a taste of the fervent anticipation the Special Edition and Kickstarter buyers have endured for quite some time now.
    I wish the answer was a simple, "Yes" because I do want this project to succeed beyond the first production run.  But after some experience with this neat little doodad, I can't honestly see this device being for everyone.  In short, it's flawed.  All game consoles are flawed in some way, but the GCW0 is a little more so than I would have wished.  This doesn't make the answer as to whether or not it's worth your dollar a definitive "No" either.  None of said flaws are a total deal-breaker for some, but I suspect will be for most.  Your personal decision to seek out acquisition of a GCW0 falls into the "Maybe, If you..." answer category. 

To answer the question for yourselves, in the style of the beat-to-death Jeff Foxworthy comedy bit, "You know you should buy a GCW0, maybe if you..."

If you think Polygons Killed the Pixel Art Star, and next-gen graphics aren't your thing.
    A casual observer may look at the specs for the GCW0 and scoff as the smartphone in their pocket outperforms it in every way. I'd say the aforementioned casual observer needs to be beaten with a reality stick and thrown into a vat of wise-up. This isn't a smartphone we're dealing with, it's a gaming handheld.  Its 320x240 screen is not a weakness, it's a strength.  Compare it to the PSP's 480x272 or the NDS's 256x192 resolution and its stacking up just fine for its intended purpose.  It has the same resolution as the bottom screen on a 3DS but a half inch larger.  Its purpose is to play games, not browse the web while listening to music while texting one person while talking to another while ordering 3 pizzas. 
    And not games that involve flinging a Jedi bird at some Sith pig so you can tweet how much better you are at bird flinging than everyone else.  Instead, games of old or perhaps new games inspired by games of old.  This handheld was crafted for retro gamers with a pixel-per-pixel screen and hardware just powerful enough to get the job done right at a reasonable price.  So yes, if you like old style games, maybe the GCW0 is for you.

If you hacked your PSP or NDS for purposes other than piracy.
    The GCW Zero is a sooped up version of a piracy driven Chinese knock-off device in yuppie's clothing.  Though its guts were inspired by the ill-intent of its predecessor devices, it stands as a U.S. launched device with the warranty support and respect for copyright to prove it.  Sure, you could use the GCW0 for nefarious purposes just like you could on any PC.  Most early adopters were sold on the emulation aspects of the console and most of them own(ed) a Dingoo device or some variant.  The GCW0 however intends to be so much more.  The Blaze GameGadget and NeoGeo X aimed to be handheld devices that provided a legitimate path to emulation.  But steep prices, broken promises, and lousy emulation left many owners of said devices with a bad taste in their mouth not long after purchase.  Rather than provide yet another locked down platform with no use outside of it's shipped form, the GCW0 is what's called an "open-platform".  Meaning no rooting, jail-breaking, mod-chipping, or firmware hacking is required to load stuff onto this gaming handheld.  You are free to decide your own level of legitimacy.  If you're in to homebrew and like emulation, maybe the GCW0 is for you.

If you know what Linux and FTP is, or are willing to find out.
    It's the technological aspects that pose the greatest threat to you, the prospective GCW0 purchaser.  Out of the box, it doesn't do much.  It has a number of free pre-loaded games and demos but very much akin to a computer, needs software to extend it's functionality.  You can't just go to cnet to find a bunch of software that will work for this device.  A temporary repository in the form of a google drive has been setup and the process of adding new software to the gcw0 is as simple as downloading the software to a computer, connecting the gcw0 to the computer, using an ftp client to copy the software to the gcw0 (it doesn't work like a flash drive), and making sure the software is placed in the right spot.  Understanding the linux hierarchical filesystem is helpful for this process, though not necessary if you can follow directions well enough.  Bottom line, if you're not comfortable with this process, you can't get the full experience that the GCW0 provides.  If getting down and dirty with computers don't intimidate you, maybe the GCW0 is for you.

If you can tolerate hardware and software quirks.
    The GCW0 in its current state lacks polish and definition for both hardware and software.  The software on the GCW0 is amateurish and requires time and love from volunteers to start feeling fully functional.  Remember, the GCW0 isn't a canned video-game device with a static firmware.  Its running a real Linux operating system and has all the pros/cons that comes with it.  Comparing the GCW0 to your average consumer level gaming handheld is like apples to oranges.  The hardware problems is where things get sticky... literally.  Numerous people, including myself are experiencing various hardware flaws from sticky d-pads to somewhat stiff and limited range on the analog stick.  The software can evolve over time but you're stuck with the hardware, flaws and all, that comes out of the box.  Warranty support exists through GCW for this device, though we have yet to see an example of how that works.  That said, owners of the GCW0 who are experiencing hardware issues may very well need to modify their consoles in order to get it to "feel" right.  Moreover, though many have stated that the placment of the "select" button is strange but not a functional problem, I have to disagree.  I find it a challenge to hit the bottom action button when rolling from an adjacent action button without inadvertently hitting select.  My hands aren't big, so I'm not sure why I find it such an issues when others have not.  Either way, it's another thing I have to "deal" with and you might too.  If loving something rough around the edges comes easily to you, maybe the GCW0 is for you.

I hope this pseudo review helps you to ultimately decide whether a GCW0 has a place in your (hopefully) near future.  One way or the other, If you've read this far, thanks for giving it a fair shake.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: MacDonals on June 19, 2013, 01:57:42 pm
That is a good, honest review.  As a tech person I'm often asked what I recommend and my first question is always "for who?".
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: dewc on June 21, 2013, 04:20:38 pm
I received my system yesterday, and here are my impressions.
Overall the system feels pretty sturdy and decently well made.

Start, Select button: I'm a little tripped up by the layout and expected them to be switched around. It's just a matter of getting used to.

D-PAD: The D-PAD on my system has a little issue registering down. It responds, but it needs more pressure. It feels different than the rest of the directions. Now I need to look to see how people mod the D-PAD for fighting games  and make it more responsive.
Would custom 3D printer made ones be able to create a good alternative? I don't have access to one, but wondering about this.

L+R triggers: really responsive. I constantly scroll past the menu I want to be in.

Battery: I don't know if it's me, but seems  like the battery charges very fast.

Software: I like that I can FTP into the system and transfer files. Pretty neat trick. I didn't have that much time yet to play with the preloaded games and the additional software. I think wikizero.com is a step in the right direction as well as the youtube videos on setting this up and get going. The first thing I tried is UMG and I really like the retro style graphics. Best part is, I can play this in the dark.
Boot time is incredibly fast.

Question(s): Where's t he best place to look for  documentation of the precompiled software? I mounted the opk files and I wasn't able to find documentation. I thought it would be hidden in some of the OPK files.  A specific example would be where should the bios & rom files be stored? SSH vs telnet. I noticed that I can telnet to this. What does launching "Terminal" do? There appears to be an SSH server running as well. How would I log in via SSH? :) Also, what would be difference in this case?

Edited to include pictures URL http://imgur.com/a/BYIbx/
I included pictures of other devices others may have for a bit of  a size comparison.
I don't know why some are upside down.  Taken with a phone's camera, so it's a grainy.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: zear on June 21, 2013, 11:29:51 pm
The first thing I tried is UMG and I really like the retro style graphics.
Thanks! :)

Question(s): Where's t he best place to look for  documentation of the precompiled software? I mounted the opk files and I wasn't able to find documentation. I thought it would be hidden in some of the OPK files.  A specific example would be where should the bios & rom files be stored?
Right now the only option is to join IRC (http://www.gcw-zero.com/irc) and ask the authors directly. The general "rule" is the extra files go to $HOME/.appname ($HOME, as visible from FTP, would be /data/local/home/, please also note that you might need to enable an option to see hidden files in your FTP client to see content inside that directory).
We are currently working on a way to show a dialog box on the first application run that lets you point to the location of the extra files. We are also working on an official repository for the opks. That would be a place where the authors could include a description with any extra installation steps, if required.

What does launching "Terminal" do?
It makes the framebuffer available for launching SDL applications from telnet/ssh. Purely a feature for developers that want to test their software.
There appears to be an SSH server running as well. How would I log in via SSH? :) Also, what would be difference in this case?
You need to exchange your ssh key first. I can't help you with details, but people on IRC will be able to. The difference between SSH and Telnet is that the former is an encrypted connection and also allows for file transfers over scp. The latter is a plaintext connection that anybody from the LAN can evasdrop on. I assume telnet will be removed from the system image as soon as the SSH connection set-up is made more user friendly.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: yoshi41 on June 28, 2013, 07:07:01 pm
The general "rule" is the extra files go to $HOME/.appname ($HOME, as visible from FTP, would be /data/local/home/, please also note that you might need to enable an option to see hidden files in your FTP client to see content inside that directory).

I'm unable to list hidden (dot) directories in /data/local/home with any Windows FTP client I tried so far (FileZilla, WinSCP, FTP Rush). Options to list hidden directories/files have been enabled.

However, I can change to those directories when entering the path manually, eg. /data/local/home/.picodrive.

Any idea what I'm doing wrong?
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: BAFelton on June 28, 2013, 08:13:31 pm
I had the same problem. I use dingux commander to reach some paths.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: zear on June 28, 2013, 09:16:00 pm
The general "rule" is the extra files go to $HOME/.appname ($HOME, as visible from FTP, would be /data/local/home/, please also note that you might need to enable an option to see hidden files in your FTP client to see content inside that directory).

I'm unable to list hidden (dot) directories in /data/local/home with any Windows FTP client I tried so far (FileZilla, WinSCP, FTP Rush). Options to list hidden directories/files have been enabled.

However, I can change to those directories when entering the path manually, eg. /data/local/home/.picodrive.

Any idea what I'm doing wrong?
I assumed they must be hidden on the client side, but everything hints it's a server side problem. Perhaps there is an option in inetd config to alter this behaviour.

Edit: It's a bug in busybox. Already reported.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Mmm on July 03, 2013, 10:18:58 am
Just received my Gcw....

The d-pad down button stays down.... I am sure that i read something about this....

Can someone tell me where i can find a solution for this?
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: hi-ban on July 03, 2013, 10:21:51 am
Just received my Gcw....

The d-pad down button stays down.... I am sure that i read something about this....

Can someone tell me where i can find a solution for this?

http://boards.dingoonity.org/gcw-general/d-pad-and-buttons-sticking-issue/
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Mmm on July 03, 2013, 11:39:16 am
Thanks....i will try the grease solution.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Wortsenawl on July 13, 2013, 01:03:15 am
I was a bit miffed at the start of the project and was 100% behind Yertle and his vociferous questioning. I still support what Yertle was trying to achieve earlier in the year, but... and it is a big but.

I have had the device a matter of 3 weeks now, but after receiving it, I pretty much resigned it to the shelf for the first 2 weeks as I was quite busy and did not want it to become a distraction. I did however open the box, take a good look inside, boot up the device and take a peek at the anticipated delights it held. Boy was I left wanting.

The d-pad... well, like everybody else experienced, it was problematic. My d-pad would not go left (at least not without a great deal of force).

The instructions... or manual, or whatever. Well, as we all know it simply does not exist.

The buttons [X, T, A, B] are way too small and, for me at least, too close together. I struggle with these.

The analogue stick? Most of what I use does not use this and mine grinds something chronic when circling clockwise (bottom to up).

So after a brief use of the device it went back in the box while I decided what to do with it. I read of other peoples experiences [of the d-pad] and that lead me to move d-pad in a circular motion while watching TV, etc. without actually turning on the device in the hope that it might fix it.

I then turned it back on and decided to see what I could do with my beloved Zero. I happily found out that my sporadic playing with the d-pad had eradicated the sticky issue and it seemed to work fine now.

Next I loaded some games and emulators. I had all sorts of issues here. Now, I am not used to linux, I am not used to using FTP client software, but I am used to emulation, having been involved to some extent or another over 10 years and having created an Amiga workbench on my laptop which is fully functional and was pretty complicated (for me at least). What am I saying here? That I am not an expert by an means, but also that I am not entirely new to this.

My first thought was, I feel for the Kickstarter backers.

I should explain too that I found this device by pure luck, while looking at competitor devices. I then found this forum by accident, which was lucky. So, I understand now that the initial target audience was people who know and understand a device like this, but it is now on kickstarter and clearly the target audience has grown beyond that.

So how do I now feel? Well, I am flabbergasted that there is nothing in the box in the way of help. Where to go for advice? Simple assistance like adjusting screen contrast, adjusting volume, etc. No help on how to install emulation software (afterall, isn't this one of the key selling points?). Nothing to explain how to move files between the zero and your laptop. Nothing that states you need FTP software and suggestions of what to use, simple advice on and how to use it, what the host details are (this is kinda key). Nothing on the software/app repository.

Really, this is just not good enough. I don't mean that as a damning indictment of anything, but simply that it is really important that it is addressed.

I should also point out that I am not in any way pointing fingers at the development team. Technical documentation should not need to be their domain, but it certainly should be the responsibility of the company behind the creation of the Zero.

I have tried using IRC for assistance, but found that to be a fruitless exercise which I assume to be due to difference in timezones. I accept that this is not a fault of the device, but I went down this path as there was not help suggested.

So I started out with what I know and installing a couple of simple apps/emulators. SNES emulation, Xrick and a spectrum emulator. Xrick was simple and worked straight away (once I realised I needed to use an FTP client). SNES again seemed straightforward enough and so did the Spectrum emulator. I did however get frustrated at the fact I could not do something as simple as point the emulator at a default directory. This is obviously something simple and easyto those experienced with a device like this, but understanding the way this device (and other similar devices) work if you have no experience of them is not intuitive and would be easily overcome with simple instructions.

I have also now installed Picodrive, OpenBor, FCeux, amongst other things. I have struggled here and there, with PICOdrive, something as simple as knowing in this particular emulator that roms have to be unzipped, would be really, really useful. Despite owning a Sega MegaDrive I have never bother with Sega emulation. So this was a revelation to me, as all the other emulators I had used read zip drive. Again, this is not a direct fault of the device, but at the same time could easily be noted in the repository which is bare of useful information. For example, as a new person to emulation, looking at the GCW repository, how would I know that FCeux is used for NES emulation (and again that ROMs need unzipping), or in the case of Picodrive that bios files are needed for SEGACD emulation (or indeed where the bios files go).

Yes, one can find this information out with a little internet searching, but this information should be readily available.

I must say, Ruffnuts has been a great help while I have been sorting out my device. However, it seems almost that there is an expectation of a minimum level of experience.

So I am not 100% on the layout and size of the button, but it is a slick and solid device. I have overcome the button stickiness, but a little grinding has appeared, but again I expect this to lesson with useage. The emulators I have used work really well, the sound for the most part seems great and the emulation software runs at a decent speed. There are some issues with specific roms (Elite on the NES), some .paks for OpenBor, but all in all, it all works really well.

So, what do I think overall? It is a bloody awesome device, despite some of the trials I have been through. There are people selling theirs on e-bay... I cannot even consider that knowing that MAME, AMIGA and C64 emulation is round the corner.

Justin and the development team, thank you. It was worth the wait.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: zear on July 13, 2013, 01:44:19 am
We couldn't put any manual booklets into the box since the device is in-developement and anything can change on a daily basis, from button mapping to an entirely different menu system.

We will set up a wiki once we finish our struggle with the company's servers. There you will be able to find most of the help regarding the basic use of the device, but also (probably) documentation about particular pieces of software.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Wortsenawl on July 13, 2013, 02:10:35 am
I totally understand, but I can only think if I am struggling (and I am a curious person and quite tenacious so will keep trying) what will the average KS backer feel like?

I didn't post this sooner as I was aware of the fact it might appear negative. I don't mean it to be. I am overjoyed by this little piece of tech. but I am not looking at it through rose tinted specs,

I think the whole team behind this have done an epic job, so please don't misunderstand me.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: alyinsanfran on July 13, 2013, 03:36:48 am
I'm an early KS, long time emulation fan (back to 1997 or so), own a GP32, GP2X and Caanoo, but will admit to feeling a little intimidated with the thought (as I understand it) of not being able to drag and drop.

I'm taking it as an opportunity to learn something, but I do hope others will feel the same.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: hi-ban on July 13, 2013, 10:08:22 am
well, you can think of the FTP program as if it was your Itunes or PCSuite app.
Anyway, i believe that, depending of the FTP app you use, you can still drag and drop files...
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: pcercuei on July 13, 2013, 08:48:16 pm
Picodrive opens ZIP files just fine here. And GMenu2X, the main interface, saves the ROM paths automatically.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Wortsenawl on July 14, 2013, 12:20:27 am
I don't know what to tell you pcercuei... I have to have the files unzipped, otherwise they are not recognised. And each time I open up PocketSnes it has to be pointed to the ROM directory.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Yertle on July 14, 2013, 02:04:19 am
I would agree that it is drag and drop in Filezilla, the FTP program I've used. You do have to connect with the GCW Zero by doing something similar to "logging in", but from there it's ALL drag and drop.

On my GCW Zero, I have to direct the oh boy emulator to the correct directory every time but all other emulators go to right where they need to.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: pcercuei on July 14, 2013, 02:12:07 am
Well this is specific to PocketSNES then. The emus/apps that use GMenu2X's built-in file selector have the default path saved.
About Picodrive, the version in the google drive folder does support ZIP. It was updated the 15th of June, make sure it's up to date.

Now about FTP, I totally agree that it's not that user-friendly; but we cannot use mass storage, at least for the internal memory (we could, and probably will for the external SD card). We are working on alternative, easier solutions for the internal memory.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Yertle on July 14, 2013, 02:18:58 am
Well this is specific to PocketSNES then. The emus/apps that use GMenu2X's built-in file selector have the default path saved.
About Picodrive, the version in the google drive folder does support ZIP. It was updated the 15th of June, make sure it's up to date.

Now about FTP, I totally agree that it's not that user-friendly; but we cannot use mass storage, at least for the internal memory (we could, and probably will for the external SD card). We are working on alternative, easier solutions for the internal memory.

I'm sorry. I was wrong. The only emulator that doesn't direct me to the correct directory is Oh Boy. I'm going to edit my last message... I've been playing a lot of Game Boy in the last few days and I thought the others did the same thing. It's a great feature to have.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: alyinsanfran on July 14, 2013, 03:29:26 am
we cannot use mass storage, at least for the internal memory (we could, and probably will for the external SD card). We are working on alternative, easier solutions for the internal memory.

That's good to hear pcercuei. Drag and drop to a card reader would be perfect.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: RodrigoCard on July 14, 2013, 05:10:22 am
Well this is specific to PocketSNES then. The emus/apps that use GMenu2X's built-in file selector have the default path saved.
About Picodrive, the version in the google drive folder does support ZIP. It was updated the 15th of June, make sure it's up to date.

Now about FTP, I totally agree that it's not that user-friendly; but we cannot use mass storage, at least for the internal memory (we could, and probably will for the external SD card). We are working on alternative, easier solutions for the internal memory.

How About MTP? ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Transfer_Protocol , http://libmtp.sourceforge.net/)
Android uses it instead of Mass Storage since version 4.0, I think.

The only problem from some consumer's point of view is Mac OS X Support, but there are third (http://www.android.com/filetransfer/) party (http://www.wentnet.com/projects/xnjb/) solutions, aparently.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: pcercuei on July 14, 2013, 06:19:53 am
MTP is one of the solutions we think about, yes.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Skyline969 on July 14, 2013, 06:51:40 am
If MTP is implemented for the external storage, will FTP still be available for the full system (including external access)?
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Wortsenawl on July 15, 2013, 11:22:13 pm
About Picodrive, the version in the google drive folder does support ZIP. It was updated the 15th of June, make sure it's up to date.

I downloaded it last week from the google folder linked on this site. Maybe it is because I have not set it up correctly, but I can live with the manner in which I have to open roms, so no big deal and I am not going to lose sleep over it.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: fosamax on July 24, 2013, 04:02:59 pm
Here's an hypothetic GCW zero SNES Edition !

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/69681052/GCW.jpg)

Do you like it ?
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: boelze on July 24, 2013, 06:40:05 pm
Here's an hypothetic GCW zero SNES Edition !

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/69681052/GCW.jpg)

Do you like it ?

Looks great imo!
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Looper on July 24, 2013, 07:03:59 pm
I keep thinking we are about to get another GCW video! ;) Come on guys and gals where is all the great vids the SE owners promised?
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Skyline969 on July 24, 2013, 07:56:12 pm
I keep thinking we are about to get another GCW video! ;) Come on guys and gals where is all the great vids the SE owners promised?

I've been experimenting with filming, not entirely sure how to keep my camera (a Nexus 4) steady while still having two hands free to shoot the video, but I'm working on it.

EDIT: No, I don't own a tripod. If I did, this would be simple.

EDIT(2): Where there's a will, there's a way. Here's my stab at a GCW Zero unboxing/review. It's still uploading, so give it a few (5-6) hours.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PPFowxJrcE
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: EIREXE on August 02, 2013, 11:53:18 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mw7gZoD_L-U
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Deagle275 on August 03, 2013, 12:15:33 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mw7gZoD_L-U
It's been some time since the last vid, did anything happen?
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: EIREXE on August 03, 2013, 12:17:12 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mw7gZoD_L-U
It's been some time since the last vid, did anything happen?

No opengl drivers, so there wasn't a lot I could show, this is the max I can show without opengl.

Also moved to a new house for vacation and got addicted to mlp and that kind of stuff that made me forget about this :V
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: dmitry_smagin on August 09, 2013, 02:01:00 pm
Was it posted?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEyUAvRkUrM
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: rojapa on August 12, 2013, 08:01:19 pm
Since I've had my kick starter unit for a full week I thought I'd share my experience with it thus far. Overall I'd just like to say that it is a really great device with a lot of potential, but there are some things that need to be sorted out.

Hardware: When I first unboxed my zero I was pretty impressed with the console itself. Being an owner of an A320 for a bunch of years I feel the zero is a much better size and the screen is just perfect. That said, I was quickly disappointed when I actually turned it on and started using it only to find my d-pad would get stuck on the up direction as well as my A and B buttons getting stuck occasionally. I thought this problem would not present itself considering the extra step Justin took sending the units back to the factory for the smaller d-pad. I contacted Justin via ks and he was quick to reply. His response was "It should break in and the silicon lube can assist with that look up relay01 YouTube video. It's weird how it does not present itself when we test them here and only about 1 and 20 have it with KS after receiving it." I've known about the silicon lube fix since it was first posted on here, but hoped the issue would resolve itself without having to go that route. 7 days later with about 1-2 hours of use each day and sadly the problem still exists. I wouldn't say it makes the system unusable, but it definitely is a disappointment. To Justin's credit he did send me another message on Saturday asking if the problem still existed. Not sure if I will be able to get a replacement unit or if i'm stuck trying to solve this problem on my own, but for now I guess it it what it is. It's too bad such a simple problem wasn't caught during the QC process because other than that the unit is extremely responsive and a pleasure to use.

Software: Getting software installed via a microsd card is very simple, but I've been having problems getting into the internal storage via ftp. I am not very familiar with ftp and I wish there was a more user-friendly way to access the internal storage. I've seen qbert's video on youtube, read up in various threads on here, but still can't seem to figure out what I'm doing wrong. Zear has been very helpful along the way and I'd like to thank him for that. First thing I did with my zero was play the Unnamed Monkey Game demo and it got me really excited for the full release and future indie releases. Next thing I did was install various emulators and tested them out. While most could use more features and some fine tuning, I was amazed at how well they ran (especially picodrive and the latest pocketsnes). I know most of these emulators are still works in progress so to see where they're at at such an early stage of the zero's life I can only imagine how great things will run in even as short as a couple months from now. The devs should be proud of all the work they've put into this system because it definitely shows.

Conclusion: While my time spent with my zero hasn't been extensive (roughly 16-18 hours) I am very impressed by it thus far. My only real complaint is the issue I've had with the buttons as well as the fact there isn't a proper wiki/tutorial for anything yet. I know that the latter is being worked on as I type this so it's not a big deal for me, but I could see other ks owners lost (even though this message board has been referenced in the user comments several times). I am really happy with my unit and hope that my hardware issue will be resolved at some point. Congratulations to the Justin and all the developers on delivering a solid product, I look forward to seeing what comes from the GCW team in the future.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Atlantis_Risen on August 12, 2013, 08:11:36 pm
Since I've had my kick starter unit for a full week I thought I'd share my experience with it thus far. Overall I'd just like to say that it is a really great device with a lot of potential, but there are some things that need to be sorted out.

Hardware: When I first unboxed my zero I was pretty impressed with the console itself. Being an owner of an A320 for a bunch of years I feel the zero is a much better size and the screen is just perfect. That said, I was quickly disappointed when I actually turned it on and started using it only to find my d-pad would get stuck on the up direction as well as my A and B buttons getting stuck occasionally. I thought this problem would not present itself considering the extra step Justin took sending the units back to the factory for the smaller d-pad. I contacted Justin via ks and he was quick to reply. His response was "It should break in and the silicon lube can assist with that look up relay01 YouTube video. It's weird how it does not present itself when we test them here and only about 1 and 20 have it with KS after receiving it." I've known about the silicon lube fix since it was first posted on here, but hoped the issue would resolve itself without having to go that route. 7 days later with about 1-2 hours of use each day and sadly the problem still exists. I wouldn't say it makes the system unusable, but it definitely is a disappointment. To Justin's credit he did send me another message on Saturday asking if the problem still existed. Not sure if I will be able to get a replacement unit or if i'm stuck trying to solve this problem on my own, but for now I guess it it what it is. It's too bad such a simple problem wasn't caught during the QC process because other than that the unit is extremely responsive and a pleasure to use.

Software: Getting software installed via a microsd card is very simple, but I've been having problems getting into the internal storage via ftp. I am not very familiar with ftp and I wish there was a more user-friendly way to access the internal storage. I've seen qbert's video on youtube, read up in various threads on here, but still can't seem to figure out what I'm doing wrong. Zear has been very helpful along the way and I'd like to thank him for that. First thing I did with my zero was play the Unnamed Monkey Game demo and it got me really excited for the full release and future indie releases. Next thing I did was install various emulators and tested them out. While most could use more features and some fine tuning, I was amazed at how well they ran (especially picodrive and the latest pocketsnes). I know most of these emulators are still works in progress so to see where they're at at such an early stage of the zero's life I can only imagine how great things will run in even as short as a couple months from now. The devs should be proud of all the work they've put into this system because it definitely shows.

Conclusion: While my time spent with my zero hasn't been extensive (roughly 16-18 hours) I am very impressed by it thus far. My only real complaint is the issue I've had with the buttons as well as the fact there isn't a proper wiki/tutorial for anything yet. I know that the latter is being worked on as I type this so it's not a big deal for me, but I could see other ks owners lost (even though this message board has been referenced in the user comments several times). I am really happy with my unit and hope that my hardware issue will be resolved at some point. Congratulations to the Justin and all the developers on delivering a solid product, I look forward to seeing what comes from the GCW team in the future.

I thought the KS units were supposed to have the new smaller d-pad and buttons so this wouldn't happen.  ???
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: rojapa on August 12, 2013, 08:18:29 pm


I thought the KS units were supposed to have the new smaller d-pad and buttons so this wouldn't happen.  ???
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I don't know about the buttons for sure, but the d-pads are new which is why I was disappointed to receive a unit with this issue. Justin has been quick to respond to my messages on ks, but I'd really hate to have to send back my unit after waiting so long to get it. I realize the silicon lube fix would probably work, but I also don't want a temporary solution. I will give it another week and if it hasn't resolved itself through use I will be requesting a new unit.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: segakiki on August 12, 2013, 10:46:59 pm
I've had my SE Zero for about a week and I absolutely love it!
Having owned a A320, GP2X, Cannoo, Wiz and Pandora I must say I am very impressed with the zero.
I've not had any dpad issues apart from the sticking of the A/B buttons which I quickly fixed with a spot of double TT lubricant on a cloth as I had no silicon to hand. (no issues since!) buttons all work as they should.
The screen is just the right size for a handheld and also has great colour/brightness, with no blurring.
All the emus I've tried  are very good for early builds so far in the zeros life.
The battery life is also very impressive, ive been using it on full brightness for around 5/6 hours with various apps before charging.
I am looking forward to what the future holds for this amazing little device!
If I did have one gripe about the zero it would be that I've got a spec of dust under the screen bezel, and I don't want to risk removing it to remove the dust!
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: howie_k on August 14, 2013, 07:52:54 pm
Not sure if you have seen this review by the 'geekswithwives' folks;

http://geekswithwives.com/gcw-zero-review/
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: JoeGWW on August 14, 2013, 10:03:51 pm
Thanks for posting my review! I also showed/discussed the Zero on our podcast: http://youtu.be/58q7lCcSx1U
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: retroman on August 15, 2013, 05:25:46 am
Joe, thanks for your support and review of GCW Zero on Geeks With Wives.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: retsaw on August 16, 2013, 08:55:57 pm
Thanks for posting my review! I also showed/discussed the Zero on our podcast: http://youtu.be/58q7lCcSx1U
For those that don't want to watch the whole thing, the GCW Zero segment starts at 28:22.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: TimeDevouncer on September 03, 2013, 05:34:13 pm
Thanks to qbertaddict:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZSydFLCwlI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FZRM2J8Y48
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CT_eSsLP8tc
 :)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: ruffnutts on September 10, 2013, 01:45:23 pm
Quake 3 Arena....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkpowIf5edU


Great news 8)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: jutley on October 17, 2013, 10:57:59 am
That is awesome love it.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Juan on October 29, 2013, 09:06:43 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEF8xwSV_R8
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: alexei_gp on October 30, 2013, 01:38:14 am
Lol You post my video xDDDDD
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Juan on October 30, 2013, 11:00:34 pm
I think it's the first actual on screen test of the ks dpad, guess it would interest us ks backers.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: MightyJAK on October 31, 2013, 05:25:14 am
I'm offering to make videos showing how the Zero compares to the original systems it emulates. See the list of games available and make your request in that thread (http://boards.dingoonity.org/gcw-general/how-does-gcw-zero's-emulation-compare-to-the-original-systems/), and I'll post the video in this thread.  8)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: MightyJAK on November 13, 2013, 01:41:26 am
Sonic the Hedgehog 2, Nomad vs Dingoo vs GCW Zero:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IizSi4ekvM

Next up: Ecco the Dolphin, Sega CD-X vs GCW Zero.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: MightyJAK on November 19, 2013, 05:06:17 pm
As requested by Ritz, Sega CD-X vs GCW Zero on Ecco the Dolphin.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wC42Shn-qZE
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: blackbolt91 on February 04, 2014, 06:36:25 am
Hi i am sorry I am new to this but is there a tutorial on how to load roms with mame4all. I have been trying to desperately i made a folder for the files and they still dont run or not recognized. any help please, i would be so grateful!
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Gab1975 on February 04, 2014, 06:40:40 am
Hi i am sorry I am new to this but is there a tutorial on how to load roms with mame4all. I have been trying to desperately i made a folder for the files and they still dont run or not recognized. any help please, i would be so grateful!

Did you use ROMs from the MAME 0.37b5 Romset?
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: MightyJAK on March 21, 2014, 02:16:30 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTHE4vAOLbo

I call this a "preview" as I didn't have the tripod with me so I couldn't do hands-on gameplay, just the opening demonstrations. I plan on doing a complete video in a more controlled environment once I've got the Retron5 (due out in April last I heard). Once again I had all performance settings at max and frameskip 0. The Zero seemed to keep up with the SNES well, until it lagged behind at the first gameplay demo. Because I was panning the camera back and forth between the 2 screens, I can't pinpoint where the Zero fell behind. But it seems like the Zero only lagged during the scene transition and got back to speed once the gameplay started. I'll be sure to investigate this issue more when I do the follow-up video.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: howie_k on April 03, 2014, 08:42:12 pm
Review of the Zero at the GBATEMP site : http://gbatemp.net/review/gcw-zero.122/
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Nordskii on April 11, 2014, 07:58:47 pm
http://youtu.be/LEAxJeLvbKk


Originally made this just to show a few friends, decided I might as well post it here too :)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Kouen Hasuki on July 08, 2014, 08:34:49 pm
I have just released mine and my co-hosts unboxing video of the GCW Zero!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECcFzDsak4M

We are going to release a proper review soon for the device but also will be wanting to do some reviews of projects on the zero that doesn't have to just be emulation! so If you would want your project looked at please let me know!

Also Dingoonity gets a positive mention in the video and a link! Hope you all don't mind!
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Kouen Hasuki on July 30, 2014, 09:57:24 am
It's finally here!

After re-shooting some footage, some technical issues and a DHL issue on Lash's end we got it done!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLNNxLN1_lg

I Hope you all enjoy! (Can't write a good description post right now still working on my first coffee!)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: DeusDormouse on July 30, 2014, 06:12:05 pm
Yay! They mentioned my release... list?
 :P
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Kouen Hasuki on July 31, 2014, 06:12:48 pm
Posted the text version too now:

http://gbatemp.net/review/gcw-zero.171/
http://www.epforums.org/showthread.php?93189-GCW-Zero-Review!
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: ruffnutts on August 07, 2014, 11:10:38 pm
Cool video thanks makes me want to pick up my zero's again  ;D
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: TimeDevouncer on August 25, 2014, 09:13:53 pm
StarFox "overclocked" ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8HXE6iwPCUk
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: thefifthgiant on December 20, 2014, 02:11:49 pm
Late to the party, but here is my review anyways!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pFFWvyLiRc
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: zear on December 20, 2014, 05:20:53 pm
@thefifthgiant
Excellent review! Thanks for mentioning the scene efforts :)
And I really enjoyed that someone finally showed something else than emulators ;)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: thefifthgiant on December 20, 2014, 05:47:13 pm
@thefifthgiant
Excellent review! Thanks for mentioning the scene efforts :)
And I really enjoyed that someone finally showed something else than emulators ;)

Hey Thanks!

I really think the community is really one of the best parts of the zero. In fact, I think anyone who gets one isn't getting the complete experience until they check out the scene ;)

I love the emulators on the zero, but I spend most of my time playing the native games, and I think that is the most interesting portion of the system, as I said, I've played things I never would have tried thanks to the zero. :)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Kouen Hasuki on January 01, 2015, 10:46:20 am
@thefifthgiant Cool video mate :D

@zear wouldn't that be the second person then mate :P
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: zear on January 01, 2015, 11:19:02 am
@zear wouldn't that be the second person then mate :P
Oh of course, I was just making a statement on the general situation in the review videos ;)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Kouen Hasuki on January 01, 2015, 11:45:13 am
@zear wouldn't that be the second person then mate :P
Oh of course, I was just making a statement on the general situation in the review videos ;)

Oh than got that covered too in the hardware review I did in July, 1 page back :P

We do need more review vids of the hardware highlighting the games though :D
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: wingedmerchantgaming on February 08, 2015, 03:58:46 pm
Hi guys, just got mine from Justin. Took a while to get to the UK. Here's my review!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWlPOqOgs8s
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: zear on February 08, 2015, 06:03:31 pm
Hi guys, just got mine from Justin. Took a while to get to the UK. Here's my review!
That's a really nice review, thanks!
Do you maybe plan to make a follow up video showing some software in action?
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: wingedmerchantgaming on February 08, 2015, 07:14:04 pm
Hi there, yes I certainly plan on following it up, however, I don't wish to show the GCW as a glorified emulation system. I am waiting for more homebrew games and software specifically designed for the Zero before I follow it up as I believe that it is a stellar device with so much potential and capability. I can't wait for all the features to be implemented!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: zear on February 08, 2015, 07:16:17 pm
I am waiting for more homebrew games and software specifically designed for the Zero before I follow it up as I believe that it is a stellar device with so much potential and capability.
There's 45 native games in the repository at the moment and a couple more awaiting moderation. How many more do you need before it's enough for a video? ;)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: wingedmerchantgaming on February 08, 2015, 07:55:35 pm
I know that, I mean something that really pushes the hardware beyond what Neverball does. Don't get me wrong, I love what progress has been made already and I am going to make a video on that very soon (after I have finished my video for Activision, so probably tomorrow night). I just wish I could show off the rumble feature, hdmi, mic and all of the other features. Also hoping that someday we may see an app store for the GCW!
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Aeter on February 09, 2015, 01:50:57 am
I know that, I mean something that really pushes the hardware beyond what Neverball does. Don't get me wrong, I love what progress has been made already and I am going to make a video on that very soon (after I have finished my video for Activision, so probably tomorrow night). I just wish I could show off the rumble feature, hdmi, mic and all of the other features. Also hoping that someday we may see an app store for the GCW!
Well there is Ziz's OPK Manager, which is basically an app store of sorts.
You can access the full repo and Ziz's repo with it and download straight to your device.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: hi-ban on March 10, 2015, 08:52:00 pm
i just found this video about the GCW Zero: http://kdvr.com/2015/03/06/tech-review-open-source-gaming-in-your-pocket-gcw-zero-gcwzero-open-source-gaming-console/
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: dreamesper on March 10, 2015, 11:03:06 pm
Wow, nice article & video from FoxNews you caught there Hi-Ban... unbelievable how much attention this unit is beginning to generate.

 ;D
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Xaijiqq on March 11, 2015, 12:47:59 am
my question is what was barwick smoking because i want some of that
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Juan on March 14, 2015, 07:53:55 pm
Quick screen comparison amongst my handhelds
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Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Pardue on April 10, 2015, 05:22:03 pm
Metal Jesus Rocks showed off his Zero:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOonDY8vCJU

Go to 3 minutes in.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: S1D3BURN on May 03, 2015, 10:36:35 am
If anyone's still on the fence, I wrote a review of the Zero on my blog. Includes a preamble on the other options I tested/considered before settling on the Zero.

http://thewinterofben.blogspot.co.uk/2015/04/my-emulation-odyssey-and-gcw-zero-review_37.html
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Atlantis_Risen on May 11, 2015, 02:10:15 pm
If anyone's still on the fence, I wrote a review of the Zero on my blog. Includes a preamble on the other options I tested/considered before settling on the Zero.

http://thewinterofben.blogspot.co.uk/2015/04/my-emulation-odyssey-and-gcw-zero-review_37.html

I agree with pretty much everything you said in your blog. 
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: dreamesper on June 24, 2015, 12:53:21 am
Hey everyone! Here is my review of the GCW ZERO over at my new website:

http://www.dreamesper.com/gcw-zero-review/

Let me know what you think! Thanks.

 :o
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: David Knight on June 24, 2015, 12:59:34 am
Let me know what you think! Thanks.

Concise review, but...
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Large screen
Nope, I wouldn't call the gcw's screen large. It is however the perfect aspect ratio and resolution for retro gaming.
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Plays practically every emulated console until the 16-bit era.
And quite a lot of computers too. I'm working on adding to the list ;)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: wingedmerchantgaming on November 25, 2015, 04:56:35 pm
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Enjoy!
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Quickman on April 02, 2016, 07:37:45 pm
@wingedmerchantgaming  hey, just now seeing this video! Really great stuff, thanks for the posts! Every video is much appreciated!
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: wingedmerchantgaming on April 02, 2016, 09:58:16 pm
Here is another I did yesterday :)

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Enjoy!
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Quickman on April 02, 2016, 11:56:04 pm
 Fantastic!  PSX seems pretty fluid with its speed! Not bad at all! Too bad on the sound glitches. But thanks for the informative an awesome videos!  Very cool to see mega Man X for seemingly work that well along with the rest!
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: wingedmerchantgaming on June 01, 2016, 05:38:47 pm
Here is an updated video for the new GCW Zero PSX emulator. Having some issues!


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Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: wingedmerchantgaming on June 02, 2016, 11:00:21 pm
Here is another updated video on the PCSX4ALL emulator!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMMJnjaRSSo
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: davidgilmour on September 24, 2016, 12:27:57 am
I own a GCW since this week, bought it in mint condition for 115 euros shipped from abroad.
Here are my impressions.

The good
The size is excellent, this is a handheld that you can take with you: not as small as the Wiz/GBA micro, not as big as the GPD XD.
The handheld is very light.
The 3,5 inch screen is a great 4:3 size screen.
It is awesome for Genesis, Snes and PSX emulation. Also for Neogeo and GBA.

The not-so-good
The d pad sucks.
The handheld feels a bit cheap because it is so light.
The PC engine emulator has no vsync, so that makes it worthless.
FBA: Hmmm. Neogeo, cps1 and cps2 are great on FBA. But why won't regular games like Shinobi, Tetris (no sound), Raiden DX and all those Irem M72 games play on it with full speed?
Mame: luckily this plays Shinobi, Rolling Thunder, Tetris and more but no Irem M72 games.

I am 75% satisfied with it.
The things I would change is:
Better dpad, better buttons, better pc engine emu and better arcade / mame enulation.
The things I like: really great snes and genesis emu! Better than those I have on my psp and gpd xd!

Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Surkow on September 24, 2016, 12:30:42 am
@davidgilmour - You might be interested in a 3D printed (http://www.gcw-zero.com/news.php?id=16) Dpad.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: davidgilmour on September 24, 2016, 12:36:41 am
@davidgilmour - You might be interested in a 3D printed (http://www.gcw-zero.com/news.php?id=16) Dpad.
Thanks, yes I have seen them. Just a little too scared to open my gcw zero to exchange them, does not seem like an easy job ( even though I am quite technical, I made a verticade arcade cabinet but this seems too tight ).
Hopefully the mame emulation will get better, it is a 1000 Mhz processor we have to run those 12 mhz irem games. I think it might be possible  ;)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: van denhawk on September 24, 2016, 08:28:22 am
@davidgilmour - You might be interested in a 3D printed (http://www.gcw-zero.com/news.php?id=16) Dpad.
Thanks, yes I have seen them. Just a little too scared to open my gcw zero to exchange them, does not seem like an easy job ( even though I am quite technical, I made a verticade arcade cabinet but this seems too tight ).
Hopefully the mame emulation will get better, it is a 1000 Mhz processor we have to run those 12 mhz irem games. I think it might be possible  ;)

Slaanesh maintains and updates gcw zero mame. It might be worth contacting him about the irem arcade games
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: davidgilmour on October 02, 2016, 09:07:42 am
I have found some new emulators so this is my new revisited review!
(Thanks for the tip about irem games @van denhawk )

The not-so-good
The d pad is not so good: I don't get a good response.
The speakers are not so good: why didn't Justin spend $2 extra on better one?
The handheld feels a bit cheap because it is so light or is it the cheap plastic?

The good and excellent
The handheld is very light.
The size is excellent, this is a handheld that you can take with you in your jacketpocket!
The 3,5 inch screen is a great 4:3 size screen.
It is awesome for Genesis, Snes, PC Engine and PSX emulation. Also for Neogeo and GBA. And MAME!
Some of my favourite games play on mame now that did not work on the slower handhelds like PSP or Dingoo a320.
The 1ghz processor is doing a fine job emulating all those 8-12 mhz 16bit and some 25mhz 32bit arcade games!

I am 90% satisfied with it. Mostly because of the size and emulation quality!  ;D ;D ;D
The things I would change in a GCW2 version is
Better dpad, better buttons, better speakers, updated screen (ips) and processor (2ghz)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Ryvan on October 03, 2016, 07:20:49 am
I agree, the stock d-pad is kind of unpleasant (I've not looked into grease or replacement plastic piece yet). It sticks and squeaks more than such things ought to. The speakers really aren't bad though, they're probably a bit mediocre even for mobile devices but they work well enough. On the whole the unit does feel a bit less quality then one might expect for the price. I'm not certain on plastic quality, but it does feel a little bit light.

I strongly doubt there will ever be another GCW2, but I'd be in favor of those improvements with the caveat that I don't think a faster processor is really necessary.
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: gameblabla on October 03, 2016, 09:12:58 am
I agree with davidgilmour : the build quality isn't that great.
In fact, it feels very cheap. (i still have my analog stick stuck)
I would have been very mad if i actually bought it. (But yoshi was kind enough to send me one for free so thx)

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It is awesome for Genesis, Snes, PC Engine and PSX emulation. Also for Neogeo and GBA. And MAME!
Some of my favourite games play on mame now that did not work on the slower handhelds like PSP or Dingoo a320.
The 1ghz processor is doing a fine job emulating all those 8-12 mhz 16bit and some 25mhz 32bit arcade games!
Yes, it is a pretty cool device as far emulators go.
That being said, i invite you to give my Wonderswan emulator (http://boards.dingoonity.org/gcw-releases/gameblabla's-oswan/msg152045/#msg152045) a try, if you haven't already.
Check out Mupen64Plus by Nebuleon too.

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I am 90% satisfied with it. Mostly because of the size and emulation quality!  ;D ;D ;D
The things I would change in a GCW2 version is
Better dpad, better buttons, better speakers, updated screen (ips) and processor (2ghz)
I would personally be interested if Justin decides to work on a sucessor because the GCW0 really wasn't built in mind for Detailed 3D Games and high-end emulators...
(2 Ghz would be too weak btw, it needs to be clocked at 3Ghz or have 2 cores clocked at 2Ghz for decent performance)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Swarmadd on October 04, 2016, 07:55:05 am
Quote from: gameblabla
(i still have my analog stick stuck)
The springs are stuck, or it's just the contacts ?
With the console preferably switched off, you can spray a little bit of electronic contact cleaner aerosol in your joystick, it cleans immediately and acts as a lubricant too, after a few days. Once you've sprayed it move in all directions to spread the product, wipe off the excess if any and let it dry (analog potentiometers are simply 2 carbon tracks). This is a good fix !



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So in june, I've made a fresh first impressions and comparison between the Zero and the Caanoo, on the french forum OpenConsoles. The idea was to know if upgrading from Caanoo to Zero was worth it. So I decided to translate it here because this could also contain useful "review material" !

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Despite the similitudes between the two consoles, this is where the Zero is the greatest one :

-The screen (same 3.5inch/320x240), On the GCW pixels look more fine and crispier, also way better contrast and deep blacks. Display is great on the Caanoo, but appears a bit washed out in direct comparison (Switched off the Zero's one is plain black, where the caanoo is a bit grey). And the backlight : At the minimum settings this is very dim (Sounds dumb but that's not the case on the Caanoo, even on minimum that's way too bright in darkness)
-Battery life (Because I modded my Caanoo with a 2200mah, so exactly the same) : This is absolutely perfect... The hardware holds the charge for a very, very long time.
-Performances : The gap is far more important than I thought. Upgrading was really worth it !
-Good surprise with the triggers : deep course and soft (rubber dome), I prefer that. On the Caanoo there are very short and clicky (microswitches)


Now, this is where the Caanoo stays superior :

-Build quality, and controls : Robust, perfect ! For example abxy buttons have a better disposition and course, make easier simultaneous pushes. No dpad... If the Caanoo had a dpad, it would be better :p (For perfect experience you'll have to mod these)
-Touchscreen / stylus ! Perfect for scummvm, grafx and such, and a brighter maximum backlight setting.
-GMenu2x 0.11 is more rich in options than opendingux, so easier to customize than on the Zero.
-Sound : Way more powerful, no saturation, good lows, medium are good and the highs are way less shrill/harsh.

So I love them both, but the Caanoo will rest for a while :)

So, now, with more hindsight, I still have the same general impressions ! Love it even more since I modded the controls (and the poor Caanoo rests more too^^)
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: Mar8 on October 08, 2016, 12:02:50 am
 You know… I've heard the "it feels cheap because it's really light" comment a couple of times on here and I must say that that is solely a first impression alone… I swear, With all of my other handhelds I have to eventually put them down, but the zero feels like a controller that has everything on the face of it.  It's truly incredible how light it is but how much of a  punch it packs.

I am SO THANKFUL for how light in weight it is.

 In the long term, I think you will agree. @davidgilmour
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: wingedmerchantgaming on March 06, 2017, 05:08:44 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPR8BoFyv08
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: wingedmerchantgaming on March 29, 2017, 06:05:12 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqp_lcntrEU
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: wingedmerchantgaming on March 29, 2017, 06:11:11 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xarJyC4OKIc
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: wingedmerchantgaming on April 06, 2017, 04:24:34 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-y2orDe_hY
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: wingedmerchantgaming on April 13, 2017, 12:52:07 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGPCvbGT6X8
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: gameblabla on April 13, 2017, 09:26:30 pm
Thanks for reviewing my SRB2 port !
Netplay was disabled, due to the SRB2 team constantly breaking netplay between minor releases, as well with PC users.
(due to 32-bits & 64-bits differences)
This should be in theory compatible between the GCW0s though.
I need to update it to version 2.17.

Hope to see more of my stuff in the future (Mednafen, Ganbare, Cannonball etc...) !
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: wingedmerchantgaming on April 20, 2017, 04:56:34 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgBBPccQk6E
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: wingedmerchantgaming on May 05, 2017, 10:21:46 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEP42NH0DaM
Title: Re: GCW Zero Videos and Reviews
Post by: wingedmerchantgaming on May 05, 2017, 10:22:35 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uce7vp2gmts