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Title: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: gmay3 on February 14, 2014, 07:52:03 pm
I?m gmay3, the mechanical designer for GCW, and I think now is a good time to reveal some exciting developments I?ve been working on for the last few months to the D-pad, analog stick, ABXY, and L and R buttons.

We listened to your requests and suggestions and we came up with ways to improve the performance of the current D-pad design. With this new prototype D-pad, which is still undergoing testing, we are planning to gauge public interest.

I wanted to improve the outside dimensions by making them smaller so that there is no risk of any friction building up limiting range of motion. In testing so far I have found that this D-pad extremely comfortable, and you?re able to perform endless swoops for fighters so get ready to HADOUKEN all day long. Overall it feels so much smoother and solid.

I also added some features to the 3d model so that the D-pad makes full contact with the silicon pad below, further ensuring that each direction keypress isn?t missed.

I have slightly increased the amount of curve on the surface of the D-pad so that transitions from one direction to the other feels more fluid.

Another thing I?ve been working on is coming up with new analog stick covers, so that we?re able to suit all your gaming needs and can customize your gaming experience with the GCW-Zero. You can check out a new concave analog stick cover I?ve been working on in the pictures.

We think that you will really enjoy all the new improvements we?re bringing to the GCW-Zero both hardware and software so stay tuned for more future updates!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSFltx_ck5Y

(http://www.gcw-zero.com/images/photos/gmay/photo%201.JPG)

(http://www.gcw-zero.com/images/photos/gmay/photo%202.JPG)

(http://www.gcw-zero.com/images/photos/gmay/photo%203.JPG)

(http://www.gcw-zero.com/images/photos/gmay/photo%204.JPG)
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: HaDAk on February 14, 2014, 08:29:09 pm
Oh, I do like these. I would love to be a guinea pig/beta tester.
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: Yertle on February 14, 2014, 09:02:00 pm
Would these updates be made for new batches of the GCW Zero or would it be for the next generation? Just wondering.
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: Surkow on February 14, 2014, 09:34:55 pm
Think about them as replacement parts (for now).
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: lemmywinks on February 14, 2014, 09:42:28 pm
Would these updates be made for new batches of the GCW Zero or would it be for the next generation? Just wondering.

Are there any new batches?
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: Surkow on February 14, 2014, 09:45:06 pm
Would these updates be made for new batches of the GCW Zero or would it be for the next generation? Just wondering.

Are there any new batches?
Just the Thinkgeek batch currently.
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: Lhadatt on February 14, 2014, 11:21:59 pm
Neat, thanks for posting this.  I have some questions:

- Could we get a look at the d-pad itself, and next to the current d-pad for comparison?
- Will these new parts be painted plastic, or cast in multiple colors?  I know casting in colored plastic might cost more, but it might avoid the paint chipping/wear issues.
- It might be too early to ask, but how much would these cost?
- Need a tester? :)  (Seriously though -- and this is more of a suggestion -- I recommend making sure your test group includes some hardcore fighting game fans.  They'll put the new parts through their paces.)
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: TheChristoph on February 15, 2014, 01:50:43 am
Very promising! I'm looking forward to this very much. I have squeaky, rubbing d-pad and buttons and the L and R button gaps concern me, so I am very hopeful these get released sooner than later.
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: shockdesign on February 15, 2014, 02:02:32 am
Looking great, can't wait to see what they feel like.
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: Xaijiqq on February 15, 2014, 02:07:32 am
so get ready to HADOUKEN all day long

this needs to be used in every infomercial right away
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: Reds on February 15, 2014, 05:45:34 am
Looks pretty interesting. I hope the shoulder buttons aren't altered too much in feel, since I think that the PSP-style blocks are a lot more reliable than something you'd find on, say, the DS series.

Unfortunately I don't trust myself to open up my GCW without damaging it so I'd be interested to hear what possible plans would be available for anybody who wants to give their current GCW an update. Looking forward to hearing some more news about it.
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: 133794m3r on February 15, 2014, 09:37:29 am
these changes better be made available for people who've already bought the thing, it's the _least_ the company to do for people since they've already lied to us about the speakers, the chinesed battery etc.
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: btnheazy03 on February 15, 2014, 09:45:47 am
i hope there's a way for Zero owners to upgrade their existing hardware.
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: sad1942 on February 15, 2014, 09:47:23 am
Congratulations for the new improvements in the GCW-ZERO. ;D

In the future, Will it be possible to buy the new replacement parts in Dragonbox Europe?
Are there any new batches going to Dragonbox? I?m waiting to buy one.

Thank?s.
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: RupeeClock on February 15, 2014, 06:41:29 pm
Replacement d-pad, face and shoulder buttons are exactly what my Kickstarter model needs, a little modding and it could make my device the dream I want it to be. :)
Right now the diagonals on my d-pad are terrible, if for example you want to do a slide whilst running in a Mega Man game, or do a running slide in Mario, it just ain't possible.
Then there's that the A button on my system is unusually stiff even after using it for weeks, although I haven't tried a silicone grease application. It's stiffest when I'm holding down the B button already.
The shoulder buttons aren't an issue, it's just one is slightly looser than the other, no biggie.

There are plenty of games I can enjoy no problem with my GCW Zero the way it is now, but I want to be able to enjoy more without a hitch.
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: tcdev on February 16, 2014, 01:45:44 pm
I would sincerely hope (and expect) that these will indeed be available to existing owners and, furthermore, shipped at no cost. I backed the KS campaign in good faith and would expect the same courtesy in return .

FTR, my GCW-Zero has been sitting in the drawer for the last few months because it is simply unplayable. It's loaded up with pretty much every emulator available, but sadly the only game that is remotely playable is Frogger on the Megadrive. With a completely useless D-PAD and 'A' button, there's just no reason to even try any more, until a fix is available.

I'm loathe to try the silicon grease 'solution' because I suspect it's a stop-gap (and temporary) measure at best and besides, I paid for a working device that hasn't been delivered yet. Under Australian consumer law, we'd all have our money back by now. I'd still like to think that it will be rectified. Aside from the controls and the primitive and ugly UI it's still a nice device!
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: ker on February 17, 2014, 09:04:46 am
I tried grease "solution" this week. (Antes = before, Despu?s = after ;-)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0EsO1IPsBI
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: gmay3 on February 17, 2014, 11:07:14 pm
Thanks for the responses guys! Just wanted to follow up on some of the similar questions.

Right now these new parts are one off's, experimental only, and being internally tested. We are still working on them as prototypes and are not sure when or if they could be produced in mass quantity. This post was mainly to gauge public interest in what we're working on as there are large costs and logistics associated with getting parts like these produced in mass quantities.

The software developers have done amazing things so far with the Zero! We're hoping to open this device up with some sweet hardware mods too so keep leaving cool and interesting ideas that you may have about hardware mods in this post, I know you guys will not disappoint!  ;D

Personally I think a little qwerty keyboard a la xbox 360 controller would be just the bees knees.  ;)

Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: Juan on February 18, 2014, 01:01:57 am
I would sincerely hope (and expect) that these will indeed be available to existing owners and, furthermore, shipped at no cost. I backed the KS campaign in good faith and would expect the same courtesy in return .

It was promised

We have become aware of the issue that some people have experienced with their GCW Zero units. The problem appears to be the d-pad or face buttons refusing to retract to the released position (or as some call it "sticking"). We have noticed that with the extended use of the d-pad/buttons the plastic seems to wear and in most cases it resolves the issue.
However if you have experienced this problem and if it remains unacceptable or unbearable; we will offer you a replacement D-Pad which is being made slightly smaller and appears to resolve the issue   If you choose warranty repair/replacement all you would need to do is mail back the console itself (no need to send other accessories you received), securely packed to prevent damage, back to us. The address to ship is the same as the return address on the package your console was sent in.
If you would like a replacement D-Pad mailed to you when we have them from the factory we will make a post once we get them with a web form for you to fill out with your address so we can mail the replacement.

We would like to emphasize that we have tested all the units for QA here in central USA and we have not experienced this issue. While at this time the origin for this issue is inconclusive, we hypothesize it could be a result of a difference in tolerance during the production process or painting process of the plastic cases d-pad. We are greatly sorry for any inconvenience caused by this issue.
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: hi-ban on February 18, 2014, 01:09:12 am
Note that the "replacement D-Pad which is being made slightly smaller and appears to resolve the issue" is not the same d-pad which the OP is talking about (which is in prototype stage).
The "replacement D-Pad which is being made slightly smaller and appears to resolve the issue" is the one already present in the Thinkgeek units, which is a batch made after the cause of the d-pad issue was spotted.
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: Juan on February 18, 2014, 02:02:41 am
Note that the "replacement D-Pad which is being made slightly smaller and appears to resolve the issue" is not the same d-pad which the OP is talking about (which is in prototype stage).
The "replacement D-Pad which is being made slightly smaller and appears to resolve the issue" is the one already present in the Thinkgeek units, which is a batch made after the cause of the d-pad issue was spotted.
I'm sorry, but I don't see where are you going with that.
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: Surkow on February 18, 2014, 11:18:55 am
Note that the "replacement D-Pad which is being made slightly smaller and appears to resolve the issue" is not the same d-pad which the OP is talking about (which is in prototype stage).
The "replacement D-Pad which is being made slightly smaller and appears to resolve the issue" is the one already present in the Thinkgeek units, which is a batch made after the cause of the d-pad issue was spotted.
I'm sorry, but I don't see where are you going with that.
He states correctly that units should already contain new D-pads. The changes are mainly related to production tolerances. Gmay3 works on an entirely different project.
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: Arrakis on February 18, 2014, 12:48:37 pm
Thanks for the responses guys! Just wanted to follow up on some of the similar questions.

Right now these new parts are one off's, experimental only, and being internally tested. We are still working on them as prototypes and are not sure when or if they could be produced in mass quantity. This post was mainly to gauge public interest in what we're working on as there are large costs and logistics associated with getting parts like these produced in mass quantities.

The software developers have done amazing things so far with the Zero! We're hoping to open this device up with some sweet hardware mods too so keep leaving cool and interesting ideas that you may have about hardware mods in this post, I know you guys will not disappoint!  ;D

Personally I think a little qwerty keyboard a la xbox 360 controller would be just the bees knees.  ;)

The new analogue stick looks great.  If these were to make it into a final product, could you give a ball park estimate on when it would go on sale?
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: gmay3 on February 18, 2014, 02:07:46 pm
As a ballpark estimate these would likely be available for purchase mid to late 2014.
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: Atlantis_Risen on February 18, 2014, 02:32:00 pm
would attempting to install these void any warranty?
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: Juan on February 18, 2014, 11:09:27 pm
He states correctly that units should already contain new D-pads. The changes are mainly related to production tolerances. Gmay3 works on an entirely different project.
This lead me to believe we were talking about the same thing:

I?m gmay3, the mechanical designer for GCW, and I think now is a good time to reveal some exciting developments I?ve been working on for the last few months to the D-pad, analog stick, ABXY, and L and R buttons.

We listened to your requests and suggestions and we came up with ways to improve the performance of the current D-pad design.

So if it's not too much to ask I'd like someone to expand a little on how this "entirely different project" will be treated. Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: Nebuleon on February 19, 2014, 12:15:52 am
So I'd like it if someone I can hold accountable for his or her words can expand a little on whether this "entirely different project" will be treated as an integral part of the GCW Zero project, counting as the resolution of Justin's d-pad promise instead of the improved tolerance d-pad discussed in #21 (http://boards.dingoonity.org/gcw-general/d-pad-and-other-hardware-improvements/msg96934/#msg96934) and being retroactively mailed to everyone who backed and received a first-batch product for free. Thanks in advance.
Is this what you really mean?
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: alyinsanfran on February 19, 2014, 12:19:20 am
I'm loathe to try the silicon grease 'solution' because I suspect it's a stop-gap (and temporary) measure at best

tcdev, I got some grease, this stuff: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008D89GH4 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008D89GH4)

I applied it back in November. It took less than 5 minutes, just a teeny tiny amount and it totally cured the creaking my DPad was making. Transformed my Zero in to a tight little unit that hits every direction I ask it to. I haven't needed to reapply it yet. For $3 it was a no brainer.

I'm not telling you what to do, but considering how cheap and easy the fix was for me, I hate to see you consign yours to the round file!
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: Scoobysnaxx on February 19, 2014, 08:03:43 pm
I have to agree with alyinsanfran on this. A very small amount and my sticky dpad was no longer an issue. Never had to reapply in the time I had my zero. Considering the mostly positive results I read about & how cheap it is, you really have nothing to lose by trying.
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: 133794m3r on February 20, 2014, 10:03:17 am
Purchase? These should be made available for purchase by ks/SE people as they helped get this thing off the ground in the first place and the least you can do is send these off to people who backed this project with the shitty controls that were put in there. It feels nothing like a real console, it feels like crap when I'm playing. Nothing feels natural at all.
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: Wild Penguin on February 20, 2014, 05:58:45 pm
I just want to state that the silicon grease worked wonders for me. The transition from straight -> diagonal ->  straight  (includes transition from straight left -> straight down) was impossible to do reliably originally, but works now without any issues. I used a non-foog-grade grease that I found at a local hardware store, because I didn't want to wait for the delivery by mail. Hope it is not poisonous  ;D.

(seriously: the amount needed was in the order of 10s of ?grams, so I do believe I'm safe)

Also, people who are complaining: please do read the KS FAQ. It is not a store. If you want something ready and 100% working, go to a store and buy something that is 100% ready, tested and reviewed. Also, from the nature of the project, it should have been clear (it was to me when I backed) that this is somewhat of an experimental project, with only a few people (no large company) behind it. So, minor issues like this could have been expected to occur from the beginning. Give some slack to the people behind the project.

For the nature of the project and price of the backup amount I think it is an excellent project that has delivered so far.
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: Senor Quack on February 21, 2014, 12:56:43 am
Gmay3, these look awesome.. For what it's worth, my Kickstarter unit hasn't needed any silicone grease, but some would probably help on the DPAD and the A button.

For anyone looking for a cheap quick way to get some (more than enough for probably 50 GCW Zero applications for like $1 or $2), go to a car parts store and pick up a mini packet of "Spark Plug Boot Grease" they keep by the cash registers, it's just silicone grease.  Sometimes it's called dielectric grease.
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: Thraka on March 03, 2014, 06:25:35 am
I used some silicon grease from the automotive store and it made my DPAD 400x better. However, it still is imperfect. I think it has to do with the way it rocks from the center, or the design of the buttons underneath, I'm unsure.

If I hold DOWN on the DAPD, I can easily lean left or right and rock the entire DPAD to sometimes trigger a diagonal button press, even though my thumb is only focused on the DOWN part. It's very annoying. I only want a diagonal to trigger if my thumb is actually in that region.

Will your new DPADs fix this issue?
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: Eliwood_san on April 14, 2014, 02:23:05 am
any official stattement about the release of the new dpad and buttons for the gcw zero?I dont want to send my gcw zero to repairs or warranty,i want to fix by myself.
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: RupeeClock on April 19, 2014, 05:35:38 pm
I have given my GCW Zero a silicone grease treatment, which has definitely improved the d-pad and button responsiveness, but the diagonals remain to be a bit of an issue.
The diagonals are still too sensitive, for example playing a game of Tetris and you press down to drop the block, and instead find it careening off to the right.

So yeah, still very much interested in the prospect of replacement d-pad/buttons, even if I have to install it myself!
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: Dnilo on May 09, 2014, 01:27:35 pm
I'm thinking about buying this:

http://www.ebay.ie/itm/PSP-Vita-PlayStation-Portable-D-Pad-Button-/181404088053?pt=UK_VG_Replacement_Parts_Tools&hash=item2a3c86b6f5

and this:

http://www.ebay.ie/itm/PSP-Vita-PlayStation-Portable-Action-ABXY-Buttons-/171323563752

After searching for similar size membranes to replace the zero one for a while, I got a PS Vita and the size is almost the same for the D-Pad and exactly the same for the buttons, I think both can be replaced with the clicky ones from the vita, which have the best feeling/feedback among all the video game controllers IMHO.


EDIT: My bad, this doesn't work with the zero, since this membrane doesn't have the 'Poly-dome' to complete the circuit.
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: wepecko on May 18, 2014, 01:44:05 pm
for those who would be interested, these are inside:

(http://wickpick.sweb.cz/uni/butt1.jpg)
(http://wickpick.sweb.cz/uni/butt2.jpg)

I took the sharp knife and scraped the layer of color on the sides of dpad cross. it's definitely a lot better now
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: Xaijiqq on May 18, 2014, 02:14:02 pm
nice images :) exactly what sort of improvements did the scraping do and what did you mean by layer of color, can you elaborate further on this?
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: wepecko on May 18, 2014, 02:26:43 pm
It helps to get rid off squeaks and Dpad stuttering.
All the plastic covers including buttons are sprayed with a thin "color layer" (black/white units). this layer can be scraped off but be aware that underlying plastic is white color even for black units, so the marks could be visible. With white units you don't even notice...
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: Xaijiqq on May 18, 2014, 04:05:00 pm
ah ok thanks.  i'll be sure and tell 'em large marge sent ya!  ;)
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: Atlantis_Risen on May 18, 2014, 06:22:22 pm
(http://www.i-mockery.com/minimocks/largemarge/large-marge-sentya.gif)
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: Xaijiqq on May 18, 2014, 09:20:33 pm
(http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a362/jadams77/largemarge.gif)
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: Aeter on May 21, 2014, 09:02:49 pm
This looks pretty sweet, and it's always good to see new ideas.
Also thanks for the suggestion of using spark plug grease, now I finally know what to look for.
Looking for silicon lubricant just gave me tons 'lube' results.
I'm going to try and get some grease tomorrow and hope my A and Y buttons become less clicky sticky.
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: wepecko on June 03, 2014, 12:36:14 pm
Hi, I got this new Zero  ;)

(https://googledrive.com/host/0BztIfxB9OVP-TW9iMDJxV3YxZVU/gcwdingoo.jpg)

buttons are from Dingoo obviously. they are 1mm diameter wider, so the slight modification to the case needs to be done...
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: Goggles2114 on June 03, 2014, 04:15:27 pm
That actually looks pretty nice.
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: Kudonomiya on June 09, 2014, 10:50:25 am
Wow, where did you buy those buttons?
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: Nebuleon on June 09, 2014, 10:56:27 am
Wow, where did you buy those buttons?
They are, or were, from a Dingoo A320.
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: wepecko on June 09, 2014, 11:58:19 am
i made some photos during the process so I can post a little to-do tut if someone would be interested.
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: kaio on June 09, 2014, 03:27:32 pm
i made some photos during the process so I can post a little to-do tut if someone would be interested.
wepecko, please post it
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: zear on June 09, 2014, 04:03:52 pm
Wow, where did you buy those buttons?
They are, or were, from a Dingoo A320.
Dingoo Technology A380.
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: wepecko on June 14, 2014, 05:11:53 pm
OK, so basically my original intention was to have all buttons in red and also DPad ala Nintendo. So I asked here and there and got a set of NDS buttons and also A380 buttons (thanks JodyFox, Anthony)

(https://googledrive.com/host/0BztIfxB9OVP-TW9iMDJxV3YxZVU/gcw1.jpg)
(top to bottom: NDS, A380, GCW0)

unfortunately the NDS has much smaller Dpad cross so I wasn't able to use it. Also the rubber pads under Dpad and buttons are not cross-compatible with GCW0 without some heavy modification. The size (diameter) of NDS buttons is perfect for GCW0 but they are quite lower (shorter?) than GCW0. But this can be solved as you will see below.

(https://googledrive.com/host/0BztIfxB9OVP-TW9iMDJxV3YxZVU/gcw3.jpg)

So I decided to go with A380 bcause it looks nice with white Dpad, until I find some better replacement. The only problem is that A380 buttons are something like 1mm diameter bigger than GCW0. Luckily there is enough space to modify the case so the buttons will fit.

Tools you gonna need :-)
(https://googledrive.com/host/0BztIfxB9OVP-TW9iMDJxV3YxZVU/gcw10.jpg)

So first, you need to make the hole bigger. I've got limited resources so I used drills number 7.5 and 8 (I hope I remember the correct sizes). The GCW0 plastic is quite soft so if you use sharp drills you will need just your hands. Be carefull and work patiently to scrape only the small amounts of plastic so the hole keeps perfectly circular. Use #7.5 and then #8 until the button fits perfectly in the hole.

(https://googledrive.com/host/0BztIfxB9OVP-TW9iMDJxV3YxZVU/gcw5.jpg)
Here you can see widened button hole

The second thing is that every button has its own outshots to keep the button in the place without rotation. ofcourse they are not GCW0 compatible :-) There is also collar edge which is bigger then is needed. For this you need the small rasper to make the edge smaller to fit in the hole.

(https://googledrive.com/host/0BztIfxB9OVP-TW9iMDJxV3YxZVU/gcw6.jpg)
Collar egde before and after the modification

The third thing is to take care of the bottom of button.

(https://googledrive.com/host/0BztIfxB9OVP-TW9iMDJxV3YxZVU/gcw4.jpg)

As you can see, you need to add something there to fill the hole. Also its great occasion to adjust the height of button to your needs. For me the original GCW0 buttons have little bit too "long" step to push the button so I made the fill little bit higher for more "rapid pushes" :-)

(https://googledrive.com/host/0BztIfxB9OVP-TW9iMDJxV3YxZVU/gcw7.jpg)
you just need to cut a strip of paper (approx. 130mm x 3.5mm), roll it tight and fix it with a drop of glue in the bottom of button

(https://googledrive.com/host/0BztIfxB9OVP-TW9iMDJxV3YxZVU/gcw8.jpg)
It's in the place finally..

As a last step you need to cut small strips of some kind of sturdy paper to replace removed outshots and glue it carefully in the place. It looks little bit clumsy but I believe its good enough replacement and I didn't notice any troubles with button rotation so far.

(https://googledrive.com/host/0BztIfxB9OVP-TW9iMDJxV3YxZVU/gcw9.jpg)



So basically that's it. I'm quite satisfied with this mod. Buttons are little bit bigger, closer to each other, they work without any problems or jamming and their surface is acrylic so the fingers slides better between them. Also the ugly "rattle" noise of original buttons is away.

(https://googledrive.com/host/0BztIfxB9OVP-TW9iMDJxV3YxZVU/gcw11.jpg)
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: DARK-SPIRIT on July 06, 2014, 10:11:46 pm
Wow, looks great with the A-380 buttons. can't wait to modify the console.
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: sloth713 on July 26, 2014, 07:19:36 pm
Are there any updates on the D-Pad, buttons, and analog stick hardware improvements? 
Like many others I would like to buy a GCW Zero but I'm waiting for the hardware to have all the kinks worked out.
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: fosamax on July 29, 2014, 02:20:12 pm
Here's mine :

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/69681052/GCW/Photo%20004.jpg)

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/69681052/GCW/Photo%20009.jpg)

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/69681052/GCW/Photo%20005.jpg)

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/69681052/GCW/Photo%20006.jpg)

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/69681052/GCW/Photo%20001.jpg)

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/69681052/GCW/Photo%20002.jpg)
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: ker on July 29, 2014, 04:53:37 pm
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/69681052/GCW/Photo%20009.jpg)
It's a classic Gameboy dpad, isn't it?

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/69681052/GCW/Photo%20006.jpg)
What did you change here?
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: fosamax on July 29, 2014, 05:15:06 pm
It's a classic Gameboy DPAD from http://www.google.fr/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCUQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fstore.kitsch-bent.com%2F&ei=lsfXU7CiMcab1AXN9oCgAg&usg=AFQjCNHCQ98g5ALa_1cGmbTN1BVbSmcxzA&bvm=bv.71778758,d.d2k (http://www.google.fr/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCUQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fstore.kitsch-bent.com%2F&ei=lsfXU7CiMcab1AXN9oCgAg&usg=AFQjCNHCQ98g5ALa_1cGmbTN1BVbSmcxzA&bvm=bv.71778758,d.d2k)

I added a small plastic part under ABXY button so they don't move anymore when you shake the device and the A button doesn't get stuck anymore (way easier than DPAD mod).

I also masked the LED and the place under the bezel with electric tape to avoid some annoying light (it's a bit overdone for the LED since you can't see those except in full obscurity)...
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: Beerman1138 on July 29, 2014, 08:06:12 pm
It's a classic Gameboy DPAD from http://www.google.fr/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCUQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fstore.kitsch-bent.com%2F&ei=lsfXU7CiMcab1AXN9oCgAg&usg=AFQjCNHCQ98g5ALa_1cGmbTN1BVbSmcxzA&bvm=bv.71778758,d.d2k (http://www.google.fr/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0CCUQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fstore.kitsch-bent.com%2F&ei=lsfXU7CiMcab1AXN9oCgAg&usg=AFQjCNHCQ98g5ALa_1cGmbTN1BVbSmcxzA&bvm=bv.71778758,d.d2k)

I added a small plastic part under ABXY button so they don't move anymore when you shake the device and the A button doesn't get stuck anymore (way easier than DPAD mod).

I also masked the LED and the place under the bezel with electric tape to avoid some annoying light (it's a bit overdone for the LED since you can't see those except in full obscurity)...

Nice mods.  In fact, what did you use for that small plastic part?  My A button sticks to the point where I have to open it up to fix it, and would like to try this with mine.....thanks!
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: Goggles2114 on January 21, 2015, 11:55:23 pm
Hey mind walking through what you did with the battery? Did you make it so it can be swapped out?

Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: fosamax on January 22, 2015, 08:55:45 am
Hi, what I've done to the battery is adding a JST connector, commonly used by RC enthusiast :

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xjst+connector&_nkw=jst+connector&_sacat=0 (http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xjst+connector&_nkw=jst+connector&_sacat=0)

You can see more pics on that tutorial :

http://boards.dingoonity.org/gcw-general/gcw-zero-disassembly-and-d-pad-mod-tutorial/msg110661/#msg110661 (http://boards.dingoonity.org/gcw-general/gcw-zero-disassembly-and-d-pad-mod-tutorial/msg110661/#msg110661)

I soldered one end on the mobo and use thermal heat shrink on the battery side.

Depending how much wire you've got, you may be able to use heat shrink on both sides. My zero came with very short wires so I could'nt open it easily and that mod is really great if you want to perform other modification like d-pad mod that
need many ajustments.

Button mod otherwise is quite easy.
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: Xaijiqq on January 22, 2015, 09:53:37 am
I added a small plastic part under ABXY button so they don't move anymore when you shake the device and the A button doesn't get stuck anymore (way easier than DPAD mod).
Button mod otherwise is quite easy.
I really can't stress enough how much an improvement it does adding something underneath the face buttons.  it just feels complete and though it is a very simple fix its still a hassle to open the device but i would say worth the trouble all things considering

for mine i glued one of these faceted acrylic jewels under each button, perfect fit:
(http://images.michaels.com/cms/michaelssa/www/Sites-MichaelsUS-Site/large/Node:IOGLO000030000900001000040000H0001M0001L0000E000020000J0001Y0000200VNB.ViewAsset)
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: Unholy Warz on January 23, 2015, 05:58:01 pm
My d-pad is really mushy but I don't have the finesse to whittle plastic for the gb replacement.

Might this work with the d-pad somehow too?
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: opt2not on January 23, 2015, 07:56:50 pm
As a ballpark estimate these would likely be available for purchase mid to late 2014.

Any updates about this?  I wouldn't mind updating my GCW with these newer parts if it improves the feel and lessens the noise.
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: Goggles2114 on January 23, 2015, 09:47:30 pm
Alright. In addition to the button mods. Can you give us a user srfvicable battery? Why that wasn't a thing in an 'open source user hackable' handheld from the start completely baffles me. I mean c'mon I expect that kind of stuff off Apple, not someone dependent on the open source community.
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: gmay3 on January 24, 2015, 11:50:10 am
Really nice looking mods guys!

Goggles2114, I hear ya. This is something we would like to do as well in the future. I don't know for sure why this wasn't on the radar for the consumer GCW model, but I would imagine the user serviceable battery would had added cost in parts (battery connectors, labor, etc.).
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: Gab1975 on January 24, 2015, 12:12:16 pm
A "pre-modded kit" with a ready d-pad and buttons (+ respective membranes) it would be a great help in the modding/improvement operations... maybe marketed from the GCW... ehm, but now I'm too optimistic! :P
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: Goggles2114 on January 24, 2015, 04:25:01 pm
Any ideas why you went with a textureless d-pad? Just looking at the zero with the DMG d-pad makes it look better. I dunno, personal preference I guess.

Would like the ability to swap out for colored buttons. Add a little solace.

Hell, add the option for a colored back plate (that's intended to be gotten into. Not sure if any design changes would be needed there since a screw hole is a screw hole. Maybe make the access bits wider with little rubbery domes instead of teeny tiny glue bits,) and I'd want to get a white one. I like the two tone look.

I want the zero to have a long and healthy life. For this to happen we need a healthy supply of replacement parts.
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: Mountainmohawk on January 24, 2015, 09:27:12 pm
Anyone have any idea of how to improve the responsiveness of the shoulder buttons? My l button is pretty awful.
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: 8BitKid on February 13, 2015, 12:26:43 am
Are there any plans to release a new batch with these case revisions? I actually had the GCW Zero SE, but sold it because the hardware was so bad at the time. It seems like there are some fixes and solutions, but would love to buy it again if these changes were integrated.
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: congusbongus on February 13, 2015, 05:33:12 am
Any ideas why you went with a textureless d-pad? Just looking at the zero with the DMG d-pad makes it look better. I dunno, personal preference I guess.
Textureless d-pads are more comfortable. I have memories of getting blisters on my left thumb from playing SNES street fighter 2 (guess why). The best regarded d-pads (Saturn, PS) are textureless. Even Nintendo have stopped making textured d-pads since GC. The only advantage I can think of for textured is if you're into the NES/GB nostalgia.
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: hi-ban on February 13, 2015, 11:32:33 am
I have memories of getting blisters on my left thumb from playing SNES street fighter 2 (guess why).

Same happened to me with Killer Instinct on the GB.
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: Aeter on February 13, 2015, 12:26:18 pm
If you want blisters, try mario party.  ;)
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: TheMcD on February 14, 2015, 08:43:55 pm
Well, I tried my hand at doing the DMG-1 d-pad replacement using the pad from my old GB, and it failed horribly. The plastic was just refusing to cooperate when it came to being cut and was pinging off all over the place, leading to imprecise cuts. Eventually, it was whittled down to what I figured resembled the figures in the pictures in the wiki article, I installed it, and it turned my Zero into an unusable mess - the left diagonals turned hyper-sensitive, making even menu browsing a nightmare, and the pad would stick harder than the original one. So now I'm going to have to install the old d-pad back just so I can actually browse the menu and stuff.

Is that caused by age or something? Being a part from an original GB, it was fairly old and had been used quite a bit, but it was still perfectly fine when it was still in the GB. Would ordering a newly-made replacement make it easier to cut properly, and if so, is there a store that sells those that doesn't charge outrageous shipping fees and take incredibly long to ship to Germany like Kitsch-Bent, posted earlier in the thread, does?
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: Surkow on February 14, 2015, 11:07:13 pm
Even though shipping won't be any faster, I'd recommend something like this (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gray-OEM-New-Full-Housing-Shell-for-Nintendo-For-Gameboy-Classic-for-GB-DMG-/171576531847?nma=true&si=Mn5D1TAnj%252BvgQUpgf%252BCykOUaVjU%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557).
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: Goggles2114 on February 15, 2015, 12:39:25 am
Epic. Also useful if you want to try making a raspberry pi gameboy.

I do note no rubber pads though. Bit of a minus. Good find.
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: TheMcD on February 15, 2015, 12:51:10 am
Even though shipping won't be any faster, I'd recommend something like this (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gray-OEM-New-Full-Housing-Shell-for-Nintendo-For-Gameboy-Classic-for-GB-DMG-/171576531847?nma=true&si=Mn5D1TAnj%252BvgQUpgf%252BCykOUaVjU%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557).

They actually don't ship to Germany at all, so that's not an option either.

I ended up finding a different store that had what I was looking for called ASM Retro at a decent enough rate and ordered two d-pads from them (in case I mess up with one). Now the waiting starts.
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: Surkow on February 15, 2015, 01:10:50 am
Even though shipping won't be any faster, I'd recommend something like this (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gray-OEM-New-Full-Housing-Shell-for-Nintendo-For-Gameboy-Classic-for-GB-DMG-/171576531847?nma=true&si=Mn5D1TAnj%252BvgQUpgf%252BCykOUaVjU%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557).

They actually don't ship to Germany at all, so that's not an option either.

I ended up finding a different store that had what I was looking for called ASM Retro at a decent enough rate and ordered two d-pads from them (in case I mess up with one). Now the waiting starts.
Germany is listed as a shipping option. I received my order from that guy in a matter of weeks.
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: TheMcD on February 15, 2015, 03:28:33 am
Even though shipping won't be any faster, I'd recommend something like this (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Gray-OEM-New-Full-Housing-Shell-for-Nintendo-For-Gameboy-Classic-for-GB-DMG-/171576531847?nma=true&si=Mn5D1TAnj%252BvgQUpgf%252BCykOUaVjU%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557).

They actually don't ship to Germany at all, so that's not an option either.

I ended up finding a different store that had what I was looking for called ASM Retro at a decent enough rate and ordered two d-pads from them (in case I mess up with one). Now the waiting starts.
Germany is listed as a shipping option. I received my order from that guy in a matter of weeks.

I guess I was mostly confused because that one listing in particular had it in big red letters that it would not ship to Germany, so I assumed it to be the same for the others:

(http://vpforums.org/imghost/77/shipping.png)

Well, now I've already ordered from somewhere else (that, and the guy is on holiday from Feb 13th to Feb 25th), but I'll keep that guy in mind, should I mess up those parts as well (and I've got the bad feeling that I'll manage to do that somehow).

Thanks for pointing that out.
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: Xaijiqq on February 15, 2015, 10:11:24 am
Well, I tried my hand at doing the DMG-1 d-pad replacement using the pad from my old GB, and it failed horribly. The plastic was just refusing to cooperate when it came to being cut and was pinging off all over the place, leading to imprecise cuts. Eventually, it was whittled down to what I figured resembled the figures in the pictures in the wiki article, I installed it, and it turned my Zero into an unusable mess - the left diagonals turned hyper-sensitive, making even menu browsing a nightmare, and the pad would stick harder than the original one. So now I'm going to have to install the old d-pad back just so I can actually browse the menu and stuff.

Is that caused by age or something? Being a part from an original GB, it was fairly old and had been used quite a bit, but it was still perfectly fine when it was still in the GB. Would ordering a newly-made replacement make it easier to cut properly, and if so, is there a store that sells those that doesn't charge outrageous shipping fees and take incredibly long to ship to Germany like Kitsch-Bent, posted earlier in the thread, does?
what exactly did you use to cut the dpad?  i wouldn't use the suggested X-Acto knife unless its a heavy duty one because i went through 2 of them breaking both blades it is a pretty tough material
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: ker on February 15, 2015, 12:29:50 pm
what exactly did you use to cut the dpad?  i wouldn't use the suggested X-Acto knife unless its a heavy duty one because i went through 2 of them breaking both blades it is a pretty tough material

I've used a x-acto knife with a #11 blade and it works just fine. Just made small cuts each time.
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: Verdugo on February 15, 2015, 03:56:16 pm
Hi, I don't know if this is the right topic, but does anyone know if Dragonbox.de will be supplied with the improved gcw units? The gcw zero has been out of stock there for quite some time and I wonder if the next batch supplied will have improved dpads and buttons.
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: Xaijiqq on February 15, 2015, 04:48:27 pm
what exactly did you use to cut the dpad?  i wouldn't use the suggested X-Acto knife unless its a heavy duty one because i went through 2 of them breaking both blades it is a pretty tough material

I've used a x-acto knife with a #11 blade and it works just fine. Just made small cuts each time.
not sure what blade was on them but most likely neither was #11
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: vonzippenstein on April 23, 2015, 08:06:13 am
(http://vonzippenstein.com/gcwzero/images/gcwzero_mod1.jpg)
Primed and lacquered the d-pad along with a few mods and the buttons are from a red DS shell. Originally I was going to use the Gameboy d-pad like a few posts back but no matter how much I shaved off of it I couldn't get it to act right. So I switched back to the original.
(http://vonzippenstein.com/gcwzero/images/gcwzero_mod2.jpg)
Put a pen ink tube over the d-pad spindle that added a few millimeters of height. This made the directions hardly register when pressed since the ends rode more on the edge. I folded some little bits of orange paper and stuffed it in the pockets on the back to give it a bit more thickness. And now they press easier and the center has a pivot. DS buttons are not an exact fit. They're too wide and too short, but this is exactly what drew me to them in the first place. To add more height, and up the letters right side up, I cut the bases off the old buttons and used e6000 glue to attach them to the new buttons. But they were still too short to register so I cut some plastic up, a AAA card, and attached it underneath. Also I had to sand the button holes on the case to widen them out for the DS buttons.
(http://vonzippenstein.com/gcwzero/images/gcwzero_mod3.jpg)
 Probably took it apart and put it back together like 30 times and broke then reattached every soldered connection. But I'm pretty happy with the result. It feels the way I wanted.
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: Surkow on April 23, 2015, 11:58:30 am
Looks very nice!

You could have added a JST connector if you broke the soldered connections that many times. ;)

(http://i.imgur.com/THUCzaJ.jpg)
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: opt2not on May 05, 2015, 11:14:02 pm
I'd like to look into making the Start and Select buttons quieter.
From the GCW disassembly thread, it looks like the two switches are surface soldered to the mainboard and shouldn't be too difficult to replace, if you're handy with a soldering iron:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/69681052/Mod%20GCW/Photo%20026.jpg)

Anyone know of a good replacement for these switches, something with a lighter engage?  Or is it not the switches themselves, but the actual buttons making the noise?

At the moment they have a pretty loud click, and when most emulators use both Start+Select presses to get to the emulator's menu, you really get double the clicking sound which sucks for people like me who tend to game on the GCW in bed at night when the kids and missus are sleeping.
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: opt2not on May 12, 2015, 09:42:12 pm
Anyone?  Been trying to find the name of these buttons but I must be retarded at using google lately...
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: Xaijiqq on May 13, 2015, 03:05:58 am
Anyone?  Been trying to find the name of these buttons but I must be retarded at using google lately...

http://boards.dingoonity.org/gcw-general/gcw-zero-replacement-microswitch-for-selectstart-buttons/ (http://boards.dingoonity.org/gcw-general/gcw-zero-replacement-microswitch-for-selectstart-buttons/)

this thread looks to have a link for replacements not sure about making the buttons quieter.  the caanoo appears to have similar start & select buttons and the clicking is definitely less noticeable.  gotta be some way to adjust it     
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: fosamax on May 16, 2015, 09:14:05 am
Hi, anyone looking for Dingoo A380 button could buy from AliExpress :

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/dingoo-a320-a330-a320e-a380-case-outner-replace-case-shell/669698913.html (http://www.aliexpress.com/item/dingoo-a320-a330-a320e-a380-case-outner-replace-case-shell/669698913.html)

I bought one shell (I stated I didn't care about color so I got a pink one !) and got all buttons except power switch but ABXY are there.

Here's some real pics.

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/69681052/IMG_0265.JPG)

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/69681052/IMG_0266.JPG)



I modified one GCW Zero for a fellow member from open-consoles but I will let him show you the result.

I may make an how to when I find time to apply the same changes to mine.
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: krs one on May 16, 2015, 04:36:21 pm
Thanks, just ordered a set. Been wanting some colored buttons for my white case. Will really make it pop then.
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: tekkaman on May 20, 2015, 04:25:36 am
Just wanted to update that my system is now unusable. The A button issue was tolerable but now the D-pad is stuck to the left. -_- I bought this in the last days of December and it didn't last long. I feel I bought a piece of crap.
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: Yertle on May 20, 2015, 06:13:20 pm
Just wanted to update that my system is now unusable. The A button issue was tolerable but now the D-pad is stuck to the left. -_- I bought this in the last days of December and it didn't last long. I feel I bought a piece of crap.

You should send an email to GCW. [email protected] or [email protected]
 
See if they are willing to help you out.
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: opt2not on May 20, 2015, 07:27:59 pm
Anyone?  Been trying to find the name of these buttons but I must be retarded at using google lately...

http://boards.dingoonity.org/gcw-general/gcw-zero-replacement-microswitch-for-selectstart-buttons/ (http://boards.dingoonity.org/gcw-general/gcw-zero-replacement-microswitch-for-selectstart-buttons/)

this thread looks to have a link for replacements not sure about making the buttons quieter.  the caanoo appears to have similar start & select buttons and the clicking is definitely less noticeable.  gotta be some way to adjust it   
Thanks for this link. From the button suggestion, linked in the last post, it looks promising that these buttons might be quieter.

"Actuating Force: 100~300gf"

Any switch close to 100gf would be fairly quiet, so this could be a good replacement.
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: tekkaman on May 21, 2015, 04:13:18 am
Just wanted to update that my system is now unusable. The A button issue was tolerable but now the D-pad is stuck to the left. -_- I bought this in the last days of December and it didn't last long. I feel I bought a piece of crap.

You should send an email to GCW. [email protected] or [email protected]
 
See if they are willing to help you out.

Have you or anyone send their unit for repairs ? I think I read somewhere that someone here sent his to repair and never got it back or something.
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: howie_k on May 21, 2015, 08:01:23 am
I sent my KS unit back for repair (from the UK), and I had to chase a few times, but I got a replacement unit in the end, a few months later.
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: Yertle on May 21, 2015, 09:02:19 pm
Just wanted to update that my system is now unusable. The A button issue was tolerable but now the D-pad is stuck to the left. -_- I bought this in the last days of December and it didn't last long. I feel I bought a piece of crap.

You should send an email to GCW. [email protected] or [email protected]
 
See if they are willing to help you out.

Have you or anyone send their unit for repairs ? I think I read somewhere that someone here sent his to repair and never got it back or something.

I'm not sure if GCW is giving any kind of warranty on retail units. If he is, I wouldn't worry about never getting your unit back. It might take some time but right now it's unplayable. If you open it up and something gets messed up, that will surely void any kind of warranty that might be given. I think it's worth at least sending an email over to see what he has to say.
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: Beerman1138 on May 21, 2015, 10:12:24 pm
And to be clear -- it's really easy to break things inside the Zero.  So, if you are not confident, go with the warranty. 
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: tekkaman on May 22, 2015, 11:41:29 pm
Well [email protected] seems to be inactive. The letter bounced back to me and I haven't received reply from [email protected] .
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: Yertle on May 23, 2015, 12:07:57 am
Well [email protected] seems to be inactive. The letter bounced back to me and I haven't received reply from [email protected] .

I will send him a private message through Kickstarter for you.
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: zear on May 23, 2015, 11:56:50 am
Well [email protected] seems to be inactive. The letter bounced back to me and I haven't received reply from [email protected] .

The domain is gcw-zero.com, not gcwzero.com.
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: tekkaman on June 14, 2015, 12:43:01 am
Well I got only one reply from GCW Zero asking if I tried lube. I told him that my problem seems to be more with the membrane/rubber thing inside the D-pad. I haven't heard from him since.
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: jamboid on June 15, 2015, 06:51:53 pm
read my post here:-

http://boards.dingoonity.org/gcw-general/d-pad-and-buttons-sticking-issue/360/
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: tekkaman on June 26, 2015, 11:19:25 am
What if I have to replace the rubber inside ? Is the gameboy one compatible ?
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: jamboid on June 26, 2015, 06:23:32 pm
no idea. i just purchased a replacement gameboy dpad.
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: davidgilmour on May 12, 2019, 11:19:27 am
OK, so basically my original intention was to have all buttons in red and also DPad ala Nintendo. So I asked here and there and got a set of NDS buttons and also A380 buttons (thanks JodyFox, Anthony)


Hi @wepecko your photos dont show up anymore, do you still have them?
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: wepecko on May 13, 2019, 09:08:25 pm
OK, so basically my original intention was to have all buttons in red and also DPad ala Nintendo. So I asked here and there and got a set of NDS buttons and also A380 buttons (thanks JodyFox, Anthony)


Hi @wepecko your photos dont show up anymore, do you still have them?


Hello,

can you see here?

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0BztIfxB9OVP-TW9iMDJxV3YxZVU
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: davidgilmour on May 13, 2019, 11:15:48 pm
OK, so basically my original intention was to have all buttons in red and also DPad ala Nintendo. So I asked here and there and got a set of NDS buttons and also A380 buttons (thanks JodyFox, Anthony)


Hi @wepecko your photos dont show up anymore, do you still have them?
Yes, thanks!


Hello,

can you see here?

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0BztIfxB9OVP-TW9iMDJxV3YxZVU

Yes, thanks. So you did not modify the d-pad? Buttons only?
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: wepecko on May 15, 2019, 07:46:35 am
OK, so basically my original intention was to have all buttons in red and also DPad ala Nintendo. So I asked here and there and got a set of NDS buttons and also A380 buttons (thanks JodyFox, Anthony)


Hi @wepecko your photos dont show up anymore, do you still have them?
Yes, thanks!


Hello,

can you see here?

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0BztIfxB9OVP-TW9iMDJxV3YxZVU

Yes, thanks. So you did not modify the d-pad? Buttons only?

Yes i did. Somewhere else in this forum there is few pictures of modding my dpad with a ball from bearings
It is in separate thread
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: wepecko on May 15, 2019, 07:56:15 am
Here
http://boards.dingoonity.org/gcw-general/d-pad-and-buttons-sticking-issue/320/
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: davidgilmour on May 15, 2019, 01:38:03 pm
Here
http://boards.dingoonity.org/gcw-general/d-pad-and-buttons-sticking-issue/320/

Great!
I will in a few days open my gcw0 to change the d-pad.
Have a few options. Hopefully won?t break it though!
Title: Re: D-Pad and Other Hardware Improvements
Post by: Surkow on May 15, 2019, 02:19:14 pm
Here
http://boards.dingoonity.org/gcw-general/d-pad-and-buttons-sticking-issue/320/

Great!
I will in a few days open my gcw0 to change the d-pad.
Have a few options. Hopefully won?t break it though!
I'd suggest you to watch either a video showing how to disassemble a GCW Zero or to check these (http://web.archive.org/web/20170503124005/http://wiki.surkow.com/Hardware_Modifications) guides. The first thing people usually break are the wires to the battery and the shoulder buttons. Next on the list is people breaking their power switch.