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Title: given up on installing linux
Post by: frankbuse on November 14, 2009, 09:52:27 pm
Hi guys after having tried everything in my power in getting dingux to work on my dingoo i have thrown the towel.
Cant get it to work
I tried everything i have read on this forum also the idiots guide and the other guides but i just cant get it to work

Problem is i cant get dualboot to work in cmd the flashing progress runs great but when the flasher screen has to pop up on the dingoo it just remains black(i have the 9331_3 screen)

tried everything removed chinachip loader and also followed the steps from someone on the forum how to remove them in 10 steps but nothing works

Also formatted sd card in 32 and copied after renaming zImage to sd and after that rootfs and after that the complete local folder etcetera.

1 Final try from me: I want to understand why I cant figure it out,I think lots of other users of this great product have the same problem :

IS THERE SOMEONE IN THE NETHERLANDS NEAR SNEEK WHO CAN COME TO MY HOUSE AND GO THOUGH THIS TOGETHER!!

And if he/she gets it to work maybe we can place the tutorial on this forum so you guys/girls who have the same problem can get it sorted out

Greets Fank
Title: Re: given up on installing linux
Post by: TCRe on November 14, 2009, 10:04:18 pm
I just had this problem I just used a different computer and it worked
Title: Re: given up on installing linux
Post by: Kalisiin on November 14, 2009, 10:49:18 pm
Hi guys after having tried everything in my power in getting dingux to work on my dingoo i have thrown the towel.
Cant get it to work
I tried everything i have read on this forum also the idiots guide and the other guides but i just cant get it to work

Problem is i cant get dualboot to work in cmd the flashing progress runs great but when the flasher screen has to pop up on the dingoo it just remains black(i have the 9331_3 screen)

tried everything removed chinachip loader and also followed the steps from someone on the forum how to remove them in 10 steps but nothing works

Also formatted sd card in 32 and copied after renaming zImage to sd and after that rootfs and after that the complete local folder etcetera.

1 Final try from me: I want to understand why I cant figure it out,I think lots of other users of this great product have the same problem :

IS THERE SOMEONE IN THE NETHERLANDS NEAR SNEEK WHO CAN COME TO MY HOUSE AND GO THOUGH THIS TOGETHER!!

And if he/she gets it to work maybe we can place the tutorial on this forum so you guys/girls who have the same problem can get it sorted out

Greets Fank

Are you using XP or Windows Vista or Windows 7?

Vista and 7 users have reported some problems, and there is a guide specific to vista and 7 users that gets them past those problems.

Let us know, since you never told us what OS your computer is using to try this.

Like a lot of folks, you're throwing in the towel way too early, or you're pushing it at someone else saying, "It's broke, fix it..." without giving us enough information to actually help you.
Title: Re: given up on installing linux
Post by: frankbuse on November 15, 2009, 09:11:54 am
Hi I am using vista and have tried all the guides I coud find and have spent about 15-20 hours figuring it out so I did give it a try...
Still no go,but if you know the solution i would be very grateful

Frank
Title: Re: given up on installing linux
Post by: Kalisiin on November 15, 2009, 09:23:39 am
Hi I am using vista and have tried all the guides I coud find and have spent about 15-20 hours figuring it out so I did give it a try...
Still no go,but if you know the solution i would be very grateful

Frank

It would be very helpful if you could actually specify, EXACTLY what steps you have taken...not just "I've tried everything..."

That said...

Try this Guide...if you are using Vista
Follow it step-by-step...don't rush it, don't skip steps.


http://fssi.x10hosting.com/dingoo.htm

If I could do it...ANYONE can.
Title: Re: given up on installing linux
Post by: frankbuse on November 15, 2009, 09:42:05 am
Hi yes I tried that guide and came to step 4 but when the flasher screen needs to pop up on my dingoo it just remains black

Title: Re: given up on installing linux
Post by: Azm0deus on November 15, 2009, 10:30:49 am
I have this problem too. I tried in two different computers with windows xp sp3 installed.

I followed many guides and tips from other dingoo owners, but still have no luck. My dingoo is the no paw version, and it came with fw 1.1, i upgraded too pof's cfw 1.2

The screen remains black after doing all the steps.

If someone knows about a guide to install with ubuntu, i would give it a try.
Title: Re: given up on installing linux
Post by: joepie91 on November 15, 2009, 11:33:40 am
Try "Veilig Verwijderen" first, when your device is normally attached (not in boot mode) to remove the disk drive. Then unplug it, restart it in boot mode, and do the steps, and then the flashing window should show up.

I had the same problem here, though in XP.
Title: Re: given up on installing linux
Post by: frankbuse on November 17, 2009, 06:57:29 pm
Try "Veilig Verwijderen" first, when your device is normally attached (not in boot mode) to remove the disk drive. Then unplug it, restart it in boot mode, and do the steps, and then the flashing window should show up.

I had the same problem here, though in XP.

hallo joepie yes i have also tried that and that doesnt do the truck helaas

gr Frank
Title: Re: given up on installing linux
Post by: zear on November 17, 2009, 08:05:42 pm
If you have problems installing it under windows, you could always try to do it on linux. There are plenty of small livecd distributions, shouldn't be a problem to download one, and boot it.
Title: Re: given up on installing linux
Post by: frankbuse on November 20, 2009, 02:58:29 pm
I know i wrote i gave up on installing dingux  but Is it possible i can't get dingux to work because I have got an intel dual core 2 processor(64 bit pc)?

Frank

 
Title: Re: given up on installing linux
Post by: joepie91 on November 20, 2009, 04:08:55 pm
I know i wrote i gave up on installing dingux  but Is it possible i can't get dingux to work because I have got an intel dual core 2 processor(64 bit pc)?

Frank

 
That depends whether you have a 64-bit version of Windows installed or not. A lot of drivers don't work under 64-bit Windows. In that case, get a Linux LiveCD/LiveDVD, and flash the loader from there, since it does not require special drivers to flash under Linux.
Title: Re: given up on installing linux
Post by: Azm0deus on November 20, 2009, 06:57:03 pm
I know i wrote i gave up on installing dingux  but Is it possible i can't get dingux to work because I have got an intel dual core 2 processor(64 bit pc)?

Frank

 

Well I'm in the same situation as you and I tried with my Core2Duo pc and with my netbook (Advent 4211c - MSI Wind clone 1.6GHz processor). Failed in both systems.
Title: Re: given up on installing linux
Post by: frankbuse on November 20, 2009, 07:06:51 pm
I know i wrote i gave up on installing dingux  but Is it possible i can't get dingux to work because I have got an intel dual core 2 processor(64 bit pc)?

Frank

 
That depends whether you have a 64-bit version of Windows installed or not. A lot of drivers don't work under 64-bit Windows. In that case, get a Linux LiveCD/LiveDVD, and flash the loader from there, since it does not require special drivers to flash under Linux.

just installed ubuntu linux on my laptop and now figuring out how linux works
once i figure out how to start op the dualboot via linux i will let you know
if i wont let you know i guess that means i didnt figure linux out yet ?'= (damn looks like my keyboard settings is?nt right either)

Hah just figured my keyboard settings :-) now the smiley does work!!

Frank 
Title: Re: given up on installing linux
Post by: joepie91 on November 20, 2009, 08:30:43 pm
I know i wrote i gave up on installing dingux  but Is it possible i can't get dingux to work because I have got an intel dual core 2 processor(64 bit pc)?

Frank

 
That depends whether you have a 64-bit version of Windows installed or not. A lot of drivers don't work under 64-bit Windows. In that case, get a Linux LiveCD/LiveDVD, and flash the loader from there, since it does not require special drivers to flash under Linux.

just installed ubuntu linux on my laptop and now figuring out how linux works
once i figure out how to start op the dualboot via linux i will let you know
if i wont let you know i guess that means i didnt figure linux out yet ?'= (damn looks like my keyboard settings is?nt right either)

Hah just figured my keyboard settings :-) now the smiley does work!!

Frank 
In the archive is a readme file, that should explain how to install the bootloader under Linux.

Ignore all the idiots guides :P
Title: Re: given up on installing linux
Post by: Meneer Jansen on November 21, 2009, 02:55:30 pm
just installed ubuntu linux on my laptop and now figuring out how linux works.
Why do you want to install Linux on your PC? I use Linux per default, but for one particular step in the Dingux installation process I HAD to use WindowsXP. I don't remember what step, because the tutorial I used was deleted by a hacker named "Dan" in the old freeforums forum. If you read all the info available you'll see that Win Vista and up don't mount the SD card right (there is a solution, however).

[edit] It was 'The complete idiot's guide to installing Dingux'. (http://www.dingoo-scene.com/TheCompleteidiotsGuidetoDinguxWindoze.htm)

P.S. Stuck w/ Linux? Since you're Dutch: goto the Nedlinux forum (http://forum.nedlinux.nl/). :)
Title: Re: given up on installing linux
Post by: Meneer Jansen on November 21, 2009, 03:55:12 pm
Okay. For clarity:

(http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/5193/dualboot.th.jpg) (http://img21.imageshack.us/i/dualboot.jpg/)
Figure 1. The screen that does not appear on Frank Buse's Dingoo when trying to flash the nand chip.

Am I right? If so, I think the dual boot driver is not compatible w/ Windows Vista service pack XX 64 bit (dual processor?). If I were you I'd try to find some with a 32 bit version of WinXP. Probably the easiest option.
Title: Re: given up on installing linux
Post by: dgh on November 22, 2009, 03:52:22 am
Exact same thing is happening to me, I've tried xp on a P4, and Vista32 on a dual processor.

This is with a china chip model.

It seems that many people with a 'non-pawed' dingoo (china chip drivers) have this problem, and since this is the only model of dingoo to continue to be produced, the problem will only increase.

It is my opinion that a new dual boot installer and guide need to be produced for china chip dingoo's
Title: Re: given up on installing linux
Post by: Kalisiin on November 22, 2009, 04:01:56 am
Exact same thing is happening to me, I've tried xp on a P4, and Vista32 on a dual processor.

This is with a china chip model.

It seems that many people with a 'non-pawed' dingoo (china chip drivers) have this problem, and since this is the only model of dingoo to continue to be produced, the problem will only increase.

It is my opinion that a new dual boot installer and guide need to be produced for china chip dingoo's

I have PAWED Dingoo's with China Chips...and installed Dingux no problem.
You need to use XP.
Title: Re: given up on installing linux
Post by: Meneer Jansen on November 22, 2009, 01:47:24 pm
Exact same thing is happening to me, I've tried xp on a P4, and Vista32 on a dual processor. This is with a china chip model.
Did you REMOVE the Chinachip drivers like all guides say??
Title: Re: given up on installing linux
Post by: dgh on November 22, 2009, 06:20:59 pm
I followed the guides to a T, the new drivers are recognised and I enter the commands which appear to run successfully, but the dingoo screen stays blank, and this is on XP on two different computers.

Maybe I am not uninstalling the china chip drivers fully? Two set of drivers initially show up, I delete one set and I am prompted to restart the computer, should I restart? How can I permanently uninstall them?

I'd really appreciate some help, I have read other posts about people having and overcoming this problem, could anyone offer some advice?
Title: Re: given up on installing linux
Post by: Kalisiin on November 22, 2009, 06:39:51 pm
I followed the guides to a T, the new drivers are recognised and I enter the commands which appear to run successfully, but the dingoo screen stays blank, and this is on XP on two different computers.

Maybe I am not uninstalling the china chip drivers fully? Two set of drivers initially show up, I delete one set and I am prompted to restart the computer, should I restart? How can I permanently uninstall them?

I'd really appreciate some help, I have read other posts about people having and overcoming this problem, could anyone offer some advice?

Don't re-start the compy.  Nothing in any directions tells you to do that.  If you DO follow the directions correctly, you will permanently uninstall them, because you will re-install the new drivers as part of the process.

What you are looking to uninstall is called "Jz something" in your hardware list.  It's like 4 digits after the Jz.  Uninstall it.  THEN...reset Dingoo power and hold down B to put it in Rockbox mode, the Dingoo screen will stay black, but the power IS on.  Do this while staying hooked up to the USB line.

THEN....install your new drivers from the pack you downloaded...do it manually.  You should not have problems if you do it exactly like that.

If you re-start compy, it will try to automatically re-install the China chips...and also, if you unhook from USB...when you re-hook, it will try to automatically re-install China Chips for you.

That is why you do not re-start...or unhook from USB....until you have the new drivers - the ones in the pack you downloaded - installed.

Once they are installed, you're ok. 

Incidentally, the china Chips are still available and on your Dingoo...they just are there now as a backup or alternate driver, if your compy ever asks to install them, don't.

I believe everything I said here to be correct, please, anyone, if I mis-stated anything, please feel free to correct, as I, too, am rather new at all this...but this is my understanding of how it works.
Title: Re: given up on installing linux
Post by: dgh on November 22, 2009, 07:33:08 pm
Thankyou, I'll give it a try and post the results.
Title: Re: given up on installing linux
Post by: dgh on November 23, 2009, 01:19:49 am
Still no luck, I followed the guide by Kaxxx in another post, but I still get a blank screen.

I think that the problem lies in the fact that when I plug the Dingoo back in once the China Chip drivers have been removed, it is not recognised by the computer, I then attempt to run the installer and, maybe quite rightly - it does not run.

I have to do this on another pc as the China Chip drivers will not uninstall from mine, and I get a prompt to restart the computer when I try to.
Title: Re: given up on installing linux
Post by: dgh on November 23, 2009, 03:31:56 am
Got it installed, but it won't go past the dingux screen...
Title: Re: given up on installing linux
Post by: Goon8 on November 23, 2009, 04:11:18 am
Got it installed, but it won't go past the dingux screen...

2 pages of you giving up installing Dingux. You finally got it installed and have failed to mention how, or admit your fault or solution.. that's helpful.

Now you have got it running, did you follow the rest of the steps eg; downloading & extracting the latest local to your minisd card, changing the zimage files name, etc..? I would say you haven't but that'd be a guess to solve your problem, like the last two pages.


Title: Re: given up on installing linux
Post by: Azm0deus on November 23, 2009, 06:32:59 am
dgh, how did you make it? It could help me to get it installed too
Title: Re: given up on installing linux
Post by: frankbuse on November 23, 2009, 11:21:53 am
Okay. For clarity:
  • You use Windows Vista 64 bit
  • You have a pawed Dingoo w/ LCD screen 9331
  • You used the 'Idiot's guide' (http://www.dingoo-scene.com/TheCompleteidiotsGuidetoDinguxWindoze.htm) I referred to?
  • You removed the ChinaChip drivers via Windows' Device Manager (dunno what they've renamed it to in Win Vista/7)
  • The dual boot drivers for the Dingoo, that are referred to in the Guide, did install successfully? That is, the "new hardware found" dialog did not show up after installing aforementioned dual boot drivers?
  • In the guide you're stuck at step:
    • Chapter 3. Installing Dingux
    • A. Flash firmware
    • Flash firmware
    • 3. Initialize the nand flash
    Am I right?
  • The following command worked fine for you: "usbtool-win 1 hwinit.bin 0x80000000".
  • Then you copy/paste the following command in the Windows command prompt: "usbtool-win 1 zImage_dual_boot_installer_ILI9331  0x80600000".
  • After that, the Windows command prompt spits out a lot of non-understandable text.
  • And boom! You're stuck with a Dingoo with a black screen and not the white/blue screen (see picture below)?

(http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/5193/dualboot.th.jpg) (http://img21.imageshack.us/i/dualboot.jpg/)
Figure 1. The screen that does not appear on Frank Buse's Dingoo when trying to flash the nand chip.

Am I right? If so, I think the dual boot driver is not compatible w/ Windows Vista service pack XX 64 bit (dual processor?). If I were you I'd try to find some with a 32 bit version of WinXP. Probably the easiest option.

Thanks meneer Janssen that's exactly where i am stuck now
In the meantime i did install linux ubuntu on my laptop and figured out how it works and then also tried (via terminal) to install dualboot and still the dingoo remains black like you said.

I also think my only other option is to try installing via another pc

Frank
Title: Re: given up on installing linux
Post by: dgh on November 23, 2009, 12:23:44 pm
Goon, it isn't two pages of me, I merely jumped in the thread with the same problem as the original poster.

However, I didn't do anything different than I usually did, and it installed, I was awake until 5.00am gmt trying to get it to work - I used the Idiots Guide as I have done all along on my own pc running XP.

Title: Re: given up on installing linux
Post by: dgh on November 23, 2009, 12:26:34 pm
I haven't re-named the zimage yet so I'll try that and report back, thanks for everyone's advice.

Title: Re: given up on installing linux
Post by: Meneer Jansen on November 23, 2009, 12:52:19 pm
I haven't re-named the zimage yet so I'll try that and report back, thanks for everyone's advice.
That is literally in the guide (http://www.dingoo-scene.com/TheCompleteidiotsGuidetoDinguxWindoze.htm)! That's it for me, I quit. I tried my best, but failed. :'(
Title: Re: given up on installing linux
Post by: dgh on November 23, 2009, 12:58:02 pm
It is in the guide, but I downloaded local 32a, and cant find the zimage , rootfs, do I have to upgrade from local10 to 32a and will local10 contain the files that I need?
Title: Re: given up on installing linux
Post by: Meneer Jansen on November 23, 2009, 01:26:13 pm
Thanks meneer Janssen that's exactly where i am stuck now. In the meantime i did install linux ubuntu on my laptop and figured out how it works and then also tried (via terminal) to install dualboot and still the dingoo remains black like you said. I also think my only other option is to try installing via another pc.
Okay. Yhe ony difference between the Linux and the Windows method (as far as I can see) is that in (Ubuntu) Linux you do not have to uninstall and reinstall drivers to get one's PC to get to recognise the Dingoo (i.e. the Dingoo mounts correctly per default in 'Buntu 9.04 and up). Now there are two possibilities left:

1. The tool made by Booboo to make the Dingoo dual boot (dual_boot_installer_20090628.zip (http://dingoo-linux.googlecode.com/files/dual_boot_installer_20090628.zip)) really does not work on a 64 bit machine (Windows or Linux).
2. You made a little typo in a command or made a tiny mistake in one of the necessary steps in the (Linux) Guide (http://www.dingoo-scene.com/TheCompleteidiotsGuidetoDingux1.htm).

Important are the following steps (Linux):
Code: [Select]
./usbtool-linux 1 hwinit.bin 0x80000000
Code: [Select]
./usbtool-linux zImage_dual_boot_installer_ILI9331 0x80600000
(http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/5193/dualboot.th.jpg) (http://img21.imageshack.us/i/dualboot.jpg/)
Figure 1. See this screen? Then dual boot is only minute away!

Success :)
Title: Re: given up on installing linux
Post by: Kalisiin on November 23, 2009, 01:26:35 pm
Still no luck, I followed the guide by Kaxxx in another post, but I still get a blank screen.

I think that the problem lies in the fact that when I plug the Dingoo back in once the China Chip drivers have been removed, it is not recognised by the computer, I then attempt to run the installer and, maybe quite rightly - it does not run.

I have to do this on another pc as the China Chip drivers will not uninstall from mine, and I get a prompt to restart the computer when I try to.

I TRIED TO TELL YOU...
Do you see it in my instructions??  DON'T UNPLUG FROM USB AFTER UNINSTALLING THE CHIPS!!

Stay plaugged in, hit your reset and hold B to go into Rockbox mode, and your screen will stay black but the power will be on.
At that point the China Chips are NOT accessible by the Dingoo, and it is your opportunity to replace them.

I tried.
I give up...this guy can't follow instructions, I can't help him.
Title: Re: given up on installing linux
Post by: dgh on November 23, 2009, 01:33:45 pm
I did get it installed, and I followed your instructions, the procedure didnt work for a few times at first though, now it has.

I get a kernel failure when I start up dingux now, I guess I'll have to re format the sd card.
Title: Re: given up on installing linux
Post by: Meneer Jansen on November 23, 2009, 01:41:44 pm
It is in the guide, but I downloaded local 32a, and cant find the zimage , rootfs, do I have to upgrade from local10 to 32a and will local10 contain the files that I need?
Okay, agreed. That may not be the clearest of steps. If I am not mistaken the zimage file is the root system. I'm trying to find out if Toddler's local pack (see this topic (http://boards.dingoonity.org/dingux-games-and-homebrew/dingux-local-pack-v0-31/)) does contain the zimage files for the 25 and the 31 screens. But Megaupload (where Toddler's pack is laid to rest) seems not to be one of the fastest websites on the planet... [edit] Wait a minute. Toddlers 0.32a pack is 64 MB and the 'regular' 0.32 file is 249 MB. Guess you need the 0.32 one. The "a" pack must be an upgrade only. ;)

So if there is no zimage file in the pack you downloaded, try to down an earlier version and upgrade if you want to. I'm still using ver. 0.28 and I'm happy with it. I did, however, install a lot of extra apps etc. since.

Success :)

[edit02] added some letters that my keyboard did not print on screen... ooops.
Title: Re: given up on installing linux
Post by: Meneer Jansen on November 23, 2009, 01:46:18 pm
I get a kernel failure when I start up dingux now, I guess I'll have to re format the sd card.
Most probably because Linux (i.e. Dunux) is not installed yet. The actual Dingux operating system is very tiny. And it resides in one singe file that is looked up by your all new and improved Firmware (a sort of BIOS) if one presses 'Select' during boot. If there is no kernel, root file system etc. (all of which are in 'zimage') your Dingoo will panic and it will try to cry out to you in the only way it knows how: via an error on the command line. ;)

Success :)
Title: Re: given up on installing linux
Post by: dgh on November 23, 2009, 02:26:50 pm
I've got the zimage and rootfs file on the root of the sd card, I have downloaded local 32, do I put the extracted local folder onto the sd card, or do I put the contents of the local folder onto the card. If I want to upgrade to 32a, what will I add to the sd card from the extracted folder - its contents and overwrite any older files with new?
Title: Re: given up on installing linux
Post by: Meneer Jansen on November 23, 2009, 02:53:47 pm
You should keep the directory structure intact. In Toddlers local zip file should be 2 'zimage' files (one for the 25- and one for the 31 LCD screen), a file called 'rootfs' and a folder called 'local'. You should copy those files and the folder to your SD card, and rename one of the zimage-ILI93XX files to 'zimage'. Then boot the Dingoo, press 'Select' once during the Dingux splash screen and pray that it works. ;)

Success. :)

P.S. Afterwards, before disconnecting the Dingoo from USB, on Linux don't forget to issue the command 'sync' from the command line, or in Windows use 'Safly remove hardware'. Else, not all files may be copied (synchronized) to the SD card!
P.S.2 Upgrading means overwriting older files with the new ones, yes.
Title: Re: given up on installing linux
Post by: dgh on November 23, 2009, 11:34:24 pm
I have got it working, thanks for the advice, but the dual boot installer seemed very hit and miss, when I got it installed finally, all I did was follow the same set of instructions that I always had (Idiots Guide).

I think I must have missed a vital part of the guide at some point!

I definitely found problems in removing the china chip drivers, and encountered occurrences not present in any guide that i guess are unique to my pc.
Title: Re: given up on installing linux
Post by: Bouvrie on November 24, 2009, 06:40:00 am
Right, once the dualboot is installed, check out my FAQ/Troubleshooting topic for more help getting Dingux itself up and running. Should at least help a bit with commonly found problems. :)
Title: Re: given up on installing linux
Post by: Meneer Jansen on November 24, 2009, 01:28:04 pm
I definitely found problems in removing the china chip drivers,
Thats strange. I didn't have any probs. Simply used the Device Manager to remove the old driver, like I always do if I want to reinstall drivers in Windows (XP). Important thing is to realize that Windows always tries to install a driver itself if one plugs in a piece of (new) hardware. Also it's important to realize that Win sometimes has a habit to reinstall an old (that is: a previously removed!) driver when you plug in a piece of hardware, seemingly without warning. Therefore, in the case of USB devices (like the Dingoo and printers etc.), one must install its driver before plugging it in. That's also the reason that in the guides one is urged to not unplug the Dingoo after un-installing the Chinachip driver via the Dev. Man. Windows always keeps a copy of its drivers in a secret place "just in case".  :)
Title: Re: given up on installing linux
Post by: Kalisiin on November 24, 2009, 01:47:13 pm
I definitely found problems in removing the china chip drivers,
Thats strange. I didn't have any probs. Simply used the Device Manager to remove the old driver, like I always do if I want to reinstall drivers in Windows (XP). Important thing is to realize that Windows always tries to install a driver itself if one plugs in a piece of (new) hardware. Also it's important to realize that Win sometimes has a habit to reinstall an old (that is: a previously removed!) driver when you plug in a piece of hardware, seemingly without warning. Therefore, in the case of USB devices (like the Dingoo and printers etc.), one must install its driver before plugging it in. That's also the reason that in the guides one is urged to not unplug the Dingoo after un-installing the Chinachip driver via the Dev. Man. Windows always keeps a copy of its drivers in a secret place "just in case".  :)

Exactly!
Give this man a cigar!
This is precisely why I told him not to unhook from USB after uninstalling the China Chips...but to, instead, while remaining hooked up...hit the reset while holding down B to put it direct into Rockbox mode, so that you could then immediately install the new drivers from the pack you download!
It (Windows) won't try to install the China Chip drivers IF something else is already there...that's why you don't want it to detect new hardware until you get the new drivers in...and that is why you don't want to disconnect from USB after uninstalling China Chips.
Title: Re: given up on installing linux
Post by: Meneer Jansen on November 24, 2009, 05:45:03 pm
Exactly!
Give this man a cigar!
Thanks, but I'd rather have some karma. Quit smoking a while ago. Hi hi  ;D
Title: Re: given up on installing linux
Post by: frankbuse on November 27, 2009, 08:58:24 pm
Thanks meneer Janssen that's exactly where i am stuck now. In the meantime i did install linux ubuntu on my laptop and figured out how it works and then also tried (via terminal) to install dualboot and still the dingoo remains black like you said. I also think my only other option is to try installing via another pc.
Okay. Yhe ony difference between the Linux and the Windows method (as far as I can see) is that in (Ubuntu) Linux you do not have to uninstall and reinstall drivers to get one's PC to get to recognise the Dingoo (i.e. the Dingoo mounts correctly per default in 'Buntu 9.04 and up). Now there are two possibilities left:

1. The tool made by Booboo to make the Dingoo dual boot (dual_boot_installer_20090628.zip (http://dingoo-linux.googlecode.com/files/dual_boot_installer_20090628.zip)) really does not work on a 64 bit machine (Windows or Linux).
2. You made a little typo in a command or made a tiny mistake in one of the necessary steps in the (Linux) Guide (http://www.dingoo-scene.com/TheCompleteidiotsGuidetoDingux1.htm).

Important are the following steps (Linux):
  • Put Dingoo in USB boot mode (reset while holding the B pressed). The Dingoo LCD will remain dark. Plug Dingoo in.
  • Wait for the Dingoo to appear on Ubuntu's desktop (i.e. it will auto mount).
  • Copy/paste the following command in a terminal:
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./usbtool-linux 1 hwinit.bin 0x80000000
  • It should run successfully, i.e. the command terminal should return some sort of message with the word "success" in it (tip: copy/paste this message here in this forum when you reply again :)).
  • Copy/paste the second command in the terminal window:
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./usbtool-linux zImage_dual_boot_installer_ILI9331 0x80600000
    (the "31" is important: you have the later LCD screen, not the earlier "25" one).
    • If you are very lucky you'll see the screen in Figure 1. If not, copy/paste the error message in this forum.

(http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/5193/dualboot.th.jpg) (http://img21.imageshack.us/i/dualboot.jpg/)
Figure 1. See this screen? Then dual boot is only minute away!

Success :)

thnx meneer Janssen everything goes fine and no error messages,but the screen of my dingoo just remains black[/list]
Title: Re: given up on installing linux
Post by: Kalisiin on November 27, 2009, 09:25:30 pm

thnx meneer Janssen everything goes fine and no error messages,but the screen of my dingoo just remains black[/list]

You wouldn't, by any chance, be holding down B when you are powering on, wouldya?

That would cause the screen to remain totally black.

That, or check your brightness controls.
Title: Re: given up on installing linux
Post by: Meneer Jansen on November 28, 2009, 12:14:44 pm
thnx meneer Janssen everything goes fine and no error messages,but the screen of my dingoo just remains black.
That's a pity, Frank. :'( Could you post the messages you get on the terminal from the two commands in my post here? Did you know one can select text and copy/paste with CTRL-Shift + C and V in a terminal (just use ctrl + V in Firefox)? And if there were really no errors, then conclusion No. 1 in my post my be true: the dual boot tool is not 64 bit compatible... This info may be very important for other people and may be incorporated in the FAQ and guides.

For the time being: the only thing you can do is to look for a friend or family member who still has a 32 bit machine (preferably w/ WinXP or Linux, Vista and Win7 may also give some troubles).

Succes :)
Title: Re: given up on installing linux
Post by: Shred on November 28, 2009, 12:46:00 pm
thnx meneer Janssen everything goes fine and no error messages,but the screen of my dingoo just remains black[/list]

A black screen generally points to the Drivers not being installed correctly and/or not entering USB mode properly on the Dingoo.

Can you provide a screenshot of the command prompt when you are using the dual boot installer?
Title: Re: given up on installing linux
Post by: dgh on December 16, 2009, 11:48:38 pm
After managing to install Dingux on my wifes Dingoo, I have now attempted to install it on mine, but after entering the second command line usbtool closes reporting an error, I have tried to install on two different pc's with the same results.

This was a problem that happened with the first dingoo, but one day the installation simply worked, but I have no idea why.

Does anyone have a suggestion to get past this sticking point?
Title: Re: given up on installing linux
Post by: Bouvrie on December 17, 2009, 06:55:05 am
"reporting an error".

Any details? :p
Title: Re: given up on installing linux
Post by: dgh on December 17, 2009, 01:58:12 pm
The second command line does not complete, the pc then appears to be doing something but a window pops up saying that usbtool has encountered a problem and needs to close.

The error signature reads:

Appname: usbtool-win.exe

AppVer:0.0.0.0

ModName:ntdll.dll

ModVer:5.1.2600.5755

Offset:0000100b

The problem seems that the pc is not recognising the dingoo in boot mode, and I have tried the reset and B and also the power off and B boot modes.

I have run the installer semi successfully before on this dingoo, but I could not load dingux as I had to reformat the card (mounting error). I tried the reformatted card on a second dingoo and it works fine with that one, so the problem is not with the card, but the apparent link between the pc and dingoo.
Title: Re: given up on installing linux
Post by: Meneer Jansen on December 17, 2009, 03:31:01 pm
That's strange. Can you successfully copy files to the problematic Dingoo?  That is, to the SD card as well as to the internal memory? This is to check if there is nothing wrong with the USB cable and connection.

If you tried rebooting your PC and resetting the Dingoo to USB "boot mode" several times (while it DOES work w/ another Dingoo) I think there may be something wrong w/ your Dingoo... Strange ....  ???
Title: Re: given up on installing linux
Post by: dgh on December 17, 2009, 11:03:03 pm
This is a problem that I had with my wifes dingoo, but one day the installation just worked out of the blue.

With this one (mine), the installation worked first time, however I didnt re-format the sd card properly and I had the mounting error.  I reformatted the card (using cmd format from the FAQ), checked it with my wifes dingoo and it booted fine, so I tried to re-install dingux on my dingoo and I keep running into this usbtool problem.

I connect the dingoo to the pc and both drives are detected fine. If I connect in boot mode, the drivers (rockbox) are recognised but the dingoo's storage and the sd card do not show up as detected, and I think this is why dingux doesnt install.

I did uninstall the rockbox drivers and try a full reinstallation, but the same problem occurs - maybe it is unique to my pc?

It appears as if the dingoo is not being recognised properly when in boot mode ( and i tried reset and B, and power off and B) thus preventing a successful installation.

The thing that baffles me is that I ran into this problem before and it solved itself through dumb luck, so I don't have anything to go on to solve it.

Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: given up on installing linux
Post by: Meneer Jansen on December 18, 2009, 11:39:30 am
To make your Dingoo "dual boot" one does not have to have the SD card inserted, I think. And I think that you are trying to make a Dingoo that is already dual boot, dual boot for tha second time. This is not necessary I think. The only thing you need to do is to copy the Linux kernel (i.e. zimage) and the root file system (i.e. the file called "rootfs") to a fat32 formatted SD card. Then press "select" once if you see the "Dinux" text in the splash screen during boot.

Do you see the word "Dingux" during the booting of the troublesome Dingoo? If so then you do not need to do run the "dual boot" utility again not do you have to connect your Dingoo with B pressed...

Good luck :)
Title: Re: given up on installing linux
Post by: Kalisiin on December 18, 2009, 06:27:14 pm
To make your Dingoo "dual boot" one does not have to have the SD card inserted, I think. And I think that you are trying to make a Dingoo that is already dual boot, dual boot for tha second time. This is not necessary I think. The only thing you need to do is to copy the Linux kernel (i.e. zimage) and the root file system (i.e. the file called "rootfs") to a fat32 formatted SD card. Then press "select" once if you see the "Dinux" text in the splash screen during boot.

Do you see the word "Dingux" during the booting of the troublesome Dingoo? If so then you do not need to do run the "dual boot" utility again not do you have to connect your Dingoo with B pressed...

Good luck :)

Having it on the SD card, as I understand, is not enough...you also have to flash the internal memory so that it knows that it CAN dual-boot.
Title: Re: given up on installing linux
Post by: Meneer Jansen on December 18, 2009, 07:45:42 pm
Having it on the SD card, as I understand, is not enough...you also have to flash the internal memory so that it knows that it CAN dual-boot.
Thing is, I think he already succeeded in that.
Title: Re: given up on installing linux
Post by: dgh on December 19, 2009, 12:06:48 am
Using the idiots guide, I had gotten to the point where I was supposed to run the command lines, which ran first time (however red text appeared with the white on the dingoo screen) and the grey dingux screens begin to appear.

On the last page I am prompted that there is a problem and that I may have to reinstall my firmware, and I am unable to then access dingux as a result.

However, when I press select and reset, the dingoo displays the black dingux.com screen. Thinking this may be a fault with the sd card, I tried another from a working dinguxed dingoo which had the same effect. I checked both sd cards with a working dingux dingoo, and they both booted up.

I did a search to see if anybody else had my problem and found this thread, but it has no conclusive result:

http://www.dingux.com/2009/08/new-release-of-dualboot-and-system.html

When I try to run through the idiots guide again for a fresh install, I can install the Rockbox drivers successfully, then later when I enter the second command line, it doesn't complete and the usbtool.exe error window pops up.



Title: Re: given up on installing linux
Post by: Kalisiin on December 19, 2009, 12:54:07 am
I dunno.
I can't help you.

I'm a complete freaking total idiot, and I got it right, first time, with the Idiot's guide.
Title: Re: given up on installing linux
Post by: Meneer Jansen on December 20, 2009, 02:05:21 pm
Hmmm. If it works for one Dingoo and fails for the other, then there may be something wrong with the first Dingoo. Maybe a few bits of the nand flash chip are corrupted? Never heard of such a problem. I'm sorry, I can't help you further...  :'(
Title: Re: given up on installing linux
Post by: dgh on December 20, 2009, 06:36:50 pm
OK, I have managed to get it working...

First, I re-downloaded the dual boot installer and extracted the files. Then I uninstalled the rockbox drivers from the pc.

I put the dingoo into boot mode and was prompted by the hardware wizard, and I re-installed the rockbox drivers.

I disconnected the dingoo from the pc, reset it, then put it back into boot mode with B/reset, connected it back to the pc and ran the two command lines which then ran fully as per the guide (they didn't before).

However, Dingux didn't run and I only had a black screen,  this is the problem that I also had with my first dingoo. I tried the above process a couple of more times without success.

I remembered reading in the FAQ about putting the dingoo into boot mode with B/power off as opposed to using the reset button, and then running the command lines, so I re did the process above including this alternate step, and this time it worked without any error.

I hope this information helps others who may be having similar problems, and thanks to everyone who offered me their advice.
Title: Re: given up on installing linux
Post by: Meneer Jansen on December 20, 2009, 06:58:00 pm
Glad you solved it! This means that one always has to try B + Reset AND B + Power on before giving up. :)
Title: Re: given up on installing linux
Post by: astroboyqu on December 20, 2009, 08:52:50 pm
I followed the guides to a T, the new drivers are recognised and I enter the commands which appear to run successfully, but the dingoo screen stays blank, and this is on XP on two different computers.

Maybe I am not uninstalling the china chip drivers fully? Two set of drivers initially show up, I delete one set and I am prompted to restart the computer, should I restart? How can I permanently uninstall them?

I'd really appreciate some help, I have read other posts about people having and overcoming this problem, could anyone offer some advice?

Don't re-start the compy.  Nothing in any directions tells you to do that.  If you DO follow the directions correctly, you will permanently uninstall them, because you will re-install the new drivers as part of the process.

What you are looking to uninstall is called "Jz something" in your hardware list.  It's like 4 digits after the Jz.  Uninstall it.  THEN...reset Dingoo power and hold down B to put it in Rockbox mode, the Dingoo screen will stay black, but the power IS on.  Do this while staying hooked up to the USB line.

THEN....install your new drivers from the pack you downloaded...do it manually.  You should not have problems if you do it exactly like that.

If you re-start compy, it will try to automatically re-install the China chips...and also, if you unhook from USB...when you re-hook, it will try to automatically re-install China Chips for you.

That is why you do not re-start...or unhook from USB....until you have the new drivers - the ones in the pack you downloaded - installed.

Once they are installed, you're ok. 

Incidentally, the china Chips are still available and on your Dingoo...they just are there now as a backup or alternate driver, if your compy ever asks to install them, don't.

I believe everything I said here to be correct, please, anyone, if I mis-stated anything, please feel free to correct, as I, too, am rather new at all this...but this is my understanding of how it works.

Thank you soo soo soo so sososososososososososos very much! after a few days of trying to figure it out this was the solution!
Title: Re: given up on installing linux
Post by: Meneer Jansen on December 21, 2009, 01:03:17 pm
Thank you soo soo soo so sososososososososososos very much! after a few days of trying to figure it out this was the solution!
If I'm not mistaken that's literally in the tutorials available.
Title: Re: given up on installing linux
Post by: Kalisiin on December 21, 2009, 02:38:20 pm
Thank you soo soo soo so sososososososososososos very much! after a few days of trying to figure it out this was the solution!
If I'm not mistaken that's literally in the tutorials available.

Pretty much, yes, it is...but it isn't spelled out quite so clearly.  I just really spelled out the process and broke it down, literally holding the hand of the reader, step by step...which most of the manuals don't really do.

@ astro - No problem, I am glad I was able to help!
Title: Re: given up on installing linux
Post by: Goon8 on December 22, 2009, 01:34:50 am
If you think it's not spelled out clearly enough Kalisiin you should maybe update the WIKI.. That's why it's there. Might stop the constant stream of users saying things don't work, or more then likely, it won't.  :'(

http://dingoowiki.com/index.php/Dingux:About (http://dingoowiki.com/index.php/Dingux:About)

Title: Re: given up on installing linux
Post by: Kalisiin on December 22, 2009, 02:24:29 pm
If you think it's not spelled out clearly enough Kalisiin you should maybe update the WIKI.. That's why it's there. Might stop the constant stream of users saying things don't work, or more then likely, it won't.  :'(

http://dingoowiki.com/index.php/Dingux:About (http://dingoowiki.com/index.php/Dingux:About)



Well, I'd be happy to do it sometime.  I never knew I had the authority to do that.