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Bouvrie

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Re: given up on installing linux
« Reply #40 on: November 24, 2009, 06:40:00 am »
Right, once the dualboot is installed, check out my FAQ/Troubleshooting topic for more help getting Dingux itself up and running. Should at least help a bit with commonly found problems. :)
Write/save problems? Segmentation faults? Black screens? Read the Troubleshooting and FAQ guide first to fix your issues! :)
SD Card readonly/corruption issues? Chkdisk /F and steer clear from DMenu: use GMenu instead!

Meneer Jansen

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Re: given up on installing linux
« Reply #41 on: November 24, 2009, 01:28:04 pm »
I definitely found problems in removing the china chip drivers,
Thats strange. I didn't have any probs. Simply used the Device Manager to remove the old driver, like I always do if I want to reinstall drivers in Windows (XP). Important thing is to realize that Windows always tries to install a driver itself if one plugs in a piece of (new) hardware. Also it's important to realize that Win sometimes has a habit to reinstall an old (that is: a previously removed!) driver when you plug in a piece of hardware, seemingly without warning. Therefore, in the case of USB devices (like the Dingoo and printers etc.), one must install its driver before plugging it in. That's also the reason that in the guides one is urged to not unplug the Dingoo after un-installing the Chinachip driver via the Dev. Man. Windows always keeps a copy of its drivers in a secret place "just in case".  :)
Finally got me a new Dingoo after I Kentucky ~~::fried::~~ the other one. Yippee! [edit] And lost it!

Kalisiin

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Re: given up on installing linux
« Reply #42 on: November 24, 2009, 01:47:13 pm »
I definitely found problems in removing the china chip drivers,
Thats strange. I didn't have any probs. Simply used the Device Manager to remove the old driver, like I always do if I want to reinstall drivers in Windows (XP). Important thing is to realize that Windows always tries to install a driver itself if one plugs in a piece of (new) hardware. Also it's important to realize that Win sometimes has a habit to reinstall an old (that is: a previously removed!) driver when you plug in a piece of hardware, seemingly without warning. Therefore, in the case of USB devices (like the Dingoo and printers etc.), one must install its driver before plugging it in. That's also the reason that in the guides one is urged to not unplug the Dingoo after un-installing the Chinachip driver via the Dev. Man. Windows always keeps a copy of its drivers in a secret place "just in case".  :)

Exactly!
Give this man a cigar!
This is precisely why I told him not to unhook from USB after uninstalling the China Chips...but to, instead, while remaining hooked up...hit the reset while holding down B to put it direct into Rockbox mode, so that you could then immediately install the new drivers from the pack you download!
It (Windows) won't try to install the China Chip drivers IF something else is already there...that's why you don't want it to detect new hardware until you get the new drivers in...and that is why you don't want to disconnect from USB after uninstalling China Chips.

Meneer Jansen

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Re: given up on installing linux
« Reply #43 on: November 24, 2009, 05:45:03 pm »
Exactly!
Give this man a cigar!
Thanks, but I'd rather have some karma. Quit smoking a while ago. Hi hi  ;D
Finally got me a new Dingoo after I Kentucky ~~::fried::~~ the other one. Yippee! [edit] And lost it!

frankbuse

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Re: given up on installing linux
« Reply #44 on: November 27, 2009, 08:58:24 pm »
Thanks meneer Janssen that's exactly where i am stuck now. In the meantime i did install linux ubuntu on my laptop and figured out how it works and then also tried (via terminal) to install dualboot and still the dingoo remains black like you said. I also think my only other option is to try installing via another pc.
Okay. Yhe ony difference between the Linux and the Windows method (as far as I can see) is that in (Ubuntu) Linux you do not have to uninstall and reinstall drivers to get one's PC to get to recognise the Dingoo (i.e. the Dingoo mounts correctly per default in 'Buntu 9.04 and up). Now there are two possibilities left:

1. The tool made by Booboo to make the Dingoo dual boot (dual_boot_installer_20090628.zip) really does not work on a 64 bit machine (Windows or Linux).
2. You made a little typo in a command or made a tiny mistake in one of the necessary steps in the (Linux) Guide.

Important are the following steps (Linux):
  • Put Dingoo in USB boot mode (reset while holding the B pressed). The Dingoo LCD will remain dark. Plug Dingoo in.
  • Wait for the Dingoo to appear on Ubuntu's desktop (i.e. it will auto mount).
  • Copy/paste the following command in a terminal:
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./usbtool-linux 1 hwinit.bin 0x80000000
  • It should run successfully, i.e. the command terminal should return some sort of message with the word "success" in it (tip: copy/paste this message here in this forum when you reply again :)).
  • Copy/paste the second command in the terminal window:
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./usbtool-linux zImage_dual_boot_installer_ILI9331 0x80600000
    (the "31" is important: you have the later LCD screen, not the earlier "25" one).
    • If you are very lucky you'll see the screen in Figure 1. If not, copy/paste the error message in this forum.


Figure 1. See this screen? Then dual boot is only minute away!

Success :)

thnx meneer Janssen everything goes fine and no error messages,but the screen of my dingoo just remains black[/list]

Kalisiin

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Re: given up on installing linux
« Reply #45 on: November 27, 2009, 09:25:30 pm »

    thnx meneer Janssen everything goes fine and no error messages,but the screen of my dingoo just remains black[/list]

    You wouldn't, by any chance, be holding down B when you are powering on, wouldya?

    That would cause the screen to remain totally black.

    That, or check your brightness controls.

    Meneer Jansen

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    Re: given up on installing linux
    « Reply #46 on: November 28, 2009, 12:14:44 pm »
    thnx meneer Janssen everything goes fine and no error messages,but the screen of my dingoo just remains black.
    That's a pity, Frank. :'( Could you post the messages you get on the terminal from the two commands in my post here? Did you know one can select text and copy/paste with CTRL-Shift + C and V in a terminal (just use ctrl + V in Firefox)? And if there were really no errors, then conclusion No. 1 in my post my be true: the dual boot tool is not 64 bit compatible... This info may be very important for other people and may be incorporated in the FAQ and guides.

    For the time being: the only thing you can do is to look for a friend or family member who still has a 32 bit machine (preferably w/ WinXP or Linux, Vista and Win7 may also give some troubles).

    Succes :)
    Finally got me a new Dingoo after I Kentucky ~~::fried::~~ the other one. Yippee! [edit] And lost it!

    Shred

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    Re: given up on installing linux
    « Reply #47 on: November 28, 2009, 12:46:00 pm »
      thnx meneer Janssen everything goes fine and no error messages,but the screen of my dingoo just remains black[/list]

      A black screen generally points to the Drivers not being installed correctly and/or not entering USB mode properly on the Dingoo.

      Can you provide a screenshot of the command prompt when you are using the dual boot installer?

      dgh

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      Re: given up on installing linux
      « Reply #48 on: December 16, 2009, 11:48:38 pm »
      After managing to install Dingux on my wifes Dingoo, I have now attempted to install it on mine, but after entering the second command line usbtool closes reporting an error, I have tried to install on two different pc's with the same results.

      This was a problem that happened with the first dingoo, but one day the installation simply worked, but I have no idea why.

      Does anyone have a suggestion to get past this sticking point?

      Bouvrie

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      Re: given up on installing linux
      « Reply #49 on: December 17, 2009, 06:55:05 am »
      "reporting an error".

      Any details? :p
      Write/save problems? Segmentation faults? Black screens? Read the Troubleshooting and FAQ guide first to fix your issues! :)
      SD Card readonly/corruption issues? Chkdisk /F and steer clear from DMenu: use GMenu instead!

      dgh

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      Re: given up on installing linux
      « Reply #50 on: December 17, 2009, 01:58:12 pm »
      The second command line does not complete, the pc then appears to be doing something but a window pops up saying that usbtool has encountered a problem and needs to close.

      The error signature reads:

      Appname: usbtool-win.exe

      AppVer:0.0.0.0

      ModName:ntdll.dll

      ModVer:5.1.2600.5755

      Offset:0000100b

      The problem seems that the pc is not recognising the dingoo in boot mode, and I have tried the reset and B and also the power off and B boot modes.

      I have run the installer semi successfully before on this dingoo, but I could not load dingux as I had to reformat the card (mounting error). I tried the reformatted card on a second dingoo and it works fine with that one, so the problem is not with the card, but the apparent link between the pc and dingoo.

      Meneer Jansen

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      Re: given up on installing linux
      « Reply #51 on: December 17, 2009, 03:31:01 pm »
      That's strange. Can you successfully copy files to the problematic Dingoo?  That is, to the SD card as well as to the internal memory? This is to check if there is nothing wrong with the USB cable and connection.

      If you tried rebooting your PC and resetting the Dingoo to USB "boot mode" several times (while it DOES work w/ another Dingoo) I think there may be something wrong w/ your Dingoo... Strange ....  ???
      Finally got me a new Dingoo after I Kentucky ~~::fried::~~ the other one. Yippee! [edit] And lost it!

      dgh

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      Re: given up on installing linux
      « Reply #52 on: December 17, 2009, 11:03:03 pm »
      This is a problem that I had with my wifes dingoo, but one day the installation just worked out of the blue.

      With this one (mine), the installation worked first time, however I didnt re-format the sd card properly and I had the mounting error.  I reformatted the card (using cmd format from the FAQ), checked it with my wifes dingoo and it booted fine, so I tried to re-install dingux on my dingoo and I keep running into this usbtool problem.

      I connect the dingoo to the pc and both drives are detected fine. If I connect in boot mode, the drivers (rockbox) are recognised but the dingoo's storage and the sd card do not show up as detected, and I think this is why dingux doesnt install.

      I did uninstall the rockbox drivers and try a full reinstallation, but the same problem occurs - maybe it is unique to my pc?

      It appears as if the dingoo is not being recognised properly when in boot mode ( and i tried reset and B, and power off and B) thus preventing a successful installation.

      The thing that baffles me is that I ran into this problem before and it solved itself through dumb luck, so I don't have anything to go on to solve it.

      Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.

      Meneer Jansen

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      Re: given up on installing linux
      « Reply #53 on: December 18, 2009, 11:39:30 am »
      To make your Dingoo "dual boot" one does not have to have the SD card inserted, I think. And I think that you are trying to make a Dingoo that is already dual boot, dual boot for tha second time. This is not necessary I think. The only thing you need to do is to copy the Linux kernel (i.e. zimage) and the root file system (i.e. the file called "rootfs") to a fat32 formatted SD card. Then press "select" once if you see the "Dinux" text in the splash screen during boot.

      Do you see the word "Dingux" during the booting of the troublesome Dingoo? If so then you do not need to do run the "dual boot" utility again not do you have to connect your Dingoo with B pressed...

      Good luck :)
      Finally got me a new Dingoo after I Kentucky ~~::fried::~~ the other one. Yippee! [edit] And lost it!

      Kalisiin

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      Re: given up on installing linux
      « Reply #54 on: December 18, 2009, 06:27:14 pm »
      To make your Dingoo "dual boot" one does not have to have the SD card inserted, I think. And I think that you are trying to make a Dingoo that is already dual boot, dual boot for tha second time. This is not necessary I think. The only thing you need to do is to copy the Linux kernel (i.e. zimage) and the root file system (i.e. the file called "rootfs") to a fat32 formatted SD card. Then press "select" once if you see the "Dinux" text in the splash screen during boot.

      Do you see the word "Dingux" during the booting of the troublesome Dingoo? If so then you do not need to do run the "dual boot" utility again not do you have to connect your Dingoo with B pressed...

      Good luck :)

      Having it on the SD card, as I understand, is not enough...you also have to flash the internal memory so that it knows that it CAN dual-boot.

      Meneer Jansen

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      Re: given up on installing linux
      « Reply #55 on: December 18, 2009, 07:45:42 pm »
      Having it on the SD card, as I understand, is not enough...you also have to flash the internal memory so that it knows that it CAN dual-boot.
      Thing is, I think he already succeeded in that.
      Finally got me a new Dingoo after I Kentucky ~~::fried::~~ the other one. Yippee! [edit] And lost it!

      dgh

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      Re: given up on installing linux
      « Reply #56 on: December 19, 2009, 12:06:48 am »
      Using the idiots guide, I had gotten to the point where I was supposed to run the command lines, which ran first time (however red text appeared with the white on the dingoo screen) and the grey dingux screens begin to appear.

      On the last page I am prompted that there is a problem and that I may have to reinstall my firmware, and I am unable to then access dingux as a result.

      However, when I press select and reset, the dingoo displays the black dingux.com screen. Thinking this may be a fault with the sd card, I tried another from a working dinguxed dingoo which had the same effect. I checked both sd cards with a working dingux dingoo, and they both booted up.

      I did a search to see if anybody else had my problem and found this thread, but it has no conclusive result:

      http://www.dingux.com/2009/08/new-release-of-dualboot-and-system.html

      When I try to run through the idiots guide again for a fresh install, I can install the Rockbox drivers successfully, then later when I enter the second command line, it doesn't complete and the usbtool.exe error window pops up.




      Kalisiin

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      Re: given up on installing linux
      « Reply #57 on: December 19, 2009, 12:54:07 am »
      I dunno.
      I can't help you.

      I'm a complete freaking total idiot, and I got it right, first time, with the Idiot's guide.

      Meneer Jansen

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      Re: given up on installing linux
      « Reply #58 on: December 20, 2009, 02:05:21 pm »
      Hmmm. If it works for one Dingoo and fails for the other, then there may be something wrong with the first Dingoo. Maybe a few bits of the nand flash chip are corrupted? Never heard of such a problem. I'm sorry, I can't help you further...  :'(
      Finally got me a new Dingoo after I Kentucky ~~::fried::~~ the other one. Yippee! [edit] And lost it!

      dgh

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      Re: given up on installing linux
      « Reply #59 on: December 20, 2009, 06:36:50 pm »
      OK, I have managed to get it working...

      First, I re-downloaded the dual boot installer and extracted the files. Then I uninstalled the rockbox drivers from the pc.

      I put the dingoo into boot mode and was prompted by the hardware wizard, and I re-installed the rockbox drivers.

      I disconnected the dingoo from the pc, reset it, then put it back into boot mode with B/reset, connected it back to the pc and ran the two command lines which then ran fully as per the guide (they didn't before).

      However, Dingux didn't run and I only had a black screen,  this is the problem that I also had with my first dingoo. I tried the above process a couple of more times without success.

      I remembered reading in the FAQ about putting the dingoo into boot mode with B/power off as opposed to using the reset button, and then running the command lines, so I re did the process above including this alternate step, and this time it worked without any error.

      I hope this information helps others who may be having similar problems, and thanks to everyone who offered me their advice.