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Kamiyay

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FM Radio in Dingux
« on: October 24, 2009, 04:52:26 pm »
Seriously how hard would this be? The daemon already exists as well as some (although how useful I don't know) software for FreeBSD.

Daemon: http://sourceforge.net/projects/tunerd/
Software: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ufmcontrol/

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Re: FM Radio in Dingux
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2009, 08:19:52 pm »
The native os driver would have to be reverse engineered and a linux driver for that radio chip would have to be written

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Re: FM Radio in Dingux
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2009, 01:22:36 am »
Is there a need for it when we have it in the native? It just seems like a waste of space and effort to me personally.
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Re: FM Radio in Dingux
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2009, 04:13:06 am »
Is there a need for it when we have it in the native? It just seems like a waste of space and effort to me personally.
Some people really want to migrate fully to Dingux, so it'd be a nice thing to have one day if that's ever possible.

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Re: FM Radio in Dingux
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2009, 11:39:53 am »
Some people really want to migrate fully to Dingux, so it'd be a nice thing to have one day if that's ever possible.

I see what you mean but I think on the current Dingoo with Dingux being ran from the SD card it is just a bit of a waste. I don't think there's a point of migrating fully to Dingux when the Dingoo automatically boots into the native OS, just my opinion of course.
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dukemagus

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Re: FM Radio in Dingux
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2009, 11:53:21 am »
dingoo os won't be updated

dingux is always being updated...

if you want better things, dingux are the most obvious choice

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Re: FM Radio in Dingux
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2009, 03:20:49 pm »
It would be great if radio support were to be implemented, for two reasons:
* Radio can be used in apps that are developed for the Dingoo (anyone remembers that old PSX game with a character on a line, that had to do tricks in the rhythm of a music CD you put in the PSX? Same idea could be implemented based on radio)
* FM Recording in native OS is of a bit disappointing quality, could be improved in Dingux.

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Re: FM Radio in Dingux
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2009, 04:00:31 pm »
dingoo os won't be updated

dingux is always being updated...

if you want better things, dingux are the most obvious choice

For radio, I don't think there's a point, other things sure. Like emulators, ports, apps. Hence the reason that is what we're getting.
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Re: FM Radio in Dingux
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2009, 04:02:36 pm »
It would be great if radio support were to be implemented, for two reasons:
* Radio can be used in apps that are developed for the Dingoo (anyone remembers that old PSX game with a character on a line, that had to do tricks in the rhythm of a music CD you put in the PSX? Same idea could be implemented based on radio)
* FM Recording in native OS is of a bit disappointing quality, could be improved in Dingux.

I haven't seen much interest in a radio related app, infact you're the first person I've ever heard say that, and imo it doesn't sound very appealing.

Don't see why you would want to record the radio either, doubt many of us do that on the native OS or see it as an important feature.

Like I said there's much more important things that can be done than something that is fine in the native OS anyway.
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joepie91

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Re: FM Radio in Dingux
« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2009, 04:18:45 pm »
infact you're the first person I've ever heard say that
There is always a first person suggesting something. It's not really a good argument not to do something, because that would mean anything new would always be rejected.

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Don't see why you would want to record the radio either, doubt many of us do that on the native OS or see it as an important feature.
I actually really like to be able to record a song when I think "hey that's a cool song, but I have no clue what it's called". I do in fact use it. And I have no clue about other people.

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Like I said there's much more important things that can be done than something that is fine in the native OS anyway.
It's true that there are more important things, but I'm not saying it is not fine in the native OS. It would just be good if there was some way of using the radio chip, so that IF someone decides to make something radio-related, he actually has the possibility to do so. A simple radio listener would indeed not be very useful, since it already has that, but there is a lot of perspective to develop around. You could even do file transfers between Dingoos using FM transmitters (which are around $8 a piece on DealExtreme: small investment). Just to name a few things.

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Re: FM Radio in Dingux
« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2009, 09:33:42 pm »
in last case, mail shenzeng (who make dingoo) and ask for info and documentation on fm radio drivers... that can lead you somewhere

Yongary

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Re: FM Radio in Dingux
« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2009, 09:41:30 pm »
dingoo os won't be updated

dingux is always being updated...

if you want better things, dingux are the most obvious choice

I hate to nitpick, but the native Dingoo firmware has been updated several times by the manufacturer. So far, all they've added are more language options, but it shows that they still are supporting it to some capacity.

Goon8

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Re: FM Radio in Dingux
« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2009, 11:05:27 pm »
Since when does a Chinese manufacture (OR any manufacturer) continue to improve a product when it becomes obsolete and reaches eol (Never!). I'm sure Dingoo-Digital has done just about everything they see fit for this device, are ready or already have moved on to something else, while continuing manufacturing of this stable and matured device (In there eyes.)

The point is; dingux can continue to improve as long as there's a community behind it. The native OS has already been superseded in almost every regard including applications, emulators & functionality.

Once dingux becomes slightly more mature to the point of zero corruption issues and easily installable, other functionality such as the Tuner and TV out will becomes higher priority's for the geniuses behind the already brilliant work we've seen. To the point we could see the dingoo shipping with dingux as the native OS, probably just wishful thinking but it is possible if it continues with the support and enthusiasm we've seen.

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Re: FM Radio in Dingux
« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2009, 12:00:09 am »
infact you're the first person I've ever heard say that
There is always a first person suggesting something. It's not really a good argument not to do something, because that would mean anything new would always be rejected.
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Don't see why you would want to record the radio either, doubt many of us do that on the native OS or see it as an important feature.
I actually really like to be able to record a song when I think "hey that's a cool song, but I have no clue what it's called". I do in fact use it. And I have no clue about other people.

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Like I said there's much more important things that can be done than something that is fine in the native OS anyway.
It's true that there are more important things, but I'm not saying it is not fine in the native OS. It would just be good if there was some way of using the radio chip, so that IF someone decides to make something radio-related, he actually has the possibility to do so. A simple radio listener would indeed not be very useful, since it already has that, but there is a lot of perspective to develop around. You could even do file transfers between Dingoos using FM transmitters (which are around $8 a piece on DealExtreme: small investment). Just to name a few things.
Well obviously there's a first person to suggest something, that's stating the obvious. the point is that there is a reason you are the first, because it's not really anything important or necessary.

Like you just said yourself the only reason you would use it (and you just said you already do) is to remember the name of the song, so we don't really need a better quality recorder when the native one is more than adequate, especially when it's only to remember the name of a song lol.

I've never heard of transferring files via FM waves. Infra Red sensors maybe yes. That's a completely different topic though.
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dukemagus

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Re: FM Radio in Dingux
« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2009, 01:11:29 am »
I hate to nitpick, but the native Dingoo firmware has been updated several times by the manufacturer. So far, all they've added are more language options, but it shows that they still are supporting it to some capacity.

USEFUL updates from the company i eman... they seems to have abandoned the dingoo...

dingux in the other hand...

joepie91

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Re: FM Radio in Dingux
« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2009, 06:41:14 am »
I've never heard of transferring files via FM waves. Infra Red sensors maybe yes. That's a completely different topic though.
It's just like transfering data over radio, like they did back with the commodore 64.

wakajawaka

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Re: FM Radio in Dingux
« Reply #16 on: November 15, 2009, 07:48:37 am »
Hello guys!. A pause feature for fm radio (like the i-pod nano) would be awesome!

Kalisiin

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Re: FM Radio in Dingux
« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2009, 09:31:37 am »
Actually, what WOULD be nice is if someone could figure out a way to get XM radio...or whatever satellite radio is out there...in the boonies, where I live, even FM reception sucks ass.

Hellblaze

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Re: FM Radio in Dingux
« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2009, 05:09:04 am »
Actually, what WOULD be nice is if someone could figure out a way to get XM radio...or whatever satellite radio is out there...in the boonies, where I live, even FM reception sucks ass.

I hate to say somethings impossible but...

XM Satelite radio requires some very specific hardware. Or you can listen to it via the Internet or DirectTV

So, I can't really see a way to do that on a device without the necessary hardware. Maybe if someone hacks together a way to get on the Internet, but I'm not seeing that happening.

Of course, you could probably record XM radio on your PC as an MP3 file and then just listen to it on the Dingoo like a normal music file. It's not live but it's the best I can think of based on the hardware....

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Re: FM Radio in Dingux
« Reply #19 on: November 17, 2009, 04:42:23 pm »
Actually, what WOULD be nice is if someone could figure out a way to get XM radio...or whatever satellite radio is out there...in the boonies, where I live, even FM reception sucks ass.

I hate to say somethings impossible but...

XM Satelite radio requires some very specific hardware. Or you can listen to it via the Internet or DirectTV

So, I can't really see a way to do that on a device without the necessary hardware. Maybe if someone hacks together a way to get on the Internet, but I'm not seeing that happening.

Of course, you could probably record XM radio on your PC as an MP3 file and then just listen to it on the Dingoo like a normal music file. It's not live but it's the best I can think of based on the hardware....

Well, see...that is what I did not know, because I know you can get XM/Sirius satellite radio over Direct TV, because we do.
And I was wondering if it is just programming, or was there more to it?

I only say this because FM reception sucks ass out where I live, in the boonies.  A little shitsplat town in the middle of nowhere, along the NJ-PA border.