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Title: Please don't use the official wall charger
Post by: 8bitbubsy on June 13, 2010, 10:21:25 am
It's for your own good. It's a piece of ****!  >:(

Where to start...
1) The wires from the AC connector to the PCB board are almost as thin as Kynar wires. Mmm... Poor wires, also that would generate some heat and maybe stress/resistance.

2) The PCB is squeezed together inside this little plastic housing, which might suffer from heat issues if left over night

3) When I crack opened mine, the first thing I noticed was a big solder tin ball that fell out. Imagine what kind of madness that little chap could've done...

4) I noticed that the AC rail wires are squeezed onto the side of the charger, which could worn out the protection layer. On a related note, the wires are placed right beside a diode/resistor (can't remember what it was). Again, that's a potentionally dangerous issue, especially if the wires have a worn out protection.

Even though it seems to be in pristine conditions, don't use it. You're probably good to go if you strictly check its inners and solder on some fatter wires on the main AC rail.
Title: Re: Please don't use the official wall charger
Post by: Frank_fjs on June 13, 2010, 01:17:45 pm
I tend to agree with you. The included charger is an accident waiting to happen.

The wall powered USB charger from my Wii remote charging dock does the job wonderfully!
Title: Re: Please don't use the official wall charger
Post by: darfgarf on June 13, 2010, 01:23:15 pm
'Warning!Dangerousinshock by electricity
Please use in the dryencironment!'
^^ would you use a charger that had that written on it XD ^^

edit: opened the charger from my 330, seems to be much better, with the dinkyest little transformer i've ever seen, straight to the spare parts bin with that
...and there's surface mount components on teh underside of the board, just shorting over between tracks in an awkward fashion, and i see at least 2 shorts where things have been over-solder blobbed XD
Title: Re: Please don't use the official wall charger
Post by: 8bitbubsy on June 13, 2010, 01:31:01 pm
and i see at least 2 shorts where things have been over-solder blobbed XD
It's normal on the underside of PSU PCB to have big solder blobs as bridges/shorts.
Title: Re: Please don't use the official wall charger
Post by: darfgarf on June 13, 2010, 01:46:12 pm
It's normal on the underside of PSU PCB to have big solder blobs as bridges/shorts.

well maybe in china, who would intentionally use solder blobs to complete the circuit, especially where you could just put a proper track :D
Title: Re: Please don't use the official wall charger
Post by: segafrog on June 13, 2010, 05:14:20 pm
so it's ok to use non-dingoo wall chargers with the a320 then?
i definitely don't want to use the official charger!
(i will be receiving an a320 next week).

i intend to use my official apple ipod usb charger which i would guess is safe and well made although
i'm only assuming this.  the output is 5v- - -1.0A.

if i'm making a big mistake someone tell me please !

Title: Re: Please don't use the official wall charger
Post by: santino on June 13, 2010, 05:33:05 pm
Ouput have to be 5v and more than 500mah. Best should be about 1000mah.
Title: Re: Please don't use the official wall charger
Post by: Stephanie on June 13, 2010, 07:05:20 pm
so it's ok to use non-dingoo wall chargers with the a320 then?
i definitely don't want to use the official charger!
(i will be receiving an a320 next week).

i intend to use my official apple ipod usb charger which i would guess is safe and well made although
i'm only assuming this.  the output is 5v- - -1.0A.

if i'm making a big mistake someone tell me please !



I've used the apple ipod / iphone charger with my dingoo and it works fine.
Title: Re: Please don't use the official wall charger
Post by: Friendly Neighborhood Dingoonity Troll on June 13, 2010, 07:26:20 pm
I've been using my official Dingoo wall charger for a couple months now with no problems. So I shall continue to do so until I see/hear/smell some sort of problem.

Is it slowly f'ing up my battery or something?
Title: Re: Please don't use the official wall charger
Post by: segafrog on June 13, 2010, 09:48:52 pm
here are some other options which are safer than using the official dingoo charger.

1. electric eel (difficult to get into usb slot but possible)
2. connect to exercise bike using a dynamo and some wires
3. i can't think of any more but that's probably a good thing ;D

Title: Re: Please don't use the official wall charger
Post by: sebosnia on June 13, 2010, 10:24:24 pm
I couldn't agree more. The wall charger burned my dingoo, as I explained in the topic I made http://boards.dingoonity.org/dingoo-hardware-general/dead-dingoo-after-wall-charging/
Title: Re: Please don't use the official wall charger
Post by: Tupin on June 14, 2010, 02:44:24 am
Thanks for the heads up, I shall only charge it through a USB port on a PC or with a more reliable adapter.
Title: Re: Please don't use the official wall charger
Post by: Omega Gemo on June 14, 2010, 09:04:36 pm
Not to scare anybody, but I believe that the wall charger is what caused the battery in my dingoo to start bloating, as I reported in http://boards.dingoonity.org/dingoo-hardware-general/faulty-battery-or-faulty-battery-indicator/ (http://boards.dingoonity.org/dingoo-hardware-general/faulty-battery-or-faulty-battery-indicator/)

I primarily used the wall charger to charge my dingoo, since I couldn't get it to charge through the USB ports on my computer (refused to switch from USB mode to charge mode).
Title: Re: Please don't use the official wall charger
Post by: Friendly Neighborhood Dingoonity Troll on June 14, 2010, 09:20:04 pm
Hmm. Maybe I will start only charging it with USB+computer.

And what do you mean it refused to switch from USB mode to charge mode? It charges while in USB mode.
Title: Re: Please don't use the official wall charger
Post by: Frank_fjs on June 15, 2010, 04:43:11 am
And what do you mean it refused to switch from USB mode to charge mode? It charges while in USB mode.

+1. The charging battery icon doesn't come up but it is still charging, even when the USB screen is displayed.
Title: Re: Please don't use the official wall charger
Post by: sebosnia on July 13, 2010, 02:51:20 am
The minute I got my new Dingoo, I threw away the charger. Now I'm charging it on my pc, connected to an usb port.

But how long it takes to charge? It shows no battery animation, so I have no clue when it'll be done.
Title: Re: Please don't use the official wall charger
Post by: jkd on July 13, 2010, 04:15:33 am
Yeah, I will do almost the same, i'll open that sh*t to see waht cr*p happen threre, then threw away.

Maybe i'll buy a decent wallcharger.

Title: Re: Please don't use the official wall charger
Post by: Skyline969 on August 01, 2010, 02:29:20 am
The minute I got my new Dingoo, I threw away the charger. Now I'm charging it on my pc, connected to an usb port.

But how long it takes to charge? It shows no battery animation, so I have no clue when it'll be done.
This might be a late reply, but I charged mine through USB on my laptop on Dingux with the brightness set to 5 (as low as it can go before it caps), and it took approximately 7 or 8 hours to (not quite) fully charge. It was just on 1 bar in native firmware, so my guess is leave it overnight if it's almost dead.
Title: Re: Please don't use the official wall charger
Post by: CJB100 on August 12, 2010, 10:35:03 am
Just sayin', my wall charger works just fine. I've left it plugged in for days with no smells, no overheating, no sparks when I plug it in, etc. I think maybe something has been corrected in their production...? Or maybe mine's just a fluke. XD
Title: Re: Please don't use the official wall charger
Post by: TheCaffeinator on August 19, 2010, 08:59:24 pm
I've been using a "fake" charger with my "fake" Dingoo for almost six months without any problems. I'd never leave the thing plugged in overnight, though, fake or not. Too risky for any fragile electronic device, IMHO.

Four hours max in the wall plug usually gives my A320 a full charge. Takes forever if I use the USB-to-computer trickle method.

I'm not saying everyone should throw caution to the window and use their "fake" chargers without fear. I'm just saying that it hasn't been an issue for me.
Title: Re: Please don't use the official wall charger
Post by: strider_mt2k on August 20, 2010, 01:03:56 pm
I sold mine as a "value added" item with my Wiz. :D

Since then I've purchased a Samsung phone with a great wall charger, so I use that one for a number of devices now.
Title: Re: Please don't use the official wall charger
Post by: Domian on September 01, 2010, 07:51:21 am
I ordered this one:

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31qN3JnmCCL._SS500_.jpg)

TRA KIT 12V/230V - USB 1000mA

Data:
- 230 V / AC (at home)
- 12V to 24 V / DC (in the car)

Input: 12-24V AC / 100-240V DC
Output Voltage: DC 5,0V
Output  Power: max.1000mA
Title: Re: Please don't use the official wall charger
Post by: mrzilch on September 11, 2010, 03:35:47 pm
i used a really good ipod usb charger (1000mA)  and my dingoo stops charging after a few seconds! is this a bug???

it shows "charging" for a few seconds and then it shows "battery full" - when its obviously not full at all??
Title: Re: Please don't use the official wall charger
Post by: mrzilch on September 11, 2010, 04:47:38 pm
question - the original dingoo problems are fine are they? the one with the factory name label on the chargers?

does anyone have any problem with those authentic ones?  i went to dingoo888 website and they said that "fake chargers" might explode, and they showed a picture to help identify which is original and which is fake - mine seems to be legit , so should i use it?

all my other usb chargers (for my ipods) doesnt seem to charge my dingoo, it would charge for a few secs and then stop

i just tried the charger that came with the dingoo and it works!  so i either have to use this or my pc's usb (VEERY SLOWWWW)
Title: Re: Please don't use the official wall charger
Post by: Friendly Neighborhood Dingoonity Troll on September 11, 2010, 11:03:05 pm
i used a really good ipod usb charger (1000mA)  and my dingoo stops charging after a few seconds! is this a bug???

it shows "charging" for a few seconds and then it shows "battery full" - when its obviously not full at all??


Are you talking about the green battery animation? It's not charging while it's doing that. Press a button and skip the animation. It will go back to the menu screen with a "+" in the little corner battery icon, so you know it's charging.

i just tried the charger that came with the dingoo and it works!  so i either have to use this or my pc's usb (VEERY SLOWWWW)

Just because the dingoo wall charger seems like it's working at the moment doesn't mean it's not messing stuff up. It's still probably best not to use it. If your Dingoo starts to get abnormally hot or if you see your battery start to puff up, don't use it anymore.
Title: Re: Please don't use the official wall charger
Post by: mrzilch on September 12, 2010, 02:56:13 am
awww seriously?

by the way - does anyone know if using a double usb cable will charge the dingoo faster? i have an old usb cable with two usb cords (which suppose to deliver more power into the electronic device)  does this work?
Title: Re: Please don't use the official wall charger
Post by: darfgarf on September 12, 2010, 07:28:04 am
awww seriously?

by the way - does anyone know if using a double usb cable will charge the dingoo faster? i have an old usb cable with two usb cords (which suppose to deliver more power into the electronic device)  does this work?

no, people seem to think you can just force something to charge faster by giving it more current, when in reality they badly need an electronics lesson

the dingoo will not draw any more current even if you use a 50 amp charger with it, it'll just take what it needs to charge (unless of course you poke a soldering iron into the charging circuit in the right place, and lower the resistance of it, which would probably just make your battery explode anyway)
Title: Re: Please don't use the official wall charger
Post by: mrzilch on September 22, 2010, 07:51:07 am
okay after making some observations:

DO NOT USE THE INCLUDED CHARGER EVEN IF ITS THE "REAL" (with the stickers) ONE!

at first i used the included charger coz that was the only wall charger that charges my dingoo :

BUT lately i noticed that i can smell the "burnt plastic" thingie when i was charging my dingoo - very dangerous!

and also, no matter how long you plug the charger, the dingoo will never show the "Battery full " logo - it will keep on  charging the dingoo! (thats why its dangerous!)  it charges the dingoo very quickly (empty to 267000) within 2 hours, but it will never show the battery full logo

now i use my iphone charger with a different usb cable - works awesome!

note to people : if you think your usb wall charger is not charging your dingoo, try a different cable!

i used a midi cable that came with my akai drum pads and they work perfectly - the ones that came with the dingoo didnt do it well
Title: Re: Please don't use the official wall charger
Post by: Pingouin on September 24, 2010, 11:25:53 pm
Mine never left the box, I always used a USB cable on the PC ;D I also used a cigarette lighter to USB adapter while on holiday. Both worked great.
Heck, even the stock USB cable would give me problems, so I'm not even using that either!
Title: Re: Please don't use the official wall charger
Post by: Cycron on September 25, 2010, 02:00:03 am
okay after making some observations:

DO NOT USE THE INCLUDED CHARGER EVEN IF ITS THE "REAL" (with the stickers) ONE!

at first i used the included charger coz that was the only wall charger that charges my dingoo :

BUT lately i noticed that i can smell the "burnt plastic" thingie when i was charging my dingoo - very dangerous!

and also, no matter how long you plug the charger, the dingoo will never show the "Battery full " logo - it will keep on  charging the dingoo! (thats why its dangerous!)  it charges the dingoo very quickly (empty to 267000) within 2 hours, but it will never show the battery full logo

now i use my iphone charger with a different usb cable - works awesome!

note to people : if you think your usb wall charger is not charging your dingoo, try a different cable!

i used a midi cable that came with my akai drum pads and they work perfectly - the ones that came with the dingoo didnt do it well
but when I charged mine with the wall charger it showed the "full battery" thing. I got mine from DealExtreme
Title: Re: Please don't use the official wall charger
Post by: Cycron on September 25, 2010, 02:01:58 am
Just sayin', my wall charger works just fine. I've left it plugged in for days with no smells, no overheating, no sparks when I plug it in, etc. I think maybe something has been corrected in their production...? Or maybe mine's just a fluke. XD
I've left mine plugged in for more than 2 weeks now... no smells or problems.
Title: Re: Please don't use the official wall charger
Post by: mrzilch on September 25, 2010, 06:22:17 am
ur the lucky one!

mine charges the dingoo ultra fast , from empty to full in less than 2 hours (maybe one hour and a half)
but then when i smell the charger it smelt like burnt plastic - really scary! and the charger was very very warm, not just warm, really warm!

for me that was a warning not to use it ever again... so i use my ipod charger instead, it chargers my dingoo more slowly (4 hours+ for a full charge, giving me about 8 hours of playtime) but its very safe and the battery indicator actually works! (when its full it will stop charging)  even though my ipod charger is rated at 1000mA but it seems more weak than the supplied charger

how long does it take for you guys to charge the dingoo from the wall charger? from almost empty to full?
Title: Re: Please don't use the official wall charger
Post by: bigdavebear on April 03, 2011, 10:17:59 pm
I have had sucsess with a Mottorolla Charger, its shows the Charge process like the official charger and i have not charged fully.

When Dingoo has 1 bar i charge till 3 are on it and it takes about 2 hours to get to that level.
Title: Re: Please don't use the official wall charger
Post by: bestbattle on April 12, 2011, 07:57:40 pm
The easiest way of charging the Dingoo (and any mini-USB powered device) is to let your computer's power supply ON and connect via USB the handheld. I usualy let my Dingoo about 8 hours (all night) and in the morning disconnect it and let it cool a bit before using it.
Title: Re: Please don't use the official wall charger
Post by: jjfreak on May 01, 2011, 06:12:22 pm
Hey,

Is it safe to use iPod USB Power Adapter like this one ?

(http://hardverapro.hu/dl/upc/2011-03/305695_98675_apple_ipod_usb_power_adapter.jpg)

Specifications:

Input: AC 100-240 volts (V), 50/60 hertz (Hz)
Output: DC 5V, 1A

Thanks in the advance!



Title: Re: Please don't use the official wall charger
Post by: jjfreak on May 01, 2011, 08:07:58 pm
^
Anyone ?
Title: Re: Please don't use the official wall charger
Post by: jagotu on May 01, 2011, 08:29:08 pm
I think Why not?
Title: Re: Please don't use the official wall charger
Post by: jjfreak on May 02, 2011, 11:48:51 am
I think Why not?
Ok thanks :D Then I'm going to use this charger instead :D
Title: Re: Please don't use the official wall charger
Post by: SilverhawkBR on May 02, 2011, 11:57:43 pm
The wall charger here heats up the dingoo a bit, but never too a "melting point"  :P
Title: Re: Please don't use the official wall charger
Post by: intern on May 23, 2011, 12:30:48 am
What are you guys talking about?

I've used the original charger that came with the Dingoo like forever. It's been left plugged in for more than a year, the charger to a surge protector I that is. No problems at all.
It never overheats when charging anything and I use it to charge many more devices than just the Dingoo, I use it to charge whatever device will charge via USB.

I bought my Dingoo in May 2009.
Title: Re: Please don't use the official wall charger
Post by: Friendly Neighborhood Dingoonity Troll on May 23, 2011, 12:42:04 am
What are you guys talking about?

I've used the original charger that came with the Dingoo like forever. It's been left plugged in for more than a year, the charger to a surge protector I that is. No problems at all.
It never overheats when charging anything and I use it to charge many more devices than just the Dingoo, I use it to charge whatever device will charge via USB.

I bought my Dingoo in May 2009.

Well you just got a good one then. The point here is that these are cheap and the quality will vary from unit to unit. There's no denying that some chargers have destroyed their Dingoos. Better to be safe than sorry, and use a USB charger from a more consistent and reputable manufacturer.
Title: Re: Please don't use the official wall charger
Post by: intern on May 23, 2011, 07:30:32 am
I bought mine in May 2009. At that time I've never heard of any issues with the included charger. So I'm guessing this only applies to chargers made some time after.
Title: Re: Please don't use the official wall charger
Post by: bigdavebear on June 05, 2011, 08:50:42 pm
As Jesse says these Dingoos are not built to the same standards that PSPs and DS's are. And so some consoles have some isues that others dont, and its all to do with build quality.

And so i guess the same hit/miss can occur with the chargers.

I only used mine 2 times and noticed it get a bit warm but not hot and my Dingoo a bit warm too.

I used my PC and PS3 to charge the Dingoo but they do take longer.

But as i said before a Motorolla Mobile/Cell Phone Charger worked fine for me, so Phones that have the same USB (B) Connection as Dingoo, you should be able to use their chargers.

Or even PS3 Pad Docking Stations.

The best way may be to get a decent quality USB charger, i got one from a popular electrical retailer and use that to charge my Dingoo and other USB devices from now on.
Title: Re: Please don't use the official wall charger
Post by: ergo0100 on June 07, 2011, 04:25:28 am
I have been using the wall charger that came with my dingoo since i bought it! the charger is connected 24/7 an it have been like this for many weeks... No problem at all

Black un-pawed dingoo from thinkgeek
Title: Re: Please don't use the official wall charger
Post by: Sworly on September 16, 2011, 05:50:57 pm
Lol. I bought mine used, so it didn't include the original charger. Guess I got lucky, then.  ;D
Title: Re: Please don't use the official wall charger
Post by: atari_afternoon on October 29, 2011, 07:47:55 pm
I?d not have used it anyway. 110V is of no use here and for the price of a 110->200V changer... I got a general USB-wall charger for 6,99.- which has accompanied me to the holiday flat. Was worth the buy since it also charges any other USB charge gadget, camera, DS, GBA...
Title: Re: Please don't use the official wall charger
Post by: thegreendutch on January 20, 2012, 07:37:15 pm
well I just got mine in and I have it plugged into the wall. I'm going to watch it for a bit. I think the problem lies in within the chargers 2 piece design. Also the plug has no flare on the end and its kind of flimsy. Its probably better to plug it in a power strip to charge rather then plugging it into the wall if your not using the PC. Letting it hang off a wall seems like it only slips out and then you have a bad connection and problems. Also don't ever leave a rechargeable device plugged in more then a couple days. Some of these products will keep cooking themselves if you leave them plugged in too long.
Title: Re: Please don't use the official wall charger
Post by: emrextreme on January 27, 2012, 05:04:33 pm
This topic really terrified me. I'm still waiting for my Dingoo A320 and try to learn what to do when i get it. I see that A320 uses mini-usb cable and charger as my Philips phone does. They are both 5V and wonder if i can use my phone's cable and charger instead of the stock ones. Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Please don't use the official wall charger
Post by: darth_llamah on January 28, 2012, 08:55:50 am
This topic really terrified me. I'm still waiting for my Dingoo A320 and try to learn what to do when i get it. I see that A320 uses mini-usb cable and charger as my Philips phone does. They are both 5V and wonder if i can use my phone's cable and charger instead of the stock ones. Thanks in advance.
You can as long as your charger has USB output- I use HTC charger with a "generic" USB cable.
Messing with wires can fry your dingoo.
Title: Re: Please don't use the official wall charger
Post by: emrextreme on January 28, 2012, 09:00:16 am
Thanks, it has mini usb output that probably fits to dingoo.
Title: Re: Please don't use the official wall charger
Post by: darth_llamah on January 28, 2012, 09:06:14 am
It should. Motorola's miniUSB charger also works fine.