Author Topic: Personal Organizer  (Read 10387 times)

dukemagus

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Re: Personal Organizer
« Reply #15 on: December 02, 2009, 11:34:41 pm »
ok, ok, put down those flames!

going back to the subject... there is a problem... most Organizers uses a clock system to tell (alarm) when the desired event is close...

dingoo does not support it... and that makes it a little less useful than a notepad app or a virtual keyboard port

Kalisiin

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Re: Personal Organizer
« Reply #16 on: December 17, 2009, 04:17:40 pm »
ok, ok, put down those flames!

going back to the subject... there is a problem... most Organizers uses a clock system to tell (alarm) when the desired event is close...

dingoo does not support it... and that makes it a little less useful than a notepad app or a virtual keyboard port

True enough.

Which is why I said it should allow you to re-set the date every time you start it up.

I'd just like something like a reminder book...on a system that I actually turn on every single day.
That way, I don't forget important things.

TheCaffeinator

Re: Personal Organizer
« Reply #17 on: January 25, 2010, 07:21:57 pm »
You should be able to do what you're asking for with the GameBoy Personal Organizer ROM as long as you are using an emulator that has a state save function.

Open the Organizer and set it to the current date, then enter all of your appointments and stuff... then do a state save. When you open the organizer ROM again, load the saved state, then reset the calendar to the current date.

santino

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Re: Personal Organizer
« Reply #18 on: January 25, 2010, 09:32:40 pm »
The dingoo has a clock. Look at the rtc kernel from dingux.

Kalisiin

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Re: Personal Organizer
« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2010, 11:17:26 pm »
The dingoo has a clock. Look at the rtc kernel from dingux.

Yes, but the clock only works when it is powered on.  It does not keep time once the Dingoo is powered off, as does, say, your home PC...or even the DS Lite does.

santino

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Re: Personal Organizer
« Reply #20 on: January 25, 2010, 11:23:18 pm »
This is definitely wrong. The clock of the dingoo is working like every other clock. Have you tried it? ;)

Godfather

Re: Personal Organizer
« Reply #21 on: January 26, 2010, 08:26:58 am »
Just tried out the "Innovation GBA PDA". Works rather well, and features an on-screen keyboard. The app has a built-in clock which can be set. But for some odd reason, the clock always resets to "00.00"

As mentioned before, a save state might be needed.

As the developer states:
Features such as a world clock, calendar, calculator, personal organizer, daily planer, address book, pocket notebook, text pad and more. It also boasts such features as customizable interface, password security protection, desktop music, and the ability to transfer files to another GBA (Crossed that out. We aren't using a GBA.  :P)

Find it somewhere on the internet ;)

Homepage for GBA PDA:
http://www.viewonline.com/pages/articles/innovationpda.htm
« Last Edit: January 26, 2010, 09:00:11 am by Godfather »

Meneer Jansen

Re: Personal Organizer
« Reply #22 on: January 26, 2010, 11:55:22 am »
Okay. I've seen topics bout the GBA PDA (Organizer) come and go a couple of times. For onece and for all: it don't work! We're talking about this one aren't we (see screenshots)?

1. On aforementioned website it states that all data (like the date and time!) is stored on the cartdridge (because the GBA didn't have ram, remember). No emulator in the whole wide world will emulate the specific data ram chip on this particular cartridge. That's why (as somebody else already found out "experimentally") you cannot even set the date and time: it will constantly jump back to 00-00, Year 2000. Even Dingoo's "save state" won't work. Or the PDA app will spit out an error about the ram chip not being found.

2. Allegedly, the cart didn't even work on the newer GBA clamshell edition. It is said only to work on the very first GBA edition (the non clam shell one).

Pretty much end of discussion I'm afraid... So unless some some super clever Dingoo programmer makes a PDA especially for our beloved Dingoo, there's no PDA.
« Last Edit: January 27, 2010, 12:39:14 pm by Meneer Jansen »
Finally got me a new Dingoo after I Kentucky ~~::fried::~~ the other one. Yippee! [edit] And lost it!

Kalisiin

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Re: Personal Organizer
« Reply #23 on: January 26, 2010, 05:53:32 pm »
Well, I use the Personal Organizer for GB...and it keeps time only as long as the Dingoo is turned on.

If the Dingoo keeps time when it is turned off, then why doesn't GB's Personal Organizer launch back up starting out with the correct time, instead of resetting to January 1 1990?

And why does the GB Organizer only let you schedule within the month you are currently in?  That sucks.  To schedule future events, you have to falsely set the date ahead to the month you want, at program start-up.

And if all the storage is on the cartridge, as is claimed...then why do my appointments store perfectly, even on the Dingoo?  no using save states, no nothing.  It just works as it ought to, it saves the damn appointments.  It's just a pain in the arse to set them in the first place, because of the aforementioned limitation.

SO...if it stores appointments across a period of off-power time...then why doesn't it come up with the right time when you start up??

Someone doesn't know what they are talking about!!

I'm telling you that GB's Organizer DOES store and keep appointments.  It correctly keeps the time as long as the Dingoo is turned on
It does NOT keep the time once turned off.  It does not lose appointment data on turn-off.  It always resets to January 1, 1990 on re-start.
That reset every start-up...and the limitation about having to put in a fake date to schedule future appointments...are the only two things that keep this program from being a good little PDA for the Dingoo.

If anyone can start with the GB Personal Organizer (NOT THE GBA Personal Organizer) and fix those two limitations...we would have a Dingoo PDA.  One with, admittedly limited functionality, but, nonetheless, a PDA.

Other functionality, such as a notebook, a calculator, an address book - could be added on.  And if the clock on the Dingoo DOES run all the time (someone would have to prove that one to me) then the World Time function could also be added...and we'd have a very useful and solid PDA for the Dingoo.

All that is needed is for someone to figure out how to go from GB's Personal Organizer...and overcome two existing problems...and then add on whatever desired functionality beyond that point.

Godfather

Re: Personal Organizer
« Reply #24 on: January 26, 2010, 07:43:55 pm »
We would have a better chance at making one in Dingux.

Hacking a GB or GBA ROM is very complicated, and on certain ROM's, impossible.

If only the flash player would allow interaction... then we could make a flash based PDA.  :P

santino

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Re: Personal Organizer
« Reply #25 on: January 26, 2010, 08:21:22 pm »
@ kalisiin

I was talking about the dingoo having a working clock. You talk about a gba rom which cant hold the time. Dingoo's native OS resets the rom every reboot. So with the gba emulator its almost impossible.

Kalisiin

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Re: Personal Organizer
« Reply #26 on: January 26, 2010, 11:16:43 pm »
@ kalisiin

I was talking about the dingoo having a working clock. You talk about a gba rom which cant hold the time. Dingoo's native OS resets the rom every reboot. So with the gba emulator its almost impossible.

OK.  Well, I knew for some reason that...as long as the dingoo was powered ON...it would keep time - but then when you powered off...squat.

You could even change ROM's as long as you left power on, and if memory recalls, the clock would still be right when you came back to the ROM.  It was only on Power-off that you lost the clock.  I may be mistaken on that point.

Meneer Jansen

Re: Personal Organizer
« Reply #27 on: January 27, 2010, 12:58:29 pm »
Okay, my mistake. I confused the Gameboy (GB) PDA for the Gameboy Advance (GBA) PDA. Sorry, but I haven't tried the GB PDA yet. Will definitely try it when I can get my hands on it. It's called "Frommer's Personal Organizer (U).zip (29 kb)" isn't it? And I have to install that GB emu that allows GB roms to be played full screen then (I still have the one that displays that micro small cropped screen, aargh).

Anyway, the GBA PDA (of which I posted screenshots) doesn't work...
Finally got me a new Dingoo after I Kentucky ~~::fried::~~ the other one. Yippee! [edit] And lost it!

Kalisiin

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Re: Personal Organizer
« Reply #28 on: January 27, 2010, 04:19:35 pm »
Okay, my mistake. I confused the Gameboy (GB) PDA for the Gameboy Advance (GBA) PDA. Sorry, but I haven't tried the GB PDA yet. Will definitely try it when I can get my hands on it. It's called "Frommer's Personal Organizer (U).zip (29 kb)" isn't it? And I have to install that GB emu that allows GB roms to be played full screen then (I still have the one that displays that micro small cropped screen, aargh).

Anyway, the GBA PDA (of which I posted screenshots) doesn't work...

Yes.
Well, like I said, the GB version doesn't EXACTLY work, either, but it can be made to work.

There's as I said two major things that, if they can be fixed...would make it totally workable.

One is..either need the ability to keep time while power off, or at least save the last setting - with an option to re-set each time you start up.

The other is...being able to schedule items further out than the current month you are in.

Like I said, it DOES save the appointments...so it doesn't seem like the first limitation should be all that hard to fix...just have it also save the current settings.  The second limitation, I don't know.

batman52

Re: Personal Organizer
« Reply #29 on: March 12, 2010, 07:26:13 am »
@kailisiin: with the release of the RTC kernel (http://boards.dingoonity.org/dingux-releases/dingux-poweroff-and-rtc-kernel-ver-091224/) and gpSP for dingux (http://boards.dingoonity.org/dingoonity-news/gpsp-for-dingux-updated-again!/?topicseen) I think that the PDA application for GBA could "remember" the time when emulated with dingux. I think that if you really care you should give it a try.

Good luck!

 

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