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Title: Tegra X1 Shield Portable 2 Possibly On Sale This Summer.
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 24, 2017, 08:28:01 pm
Here's the complete FCC documents pertaining to the Shield Portable 2 with the Tegra X1 Processor. The documents contain not only pictures of the device but also the user manuals. Link provided below.


https://fccid.io/VOB-P2523
Title: Re: Tegra X1 Shield Portable 2 Possibly On Sale This Summer.
Post by: SONY on May 24, 2017, 09:48:58 pm
This is old news from February.
It was cancelled because nVIDIA don't want to upset Nintendo by releasing something that could potentially be a competitor to the Nintendo Switch.
We will never see a Shield Portable 2.
Title: Re: Tegra X1 Shield Portable 2 Possibly On Sale This Summer.
Post by: vcoleiro1 on May 25, 2017, 01:10:40 am
Nvidia is making a lot of money from Tegra sales to Nintendo.  I doubt they would risk that.  And it's pretty clear they canceled the X1 Shield Portable when they signed Nintedno.  those docs go back a long time and it evapaourated at the time youd expect they signed on with Nintendo

https://www.technobuffalo.com/2017/05/10/nintendo-switch-nvidia-revenue/
Title: Re: Tegra X1 Shield Portable 2 Possibly On Sale This Summer.
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 25, 2017, 02:44:12 am
Man obviously some people should think before opening their mouths wide, while keeping closed minds. If Nvidia didn't want to offend Nintendo in anyway they wouldn't have relaunched the Nvidia Shield TV some months ago, as it is a console and makes use of the Nvidia Tegra X1, same as the Nintendo Switch, and same as the Nvidia Shield Portable 2! I said possibly the Nvidia Shield Portable 2 will release this summer and be shown at E3.
Title: Re: Tegra X1 Shield Portable 2 Possibly On Sale This Summer.
Post by: vcoleiro1 on May 25, 2017, 03:04:37 am
Man obviously some people should think before opening their mouths wide, while keeping closed minds. If Nvidia didn't want to offend Nintendo in anyway they wouldn't have relaunched the Nvidia Shield TV some months ago, as it is a console and makes use of the Nvidia Tegra X1, same as the Nintendo Switch, and same as the Nvidia Shield Portable 2! I said possibly the Nvidia Shield Portable 2 will release this summer and be shown at E3.

@Elronza Williams Jr.

Come on man , no need for that tone.

The point is that the Shield TV already existed and was being sold. It was just mildly updated with a new shaped controller.  I think they even took away the uSD slot.  Importantly it's not a portable and has no screen.  So nothing new there.

As for the Shield Portable, it was to be launched ages ago as the docs indicate, obously it was held back for a reason.   Think about that.  If they were going to launch it, the time was ages ago when the docs show it was ready to.  They don't hold a product after FCC approval for a year or so, normally the product comes out shortly after.   I wouldn;t say it was a matter of offending either, my guess is that it was part of the negotiated contract with Nintendo. Of course this is all conjecture.  So no need to get heated about it.



Title: Re: Tegra X1 Shield Portable 2 Possibly On Sale This Summer.
Post by: skelton on May 25, 2017, 10:36:03 am
I also think shield portable 2 was probably canned because of Switch. But who knows, e3 is coming soon, so I guess We'll know it. Shield TV is more a streaming device than a console. It has emulators and other stuff, but I don't see it as competitor with the switch. I have one and I only use it for multimedia and streaming indeed,
Title: Re: Tegra X1 Shield Portable 2 Possibly On Sale This Summer.
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 25, 2017, 11:02:07 am
Firstly you need to get up outta your feelings, as no one is heated. There is no change in my tone. Stop trying to play victim vcoleiro1, when you came at me sideways along with sony, with why you feel there's no possibility of a Shield Portable 2. And mind you continue to state the same thing as if you are the be all know all.  Stating that Nvidia doesn't want to compete with Nintendo or offend them, with a Shield Portable 2. You got all in your feelings when I the OP of this post didn't agree with you ,and stated my own personal opinion, that the Nvidia Shield TV which is a console that connects to a TV and has a controller ;and features the Tegra X1 same as the Nintendo Switch. Is a competitor to the Nintendo Switch ,as others including myself see it as another console same as the Xbox and Sony brand consoles, which also have media features, all be it more a competitor to the Nintendo Switch as it features a Tegra X1. From this point on I will not acknowledge you or sony anymore. I have never stated it's a fact that the Shield Portable 2 is being released. I said possibly.
Title: Re: Tegra X1 Shield Portable 2 Possibly On Sale This Summer.
Post by: vcoleiro1 on May 25, 2017, 11:31:26 am
@Elronza Williams Jr.

I couldn't care less that you have a different opinion.  And it could turn out that you are correct. 

What I do have an issue with is that while you , Sony and myself all gave our opinions calmly, suddenly you chimed in with "some people should think before opening their mouths wide, while keeping closed minds".  Not sure why you said that out of the blue - that's all   

But maybe something came across the wrong way in all that.  So I'm moving on
Title: Re: Tegra X1 Shield Portable 2 Possibly On Sale This Summer.
Post by: SONY on May 25, 2017, 12:30:59 pm
(http://i.imgur.com/ANyqLPW.gif)
Title: Re: Tegra X1 Shield Portable 2 Possibly On Sale This Summer.
Post by: AVahne on May 27, 2017, 05:03:45 pm
Is this a joke thread?
Title: Re: Tegra X1 Shield Portable 2 Possibly On Sale This Summer.
Post by: Faust on May 27, 2017, 06:53:46 pm
A joke thread with a Shity temper dude as far as I noticed.

Envoyé de mon 6039Y en utilisant Tapatalk

Title: Re: Tegra X1 Shield Portable 2 Possibly On Sale This Summer.
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 28, 2017, 04:38:42 am
Faust the only shity thing on here is you. And as far as this post being a joke no it is not. But are you a joke AVahne?
Title: Re: Tegra X1 Shield Portable 2 Possibly On Sale This Summer.
Post by: Faust on May 28, 2017, 02:40:56 pm
Faust the only shity thing on here is you. And as far as this post being a joke no it is not. But are you a joke AVahne?
Lol seems that I aimed right.

If you don't know how to respect people and how to act like an adult, you won't get any kind answer from anyone.

So careful your tongue.

Title: Re: Tegra X1 Shield Portable 2 Possibly On Sale This Summer.
Post by: leafar on May 28, 2017, 03:47:04 pm
its hot Summers in USA
Title: Re: Tegra X1 Shield Portable 2 Possibly On Sale This Summer.
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 28, 2017, 06:55:41 pm
Naw you didn't aim right or hit anything. All you did faust was show how childish and immature you are ,by running your ball washer starting crap with me and then playing victim when you are the cowardly aggressor that came attacking me along with others. I assure you that I am not mad at all. In fact I don't give two squirts of piss about anyone not adding to or disproving my guesses without undeniable proof. I have yet to see you or anyone else prove that Nvidia themselves have stated , and I quote ("that they will never make another Shield Portable!") And please as far as respect goes all you did was start attacking me after others already had, so I have zero respect for you bottom feeder.
Title: Re: Tegra X1 Shield Portable 2 Possibly On Sale This Summer.
Post by: Faust on May 28, 2017, 07:38:19 pm
Naw you didn't aim right or hit anything. All you did faust was show how childish and immature you are ,by running your ball washer starting crap with me and then playing victim when you are the cowardly aggressor that came attacking me along with others. I assure you that I am not mad at all. In fact I don't give two squirts of piss about anyone not adding to or disproving my guesses without undeniable proof. I have yet to see you or anyone else prove that Nvidia themselves have stated , and I quote ("that they will never make another Shield Portable!") And please as far as respect goes all you did was start attacking me after others already had, so I have zero respect for you bottom feeder.
Good to me, you are just a piece of Shit to me, attacking people and pretending later that we are the offenders.

So pity.

The first people just gave their point of view, but didn't worth anything for such proud little boy like you.

I won't give any proof to you because I don't give a Shit about you, really simple: my time is too expensive for you.


You better go to forum with people of your kind, you are just nuisance here.
Title: Re: Tegra X1 Shield Portable 2 Possibly On Sale This Summer.
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 28, 2017, 09:24:11 pm
Wow so not only are you an outright liar ,as it is clearly evident in this post that you yourself and others addressed/ attacked me first not the other way around faust. Yet again you provide no proof/evidence of any kind to prove one way or the other of there​ will or will not be another Shield Portable, just more petty attacks like the petty person you are. And do I detect racism with your people of my kind statement??  And the only Nuisance here is you.
Title: Re: Tegra X1 Shield Portable 2 Possibly On Sale This Summer.
Post by: bamboori on May 29, 2017, 10:45:42 pm
My name is Mungus. Hugh Mungus.

It's always fun to read these kind of threads from time to time :P
Title: Re: Tegra X1 Shield Portable 2 Possibly On Sale This Summer.
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 13, 2017, 11:06:13 am
Update the Nvidia Shield Tablet K1 is out of stock and has been for awhile. Also in the User Guide part of the Nvidia Shield Portable 2 FCC documents dated 1/18/2017 which is the user guide it clearly states Tegra X1 and shows this was updated after 7/15/2016.


4   P2523 User Guide   Users Manual
Adobe Acrobat PDF (866 kB)   2017-01-18
2016-07-15

https://fccid.io/VOB-P2523
Title: Re: Tegra X1 Shield Portable 2 Possibly On Sale This Summer.
Post by: vcoleiro1 on June 13, 2017, 03:04:21 pm
Update the Nvidia Shield Tablet K1 is out of stock and has been for awhile. Also in the User Guide part of the Nvidia Shield Portable 2 FCC documents dated 1/18/2017 which is the user guide it clearly states Tegra X1 and shows this was updated after 7/15/2016.


4   P2523 User Guide   Users Manual
Adobe Acrobat PDF (866 kB)   2017-01-18
2016-07-15

https://fccid.io/VOB-P2523

My opinion, the Jan 2017 date which is listed as the "Date Submitted" - represents the 6 month confidentiality  period ending - thus the document then becoming available , ie not when it was updated.  The doc was created and made available to the FCC at 14/15 Jul 2016, 6 months later on Jan 18th it was made available after the well publicised 6 month confidentiality period ending.

http://www.droid-life.com/2017/01/12/nvidia-shield-portable-2/

Quote: "In mid-2016, NVIDIA submitted what appears to be a possible SHIELD Portable 2 device to the FCC for regulatory certification and all that jazz. Now that we’re in the first part of 2017, the short-term confidentiality request (180 days) has expired, meaning external photos of the device have surfaced on the FCC website."

Side note, I heard the Tegra K1 was discontinued by Nvidia a while ago.
Title: Re: Tegra X1 Shield Portable 2 Possibly On Sale This Summer.
Post by: NTMBK on July 25, 2017, 03:04:04 pm
Why would they launch this thing in Summer 2017 using a bunch of outdated 20nm parts? Sounds like they had a big old stockpile of Tegra X1 that they didn't know what to do with, so they had two plans; try to flog them to Nintendo on the cheap, or shove them into an updated Shield portable and try to get rid of them that way. The Nintendo plan panned out, so the new Shield got shelved.
Title: Re: Tegra X1 Shield Portable 2 Possibly On Sale This Summer.
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on August 28, 2017, 12:38:41 am
While I was indeed wrong about the shield portable 2 launching this summer. Something is indeed about to happen as this Reddit user has a shield portable 2 in hand. Link below.     

https://www.reddit.com/r/theNvidiaShield/comments/6vujt5/portable_2/
Title: Re: Tegra X1 Shield Portable 2 Possibly On Sale This Summer.
Post by: vcoleiro1 on August 28, 2017, 01:36:48 am
While I was indeed wrong about the shield portable 2 launching this summer. Something is indeed about to happen as this Reddit user has a shield portable 2 in hand. Link below.     

https://www.reddit.com/r/theNvidiaShield/comments/6vujt5/portable_2/

I think it's pretty clear that it's a prototype that a dev has offloaded now that it's canceled . I say that with some reservation, becuase I find the story on where he got it hard to believe.
If you have read Nvidia's financial reports lately, you would have seen they are making an absolute fortune from sales to Nintendo, there is no way they are going to risk that. It would be financial suicide.

Of course we also have proof of the tablet with X1 being canceld: https://www.technobuffalo.com/2016/08/11/nvidia-shield-2-tablet-cancelled/

The story below confirms the dev prototype for testing aspect

"We can also independently confirm that it is a developer unit that was never intended for public release, and was provided to game developers for testing."

http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/08/26/unreleased-nvidia-shield-portable-2-found-pawn-shop-canada/
Title: Re: Tegra X1 Shield Portable 2 Possibly On Sale This Summer.
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on August 30, 2017, 10:16:22 pm
I'm really tired of repeating this but yet again it needs to be stated. 'If Nvidia truly did not want to offend Nintendo, the company wouldn't still be selling the Nvidia Shield TV'; which is a true console aka box that connects to a tv and allows game-play on said tv with a controller. Not to mention the Shield TV features a Tegra X1 same chip powering the Nintendo Switch! So again until Nvidia states there will never be another Nvidia Shield Portable, I and others still have hope. Link below proving that the Nvidia Shield TV is still available making all of your points straight booty.

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/shield/
Title: Re: Tegra X1 Shield Portable 2 Possibly On Sale This Summer.
Post by: NTMBK on September 04, 2017, 05:26:20 pm
I'm really tired of repeating this but yet again it needs to be stated. 'If Nvidia truly did not want to offend Nintendo, the company wouldn't still be selling the Nvidia Shield TV'; which is a true console aka box that connects to a tv and allows game-play on said tv with a controller. Not to mention the Shield TV features a Tegra X1 same chip powering the Nintendo Switch! So again until Nvidia states there will never be another Nvidia Shield Portable, I and others still have hope. Link below proving that the Nvidia Shield TV is still available making all of your points straight booty.

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/shield/

Give it up mate, they're not making a new Shield Portable. The first one had bloody awful sales figures.
Title: Re: Tegra X1 Shield Portable 2 Possibly On Sale This Summer.
Post by: skelton on September 04, 2017, 05:49:41 pm
I'm really tired of repeating this but yet again it needs to be stated. 'If Nvidia truly did not want to offend Nintendo, the company wouldn't still be selling the Nvidia Shield TV'; which is a true console aka box that connects to a tv and allows game-play on said tv with a controller. Not to mention the Shield TV features a Tegra X1 same chip powering the Nintendo Switch! So again until Nvidia states there will never be another Nvidia Shield Portable, I and others still have hope. Link below proving that the Nvidia Shield TV is still available making all of your points straight booty.

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/shield/

Give it up mate, they're not making a new Shield Portable. The first one had bloody awful sales figures.

That is normal. Nvidia didn't seem to care European users, so people from europe who wanted a shield portable would have to import it at a much higher price. But it seems Nvidia only likes dollars, not euros
Title: Re: Tegra X1 Shield Portable 2 Possibly On Sale This Summer.
Post by: vcoleiro1 on September 05, 2017, 02:52:52 pm
I'm really tired of repeating this but yet again it needs to be stated. 'If Nvidia truly did not want to offend Nintendo, the company wouldn't still be selling the Nvidia Shield TV'; which is a true console aka box that connects to a tv and allows game-play on said tv with a controller. Not to mention the Shield TV features a Tegra X1 same chip powering the Nintendo Switch! So again until Nvidia states there will never be another Nvidia Shield Portable, I and others still have hope. Link below proving that the Nvidia Shield TV is still available making all of your points straight booty.

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/shield/

There is a big difference between the Shield TV and Switch. The Shield TV doesn't compete with the Switch as it has no portable gaming aspect to it.  The shield portable on the other hand could be used exactly like the Switch can, ie as a portable or connected to the TV.

Tegra revenue for the last quarter was $333 million just from Tegra sales - primarily to Nintendo.  That's $1.3 Billion annually. I doubt they are going to risk that  on the comparitive pittance they got from shield portable sales.  if you saif they sold 200k portables at $250 each, thats $50mill over it's life time.  Compare that to the $800mill thats probably coming from Nintendo Tegra sales per annum.

Anyway, if they are going to release it, where is it.  It should have been released ages ago close to the FCC Filings.   IF it's still being released why the long long delay (like almost 2 years )?


Also of note, look at the best comment in the reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/6w6757/i_found_an_nvidea_shield_portable_2/

"Hey guys, a trusted source familiar with the matter told us it is a dev unit that will never be released (if that wasn't obvious already)."