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Title: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: R2112 on July 03, 2017, 04:37:06 pm
Forgive me if previously posted;
Otherwise, if not, check this out
https://www.engadget.com/2017/07/03/snail-mobile-i7-moqi-much-gaming-smartphone-china/
"6-inch 1080p touchscreen, 6GB RAM, 64GB storage, stereo speakers, dual SIM slots and removable 6,000 mAh battery. The i7 is powered by MediaTek's 10-core, tri-cluster Helio X20 (MT6797) processor"

Edited for better link per Sony- thanks Sony!
Also, see alternate specs in Sony's post below.
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: SONY on July 03, 2017, 09:48:34 pm
Fixed your link.

https://www.engadget.com/2017/07/03/snail-mobile-i7-moqi-much-gaming-smartphone-china/

EDIT: I will definitely get one of these, but will get the premium model with 8GB RAM and 128GB onboard storage.
Also, I reckon the price is a little high, although it does have very nice mid-range specs.

(https://o.aolcdn.com/images/dims?thumbnail=980%2C653&quality=80&image_uri=https%3A%2F%2Fs.blogcdn.com%2Fslideshows%2Fimages%2Fslides%2F679%2F580%2F8%2FS6795808%2Fslug%2Fl%2Fsnail-mobile-moqi-i7-portrait-1.jpg)

(https://s.aolcdn.com/hss/storage/midas/bb3743830222d529474f73f90051aaea/205438572/snail-mobile-moqi-i7-left.jpg)
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: LordDavon on July 04, 2017, 02:46:05 am
This one looks interesting.  I like the CPU choice, and the 8GB RAM option is good.  I'll probably pick one up.  Maybe they will let me do a ROM.  Doubt it... but it looks like it could be fun.
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: AVahne on July 04, 2017, 02:57:14 am
Looks nice, even with the game controls. Probably iReadyGo's most refined design yet, without sacrificing as much ergonomics as the W3D. Not really interested in this form factor for a gaming phone anymore though and if I want a new dedicated Android gaming handheld, I'll wait for the XD2.
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: dilemina on July 04, 2017, 07:23:57 am
Looks nice, even with the game controls. Probably iReadyGo's most refined design yet, without sacrificing as much ergonomics as the W3D. Not really interested in this form factor for a gaming phone anymore though and if I want a new dedicated Android gaming handheld, I'll wait for the XD2.


From the pictures it looks like no L2 or R2 or start or select.

I think the 78p01 and w3d looked more sleek but this will feel nicer when playing, because of the joysticks. Closer in design to the "much" i4 and i5. Hope the drivers for the joysticks and buttons are set up nicely at launch though.


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Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: SONY on July 05, 2017, 12:06:14 pm
Good spotting!! I didn't notice it. Huge design oversight?
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: Skelton-retired on July 05, 2017, 12:14:52 pm
Expensive and probably with the same software flaws of snail devices (no 60 Hz refresh rate, bad joystick driver Support etc...)
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: leafar on July 05, 2017, 03:04:27 pm
This is the ugly one, no changes in the design.
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: DroidX2 on July 05, 2017, 07:14:29 pm
Well I be damned!!!!   :o ;D >:(
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on July 05, 2017, 10:55:43 pm
Thank you both R2112 and Sony for posting about this i7 gaming phone. I as an ex Xperia Play owner have been waiting a long time for a decent gaming smartphone, and here you've posted one with specs that have got me hyped. I for sure want the top of the line 8gb ram 128gb storage model.
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: Skelton-retired on July 05, 2017, 11:02:16 pm
6 GB ram or 8 in Android is quite absurd. It only makes it more expensive. 3 GB ram is more than enough for Android. Shield tv is a good example that 3 GB is enough.
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: Phawx on July 06, 2017, 01:43:55 am
Judging by Snails previous efforts this should get to the US in a few years.
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: DroidX2 on July 06, 2017, 03:41:24 pm
Ok Snail! While I've always been a fan of Snail's gaming phone designs, from my brief past experience, the major issue lies with the phone aspect. Namely, carrier support. Here is the US, their devices lack the required bands to be consistently connected. Gaming device wise, I enjoyed both the 78P01, and the W3D. Beyond their apparent faults, gaming was great with these devices. But data connection and phone calls were virtually non existent. I am still unsure what happened with my 78P01 and W3D. They both just got restricted from using towers after a while.

I really hope they concentrate more on the phone aspect of the device, otherwise it'll become just another Android Gaming device, in which there are better alternatives.

Nevertheless, the gaming kid in me is still excited about this and hoping it finally addresses the issues of the past. Seems they finally stepped into Lollipop judging from the screenshots. The design reminds me of the GPD Q9. The rounded edges make it seem very pocket-able for its size. Still the same D-Pad design, i just hope it's more smooth moving. Fighting games were kind of tough with the older devices.

I assume with the omission of start and select, they will be soft buttons like the W3D. Also, with omission of L2 and R2, may make shooting games a tad more complicated for mapping.

That price point is also highly competitive. My alternative is the MOTO Z2PLAY with Gamepad MotoMod, which when combined, would be a hefty nearly 700 bucks. if not more. Even if I were to get the Moto Z, pricing would still be about 400 at best.

Well Snail, seeing as you are the only one still doing Chimera gaming phones, let's see what you got.
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: dilemina on July 06, 2017, 10:43:25 pm
Moto z has way better specs, if you can get it with the gamepad for 400, it would be a good deal in my opinion.

Moto z has even better specs than z2play!

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Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: R2112 on July 07, 2017, 05:00:42 pm
Ok Snail! While I've always been a fan of Snail's gaming phone designs, from my brief past experience, the major issue lies with the phone aspect. Namely, carrier support. Here is the US, their devices lack the required bands to be consistently connected. Gaming device wise, I enjoyed both the 78P01, and the W3D. Beyond their apparent faults, gaming was great with these devices. But data connection and phone calls were virtually non existent. I am still unsure what happened with my 78P01 and W3D. They both just got restricted from using towers after a while.

I really hope they concentrate more on the phone aspect of the device, otherwise it'll become just another Android Gaming device, in which there are better alternatives.

Nevertheless, the gaming kid in me is still excited about this and hoping it finally addresses the issues of the past. Seems they finally stepped into Lollipop judging from the screenshots. The design reminds me of the GPD Q9. The rounded edges make it seem very pocket-able for its size. Still the same D-Pad design, i just hope it's more smooth moving. Fighting games were kind of tough with the older devices.

I assume with the omission of start and select, they will be soft buttons like the W3D. Also, with omission of L2 and R2, may make shooting games a tad more complicated for mapping.

That price point is also highly competitive. My alternative is the MOTO Z2PLAY with Gamepad MotoMod, which when combined, would be a hefty nearly 700 bucks. if not more. Even if I were to get the Moto Z, pricing would still be about 400 at best.

Well Snail, seeing as you are the only one still doing Chimera gaming phones, let's see what you got.

I, like you, am extremely frustrated with my options for true mobile gaming. There's barely any.

I have been considering just waiting for a new Note 8 and disassembling my 8BitDo Zero and literally building a new case for it out of a 3D printer that could attach to the bottom of whatever phone I buy. That's how desperate I am. I tried to get forum members here to back a phone with a gaming attachment during the "ZTE Build your own smartphone" contest, but it didn't get any traction.

I had not seen the Moto GamePad, so thank you for bringing that to my attention, however I don't know if I can bring myself to downgrade so far from a Snapdragon 805 that powers my current phone (Note 4 - also has IR Blaster for my TV / Stereo) and I hate carrying the Zero on my key ring at work as it just looks unprofessional.

The i7 looks like a decent solve, but I just don't know judging from my difficulties trying to acquire a W3D, and the eventual price hike (If it comes out the day it's supposed to, I'd be *OK* paying the price premium I guess, but it's almost assuredly going to be a wait...) but I'm willing to buy. Give me the chance, Snail, and don't screw me over!
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: R2112 on July 07, 2017, 09:39:43 pm
Thank you both R2112 and Sony for posting about this i7 gaming phone. I as an ex Xperia Play owner have been waiting a long time for a decent gaming smartphone, and here you've posted one with specs that have got me hyped. I for sure want the top of the line 8gb ram 128gb storage model.
Your welcome!
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: R2112 on July 07, 2017, 09:41:30 pm
6 GB ram or 8 in Android is quite absurd. It only makes it more expensive. 3 GB ram is more than enough for Android. Shield tv is a good example that 3 GB is enough.
I'd much rather have faster RAM than higher quantity of RAM, your right about that! It is pretty cheap now though so I don't mind the extra specs!
Title: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: dilemina on July 08, 2017, 01:56:59 am






I had not seen the Moto GamePad, so thank you for bringing that to my attention, however I don't know if I can bring myself to downgrade so far from a Snapdragon 805 that powers my current phone (Note 4)

Moto z has a snapdragon 820 quad core, usually clocked at 1.8ghz, but there are models clocked higher.

The moto z play and z2 play have the weaker snapdragon 625 and 626.

But the gamepad mod will work with all of them.



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Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: R2112 on July 08, 2017, 03:41:52 am






I had not seen the Moto GamePad, so thank you for bringing that to my attention, however I don't know if I can bring myself to downgrade so far from a Snapdragon 805 that powers my current phone (Note 4)

Moto z has a snapdragon 820 quad core, usually clocked at 1.8ghz, but there are models clocked higher.

The moto z play and z2 play have the weaker snapdragon 625 and 626.

But the gamepad mod will work with all of them.



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Ah thanks, didn't realize the different Moto Z's would all work. The 820 would be a nice step up!
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: DroidX2 on July 08, 2017, 06:20:53 am
Ok Snail! While I've always been a fan of Snail's gaming phone designs, from my brief past experience, the major issue lies with the phone aspect. Namely, carrier support. Here is the US, their devices lack the required bands to be consistently connected. Gaming device wise, I enjoyed both the 78P01, and the W3D. Beyond their apparent faults, gaming was great with these devices. But data connection and phone calls were virtually non existent. I am still unsure what happened with my 78P01 and W3D. They both just got restricted from using towers after a while.

I really hope they concentrate more on the phone aspect of the device, otherwise it'll become just another Android Gaming device, in which there are better alternatives.

Nevertheless, the gaming kid in me is still excited about this and hoping it finally addresses the issues of the past. Seems they finally stepped into Lollipop judging from the screenshots. The design reminds me of the GPD Q9. The rounded edges make it seem very pocket-able for its size. Still the same D-Pad design, i just hope it's more smooth moving. Fighting games were kind of tough with the older devices.

I assume with the omission of start and select, they will be soft buttons like the W3D. Also, with omission of L2 and R2, may make shooting games a tad more complicated for mapping.

That price point is also highly competitive. My alternative is the MOTO Z2PLAY with Gamepad MotoMod, which when combined, would be a hefty nearly 700 bucks. if not more. Even if I were to get the Moto Z, pricing would still be about 400 at best.

Well Snail, seeing as you are the only one still doing Chimera gaming phones, let's see what you got.

I, like you, am extremely frustrated with my options for true mobile gaming. There's barely any.

I have been considering just waiting for a new Note 8 and disassembling my 8BitDo Zero and literally building a new case for it out of a 3D printer that could attach to the bottom of whatever phone I buy. That's how desperate I am. I tried to get forum members here to back a phone with a gaming attachment during the "ZTE Build your own smartphone" contest, but it didn't get any traction.

I had not seen the Moto GamePad, so thank you for bringing that to my attention, however I don't know if I can bring myself to downgrade so far from a Snapdragon 805 that powers my current phone (Note 4 - also has IR Blaster for my TV / Stereo) and I hate carrying the Zero on my key ring at work as it just looks unprofessional.

The i7 looks like a decent solve, but I just don't know judging from my difficulties trying to acquire a W3D, and the eventual price hike (If it comes out the day it's supposed to, I'd be *OK* paying the price premium I guess, but it's almost assuredly going to be a wait...) but I'm willing to buy. Give me the chance, Snail, and don't screw me over!

It's odd that the Moto Gamepad hasn't been all that talked about. It kinda comes as exactly as I mentioned once, whereas, make a great phone, then make an attachable controller to go with it like a case. The controller has full featured buttons. The only reason I would consider the Snail is that the buttons are a part of the phone, and honestly, the design is really nice, even if it does completely rip off the PS Vita second edition.

As for acquiring the W3D, it's available on Aliexpress and OYEShop. But with this speculated to be 100 bucks cheaper, might as well wait. I'm also expecting that with the release of the Snail I7 (WHO NAMES THIS STUFF???) any support that the W3D would have had, even though there was none, will be pretty much non-existent.

However, all this with Snail, as happy as I want to be, I'm reminded of the W3D announcement, which came to great fanfare, all over tech news, pre-order on Amazon, and all that, only to come out 2 years late through the back door with no support for the device. It remains to be seen what Snail plans to do. Since both the Moto Mod gamepad and the Snail I7 seem to release along with each other, August will tell the tale.

By the way, what did ZTE decide on, I stopped checking after the gamepad mod didn't make the cut. Probably some flagship phone with a snapdragon attached to it.
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: Phawx on July 09, 2017, 04:06:35 am
Between Z2 + Gamepad and Snail i7, this is probably *the most* equipment we've seen in a long time.  These types of devices are seemingly so hard to convince people they should exist.

The usual arguments is, "why don't you just get a vita or 3DS and a nice phone?"

The argument annoys me so much because there are thousands of bar form-factor phones on the market.  To argue that it shouldn't exist when there have been less than 6 actual gaming phones to hit the market, I just don't understand it.

More than likely I'm going to stick with the Z2 as it has the Snapdragon 835, latest Android with very little skinning and nice dual camera.  Plus I can remove the gamepad when I don't need it. 

So looking forward to it.

Still, I'll probably like to look at a Snail i7.
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: SONY on July 09, 2017, 08:49:43 am
Z2? Sony Xperia Z2?
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: R2112 on July 09, 2017, 11:02:32 pm
I'd guess Z2 as in Moto Z2? Not sure if that device exists.

It's true- there's so very little innovation or differentiation in the cell market now it's insane. Not even ten years ago you could find keyboard slider devices, clam shell or flip style devices, all with mid to high end hardware and price points, etc.

Now you have almost nothing different in the entire market.

I just can't believe that no one wants to try anything different. I guess the market has changed to the point where an oddball device isn't worth it if it doesn't sell millions. Sony (the company not user here LOL) lost all of it's unique designs and trying crazy devices like it used to, and no one else is willing to deviate away from the candy bar iPhone clone.
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: Phawx on July 10, 2017, 12:38:54 am
Z2? Sony Xperia Z2?

Moto Z2.  Getting announced July 25th.
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: SONY on July 10, 2017, 03:12:55 am
Ah ok, thanks mate. I was thinking old school smartphones lol.
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: montie1965 on July 14, 2017, 08:39:57 am
This has my attention. Just wished that the premium version had the Helio x30 chipset.
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: dilemina on July 15, 2017, 12:47:07 am
This has my attention. Just wished that the premium version had the Helio x30 chipset.
Or a snapdragon 835+ or Samsung Processor.

Did you know that the earlier gamepad phones (much i4) made by this company were powered by Samsung Exynos processor? I believe it was Exynos 4412.

And many games with intense graphics would perform much better than on their later released phones like the much i5 and 78p01.

Too bad they didn't have a multiple device deal with Samsung, as their processors are much better for gaming than what mediatek has to offer.

Don't know how Helio processors perform though, and I bet it keeps the device price down a bit.

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Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: montie1965 on July 15, 2017, 05:37:37 am
A Snapdragon 835 would be great. (but probably expensive)
Chinese companys normally have Chinese chipsets in their mobiles because they can get the chipsets cheaper.
The Helio x30 seems like a decent Chinese chipset to me.
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: Miles Wolf on July 15, 2017, 01:03:43 pm
Oh look, it's another phone-console wich because of its stupid big size won't be able to be used as a phone!

And the machine isn't still available and its design already looks old, like from 2000.

I want a new version of Much G2, damn it!



Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: Phawx on July 15, 2017, 10:53:18 pm
Oh look, it's another phone-console wich because of its stupid big size won't be able to be used as a phone!

And the machine isn't still available and its design already looks old, like from 2000.

I want a new version of Much G2, damn it!

The only thing I'm concerned about is the protruding analog sticks.

(http://i.imgur.com/mDloXmI.png)

Really is unfortunate that a slider gaming phone hasn't been made since the Xperia Play.
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: Miles Wolf on July 16, 2017, 02:01:40 pm
Really is unfortunate that a slider gaming phone hasn't been made since the Xperia Play.

The slider design has two main problems:

- Overheats easier than a non-sliding machine. The PSVita was going to have a sliding desing and this reason made Sony change it.

- Flex cable problems. Something very very common in the PSP Go and the Xperia Play.
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: DroidX2 on July 16, 2017, 05:36:32 pm
Really is unfortunate that a slider gaming phone hasn't been made since the Xperia Play.

The slider design has two main problems:

- Overheats easier than a non-sliding machine. The PSVita was going to have a sliding desing and this reason made Sony change it.

- Flex cable problems. Something very very common in the PSP Go and the Xperia Play.

Very true. I have an Xperia Play now that is having a flex cable issue. It would be my second time repairing it. However, a minor issue when it comes to the greatness of the design. I still think the Xperia Play was the step child of Sony, and was rushed out when the merger with Ericsson was coming to a close.

As for overheating on the Xplay, it's my first time hearing about it.

As for the Snail i7, I think the design is nice, and won't be any bigger than an iPhone 6 with an Otterbox on it, although admittedly, that's still some heft.
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: R2112 on July 16, 2017, 05:44:28 pm
Had there been an Xplay 2 with a dual core and double the ram I'd probably still be rocking it.
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: DroidX2 on July 16, 2017, 05:50:22 pm
Heck yeah, just last year I was still rocking the original Xplay. The slider design was best for turning the device into a phone or gaming device on the fly. That design also allows for better button placement, such as Start and Select, heck, maybe even a Share button. They could even use the extra space to add a logo of sorts to the middle, or L3 and R3.
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: dilemina on July 16, 2017, 08:09:17 pm
I wonder, if Sony, or another company did make a successor to the Xperia Play, with slide-out controls, good specs, and actual AAA titles (probably only Sony could do this). If it would fare better than the past handhelds or other sets of Sony phones.

How would it compare?

What would be the benchmark for success?

How could Sony convince game developers that the platform could be viable for their AAA games?

Anyway, this type of stuff has been talked about on here before.

I hope that the new Snail i7 actually fixes the stupid joystick driver problem that plagues all of their devices.




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Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: DroidX2 on July 16, 2017, 11:46:22 pm
I wonder, if Sony, or another company did make a successor to the Xperia Play, with slide-out controls, good specs, and actual AAA titles (probably only Sony could do this). If it would fare better than the past handhelds or other sets of Sony phones.

How would it compare?

What would be the benchmark for success?

How could Sony convince game developers that the platform could be viable for their AAA games?

Anyway, this type of stuff has been talked about on here before.

I hope that the new Snail i7 actually fixes the stupid joystick driver problem that plagues all of their devices.




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Yeah, among other software hiccups that plaque the older devices, like the refresh rate. As for Sony making a new Xplay, well, I doubt that honestly. Even with the greatest sales pitch, at best, Sony is only interested in the smartphone gaming market, which is touch screen only, so no need for dedicated hardware. I thought maybe ForwardWorks from Sony would bring some change, but they are probably just a middleman for Sony to release their franchises to mobile.

Hate to say it, but in the phone/gaming hybrid market, Snail is all we have. Closest runner up is Motorola with the MotoMod gamepad.
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: dilemina on July 17, 2017, 04:22:06 am
I wonder, if Sony, or another company did make a successor to the Xperia Play, with slide-out controls, good specs, and actual AAA titles (probably only Sony could do this). If it would fare better than the past handhelds or other sets of Sony phones.

How would it compare?

What would be the benchmark for success?

How could Sony convince game developers that the platform could be viable for their AAA games?

Anyway, this type of stuff has been talked about on here before.

I hope that the new Snail i7 actually fixes the stupid joystick driver problem that plagues all of their devices.




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Yeah, among other software hiccups that plaque the older devices, like the refresh rate. As for Sony making a new Xplay, well, I doubt that honestly. Even with the greatest sales pitch, at best, Sony is only interested in the smartphone gaming market, which is touch screen only, so no need for dedicated hardware. I thought maybe ForwardWorks from Sony would bring some change, but they are probably just a middleman for Sony to release their franchises to mobile.

Hate to say it, but in the phone/gaming hybrid market, Snail is all we have. Closest runner up is Motorola with the MotoMod gamepad.


Agree with you there. Although, if Sony does come out with another handheld console, I think the smartest thing to do would be to make it a smartphone.

I doubt they will though, considering the hoops they would have to run through to get exclusive software in the thing, and the side loading that android devices allow would probably doom it from third party AAA development.

A dude can dream though.

Anyways, good luck to snail. I like the design and build quality of most of ireadygo's stuff. They just need to improve at putting in those obvious fixes that get more irritating with each successive product they produce, because they all tend to have the same problems.


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Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: siegel17701 on July 17, 2017, 05:13:30 am
Any word on release date?

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Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: R2112 on July 17, 2017, 02:48:43 pm
Original article says July 30th for more info / release, but I wouldn't hold my breath on that one if the W3D was anything to go by. That took years to actually materialize.

Interestingly, I found this
"Helio X20 (MT6797) is a 64-bit deca-core ARM LTE system on a chip designed by MediaTek and introduced in early 2016. This SoC incorporates 3 independent clusters of cores (called "Tri-Cluster" by MediaTek) operating at varying degrees of performance designed for certain workloads (operating at 1.4 GHz, 1.85 GHz, and 2.3 GHz) and supports up to 6 GiB of dual-channel LPDDR3-1866 memory. This SoC also incorporates a Mali-T800 MP4 IGP operating at 780 MHz. The chip has a modem supporting LTE User Equipment (UE) category 6."

Bold is my own emphasis - since it tops out at 6GB, I wonder if there's a better chip along with the 8GB/128GB version?
Source: https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/mediatek/helio/mt6797
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: DroidX2 on July 17, 2017, 07:04:50 pm
Original article says July 30th for more info / release, but I wouldn't hold my breath on that one if the W3D was anything to go by. That took years to actually materialize.

Interestingly, I found this
"Helio X20 (MT6797) is a 64-bit deca-core ARM LTE system on a chip designed by MediaTek and introduced in early 2016. This SoC incorporates 3 independent clusters of cores (called "Tri-Cluster" by MediaTek) operating at varying degrees of performance designed for certain workloads (operating at 1.4 GHz, 1.85 GHz, and 2.3 GHz) and supports up to 6 GiB of dual-channel LPDDR3-1866 memory. This SoC also incorporates a Mali-T800 MP4 IGP operating at 780 MHz. The chip has a modem supporting LTE User Equipment (UE) category 6."

Bold is my own emphasis - since it tops out at 6GB, I wonder if there's a better chip along with the 8GB/128GB version?
Source: https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/mediatek/helio/mt6797


Hmmm, that is interesting indeed? If the wiki info is correct, that does raise the question. Good find!



Anyways, good luck to snail. I like the design and build quality of most of ireadygo's stuff. They just need to improve at putting in those obvious fixes that get more irritating with each successive product they produce, because they all tend to have the same problems.


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That statement clearly sums up a Snail release.
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: Phawx on July 17, 2017, 08:27:04 pm
Any word on release date?

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I contacted them and they said sometime in August
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: siegel17701 on July 17, 2017, 11:09:57 pm
Awesome. Do we know if it will come with NFC or rooted? Are there any real specs listed. I would live lte bands for the US. Can't wait for the gpd xd vs. videos!

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Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: DroidX2 on July 18, 2017, 12:13:15 am
Any word on release date?

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I contacted them and they said sometime in August

Wait, they actually responded??? Maybe they're serious this time!
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: dilemina on July 18, 2017, 03:11:54 am
When (if) it comes out, I would buy it from this store https://muchsm.tmall.com/shop/view_shop.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.79.ebb2eb2oSxzT7&user_number_id=931140300 (https://muchsm.tmall.com/shop/view_shop.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.79.ebb2eb2oSxzT7&user_number_id=931140300)

Seems to be unofficially the official store for Snail/MUCH/iReadyGO products.

Better prices than the oye store and other resellers, but need google translate if you don't know Chinese.


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Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: DroidX2 on July 18, 2017, 03:06:36 pm
When (if) it comes out, I would buy it from this store https://muchsm.tmall.com/shop/view_shop.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.79.ebb2eb2oSxzT7&user_number_id=931140300 (https://muchsm.tmall.com/shop/view_shop.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.79.ebb2eb2oSxzT7&user_number_id=931140300)

Seems to be unofficially the official store for Snail/MUCH/iReadyGO products.

Better prices than the oye store and other resellers, but need google translate if you don't know Chinese.


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Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: SONY on July 18, 2017, 10:07:26 pm
When (if) it comes out, I would buy it from this store https://muchsm.tmall.com/shop/view_shop.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.79.ebb2eb2oSxzT7&user_number_id=931140300 (https://muchsm.tmall.com/shop/view_shop.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.79.ebb2eb2oSxzT7&user_number_id=931140300)

Seems to be unofficially the official store for Snail/MUCH/iReadyGO products.

Better prices than the oye store and other resellers, but need google translate if you don't know Chinese.


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Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: siegel17701 on July 18, 2017, 10:36:38 pm
When (if) it comes out, I would buy it from this store https://muchsm.tmall.com/shop/view_shop.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.79.ebb2eb2oSxzT7&user_number_id=931140300 (https://muchsm.tmall.com/shop/view_shop.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.79.ebb2eb2oSxzT7&user_number_id=931140300)

Seems to be unofficially the official store for Snail/MUCH/iReadyGO products.

Better prices than the oye store and other resellers, but need google translate if you don't know Chinese.


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Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: dilemina on July 18, 2017, 11:49:36 pm
When (if) it comes out, I would buy it from this store https://muchsm.tmall.com/shop/view_shop.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.79.ebb2eb2oSxzT7&user_number_id=931140300 (https://muchsm.tmall.com/shop/view_shop.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.79.ebb2eb2oSxzT7&user_number_id=931140300)

Seems to be unofficially the official store for Snail/MUCH/iReadyGO products.

Better prices than the oye store and other resellers, but need google translate if you don't know Chinese.


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Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: siegel17701 on July 19, 2017, 12:33:20 am
Snail does not seem to care about there products since they don't update the merchandise side of their website. Still has 2 year old press releases for the W3D.

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Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: R2112 on July 19, 2017, 02:56:24 am
Snail does not seem to care about there products since they don't update the merchandise side of their website. Still has 2 year old press releases for the W3D.

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Not to mention that Snail apparently already pushed the date back (since multiple news sources say July 30) and Phawx (sp?) who contacted them said August LOL
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: LordDavon on July 19, 2017, 04:32:21 am

I contacted them and they said sometime in August

They've not even responded to me.  I'm just asking them if they'd consider my doing a ROM for their devices.  Bah!
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: Skelton-retired on July 19, 2017, 09:09:17 am

I contacted them and they said sometime in August

They've not even responded to me.  I'm just asking them if they'd consider my doing a ROM for their devices.  Bah!
They never release source Code or kernel Code, so a rom would be just a repacked stock rom. Snail people doesn't like external devs, which is a shame because their firmwares suck a lot.
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: LordDavon on July 19, 2017, 07:11:03 pm
They never release source Code or kernel Code, so a rom would be just a repacked stock rom. Snail people doesn't like external devs, which is a shame because their firmwares suck a lot.

It'd be a great advantage having community support.  It's a shame.
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: NTMBK on July 25, 2017, 03:06:46 pm
6 GB ram or 8 in Android is quite absurd. It only makes it more expensive. 3 GB ram is more than enough for Android. Shield tv is a good example that 3 GB is enough.

3GB is a good example that NVidia are tight-fisted bastards.
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: Phawx on July 25, 2017, 11:05:58 pm
Looks like the Moto Gamepad mod does have 4 shoulder buttons, they are just really close togther
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: SONY on July 26, 2017, 03:22:10 am
You got any close-up pics for us to check out?
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: DroidX2 on July 26, 2017, 04:10:21 am
You got any close-up pics for us to check out?

If you mean of the Moto Gamepad, there's a thread here:

http://boards.dingoonity.org/android-devices/android-gaming-controller-lenovo-vs-indiegogo/15/

--with links to pics and vids of it. As for the Snail Mobile, so far after much searching, only what was released seems to be available. It's stated to release next month, but with Snail that could be next month, in 2018, lol!
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: DroidX2 on July 29, 2017, 07:37:56 pm
Well, seems like Snail holding up their end of the deal. They have it up for preorder now. I admit, the black and gold design is nice!

http://mall.snail.com/item/2096-426-0.html?jz_flow=1846

Taking a look, I see the supported data bands, and they seem to be the same as the W3D, which kinda scares me, since my W3D doesn't seem to connect to the towers out here. But works fine everywhere farther away........still no clue why.

Anyhow, price is confirmed at ? 1799 ($267.00) so that's a plus. I don't see an official release date though, but it seems Belchine.net has it listed, and on Belchine's Facebook there's a date of August 15. So where has Diabloutinbouky been with this info, lol!
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: siegel17701 on July 29, 2017, 09:53:44 pm
Wait for it to hit geekbuying or gearbest.

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Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: SONY on July 29, 2017, 11:06:03 pm
You got any close-up pics for us to check out?

If you mean of the Moto Gamepad, there's a thread here:

http://boards.dingoonity.org/android-devices/android-gaming-controller-lenovo-vs-indiegogo/15/

--with links to pics and vids of it. As for the Snail Mobile, so far after much searching, only what was released seems to be available. It's stated to release next month, but with Snail that could be next month, in 2018, lol!

Sorry, I misread what @Phawx said...I thought @Phawx was talking about the Snail i7 phone. My bad :(
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: DroidX2 on August 02, 2017, 10:30:53 pm
Hmmm, Belchine showing in stock for the Snail Mobile i7

http://www.belchine.net/index.php?id_product=269&controller=product&id_lang=1
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: siegel17701 on August 06, 2017, 11:41:32 pm
Update?

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Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: DroidX2 on August 07, 2017, 07:34:43 pm
Although I'm going with the Moto Mod, this device still intrigues me. I'd like to see how it pans out. Here is an article from a show done in Japan. It even explains the meaning behind the name of the device. If not fluent in Katakana, or Kanji, Google translate required.

http://game.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/1073206.html
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: SONY on August 16, 2017, 09:45:50 pm
Isn't anyone put off by the fact that​ this thing might be lacking L2 or R2 or start or select buttons?
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: siegel17701 on August 16, 2017, 10:48:23 pm
Isn't anyone put off by the fact that​ this thing might be lacking L2 or R2 or start or select buttons?
I maid that comment a while ago. Not really designed for emulation.

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Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: R2112 on August 17, 2017, 01:57:47 am
The R2/L2 Start Select missing wouldn't be enough to deter me from buying.
I carry a 8BitDo Zero on my key chain with me everywhere and it works great for most games. It doesn't have a ton of buttons but I find when I want to do some serious gaming I am generally using my laptop anyway. This would have all those and then some thanks to the analog sticks. I can live with that for sure!
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: siegel17701 on August 17, 2017, 03:04:03 am
I would mostly use it for Android gaming. I get a crap ton of games through HumbleBundle. I have an XD but the layout isn't great for touch only games.

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Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: DroidX2 on August 17, 2017, 03:35:55 pm
Isn't anyone put off by the fact that​ this thing might be lacking L2 or R2 or start or select buttons?

Not really, although it does hinder shooters, and lots of emulation since controllers have had 4 shoulder buttons since the PSOne. The omission of Start and Select was more of a hindrance honestly. With Snail, I just wish they would support more bands of service with their devices. There's so many LTE bands out there, but the device only supports 8 of them? I'm quite sure the Mediatek chip can handle more than that.
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: siegel17701 on August 20, 2017, 08:59:47 pm
I think this will be like the Matrimax iPlay 7, GPD XD 2, etc. In Devices that have promise but never materialize. Even the W3D never had wide release.

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Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: Skelton-retired on August 20, 2017, 10:16:41 pm
I think this will be like the Matrimax iPlay 7, GPD XD 2, etc. In Devices that have promise but never materialize. Even the W3D never had wide release.

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Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: siegel17701 on August 20, 2017, 10:28:52 pm
I think this will be like the Matrimax iPlay 7, GPD XD 2, etc. In Devices that have promise but never materialize. Even the W3D never had wide release.

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The matrimax iplay was released and the gpd xd 2 is in progress, but won't be available until 2018, since gpd is more focused in gpd win 2, which give more sales to them.
I know the matrimax was released, but good luck finding it. Unless you know places that I don't. I know it is outdated tech at this point but it still looks cool. It can go in my drawer with my psp go, ps vita and other devices I only play for a few minutes every couple months.

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Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: Skelton-retired on August 20, 2017, 10:47:10 pm
Probably wasn't sold very much and was discontinued. The company didn't do much advertising, and together with the price and some bugs like bad screen refresh in hz probably made that it wasn't a success, so I suppose the company discontinued quickly. Same destiny that will happen with jxd s192k most probably
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: siegel17701 on August 21, 2017, 01:06:29 am
If the jxd s192 price drops below $200 I'll take a flyer, but I doubt that will ever happen. These devices price themselves out all the time.

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Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on August 25, 2017, 12:04:07 pm
Any updates as to when the 8gb ram 128gb rom model of the Snail/ Much i7 will be available and were to buy one?
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: DroidX2 on August 25, 2017, 05:10:36 pm
Any updates as to when the 8gb ram 128gb rom model of the Snail/ Much i7 will be available and were to buy one?

According to Belchine, the higher spec model will be available next month, probably around the time iPhone 8 is announced. Should be available through the usual channel TaoBao. The First version is available now through Snail and Belchine though.

I would be on it, but with AT&T being finicky about their network, I can't chance it.
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on August 25, 2017, 07:31:37 pm
Thank's very much DroidX2!
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: siegel17701 on August 26, 2017, 04:59:07 pm
Is there a translated Taoboa site for the US?

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Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: DroidX2 on August 26, 2017, 05:35:51 pm
Currently, it's not available at TaoBao, but here's a link to where it's available.

Not sure how to order from here, but you can navigate with Google Translate.

https://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?spm=a220o.1000855.1998025129.1.5c90c348jxQEtZ&abtest=_AB-LR32-PR32&pvid=b3a36f5b-f623-4443-a41d-63786cb73765&pos=1&abbucket=_AB-M32_B15&acm=03054.1003.1.1539344&id=557362428444&scm=1007.12144.81309.23864_0&sku_properties=1627207:28341;122216431:27772

Here, it's a bit more expensive, but a good and trusted seller, it's English and takes Paypal.

http://www.belchine.net/index.php?id_product=269&controller=product&id_lang=1



Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: Phawx on September 01, 2017, 04:54:30 am
Since feeling the W3D and the nice dpad, I was interested in the i7 but it looks like it doesn't support any TMo LTE bands.

I hate waiting for the perfect gaming phone.
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: DroidX2 on September 01, 2017, 05:50:57 am
Since feeling the W3D and the nice dpad, I was interested in the i7 but it looks like it doesn't support any TMo LTE bands.

I hate waiting for the perfect gaming phone.

Yeah, the band support is my only issue with the W3D. Even then, it was still my daily driver. I was hoping with the SNAIL I7, and the extreme dependence on LTE bands nowadays, they would have put more emphasis on LTE Band support seeing as they plan to bring to Western Markets. But the only way for that would be to have the device go through the Carrier bootcamp to be considered a certified device.

One can hope. Snail does great design, they just falter in the software department. Honestly, if Snail released a device, then released the source code, indie devs would fix all the issues just to have a fully featured gaming phone. I'm still watching this one though.
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: DroidX2 on September 04, 2017, 09:01:01 pm
Hey all! Seems the Snail I7 is in stock on Aliexpress as well.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/DHL-Fast-Delivery-Snail-W3D-4G-FDD-LTE-3D-Game-Cell-Phone-MTK6595-Octa-Core-Android/32423765055.html?spm=2114.12010108.1000013.2.7d847a7e78WIH&traffic_analysisId=recommend_2088_1_82199_new&scm=1007.13339.82199.0&pvid=cf1aa7ea-72a7-41b4-967b-1e29b3e0cfd2&tpp=1

Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: SONY on September 05, 2017, 12:46:09 am
I hope there'll be reviews of this on YouTube soon.
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: Phawx on September 05, 2017, 02:37:43 am
More than likely this will not have the play store installed, right?

Also looks like I wouldn't even get LTE on t-mobile :/

Looks like Cricket would be the only choice
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: siegel17701 on September 05, 2017, 03:45:51 am
Hopefully the 128gb version is soon coming.

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Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: DroidX2 on September 05, 2017, 04:46:23 pm
Hopefully the 128gb version is soon coming.

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Yeah, and looking for the western release they promised. Hopefully, they get some carrier support this time. So far I've been checking the Snail forums and haven't heard any bad reports regarding the device. I can only translate so much, but issues or problems tend to sound off when present.

Not much in the form of information, unless you understand the spoken language, but there is an un-boxing video along with other threads about the device. This means Snail has officially released it, so the reports of availability on other websites is accurate.

http://bbs.snail.com/forum-69-1.html

Lets's hope they follow up with the western release this time.
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: siegel17701 on September 21, 2017, 10:59:22 pm
Been quiet, anyone get this yet?

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Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: montie1965 on October 08, 2017, 10:56:36 am
Here goes nothing (possibly)
Here's a short crappy review of my snail mobile i7 phone.
I've had it for a little over a week now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDZsVm2356g&feature=youtu.be

i wasn't really gonna do a review. Cause normally I follow others reviews before a buy.
But since I needed a new mobile , and I had skipped the W3d and Much W1 phone.
I just went out & brought it.

Phone was brought from here.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/DHL-Fast-Delivery-Snail-W3D-4G-FDD-LTE-3D-Game-Cell-Phone-MTK6595-Octa-Core-Android/32423765055.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.163.oBqUbb&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_5_10152_10065_10151_10130_10068_10344_10342_10343_10340_10341_10307_10060_10131_10155_10132_10133_10154_10056_10055_10054_5370015_10059_10534_10533_10532_100031_10099_10338_10339_10103_10102_10052_10053_10107_10050_10142_10051_9987_10084_10083_10080_10082_10081_10110_5590015_10175_10111_10112_10113_10114_10312_10313_10314_10078_10079_10073-10051_9987,searchweb201603_24,ppcSwitch_4&btsid=274aabab-f22b-4b4b-b1d0-c41e5fa716bb&algo_expid=4a67d856-22cc-47e2-81aa-162a6956fa6c-21&algo_pvid=4a67d856-22cc-47e2-81aa-162a6956fa6c

In the video i've compared it to a  Ps vita , Gpd Win and my old 6 inch mobile. (you can see the size differences)

1st impressions
Phone is not Rooted and it doesn't have Google store on it.
The 6inch screen is great (for me anyway) for emulations etc.
The controls are just do-able for me.

I'm sure there will be some more questions coming my way...

p.s. take no notice of the time stamp on the video , it's incorrect...
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: silvacrest on October 08, 2017, 01:18:02 pm
Thanks for the video and comparison, can you confirm there is no SD slot, im pretty sure there isnt but i would like to know for sure.

i think its strange that i never heard of a 4GB RAM model until you showed it just now, and the battery seems to be slightly smaller then i thought it would be.

so what do you think of the general performance and gaming performance? have you figured out how to put google play store on it? and would you recommend this device to someone who is into these types of devices?

Thanks.
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: montie1965 on October 08, 2017, 02:00:01 pm
Yes there's NO SD card slot & yes there's only 4 GB of ram ( but thats plenty in my view)
There is space for 2 SIMS.
And battery is 5800mAh instead of 6000mAh but it's removeable.
Performance still feels the same as my old lenovo k920 snapdragon 801. There still some performance problems with
some games in emulations (like gran turismo in PPSSPP emulator)(even with some frame skipping it still lags)
But I normally play tactical rpg games so it shouldn't affect me to much.
There's no google store , and from what I've found out is that you need to to have root to install it.
I won't be installing it . till I find  a guide thats reliable & working.
Even with these short comings I still love the device. Screen size is great (i can't go back to the PS vita small screen now)
I'm taking my time learning the controls (I'm from a playstation background not an X-box background)
The device feels well made (probably not up to PS Vita standards) but still OK.
I got it for a little under $500 australian dollars. that sounds like alot (but apple /samsung phones are much more than that)
Its not pockable. I've got two different ninento switch bags/pouch coming in. lets see which one fits it better.

p.s. its also a fingerprint magnet...
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: siegel17701 on October 08, 2017, 09:00:27 pm
Good overview montie!

Im hoping someone compares to the GPD XD and the other snail devices.

No sd card is a bummer. Sometimes the second sim doubles as an sd card reader.

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Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: LordDavon on October 09, 2017, 01:02:22 am

No sd card is a bummer. Sometimes the second sim doubles as an sd card reader.


Just got my youngest daughter a Leeco Le S3, which can't use the second SIM as an SD Card reader either.  Bugged me, since I read a review that said it could... then read a bunch that it couldn't after.  I'm okay, since it was just over $100.  Really nice for the price too.
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: montie1965 on October 09, 2017, 03:26:13 pm
Give me a day or two and I'll try and do another video.
I'll try and make it less crappy than the other one...
I'll throw in some bench tests etc....
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: Faust on October 10, 2017, 04:03:52 pm
It's a bit weird, I have the Much I5S, but I have access to a micro sd slot. What's the point to remove the micro sd card slot.

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Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: montie1965 on October 10, 2017, 05:35:09 pm
Of course having more memory is always better... but you can still live with 64GB its not a deal breaker for me.
4 GB of ram is also plenty enough , its an android device not a win 10 device...

I did own a Much G2 phone awhile back , and that also had a SD card slot.
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: siegel17701 on October 10, 2017, 10:05:34 pm
Of course having more memory is always better... but you can still live with 64GB its not a deal breaker for me.
4 GB of ram is also plenty enough , its an android device not a win 10 device...

I did own a Much G2 phone awhile back , and that also had a SD card slot.
You can live with 64gb . I have 256GB on my current phone and could use more!

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Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: montie1965 on October 11, 2017, 01:47:21 am
Slight less crappy review is up (it's still crappy in my mind)
The video / sound quality is poor. (i was having trouble with my little cheap fake chinese go pro camera)

https://youtu.be/pWTr8ylB2eQ

The intro was videoed from the i7 phone (so you can see the video quality)
Took back cover off so you can see only 2 sim card slots (no sd card slot)
talked about joysticks and buttons. (forgot to mention that theres no start , select or L2 , R2 buttons)(I've got them mapped on the screen when needed)
Talking about mapping you might have noticed me moving a MOQI icon on the screen around. Thats the phone button mapping app. it turns on with every app you use. (I haven't played around with it much yet. And it looks alot more
complex than the previous button mapping apps I've used in the past.)(Also I haven't figured a way to turn it off)
Next I ran some bench tests
Aida64
Antutu
and Geekbench 4

Hopefully you might have found some useful or interesting information in this clip....

p.s. that voice really does not sound like me on the video clip...



Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: DroidX2 on October 11, 2017, 03:32:32 pm
Slight less crappy review is up (it's still crappy in my mind)
The video / sound quality is poor. (i was having trouble with my little cheap fake chinese go pro camera)

https://youtu.be/pWTr8ylB2eQ

The intro was videoed from the i7 phone (so you can see the video quality)
Took back cover off so you can see only 2 sim card slots (no sd card slot)
talked about joysticks and buttons. (forgot to mention that theres no start , select or L2 , R2 buttons)(I've got them mapped on the screen when needed)
Talking about mapping you might have noticed me moving a MOQI icon on the screen around. Thats the phone button mapping app. it turns on with every app you use. (I haven't played around with it much yet. And it looks alot more
complex than the previous button mapping apps I've used in the past.)(Also I haven't figured a way to turn it off)
Next I ran some bench tests
Aida64
Antutu
and Geekbench 4

Hopefully you might have found some useful or interesting information in this clip....

p.s. that voice really does not sound like me on the video clip...





Thanks for the vid Montie! The video quality was pretty good considering it was recorded from the i7. Seems to be a good device. Also, as with the older Much devices, there should be an option to hide the Button mapper icon in SETTINGS - PERSONALIZATION.

Also, root could probably be achieved using King Root or something like that, but that up to you if you want to go that route.

Overall, the device looks great and performs great, as expected. My only gripe is still the fact of the LTE band support. With only 4 bands, there's no way I could use it here in the US.

Really weird they went with no expandable SD Card slot. Very odd considering a gaming phone if anything would require the most storage. Not exactly a deal breaker, but otherwise odd. Well, at least it doesn't have the SD Card issue the W3D Had, lol! Can't fix it, eliminate it, lol!

Anyway, hopefully they still plan to release the western model, but I'm sure patents will prevent it from being domesticated.
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: montie1965 on October 12, 2017, 09:26:39 am
I had a look in settings but no PERSONALIZATION . But there was a MOQI customization and I've turned everything there off. (icon is still there)
I've got KING ROOT app already but I'm not game enough to run it , just incase it turns my phone into a brick. I'll let someone else be the guinea pig...
I had checked the Australian LTE band support before I had brought the phone.
Yes it is weird that doesn't no SD card slot. (I think there will be another i7 phone with more ram / memory in the future)

I do like this phone (it just feels like a slightly larger ps vita in my hands)
I think in a year or two the i8 or i9 might loook like the nintendo switch. (the chinese like to copy others designs)
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: DroidX2 on October 12, 2017, 07:09:43 pm
I had a look in settings but no PERSONALIZATION . But there was a MOQI customization and I've turned everything there off. (icon is still there)
I've got KING ROOT app already but I'm not game enough to run it , just incase it turns my phone into a brick. I'll let someone else be the guinea pig...
I had checked the Australian LTE band support before I had brought the phone.
Yes it is weird that doesn't no SD card slot. (I think there will be another i7 phone with more ram / memory in the future)

I do like this phone (it just feels like a slightly larger ps vita in my hands)
I think in a year or two the i8 or i9 might loook like the nintendo switch. (the chinese like to copy others designs)


Interesting. There should be something there to hide it. Might just be dug deep in settings some where. I envy that phone. It has a button mapper, so you can play the games that don't have controller compatibility, like Shadow Fight 2 or Sonic All Stars racing. I even tried installing the W3D button mapper to my phone to see if it would operate, lol!

Which LTE bands does it run on? Last i checked, the band support was the same as the W3D, which is really the only reason I sold it, because I was unable to use it as a phone properly. Last in checked, the I7 supported LTE 1, 3, 7, 17, 25, and I think 39, 40, and 42? not too sure about the last 4.


Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: montie1965 on October 13, 2017, 02:56:16 am
I'm sure your right , there must be a way to turn off the MOQI icon from the screen (I just haven't figured it out yet)
I haven't used  the phone mapper yet. It does look very complicated compaired to my old much g2 phone , which was very simple to use. (when I can find some time I'll try and play with it)

From where I brought the phone from the phone frequencys where:
2G:GSM 850/900/1800/1900
3G:WCDMA 850/900/1900/2100
4G:FDD LTE 700/1800/2100/2600

Here in Australia I'm with Virgin which uses the Opus mobile towers. Some of the above frequencys does work on the Opus towers.
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: BlazingSoul on October 16, 2017, 04:10:12 pm
So this thing has no L2/R2 triggers?
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: siegel17701 on October 16, 2017, 04:38:47 pm
So this thing has no L2/R2 triggers?
No L2L3 R2R3 Start or Select

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Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: SephirothX2004 on October 20, 2017, 06:47:19 am
I got my i7 a few days ago here in Australia and i am pretty sure i don't like it. :-\
I knew it wasn't going to be on the level of my shield portable or jxd singularity in terms of power but i at least expected it to out perform my snail w1.

I can't play things like Robert Broglia's nes or snes emulators or even street fighter 3 on retroarch without stuttering and skipping.

They all ran great on the good old snail w1.

I can't play F-Zero 64 and Smash Bros. on this thing because they perform horribly and even though they didn't run perfectly on the snail w1 they were at least payable to me on it.

Maybe i'm missing something like some sort of performance option or the emulators aren't configured right but i'm no noob when it comes to running my emulators.

I have to confirm that like montie1965 said there is no micro sd card slot or compartment.
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: SONY on October 20, 2017, 11:23:05 am
@SephirothX2004

Also, pm sent :)
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: siegel17701 on October 20, 2017, 04:45:25 pm
I got my i7 a few days ago here in Australia and i am pretty sure i don't like it. :-\
I knew it wasn't going to be on the level of my shield portable or jxd singularity in terms of power but i at least expected it to out perform my snail w1.

I can't play things like Robert Broglia's nes or snes emulators or even street fighter 3 on retroarch without stuttering and skipping.

They all ran great on the good old snail w1.

I can't play F-Zero 64 and Smash Bros. on this thing because they perform horribly and even though they didn't run perfectly on the snail w1 they were at least payable to me on it.

Maybe i'm missing something like some sort of performance option or the emulators aren't configured right but i'm no noob when it comes to running my emulators.

I have to confirm that like montie1965 said there is no micro sd card slot or compartment.
So if i want strictly a handheld device i should just find the W1. What about the W3D?

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Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: montie1965 on October 21, 2017, 10:56:18 am
I got my i7 a few days ago here in Australia and i am pretty sure i don't like it. :-\
I knew it wasn't going to be on the level of my shield portable or jxd singularity in terms of power but i at least expected it to out perform my snail w1.

I can't play things like Robert Broglia's nes or snes emulators or even street fighter 3 on retroarch without stuttering and skipping.

They all ran great on the good old snail w1.

I can't play F-Zero 64 and Smash Bros. on this thing because they perform horribly and even though they didn't run perfectly on the snail w1 they were at least payable to me on it.

Maybe i'm missing something like some sort of performance option or the emulators aren't configured right but i'm no noob when it comes to running my emulators.

I have to confirm that like montie1965 said there is no micro sd card slot or compartment.

I agree that it's not up to a current Tegra SoC power. But I thought that any current android phone now would run nes or snes emulators well .(maybe I'm wrong).(retroarch has nearly a dozen versions of snes , so I thought something would have worked ok)
I never owned a W1 or W3D , but I still own a Shield portable. It has good power and great controls , but the screen is too small now for my aging eyes. (and its not a phone)
I also agree it's not the perfect system if people are looking for somethings that runs games at full frames per second.
But for me and the games I play (tactical/rpg games) it doesn't have to be full frames.
By the way some of the games I've tested (i.e. real racing 3 , demolition derby 2 etc) find the i7 controls automatically.
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: DroidX2 on October 21, 2017, 04:48:58 pm
I can take a guess and say that the Snail I7 is a mixed bag. Basically, a gaming phone in its own right. It has some compromises due to the target market. If they go Snapdragon or Tegra, the price would be too high to sell without subsidies or finance deals, so they went with the strongest chip that hit the price point, about the price of a new gaming console.

If they would have went with an older Tegra or Snapdragon, they would have probably gotten backlash for going with an under-powered device, but I think for the sake of the fact it is a gaming phone, Snapdragon and Adreno, even an older version would have probably been a better option.

As far as emulators, there must be something running in the background causing the slowdown. Try reinstalling the apps, and starting with default settings. For the Snail W1 and W3D, I used apps right out the Playstore and they worked great. I'd say at about 93 to 97%, but it wasn't an issue for me. It's a 64bit system, so if you haven't, please try Dolphin emulator for Gamecube and Wii emulation.

Also, for those with the Snail I7, Are any of you able to upload the Key Mapper from the system? I don't think there is a root method available yet, so probably not, but if anyone is able to, it'd be much appreciated. Got 5 bucks paypal for ya! Thanks!




Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: montie1965 on October 22, 2017, 01:00:56 am
I don't know how to pass on the key mapper. but here's an explanation of it.

http://bbs.snail.com/thread-73231-1-1.html

Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: SONY on October 22, 2017, 03:03:01 am
@montie1965

PM sent
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: SephirothX2004 on October 22, 2017, 05:51:33 am
So if i want strictly a handheld device i should just find the W1. What about the W3D?
Sadly i never had the W3D even though i really wanted one and it seems pretty hard to find now.

I agree that it's not up to a current Tegra SoC power. But I thought that any current android phone now would run nes or snes emulators well .(maybe I'm wrong).(retroarch has nearly a dozen versions of snes , so I thought something would have worked ok)
I never owned a W1 or W3D , but I still own a Shield portable. It has good power and great controls , but the screen is too small now for my aging eyes. (and its not a phone)
I also agree it's not the perfect system if people are looking for somethings that runs games at full frames per second.
But for me and the games I play (tactical/rpg games) it doesn't have to be full frames.
By the way some of the games I've tested (i.e. real racing 3 , demolition derby 2 etc) find the i7 controls automatically.
Retroarch actually seems to run things ok for the most part like the NES and SNES with a little hiccup in frame rate here and there but the input doesn't register the soft key back button for exiting which is bad for a device with hardly any physical buttons.
The soft key back button works with other emulators though just not Retroarch.

I am starting to slowly warm up to this device now as i have gotten Mupen64FZ Edition to run games at a satisfactory pace for me yet things like Retroarch's various Final Burn Alpha cores still have the odd frame rate skip here and there too when playing games like 1944 and Street Fighter 3 which is bad to me as arcade games are my favorite.

I have never tried any android games yet so i'll let you guys know how they go when i do.

I can take a guess and say that the Snail I7 is a mixed bag. Basically, a gaming phone in its own right. It has some compromises due to the target market. If they go Snapdragon or Tegra, the price would be too high to sell without subsidies or finance deals, so they went with the strongest chip that hit the price point, about the price of a new gaming console.

If they would have went with an older Tegra or Snapdragon, they would have probably gotten backlash for going with an under-powered device, but I think for the sake of the fact it is a gaming phone, Snapdragon and Adreno, even an older version would have probably been a better option.

As far as emulators, there must be something running in the background causing the slowdown. Try reinstalling the apps, and starting with default settings. For the Snail W1 and W3D, I used apps right out the Playstore and they worked great. I'd say at about 93 to 97%, but it wasn't an issue for me. It's a 64bit system, so if you haven't, please try Dolphin emulator for Gamecube and Wii emulation.

Also, for those with the Snail I7, Are any of you able to upload the Key Mapper from the system? I don't think there is a root method available yet, so probably not, but if anyone is able to, it'd be much appreciated. Got 5 bucks paypal for ya! Thanks!
The price is already too high if you ask me (AUD-$537.49 all up included shipping fee's).
There probably is something running in the background affecting this things performance but i haven't had a proper look yet.
I have tried rooting the device but i can't seem to do so yet.
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: montie1965 on October 22, 2017, 06:09:17 am
I'm glad your starting to warm up to it.
I paid  490 australian dollars total. (i guess it depends on the value of our dollar at the time)
I'm surely missing my favorite playstation one emulator (Fpse). No google play sometimes sucks...
All the old versions of Fpse I've got don't seem to work...
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: siegel17701 on October 22, 2017, 06:55:39 am
I'm glad your staring to warm up to it.
I paid  490 australian dollars total. (i guess it depends on the value of our dollar at the time)
I'm surely missing my favorite playstation one emulator (Fpse). No google play sometimes sucks...
All the old versions of Fpse I've got don't seem to work...
Do you have the GPD XD, if so can you compare it?

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Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: montie1965 on October 22, 2017, 08:52:47 am
Sorry I don't.
I only have a gpd win.
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: DroidX2 on October 22, 2017, 04:44:26 pm
I don't know how to pass on the key mapper. but here's an explanation of it.

http://bbs.snail.com/thread-73231-1-1.html

I see. It seems to be a little more robust than the previous ones. The reason I need it is because I want to try it on the Moto Z2Force to see if it will allow me to map the controller buttons without root. I tried the older mappers, they install, but don't activate. I'm pretty sure this one won't work either, but willing to try since all other touch screen button mappers require root access.
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: erikamey on October 24, 2017, 12:18:02 pm
Since feeling the W3D and the nice dpad, I was interested in the i7 but it looks like it doesn't support any TMo LTE bands.
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: DroidX2 on October 25, 2017, 03:56:26 pm
Since feeling the W3D and the nice dpad, I was interested in the i7 but it looks like it doesn't support any TMo LTE bands.

Yeah, Network support has been my dilemma with all the Snail devices. With both the 78P01 and the W3D. They worked ok for a while, but when AT&T started making changes, the devices stopped connecting. Still don't know why though.
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: DroidX2 on October 25, 2017, 04:05:34 pm
I'm glad your starting to warm up to it.
I paid  490 australian dollars total. (i guess it depends on the value of our dollar at the time)
I'm surely missing my favorite playstation one emulator (Fpse). No google play sometimes sucks...
All the old versions of Fpse I've got don't seem to work...

Montie, if you have another android device, you could place your google account on that device, purchase and install fpse, root that device and copy the fpse apk from it and transfer to the I7, from there, you should be able to install the most updated version.

You could do that for paid apps, and any free apps you could get from sites like apkmirror.com. There are 3rd party stores, but be Very cautious.
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: montie1965 on October 26, 2017, 04:40:45 am
Thanks for the advice. But all the newer versions of Fpse have ( some sort of copy protection)
The last version that didn't was v11.11 (if I remember correctly)And that didn't work on the i7.
The newer version did work but every few seconds kept coming up with a unregistered warning.
I do offically own Fpse on other devices.
Anyway ePSXe and PCSX ReARMed seem to work ok .
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: siegel17701 on November 29, 2017, 08:19:25 pm
Any updates on the 128gb version?

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Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: GSDGAL on May 05, 2018, 08:41:49 am
Is anyon know how to install google apps on that snail i7?
I can't use many useful apps without it

and anyone know where can i buy glass screen protector and case for it?
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: R2112 on June 06, 2018, 02:11:04 pm
Generally speaking, outside of China (in a market the phone isn't natively sold) it's hard to find accessories. When I had my MUCH i5, I used PSP / PS Vita cases instead, they seem to generally fit. Try your local Gamestop or Walmart if US/CA based and see if they fit.
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: joelbenitez513 on October 03, 2018, 10:09:02 pm
Any one has figured out how to do google apps and store? or can you point where i can get a tutorial, i been looking for months and no way how to root or install G store.
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: SONY on October 03, 2018, 10:28:07 pm
Why did you make a separate thread?
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: joelbenitez513 on October 04, 2018, 12:02:49 am
by mistake.
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: DroidX2 on October 10, 2018, 07:14:42 pm
Have you tried using Kingroot? It's a desktop application I used for rooting the W3D. The downside is that it installs Kinguser instead of SuperSU, which may not be as robust as SuperSU, but it does give root access. At least enough to flash a gapps package.
https://kingroot.net/

You should be able to find the latest gapps package from a good search. A gapps package is a compilation of Google apps that normally are installed on android deivces, which include Playstore among others.
https://www.theandroidsoul.com/download-nougat-gapps-7-0/


Not an official method, but it's what I would try. As with anything, be careful, proceed cautiously, and read everything. Good luck!

Please note that I recommend Kingroot due to my experience with past Snail devices, 78P01/W1 and W3D. The program successfully rooted both devices. I do not guarantee this program to root your device, or not cause adverse effects. While it is highly unlikely something will happen to your device, I'm only protecting myself from being hated if something does happen, lol. Proceed at your own risk.
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: joelbenitez513 on October 10, 2018, 07:42:29 pm
yeah i know what u mean, i tried a lot of different root apps and they didnt work. a bunch of king root and others. is bacause is a new chinnesse phone that pretty much none one has.
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: DroidX2 on October 13, 2018, 03:46:26 am
Oh I see. If those apps didn't work, I don't know. You may still be able to sideload gapps in the android recovery, but I don't know all the steps. Maybe the steps to root the W3D may work, but I'm only guessing at this point. To truly root would require adb access and allowing super user access to the device through terminal commands, but that goes beyond my knowledge.

There may be someone on the Snail forums that may have posted a method, but you'd need to translate the forums conversation, so information might be a bit scattered. It's gonna take some searching, and lots of trial and error. Good luck!

Also, maybe even finding a phone with similar hardware and software that has a root method. That method may work on your device, perhaps with some tweaking. As always proceed with caution.
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: joelbenitez513 on October 13, 2018, 03:52:59 am
thank you for your help, ill just wait till someone figures it out lol. i don't want to brick. i read too many forum about brick.
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: SephirothX2004 on February 11, 2019, 10:14:38 am
I now finally have the Google Play Store on my i7. ;D

All i did was email

[email protected]

I said:
Hello i really need Google PlayStore on my device if possible please.

Build Number: 8.0.129
Serial Number: ***************


That's all i had to do and they send out an update with the Play Store.
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: DroidX2 on February 22, 2019, 08:51:22 pm
Nice! Would you be able to share the firmware update?
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: SmashMan4 on March 11, 2019, 12:44:43 am
Does anyone know how to get it off Taobao without living in China? or get it somewhere is the US? I'm really interested in getting one at that price once I get the cash for it.
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: DroidX2 on March 11, 2019, 03:47:53 am
You can get it from Aliexpress.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Original-Snail-W3D-4G-FDD-LTE-3D-Game-Mobile-Phone-MTK6592-Octa-Core-Android-4-4/32275921397.html
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: alessandro.exe on March 13, 2019, 04:44:40 pm
Does anyone know how to get it off Taobao without living in China? or get it somewhere is the US? I'm really interested in getting one at that price once I get the cash for it.
SmashMan4, read here:
https://www.quora.com/Can-people-from-the-U-S-buy-from-Chinas-Taobao-without-using-an-agent
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: alessandro.exe on March 13, 2019, 05:49:41 pm
Friends, one good man from 4pda.ru has uploaded the firmware to this device along with TWRP Recovery, Google Apps and Root (Magisk):
https://yadi.sk/d/GEzjB1XNhXmxBA
But TWRP Recovery can only be used with a computer mouse connected via OTG, as the touchscreen does not work in this TWRP Recovery.
Can someone be refined this TWRP Recovery so that the touchscreen starts to work?
Here is a link to Snail MOQI i7 discussion on 4pda.ru:
https://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=894830
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: davidgilmour on May 07, 2019, 12:56:11 pm
You can get it from Aliexpress.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Original-Snail-W3D-4G-FDD-LTE-3D-Game-Mobile-Phone-MTK6592-Octa-Core-Android-4-4/32275921397.html
$350 at ali.
$270 at lightinthebox.

Is it fun owning this? How are the controls? Mushy or good?
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: DroidX2 on June 10, 2019, 05:34:39 pm
You can get it from Aliexpress.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Original-Snail-W3D-4G-FDD-LTE-3D-Game-Mobile-Phone-MTK6592-Octa-Core-Android-4-4/32275921397.html
$350 at ali.
$270 at lightinthebox.

Is it fun owning this? How are the controls? Mushy or good?

Unfortunately, I don't own it. I wanted to, but here in the US, the Cell companies don't play well with it. Plus, I'm on Verizon, which severely limits my options. But from past experiences with their older devices, in my opinion the buttons were good, not too mushy. D-Pad is reminiscent of the first d-pad from the original Xbox, from the Duke Controller. Basically, you can play fighting games with it. Basically 3rd party level d-pad.

Despite the network issues I had to endure, owning the device was a pure joy. It was basically a portable game console, that doubles as a phone. Nowadays, the Android system is basically just that, just only missing physical controls for the games that already play on it. Hopefully companies realize this and just make an un-intrusive gaming controller case for their phones.

If you bought it, enjoy! I use the Moto Gamepad with my Z2, and despite not having root for full button mapping, it works just fine as a phone and gaming device.
Title: Re: Snail Mobile i7
Post by: Jutleys on January 29, 2020, 11:35:57 am
My quick unboxing for the Moqi I7s https://youtu.be/TurTrwRQCWM