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Phawx

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Re: Snail Mobile i7
« Reply #20 on: July 09, 2017, 04:06:35 am »
Between Z2 + Gamepad and Snail i7, this is probably *the most* equipment we've seen in a long time.  These types of devices are seemingly so hard to convince people they should exist.

The usual arguments is, "why don't you just get a vita or 3DS and a nice phone?"

The argument annoys me so much because there are thousands of bar form-factor phones on the market.  To argue that it shouldn't exist when there have been less than 6 actual gaming phones to hit the market, I just don't understand it.

More than likely I'm going to stick with the Z2 as it has the Snapdragon 835, latest Android with very little skinning and nice dual camera.  Plus I can remove the gamepad when I don't need it. 

So looking forward to it.

Still, I'll probably like to look at a Snail i7.
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« Reply #21 on: July 09, 2017, 08:49:43 am »
Z2? Sony Xperia Z2?
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Re: Snail Mobile i7
« Reply #22 on: July 09, 2017, 11:02:32 pm »
I'd guess Z2 as in Moto Z2? Not sure if that device exists.

It's true- there's so very little innovation or differentiation in the cell market now it's insane. Not even ten years ago you could find keyboard slider devices, clam shell or flip style devices, all with mid to high end hardware and price points, etc.

Now you have almost nothing different in the entire market.

I just can't believe that no one wants to try anything different. I guess the market has changed to the point where an oddball device isn't worth it if it doesn't sell millions. Sony (the company not user here LOL) lost all of it's unique designs and trying crazy devices like it used to, and no one else is willing to deviate away from the candy bar iPhone clone.

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Re: Snail Mobile i7
« Reply #23 on: July 10, 2017, 12:38:54 am »
Z2? Sony Xperia Z2?

Moto Z2.  Getting announced July 25th.

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« Reply #24 on: July 10, 2017, 03:12:55 am »
Ah ok, thanks mate. I was thinking old school smartphones lol.
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montie1965

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Re: Snail Mobile i7
« Reply #25 on: July 14, 2017, 08:39:57 am »
This has my attention. Just wished that the premium version had the Helio x30 chipset.

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Re: Snail Mobile i7
« Reply #26 on: July 15, 2017, 12:47:07 am »
This has my attention. Just wished that the premium version had the Helio x30 chipset.
Or a snapdragon 835+ or Samsung Processor.

Did you know that the earlier gamepad phones (much i4) made by this company were powered by Samsung Exynos processor? I believe it was Exynos 4412.

And many games with intense graphics would perform much better than on their later released phones like the much i5 and 78p01.

Too bad they didn't have a multiple device deal with Samsung, as their processors are much better for gaming than what mediatek has to offer.

Don't know how Helio processors perform though, and I bet it keeps the device price down a bit.

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Re: Snail Mobile i7
« Reply #27 on: July 15, 2017, 05:37:37 am »
A Snapdragon 835 would be great. (but probably expensive)
Chinese companys normally have Chinese chipsets in their mobiles because they can get the chipsets cheaper.
The Helio x30 seems like a decent Chinese chipset to me.

Miles Wolf

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Re: Snail Mobile i7
« Reply #28 on: July 15, 2017, 01:03:43 pm »
Oh look, it's another phone-console wich because of its stupid big size won't be able to be used as a phone!

And the machine isn't still available and its design already looks old, like from 2000.

I want a new version of Much G2, damn it!




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« Reply #29 on: July 15, 2017, 10:53:18 pm »
Oh look, it's another phone-console wich because of its stupid big size won't be able to be used as a phone!

And the machine isn't still available and its design already looks old, like from 2000.

I want a new version of Much G2, damn it!

The only thing I'm concerned about is the protruding analog sticks.



Really is unfortunate that a slider gaming phone hasn't been made since the Xperia Play.

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Re: Snail Mobile i7
« Reply #30 on: July 16, 2017, 02:01:40 pm »
Really is unfortunate that a slider gaming phone hasn't been made since the Xperia Play.

The slider design has two main problems:

- Overheats easier than a non-sliding machine. The PSVita was going to have a sliding desing and this reason made Sony change it.

- Flex cable problems. Something very very common in the PSP Go and the Xperia Play.

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« Reply #31 on: July 16, 2017, 05:36:32 pm »
Really is unfortunate that a slider gaming phone hasn't been made since the Xperia Play.

The slider design has two main problems:

- Overheats easier than a non-sliding machine. The PSVita was going to have a sliding desing and this reason made Sony change it.

- Flex cable problems. Something very very common in the PSP Go and the Xperia Play.

Very true. I have an Xperia Play now that is having a flex cable issue. It would be my second time repairing it. However, a minor issue when it comes to the greatness of the design. I still think the Xperia Play was the step child of Sony, and was rushed out when the merger with Ericsson was coming to a close.

As for overheating on the Xplay, it's my first time hearing about it.

As for the Snail i7, I think the design is nice, and won't be any bigger than an iPhone 6 with an Otterbox on it, although admittedly, that's still some heft.

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Re: Snail Mobile i7
« Reply #32 on: July 16, 2017, 05:44:28 pm »
Had there been an Xplay 2 with a dual core and double the ram I'd probably still be rocking it.

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« Reply #33 on: July 16, 2017, 05:50:22 pm »
Heck yeah, just last year I was still rocking the original Xplay. The slider design was best for turning the device into a phone or gaming device on the fly. That design also allows for better button placement, such as Start and Select, heck, maybe even a Share button. They could even use the extra space to add a logo of sorts to the middle, or L3 and R3.

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Re: Snail Mobile i7
« Reply #34 on: July 16, 2017, 08:09:17 pm »
I wonder, if Sony, or another company did make a successor to the Xperia Play, with slide-out controls, good specs, and actual AAA titles (probably only Sony could do this). If it would fare better than the past handhelds or other sets of Sony phones.

How would it compare?

What would be the benchmark for success?

How could Sony convince game developers that the platform could be viable for their AAA games?

Anyway, this type of stuff has been talked about on here before.

I hope that the new Snail i7 actually fixes the stupid joystick driver problem that plagues all of their devices.




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Re: Snail Mobile i7
« Reply #35 on: July 16, 2017, 11:46:22 pm »
I wonder, if Sony, or another company did make a successor to the Xperia Play, with slide-out controls, good specs, and actual AAA titles (probably only Sony could do this). If it would fare better than the past handhelds or other sets of Sony phones.

How would it compare?

What would be the benchmark for success?

How could Sony convince game developers that the platform could be viable for their AAA games?

Anyway, this type of stuff has been talked about on here before.

I hope that the new Snail i7 actually fixes the stupid joystick driver problem that plagues all of their devices.




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Yeah, among other software hiccups that plaque the older devices, like the refresh rate. As for Sony making a new Xplay, well, I doubt that honestly. Even with the greatest sales pitch, at best, Sony is only interested in the smartphone gaming market, which is touch screen only, so no need for dedicated hardware. I thought maybe ForwardWorks from Sony would bring some change, but they are probably just a middleman for Sony to release their franchises to mobile.

Hate to say it, but in the phone/gaming hybrid market, Snail is all we have. Closest runner up is Motorola with the MotoMod gamepad.

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Re: Snail Mobile i7
« Reply #36 on: July 17, 2017, 04:22:06 am »
I wonder, if Sony, or another company did make a successor to the Xperia Play, with slide-out controls, good specs, and actual AAA titles (probably only Sony could do this). If it would fare better than the past handhelds or other sets of Sony phones.

How would it compare?

What would be the benchmark for success?

How could Sony convince game developers that the platform could be viable for their AAA games?

Anyway, this type of stuff has been talked about on here before.

I hope that the new Snail i7 actually fixes the stupid joystick driver problem that plagues all of their devices.




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Yeah, among other software hiccups that plaque the older devices, like the refresh rate. As for Sony making a new Xplay, well, I doubt that honestly. Even with the greatest sales pitch, at best, Sony is only interested in the smartphone gaming market, which is touch screen only, so no need for dedicated hardware. I thought maybe ForwardWorks from Sony would bring some change, but they are probably just a middleman for Sony to release their franchises to mobile.

Hate to say it, but in the phone/gaming hybrid market, Snail is all we have. Closest runner up is Motorola with the MotoMod gamepad.


Agree with you there. Although, if Sony does come out with another handheld console, I think the smartest thing to do would be to make it a smartphone.

I doubt they will though, considering the hoops they would have to run through to get exclusive software in the thing, and the side loading that android devices allow would probably doom it from third party AAA development.

A dude can dream though.

Anyways, good luck to snail. I like the design and build quality of most of ireadygo's stuff. They just need to improve at putting in those obvious fixes that get more irritating with each successive product they produce, because they all tend to have the same problems.


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Re: Snail Mobile i7
« Reply #37 on: July 17, 2017, 05:13:30 am »
Any word on release date?

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Re: Snail Mobile i7
« Reply #38 on: July 17, 2017, 02:48:43 pm »
Original article says July 30th for more info / release, but I wouldn't hold my breath on that one if the W3D was anything to go by. That took years to actually materialize.

Interestingly, I found this
"Helio X20 (MT6797) is a 64-bit deca-core ARM LTE system on a chip designed by MediaTek and introduced in early 2016. This SoC incorporates 3 independent clusters of cores (called "Tri-Cluster" by MediaTek) operating at varying degrees of performance designed for certain workloads (operating at 1.4 GHz, 1.85 GHz, and 2.3 GHz) and supports up to 6 GiB of dual-channel LPDDR3-1866 memory. This SoC also incorporates a Mali-T800 MP4 IGP operating at 780 MHz. The chip has a modem supporting LTE User Equipment (UE) category 6."

Bold is my own emphasis - since it tops out at 6GB, I wonder if there's a better chip along with the 8GB/128GB version?
Source: https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/mediatek/helio/mt6797

DroidX2

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Re: Snail Mobile i7
« Reply #39 on: July 17, 2017, 07:04:50 pm »
Original article says July 30th for more info / release, but I wouldn't hold my breath on that one if the W3D was anything to go by. That took years to actually materialize.

Interestingly, I found this
"Helio X20 (MT6797) is a 64-bit deca-core ARM LTE system on a chip designed by MediaTek and introduced in early 2016. This SoC incorporates 3 independent clusters of cores (called "Tri-Cluster" by MediaTek) operating at varying degrees of performance designed for certain workloads (operating at 1.4 GHz, 1.85 GHz, and 2.3 GHz) and supports up to 6 GiB of dual-channel LPDDR3-1866 memory. This SoC also incorporates a Mali-T800 MP4 IGP operating at 780 MHz. The chip has a modem supporting LTE User Equipment (UE) category 6."

Bold is my own emphasis - since it tops out at 6GB, I wonder if there's a better chip along with the 8GB/128GB version?
Source: https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/mediatek/helio/mt6797


Hmmm, that is interesting indeed? If the wiki info is correct, that does raise the question. Good find!



Anyways, good luck to snail. I like the design and build quality of most of ireadygo's stuff. They just need to improve at putting in those obvious fixes that get more irritating with each successive product they produce, because they all tend to have the same problems.


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That statement clearly sums up a Snail release.
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