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Asus ROG Gaming Phone - 2 buttons are better than none?
« on: June 04, 2018, 02:41:22 pm »
https://liliputing.com/2018/06/the-rog-phone-is-the-first-gaming-smartphone-from-asus.html

Asus has a gaming phone - Optional "Active Cooling" Passive Vapor Cooling.
The big news here is it has two shoulder buttons on the top- that could be cool- maybe for RPG emulation for older systems it'd be perfect if it could be mapped to A/B.

Lots of docks, peripherals, big Snapdragon 845 running at almost 3GHz. Will be stupid expensive, I'm sure.

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Re: Asus ROG Gaming Phone - 2 buttons are better than none?
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2018, 02:57:25 pm »
Fail

Having shoulder buttons/triggers isn't gonna cut it for hardcore gamers like me!!

I want 100% physical controls via controller attachment!!!

Why can't these Asian companies get it right?

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Re: Asus ROG Gaming Phone - 2 buttons are better than none?
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2018, 03:33:10 pm »
I'd rather have some physical buttons than none- I'm gonna look at it as a step in the right direction. Hopefully the ROG Cell 2 or whatever the name will be will sport a D-pad and ABXY as well as those shoulder buttons ;) But we can only vote with our wallets.

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Re: Asus ROG Gaming Phone - 2 buttons are better than none?
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2018, 03:47:04 pm »
Oh boy
SO CLOSE, but yet so far. I've been waiting to see if anyone would ever make a full gaming clamshell enclosure and this is almost it. Just.... No gamer wants a second screen. And only 2 shoulder buttons? For their sake, Asus better design one that has a full Gamepad plus keyboard instead of a second screen. The phone itself having ultra sonic sensor-based shoulder buttons is cool though.
The fact that this thing is full of features and has so many gaming oriented accessories built for it, especially the clamshell dock that essentially turns to phone into a handheld gaming console/UMPC(?) (even though the dual screen concept is dumb), makes it super interesting. It's not just yet another suped up regular phone with a "gamers" label aesthetic and label slapped on nor is it an underpowered and ergonomically nightmarish thingamajig (iReadyGo/Snail).
Now if only someone else can take that clamshell dock idea and DO IT RIGHT.
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Re: Asus ROG Gaming Phone - 2 buttons are better than none?
« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2018, 03:48:43 pm »
Fail

Having shoulder buttons/triggers isn't gonna cut it for hardcore gamers like me!!

I want 100% physical controls via controller attachment!!!

Why can't these Asian companies get it right?

:(

You could always get the Gamevice that they're gonna have made for this thing, but I would prefer if they replaced the clamshell dock's second screen with keyboard and full Gamepad.

Re: Asus ROG Gaming Phone - 2 buttons are better than none?
« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2018, 11:42:48 pm »
Man I am actually hyped for the ROG Phone. This thing is hella versatile.   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyWX6CjJCIU
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Re: Asus ROG Gaming Phone - 2 buttons are better than none?
« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2018, 12:35:03 am »
^ lol
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Re: Asus ROG Gaming Phone - 2 buttons are better than none?
« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2018, 07:04:51 am »
I think with the amount of accessories it has, including the game vice controller, and the dual screen game pad, and multi-port dock; makes this a solid buy.

https://www.theverge.com/2018/6/4/17424144/asus-rog-phone-gaming-android-specs-modular-computex-2018

https://www.engadget.com/2018/06/04/asus-rog-gaming-phone-hands-on/

https://www.cnet.com/products/asus-rog-phone-preview/
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Re: Asus ROG Gaming Phone - 2 buttons are better than none?
« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2018, 09:05:09 am »
Overall, expensive though.
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Re: Asus ROG Gaming Phone - 2 buttons are better than none?
« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2018, 02:26:22 pm »
I agree Sony on this being expensive. I honestly can't see this coming in under $600-$1200, and I'm leaning more towards $800-$1000.
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Re: Asus ROG Gaming Phone - 2 buttons are better than none?
« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2018, 03:30:33 pm »
At that price I just prefer getting a GPd WIn 2 for gaming and not something android limited, even if it's not a phone....
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Re: Asus ROG Gaming Phone - 2 buttons are better than none?
« Reply #11 on: June 08, 2018, 08:07:50 pm »
At that price I just prefer getting a GPd WIn 2 for gaming and not something android limited, even if it's not a phone....

I know you love your Win2, and it is cool.  For $700 though, I'd rather have a good $900 gaming phone.  The idea of a gaming phone is that, for many of us, we are already taking our phones with us.  Having to carry another device isn't the most ideal.  I can use Geforce Now on my Mac to play all my Steam games, and soon enough it will be on my phone.   
 I also have LiquidSky and Playstation Now.  Give me a good gaming phone with an attached controller, I see no need for a Windows machine in my pocket also.  While having the Win2 will let me finally find some time for my older Windows games, I'm not really playing the older games when I am in front of my computer and don't miss them when I am away.  It is why I sold my GPD-Win originally.

I love my Nintendo Switch (hell, wife and youngest daughter both have one also), but carrying it out of the house isn't convenient.  I have to pack it in the case, bring the charger, power bank, etc.  Once my phone can replace the Switch for gaming, I'll forgo the Switch also.

Besides, I also have a Surface Book 2 with a GTX1060, so I can play my modern games when I am visiting the in-laws or away for the weekend.  The GPD-Win2 isn't for everyone.  I can't see one in my life, but I can see a gaming phone.

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Re: Asus ROG Gaming Phone - 2 buttons are better than none?
« Reply #12 on: June 08, 2018, 08:27:53 pm »
yeah, it depends on the use. I never use streaming, so I prefer a pocketable solution that let me play whenever I go no matter If I have wifi or not. Have in mind that not all countries have wifi spots for good streaming.
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Re: Asus ROG Gaming Phone - 2 buttons are better than none?
« Reply #13 on: June 09, 2018, 12:27:55 am »
yeah, it depends on the use. I never use streaming, so I prefer a pocketable solution that let me play whenever I go no matter If I have wifi or not. Have in mind that not all countries have wifi spots for good streaming.

Got ya!  I tend to think that the USA is way behind other countries in 4G and broadband.

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Re: Asus ROG Gaming Phone - 2 buttons are better than none?
« Reply #14 on: June 09, 2018, 05:53:48 am »
Eh, I'm with skelton, I would prefer having a dedicated device that natively runs my library of PC games. I do game on my phone, but just Android games and some light retro emulation. But for my ""real"" games, I prefer my Win 2.

Until Internet access, whether via mobile networks or something else gets the point where you can be connected with high speeds ANYWHERE in the world no matter how desolate and no matter how thick your walls are, have ZERO interruptions/disconnects and latency, have NO DATA CAPS and zero throttling, all while not costing so much, I won't take game streaming seriously.

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Re: Asus ROG Gaming Phone - 2 buttons are better than none?
« Reply #16 on: June 26, 2018, 11:48:10 am »
Cheap lol
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Re: Asus ROG Gaming Phone - 2 buttons are better than none?
« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2018, 03:51:33 pm »
Eh, I'm with skelton, I would prefer having a dedicated device that natively runs my library of PC games. I do game on my phone, but just Android games and some light retro emulation. But for my ""real"" games, I prefer my Win 2.

Until Internet access, whether via mobile networks or something else gets the point where you can be connected with high speeds ANYWHERE in the world no matter how desolate and no matter how thick your walls are, have ZERO interruptions/disconnects and latency, have NO DATA CAPS and zero throttling, all while not costing so much, I won't take game streaming seriously.

I co-sign this post. Stream gaming is great in theory and on paper, but when I want to game, I don't want to run around looking for wifi or a good reception spot like a smoker looking for a place to smoke.

Person asks - "Whatcha doing in the freezer Timmy?
Timmy - It's got good WiFi and I wanna play a single player game on my phone!"
 ??? ??? ;D LOL!

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Re: Asus ROG Gaming Phone - 2 buttons are better than none?
« Reply #18 on: August 03, 2018, 03:47:54 am »
I co-sign this post. Stream gaming is great in theory and on paper, but when I want to game, I don't want to run around looking for wifi or a good reception spot like a smoker looking for a place to smoke.

Person asks - "Whatcha doing in the freezer Timmy?
Timmy - It's got good WiFi and I wanna play a single player game on my phone!"
 ??? ??? ;D LOL!

All I ever hear is about how behind other countries the USA is in comparison.  I really just figure that the rest of the world is buzzing alone with awesome 4G speeds.  I get anywhere between 50mb-130mb download speeds on T-mobile, and rarely come close to the 50GB limit before possible throttle, even when streaming my games.  I'm very rarely where there isn't a connection or good Wifi signal.  Maybe that's why I have game streaming services where you guys want something like the Win2.

This isn't a one-size-fits-all scenario.  Again, I really don't want to play older games.  Once GPD makes a device with 1080p and clickable sticks that can handle Shadow of War, Farcry 5, FF XV and Destiny 2, I'll be all over it -- I'd even pay $1500 for it.  Until then, I'm content with my streaming and my Switch.  Now that Microsoft is talking about the future of Xbox being streaming also, I am hoping it comes to my other devices anyway.

By the way, if you haven't tried the latest Geforce Now, try to get on the Beta.  It is lightyears ahead of LiquidSky and I've not really been able to notice any lag.  I've used it on the Cube Mix Plus tethered to my phone's hotspot, and at the house.  It is like having a GTX1080 doing 1080P at 60FPS on the Cube Mix Plus.  May be something to try on your GPD-Win 2 to get the newest games playing.  Here is a thread on reddit talking about it: https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/7xnnzb/geforce_now_is_pretty_awesome/

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Re: Asus ROG Gaming Phone - 2 buttons are better than none?
« Reply #19 on: August 03, 2018, 02:54:44 pm »
@LD

Awesome! You have a Cube Mix Plus :)
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Also, I haven't click on that Reddit link you posted, but your example of "It is like having a GTX1080 doing 1080P at 60FPS on the Cube Mix Plus" is absolutely unbelievable!!
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