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Title: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: DroidX2 on March 01, 2017, 02:46:24 pm
Hi all, this seems promising, although I haven't heard much about either. With April Fools being so far away, I doubt it's a joke, so it's all official. Seems that there is a controller being made on INDIEGOGO for the MOTO Z, but then LENOVO went ahead and made a controller of their own for the MOTO Z.

The guys behind the INDIEGOGO seems official, and their isn't much information regarding the LENOVO controller.

This would be awesome if they released, since the controller for both is more of a leave-on case, rather than an attachment like MOGA, basically giving us a gaming phone.

I have a link to the INDIEGOGO page posted below. It speaks of the INDIEGOGO project, and the LENOVO GAMEPAD CASE.

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/a-gamepad-mod-for-moto-z-phones-android-videogames#/

Anyone have any thoughts, or further information regarding these?

***Mods, if the link is against the forum rules, please let me know, or remove the link posted in this thread. Thanks***
Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Lenovo Vs. Indiegogo
Post by: SONY on March 01, 2017, 07:39:28 pm
Lol, that looks shit, especially the 'trigger' buttons on the back.
I'd rather get the the one that Motorola has shown off (still in prototype stages and as you mentioned, made by Lenovo exclusively for Motorola Z phones).

(https://s.aolcdn.com/dims5/amp:7231746db6706c9b4a3cb4e78821351bbfa71926/t:980,653/q:80/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fs.blogcdn.com%2Fslideshows%2Fimages%2Fslides%2F445%2F890%2F0%2FS4458900%2Fslug%2Fl%2Fmg-0350-1.jpg)

You see, the one (shown in the image above) will at least snap into the sides just like the Nintendo Switch JoyCon (controllers), which makes it look good, unlike the ugly IGG one they're making.

Also, what's wrong with you posting a link, would never be against forum rules to post IGG links.
Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Lenovo Vs. Indiegogo
Post by: DroidX2 on March 05, 2017, 02:13:53 am
Yeah, I do have to agree, while I have much respect for the IGG controller. Between the two, I rather the Motorola one, which kinda resembles the more traditional portable gaming handheld when connected.

I wish IGG the best. The more of these types of devices the better. It would be good if other companies would get on board and make these types of add-ons for their phones, in which the attachment can stay on the phone, and the phone still be used normally if wanted.
Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Lenovo Vs. Indiegogo
Post by: silvacrest on March 06, 2017, 04:17:29 pm
I also saw a moto mod gamepad in the shape of a nintendo DS clam-shell design

here it is on IGG https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/game-z-gamepad-for-moto-z#/

I dont want to get to excited but we have at least 2 prototypes and one confirmed by lenovo, all seem to add extra battery too which is nice
Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Lenovo Vs. Indiegogo
Post by: Faust on March 06, 2017, 06:09:05 pm
I really prefer the Indiegogo Foldable gamepad, like my beloved xperia play.
Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Lenovo Vs. Indiegogo
Post by: DroidX2 on March 06, 2017, 10:19:31 pm
I'm loving the love IGG is giving the MOTO Z with these gamepad mods. Everyone has their own style. Personally, I'm looking for something like the Bladepad, or Razer casings, basically slide out like Xperia play. I think a thicker device is easier to carry than a longer one, since I currently use the W3D as a daily driver, and you need big pockets.

The Xperia Play was thick, but it would get lost in my pocket sometimes. Probably due to the screen size, but I think 5 or even 5.5 inches, with Xperia play thickness wouldn't be bad, since most people have cases, like otterbox, on their phones, it's probably a better sacrifice to make, and the expectation of anyone considering a gaming controller add-on to their device would expect a little extra size.

What do you all think is better, slide, or side?

Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Lenovo Vs. Indiegogo
Post by: DroidX2 on March 20, 2017, 02:58:31 pm
You guys probably already know about this, but I haven't seen a post about it, so I figured I'd post this as well. Seems the Moto Play is getting more love from Indiegogo. It's good for us W3D users, that want their phone and smartphone as one. Here's another mod, which is similar to another one on Indiegogo, but this one seems a lot less bulky.

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/cliki-play-the-ultimate-gaming-moto-mod#/backers

What are your thoughts?
Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Lenovo Vs. Indiegogo
Post by: DroidX2 on June 13, 2017, 12:29:55 am
Hey all! Finally got some updates on this Moto Mod Game Controller. Seems it may release along side the Moto Z-PLAY 2. Controller looks slick, and it has all the buttons needed for full-fledged gaming. Take a look, post your thoughts!

https://www.motorola.com/us/products/moto-mods/moto-gamepad-console

http://www.droid-life.com/2017/06/01/motorola-unveils-handful-new-moto-mods-new-jbl-speaker-turbopower-mod-gamepad/
Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Lenovo Vs. Indiegogo
Post by: DroidX2 on June 17, 2017, 09:43:54 pm
Hmmm, I'm surprised no ones responded. I guess the W3D left a sour taste. In any case, I've got some specs, which it seems the Gamepad has full-featured buttons. We talking DPAD, 4 FACE BUTTONS, L1, L2, L3, R1, R2, R3, START, SELECT.

This makes it perfect for just about any game you wanna play. Remote play features will benefit extremely from this, and considering it can be used on an updated and supported device. My only question is how well will the mod attach to the controller. It seems to just sit atop it. I wouldn't want to depend on just a magnet, but something that holds it in place, similar to the Logitech Powershell. It allows for full phone usage, so I assume it can be left on the phone while using it for normal phone tasks.

It's up on Motorola's site, no release date as of yet, but I'll keep an eye out.

I guess if this pans out, I'll have a few gaming phones for sale, lol!

https://www.motorola.com/us/products/moto-mods/moto-gamepad-console
Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: dilemina on June 18, 2017, 12:23:08 am
Hmmm, I'm surprised no ones responded. I guess the W3D left a sour taste. In any case, I've got some specs, which it seems the Gamepad has full-featured buttons. We talking DPAD, 4 FACE BUTTONS, L1, L2, L3, R1, R2, R3, START, SELECT.

This makes it perfect for just about any game you wanna play. Remote play features will benefit extremely from this, and considering it can be used on an updated and supported device. My only question is how well will the mod attach to the controller. It seems to just sit atop it. I wouldn't want to depend on just a magnet, but something that holds it in place, similar to the Logitech Powershell. It allows for full phone usage, so I assume it can be left on the phone while using it for normal phone tasks.

It's up on Motorola's site, no release date as of yet, but I'll keep an eye out.

I guess if this pans out, I'll have a few gaming phones for sale, lol!

https://www.motorola.com/us/products/moto-mods/moto-gamepad-console


Cool to see that it may not just be a mock up.
Looking forward to this expensive thing.


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Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: DroidX2 on June 18, 2017, 02:21:40 pm
Hmmm, I'm surprised no ones responded. I guess the W3D left a sour taste. In any case, I've got some specs, which it seems the Gamepad has full-featured buttons. We talking DPAD, 4 FACE BUTTONS, L1, L2, L3, R1, R2, R3, START, SELECT.

This makes it perfect for just about any game you wanna play. Remote play features will benefit extremely from this, and considering it can be used on an updated and supported device. My only question is how well will the mod attach to the controller. It seems to just sit atop it. I wouldn't want to depend on just a magnet, but something that holds it in place, similar to the Logitech Powershell. It allows for full phone usage, so I assume it can be left on the phone while using it for normal phone tasks.

It's up on Motorola's site, no release date as of yet, but I'll keep an eye out.

I guess if this pans out, I'll have a few gaming phones for sale, lol!

https://www.motorola.com/us/products/moto-mods/moto-gamepad-console


Cool to see that it may not just be a mock up.
Looking forward to this expensive thing.


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Yeah, this one is from Motorola themselves, not Indiegogo. Although I can't help but think that Indiegogo designs helped inspire it. Either way, it's official, and I'm liking it. It's probably the closest we will ever see to a gaming phone after the track record of all-in-one devices. Maybe if it takes off, someone will take a crack at it, but until then, I can work with this, since I'm using something similar at the moment, and it works nicely.

This corresponds to an idea I ranted about saying that a company should make a decent phone first, then a gaming phone case for that phone that doesn't need to be removed to use the phone normally. This is like, a manifestation of that idea, so I'm happy to see this.

It eliminates the issues surrounding past attempts like the Xperia Play and Snail devices by being an up to date device. The Android gaming market is more mature now. Mobile internet is faster, so streaming PC games to your phone for playing is a viable option now, along with online play for games that allow it, like FPS games. Granted, many of these things were already being done, but only by devices with separate controllers, and not a supposed all in one device.

It honestly has the potential to become the next new thing in portable gaming. That's just using normal Android gaming. Consider the specs, and probably Dolphin emulation will be possible. Tincore button mapper can be used for games without native controls.

As for price, it's reported to release at $79.99, which i think is fair since the controller features full console controller buttons. I'm just thinking if Onlive was still around. It also has a backup battery. A normal console controller is about 60 bucks nowadays, so I think the price is fair.

As for release date, its stated near the end of summer, although I'm thinking it may coincide with the release of the Moto Play Z2 being released.
Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: dilemina on June 25, 2017, 02:02:14 am
Any of the moto Z devices still have better specs than the snail and jxd phones.

If it's cost effective, I might buy the cheapest moto z and this controller rather than rolling up to the Z2 when it comes out.

Guess we'll see if the price drops on the Moto Z play or not.

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Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: DroidX2 on June 25, 2017, 06:30:45 am
Hmmm, good idea! The Moto Z should drop further in price with the release of the Moto Z2. I just hope they aren't impossible to root and mod. I'll need Tincore, lol!
Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: Phawx on June 26, 2017, 04:58:56 pm
FWIW, I have every intention to buy the Z2 and the moto game pad mod.  I'll def be putting up some youtube vids of it in action.

Z2 announcement is supposed to be this week.
Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: DroidX2 on June 27, 2017, 03:13:41 pm
Same here! I'll place a review here with pics, assuming I get it fast enough. The size of the device, with the controller attached shouldn't be any bigger than the W3D, except for the analog sticks that protrude out.

All speculation until we see the physical device. I'll see if I can find some dimensions, or even the FCC testing, if available.

Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: robman2122 on July 15, 2017, 12:55:21 am
Just a quick word of caution to anyone considering the Moto Z2 Play. Even though the processor is a 64 bit processor, Motorola has decided to install a 32 bit version of Android. This may not affect you, but one thing that it does affect is the dolphin emulator. The latest build/version will not install whatsoever. I did not realize this until after purchasing the phone, only to be disappointed. Everything else seems fairly solid so far though. Can't wait for the gamepad mod to come out already.

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Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: SONY on July 15, 2017, 07:45:59 am
Deal breaker?
Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: DroidX2 on July 17, 2017, 06:54:46 pm
Ah crap, really! Would it be possible to install a 64bit Rom once the device is rooted, or boot loader unlocked? Not exactly a deal breaker, but with IOS going full on 64bit, I expected Android to already be on board.

By the way, I found some new videos of the Gamepad Mod, playing Implosion, which is a game I have struggled with to no avail on the Snail devices due to the Joystick driver issue. The part with Implosion is near the end, @1:47

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cj-2RNlisuM

This video shows a clearer view at the actual device and gamepad mod attached to each other. A look of sorts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpZnuifMijU
Title: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: dilemina on July 18, 2017, 03:26:28 am
Oh you want videos?

Don't know the language on this one.
https://youtu.be/E3tH76l_hTE (https://youtu.be/E3tH76l_hTE)

And this one is in English. An actual Lenovo executive is talking about the gamepad mod and mentions it has a battery and headphone jack.

https://youtu.be/QLHFjll3Rpo (https://youtu.be/QLHFjll3Rpo)




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Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: robman2122 on July 18, 2017, 04:18:03 am
Deal breaker?
Not necessarily a Deal breaker for me as I needed a new phone anyways and I get the Moto mod gamepad when it's released, but it would have been a nice tid bit of information to know ahead of time, especially since the tech specs say it's a 64 bit processor but mention nothing about the android build.

I certainly hope someone comes out with a 64 bit rom that works for this phone as I'm sure it could benefit more than just the dolphin emulator.

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Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: DroidX2 on July 18, 2017, 05:19:01 am
Deal breaker?
Not necessarily a Deal breaker for me as I needed a new phone anyways and I get the Moto mod gamepad when it's released, but it would have been a nice tid bit of information to know ahead of time, especially since the tech specs say it's a 64 bit processor but mention nothing about the android build.

I certainly hope someone comes out with a 64 bit rom that works for this phone as I'm sure it could benefit more than just the dolphin emulator.

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Did you happen to see if any of the Mod compatible devices have a 64bit ROM Installed?
Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: SONY on July 18, 2017, 07:49:15 am
Deal breaker?
Not necessarily a Deal breaker for me as I needed a new phone anyways and I get the Moto mod gamepad when it's released, but it would have been a nice tid bit of information to know ahead of time, especially since the tech specs say it's a 64 bit processor but mention nothing about the android build.

I certainly hope someone comes out with a 64 bit rom that works for this phone as I'm sure it could benefit more than just the dolphin emulator.

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Fair enough. It's an awesome phone anyway.
Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: robman2122 on July 18, 2017, 12:16:17 pm
Did you happen to see if any of the Mod compatible devices have a 64bit ROM Installed?

No I didn't. If any of them do, I'd venture to say the straight Moto Z or the upcoming Moto Z2 (not the play) may have a 64 bit OS, but for compatibility sake, they may have stuck with 32. From a design standpoint, that would make the most sense as they have developed an entire ecosystem that's compatible with each other, so why have to design the interface twice?

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Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: DroidX2 on July 26, 2017, 01:48:28 am
Hi all! New video concerning the Moto Gamepad Mod!

https://www.androidcentral.com/moto-gamepad-mod-hands

The size reminds me of the W3D, so it should feel right at home!

While they still haven't announced an official release date, it's still touted for this summer, which has a month and a half left. However, maybe they are taking the time to make their own button mapper for games without gamepad support.
Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: Phawx on July 26, 2017, 05:15:17 pm
Early hand's on to the gamepad looks pretty interesting.  Would prefer to keep it docked all the time, might have to figure out a better way to carry it around.
Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: DroidX2 on July 26, 2017, 06:40:10 pm
Early hand's on to the gamepad looks pretty interesting.  Would prefer to keep it docked all the time, might have to figure out a better way to carry it around.

I agree, especially since it doesn't block any of the phone features. I was a bit worried about the magnet connection. I would rather something more like the Logitech powershell, but since they made the device slimmer, the fit should be better.

The analogs do seem to protrude a bit more than I was comfortable with. Not a deal breaker by any means though. I just wish they would give an official release date for it.
Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: Phawx on July 26, 2017, 08:31:13 pm
Early hand's on to the gamepad looks pretty interesting.  Would prefer to keep it docked all the time, might have to figure out a better way to carry it around.

I agree, especially since it doesn't block any of the phone features. I was a bit worried about the magnet connection. I would rather something more like the Logitech powershell, but since they made the device slimmer, the fit should be better.

The analogs do seem to protrude a bit more than I was comfortable with. Not a deal breaker by any means though. I just wish they would give an official release date for it.

I'm thinking of creating some type of wristband to carry the gamepad.  I'm not one for carrying backpacks. 

Failing that, creating some type of waist pouch built to hold the sucker complete
Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: R2112 on July 27, 2017, 08:31:30 pm
Early hand's on to the gamepad looks pretty interesting.  Would prefer to keep it docked all the time, might have to figure out a better way to carry it around.

I agree, especially since it doesn't block any of the phone features. I was a bit worried about the magnet connection. I would rather something more like the Logitech powershell, but since they made the device slimmer, the fit should be better.

The analogs do seem to protrude a bit more than I was comfortable with. Not a deal breaker by any means though. I just wish they would give an official release date for it.

I'm thinking of creating some type of wristband to carry the gamepad.  I'm not one for carrying backpacks. 

Failing that, creating some type of waist pouch built to hold the sucker complete

Depending on how well it's held in there, I may just permanently leave the phone in there, because that Snapdragon 835'd Z2 Force looks real nice.
Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: robman2122 on July 27, 2017, 09:51:39 pm
Looks like Verizon has it listed for preorder now with a release date of 8/25

https://www.verizonwireless.com/accessories/motorola-moto-gamepad-moto-mod/
Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: Phawx on July 27, 2017, 10:20:33 pm
Looks like Verizon has it listed for preorder now with a release date of 8/25

https://www.verizonwireless.com/accessories/motorola-moto-gamepad-moto-mod/

Apparently it's *exclusive* to Verizon.

meaning you can only buy it *from* Verizon.  It'll work on any though.

haha.
Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: robman2122 on July 27, 2017, 10:29:03 pm
Looks like Verizon has it listed for preorder now with a release date of 8/25

https://www.verizonwireless.com/accessories/motorola-moto-gamepad-moto-mod/

Apparently it's *exclusive* to Verizon.

meaning you can only buy it *from* Verizon.  It'll work on any though.

haha.
Makes sense since you can only buy the phones for it from Verizon, unless you buy them at full price unlocked once available from Motorola of course. You'd think manufacturers would have learned their lesson after the iPhone, but I guess not.

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Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: hellomoto on July 28, 2017, 01:19:00 am
every carrier has z2 force this year.
Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: DroidX2 on July 28, 2017, 02:11:42 am
Looks like Verizon has it listed for preorder now with a release date of 8/25

https://www.verizonwireless.com/accessories/motorola-moto-gamepad-moto-mod/

Well that's good! Finally have a date. One month from now. That works since the device isn't shipping till the 8/10
Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: DroidX2 on July 28, 2017, 03:32:49 pm
every carrier has z2 force this year.

I'm sure you've been asked before, but, do you work for Motorola by any chance? If you do, I have but one question regarding how to redeem the projector for ordering the MotoZ2 Force. I understand that these forums are public use and can be utilized by anyone, even employees of corporations we make speak of. Therefore I promise not to bombard with random, numerous, or slanderous questions.

You may answer by PM if you would like to remain anonymous.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: LordDavon on July 29, 2017, 02:01:04 am
Okay, so I have an S7 Edge that I use as my second phone (T-mobile digits).  I'm thinking about selling it and getting a Moto Z2 Play.  Should this be the one to look at under $500?  I'm not that knowledged on Lenovo phones.
Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: DroidX2 on July 29, 2017, 03:05:57 pm
Okay, so I have an S7 Edge that I use as my second phone (T-mobile digits).  I'm thinking about selling it and getting a Moto Z2 Play.  Should this be the one to look at under $500?  I'm not that knowledged on Lenovo phones.

Lenovo bought Motorola, but still uses the Motorola name and production houses. Moto released 2 devices, the Moto Z2 Play, and the Moto Z2 Force. The Z2Play is a sub $500, mid-range device. The Moto Z2Force has higher specs and sort of competes with flagship devices, such as Samsung Galaxy and LG G6. While not as powerful or well designed by most opinions, the biggest draw to the Moto Z series is the Moto Mods, in which, design was sacrificed for compatibility. I'm pretty sure it would suck worse if the design was changed and the new device didn't fit with the Moto mods.

I think the biggest difference between the 2 devices is the price. I myself pre-ordered the MotoZ2Force, but mostly due to the deal with it that included a free Insta-Projector Moto Mod, originally priced at $299, and the fact that Verizon is offering to credit 396.00 off the price of the phone if financed, making monthly payments only $15 instead of $30.

The Moto Z2Play is more conveniently priced and the deals for it make it all the more cheaper. It has the same slimmer design as the Z2Force which allows for a better fit with Moto Mods. It is mid-range, so the specs are a little lower than the Z2Force, but still a good device for the price, and the Moto Mods add value.

Here's some spec comparisons:

https://www.tomsguide.com/us/moto-z2-force-vs-moto-z2-play,news-25542.html

Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: LordDavon on July 29, 2017, 06:21:35 pm
Isnít there a first version that also works with the controller?  I thought there was one with an SD820.  Maybe not.  Like I said, Iím not that familiar with Lenovo phones.



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Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: DroidX2 on July 29, 2017, 07:02:32 pm
Isnít there a first version that also works with the controller?  I thought there was one with an SD820.  Maybe not.  Like I said, Iím not that familiar with Lenovo phones.



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Here is the spec comparison from the Motorola website showing the spec differences between Moto Z devices.

https://www.motorola.com/us/products/moto-z-family

The Moto Z2Force and Moto Z2Play were released this year. The others were released last year. The Moto Z Play isn't in the comparison, but it's above in the list of devices. You can check it's specs there and compare to the device of your choice.

The Moto Z devices that have DROID in the name are Verizon only.

Only the Moto Z line of phones are compatible with Moto Mods. Moto X, or any other variants can't use the mods.
Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: procyon on July 31, 2017, 01:25:23 am
I figured I'd just chime in here.  I just received my Moto Z2 Play and so far, I'm pretty happy with it.  Verizon was offering their version of the phone at $5/24 months, discounting the phone from $408 to $120.  At that price, I figured what the heck.  I laid down the $80 to pre-order the gamepad as well, which they say will ship 8/25.  I probably would have preferred the Z2 Force, but I didn't want to get saddled with paying for an unlimited data plan which would have effectively doubled my monthly bill.  So at $120, I'm really happy with this mid-tier phone, especially since it's a good spec-jump from my previous phone (the Sony Xperia z3v).  If any of you have any questions about the phone, I'll be happy to answer them.
Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: SONY on July 31, 2017, 03:17:43 am
Have you purchased any modular stuff for it yet?
Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: LordDavon on July 31, 2017, 06:23:09 am
I figured I'd just chime in here.  I just received my Moto Z2 Play and so far, I'm pretty happy with it.  Verizon was offering their version of the phone at $5/24 months, discounting the phone from $408 to $120.  At that price, I figured what the heck.  I laid down the $80 to pre-order the gamepad as well, which they say will ship 8/25.  I probably would have preferred the Z2 Force, but I didn't want to get saddled with paying for an unlimited data plan which would have effectively doubled my monthly bill.  So at $120, I'm really happy with this mid-tier phone, especially since it's a good spec-jump from my previous phone (the Sony Xperia z3v).  If any of you have any questions about the phone, I'll be happy to answer them.
Thatís a great deal.  I would have jumped at it also.  I should see what T-Mobile has for deals.  I have a digits virtual line that I could probably trade the S7 Edge on.  After financing my new iPad Pro 10.5 256GB though, wife might veto it.  Maybe I will see if I can pay a few hundred off on it this month before checking.


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Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: procyon on July 31, 2017, 03:07:34 pm
Have you purchased any modular stuff for it yet?

Other than pre-ordering the gamepad, no.  Despite being attracted to some of them (the sound boost, the projector) I don't really plan to.  I mean, I'd like to buy a backplate so the pins in the back aren't exposed.  I was actually really surprised that it didn't come with one.  It feels like the back of the phone is "naked" and I'm worried about accidentally damaging the pins.  So I'll probably buy a backplate for when I want to remove the gamepad.
Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: DroidX2 on August 02, 2017, 04:51:31 am
I pre-ordered the MOTO Z2FORCE from Verizon. The projector deal was too good to pass up. At a $299 value, plus Verizon also offered their own promotion, in which they would remove $396 off the purchase price of the phone if paid over the 24 month period at $15 a month.
https://www.verizonwireless.com/smartphones/moto-z2-force/

Honestly, it's just another version of a 2 year contract deal, since, if you try to pay the device off before hand, the $396 rebate is voided, i.e.: early termination fee.

But, it works out well since I'm buying a Verizon device, which can only be used on Verizon.

At any rate, T-Mobile is offering a BUY 1, GET ONE FREE, ALONG WITH THE Moto Projector
https://www.t-mobile.com/offers/moto-z2-force-edition

Sprint is offering LEASE 1 DEVICE, GET A SECOND LEASE FREE, along with the Moto Projector
https://www.sprint.com/shop/device/moto-z2-force-edition-preorder-64gb-super-black?skuId=112900225&duration=18L&contractType=lease&lineId=1808464760


AT&T however, I'm not sure what they are offering. Probably something to do with Direct TV. From what I can understand, it's Direct TV for $10 a month. Doesn't remotely compare to the other carrier deals IMO.
https://www.att.com/cellphones/motorola/z2-force-edition.html#sku=sku8410263

The Moto projector seems to be a Moto deal, not a carrier, but pre-ordering from any carrier would approve. Just have to submit the IMEI number of the device, along with other information. So you won't be able to submit your claim until you receive the device. It's also a while supplies last situation.
https://motorola.rewardpromo.com/#/home/offers
Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: SONY on August 02, 2017, 09:59:01 pm
Have you purchased any modular stuff for it yet?

Other than pre-ordering the gamepad, no.  Despite being attracted to some of them (the sound boost, the projector) I don't really plan to.  I mean, I'd like to buy a backplate so the pins in the back aren't exposed.  I was actually really surprised that it didn't come with one.  It feels like the back of the phone is "naked" and I'm worried about accidentally damaging the pins.  So I'll probably buy a backplate for when I want to remove the gamepad.

Okies, cool. I too am very puzzled by the fact that a backplate didn't with it in the box.
Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: LordDavon on August 03, 2017, 12:18:16 am
So I'm now reading that the gamepad is a Verizon exclusive.  Can anyone else find a place selling it?

Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: robman2122 on August 03, 2017, 05:42:14 am
Just finally got around to pre-ordering my gamepad mod. I'm excited to have a functional gaming solution on my phone again.

On a side note, for anyone considering the Z2 Play, they were (I think still are) running a promotion on that to get a free jbl speaker mod as well. Not as cool as the projector for the force, but something. I think it runs thru the 9th of this month. Mine just shipped today.

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Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: procyon on August 03, 2017, 03:49:57 pm
So reviews are coming in on both the Z2 Play and Z2 Force. While the Force is obviously the higher spec phone, it looks like the Play is winning the quality competition. The Force's screen may not shatter, but it sure does scratch. A screen protector is a must. The Play also has more battery life.

I'll just leave this here: https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/8/3/16086474/motorola-moto-z2-force-review-lenovo-price
Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: Phawx on August 04, 2017, 09:06:30 pm
So reviews are coming in on both the Z2 Play and Z2 Force. While the Force is obviously the higher spec phone, it looks like the Play is winning the quality competition. The Force's screen may not shatter, but it sure does scratch. A screen protector is a must. The Play also has more battery life.

I'll just leave this here: https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/8/3/16086474/motorola-moto-z2-force-review-lenovo-price

Can't find it now but I heard the Z2 Play isn't using 64-bit build of Android and thus, Dolphin doesn't work.
Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: robman2122 on August 04, 2017, 10:56:56 pm
So reviews are coming in on both the Z2 Play and Z2 Force. While the Force is obviously the higher spec phone, it looks like the Play is winning the quality competition. The Force's screen may not shatter, but it sure does scratch. A screen protector is a must. The Play also has more battery life.

I'll just leave this here: https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/8/3/16086474/motorola-moto-z2-force-review-lenovo-price

Can't find it now but I heard the Z2 Play isn't using 64-bit build of Android and thus, Dolphin doesn't work.
Yes. That was me who confirmed that. Only an ancient version of dolphin will even install and is pretty unplayable due to the age of the build.

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Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: skelton on August 04, 2017, 11:04:24 pm
If kernel Code is available someone can make a 64 bit versiůn of Android, unless some propietary binary blobs avoid that.
Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: DroidX2 on August 05, 2017, 12:55:16 am
If kernel Code is available someone can make a 64 bit versiůn of Android, unless some propietary binary blobs avoid that.

From what I've seen with the original Moto ZPlay, we'll be lucky to get root, especially the Verizon models. Here's hoping though! Tincore would work nicely with that Gamepad mod.

Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: robman2122 on August 05, 2017, 04:13:45 am
So reviews are coming in on both the Z2 Play and Z2 Force. While the Force is obviously the higher spec phone, it looks like the Play is winning the quality competition. The Force's screen may not shatter, but it sure does scratch. A screen protector is a must. The Play also has more battery life.

I'll just leave this here: https://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2017/8/3/16086474/motorola-moto-z2-force-review-lenovo-price

Can't find it now but I heard the Z2 Play isn't using 64-bit build of Android and thus, Dolphin doesn't work.
Yes. That was me who confirmed that. Only an ancient version of dolphin will even install and is pretty unplayable due to the age of the build.

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Screenshot from antutu to verify the 32-bit OS in case anyone was wondering.
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Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: LordDavon on August 10, 2017, 05:33:14 am
I've been reading that the 32GB version of the Moto Z2 Play has 3GB RAM and the 64GB (unlocked) version of the Moto Z2 Play has 4GB RAM.  Does anyone know if the 64GB is also running a 32 bit OS?  Just wondering if the 32 bit version of the OS could be a Verizon thing.
Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: DroidX2 on August 10, 2017, 09:35:43 am
Hey all, seems the Z2Force had a trick up its sleeve, check the specs, 64bit OS. Verizon Model.

Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: dilemina on August 11, 2017, 05:06:10 am
Hey all, seems the Z2Force had a trick up its sleeve, check the specs, 64bit OS. Verizon Model.

Sweet!

Is that yours?


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Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: DroidX2 on August 11, 2017, 06:21:02 am
Yeah! Got it on the 9th. I can see now that the Gamepad will make this one longer than the W3D. I'll do some side by sides once the Gamepad ships. Afterward, guess I'll be putting all my other past Gaming phones up for sale.
Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: dilemina on August 12, 2017, 03:31:14 am
Yeah! Got it on the 9th. I can see now that the Gamepad will make this one longer than the W3D. I'll do some side by sides once the Gamepad ships. Afterward, guess I'll be putting all my other past Gaming phones up for sale.

Hope it works out for you the way you imagine.
If I get some dough, I plan on getting it as well.

Too broke to buy anything now though.


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Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: robman2122 on August 12, 2017, 05:11:14 am
For anyone else who has pre-ordered the gamepad mod from Verizon, are you able to check the status of your order? I stupidly placed my order as a guest instead of with a Verizon account as my line is a new conversion and I hadn't setup the account at that time. Long story short, I have my confirmation email and order number but when I input the information on the status page (order number and last name) is says it can't find the order and asks for a location code, which does not exist on my confirmation. I called Verizon and they couldn't locate it either based on the information I provided but mentioned it might be due to it being a pre-order/backorder and not a regular order that's ready to go. The other odd thing I noticed, is in the email confirmation I received, my last name is not present on the bill to address, but is on the ship to address. The printed confirmation page I got after placing the order has all the information on it though. Anyone else experiencing this or a similar problem?

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Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: DroidX2 on August 12, 2017, 05:29:30 am
For anyone else who has pre-ordered the gamepad mod from Verizon, are you able to check the status of your order? I stupidly placed my order as a guest instead of with a Verizon account as my line is a new conversion and I hadn't setup the account at that time. Long story short, I have my confirmation email and order number but when I input the information on the status page (order number and last name) is says it can't find the order and asks for a location code, which does not exist on my confirmation. I called Verizon and they couldn't locate it either based on the information I provided but mentioned it might be due to it being a pre-order/backorder and not a regular order that's ready to go. The other odd thing I noticed, is in the email confirmation I received, my last name is not present on the bill to address, but is on the ship to address. The printed confirmation page I got after placing the order has all the information on it though. Anyone else experiencing this or a similar problem?

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I planned to pre-order mine tonight, but I also saw it said backorder instead of pre-order, so I assume all the original stock has been pre-ordered. I already have my account set up and device activated so hopefully no issues arise. I did run into a similar issue when registering for my Moto Mod projector rebate. I had to register twice since the first time, I wasn't able to check status, not did I get a confirmation email, but after the second time, I got the confirmation, and am able to track it. I can also see the original order, so I hope that doesn't interfere with anything.

I'm about to pre-order the gamepad now, so if anything arises, I'l let you know.
Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: DroidX2 on August 12, 2017, 05:37:16 am
Yeah! Got it on the 9th. I can see now that the Gamepad will make this one longer than the W3D. I'll do some side by sides once the Gamepad ships. Afterward, guess I'll be putting all my other past Gaming phones up for sale.

Hope it works out for you the way you imagine.
If I get some dough, I plan on getting it as well.

Too broke to buy anything now though.

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Thanks! I hope you can score one. It seems just right for gaming. Although, I heard the dimensions are going to be long, about 9 inches wide, and almost an inch thick with the analog length. Gonna need deep pockets.
Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: robman2122 on August 12, 2017, 05:46:49 am
For anyone else who has pre-ordered the gamepad mod from Verizon, are you able to check the status of your order? I stupidly placed my order as a guest instead of with a Verizon account as my line is a new conversion and I hadn't setup the account at that time. Long story short, I have my confirmation email and order number but when I input the information on the status page (order number and last name) is says it can't find the order and asks for a location code, which does not exist on my confirmation. I called Verizon and they couldn't locate it either based on the information I provided but mentioned it might be due to it being a pre-order/backorder and not a regular order that's ready to go. The other odd thing I noticed, is in the email confirmation I received, my last name is not present on the bill to address, but is on the ship to address. The printed confirmation page I got after placing the order has all the information on it though. Anyone else experiencing this or a similar problem?

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I planned to pre-order mine tonight, but I also saw it said backorder instead of pre-order, so I assume all the original stock has been pre-ordered. I already have my account set up and device activated so hopefully no issues arise. I did run into a similar issue when registering for my Moto Mod projector rebate. I had to register twice since the first time, I wasn't able to check status, not did I get a confirmation email, but after the second time, I got the confirmation, and am able to track it. I can also see the original order, so I hope that doesn't interfere with anything.

I'm about to pre-order the gamepad now, so if anything arises, I'l let you know.
Your rebate offer should be fine. I just got my speaker mod thru the rebate program yesterday. Not the most solid set of speakers but it didn't cost me anything, and ended up shipping way faster than all the estimates they kept giving. I think it said like 4 to 6 weeks to process the claim and then once it "shipped" it said 2 to 3 weeks, but I had it a week later from the shipping notification and only took about 2 weeks to process the claim. I just found a post on reddit that had someone else stating the same problem with not being able to check the status but no mention of the backorder status on the order page. The only mention of backorder with mine was when I spoke to the rep, but I think she was using the term a little loosely since she just simply couldn't find anything related to my order.

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Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: DroidX2 on August 12, 2017, 06:41:13 am
For anyone else who has pre-ordered the gamepad mod from Verizon, are you able to check the status of your order? I stupidly placed my order as a guest instead of with a Verizon account as my line is a new conversion and I hadn't setup the account at that time. Long story short, I have my confirmation email and order number but when I input the information on the status page (order number and last name) is says it can't find the order and asks for a location code, which does not exist on my confirmation. I called Verizon and they couldn't locate it either based on the information I provided but mentioned it might be due to it being a pre-order/backorder and not a regular order that's ready to go. The other odd thing I noticed, is in the email confirmation I received, my last name is not present on the bill to address, but is on the ship to address. The printed confirmation page I got after placing the order has all the information on it though. Anyone else experiencing this or a similar problem?

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I planned to pre-order mine tonight, but I also saw it said backorder instead of pre-order, so I assume all the original stock has been pre-ordered. I already have my account set up and device activated so hopefully no issues arise. I did run into a similar issue when registering for my Moto Mod projector rebate. I had to register twice since the first time, I wasn't able to check status, not did I get a confirmation email, but after the second time, I got the confirmation, and am able to track it. I can also see the original order, so I hope that doesn't interfere with anything.

I'm about to pre-order the gamepad now, so if anything arises, I'l let you know.
Your rebate offer should be fine. I just got my speaker mod thru the rebate program yesterday. Not the most solid set of speakers but it didn't cost me anything, and ended up shipping way faster than all the estimates they kept giving. I think it said like 4 to 6 weeks to process the claim and then once it "shipped" it said 2 to 3 weeks, but I had it a week later from the shipping notification and only took about 2 weeks to process the claim. I just found a post on reddit that had someone else stating the same problem with not being able to check the status but no mention of the backorder status on the order page. The only mention of backorder with mine was when I spoke to the rep, but I think she was using the term a little loosely since she just simply couldn't find anything related to my order.

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Basically experienced everything you did. Missing last name, rep couldn't find order. I'll call in the morning to see what we can find. I can always resubmit the order.
Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: robman2122 on August 12, 2017, 12:27:22 pm
For anyone else who has pre-ordered the gamepad mod from Verizon, are you able to check the status of your order? I stupidly placed my order as a guest instead of with a Verizon account as my line is a new conversion and I hadn't setup the account at that time. Long story short, I have my confirmation email and order number but when I input the information on the status page (order number and last name) is says it can't find the order and asks for a location code, which does not exist on my confirmation. I called Verizon and they couldn't locate it either based on the information I provided but mentioned it might be due to it being a pre-order/backorder and not a regular order that's ready to go. The other odd thing I noticed, is in the email confirmation I received, my last name is not present on the bill to address, but is on the ship to address. The printed confirmation page I got after placing the order has all the information on it though. Anyone else experiencing this or a similar problem?

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I planned to pre-order mine tonight, but I also saw it said backorder instead of pre-order, so I assume all the original stock has been pre-ordered. I already have my account set up and device activated so hopefully no issues arise. I did run into a similar issue when registering for my Moto Mod projector rebate. I had to register twice since the first time, I wasn't able to check status, not did I get a confirmation email, but after the second time, I got the confirmation, and am able to track it. I can also see the original order, so I hope that doesn't interfere with anything.

I'm about to pre-order the gamepad now, so if anything arises, I'l let you know.
Your rebate offer should be fine. I just got my speaker mod thru the rebate program yesterday. Not the most solid set of speakers but it didn't cost me anything, and ended up shipping way faster than all the estimates they kept giving. I think it said like 4 to 6 weeks to process the claim and then once it "shipped" it said 2 to 3 weeks, but I had it a week later from the shipping notification and only took about 2 weeks to process the claim. I just found a post on reddit that had someone else stating the same problem with not being able to check the status but no mention of the backorder status on the order page. The only mention of backorder with mine was when I spoke to the rep, but I think she was using the term a little loosely since she just simply couldn't find anything related to my order.

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Basically experienced everything you did. Missing last name, rep couldn't find order. I'll call in the morning to see what we can find. I can always resubmit the order.
Did you submit it through a Verizon account? Or as a guest?

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Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: SONY on August 12, 2017, 04:04:17 pm
Are there any reviews on/for this controller modular yet?
Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: DroidX2 on August 12, 2017, 05:24:23 pm
For anyone else who has pre-ordered the gamepad mod from Verizon, are you able to check the status of your order? I stupidly placed my order as a guest instead of with a Verizon account as my line is a new conversion and I hadn't setup the account at that time. Long story short, I have my confirmation email and order number but when I input the information on the status page (order number and last name) is says it can't find the order and asks for a location code, which does not exist on my confirmation. I called Verizon and they couldn't locate it either based on the information I provided but mentioned it might be due to it being a pre-order/backorder and not a regular order that's ready to go. The other odd thing I noticed, is in the email confirmation I received, my last name is not present on the bill to address, but is on the ship to address. The printed confirmation page I got after placing the order has all the information on it though. Anyone else experiencing this or a similar problem?

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I planned to pre-order mine tonight, but I also saw it said backorder instead of pre-order, so I assume all the original stock has been pre-ordered. I already have my account set up and device activated so hopefully no issues arise. I did run into a similar issue when registering for my Moto Mod projector rebate. I had to register twice since the first time, I wasn't able to check status, not did I get a confirmation email, but after the second time, I got the confirmation, and am able to track it. I can also see the original order, so I hope that doesn't interfere with anything.

I'm about to pre-order the gamepad now, so if anything arises, I'l let you know.
Your rebate offer should be fine. I just got my speaker mod thru the rebate program yesterday. Not the most solid set of speakers but it didn't cost me anything, and ended up shipping way faster than all the estimates they kept giving. I think it said like 4 to 6 weeks to process the claim and then once it "shipped" it said 2 to 3 weeks, but I had it a week later from the shipping notification and only took about 2 weeks to process the claim. I just found a post on reddit that had someone else stating the same problem with not being able to check the status but no mention of the backorder status on the order page. The only mention of backorder with mine was when I spoke to the rep, but I think she was using the term a little loosely since she just simply couldn't find anything related to my order.

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Basically experienced everything you did. Missing last name, rep couldn't find order. I'll call in the morning to see what we can find. I can always resubmit the order.
Did you submit it through a Verizon account? Or as a guest?

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Submitted through a Verizon account. I entered a second order this morning, but same thing. Currently contacting customer support to get things straight.
Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: DroidX2 on August 12, 2017, 05:25:23 pm
Are there any reviews on/for this controller modular yet?

Just impressions mostly, although they've been very positive. Besides the size, the controller has it all. Even adds a headphone jack to the MotoZ2Force.
Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: robman2122 on August 12, 2017, 05:35:16 pm
For anyone else who has pre-ordered the gamepad mod from Verizon, are you able to check the status of your order? I stupidly placed my order as a guest instead of with a Verizon account as my line is a new conversion and I hadn't setup the account at that time. Long story short, I have my confirmation email and order number but when I input the information on the status page (order number and last name) is says it can't find the order and asks for a location code, which does not exist on my confirmation. I called Verizon and they couldn't locate it either based on the information I provided but mentioned it might be due to it being a pre-order/backorder and not a regular order that's ready to go. The other odd thing I noticed, is in the email confirmation I received, my last name is not present on the bill to address, but is on the ship to address. The printed confirmation page I got after placing the order has all the information on it though. Anyone else experiencing this or a similar problem?

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I planned to pre-order mine tonight, but I also saw it said backorder instead of pre-order, so I assume all the original stock has been pre-ordered. I already have my account set up and device activated so hopefully no issues arise. I did run into a similar issue when registering for my Moto Mod projector rebate. I had to register twice since the first time, I wasn't able to check status, not did I get a confirmation email, but after the second time, I got the confirmation, and am able to track it. I can also see the original order, so I hope that doesn't interfere with anything.

I'm about to pre-order the gamepad now, so if anything arises, I'l let you know.
Your rebate offer should be fine. I just got my speaker mod thru the rebate program yesterday. Not the most solid set of speakers but it didn't cost me anything, and ended up shipping way faster than all the estimates they kept giving. I think it said like 4 to 6 weeks to process the claim and then once it "shipped" it said 2 to 3 weeks, but I had it a week later from the shipping notification and only took about 2 weeks to process the claim. I just found a post on reddit that had someone else stating the same problem with not being able to check the status but no mention of the backorder status on the order page. The only mention of backorder with mine was when I spoke to the rep, but I think she was using the term a little loosely since she just simply couldn't find anything related to my order.

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Basically experienced everything you did. Missing last name, rep couldn't find order. I'll call in the morning to see what we can find. I can always resubmit the order.
Did you submit it through a Verizon account? Or as a guest?

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Submitted through a Verizon account. I entered a second order this morning, but same thing. Currently contacting customer support to get things straight.
Good luck. They couldn't locate my order whatsoever. Let me know how you make out with that


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Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: DroidX2 on August 12, 2017, 06:07:35 pm
For anyone else who has pre-ordered the gamepad mod from Verizon, are you able to check the status of your order? I stupidly placed my order as a guest instead of with a Verizon account as my line is a new conversion and I hadn't setup the account at that time. Long story short, I have my confirmation email and order number but when I input the information on the status page (order number and last name) is says it can't find the order and asks for a location code, which does not exist on my confirmation. I called Verizon and they couldn't locate it either based on the information I provided but mentioned it might be due to it being a pre-order/backorder and not a regular order that's ready to go. The other odd thing I noticed, is in the email confirmation I received, my last name is not present on the bill to address, but is on the ship to address. The printed confirmation page I got after placing the order has all the information on it though. Anyone else experiencing this or a similar problem?

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I planned to pre-order mine tonight, but I also saw it said backorder instead of pre-order, so I assume all the original stock has been pre-ordered. I already have my account set up and device activated so hopefully no issues arise. I did run into a similar issue when registering for my Moto Mod projector rebate. I had to register twice since the first time, I wasn't able to check status, not did I get a confirmation email, but after the second time, I got the confirmation, and am able to track it. I can also see the original order, so I hope that doesn't interfere with anything.

I'm about to pre-order the gamepad now, so if anything arises, I'l let you know.
Your rebate offer should be fine. I just got my speaker mod thru the rebate program yesterday. Not the most solid set of speakers but it didn't cost me anything, and ended up shipping way faster than all the estimates they kept giving. I think it said like 4 to 6 weeks to process the claim and then once it "shipped" it said 2 to 3 weeks, but I had it a week later from the shipping notification and only took about 2 weeks to process the claim. I just found a post on reddit that had someone else stating the same problem with not being able to check the status but no mention of the backorder status on the order page. The only mention of backorder with mine was when I spoke to the rep, but I think she was using the term a little loosely since she just simply couldn't find anything related to my order.

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Basically experienced everything you did. Missing last name, rep couldn't find order. I'll call in the morning to see what we can find. I can always resubmit the order.
Did you submit it through a Verizon account? Or as a guest?

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Submitted through a Verizon account. I entered a second order this morning, but same thing. Currently contacting customer support to get things straight.
Good luck. They couldn't locate my order whatsoever. Let me know how you make out with that


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After speaking with maybe my third or fourth Rep, We finally came to the conclusion. They stated that since the item is on Back-Order, instead of Pre-Order, the Actual Order is not fully placed yet, so no charges are being made. In my MY VERIZON account, there is a section called MY ORDERS where pending orders are placed. They said that it won't show there until the order is complete.

So, long story short, the Order is placed, but because it's on back-order, not complete. However, the status could update at any time once the order completes, or maybe more stock is sent.
Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: robman2122 on August 12, 2017, 06:08:58 pm
For anyone else who has pre-ordered the gamepad mod from Verizon, are you able to check the status of your order? I stupidly placed my order as a guest instead of with a Verizon account as my line is a new conversion and I hadn't setup the account at that time. Long story short, I have my confirmation email and order number but when I input the information on the status page (order number and last name) is says it can't find the order and asks for a location code, which does not exist on my confirmation. I called Verizon and they couldn't locate it either based on the information I provided but mentioned it might be due to it being a pre-order/backorder and not a regular order that's ready to go. The other odd thing I noticed, is in the email confirmation I received, my last name is not present on the bill to address, but is on the ship to address. The printed confirmation page I got after placing the order has all the information on it though. Anyone else experiencing this or a similar problem?

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I planned to pre-order mine tonight, but I also saw it said backorder instead of pre-order, so I assume all the original stock has been pre-ordered. I already have my account set up and device activated so hopefully no issues arise. I did run into a similar issue when registering for my Moto Mod projector rebate. I had to register twice since the first time, I wasn't able to check status, not did I get a confirmation email, but after the second time, I got the confirmation, and am able to track it. I can also see the original order, so I hope that doesn't interfere with anything.

I'm about to pre-order the gamepad now, so if anything arises, I'l let you know.
Your rebate offer should be fine. I just got my speaker mod thru the rebate program yesterday. Not the most solid set of speakers but it didn't cost me anything, and ended up shipping way faster than all the estimates they kept giving. I think it said like 4 to 6 weeks to process the claim and then once it "shipped" it said 2 to 3 weeks, but I had it a week later from the shipping notification and only took about 2 weeks to process the claim. I just found a post on reddit that had someone else stating the same problem with not being able to check the status but no mention of the backorder status on the order page. The only mention of backorder with mine was when I spoke to the rep, but I think she was using the term a little loosely since she just simply couldn't find anything related to my order.

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Basically experienced everything you did. Missing last name, rep couldn't find order. I'll call in the morning to see what we can find. I can always resubmit the order.
Did you submit it through a Verizon account? Or as a guest?

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Submitted through a Verizon account. I entered a second order this morning, but same thing. Currently contacting customer support to get things straight.
Good luck. They couldn't locate my order whatsoever. Let me know how you make out with that


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After speaking with maybe my third or fourth Rep, We finally came to the conclusion. They stated that since the item is on Back-Order, instead of Pre-Order, the Actual Order is not fully placed yet, so no charges are being made. In MY VERIZON account, there is a section called MY ORDERS were pending orders are placed. They said that it won't show there until the order is complete.

So, long story short, the Order is placed, but because it's on back-order, not complete. However, the status could update at any time once the order completes, or maybe more stock is sent.
Ah OK. That makes more sense than what I was told. It's a shame it took that many reps to get you an answer.

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Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: DroidX2 on August 12, 2017, 10:08:57 pm
For anyone else who has pre-ordered the gamepad mod from Verizon, are you able to check the status of your order? I stupidly placed my order as a guest instead of with a Verizon account as my line is a new conversion and I hadn't setup the account at that time. Long story short, I have my confirmation email and order number but when I input the information on the status page (order number and last name) is says it can't find the order and asks for a location code, which does not exist on my confirmation. I called Verizon and they couldn't locate it either based on the information I provided but mentioned it might be due to it being a pre-order/backorder and not a regular order that's ready to go. The other odd thing I noticed, is in the email confirmation I received, my last name is not present on the bill to address, but is on the ship to address. The printed confirmation page I got after placing the order has all the information on it though. Anyone else experiencing this or a similar problem?

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I planned to pre-order mine tonight, but I also saw it said backorder instead of pre-order, so I assume all the original stock has been pre-ordered. I already have my account set up and device activated so hopefully no issues arise. I did run into a similar issue when registering for my Moto Mod projector rebate. I had to register twice since the first time, I wasn't able to check status, not did I get a confirmation email, but after the second time, I got the confirmation, and am able to track it. I can also see the original order, so I hope that doesn't interfere with anything.

I'm about to pre-order the gamepad now, so if anything arises, I'l let you know.
Your rebate offer should be fine. I just got my speaker mod thru the rebate program yesterday. Not the most solid set of speakers but it didn't cost me anything, and ended up shipping way faster than all the estimates they kept giving. I think it said like 4 to 6 weeks to process the claim and then once it "shipped" it said 2 to 3 weeks, but I had it a week later from the shipping notification and only took about 2 weeks to process the claim. I just found a post on reddit that had someone else stating the same problem with not being able to check the status but no mention of the backorder status on the order page. The only mention of backorder with mine was when I spoke to the rep, but I think she was using the term a little loosely since she just simply couldn't find anything related to my order.

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Basically experienced everything you did. Missing last name, rep couldn't find order. I'll call in the morning to see what we can find. I can always resubmit the order.
Did you submit it through a Verizon account? Or as a guest?

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Submitted through a Verizon account. I entered a second order this morning, but same thing. Currently contacting customer support to get things straight.
Good luck. They couldn't locate my order whatsoever. Let me know how you make out with that


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After speaking with maybe my third or fourth Rep, We finally came to the conclusion. They stated that since the item is on Back-Order, instead of Pre-Order, the Actual Order is not fully placed yet, so no charges are being made. In MY VERIZON account, there is a section called MY ORDERS were pending orders are placed. They said that it won't show there until the order is complete.

So, long story short, the Order is placed, but because it's on back-order, not complete. However, the status could update at any time once the order completes, or maybe more stock is sent.
Ah OK. That makes more sense than what I was told. It's a shame it took that many reps to get you an answer.

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Yeah, but it's cool though. Normally, there's one person that seems to know more than everyone else in the department. I just need to keep an eye on when the order does complete so I can delete the second one. I asked if there was a way to separate device payments from the bill, but they said great idea, but no can do. 
Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: SONY on August 12, 2017, 11:52:19 pm
Are there any reviews on/for this controller modular yet?

Just impressions mostly, although they've been very positive. Besides the size, the controller has it all. Even adds a headphone jack to the MotoZ2Force.

Thanks mate, please make a video review of it for us when you get yours because I'm very interested in the all the Moto phone(s) and all the modulars :)
Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: DroidX2 on August 14, 2017, 02:10:34 am
Are there any reviews on/for this controller modular yet?

Just impressions mostly, although they've been very positive. Besides the size, the controller has it all. Even adds a headphone jack to the MotoZ2Force.

Thanks mate, please make a video review of it for us when you get yours because I'm very interested in the all the Moto phone(s) and all the modulars :)

Sure, I'll try to hook something up.
Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: LordDavon on August 14, 2017, 07:10:24 am
So, I finally put my S7 Edge up on Facebook's Marketplace today, and already have 2 people that are asking me questions about it.  As luck would have it, I was reading about the lawsuit Gamevice has against Nintendo, and I checked out their webpage.  Looks like they are coming out with controllers for both of my phones: https://gamevice.com/collections/mobile-console-gaming-android

So, now I am considering cancelling my sale of the S7 Edge for the Moto Z2 and getting the Gamevice for the S7 Edge.  I may get one for my S8+ also.  I've already got the $500 I was putting toward the Moto Z2, so I may just finally get the Cube Mix Plus for some Windows gaming, and the Gamevice for Android gaming.  I can't see getting one for my iPad Pro 10.5 since most of the games that I have on it I also have on Android.

Has anyone used any of their devices?  Are they good controllers?  The Amazon reviews look like some love it and others hate it.

Is there an advantage the Moto Gamepad has that makes it the better setup?
Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: Phawx on August 14, 2017, 03:45:31 pm
So, I finally put my S7 Edge up on Facebook's Marketplace today, and already have 2 people that are asking me questions about it.  As luck would have it, I was reading about the lawsuit Gamevice has against Nintendo, and I checked out their webpage.  Looks like they are coming out with controllers for both of my phones: https://gamevice.com/collections/mobile-console-gaming-android

So, now I am considering cancelling my sale of the S7 Edge for the Moto Z2 and getting the Gamevice for the S7 Edge.  I may get one for my S8+ also.  I've already got the $500 I was putting toward the Moto Z2, so I may just finally get the Cube Mix Plus for some Windows gaming, and the Gamevice for Android gaming.  I can't see getting one for my iPad Pro 10.5 since most of the games that I have on it I also have on Android.

Has anyone used any of their devices?  Are they good controllers?  The Amazon reviews look like some love it and others hate it.

Is there an advantage the Moto Gamepad has that makes it the better setup?

Oh wow!  Bout time Gamevice decided to make one of these for Android.

As for your question, not sure.  The gamevice is a wired connection like the moto gamepad.  It folds up, so that's already a plus.  However, I'm not sure if they will gimp the device and have it only usable *within* their gamevice app.  Hopefully that's not that case.
Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: DroidX2 on August 14, 2017, 06:49:29 pm
That's interesting! Hopefully this starts a trend, and someone eventually comes out with a slide-out controller attachment as to decrease on the length of these devices. Personally, I rather the Moto-Mod Gamepad since it's made for the device and allows for full usage while attached. However, glad to see Gamevice giving Android some love. Samsung devices are a great choice due to the hardware which can handle gaming quite well.

By the way, ROBMAN2122, I just checked my account and the Orders I placed for the Gamepad have shown up. Check your status when you get a chance.
Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: robman2122 on August 14, 2017, 07:20:37 pm
By the way, ROBMAN2122, I just checked my account and the Orders I placed for the Gamepad have shown up. Check your status when you get a chance.

Nothing as of yet. Still appears as if they can't see the order whatsoever. I also haven't been charged yet, but it was stated that no charge would be made until the product was ready to ship. Did you get charged for your order yet?

On a side note, I noticed the sale page on Verizon now states "OUT OF STOCK", so maybe that's affecting my order? It also no longer says preorder for shipping on the 25th either.
Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: Phawx on August 14, 2017, 10:23:25 pm
It's crazy that Aug 2017 is seeing Snail i7 (sort of) moto gamepad and a gamepad for S7 and S8 when we've gone years without any direct connected gamepad
Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: DroidX2 on August 15, 2017, 01:11:31 am
Yeah, it's like somebody realized there's a market all of a sudden. Not sure, just happy it's all happening. As for Snail, according to Belchine, it's supposed to be available tomorrow. My only gripe with Snail is their network compatibility here in the US.
Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: LordDavon on August 15, 2017, 06:21:29 am
I've cancelled the sale on the S7 Edge and I think I am getting the Gamevice for the S7 Edge.  Since it also has a MicroUSB port and headphone jack, I'm not losing any ports with it.  I can also charge the device while playing.  I'm just torn on getting it for the S8+ instead or getting one for both. 

The S7 Edge just sits by my computer so I don't lose calls; T-Mobile Digits basically turns it into a second cell phone with the same number, so both phones ring when I get a call.  Since it is mostly idle, it makes more sense to get it for the S7 Edge.  Although, the S8+ is a bit faster, and could probably run emulators a bit better than the S7 Edge.

I think I'm going to sleep on it for the night.  Still debating the Cube Mix Plus too.  Oy!
Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: Phawx on August 15, 2017, 04:26:49 pm
I've cancelled the sale on the S7 Edge and I think I am getting the Gamevice for the S7 Edge.  Since it also has a MicroUSB port and headphone jack, I'm not losing any ports with it.  I can also charge the device while playing.  I'm just torn on getting it for the S8+ instead or getting one for both. 

The S7 Edge just sits by my computer so I don't lose calls; T-Mobile Digits basically turns it into a second cell phone with the same number, so both phones ring when I get a call.  Since it is mostly idle, it makes more sense to get it for the S7 Edge.  Although, the S8+ is a bit faster, and could probably run emulators a bit better than the S7 Edge.

I think I'm going to sleep on it for the night.  Still debating the Cube Mix Plus too.  Oy!

I'd say getting the S7 of the Gamevice is a fine option.  It's priced at $53 which isn't too crazy, plus if you ever upgrade you could probably sell it off for $30~
Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: LordDavon on August 15, 2017, 05:15:39 pm
I'd say getting the S7 of the Gamevice is a fine option.  It's priced at $53 which isn't too crazy, plus if you ever upgrade you could probably sell it off for $30~

I think I came to the same conclusion.  Plus, I own the S7 Edge outright and the S8+ is on EIP payments.

I'm going to start a new thread for the Gamevice, since I'm kind of hijacking the Moto thread, and that was never my intention.
Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: SONY on August 16, 2017, 09:44:18 pm
Are there any reviews on/for this controller modular yet?

Just impressions mostly, although they've been very positive. Besides the size, the controller has it all. Even adds a headphone jack to the MotoZ2Force.

Thanks mate, please make a video review of it for us when you get yours because I'm very interested in the all the Moto phone(s) and all the modulars :)

Sure, I'll try to hook something up.

Cheers, appreciate it. Can't wait :D
Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: DroidX2 on August 19, 2017, 04:54:49 am
By the way, ROBMAN2122, I just checked my account and the Orders I placed for the Gamepad have shown up. Check your status when you get a chance.

Nothing as of yet. Still appears as if they can't see the order whatsoever. I also haven't been charged yet, but it was stated that no charge would be made until the product was ready to ship. Did you get charged for your order yet?

On a side note, I noticed the sale page on Verizon now states "OUT OF STOCK", so maybe that's affecting my order? It also no longer says preorder for shipping on the 25th either.

Hey Rob, check your status. I just checked and it seems both of the gamepads I ordered have been shipped and will arrive Tuesday. Nice that they are early!
Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: robman2122 on August 19, 2017, 04:57:28 am
By the way, ROBMAN2122, I just checked my account and the Orders I placed for the Gamepad have shown up. Check your status when you get a chance.

Nothing as of yet. Still appears as if they can't see the order whatsoever. I also haven't been charged yet, but it was stated that no charge would be made until the product was ready to ship. Did you get charged for your order yet?

On a side note, I noticed the sale page on Verizon now states "OUT OF STOCK", so maybe that's affecting my order? It also no longer says preorder for shipping on the 25th either.

Hey Rob, check your status. I just checked and it seems both of the gamepads I ordered have been shipped and will arrive Tuesday. Nice that they are early!
Nice! I just got a shipping notification from FedEx about it. Checked my status and it also shows that now as well. Thanks for the heads up! Glad to see it's coming early too. Now I have to convince my boss to let me take the day off to sign for it.

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Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: Phawx on August 19, 2017, 09:54:59 pm
Nice.  Grats guys.  Looking forward to your impressions!
Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: DroidX2 on August 20, 2017, 01:08:42 am
By the way, ROBMAN2122, I just checked my account and the Orders I placed for the Gamepad have shown up. Check your status when you get a chance.

Nothing as of yet. Still appears as if they can't see the order whatsoever. I also haven't been charged yet, but it was stated that no charge would be made until the product was ready to ship. Did you get charged for your order yet?

On a side note, I noticed the sale page on Verizon now states "OUT OF STOCK", so maybe that's affecting my order? It also no longer says preorder for shipping on the 25th either.

Hey Rob, check your status. I just checked and it seems both of the gamepads I ordered have been shipped and will arrive Tuesday. Nice that they are early!
Nice! I just got a shipping notification from FedEx about it. Checked my status and it also shows that now as well. Thanks for the heads up! Glad to see it's coming early too. Now I have to convince my boss to let me take the day off to sign for it.

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Lol! Good luck.

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Nice.  Grats guys.  Looking forward to your impressions!

Check your PM's
Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: Phawx on August 20, 2017, 05:54:36 pm

Check your PM's

Got it :)

Thanks
Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: robman2122 on August 22, 2017, 06:02:17 pm
It finally came! Here are some pictures along with screenshots of the mod screen that pops up when it's attached. First impressions of how the device feels are good. I'll post an update later once I've gotten the chance to really test it out with some games/emulators. In the meantime if anyone has any questions at all or would like to see a different angle of the mod itself, please let me know and I'll see what I can do. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170822/572eec12f0cb418665465873b94e181f.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170822/7948568dcbb83b01e9c3678416964f0b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170822/8dfd24aead81f00ec1f22d9138b24ba1.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170822/d1b57f7dd32e8a184f89db6e3905959c.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170822/acfd436af5fabf46ede2a424e3d78872.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170822/c230f6588d40338fcb3862ab4ac091df.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170822/c59fbfd8f3028f9b6f018acec6a6b5a1.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170822/deb5d8d9e8564e0a3cdfa44f8afaf3e1.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170822/55de8d92735e44c2aba3b788fc5e1d22.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170822/f7b95559132e99df02a0a4975739b041.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170822/f9aae7dfd54034d6bb30fc0964ed8472.jpg)

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Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: DroidX2 on August 22, 2017, 06:38:54 pm
It finally came! Here are some pictures along with screenshots of the mod screen that pops up when it's attached. First impressions of how the device feels are good. I'll post an update later once I've gotten the chance to really test it out with some games/emulators. In the meantime if anyone has any questions at all or would like to see a different angle of the mod itself, please let me know and I'll see what I can do. (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170822/572eec12f0cb418665465873b94e181f.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170822/7948568dcbb83b01e9c3678416964f0b.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170822/8dfd24aead81f00ec1f22d9138b24ba1.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170822/d1b57f7dd32e8a184f89db6e3905959c.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170822/acfd436af5fabf46ede2a424e3d78872.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170822/c230f6588d40338fcb3862ab4ac091df.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170822/c59fbfd8f3028f9b6f018acec6a6b5a1.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170822/deb5d8d9e8564e0a3cdfa44f8afaf3e1.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170822/55de8d92735e44c2aba3b788fc5e1d22.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170822/f7b95559132e99df02a0a4975739b041.jpg)(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170822/f9aae7dfd54034d6bb30fc0964ed8472.jpg)

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Lucky!!! They tried to deliver this morning but I wasn't home. Oh well, I'll look at yours until I can get mine.
Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: robman2122 on August 22, 2017, 08:27:32 pm
So I'm a little discouraged.. Maybe it's just the Moto Z2 Play or maybe it's the mod itself, but I'm experiencing a touch of input lag, which is sad considering a lag free experience was one of the biggest selling points of this device. It's not horrendous, but enough to make playing platforms near impossible. I'm hoping it's something that can be addressed with a software update at some point in the near future and not simply because of the underperfomance of the Z2 Play. I can visibly see about 0.5 seconds of lag between input and in game action. And this is in both emulators and native Android games so far. The good news is that it does work fine with emulators though, just that little bit of lag is killing it for me so far.

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Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: robman2122 on August 23, 2017, 12:00:30 am
Another interesting bit of information, while you can charge the phone through the mod, you are presented with the message of "charging slowly" even when using a turbocharger. The phone still charges first, like most moto mods, but this seems like quite an oversight on Lenovo's part..

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Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: DroidX2 on August 23, 2017, 01:56:33 am
So I'm a little discouraged.. Maybe it's just the Moto Z2 Play or maybe it's the mod itself, but I'm experiencing a touch of input lag, which is sad considering a lag free experience was one of the biggest selling points of this device. It's not horrendous, but enough to make playing platforms near impossible. I'm hoping it's something that can be addressed with a software update at some point in the near future and not simply because of the underperfomance of the Z2 Play. I can visibly see about 0.5 seconds of lag between input and in game action. And this is in both emulators and native Android games so far. The good news is that it does work fine with emulators though, just that little bit of lag is killing it for me so far.

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Hmmm, interesting. Like you said, considering that the no lag was a major selling point. I hope it was a fluke. Have you tried other Android games to see if they had the lag? I picked mine up, but haven't tried it yet since I'm not home. Most impressions have had it as responsive, so hopefully reconnecting it fixes it.
Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: robman2122 on August 23, 2017, 02:18:48 am
So I'm a little discouraged.. Maybe it's just the Moto Z2 Play or maybe it's the mod itself, but I'm experiencing a touch of input lag, which is sad considering a lag free experience was one of the biggest selling points of this device. It's not horrendous, but enough to make playing platforms near impossible. I'm hoping it's something that can be addressed with a software update at some point in the near future and not simply because of the underperfomance of the Z2 Play. I can visibly see about 0.5 seconds of lag between input and in game action. And this is in both emulators and native Android games so far. The good news is that it does work fine with emulators though, just that little bit of lag is killing it for me so far.

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Hmmm, interesting. Like you said, considering that the no lag was a major selling point. I hope it was a fluke. Have you tried other Android games to see if they had the lag? I picked mine up, but haven't tried it yet since I'm not home. Most impressions have had it as responsive, so hopefully reconnecting it fixes it.
I've tried reconnecting as well as restarting the mod. I've also tried it in several android games, all of which are in the Moto mod app that downloads with the mod itself and the lag is still present. I've noticed that some of the lag is due to the longer travel on the buttons than Im used to for a controller, but that only accounts for some of it. I've noticed it seem worse on certain games and better on others. For instance, things seem fine on the android game Only One. The lag is noticeable on Asphalt 8, but I can seem to compensate for it there. It's downright awful on Minecraft Pocket Edition. As for emulators, they all seem to have an equal amount of lag, but then again, most (but not all) of my emulation needs are funneled through retroarch. I can physically depress the button and lift my finger in the air before Mario jumps in Super Mario World for instance. To put it in perspective, I've used one of those cheap Keychain Bluetooth controllers for China and had less lag than this thing. It's very disheartening considering I specifically got this phone for the gamepad mod and was sold on the "lag free" setup of everything.

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Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: robman2122 on August 23, 2017, 03:25:44 am
Just another oddity I noticed, and this could be strictly from retroarch, but when I set my phone down for a bit with a game active and open (maybe 15 minutes or so?) the gamepad mod was no longer interacting with my phone. I had to reattach the mod and press the recent apps button to pause and reopen retroarch before it started working again. Haven't had it conk out mid game at all on me though.

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Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: DroidX2 on August 23, 2017, 03:58:31 am
You breaking my heart, lol! I can only hope it's a defective unit. Still haven't gotten home to try mine yet. But at least we have a chance at it being fixed with an update.
Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: LordDavon on August 23, 2017, 05:11:48 am
I have an arcade machine (9-in-1 converted machine) where it is wired wrong.  The buttons actually register on depress, rather than press.  I wonder if there is something wrong with the controller doing the same thing.  Doesn't sound like the same thing, since the machine's joystick registers fine and yours sounds like it is having lag.

That reminds me, I still have to work on that machine.  I usually only fire them up when we have a party, Thanksgiving, Christmas, or my daughters have their friends over for a night (my son is in diapers), which is why it hasn't been a priority.  I'm rambling...
Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: robman2122 on August 23, 2017, 02:11:21 pm
I have an arcade machine (9-in-1 converted machine) where it is wired wrong.  The buttons actually register on depress, rather than press.  I wonder if there is something wrong with the controller doing the same thing.  Doesn't sound like the same thing, since the machine's joystick registers fine and yours sounds like it is having lag.

That reminds me, I still have to work on that machine.  I usually only fire them up when we have a party, Thanksgiving, Christmas, or my daughters have their friends over for a night (my son is in diapers), which is why it hasn't been a priority.  I'm rambling...

I don't believe that's the case with the mod. If I press and hold the button, the action happens, it's just delayed. I can depress the button to the point where it's almost bottomed out and hold it there without any action happening until I put more pressure on the button, so as I said before, the travel of the buttons themselves definitely play a small part in this, but it's a much smaller piece of the overall lag.

One thing I noticed in my tinkering last night, the lag itself seems to be dependent on the amount of RAM in use. I downloaded an app I've used in the past called All-In-One Toolbox, which will quickly analyze your running processes and whatnot and allow you to "Free Up RAM" with a simple click. I've noticed that when I perform this process, the controller seems to work much closer to what I expected, but it is short lived, as when the processes start eating the RAM back up, the lag slowly returns.

I even went as far as enabling developer options and turning off all background processes (big mistake by the way, as my alarm clock was tied to this and never went off this morning, almost making me late for work) but no dice. After removing anything that wasn't essential to the phone that could be running in the background, I've noticed what seems like a (very) slight improvement, but still nowhere near where I expected.

If anyone else has any other suggestions, I'm all ears. Hopefully I'm the exception and everyone else's works as intended. Any thoughts or experiences with this DroidX2?
Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: DroidX2 on August 23, 2017, 04:33:51 pm
Finally got a chance to check mine out and well, from the games I've tested, I haven't noticed lag. The d-pad does require a bit of force to press. Similar to the Logitech powershell, but not quite as hard. The face buttons themselves all respond accordingly.

So far I've tested Dan the man, implosion, and ristar. There is an issue with Ristar where the face buttons work, but not the d-pad and analog.

I'll test more games later.
Title: Re: Android Gaming Controller: Moto Mod Gamepad
Post by: robman2122 on August 23, 2017, 04:36:13 pm
So there is a glimmer of hope on the horizon. I found through some research, that the All-In-One Toolbox app that I was using has a plugin called "Gamebooster". With this plugin, I can assign and launch apps through the plugin, which "boosts" them. From what I can tell, it first clears out an available RAM in the system and then launches the specified app with a higher priority. When launched like this, Retroarch seems to exhibit less input lag from the mod. It is still there a smidge, but much much closer to where it should be in my opinion. Using this method gives me a much more acceptable and tolerable level of lag and I am even able to play platformers again without much adjustment/compensation. The only downside to all of this, is I am unable to use any of the front-end apps I had setup in advance. Even if I launch one of the front ends with the gamebooster plugin, it does not then pass the priority level onto the emulator. Hopefully Lenovo comes up with a more universal fix (if it's not a one-off issue that is).