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Re: PGS portable gaming system on windows 10!!!
« Reply #15 on: April 10, 2016, 01:45:32 pm »
While it doesn't state that specifically, the post on gamedev.net only specifies touch capabilities on the secondary screen.

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Re: PGS portable gaming system on windows 10!!!
« Reply #16 on: April 10, 2016, 01:54:31 pm »
While it doesn't state that specifically, the post on gamedev.net only specifies touch capabilities on the secondary screen.

Yeahh, nah, they only mention the touch for the second screen in the context of what it can be used for ie a touchpad , keyboard etc.  It's not to say that it was pointed out because the other screen doesn't have touch.

I you read the spiel, it states that with it's LTE you will be able to use it as a high end smartphone. The top screen will be touch just like on a smartphone.
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leafar

Re: PGS portable gaming system on windows 10!!!
« Reply #17 on: April 10, 2016, 02:20:42 pm »
Doesn't said touch screen, But must be for small screen,even the second display is a touch screen or eink , you people's notice in YouTube is one replay comments from the company and another one in Russian I want to know what it says
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Re: PGS portable gaming system on windows 10!!!
« Reply #18 on: April 10, 2016, 03:51:41 pm »
This sort of device at this price point is just barely possible, but I don't hold out much hope that a new company with no existing infrastructure could pull it off.  I certainly wouldn't risk any money on a preorder, if they even get that far.

I like the layout, but I doubt they'll execute it well.  The dpad looks to be of the dreaded 4-separate-buttons variety, and who knows if the sticks will be decent - especially the "telescoping" ones on the HC.  Just like the win and other chinese gaming handhelds, this looks like a good idea that will be ruined by terrible execution.

It's also worth noting that the lite version would likely have <3hrs worth of run time playing actual games.  Powering the x7's beefier GPU as well as 2 displays will drain the smaller battery in very short order.

But go ahead, PGS.  Prove me wrong.

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Re: PGS portable gaming system on windows 10!!!
« Reply #19 on: April 10, 2016, 04:50:47 pm »
Can we all say Smach Z :(

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Re: PGS portable gaming system on windows 10!!!
« Reply #20 on: April 10, 2016, 05:29:13 pm »
Yeah it's seriously giving a Smach Zero vibe, but with slightly less hype.

Anyway, I don't see how the top screen ISN'T a touchscreen. It has a slider design with the device looking like a smartphone when closed and it'll also be dual-booting with Android.

redlemon

Re: PGS portable gaming system on windows 10!!!
« Reply #21 on: April 10, 2016, 06:01:00 pm »
I doubt this will come to fruition but I do think it's exciting that win10 games consoles seem to becoming a thing that multiple companies are attempting.

LordDavon

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« Reply #22 on: April 11, 2016, 06:09:04 pm »
This is a scam, unless the pricing is all about the smaller, less capable unit, and the bells and whistles one will be $500.  It comes at the right time though.  Since it has been posted in the GPD-Win thread, maybe it will light a fire under their butts and get them to add clickable sticks. ;-)

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Re: PGS portable gaming system on windows 10!!!
« Reply #23 on: April 12, 2016, 12:46:08 am »
So I have some feedback from PGSLAb and am waiting on more feedback. This is the comms I have had with them so far.



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@PGSLab

When will you have a prototype ready?

By the way, I'd lose that gimmicky second screen, put the controls in a line above and then add a keyboard in the bottom half. There is a number of games that won't even boot unless they detect a keyboard is attached


PGSLab
@vcoleiro1 Hi. We know about keyboard detection issue in some games. To solve this problem, we wrote a simple driver that emulates a keyboard connection.
The already have prototypes. We plan to release the final examples of the device in June-Jule 2016


vcoleiro1
@PGSLab

If you already have a prototype, I think you should show it now. There is a strong opinion on the internet that this is vapour ware at best. That is what people are saying. So showing even a crude prototype now could help convince people otherwise. Also, no one can find any info on your company PGSLab, there is no About section on your site and Google searches come up dry. The only info people have found is that your site is hosted in Russia. But nothing about your company

Also, the second talking point is the price, is the plan to still make the extreme model $250. Or is that price likely to change

By the way, a keyboard would be far better than that touchscreen. Second touch screens always end up gimmicky unless like the NDS you have an eco system built around it to support it. But if your locked into that second screen, I suppose me saying this is meaningless.

Have you guys seen the Pandora (and soon to be released Pyra) and the GPD WIN?

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Re: PGS portable gaming system on windows 10!!!
« Reply #24 on: April 12, 2016, 01:00:41 am »
So I have some feedback from PGSLAb and am waiting on more feedback. This is the comms I have had with them so far.



vcoleiro1
@PGSLab

When will you have a prototype ready?

By the way, I'd lose that gimmicky second screen, put the controls in a line above and then add a keyboard in the bottom half. There is a number of games that won't even boot unless they detect a keyboard is attached


PGSLab
@vcoleiro1 Hi. We know about keyboard detection issue in some games. To solve this problem, we wrote a simple driver that emulates a keyboard connection.
The already have prototypes. We plan to release the final examples of the device in June-Jule 2016


vcoleiro1
@PGSLab

If you already have a prototype, I think you should show it now. There is a strong opinion on the internet that this is vapour ware at best. That is what people are saying. So showing even a crude prototype now could help convince people otherwise. Also, no one can find any info on your company PGSLab, there is no About section on your site and Google searches come up dry. The only info people have found is that your site is hosted in Russia. But nothing about your company

Also, the second talking point is the price, is the plan to still make the extreme model $250. Or is that price likely to change

By the way, a keyboard would be far better than that touchscreen. Second touch screens always end up gimmicky unless like the NDS you have an eco system built around it to support it. But if your locked into that second screen, I suppose me saying this is meaningless.

Have you guys seen the Pandora (and soon to be released Pyra) and the GPD WIN?
Good Work!

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Re: PGS portable gaming system on windows 10!!!
« Reply #25 on: April 12, 2016, 01:54:25 am »
Here's their reply to my last questions to them


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@victorcoleiro Hi. Thanks for suggestions.
We have several test prototypes, but they are far from what can be shown on the photos ("Frankenstein prototypes" - without case, second display etc). Soon we will have a prototype similar to the final render, which we show in the forums and the press.
And sure, we know about Pandora\Pyra\GPD WIN.
Pandora and Pyra are interesting devices. They certainly good fit for emulators. Unfortunately, they are not compatible with Windows games.
GPD - is pretty well-proven team of developers of gaming systems. Although GPD WIN their first device on Windows, we have no doubt in their success. But unfortunately, in real-world gaming tests with a single-channel memory z8500 almost twice slower than z8750 with dual-channel memory. We wish them luck and hope that they will reconsider their choice about 8500.
Details about the PGS team, we can tell you later, because the team is still in the process of formation. But now I can say that every member of the team is a fan of portable gaming systems and a highly qualified specialist of his field. Our multilingual team has Americans, Japanese, Chinese, Russians and Indians. Among them, engineers, IT specialists, programmers, etc.
We very much want the community understands - we realy want to do the best thing in the portable gaming world. Quality materials, quality device. From portable gamers for portable gamers.

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Re: PGS portable gaming system on windows 10!!!
« Reply #26 on: April 12, 2016, 02:59:30 am »
I personally don't have much issue with them going with a second screen as long as the Windows 10 keyboard is fully useable. I actually suggested that idea in one of the earlier pages of the GPD Win topics, though it really does sound like it would be an expensive thing to do.
Right now, there's a mini PC called the Voyo V3 with a Z8700, 4 GB RAM, and 128 GB internal storage that goes for around $200 on various websites at the moment. I'm sure screens would add a lot of costs, especially two screens, but if a box with similar specs can go for $200-210, then I assume what they're aiming for could be doable if they're somehow able to source their screens cheaply. Just gotta wait and see if this ends up being yet another piece of vaporware or a real, revolutionary handheld gaming experience.

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Re: PGS portable gaming system on windows 10!!!
« Reply #27 on: April 12, 2016, 03:05:58 am »
@AVahne

Yes, but it's a lot more than just the additions of screens.

There's the 6000mAh batery, yes both screens , LTE chips, 2 cameras, Game controls , more ram, 5.1 sound etc etc. There a lot of additionals that tend to be the most expensive components.


If it does to fruition , I'd say they will increase the price.

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Re: PGS portable gaming system on windows 10!!!
« Reply #28 on: April 12, 2016, 03:21:50 am »
Yeah, seems like a bit of wishful thinking on their end to have the prices for both models being so low. Guess we'll know within the next few months or so.

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Re: PGS portable gaming system on windows 10!!!
« Reply #29 on: April 12, 2016, 05:50:51 am »
Their responses there seem to make me think I need to pull support for the GPD Win. I'll probably give it a week or so before the indiegogo campaign ends and try to get a refund. This device seems awesome especially if they can make it only $250.

 

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