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i reckon its quite clear what theyve done here. theyve taken the gba sp clone and rebranded it with their name. one line in the specs kinda gives it away:

"than 95% GBA cassette games"

bad translation perhaps, but to me it says that itll play 95% of gba cartridges. just like the gba sp clone. they probably coded a new frontend, and stopped you from having to jump through hoops to replace inbuilt roms via usb like the other sp clone. bit of a low blow imo.

remember that dingoo dont manufacture their own consoles they just rebrand other peoples and code their own software (or steal other peoples) for them. i dont think this is anything to get excited about.


Mod note:
This topic is split from the thread about the "Dingoo Digital's new handheld A360 - A step backward" and it being unoriginal. The discussion got sidetracked from the original topic, so this now has its own topic.

Why blaming them of stealing other peoples software, without actual proof?

Compare Dingoo's GBA and GPSP and you'll see. Same glitches in the same games in the same moments. Coincidence?

Quote from: Chris23235 on January 04, 2010, 06:11:57 pm

Why blaming them of stealing other peoples software, without actual proof?

Compare Dingoo's GBA and GPSP and you'll see. Same glitches in the same games in the same moments. Coincidence?

No proof. Many different emulators have the same glitches in the same games. Just look at different PC-Engine Emulators for example, many of them have the same glitches, when it comes to emulating "Outrun". Many Dreamcast Emulators have the same glitches, when it comes to displaying the background in "Rez". Many N64 Emulators have the same glitches, when it comes to displaying the characters in "Paper Mario". This isn't a proof. And in fact, I never heard anybody saying, including Exophase, that he has a PROOF, that gpsp code is used in the native FW emulator.
I don't say, that it is prooven, that they don't use gpsp code, but I am a little tired of people accusing somebody of something, they can't proof.

@ gibberish
What you call a frontend is the main reason, why the Dingoo was successful in the first place. Most users, which bought the device use mainly the native Firmware and I must say, this FW is well thought and very stable. If it is so easy, why nobody before Dingoo Digital made such a device? In fact, most open Handheld systems lack of any good packaged player applications and emulators and almost every MP3 Handheld I have seen besides the Dingoo lacks usability, emulator variety, video and audio codec variety and a well thought menu structure. In all these points, the Dingoo sticks out of the masses of all the MP3 players that are on the market.
It is easy to say
"It is common knowledge that the standard emulators that come on the dingoo are 'stolen' open source projects, for which they should have released their source and havent."
But then it should be easy for you to show us all here the proof, cause this should be common knowledge too.

I wish you would back up, what you say with facts, where Exophase prooved that the native Dingoo emulator is using his code?
You should really read my posts, this would help. I asked you for a proof, not for an accusation, I am still waiting for one. Instead, you expand your accusations to the other emulators on the Dingoo. This is a strange strategy. You make an accusation, somebody asks you for a proof, you repeat the accusation, somebody asks you for a proof, you expand your accusation. I am not arguing for the sake of the argument, I just want to know, where your profound knowledge of code stealing by Dingoo comes from.

And with your other point, you were unable to find any device emulating Neo Geo before the Dingoo in the other thread, why bring this up here again, when you still can't name a device with similar emulating capabilities then the Dingoo?

So it is, that you are not able to tell me, where Expophase prooved, that Dingoo Digital stole his code?
Instead, you use your now well known strategy to expand your accusations by saying "i also believe others when they say that dingoo took zsnesx or whatever it is called, and a bunch of other open emus to use on their device". Who said what? Any Source? No?
Sad, then you are just spreading Internet rumors.

http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php?/topic/49458-gpsp-on-dinux/

exophase admits that the dingoo gba emulator is a port of gpsp in this thread. if you choose to call him liars as well then you're a bigger idiot than i thought.

Okay this topic has been split, you two and anybody else can not continue your discussion here.

Do not start private attacks at each other, flaming, or anything derogatory towards any members.

A couple of comments:

 - That thread doesn't offer any 'proof' at all.  There is a claim that it is the same code, but how do we know this?  Because two different emulators happen to glitch at the same point in the same game?  Or because someone has looked at the compiled code on the Dingoo, byte for byte, and found it matches with the other emulator?

 - Does anyone else see the irony in complaints that someone has pirated emulator code, yet doesn't complain that emulators are generally used to run pirated ROMs?  If you're going to complain about copyright violation or theft of intellectual property, you should be complaining about both.

- Does anyone else see the irony in complaints that someone has pirated emulator code, yet doesn't complain that emulators are generally used to run pirated ROMs?  If you're going to complain about copyright violation or theft of intellectual property, you should be complaining about both.

Now THAT's a good valid point.  I complain about neither, because I benefit from both!!

One thing that is known is that their SNES emulator is directly derived from Snes9x. Here's proof.

This is exactly the kind of proof I was talking about. It seems clear, if you look in the Sim File, you find more strings like that, Strings like "Not Snes9x Format", that seem to be part of the original Snes9x. This is some kind of evidence. I never heard anybody coming up with something like this regarding the GBA emulator.