Author Topic: JXD s602 Vs. JXD s5110 (Vs. YDPG17 maybe?) (Read 14475 times)

Dan0 · « **on:** September 23, 2012, 12:58:58 am »

Hi, hello everyone

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I?ve become interested in getting a handheld console for emulation and, after reading a lot and keeping in mind my budget (around $100), I think I might go for either the s602 or the s5110, both from JXD. I?m also interested in the Yinlips YDPG17, but it seems that all of Yinlips handhelds have issues with button combinations (from what I've read, they are at least more crippling than JXD's consoles). Since I haven't found any review that deals with the YDPG17 in depth, I'm not sure if those issues have been addressed in this new console.

Now, asuming one roots the consoles, Install proper emulators and, if available, installs a custom rom, how well do they perform?

I'd like to know in depth details for these three on:

1) Android gaming
2) Emulation in general
3) Screen
4) Battery Life
5) Last , and certainly not least, Controls.

?)Maybe some Pros/Cons for Each?

Any help would be really appreciated.

Thanks.

(P.S: I've already read the different reviews made by people like Deen0X and Skelton, and although they are a brilliant read, i'd like something more focused on comparison rather than description. Thanks for your time)

(P.S2: on a somewhat different note: how's Amiga emulation on Android, in general?)

skelton · « **Reply #1 on:** September 23, 2012, 11:02:48 am »

I don't have a Yinlips g17, so impossible for me to talk about this device, but I can compare s602 ans s5110:

1. Android gaming: Both perform rather similar, but s5110 is a bit more compatible because of screen resolution.
2. Emulators: Both are pretty similar, but s602 has better performance specially in mame and psx.
3. Screen: Much more better in s5110, in terms of resolution and responsiveness.
4. Battery life: Battery life is poor in s602, about 2 h 30 maximum, in s5110 you get 4 h or 4h 30 easily.
5. Controls: Better in s602, much easier to perform special moves and no ghosting buttons or combo issues.
6. Scene: Custom roms for s5110 and more to come, no custom roms for s602 (maybe they will come or maybe not, at least not made by me)
7. Connectivity: s5110 has USB OTG, so you can connect a flash drive,mouse or a gamepad. S602 doesn't allow usb otg.

tiagao_extremo · « **Reply #2 on:** September 23, 2012, 04:02:45 pm »

Quote from: skelton on September 23, 2012, 11:02:48 am

I don't have a Yinlips g17, so impossible for me to talk about this device, but I can compare s602 ans s5110:

1. Android gaming: Both perform rather similar, but s5110 is a bit more compatible because of screen resolution.
2. Emulators: Both are pretty similar, but s602 has better performance specially in mame and psx.
3. Screen: Much more better in s5110, in terms of resolution and responsiveness.
4. Battery life: Battery life is poor in s602, about 2 h 30 maximum, in s5110 you get 4 h or 4h 30 easily.
5. Controls: Better in s602, much easier to perform special moves and no ghosting buttons or combo issues.
6. Scene: Custom roms for s5110 and more to come, no custom roms for s602 (maybe they will come or maybe not, at least not made by me)
7. Connectivity: s5110 has USB OTG, so you can connect a flash drive,mouse or a gamepad. S602 doesn't allow usb otg.

Thanks for the comparison Skelton. I think i can live with the JXD S602, even if it's not perfect. Just one question: Is there any specific problems why you can't make your custom roms for the S602?

skelton · « **Reply #3 on:** September 23, 2012, 04:12:04 pm »

They use a different firmware format that cannot be extracted, so unless we get source code, it's impossible right now.

Dan0 · « **Reply #4 on:** September 23, 2012, 05:03:44 pm »

Thank you so much. Skelton, you're the Best!!
This is the kind of info I was looking for. Greatly appreciated.

Well, I would like good Android gaming compatibility, BUT I am, after all, more interested in emulation for the time being.

The controls are a big issue for me, and since emulation seems a to be a bit better on the s602, I think I?m going for it.

There are two issues however that make the s5110 more attractive: Battery and "Scene"

Is it possible to change the battery for a better one? I mean, from what I understand, the s602's battery is kinda crappy - at least, there are better options. And I remember reading of someone in this forum who made some customizations to a Yinlips console; amongst them, the exchange of battery.

On the scene front: what ways are there to get the source code? Are there any way for the owners of s602 to help?
I think Skelton, Snesfan and ... other-guy-I-don't-remember, were on this, at least for a while.

tiagao_extremo · « **Reply #5 on:** September 23, 2012, 05:37:32 pm »

Quote from: Dan0 on September 23, 2012, 05:03:44 pm

Thank you so much. Skelton, you're the Best!!
This is the kind of info I was looking for. Greatly appreciated.

Well, I would like good Android gaming compatibility, BUT I am, after all, more interested in emulation for the time being.

The controls are a big issue for me, and since emulation seems a to be a bit better on the s602, I think I?m going for it.

There are two issues however that make the s5110 more attractive: Battery and "Scene"

Is it possible to change the battery for a better one? I mean, from what I understand, the s602's battery is kinda crappy - at least, there are better options. And I remember reading of someone in this forum who made some customizations to a Yinlips console; amongst them, the exchange of battery.

On the scene front: what ways are there to get the source code? Are there any way for the owners of s602 to help?
I think Skelton, Snesfan and ... other-guy-I-don't-remember, were on this, at least for a while.

Hi Dan0, i ended up choosing the S602 also. Especially cause there's no ghost or combo issues with the buttons, something that's mandatory when you're talking about emulation. About the battery downside, i'm not so sure about the JXD S5110, but the JXD S602 actually it's 2200mAh, instead of 2500mAh as the specifications says. If someone could tell us what's the battery amperage from the S5110 that would help. In order for a device to have better battery duration, it also needs to be bigger, so i'm guessing that you can't just put the battery from the S5110 inside the JXD S602 cause it won't fit. I'm saying this cause i have an idea that i want to try as soon as i get my JXD S602 just like i did with my a320 and 760+. You can put two batteries together in parallel, but the second would need to be connected from outside the device. The aesthetic aspect won't be looking so great, but if i can extend battery duration to 4 - 4:30 hours that won't be a problem. I just found these ones, that are almost the same the JXD S602 uses.
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http://www.dealextreme.com/p/3-7v-2300mah-replacement-battery-pack-for-dingoo-a-320-30996
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About the battery there's something we can do. But about the scene it seems like the people from the JXD won't hand over the necessary source files, but you never know. I hope the people here can find a way.

skelton · « **Reply #6 on:** September 23, 2012, 05:51:51 pm »

About battery, don't know if It can be changed, honestly. About source code, JXD refused releasing code, so only option is that generalplus release code, but don't know if we'll get it. Anycase, system can be rooted so you can add some things manually and remove what you dislike from system, specially launcher which is too crappy. The good thing is that s602 is quite ok in stock firmware, so a custom rom is not very much needed, since most of the thi gs work good out of the box.

Dan0 · « **Reply #7 on:** September 23, 2012, 11:05:22 pm »

You guys rock, thanks for the feed back. Skelton's view on the stock firmware is great news, and i?m with Tiagao:

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"no ghost or combo issues with the buttons [is] something that's mandatory when you're talking about emulation"

s602 it is!

dude1983 · « **Reply #8 on:** October 11, 2012, 08:11:35 pm »

Well, I'm new to this group and to this device itself. I have been reading up on the 601 and 5110 and I really think I'm going to get the 5110. Just need to know how well the N64 and PSX's emulation is. Does it work well? Also, can you get to the Android Marketplace on it, aka Google Play? I really want to try NetFlix on it. Thanks!

retrodoodoo · « **Reply #9 on:** October 12, 2012, 05:27:59 am »

Both N64 and PSX's emulation can work well on JXD S5110.

You can get to the Android Marketplace. Google Paly.

gotia2003 · « **Reply #10 on:** November 07, 2012, 01:09:40 pm »

Hi everyone.
I'm new here and I'm having a hard time to choose a device to buy (s602, s5110, GCW Zero, Droid X360 or even a possible s5600).
skelton said that there is no combo issue or ghosting on s602, which is my high priority concern. The s5110 on the other hand has some control issues, but I'm thinking if those problems make it unplayable in certain games, like Super Metroid and Megaman X (both SNES), or the s5110 control problems can be desconsidered?
Comments about s602 control make me happy, but battery problems (and some other minor problems) keep me concerned.
Anyway, thanks for the space, sorry for any English problem and congratulations for the forum.

skelton · « **Reply #11 on:** November 07, 2012, 01:18:16 pm »

My suggestion is waiting till new devices come out, like s5600 or s7300. s602 controls are good, but as you say, battery time is quite poor. Controls issue in JXD s5110 are not terrible, but some games are harder to play, like Super metroid as you say (except you map buttons in a different way). Combo issue is bad but not as awful as the combo issue in the Yinlips machines.

bigdavebear · « **Reply #12 on:** November 07, 2012, 04:22:58 pm »

@skelton

Hi sorry to hijack post

I have just got a S601 seems decent (bad build quality on screen but so did my dingoos, i.e screen seems to go funny when touched).

Would it be worth upgrading to a S602? Or should i wait for the new 1.5Ghz Dual Core JXD s5600 or 7600 models?

skelton · « **Reply #13 on:** November 07, 2012, 04:46:10 pm »

Well, the s602 is a better device, but I think it's woth to wait until new devices come out.

gotia2003 · « **Reply #14 on:** November 07, 2012, 05:32:53 pm »

Quote from: skelton on November 07, 2012, 01:18:16 pm

My suggestion is waiting till new devices come out, like s5600 or s7300. s602 controls are good, but as you say, battery time is quite poor. Controls issue in JXD s5110 are not terrible, but some games are harder to play, like Super metroid as you say (except you map buttons in a different way). Combo issue is bad but not as awful as the combo issue in the Yinlips machines.

@skelton

thanks for clarify things. It seems that I'll have to continue eating my nails and wait a little more

chrisjj · « **Reply #15 on:** January 18, 2013, 06:00:37 pm »

Quote from: skelton on September 23, 2012, 11:02:48 am

S602 doesn't allow usb otg.

Could you clarify, Skelton? http://www.amazon.co.uk/Portable-Internet-Resistive-Christmas-Lujex/dp/B00ABW0PSO/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1358531171&sr=1-4 says "?USB2.0 High Speed".

lemmywinks · « **Reply #16 on:** January 18, 2013, 06:05:29 pm »

That just means the connection to the PC for file transfer, not USB OTG.

chrisjj · « **Reply #17 on:** January 18, 2013, 06:16:22 pm »

Ah, I see. Thanks for the explanation.

skelton · « **Reply #18 on:** January 18, 2013, 06:17:46 pm »

Exactly, no USB OTG in s602, nor in s5300. Probably a limitation of the GP33003 SoC.

If you want USB OTG then you have Yinlips G16, g18A, s7100B, s5100, s5110 or the new s7300B. Not sure about other models.

filjordan · « **Reply #19 on:** January 24, 2013, 10:48:37 pm »

Hello guys!
I am new to this forum and this topic as well.
I always wanted to play the videogame I have played as a kid on my smartphone (3gs), but I've always found a lot of limitation.
So I've just discovered this Retrogamer's Paradise and I'm extremely excited about it!
After readin for 3days your forum, I have decide I will be purchasing a S7300 as soon as I can see detailed reviews.
In the meanwhile I was thinking of a start-up console. Maybe a S602...
My concern is: is it possible to install Dosbox (or similar DOS emulators) on JXD devices like S602 or S5110?
Thanks and sorry for the long post...

Author Topic: JXD s602 Vs. JXD s5110 (Vs. YDPG17 maybe?) (Read 14475 times)

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