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Title: JXD S192
Post by: bl@ck_m@ge on September 27, 2015, 01:55:36 pm
(http://www.jxd.hk/wp-content/uploads/S192-specs.jpg)

Some specs:
- 7-inch Retina display with Gorilla Glass 3 (IPS, 1920*1250, 323 ppi)
- NVidia Tegra K1 quad core, 2.0GHz ARM Cortex-A15
- 2GB LPDDR3 RAM
- Flash memory 16GB + Micro SD slot (up to 128GB)
- Bluetooth 4.0
- 13MP rear / 5MP front camera
- 10000 mAh Lithium-ion polymer battery[/list]
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: 153stars on September 27, 2015, 03:25:42 pm
Wow I thought they were out of hand held game systems , looks like a game changer pun intended. Maybe the success of this forum pushed a bit. Hope for a competitive pricing. Looks like nice gaming grips. My next system was probably going to be tablet in ipega clamp grip 9023
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: ­ on September 27, 2015, 04:12:54 pm
As with the early iPEGA/GPD units (I forgot where I saw that design before), it's hideous. It will also be a 12'' device (!!), which is God damn beastly.

But at least JXD is coming back. I wonder what they're planning after this abomination.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: kristianity77 on September 27, 2015, 04:23:03 pm
Finally, one of these devices with a serious amount of firepower!  I'd buy one, price depending.  No point making these devices if the price is sky high as they just wont sell.  If I can grab one for about £150, I'd be seriously tempted.

EDIT:

See the initial price being quote is $299 or nearly £200.  Too much for me.  I'm out!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Girl on September 27, 2015, 05:01:57 pm
Wow I thought they were out of hand held game systems

i thought that too, but maybe JXD meant " we are not doing gaming phones anymore "
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: MOFO on September 27, 2015, 05:26:23 pm
Whoa!
Amazing specs, if it can stream nVidia Grid games I'm sold.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: 153stars on September 27, 2015, 05:38:16 pm
I would rather see the stick where the D-pad is, most D-pad games don't use trigger buttons that part looks like it misses the mark in ergonomics. D-pads feel better right above my first finger & stick a bit higher.  Who cares if it is not laid out symmetrical.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: URSquadOps on September 28, 2015, 01:03:15 am
Holy Sheep......I was thinking that JXD was just trying to be a cheap/budget kind of gaming consoles, but this.....this is crazy as there are literally no competition at all, I have yet to see an Android Console with like 13mp and 5mp front, decent speakers(woot) and dang 10k Battery is fking out of this world(despite its the main reason it's going to be thick and bulky).

The only thing I see lacking is well, 2GB LPDDR3, but I'm not sure, despite it's this bulky, the specs are just wow so far....I hope it was built with care hopefully.

Well, gotta wait till end of my sem to see it out and wait for reviewers who will Definitely getting a look at it. Wish the price point is decent.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: MOFO on September 28, 2015, 04:44:20 am
I hope its not over $200 .It would be out of my price range.
Personally for me I have cut off limit on what I want to spend on this sort of device, just going by the specs alone it might be worth it but if I bought every gaming handheld that came out I'd be broke quick ;)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Melquiades on September 28, 2015, 07:27:16 am
Apparently, it is $300, way too high for a Chinese handheld. Shield portable 2 is around the corner and will have a similar price. Quality-wise, I would expect much more from Nvidia, even though the last two JXD consoles were pretty good in my opinion.

I disagree with the majority of users, I really like the design even though everything comes to how good are the buttons and the dpad/analogs.

But honestly, spec-wise I really don't know what are they thinking with an Android Tegra and this price tag. For Christ sake, put a baytrail, a 1080 screen, release a dual OS console at USD 150 and take my fucking money! I would take TWO! And think most people in this forum would agree with that. It can surely be done and somebody will eventually do it. Why the f**k it is taking so long is beyond me.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: sadgasm on September 28, 2015, 07:21:42 pm
I am glad that JXD uses this specs, this will force the other developpers to do the same. I like the design, it is bulky and not really portable any more, but I prefer using handhelds at home, at family visits and longer travels by train and therefore I prefer grip and feeling over portability.

But I fear that the built quality of the plastic used and the quality of the dpad and analog triggers are not that good like on many of these chinese devices. I hope that they will follow the path of Nvidia not only in specs but also in built quality.

Despite all that I will probably not buy the device. I use my Android Handheld as an emulation handheld for older plattforms and only a few Android games, which all run perfectly with it. Even PSP and Dreamcast are playable (and I do not even play much with these emulators, because the original systems do not have that many interesting games for me) and just for a slightly better performance with these two devices the price is way too much, no matter if JXD S192 or Nvidia Shield Portable 2. I will stick to my Gametab One until Dolphin and/or PS2 emulation is possible on Handhelds.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: MOFO on September 29, 2015, 11:38:37 am
Can't the nVidia K1 handle Dolphin and PS2 emulation?
Sure not all games at full speed yet but I could have sworn I seen some games played on those platforms.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: mobyd on September 30, 2015, 05:27:16 pm
Wow I thought they were out of hand held game systems , looks like a game changer pun intended. Maybe the success of this forum pushed a bit. Hope for a competitive pricing. Looks like nice gaming grips. My next system was probably going to be tablet in ipega clamp grip 9023

My 7300b died a few months ago. bought an 8" tablet and the Ipega 9023. Spent weeks trying to get the Ipega working, finally found my tablet said it was rooted but had to unroot and reroot to get the Ipega to work. It is still iffy sometimes. I find I don't just pick it up and start playing like I did with the 7300 due to the whole setup you need to go thru. I have an Intel Atom tablet on the way, will see if that combined with the Ipega is any better.

I do like the Ipega layout and the battery seems to last a long time. Their support sucks and their software is useless. Was also a pain to get it to work with with my computer.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: logseman on October 04, 2015, 01:29:26 pm
With JXD's dodgy hardware history, I'm not trusting them with €300 devices.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: MOFO on October 05, 2015, 07:10:29 am
If it does cost that much not to many people will be interested considering there are much cheaper options that can almost perform just as good as a K1.
I say almost just because the K1 is a awesome SOC but not $300 awesome.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: SONY on October 05, 2015, 07:21:56 am
X1 SoC would have been better.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: MOFO on October 05, 2015, 09:01:29 am
Yes of course, then it might be worth the $300 ;)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: darklight1138 on October 06, 2015, 09:44:08 am
Did someone in this thread say it would be a 12" design? I saw 7", in reference to the screen size. 12" would be impossible to hold with human hands, unless they mean the size of the device itself, in which case 12" isn't that bad I don't think.

Anyway, glad to see JXD is still in the game. My 7800 is still cruising along nicely.

I don't give a damn how it looks. If you want good, comfortable ergonomics you're gonna have to sacrifice aesthetics. And this thing looks to run like a beast! HD pics and video. Wonder if it'll actually record video well.

I really wish manufacturers would introduce replaceable parts, like joysticks. When the thumbstick wears down -- and it will -- we should be able to swap out that part. Or if someone wants a different style of thumbstick, like a convex or different textured grip, they can order a special type to replace it.

Anyway, I won't be able to afford this unless things in my dismal life change. But I can dream I guess.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: ­ on October 06, 2015, 11:36:08 am
Did someone in this thread say it would be a 12" design? I saw 7", in reference to the screen size. 12" would be impossible to hold with human hands, unless they mean the size of the device itself, in which case 12" isn't that bad I don't think.
I meant the entire size of the device is 12''. This becomes a problem not when comparing it to other tablets, but when comparing it to notebooks - which I consider practical from 11'' and up. No matter how you look at it, even at $300 there are more practical and powerful laptop alternatives, with better emulators, a very large PC game library, and just more versatility in general.
There is simply no advantage to having a device this big and at this price.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: SONY on October 06, 2015, 11:40:05 am
Anyway, I won't be able to afford this unless things in my dismal life change. But I can dream I guess.

C'mon @darklight1138 don't be so down man, life is shit for me too but we still have to keep our heads up!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: oneaboveall on October 06, 2015, 02:02:07 pm

How many monies is this thing ???

 ;D

Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: darklight1138 on October 07, 2015, 03:31:03 am

How many monies is this thing ???

 ;D

Too many monies  ???
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: MOFO on October 07, 2015, 11:40:18 am

How many monies is this thing ???

 ;D

No real price has been set but speculation is it'll be on the higher end of these kind of devices.
Anything over $200 is out of the question for me, not that it might not be worth it but more because  I set limits when buying these kind of devices.
If it had a X1 I might make a exception but I already have a SHIELD tablet with a K1.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: crispy on October 10, 2015, 12:26:53 am
looks nice
but i think ill stick with my nvidia shield tablet
even though its been recalled  for a potentially  faulty battery
least now i have a spare lol
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Patrese-X on October 10, 2015, 10:56:21 am
With JXD's dodgy hardware history, I'm not trusting them with €300 devices.

Yeah, I agree. I like my S7800B, but it does not feel solid at all. I don't mind it for what it cost, but at 300 bucks I'd rather look somewhere else...
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: DieHardMan on October 11, 2015, 12:39:12 pm
My S5800 fell 40 cm from bed onto the pvc floor, right on the volume rocker. The volume control was subsequently broken, so ive opened it to see what happened, both tiny push buttons broke off the board, fantastic quality.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: 153stars on October 12, 2015, 04:59:26 am
I'm hoping for more like 225-250 or I would have to see switches and buttons internally ad feel like a PS3 controllers. Had a broken switch on mine too, but was surprised the case didn't crack as it was dropped on concrete "not by me" When i was inside repairing you could see how cheap these parts were. But I think it was great bang for buck. I got my daughter a v891w tablet 64 gb for 130 us shipped baytrail Z3735F ,Retina Screen with 1920*1200 resolution,support Windows 8.1 and Android OS. thought of trying with ipega controller.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: hellomoto on October 14, 2015, 03:03:21 pm
Price has been lowered to 269.  ship on new year.  getting warmer
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: SONY on October 14, 2015, 08:15:30 pm
Price has been lowered to 269.  ship on new year.  getting warmer
Do you work for JXD?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: hellomoto on October 15, 2015, 12:55:56 am
No, it is right in the OP's link.  when you click on it, it give you the info.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Dickbag0xE3 on October 15, 2015, 02:22:13 am
I'll probably get one. I may do nothing but designate it to living in the bathroom with my 7800b for porn youtube use, but...sounds nice and should be fun to fiddle with.

I like the little quirks about Chinese devices/products, personally.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: AVahne on October 15, 2015, 05:27:55 pm
Whoa, thought they were dead. Glad to see they're back in the game, though even $269 sounds a bit much considering it's JXD....
Also, not liking how the d-pad and face buttons are jutting out of the grips of the device. Looks like it would feel awkward to hold.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Volo on October 17, 2015, 03:08:20 pm
To sum up the hardware expectations: The thing is Nvidia Shield Tablet. Same SOC, same RAM, same resolution (albeit smaller screen and larger ppi). I guess you shall be able to spoof it to be recognised as Shield Tablet for software compatibility.

I am not sure of the controls. Playstation layout causes finger-ache. I much prefer WiiU layout of the original s7800.

Kinda makes you wish for s7800 replacement (tablet with small gamepad, not large gamepad with a screen)... WITH SEGA's SIX BUTTON LAYOUT!!!

I mean this thing is genius:
(http://www.gpd.hk/UploadFiles/pic/2014_6_23_30773_21296.jpg)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: MOFO on October 17, 2015, 03:20:44 pm
The price is much better than I thought it would be, still on the high side but considering the hardware not too bad.
Will wait for a review before actually thinking of buying but so far it looks great.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Joe Sixpack on October 17, 2015, 08:46:55 pm
Good to see JXD is not out of the business.. that's the last I heard.

However I don't care much for the design, specs look nice, price is high and given my exp with the 7800 I would not buy this any where near 300.

I think the analogs should be swapped.. should be on top not bottom, before I got my 7800 I thought the analogs should be on bottom but after I received mine I realized they had it right all along and the dpad / buttons should be on bottom.

style wise I really think the 7800 has great ergonomics and design.. and if I had a ton of money sitting around would probably rip off their moldings and shove some modern hardware in the 78's shell with better quality materials.

my grips with the 78 all stem from poor build quality.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Yasaburou on October 22, 2015, 02:29:05 am
Good to see JXD is not out of the business.. that's the last I heard.

However I don't care much for the design, specs look nice, price is high and given my exp with the 7800 I would not buy this any where near 300.

JXD have mostly been rebranding third party devices and putting out products besides gaming tablets for a while - new phones, a smart watch, and another cheap kids' portable gaming system came out lately. How much of those are actually theirs is another question.

I don't know where people are getting the info that it's $300, it's $269 (presumably usd) and since JXD has usually done free international shipping it's probably the case here too.

My stance is that if I decide to sell my Vita and/or S7800B I'll grab it, but otherwise it's a bit out of my price range for a while. I feel like selling my Vita would be a bit of a bad move because I'd miss out on new releases but the games are so damn expensive on that system.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: SONY on October 22, 2015, 08:05:06 am
@$269, it's still too much.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Yasaburou on October 22, 2015, 11:41:42 am
@$269, it's still too much.

(https://jii.moe/E1Ekhj-Ze.png)

I think it's not too far-fetched, looking at what the competitors are putting out this 'generation'. I can't imagine the Shield Portable 2 being cheaper than the S192. XD seems to give better value for money, but I feel like 270 is reasonable for the top model.

I'm not really confident about the CPU values I put in this spreadsheet so if anyone that knows what they're talking about has corrections please let me know.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Joe Sixpack on October 22, 2015, 01:46:41 pm
Can't speak for anyone else but when I say it's to high, I don't mean it's to high for the spec.. I mean it's to high for a JXD product.

They have a track record of lousy firmwares and spotty QC.
I can't speak for the rest of the world but Im in the US and sending back a bad unit is kinda expensive.

It's not that the Chinese can't make a decent product, it's that they often dont' try.
I mean foxconn makes Iphones for Apple, but then again they're not trying to cut corners at every turn.

Also there is the consideration as to what it actually gets you? surely you could play more demanding android games, as the 78's mali is long in the tooth.

but these handhelds bread and butter is emulation.. and what will it get you for that price tag?
smoother psp emulation.. ok that's nice.. what else? probably not gonna run Saturn, and what else is there?
Dreamcast I guess but the last time I tried that it ran remarkably well (maybe not 100% on every game, but pretty well)
Is there a android gamecube or ps2 emulator? and if so would this new unit beable to run it well enough to play? Dunno about the first part of that question but the 2nd part I doubt.



If JXD more US sellers, or just better QC I'd be more likely to consider a 250-300 dollar unit.. although that's kinda pushing what I'd pay for a tablet/handheld in the first place regardless.

I mean 1 drop and it's potentially toast. lot of money to be carrying around in a fragile electronic device.
Same philosophy on phones, about 100 bucks is my limit, dont care who's names on it..

Although I will say the samsung's are built pretty damn good, I recently found a S3 in the middle of the road that obviously had been ran over at least once, screen was smashed but it was still alive, kept getting calls and text messages I couldn't answer.

Uh anyway All that having been said I still prefer the design of the 78, this s192 looks like it would be better for just gaming, kinda like a shield, but I like the 78 because it also works pretty well as a tablet which is good when you're traveling.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Chris23235 on October 26, 2015, 03:00:09 pm
Is there a android gamecube or ps2 emulator? and if so would this new unit beable to run it well enough to play? Dunno about the first part of that question but the 2nd part I doubt.

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Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Joe Sixpack on October 26, 2015, 03:52:16 pm
Well based on the video's seems like the s192 might do ok for dolphin.. thats nice, real mile stone for me will be ps2 but I still think I'll pass.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: 153stars on October 26, 2015, 05:29:36 pm
Banggood is pre listing at $330us I might go 235 thats about it
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on October 27, 2015, 07:36:52 am
Ill be getting one for definite loved the S7800 and think the new machine just has that bit more power, will sell the s7800 to recoup some cash.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on October 28, 2015, 06:49:24 am
£220 from funstock if your UK based.

http://www.funstockretro.co.uk/gpd-xd-retro-gaming-gamepad
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: lemmywinks on October 28, 2015, 10:58:34 am
Is there a android gamecube or ps2 emulator? and if so would this new unit beable to run it well enough to play? Dunno about the first part of that question but the 2nd part I doubt.

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Those are on the Shield TV which has the Tegra X1, the JXD S192 has the Tegra K1 which doesn't run it half as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4acd5b-0e8

Not too bad but lots of frameskipping and no audio (because it will be garbled).
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Chris23235 on November 02, 2015, 05:33:35 pm
Is there a android gamecube or ps2 emulator? and if so would this new unit beable to run it well enough to play? Dunno about the first part of that question but the 2nd part I doubt.

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Those are on the Shield TV which has the Tegra X1, the JXD S192 has the Tegra K1 which doesn't run it half as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4acd5b-0e8

Not too bad but lots of frameskipping and no audio (because it will be garbled).

Ah, ok, of course you are right. Didn't looked properly. Would be interesting to see what exactly makes the difference, the better GPU or the 8 cores. I would assume it's the GPU, because on Windows Dolphin benefits from more cores, but not as much as here.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: varan77 on November 02, 2015, 05:42:23 pm
It took 3 year for android game consoles to get to the point, where GPD XD is.
Its, I dare to say, stable point for quad core with mali gpu.

On the other hand, Tegra K1, is whole new level, and need better quality of build, check the Xiaomi mi pad.

So, I am not excited when i see JXD S192.

I see overheating and battery drain problems.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: RZ_29 on November 03, 2015, 11:17:53 am
Hey people!

Its has just been confirmed that the JXD S192 will have Android 5.0.

I'm excited for this. Unless Nvidia puts out a new Shield Portable or Shield Tablet.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on November 03, 2015, 11:22:42 am
Do you know if you can do the int/ ext mem swap on android 5.0??
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on November 03, 2015, 12:49:27 pm
Was from my post on their Facebook page, took them over a week to respond.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on November 13, 2015, 07:29:59 am
http://www.funstockretro.co.uk/jxd-nvidia-s192-android-retro-gaming-tablet
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: RoyalT17 on November 16, 2015, 04:32:21 pm
I have been trying to decide on my Next Handheld Device and I keep running into one problem... MEMORY. I think it is called Shared Memory. I had a few GPD Devices (Q9 and G5A) and there is a 4gb internal partition and a XXgb Nand Partition. When I install games some go directly to the smaller internal memory. Even with FolderMount or GL to SD I still can't move these files. so I am stuck with an empty Larger memory and no way to use it because my memory is always full.

Do we know if JXD S192 will have this shared memory, or one single 16gb internal memory?

Also any help finding a device that doesn't have Shared Memory?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on November 16, 2015, 06:30:54 pm
Yes that is also my concern as well, i had the JXD S7800B and the internal/ External memory swapout was a godsend, put a 128gb card in and story whatever the hell you want on it and install any games.

As it has Android 5.0 Lollipop on the S192 i don't think it can be done (at least 5.0 on phones cant be done) however somone may be able to hack Marshmallow onto it which i do believe brings the old mem swap trick back into play.

You can always store your "roms" on the SD card no matter where you install the emulator (if thats your thing)

Best bet is to research xda developers on ask around on here about that kind of thing.
 
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: RoyalT17 on November 16, 2015, 08:25:51 pm
The problem is not with the roms. I get a TON of games from humblebundle, plus the ones i get from google play. It just seems that most of the games i get will not install anywhere but some hidden drive/partition. If I could find where they are I could possibly move them. If the app is 50 megs or less they cannot be moved. My only option has been to use my phone for my android games and get a handheld for emulation. I just want "One Rig to RULE THEM ALL!"
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on November 16, 2015, 08:34:52 pm
Finding out where they install is easy, install a good file manager such as es file explorer and find them.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: RZ_29 on November 17, 2015, 10:15:24 am
Hey People!

More news.

By popular demand, JXD will remove the rear camera of the S192.

Instead of the camera, they will increase the flash memory to 32gb.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on November 17, 2015, 10:21:58 am
Where did you get that info from? Are the devices not finished.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: RZ_29 on November 17, 2015, 10:29:07 am
JXD told me via Facebook. And it can be confirmed here: http://www.jxd.hk/game-console/s192/s192-specs/

There is no more rear camera, and the flash memory is now 32gb.

I assume that they almost have a finished product, and they are taking into account what the clients tell them.

They also mentioned that because they are trying to adjust the JXD s192, there will probably be a 1 month delay for the S192 to hit the market.

Thats all I know.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on November 17, 2015, 10:31:53 am
A delay! I almost pre-ordered as well. Glad I didn't.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: RZ_29 on November 17, 2015, 10:34:35 am
Nevertheless, I think it was a good decision that they made.

13mp rear camera vs 32gb flash memory. I think that it is obsviously a better choice to have the memory.

I think that I will pre-order it. They are cleary taking the right steps
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on November 17, 2015, 10:36:46 am
Their Facebook page doesn't show this news. I hope they also skip lollipop too so we can do int/ext mem swap trick.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on November 17, 2015, 10:38:05 am
My s7800 is 128gb. If memswap is working memory size if device does not matter.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on November 18, 2015, 01:44:56 am
Did someone in this thread say it would be a 12" design? I saw 7", in reference to the screen size. 12" would be impossible to hold with human hands, unless they mean the size of the device itself, in which case 12" isn't that bad I don't think.
I meant the entire size of the device is 12''. This becomes a problem not when comparing it to other tablets, but when comparing it to notebooks - which I consider practical from 11'' and up. No matter how you look at it, even at $300 there are more practical and powerful laptop alternatives, with better emulators, a very large PC game library, and just more versatility in general.
There is simply no advantage to having a device this big and at this price.

Lol...  I picked up the Surface Book (i7, 16GB, gGPU in base).  First thing I did was check and see if the tablet part would fit in the  iPega 9023.  ;-)

I preordered the JXD S192.  I really loved the build on my S7800B, and while there are some things about the GPD XD that I really like, I still mostly use my Shield Tablet and iPega 9023 controller.  Since the JXD S192 should support Nvidia Gamestream, and all the new ported games that Nvidia helped port (HL2), I am pretty excited for this.

When my Shield Tablet was recalled, I got a replacement that keeps screwing up; it locks up, reboots, and then has waves all over the screen.  I've discussed it with Nvidia, but they are slow to replace.  I was waiting for the Shield Tablet 2, but they just renamed it to Shield Tablet K1 and removed some accessories.  So, maybe that means there will be a Shield Tablet X1 in a few months, and this will get me by until then.



Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on November 18, 2015, 01:48:27 am
Their Facebook page doesn't show this news. I hope they also skip lollipop too so we can do int/ext mem swap trick.

I think he meant that it shows here, and that they messaged him over Facebook: http://www.jxd.hk/game-console/s192/s192-specs/

While it still shows in the pics, the specs have been changed.  It is 32GB, and no longer lists a rear camera.  I'm okay with that decision actually.  I don't really know when I've used the rear camera on my tablets.  I am sure there will be some people upset, but the gaming tablets usually have a very poor camera anyway.

Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: RZ_29 on November 18, 2015, 10:25:43 am
Their Facebook page doesn't show this news. I hope they also skip lollipop too so we can do int/ext mem swap trick.

I think he meant that it shows here, and that they messaged him over Facebook: http://www.jxd.hk/game-console/s192/s192-specs/

While it still shows in the pics, the specs have been changed.  It is 32GB, and no longer lists a rear camera.  I'm okay with that decision actually.  I don't really know when I've used the rear camera on my tablets.  I am sure there will be some people upset, but the gaming tablets usually have a very poor camera anyway.


http://media.giphy.com/media/1Z02vuppxP1Pa/giphy.gif
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on November 18, 2015, 10:36:52 am
LordDavon s7800 supports Nvidia game stream. I've used it on mine. You need to download an app onto your s7800. I think it's called Moonlight. Will check and confirm if its different.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on November 18, 2015, 11:20:11 am
Ok so it used to be called Limelight but is now called Moonlight.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on November 18, 2015, 06:36:09 pm
Ok so it used to be called Limelight but is now called Moonlight.

I've used it.  I have it on my GPD XD.  It works pretty well, but it isn't as good as the native client. 
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on November 18, 2015, 06:37:08 pm
http://media.giphy.com/media/1Z02vuppxP1Pa/giphy.gif

That gif just made me choke on my soda.  HA!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on November 18, 2015, 06:37:42 pm
Ahh I haven't used their own client.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Joe Sixpack on November 19, 2015, 06:32:07 am
frankly at the price this things expected at shouldn't have to trade off the rear camera.
although it's good to see they're open to suggestion.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: lexluthermiester on November 22, 2015, 07:00:34 pm
My S5800 fell 40 cm from bed onto the pvc floor, right on the volume rocker. The volume control was subsequently broken, so ive opened it to see what happened, both tiny push buttons broke off the board, fantastic quality.

You do the same to ANY other phone and you get the same result. So you're not making a great point. I also have an S5800 and have dropped it a few times, still works perfectly.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: lexluthermiester on November 22, 2015, 07:10:32 pm
No matter how you look at it, even at $300 there are more practical and powerful laptop alternatives, with better emulators, a very large PC game library, and just more versatility in general.

Name ONE.

There is simply no advantage to having a device this big and at this price.

Your opinion. If you don't like it, don't buy, but quit trying to make points that simply don't matter to the rest of us who do like the concept of this device. And lets see you find anything with comparable specs with built in controls. Not even Nvidia has done it.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: lexluthermiester on November 22, 2015, 07:23:23 pm
Hey People!

More news.

By popular demand, JXD will remove the rear camera of the S192.

Instead of the camera, they will increase the flash memory to 32gb.

Totally disagree. A 64GB or 128GB UHS1 microSD solves the storage problem. I'd prefer they put a flash on the rear camera.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on November 22, 2015, 07:44:55 pm
I dunno, would you really use that big device to take photos? Personally I use my phone it takes great pictures.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: ­ on November 22, 2015, 07:45:24 pm
No matter how you look at it, even at $300 there are more practical and powerful laptop alternatives, with better emulators, a very large PC game library, and just more versatility in general.

Name ONE.
OH NO YOU REALLY PUT ME ON THE SPOT THERE.
From skimming Amazon, my pick for a compact laptop\tablet at that price point is this: http://www.amazon.com/Dell-Convertible-Touchscreen-Processor-Refurbished/dp/B00T3BM1TA/
But you have a whole list here: https://laptopninja.io/finding-the-best-laptops-under-300-dollars/

If you're going for more PC gaming, you might want to invest in a laptop that has a decent graphics card. Also, BT controllers will set you back the astounding price of $20.

Anyway, it is in laptop price and size territory, so it deserves to be judged against laptops. It fails miserably.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: lexluthermiester on November 22, 2015, 08:43:36 pm
The S192 seems like the right bang for buck balance. Getting some hands on will be very informative and will answer a lot questions.

The underclocking thing may prove less an issue with this device than with Rockchip/Mali based devices with similar underclocking[both JXD and GPD are guilty of that sin].

16GB of storage can seem skimpy by itself, but most people install a microSD of decent size to compensate. Even 8GB can be enough with a 32GB or 64GB SD.

The shape looks very ergonomic and comfortable, while it doesn't look to cumbersome. Button and controls placement seems very well thought out.
http://www.jxd.hk/game-console/s192/s192-pictures/

Looking forward to owning one.

Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on November 22, 2015, 08:49:39 pm
Really hope someone hacks marshmallow on it.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: lexluthermiester on November 22, 2015, 08:52:03 pm
No matter how you look at it, even at $300 there are more practical and powerful laptop alternatives, with better emulators, a very large PC game library, and just more versatility in general.

Name ONE.
OH NO YOU REALLY PUT ME ON THE SPOT THERE.
From skimming Amazon, my pick for a compact laptop\tablet at that price point is this: http://www.amazon.com/Dell-Convertible-Touchscreen-Processor-Refurbished/dp/B00T3BM1TA/
But you have a whole list here: https://laptopninja.io/finding-the-best-laptops-under-300-dollars/

If you're going for more PC gaming, you might want to invest in a laptop that has a decent graphics card. Also, BT controllers will set you back the astounding price of $20.

Anyway, it is in laptop price and size territory, so it deserves to be judged against laptops. It fails miserably.

That's like comparing a Ram Truck to a Ferrari. The S192 is gaming focused Android device with built in controls and you're comparing it to laptop PC's. They're not even in the same purpose group. AT ALL. Try again, and this time compare Oranges to Oranges... So again, name ONE.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: lexluthermiester on November 22, 2015, 08:53:41 pm
Really hope someone hacks marshmallow on it.

Agreed, But KitKat wouldn't be bad either. Not a fan of Lollipop's problems.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on November 22, 2015, 08:55:56 pm
I've pre ordered mine but already its been delayed 4 weeks, KitKat is fine you can int/ext swap easily lollipop to can't but I believe marshmallow the function is back again, I have 128gb card in my S7800 would be nice to just drop straight in with only slight changes to the filesystem on the card.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: ­ on November 22, 2015, 09:00:42 pm
Really? Do you want it to include all of the Android shovelware games, or otherwise you won't call it quits?
Fine, then. Just go to the bottom of the notebook list for the Chromebook section.

You're grasping at straws. Android has nothing on PC software-wise: Gaming side of things, it's got literally decades of games and more emulators. Software side of things, I can just name Microsoft Office and be done with it, and that's just scratching the surface. Third party support - you can actually add more functionality to both the OS and the hardware, if you wish.
When you upscale an Android device to be as large as a notebook and at the same price, you lose by default.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: lexluthermiester on November 22, 2015, 09:00:59 pm
I dunno, would you really use that big device to take photos? Personally I use my phone it takes great pictures.

I have a Pipo P9 that I use for photos and video's all the time, but it's difficult to hold sometimes. And with the good hand grips that the S192 seems to have, it would actually make a great camera.  Just a thought...
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: lexluthermiester on November 22, 2015, 09:19:57 pm
Really? Do you want it to include all of the Android shovelware games, or otherwise you won't call it quits?

And what about all the shovelware for PC? Hmm? Shall we include that too?

You're grasping at straws. Android has nothing on PC software-wise: Gaming side of things, it's got literally decades of games and more emulators.

Grasping at straws? Irony much? And you're right about PC's having lots of games and emulators. But so does Android. Devices like the S192 are FAR more portable and by design. PC's, even ultra books, aren't nearly as easily played on the go. I would know, I have dozens of different devices, Android and PC alike.

Software side of things, I can just name Microsoft Office and be done with it, and that's just scratching the surface. Third party support - you can actually add more functionality to both the OS and the hardware, if you wish.
When you upscale an Android device to be as large as a notebook and at the same price, you lose by default.

Really with the Office thing? You have VERY clearly missed the point of this type device.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: lexluthermiester on November 22, 2015, 09:24:44 pm
I've pre ordered mine but already its been delayed 4 weeks, KitKat is fine you can int/ext swap easily lollipop to can't but I believe marshmallow the function is back again, I have 128gb card in my S7800 would be nice to just drop straight in with only slight changes to the filesystem on the card.

I think you're right with the SD swap being back in MM. And that would be cool.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: kristianity77 on November 22, 2015, 11:58:35 pm
Made In China - I dont get why you are on these boards.  You always seem to be pushing PC down everyones throat (you've done it in a couple of my posts before).  These are android devices, specifically for playing emulated consoles from years gone by.  No one cares if a laptop does it better and for the same price and that the laptop does more things.  Its two totally different products.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on November 23, 2015, 05:37:55 am
No matter how you look at it, even at $300 there are more practical and powerful laptop alternatives, with better emulators, a very large PC game library, and just more versatility in general.

Name ONE.
OH NO YOU REALLY PUT ME ON THE SPOT THERE.
From skimming Amazon, my pick for a compact laptop\tablet at that price point is this: http://www.amazon.com/Dell-Convertible-Touchscreen-Processor-Refurbished/dp/B00T3BM1TA/
But you have a whole list here: https://laptopninja.io/finding-the-best-laptops-under-300-dollars/

If you're going for more PC gaming, you might want to invest in a laptop that has a decent graphics card. Also, BT controllers will set you back the astounding price of $20.

Anyway, it is in laptop price and size territory, so it deserves to be judged against laptops. It fails miserably.

I'm not really wanting to argue with you, as I understand your point.  You use the term "Practical", which definition changes per the person who uses it.  For someone like me, I already have laptops (Lenovo Y70 Touch, Surface Book), and other tablets (iPad Air 2, Nvidia Shield Tablet, Surface Pro 3, Chuwi Hi8, GPD XD), so my use would obviously be different than yours.  I want something I can play games on while laying in bed.  My wife is pregnant, and is often laying in bed these days.  I lay next to her, just to try and spend as much time as I can.  Laptops need you to be sitting up, so I can't use while cuddling.  As well, they are often cumbersome and awkward, and rely on external controllers.

While your Dell example is a nice little laptop, it is over 3 pounds, has a slow hard drive, and an 11" 1366x768 screen.  The JXD S192 doesn't have a listed weight, but I doubt it is even close to half the weight.  As well, it has a 1920x1200 7" screen, 32GB SSD, and built in controller.

My biggest issue with your example (and many of the examples given) are the Celeron processors.  The Celeron N2830 in the example is a decent processor for simple tasks.  Notebook Check says this about it, "Thanks to the improved performance per clock, the Celeron N2830 is faster than previous Intel Atoms, e.g. the N2850. Therefore, the N2830 even competes with older dual core CPUs like the Core 2 Duo SU9400. For simple everyday tasks such as Internet or Office the performance is adequate, but not for complex software or modern games."  For the GPU in the processor, Notebook Check says this, "The graphics unit of Bay Trail is based on the Intel Gen7 architecture, which supports DirectX 11 and is also found in the Ivy Bridge series (e.g. HD Graphics 4000). With only 4 EUs (Execution Units) and a relatively low clock speed of up to 750 MHz, the GPU is even slower than the HD Graphics (Ivy Bridge). Therefore, only older and less demanding games will run fluently."

What I like about the JXD S192 is the Kepler based GPU.  I have one in my Nvidia Shield Tablet, and the device is a screamer, even with gaming.  Notebook Check doesn't say much about the CPU portion, but does say this about the GPU, "In the 8-inch Nvidia Shield Tablet, Tegra K1 renders 66 fps in the GFXBench 2.7 T-Rex offscreen test. Compared to the competition, Nvidia's SoC is clearly faster than the Qualcomm Adreno 420 (max. 40 fps, Snapdragon 805), PowerVR GX6450 (max. 44 fps, Apple A8) and Mali-T628 MP6 (max. 31 fps, Exynos 5430). Except for the even (slightly) more powerful PowerVR GXA6850 (max. 70 fps, Apple A8X), Tegra K1 has one of the fastest mobile GPUs in late 2014. Even the most demanding games and high resolution displays are handled without any problems".

Now, I understand that we are talking about different environments; Windows vs. Android.  But, there are some common benchmarks between the two.

Celeron N2830 - Octane V2 - Total Score
min: 4542     avg: 6714.7 (15%)     median: 7211 (16%)     max: 7397 Points

Nvidia Tegra K1 (Denver) - Vellamo 3.x - Browser
min: 6263     avg: 6263 (100%)     median: 6263 (100%)     max: 6263 Points

Celeron N2830 - Mozilla Kraken 1.1 - Total Score
min: 4141.2     avg: 4943.9 (1%)     median: 4482 (1%)     max: 6995.9 ms

Nvidia Tegra K1 (Denver) - Mozilla Kraken 1.1 - Total Score
min: 4030.5     avg: 4030.5 (1%)     median: 4030.5 (1%)     max: 4030.5 ms

Celeron N2830 - Geekbench 3 - 32 Bit Multi-Core Score
min: 1557     avg: 1568.8 (10%)     median: 1565 (10%)     max: 1589 Points

Nvidia Tegra K1 (Denver) - Geekbench 3 - 32 Bit Multi-Core Score
min: 2892     avg: 3029 (19%)     median: 3029 (19%)     max: 3166 Points

Celeron N2830 - Geekbench 3 - 32 Bit Single-Core Score
min: 891     avg: 908.4 (19%)     median: 909 (20%)     max: 928 Points

Nvidia Tegra K1 (Denver) - Geekbench 3 - 32 Bit Single-Core Score
min: 1719     avg: 1811 (39%)     median: 1811 (39%)     max: 1903 Points

3DMark (2013) - Ice Storm Unlimited Physics 1280x720 offscreen:

Intel Celeron Benchmarks:
G50-30   HD Graphics (Bay Trail)                          2048 MB      10142
S20-30   HD Graphics (Bay Trail)                          2048 MB      10564
X200MA    HD Graphics (Bay Trail)                          2048 MB           10577
X551MAV  HD Graphics (Bay Trail)                          4096 MB      10610
Inspiron15HD Graphics (Bay Trail)                          4096 MB           10973
Easynote  HD Graphics (Bay Trail)                          2048 MB           11132
250 G3   HD Graphics (Bay Trail)                          2048 MB           11180

Nvidia K1 Benchmarks:
Nexus 9   GeForce ULP K1 (Tegra K1 Kepler GPU)     2048 MB         12420
Lenovo ThinkVision 28                                              2048 MB         24927
Xiaomi MiPad eurogamer.net                                  2048 MB         35567
Nexus 9   K1 (Denver)                                          2048 MB         39070
Shield Tablet P1761W                                          2048 MB         39590

Again, I don't want to argue with you.  What I am doing is explaining why the S192 is practical for me, and I see many others here with the same wants as I have.  No, this device is not for everyone.  But, while some are trying to say that it isn't right for anyone, I am disagreeing.  It is right for some of us.  That's why I've already spent the money preordering one.

OOPS: I just noticed that I used most of the benchmarks from the slower dual core version, and noticed that the S192 has the quad core.  I'm too tired to update them. :-)  You can see the higher benchmarks here: http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-Tegra-K1-SoC.108310.0.html
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Joe Sixpack on November 23, 2015, 05:42:32 am
I dunno, would you really use that big device to take photos? Personally I use my phone it takes great pictures.

Wouldn't be my first choice, but then again if I had a kick ass camera.. sure... but even if they left the camera Im betting it would be far from "kick ass"

with that said I always like to have options and if I found my self with just that.. then ya I would take picture/video rather then nothing at all.. and I actually have been in that situation at least once with my jxd7800.

But then again maybe Im just a bit sour that they're going for more of a controller + screen design.
It's one of the things I disliked about the nvidia shield.

I personally like the design of the 7800 because it works pretty well as a tablet also.

With that said the more controller like design of the s192.. I guess there is'nt anything wrong with ditching the rear camera, it's clearly going for maximum gaming and moving away from split use design.
I however do think with the price tag expected users should hardly be having to sacrifice the rear camera just to bump it up to a lousy 32gb storage.

Im glad to see that they're willing to make these changes for a more focused device I just think the sacrifice is unwarranted at this price range.

However having said all that and in light of the increased gaming focus of the device I see no real reason to keep the front camera either and wonder what else we can get in exchange for it.. as the only thing the (usually lower res) front camera will be good for is skype and selfies and neither of those really fit in with the primary intent.

I know that's a bit winding and somewhat hard to follow, did any of that make sense?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on November 23, 2015, 05:52:14 am
With that said the more controller like design of the s192.. I guess there is'nt anything wrong with ditching the rear camera, it's clearly going for maximum gaming and moving away from split use design.
I however do think with the price tag expected users should hardly be having to sacrifice the rear camera just to bump it up to a lousy 32gb storage.

You know, when this was first released, the Nvidia Shield Tablet was $299 + controller for another $50.  So, the price did make more sense.  Now that the Shield Tablet has dropped to $199, the price does seem a bit high.  Sure, you get a 10,000mAh battery and 32GB RAM, but still a bit high.  I'm okay with it, since there is little competition though.  I've been waiting for a great processor to be put in a gaming tablet like this.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Joe Sixpack on November 23, 2015, 06:09:14 am
Oh Im glad to see they're using a more powerful SoC.

when the 7800 came out the spec was sorta ho-hum.. I mean the mali in the rk3188 was kinda long in the tooth for native 3d games.. for emulation really didn't matter much.

There will be some games that can take advantage of the more powerful hardware, though most games wont.. as they're generally built for middle of the road.. I mean you still see some app's being put out with support back to android 2.3.. why cause there's still a lot of device that out there running it.

that does not apply much to the more agressive 3D games however.. but even so are usually made with middle of the road hardware requirements in mind.

point being while the powerful hardware should ensure a long road of smooth gameplay Im sitting this cycle out because as powerful as the hardware is it doesn't offer much over what I have.
Emulation will be more concerned over the CPU then the GPU, and the s192 won't emulate SNES or PS1 any better then JXD's last offering.

Only area I can really thing of it improving on is PSP, and dreamcast although I must say reicast works shockingly well as-is.

It won't bring us PS2 emulation which for me personally is the next step.

So im gonna hang on to what I have, skip this cycle, in say 2 years when they have a new deivce maybe i'll like the design better, maybe the ps2 emulator will be mature enough and maybe the hardware powerful enough to get it off the ground on android.

to put it in other words I see the s192 as the vista between XP and 7
I actually hope it's wildly successful because I do like that these types of devices are being made
and I really would like to see JXD turn over a new leaf and come out with a awesome from the start solid device.
I just don't think it's gonna bring anything really new.
But then again android games are getting more complex, more power hungry so maybe Im wrong and the s192 will see great performance not as a emulation device but for native android games.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on November 23, 2015, 06:24:39 am
to put it in other words I see the s192 as the vista between XP and 7
LOL!  That made me almost wake the wife.

I hear ya.  I really love my Shield Tablet.  It really is very powerful.  It's amazing how well everything just runs.  With all of my older devices, my Nexus 7 2013 included, there have been issues with performance.  There aren't any issues with the Shield though.  So, my hope is that this isn't the Vista, but the Windows 7.

I use my Shield Tablet with the iPega 9023 all the time.  It really makes the perfect gaming tablet.  I play a lot of Android games, and they all run great.  I just hate having to pair the controller, and them make sure everything is working correctly.  It fails at times.  Then, if I put it down to go do something, the controller sleeps and I have to start all over.  So, having the controller built in should really help.  I am also hoping that many of the Shield ROMs can get ported over to the JXD.  They have their own mapping software, and it is pretty good.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: lexluthermiester on November 23, 2015, 03:11:30 pm
Oh Im glad to see they're using a more powerful SoC.

when the 7800 came out the spec was sorta ho-hum.. I mean the mali in the rk3188 was kinda long in the tooth for native 3d games.. for emulation really didn't matter much.

I would disagree. At the time they designed the S7800B the RK3188 was still a decent SOC.

point being while the powerful hardware should ensure a long road of smooth gameplay Im sitting this cycle out because as powerful as the hardware is it doesn't offer much over what I have.

That must mean you have the Shield or something else based on newer chipsets. The Nvidia's only real competition are SOC's based on the newest SnapDragon and the like, which are in the $600 to $700 range.

Emulation will be more concerned over the CPU then the GPU, and the s192 won't emulate SNES or PS1 any better then JXD's last offering.

Only area I can really thing of it improving on is PSP, and dreamcast although I must say reicast works shockingly well as-is.

PS1? Sure, Dreamcast, PSP and DS emu's will see a marked improvement and by themselves are worth considering the purchase. But such reasons are far from the only reasons...

It won't bring us PS2 emulation which for me personally is the next step.

So im gonna hang on to what I have, skip this cycle, in say 2 years when they have a new deivce maybe i'll like the design better, maybe the ps2 emulator will be mature enough and maybe the hardware powerful enough to get it off the ground on android.

That is really more personal preference, and a one that does not take into consideration all of the factors of a device like this. The entire upper end library of premium titles on Google Play and Nvidia's store. Perfect 1080 playback for HD video on the built in screen and 4k playback through the HDMI at full 60hz. There are no devices like this on the market right now, even from Nvidia. JXD is taking advantage of this and wants to improve it's name and market share with this. I love my Q9PSV, but the S192 is going to clean it's clock.

to put it in other words I see the s192 as the vista between XP and 7

Really? LOL! That is a heck of a point of view. Seems a bit wonky to me...

I actually hope it's wildly successful because I do like that these types of devices are being made
and I really would like to see JXD turn over a new leaf and come out with a awesome from the start solid device.

I still don't understand some people views on JXD's and GPD's build quality. I have only ever had an issue with build quality on one device like these and it was the Archos Gamepad1. It had a bad battery, which they swiftly replaced. I've never had any problems with any of my JXD or GPD devices, and I have dropped my S5800 more than a few times and it's held up better than some of my Samsung phones. So either some people are REALLY picky or there have been a few instances of defective unit getting to people, which happens with everything, even Nintendo systems.

But then again android games are getting more complex, more power hungry so maybe Im wrong and the s192 will see great performance not as a emulation device but for native android games.

And that is exactly why I personally want one. The first Nvidia Shield[clamshell] performed well, but the screen was just too small for it's cumbersome shape and price range. The Shield tab needs an external controller, which is even less portable and defeats the whole purpose of the device altogether. The S192 fits into that "just right" format slot with great specs, decent size, comfortable ergonomics and decent price.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: ­ on November 23, 2015, 07:46:11 pm
OK, so now that everyone's ganged up on me (except LordDavon, you had some good arguments), let me set things straight.

The only time other than this that I've said PC is the superior option was the Snail OBox, which is essentially a small tower packing the Tegra K1 (or X1, can't remember). This is essentially an oversized and overpriced Chromebook.

On to lex, yes, Office is a valid argument because it stands for versatility in the PC that you can't get with Android. I could literally take any other example. And I didn't mean that PC didn't have shovelware, I was just saying that similar gaming options on Android can be gotten on a PC, if only for its sheer longevity and community support. Any way you look at it, emulators on PC operate better - a prime example is the N64.

Even if you insist on going with ARM processors, even if you can get better results with x86 CPUs + a low end graphics card (which I could find on Amazon, but opted for a better CPU and a smaller screen, for the comparison*), you can go with Chromebooks, some of which feature the titular Tegra K1:
https://laptopninja.io/laptops/hp-14-x013dx-chromebook-14-inch/
https://laptopninja.io/laptops/acer-chromebook-13-cb5-311-t9b0/
https://laptopninja.io/laptops/toshiba-chromebook-13/
As I'm not trying to market PC to you, I'm just getting prime examples from the same website I've already looked up. I think it makes its point well enough.

Now, LordDavon, yes. The CPU is complete shit in PC terms, I cannot deny that. However, it is comparable to the Tegra K1, and that's the kicker - because even if you'll go slightly beyond it and get an i3 laptop, you'll have everything that the S192 can provide and more. I also don't think you'll be comfortable holding an 11.6 screen plus a big battery for a long amount of time, as people here are assuming it'll weigh like a normal tablet, while it pushes the upper bounds of both screen size and battery in that category. We'll just have to agree to disagree about that, because I can't substantiate my claims.

Appendix *: If you're not going for the comparison, http://www.amazon.com/Dell-i3541-2001BLK-15-6-Inch-Quad-Core-Processor/dp/B00IB04M5K/
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on November 23, 2015, 11:47:51 pm
OK, so now that everyone's ganged up on me (except LordDavon, you had some good arguments), let me set things straight.
I respect everyone's opinion, and just try and give my own.  One person's junk is another one's treasure.  ;-)

Now, LordDavon, yes. The CPU is complete shit in PC terms, I cannot deny that. However, it is comparable to the Tegra K1, and that's the kicker - because even if you'll go slightly beyond it and get an i3 laptop, you'll have everything that the S192 can provide and more. I also don't think you'll be comfortable holding an 11.6 screen plus a big battery for a long amount of time, as people here are assuming it'll weigh like a normal tablet, while it pushes the upper bounds of both screen size and battery in that category. We'll just have to agree to disagree about that, because I can't substantiate my claims.

Appendix *: If you're not going for the comparison, http://www.amazon.com/Dell-i3541-2001BLK-15-6-Inch-Quad-Core-Processor/dp/B00IB04M5K/
I'm a little confused with your comment on the 11.6" screen.  The S192 only has a 7" screen.  It is less than 6" tall, and 11" wide.  So, it is safe to assume that it will weigh a little more than the S7800.  I don't think it will be too much more.

Where I do agree with you, is that the device is a bit overpriced.  I paid $279 for mine.  At the time of release, the Shield Tablet was $299, and a controller was another $60.  Heck, I got mine with the cover, controller and tablet for $397, I recall.  So, $279 didn't seem so bad.  Now that the Shield Tablet K1 is $199, it makes this a little harder a pill to swallow.  Considering my iPega was only $30.  The iPega and Shield are $229 together, and that's setup I would compare this too.  The Shield Tablet has a 19.75 Watt Hour battery (5200mAh?), so the extra battery will be nice too.  But, I will spend the extra $40 just for the headache of not having to pair the controller.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Joe Sixpack on November 25, 2015, 12:06:24 am
Oh Im glad to see they're using a more powerful SoC.

when the 7800 came out the spec was sorta ho-hum.. I mean the mali in the rk3188 was kinda long in the tooth for native 3d games.. for emulation really didn't matter much.

I would disagree. At the time they designed the S7800B the RK3188 was still a decent SOC.
It was decent enough.. but even at it's release there was much debate over rather to get the A or B version.
There was reports of the A but I don't think it was ever produced.. It was running a allwinner SoC.. don't recall which one but it's spec was 1ghz cpu and had a powervr gpu which grossly outmatched the mali configuration in the rk3188..
The A was also slightly ham strung from it's 1gb memory.. in most cases this would not be an issue though.

so it was general decided that the A would be superior for native android games where the GPU is doing the heavy lifting.
Where as more emulators make very little use of the GPU and so the 1gz on the A would have hurt emulation.

So this is what I mean when I say the mali in the rk3188 was long in the tooth.. the original B's (about first 6 weeks of production) had rk3188's @ 1.6ghz and ran emulation rather well.
later production used -T (lower bin) rk3188's running at 1.4.. although a lot of them could be OC'ed more or less stable at 1.6, the mali's was also clocked lower in the -T's

At the time of the release the rk3188 was still able to play most 3d android games smoothy but not all there was some definite frame drop in some of the more demanding games, It most certainly has not gotten any better over the last 2 years of the product life.

Is the rk3188 a bad SoC? no.. but it's GPU was pretty underwhelming even when the 7800 was released.
for the most part this didn't matter a lot as most of us have a primary use towards emulation where it has little impact beyond things like hardware scaling etc, which pretty much any GPU can do without breaking a sweat.

point being while the powerful hardware should ensure a long road of smooth gameplay Im sitting this cycle out because as powerful as the hardware is it doesn't offer much over what I have.

That must mean you have the Shield or something else based on newer chipsets. The Nvidia's only real competition are SOC's based on the newest SnapDragon and the like, which are in the $600 to $700 range.
No not really, Fastest android I have is my phone which is a sprint galaxy s4 (600 snapdragon @ 1.9ghz)
Ironically I almost never play games on my phone.
My 7800 is my primary android tablet in all things.

In case I hadn't made it clear earlier, when I say the s192 brings nothing new I mean in emulation.
It will smooth out emulation of systems like psp and dreamcase.. although dreamcast runs pretty respectable on the 7800.. it might bring dolphin.. so I guess there is that.. it's not a high priority on my list but to some it might be.

The next big step in my eye's is the ps2.. which the emulation is in it's infancy on android and the hardware is not there to run it smoothly anyway, as was pointed out by someone else ps2 emulation is pretty heavy weight even on PC.. but at least it's doable there.

Now as I pointed out there will probably be some native games that can take advantage of the s192's offerings.
But they will be far and few between.. most app's wont be made with s192 spec's in mind.. they'll be made for middle of the road which is far lower then what the s192 will be packing.


Emulation will be more concerned over the CPU then the GPU, and the s192 won't emulate SNES or PS1 any better then JXD's last offering.

Only area I can really thing of it improving on is PSP, and dreamcast although I must say reicast works shockingly well as-is.

PS1? Sure, Dreamcast, PSP and DS emu's will see a marked improvement and by themselves are worth considering the purchase. But such reasons are far from the only reasons...
ps1 runs perfect for me on my 7800, so no I don't see how a faster system will improve perfect.
Dreamcast runs pretty well I've not tested every game but the ones I tested run at 40fps if not full.
a faster system would bring it up to fullspeed but imo would mostly be a numbers game as the games run shockingly well already, so I'd see it as a waste of money to dump 200-300dollars into a system for that.
I don't knock you if you do it for that reason.. but to me cost/reward ratio is pretty bad.

DS, you got me there.. I actually have to plead ignorance, I'd forgotten about that system I tried a few games out on one of the free emulators the play store.. I think it was ndsdroid or something like that.
iirc it ran ok.. not great.. I hear drastic is better but that costs.. and Im not that interested in DS except maybe pokemon.
So ya maybe the s192 makes sense for DS, dunno enough about it to argue about it.

It won't bring us PS2 emulation which for me personally is the next step.

So im gonna hang on to what I have, skip this cycle, in say 2 years when they have a new deivce maybe i'll like the design better, maybe the ps2 emulator will be mature enough and maybe the hardware powerful enough to get it off the ground on android.

That is really more personal preference, and a one that does not take into consideration all of the factors of a device like this. The entire upper end library of premium titles on Google Play and Nvidia's store. Perfect 1080 playback for HD video on the built in screen and 4k playback through the HDMI at full 60hz. There are no devices like this on the market right now, even from Nvidia. JXD is taking advantage of this and wants to improve it's name and market share with this. I love my Q9PSV, but the S192 is going to clean it's clock.
Of course it is, it's my personal opinion, I already mentioned there will be a few games that can take advantage of the s192, but as I said this will be far and few between, most games simply aren't made with s192 spec's in mind.. generally app makers will shoot for middle of the road.. if not lower to give them a wide audience.

I don't know if it'll have 4k output.. if that matters to you and you plan to use hdmi out then maybe this is really important to you and worth the price.. I'd wager a guess that very few people on this board have 4k sets.

my rk3188 plays 1080p videos fine last time I checked (night of the living dead [Public domain btw])
well.. I mean decoded, the screen is not high enough for 1080p.. the hdmi supposedly can run 1080 though.
Again if this matters to you then by all means.. frankly 1080p is not important to me on a tablet or phone.
from a networking stand point I doubt the crummy wifi on my 7800 could keep up with streaming 1080p, and unless JXD turns over a new leaf there is no guarantee they will break their track record of having crappy wifi on their devices.

and as for local storage of 1080p video's.. no thanks, again a personal preference but I don't store video's of that size on my tablet.

So again if this matters to you then by all means get a s192, Im not telling you not to im telling you why IM NOT.


to put it in other words I see the s192 as the vista between XP and 7

Really? LOL! That is a heck of a point of view. Seems a bit wonky to me...
as I explained a few times previously.. the reason I say it's Vista is I don't see it offering enough improvement over the last offering to justify an upgrade especially at the price expected.

Cost / Advantage just ain't there for me.. maybe your particular expectations and uses are different, Infact I can clearly see that they are.
I see it as a better use of money to just sit this cycle out and wait for the next one, Hence the "vista" metaphor.. whether or not the s192 flop's like vista.. remains to be seen, however many people simply skipped vista by staying on XP (in my case XP is the 7800)


I actually hope it's wildly successful because I do like that these types of devices are being made
and I really would like to see JXD turn over a new leaf and come out with a awesome from the start solid device.

I still don't understand some people views on JXD's and GPD's build quality. I have only ever had an issue with build quality on one device like these and it was the Archos Gamepad1. It had a bad battery, which they swiftly replaced. I've never had any problems with any of my JXD or GPD devices, and I have dropped my S5800 more than a few times and it's held up better than some of my Samsung phones. So either some people are REALLY picky or there have been a few instances of defective unit getting to people, which happens with everything, even Nintendo systems.
True, everyone has bad units..
Based on your post count you look new here, so im not sure if you're familiar with jxd's track record.
There seems to almost always be an issue with there devices, sometimes it's hardware, or just poor QC, and almost always firmware.

A user by the name of skelton around here did a LOT of firmware work for previous JXD devices and you can ask anyone with those devices that skelton worked on that they weren't complete until his or another users hard work on cleaning up the firmware.

Look at the 7800 many firmwares have come out to try and improve on JXD's stock offerings.. all of them successful in one way or another, yet things like less then 60fps output on HDMI eludes us even to this day.

I don't have any of the older devices, I had stalked the board for a long time wanting one but never got one.
when the 7800 came out I took the hook and preordered... experienced people here warned against pre orders due to JXD's history, I ignored.. I regretted.

The 7800 had problems just like previous devices, the chargers they included had a nasty habit of dying after a few days.. a couple people even had smoke.. and a few more even had units die at the same time the charger did.. no one can say for sure if the charger did it.

Personally im of the opinion that the included chargers was both a danger to man and machine and probably a fire hazard.

My unit had 2 issues from day 1.
touch screen with randomly occurring dead zones on the left hand side.
the back plate had a lot of broken teeth so it did'nt stay on real well..  (snaps on and off) I did not realize it had so many broken teeth until I got my 2nd unit.

after not much play time the joy sticks started opening up on me.. the left stick now has quite a bit of play before enguaging to the right, it's still usable but the full motion is not there.. can never quite hit 100% value on the right.

the vender I bought from was willing to take it back but it was going to cost 50 dollars to send it from the US.. approx 1/3rd of the total unit price.

It's not like my situation is a isolated incident.. maybe we're the vocal minority but many people have had defects in their units.. some serious.. some less so.

Many people have had their power button / volume rocker let go inside, which I think someone once posted was poorly supported.. I must as admit my volume rocket is a bit loose but still hanging in there, sometimes get random volume changes.

bleh, ok list goes on.. point being it'll be hard to find someone on here who has a high opinion of JXD build / QC
Maybe that changes with the s192, I don't hate JXD.. I like that they're making these devices..
But I can't turn a blind eye to their faults either.


But then again android games are getting more complex, more power hungry so maybe Im wrong and the s192 will see great performance not as a emulation device but for native android games.

And that is exactly why I personally want one. The first Nvidia Shield[clamshell] performed well, but the screen was just too small for it's cumbersome shape and price range. The Shield tab needs an external controller, which is even less portable and defeats the whole purpose of the device altogether. The S192 fits into that "just right" format slot with great specs, decent size, comfortable ergonomics and decent price.
Thats absolutely fine, and while I still find the price hard to swallow with a JXD brand on it.
I might feel differently if I didn't already have a device.. but I do and I don't feel the pressure to upgrade especially when as I stated vast majority of apps are wrote with middle of the road spec in mind which the 7800 still falls into.

You don't honestly need me to justify your own decision to purchase one do you?
Im just pointing out reason why I won't be buying one, will be waiting for the next cycle, and im sure im not alone in this thinking.

to me for this kinda money it has to offer more then just the top 5% of android games or what not
and playing 1080p video is not compelling enough because for practicality reasons I wouldn't be playing 1080p or 4k video on it even if I had it.

As I said the next big thing for me is playable ps2 emulation.. which I doubt you could sit there and say with a straight face you expect to happen on this device even 2 years from now when the now infant emulation has matured some.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: RZ_29 on November 25, 2015, 02:13:54 pm
Correct me if I'm wrong but I still think that the JXD S192 might help PS1 emulators get better.

I use the S7800B and if if I use either the new 2x resolution in ePSXe, or an OpenGL plugin to get much better 3D, the JXD S7800 doesn't get by 100%.

anyone?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: RZ_29 on November 27, 2015, 09:48:47 am
Update: Now there is even a x4 GPU Resolution in ePSXe emulator.

The JXD goes at 20% on this. the JXD S192 will probably make it workable, no?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on November 27, 2015, 10:09:03 am
Ask someone who has nvidia sheild tablet as its pretty much the same thing. Ifnit was on sheild ok it will work on s192
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on November 27, 2015, 04:05:16 pm
Update: Now there is even a x4 GPU Resolution in ePSXe emulator.

The JXD goes at 20% on this. the JXD S192 will probably make it workable, no?

Tested on my Shield Tablet.  When I set it to 4, the colors are off, and everything gains scanlines.  I don't see any performance drop though.  Just the graphical issues.  Everything else is basically maxed out for settings, with no frame skip. though.  So there may be another setting that needs to be downgraded.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: RZ_29 on November 27, 2015, 04:18:20 pm
Did you try different games? maybe you just have to tweek something else
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on November 27, 2015, 04:35:50 pm
Did you try different games? maybe you just have to tweek something else

Tony Hawk 3 and Tekken 3 are the only ones I have.  Is there a specific game you want me to try?

David
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: RZ_29 on November 27, 2015, 04:42:16 pm
Oh, and both had those colour glitches on x4?

Can you try Final Fantasy IX?

Thanks!

Ricardo
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on November 27, 2015, 07:07:46 pm
Yes, it happens with both games, and not also with FFIX.  I tried adjusting some of the settings (moving down to 16bit colors, going to multi-core, trying the non-FSAA hardware renderer, etc), and it didn't seem to matter.  2x runs perfectly though.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: ­ on November 27, 2015, 08:46:23 pm
+-------+--------------------+-------------------+
|  Mode | Resolution (H x V) |       Scan          |
+-------+--------------------+-------------------+
|   0   |     256 x 240      |                      |
|   1   |     320 x 240      |   Non-Interlaced     |
|   2   |     512 x 240      |                      |
|   3   |     640 x 240      |                      |
+-------+--------------------+-------------------+
|   4   |     256 x 480      |                      |
|   5   |     320 x 480      |    Interlaced        |
|   6   |     512 x 480      |                      |
|   7   |     640 x 480      |                      |
+-------+--------------------+-------------------+
(copied from here (http://www.gamingforce.org/forums/video-gaming/21330-ps1-native-resolution.html))
Beyond 640*480, or more commonly 320*240, the emulator extrapolates on the nature of textures. In 2x mode, it merely needs to fill in the gap (1 pixel) between two adjacent pixels. In 4x mode, the gap extends to 3 pixels, leaving more room for error (or "blank pixels" = the illusion of scanlines).
If you're going for accuracy, there's literally nothing to be gained from these modes, as they do not replicate the original experience, and only gives the illusion of HD - they can't create information out of thin air.

So, in short, we've reached a plateau in terms of PS1 emulation a while ago. There's nothing to be gained, and smoothing out the picture can be done with a multitude of shaders instead of emulator options.

As said, better hardware can only improve on the more intensive platforms: NDS, PSP, N64 (which all benefit from software advancement more than just better hardware), and DC, PS2, GC/Wii (which will benefit from better hardware alongside better software).

I think we're one or two generations away from good PS2/GC/Wii emulation, so I don't think the S192 will bring much to the plate, aside from DC.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on November 27, 2015, 10:09:18 pm
So, in short, we've reached a plateau in terms of PS1 emulation a while ago. There's nothing to be gained, and smoothing out the picture can be done with a multitude of shaders instead of emulator options.

Yup.  Emulation is pretty perfect.  Sound was great also.  I mostly emulate genesis and snes, so I've not played with PS1 or PSP much.  After these tests though, I may start imaging my old PSP games. :-)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Vinc3Has3 on December 01, 2015, 03:35:09 pm
So, in short, we've reached a plateau in terms of PS1 emulation a while ago. There's nothing to be gained, and smoothing out the picture can be done with a multitude of shaders instead of emulator options.

Agreed - on handhelds. However, 2x mode does make presentation on HDMI a bit nicer - just like the original PSone, the emulated image looks like crap blown-up and forced onto an HDTV, even with all the basic smoothing options on.

Also, OpenGL is TOO slick, as you mentioned. There's only so much info there, and trying to smooth it all out starts to get silly. The 2x gives a sharper picture, while still maintaining the feel of the original games via HDMI. On my handhelds, no extra image manipulation is really needed - it's just fine in it's core version, with basic smoothing options on.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on December 01, 2015, 03:56:52 pm
Scanlines is whats needed to make the image more palatable on big HD TV's.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Vinc3Has3 on December 01, 2015, 11:28:07 pm
Scanlines is whats needed to make the image more palatable on big HD TV's.
So far, that's never been a favorite of mine. I'll use it for a bit, thinking it's fun and smoothing things out a bit, then feel it just gets in the way. Depends on if you really want to make everything look like you are sitting in front of a TV in 1995. I suppose it's kind of like wanting a classic monopoly set as opposed to a new one: game still plays the same, it's just the ambience.

I think a game should basically be played the way it was meant to be played, but I actually DO like to turn on the hacked "widescreen" mode (not the stretched screen) on games that can handle it. The original Gran Tourismo is amazing played in true 16x9 - Blasto looks great as well. Madden is also a winner. Add the 2x to it, and they feel like your playing them fresh all over again. I'm reminded of the feeling when I cranked them up for the first time on my original Playstation console (yes, I'm old...).
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on December 02, 2015, 07:06:16 am
Play the way its meant to be played? Like on a CRT television :-P
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: kristianity77 on December 02, 2015, 01:17:52 pm
There are some really nice shaders that should be incorporated into Android emulators, espeically for TV out that REALLY give a close authentic look to playing on a CRT.  They can emulate the curvature of a CRT screen, even the colour bleed that goes with CRTs.  Really is a great look when playing TV out from a Laptop to LCD.  Really needs to come to Android emulators is possible.

Old article but more info here:

http://filthypants.blogspot.co.uk/2010/12/crt-pixel-shader-filter-for-snes.html
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on December 02, 2015, 01:21:58 pm
CRT use scanlines. That's the point I was making.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: ­ on December 02, 2015, 03:34:24 pm
Scanlines have actually little to no impact on graphical quality, aside from losing data. It was a problem programmers had to accept its existence rather than abuse, unlike color bleed.

With color bleed, they often use single pixels as gradients to surpass the system's limited color palette (like on SNES), or to make jagged surfaces smooth (PS1), making its emulation very important. On the other hand, scanlines aren't very important (unless going for extreme authenticity).
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on December 02, 2015, 03:40:50 pm
How can you say they have no impact?

In emulators i turn them on and for real hardware I have a scanline generator (scart/rgb)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on December 02, 2015, 03:41:43 pm
It makes the images smoother to the eye ;-)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: ­ on December 02, 2015, 04:09:24 pm
The facts that it makes the image darker (because it inserts a black pixel between every two) and smooths the picture (again, because you can't see the edges due to black pixels) doesn't make it an improvement. You're removing data, while the same positive outcomes can be reached using the color bleed shader.

But you're correct, it's closer to the original way it's meant to be played. It just wasn't utilized in a meaningful manner for a drastic impact on the visual quality - if you were to decrease the brightness and use one of the smoothing options (like 2x) you'd get exactly the same result, without the loss of data.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Vinc3Has3 on December 06, 2015, 12:48:12 am
Play the way its meant to be played? Like on a CRT television :-P

No, That's not the way games were meant to be played. They were meant to be played on their original system. To say a CRT was the way Crash Bandicot was meant to be played is like saying 'I Love Lucy' was meant to be in black and white: It was simply the delivery method of the time. That was all. CRT scaliness were not a method of antialiasing; they were the way monitors worked. In fact, we kept trying to make the things look better - Video in instead of RF, Projection tv, flat-tube monitors, S-video and component inputs - we never wanted stuff to look like our crappy televisions.

Emulators attempt to re-create the function of the original unit, and some programmers use overlays to simulate what a game may have looked like being run in it's native habitat, so to speak. But no one considered scan lines as some kind of feature. I was there for all that crap - we are much better off now, and simulated scan-lines basically get in the way of my Gran Turismo race.  :)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: aserougi on December 08, 2015, 09:56:53 am
We created a project called "eROMP (Emulator ROM Portable)" on Indiegogo.com and looking for your help to raise funds for our project. Please check the project link below and if you cannot contribute financially it would be great if you can spread the word about it http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/eromp-emulator-rom-portable#/

Thank you for your help in making our project a reality.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: aserougi on December 08, 2015, 09:57:55 am
We created a project called "eROMP (Emulator ROM Portable)" on Indiegogo.com and looking for your help to raise funds for our project. Please check the project link below and if you cannot contribute financially it would be great if you can spread the word about it http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/eromp-emulator-rom-portable#/

Thank you for your help in making our project a reality.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: lemmywinks on December 08, 2015, 12:25:19 pm
We created a project called "eROMP (Emulator ROM Portable)" on Indiegogo.com and looking for your help to raise funds for our project. Please check the project link below and if you cannot contribute financially it would be great if you can spread the word about it http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/eromp-emulator-rom-portable#/

Thank you for your help in making our project a reality.

Just a couple of points:

- If the price is $199 + $20 int. shipping then it needs 64gb storage. Also max SD card needs to be 128gb not 32gb.
- Are any of those emulators able to take advantage of 8 cores? How many use more than 1?

Otherwise good luck!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: ClawShrimp on December 09, 2015, 01:04:08 am
We created a project called "eROMP (Emulator ROM Portable)" on Indiegogo.com and looking for your help to raise funds for our project. Please check the project link below and if you cannot contribute financially it would be great if you can spread the word about it http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/eromp-emulator-rom-portable#/

Thank you for your help in making our project a reality.

So the eROMP 1 is a rebranded iPega PG9700; and the eROMP 2 is the same, but with better processor/GPU.

No mention of RAM on your indiegogo page.

Also...and this is being pedantic...this thread is specifically for the JXD S192. Your post should really be in here instead (http://boards.dingoonity.org/android-devices/)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: ClawShrimp on December 09, 2015, 01:20:21 am
Wait...wasn't this a failed Kickstarter from last year?

I've just checked and you started a Kickstarter campaign in December 2014 for the same device, but raised only $1,018 towards your incredibly high goal of $950,000.

Back then I wondered to myself why you needed so much, given you were only rebranding an existing device; and now, even though your goal is significantly lower ($225,000) I'm asking myself the same question.

Of course, with Indiegogo's flexible funding, you'll be able to receive all funds raised even if your goal isn't reached.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on December 09, 2015, 08:09:13 am
Scammer. Shame.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on December 09, 2015, 10:46:39 pm
Scammer. Shame.

I'm not certain he's a scammer.  I think he really thinks he can make these.  I'd rather call him a dreamer.  I am sure he has the factory in China that makes the iPega PG-9700 all ready to make this unit.  Most likely he's looking at getting them for $90-$150 each.  So, if he did hit the mark, he'd probably deliver the machines... and make a fortune.  The more he orders, the lower the cost, and the higher the profit.

The specs aren't the same as the iPega PG-9700, so it isn't an identical machine.  It is pretty close though.  Plus, it is still running Jelly Bean, so there isn't any customization being done.  Just an OEM order, and redistribution.  There is a reason this is still sitting at $0.  As well, his team consists of 1 person!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: ClawShrimp on December 10, 2015, 12:11:26 am
Scammer. Shame.

I'm not certain he's a scammer.  I think he really thinks he can make these.  I'd rather call him a dreamer.  I am sure he has the factory in China that makes the iPega PG-9700 all ready to make this unit.  Most likely he's looking at getting them for $90-$150 each.  So, if he did hit the mark, he'd probably deliver the machines... and make a fortune.  The more he orders, the lower the cost, and the higher the profit.

The specs aren't the same as the iPega PG-9700, so it isn't an identical machine.  It is pretty close though.  Plus, it is still running Jelly Bean, so there isn't any customization being done.  Just an OEM order, and redistribution.  There is a reason this is still sitting at $0.  As well, his team consists of 1 person!

If we looked at the Indiegogo campaign in isolation, it could be argued that he's not a scammer.

But when we consider the failed Kickstarter, things start to fall apart. The eROMP device (then) was exactly the same as the iPega (specs and all), and he was charging exactly the same amount as iPega themselves ($199). How could he justify nearly a million dollars as a funding goal for this when the overheads were minimal? There was no product design, no software development, no R&D. iPega had already done all of that work for him.

Now he's shifted to Indiegogo, things haven't improved much. His video (which is essentially a slightly altered version of the one he used last year) doesn't even touch on the justification of the funding goal. Regardless, whenever I see 'flexible funding' on Indiegogo, alarm bells ring.

To clarify, the eROMP 1 is exactly the same as the iPEGA. The eROMP 2 (which isn't shown in the video at all) has better specs; but I suspect he's simply chosen what he thinks are attractive specs and done little investigation into whether this possible, or the real costs associated with it.

Worst case scenario, he's a total scammer. Best case scenario, he's an incredibly naive businessman.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on December 10, 2015, 04:14:07 pm
If we looked at the Indiegogo campaign in isolation, it could be argued that he's not a scammer.
...
Worst case scenario, he's a total scammer. Best case scenario, he's an incredibly naive businessman.

Correct.  As I said, "I'm not certain he's a scammer".  Scammer implies that he is being dishonest, or being fraudulent.  He very well could be a complete idiot.  I mean, it really wasn't that smart to post on this forum.

Just remember that many of these $50 tablets you find all over the Internet are OEM Chinese tablets from a single manufacturer.  They just have them placed in branded boxes, and pop their name on them.  The factory will even create a custom firmware with their logo in it.  I can go into any Walgreens here in the States, and find a $50 Polaroid Android tablet.  Polaroid doesn't make it.  They just OEM it from a Chinese factory.  They are just distributing it under their own name.  What he is trying to do isn't much different.  The difference is that he is a nobody, and trying to ask for money up-front for a product that already exists, and really bringing no benefit to the purchaser.  Most likely, that's why he upgraded the resolution.

So, not sure he is trying to scam anyone.  He is just trying to make some money by using Crowd Funding, and not being very smart about it.  The question is with the Tegra model.  Unless it is an OEM JXD S192, he's not giving them to anyone.  Given that he posted in THIS thread, I think that is what people would have received.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: MOFO on December 13, 2015, 02:45:09 pm
Forget the eRomp, does anyone have the S192 yet?
Looking for some impressions on the device
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Mountainmohawk on December 13, 2015, 07:06:12 pm
Forget the eRomp, does anyone have the S192 yet?
Looking for some impressions on the device

I would like to know this as well
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on December 13, 2015, 07:40:04 pm
I don't believe it is releasing until January.  But, I hope it releases before.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: xmcnuggetx on December 14, 2015, 02:57:19 pm
The email I received from them

Quote
Dear {removed},

Firstly, we thank you for the support of JXD, especially for the coming game console S192.

We apologize for the delay shipment of S192, hereby we have the recent situation of S192 and want to share with you.

According to our investigation so far, most of gamers are prefer to increase the storage instead of the rear 13MP camera, because people usually take photos by their smartphones, it will be a little strange for taking photos by such a gaming device.

Finally, our management have the decision: CANCEL THE REAR 13MP CAMERA, INCREASE THE NAND FLASH TO 32GB.

Because of the specs changes, we will have much work to do, so the time to market will delay to the end of January 2016. If you are still willing to wait untill the end of January 2016, it will be greatly appreciated. If not, we suggest you request a refund, when the NEW S192 is available, you will be the first one we will inform and will have the highest priority to place an order. We will arrange the refund after receive your confirmation by email.

Thanks for your understanding, wish you happy everyday!

Kind regards,

I sent them a message asking if they were still on track for the end of January and if I hear anything I'll post it here.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: fofo33 on December 17, 2015, 06:18:20 pm
So, it will be able to emulate GC and PS2? Which is the opinion of the experts?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on December 17, 2015, 06:22:25 pm
Dolphin is not perfect even in a tegra X1, so forget it in a tegra k1. Ps2 is too far to be playable in an Android device.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on December 17, 2015, 06:22:35 pm
If you scroll up a bit someone posted videos of dolphin running (GameCube

http://youtube.com/watch?v=cUMqpAecuAY
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: fofo33 on December 17, 2015, 06:23:53 pm
Dolphin is not perfect even in a tegra X1, so forget it in a tegra k1. Ps2 is too far to be playable in an Android device.

With tears in my eyes, thanks man.  :'(
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on December 17, 2015, 06:24:47 pm
I think for GC and PS2 to work properly and well it will need a version custom compiled for the K1/ nvidia devices??
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: fofo33 on December 17, 2015, 06:28:30 pm
I add some captures to have more information about K1.

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/BQ25GdEqg7Y/maxresdefault.jpg)

(http://images.anandtech.com/doci/9289/X1-Video.PNG)

(http://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/articles/115244-thumb/64-bit-version-of-Tegra-K1-first-run-of-exposure--dual-core-second-eight-nuclear-Tegra-K1--64-bit--dual-core--Denver--run-points--performance----drive-home.png)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on December 18, 2015, 07:01:13 am
I received this from GeekBuying tonight:

-------------------------
Dear friend ,
 
Thank  you for your order from Geekbuying , we appreciate for your patient waiting ,
we know you have ordered the item  "  http://www.geekbuying.com/item/356089  "  which is for  pre-saled .
here we are sorry that the item did not arrive on time for lacking of some special components  , the available time is postponed to 15th Jan.  2016 ,
for this case , do you mind waiting for a few more days ?
please do not worry. Once it's available, we will ship it to you as soon as possible.
We apologize for the inconvenience caused.

Cordially,
Simon
: )  : )  : )  : )  : ) 
KIND NOTICE : Please send or reply email under the same email( the first topic we talk) or else we may not solve the problem for you in time. 
-------------------------

So it looks like the current release date is the 15th of January.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on December 18, 2015, 08:25:23 am
Hope someone hacks marshmallow onto it!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: xmcnuggetx on December 21, 2015, 01:14:13 pm
I sent them a message asking if they were still on track for the end of January and if I hear anything I'll post it here.

I didn't receive an answer to my first enquiry so I sent another message and received a response.

My email
Quote
I ordered the 192 and received my email that it is delayed until January.  I'm still looking forward to my S192.  Is there any further news on the ship date?  Is it still estimated for the end of January?  Is there anywhere to follow for news on the device?

Thank You

Their response
Quote
yes,it's still estimated for the end of January,please pay for more patient,our techinician are improve it now.

sales@jxdofficial.com
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: octo on December 21, 2015, 10:28:48 pm
Thanks for keeping us updated on the order status guys, really interested to hear feedback on this device when people start getting theirs.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: fofo33 on December 22, 2015, 07:08:51 pm
I have a simple question, is there any relation/correlation between the antutu or other benchmarkings and the capacity/skill to emulate?

Just curiosity.


Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: ­ on December 22, 2015, 07:16:27 pm
There are many factors to consider, the most important of which is the emulator itself.
If some games are simply unoptimized for in the emulator, you'll gain only marginal speed if you improve you AnTuTu score.
Same goes for hardware compatibility, chipset, etc.. It's too complicated to sum up by one score.

However, in an ideal world, where everything runs as fast as the hardware allows it - the better the AnTuTu score, the more GFlops you have to work with, resulting in an improved performance.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: vcoleiro1 on January 03, 2016, 10:09:42 am
Just noticed that JXD's site is showing 955 of them in stock and available for sale for $269. (previously the listing was showing out of stock)

http://www.jxd.hk/product/s192/
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on January 03, 2016, 10:12:07 am
Just checked and it says 16GB so guessing that's the old version with 16GB nand and front camera.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: shinkamui on January 03, 2016, 12:43:06 pm
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Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on January 05, 2016, 08:55:04 pm
Just noticed that JXD's site is showing 955 of them in stock and available for sale for $269. (previously the listing was showing out of stock)

http://www.jxd.hk/product/s192/

Only sold 4 so far.  I think most people are waiting for the reviews to come in.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on January 05, 2016, 11:58:49 pm
Well I hope they arrive soon, website still says shipping end if January even though they are now taking money and selling them.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: xmcnuggetx on January 06, 2016, 12:46:59 am
They were taking money for sure in October, possibly earlier.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on January 06, 2016, 02:57:56 pm
Anyone got any promo codes for jxd sales site? Can get %10 off elsewhere but nothing direct.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: keldridge00 on January 06, 2016, 07:05:02 pm
Anyone see this:

http://www.unlockpwd.com/half-life-2%EF%BC%9Aep1-for-nvidia-tegra-k1-jxd-s192-game-review/
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: xmcnuggetx on January 06, 2016, 10:28:21 pm
Man I've been watching this thing like a hawk and didn't notice they uploaded youtube videos!  Looks sharp.

https://www.youtube.com/user/jxdofficialcom

Man I've been watching this thing like a hawk and didn't notice they uploaded youtube videos!  Looks sharp.

https://www.youtube.com/user/jxdofficialcom/videos
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on January 08, 2016, 06:13:03 pm
The told me on their FB page they will be shipping soon.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on January 10, 2016, 03:39:24 pm
I've been told the same...

I actually went to the online store and was able to chat with someone but they were somewhat useless and took long to respond. The only thing I got from them is that they will be shipping out units by then end on this month but no exact date.

I'm tempted to get one but the price is too steep...then again, I don't see any handheld from china that has these specks... I wonder if GPD is developing something similar... Funny how rumors went out a few months ago that JXD stopped making handhelds leaving some people to go with GPD....which is not bad either.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on January 10, 2016, 07:43:54 pm
There are tablets with similar specs, the sheild 2 which S192 is based on. Not sure on price comparisons.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: willgoo on January 11, 2016, 09:46:43 am
Is this the first information for the specification on JXD S192? ;) Prototype is still not in hand. Information offered by the men from JXD. No any comments on when it will be released.

(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/12507442_960762420638644_8121854640590644528_n.png?oh=53da98009167e5954372a59b0e23dd96&oe=56FECBD2)

(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xla1/v/t1.0-9/12512814_960762663971953_3077422870564403490_n.png?oh=4c8c18fa791af55a6f9a5452d0d138c2&oe=5748B3EA)

(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/12418105_960762450638641_579355256280254058_n.png?oh=2fbd8e71fdaa39f7f47f58b29b71e794&oe=5740828D)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on January 11, 2016, 09:48:38 am
Please run same test on S7800 and post same screen shots to compare.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: willgoo on January 11, 2016, 09:51:30 am
Please run same test on S7800 and post same screen shots to compare.

It seems like that this prototype is not the final version of s192. I guess they will release the 32GB internal memory ;D
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on January 11, 2016, 10:16:06 am
That's OK. Please run test on S7800. Is that program free?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: 153stars on January 11, 2016, 10:19:41 pm
Please run same test on S7800 and post same screen shots to compare.

It seems like that this prototype is not the final version of s192. I guess they will release the 32GB internal memory ;D

 Yes program is free ,use advanced task killer ,kill apps before running it, set to aggressive, to kill to keep a bunch of other apps from running and starting.If I remember right @ 1.6 Lujji's I got about 32,000,
From what I have read many name brand devices and phones do something to artificially inflate antutu scores, so take it all with a grain of salt  http://www.anandtech.com/show/7384/state-of-cheating-in-android-benchmarks
Seeing if it can play some games in dolphin would be the test. Emulators are more about processor than graphics cause you are converting a proprietary operating system. 
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: EddCoates on January 13, 2016, 03:05:55 am
Any impressions/reviews yet guys?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: willgoo on January 13, 2016, 06:46:59 am
Here are videos offered by JXD:

https://www.facebook.com/JXDofficial/videos/1047960961913242/

https://www.facebook.com/JXDofficial/videos/1047962085246463/

Still do not have hands on this unit till now.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on January 13, 2016, 07:47:38 am
The official videos say 'Review' but they are just someone playing on it and also is quite edited and jumps sometimes like they cut something out they didn't want to us to see?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: vcoleiro1 on January 13, 2016, 11:20:58 am
JXD have a lot of videos on the JXD S192 on their Youtube channel -> www.youtube.com/user/jxdofficialcom/videos

Looks like JXD have sold 27 of them in the last 10 days. Stock has gone down steadily from 955 to 928

There's also this video of them showing the S192 at some exhibition recently

#Invalid YouTube Link#
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on January 13, 2016, 11:23:59 am
Never going to get a case to fit this beast.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: diablotinbouky on January 13, 2016, 01:22:33 pm
... Funny how rumors went out a few months ago that JXD stopped making handhelds leaving some people to go with GPD....which is not bad either.

Not a rumour, end 2014,  i was in Shenzhen  and visiting JXD...That was Official, they stop Android gaming device....
One year later, they change advise....😝😝😝
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: EddCoates on January 13, 2016, 05:09:03 pm
Yeahhh seen those videos, I'm just really waiting for some unbiased opinions from users :)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: eragon2890 on January 14, 2016, 12:53:42 pm
... Funny how rumors went out a few months ago that JXD stopped making handhelds leaving some people to go with GPD....which is not bad either.

Not a rumour, end 2014,  i was in Shenzhen  and visiting JXD...That was Official, they stop Android gaming device....
One year later, they change advise....😝😝😝

Maybe youtube, webshops, and even mainstream gaming and review sites like nintendolife going crazy over the XD reinvigirated them ? Anyway, good thing, more competition! good, good.

Soon it will be the JXD K1 "look I can play resident evil 5 the talos principle borderlands 2 etc in full hd" (those are tegra games right??) vs the GPD "Hello I run windows 10 have a cherrytrail and 4 GB RAM and I run sleeping dogs, burnout paradise, tomb raider, skyrim, cod modern warfare 3 etc. at 25-40 fps on lowest settings!" and most gamers here will still be happy that their new 3ds xl renders the 2d map in fire emblem at a slightly-less-shitty resolution then the old one.

I am excited to see who will win this fight! Raw unmatched power (JXD) or windows 10 (running all your steam games), portability, and probably lower price (GPD) ?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on January 14, 2016, 02:07:57 pm
Hmm not really a fight, all the 3 machines you mentioned are a different type of device. For me JXD is and will always be about portable good emulation. My £2K gaming rig is for playing modern games on. And GPD is for people who prefer cheaper costs.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: AVahne on January 15, 2016, 05:38:17 pm
"new 3ds xl renders the 2d map in fire emblem at a slightly-less-shitty resolution then the old one"

Er...resolution is still as shitty as the older 3DS. Won't be seeing a Nintendo handheld with a slightly less shitty screen resolution until their next handheld. Personally I expect them to use a 800x480 screen.
Personally I'm going to want to grab the GPD Win first, but if the JXD S192 isn't built crappily and can be at least half of the Shield Portable's build quality I'll grab it second. Unless NVIDIA brings out a Shield 2 with X1 or Parker, then S192 would be third.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: ­ on January 15, 2016, 05:50:50 pm
I am excited to see who will win this fight! Raw unmatched power (JXD) or windows 10 (running all your steam games), portability, and probably lower price (GPD) ?

Even if you have the most powerful system in the world, if there is no quality software for it - it's going to be abandoned. Most of the Android games and software is focused on the low-end, and that really limits the scope of "not being bound by hardware restrictions". Just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: eragon2890 on January 16, 2016, 05:36:24 pm
I am excited to see who will win this fight! Raw unmatched power (JXD) or windows 10 (running all your steam games), portability, and probably lower price (GPD) ?

Even if you have the most powerful system in the world, if there is no quality software for it - it's going to be abandoned. Most of the Android games and software is focused on the low-end, and that really limits the scope of "not being bound by hardware restrictions". Just my 2 cents.

Very true, but nvidia is doing a great job of solving that. Some titles they have gotten ported over to android andr unning on a k1 and not, say, a XD include Half life 2, portal, trine 2,  the talos principle and more.  Faster wifi chip could also help with gamestreaming, and I don´t know how PLAY (ps2 emu) runs on k1?

On the other hand, excluding the tegra games, the XD already has this problem. It runs 3d games significantly faster then a note 4 or a galaxy s6 and the like, ie. it´s ridiculously fast (4 core mali-760@720p vs 8 core mali-760*1440p, so no surprise), yet games like oddworld or fifa 15 will not look better then on a galaxy s6. (altough for fifa 15, looking at reviews it´s unplayable slow framerate on most flagships, so the XD getting nearly always 60fps is an improvement on itself).

Seeing the XD has it, then surely yes, the s192 is definitely going to suffer from this...
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: xmcnuggetx on January 20, 2016, 11:38:25 am
Latest email from JXD

Quote
Thanks for your choose and support our game console enthusiastically.Due to the delay of American electronic component.

Tt's very pity to tell you that we put the delivery date of S192 off the end of March.

If you have placed an order,but you are not willing to wait it in March,please reply this email and remake your order number and name,once we
receive your email,we will deal with it asap.

Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience we have caused.Thank you again for a
long time to give S192 support and concern.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on January 20, 2016, 11:46:30 am
Damn that's very disappointing
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: 153stars on January 20, 2016, 05:20:22 pm
I believe the camera thing was an excuse for delay anyway, I think any android device for over $250 US should have an 8-16 MP rear camera with flash and at least 2MP screen facing camera as that's about standard for Chinese phones ,tablets & phablets  In case of tablet the are saving money that they don't have to have a cellular radio and antenna, testing ect. That should get us something extra. IMHO. GIVE ME TWO SD CARD SLOTS AS 64GB CARDS ARE GOING FOR LESS THAN $20 US AND 128GB CARD THEY ARE TRYING TO GET OVER $80 US STILL. Be nice to see a standard recessed thumb drive in reg or micro usb that you can move around and not be as tiny and delicate as micro sd. Plug in device and be just a curve with  a finger nail slot. hold 3 micro sd cards at 192 gb
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on February 01, 2016, 04:42:24 am
i'll take the plunge and get one... I just realized that i'm an electronics hoarder.. I gotta have it...lol

Ill get one directly from JXD... I saw gearbest.com and they have them for Sale at 359.00 which is insane ...I now 269.00 is much, but illl bight the bullet unless another company releases one good or better than this one.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on February 25, 2016, 08:47:21 pm
So another month
.. Any more news?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: firestonex on March 06, 2016, 06:37:19 am
I kind of want it but don't know what I'd do with it... I haven't played my s7800b in a long time, and even if I did upgrade, what would I play that my current one couldn't emulate.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: chewy82 on March 13, 2016, 06:51:10 pm
I wasn't fully convinced at first due to the, erm, stylings of the machine. But if it is actually shipping at the end of the month I think I'll take the plunge.

I'd like some actual reviews though, I guess they haven't sent any demo models out?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on March 13, 2016, 07:27:12 pm
It's not shipping at the end of the month I'm afraid, I heard now that it's end of Q1 which I believe it means April?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: chewy82 on March 13, 2016, 08:28:14 pm
Oh I know, I don't have the spare cash until the end of the month anyway.

I'm just wondering why they haven't sent out any demo hardware to places like WillGoo yet... Anyway, I can wait until there are some more videos floating about I guess.  ;D
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on March 13, 2016, 08:34:34 pm
It's very annoying.  I pre ordered and paid in full 5 months ago now.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: chewy82 on March 13, 2016, 09:28:04 pm
Yikes. Well, I hope for your sake that it is soon.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on March 14, 2016, 03:53:16 am
End of Q1 is just the end of this month.  It runs like this:
Jan - Mar = Q1,
Apr - Jun = Q2,
Jul - Sep = Q3,
Oct - Dec = Q4.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on March 14, 2016, 07:32:25 am
Fingers crossed. If there is no official word from anyone then I'll be cancelling my order. I only paid upfront because it was supposed to have been delayed until end of Dec.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: chewy82 on March 17, 2016, 09:54:12 am
I emailed customer services at JXD last night to ask if they had an estimated shipping date. This is their response:

"Hello,


Thanks for your email.


We are very sorry about the delay, the PCB will be delivered at the end of March, when all materials are ready, we will arrange mass production, I think it will be available for sale at April.


If you are from UK, in fact, we have a UK distributor (http://www.funstockretro.co.uk/ ), you can buy one from them, they will provide the warranty.


Kind regards,


Terry Lu"
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on March 17, 2016, 10:03:34 am
Ha-ha I also emailed this morning. Unexpected the same response. Disappointing. So not ready Q1 as previously told.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: vcoleiro1 on March 17, 2016, 10:09:52 am
That does not sound like an April release to me. More like June if at all at this rate.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on March 17, 2016, 10:16:32 am
I wouldn't mind usually but i paid in advance! Some thing better will be out by JUNE maybe.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: chewy82 on March 17, 2016, 10:23:06 am
Now I'm not sure as to my best options, GPD XD or Shield and iPega... or wait.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on March 17, 2016, 10:26:02 am
What's your options? Sheild is the same as s192 but without joyoad/ sticks?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: vcoleiro1 on March 17, 2016, 10:43:38 am
If it does run into June, then who knows what will be announced by then. Especially with E3 being in June
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: chewy82 on March 17, 2016, 04:26:50 pm
What's your options? Sheild is the same as s192 but without joyoad/ sticks?

I'm thinking the iPega looks a bit... Cheap. Not to mention the deadzones on the analogs.
XD has a nice compact form factor, JXD/Shield has the power.

Might just get the XD for now and the S192 later in the year (if it ever surfaces!)

I sent them another email asking if there were any more videos of it running or any more info they could give us in the meantime. Here's hoping.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on March 18, 2016, 02:58:09 pm
There's lots of videos of it running.

I have the S7800B so I can wait a bit longer. Just annoying i paid up front
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on March 22, 2016, 03:31:54 am
As we speak at 11:06pm on 3/21/16 EST New York,I am chatting with a rep and this is their response:

JXD
HI
I think it will be available in Apr or May...

SO yes, its looking more like Q2 release by June as some have mentioned.... even the rep sounds unsure about its release...

I did state to them that a lot of customers who paid upfront, are considering canceling orders that were made back in November...another delay could mean a drop in sales especially that E3 is just around the corner and something new maybe released.


Doesn't look promising.... im considering getting at least the GPD XD in red... I already have the JXD S7800B, I have the GPD Q9 but sold it to a friend, I figured ill use the money to buy the s192 but that doesn't look like its going to happen anytime soon. keeping my fingers crossed for an April release...

I guess we will see what they would post on their site by the end of this week or sometime early next week.
They need to at least inform those customers who kept their purchases and decided wait
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: eragon2890 on March 25, 2016, 10:19:18 am
Better then with the GPD XD everyone kept pushing them to release it release it GIMME and then the first batch had many more QC problems then all the later ones.... :-/
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on March 25, 2016, 10:34:28 am
Oh no! Like what ? Just overall little problems?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: eragon2890 on March 25, 2016, 11:02:57 am
Oh no! Like what ? Just overall little problems?

like quite a few of them dying within a week, which has I believed not happened once in the five months since then (yes sometimes one has  a defect out of factory, but when you get one that works, it stays working. That's the difference between the first and the later batches. Not for all tough, mine was a pre-order too and after 6+ months of super-mega-intensive daily usage (~5 hours a day I guess for everything from games to internet to anime to school books, I have no smartphone) it still works fine.

But that's why I hope the JXD is not rushed.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: MOFO on March 27, 2016, 08:42:18 pm
WOW!
This thing still has no release date?
Still interested but it's fading.
Are there any gaming videos of this in action?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on March 27, 2016, 09:54:04 pm
I'm dropping my preorder and skipping the device.  I'm getting a Cube i7 for my nephew for his college graduation and calling it a day. 
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: MOFO on March 28, 2016, 03:22:35 pm
Cube i7 does look like a great tablet but not what I'm looking for.
It's a bummer when delays are this long.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on March 28, 2016, 05:26:51 pm
Surprise Surprise...

I checked the site since technically, they are supposed to ship it during week and came across this message..

"Thanks very much for your ongoing attention, now S192 is in preparation for trial production, we will release for sale after that, please stay tuned. The people who already ordered and do not want to wait, now you can cancel the order from the website, we will process it as quickly as we can, sorry again to bring you into trouble. Thanks again for your support, THANKS!"

Again...no word on an exact date... To be honest, im really hoping another company like GPD is coming out with a device that's some what equaly or better in a similar device.... this will ruin JXD but buisness like this can't run on promises either... This is the third delay??!??!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on March 28, 2016, 07:30:43 pm
Cube i7 does look like a great tablet but not what I'm looking for.
It's a bummer when delays are this long.

I've got one already, and it is a cool little device.  Games pretty decent on the older stuff.  My nephew is graduating college so I figured it would be a good one for him.

I am waiting until the end of the week, before swapping though.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: fofo33 on April 01, 2016, 12:37:35 pm
It's completely ridiculous the way that these companies burn the trust of the clients. Another the ground-hog day...

In that moment the initial features of the model are not interesting, and less for this prices. Can the companies listen the market and have a correct behaviour?

Please. There is a market for that kind of product by not doing the things like this.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: 153stars on April 02, 2016, 01:09:10 am
It's clearly worth about 50 less now ,as tablets and phones are going to 3 or 4 gigs of ram and getting better displays higher end processors all the time.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: AVahne on April 02, 2016, 05:24:37 am
Considering how much they're delaying this, this needs to be $200 or less by the time of launch.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on April 02, 2016, 08:07:53 am
153stars - name a good alternative then ?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: RetrospectiveGaming on April 09, 2016, 12:53:34 am
I wonder what happened to this
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: AVahne on April 10, 2016, 05:33:52 pm
I wonder what happened to this

It's still early to say, but I'm starting to think this will just end up like W3D, where it'll become forgotten and quietly fade away.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on April 10, 2016, 07:44:59 pm
I sure hope they release the S192 for sale soon as it will be perfect for gamestreaming and Ps4 remoteplay. Not to mention Android gaming, Retro gaming, and Tegra/Shield-Zone exclusives. Granted I also hope it is a quality product that gets released and one that features over the air updates like the Nvidia Shield line as I hate having to update my GPD XD because of the hassle of RockChip and the BatchTool! Sorry but most consumers want an easy to use product.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on April 11, 2016, 04:14:36 am
On their Facebook page, they said April is when they are releasing, if no more issues. That was on March 21st.  Maybe there is hope.

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Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on April 11, 2016, 08:28:49 am
Yeah hope so, I was thinking of cancelling and getting my money back over the weekend. But as you say, it should be out about now.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on April 15, 2016, 06:00:15 pm
Doesn't look promising at all... I had canceled my order when they announced it was going to be in March. Even till this day, all they can say its "coming soon" with no solid date...i mean WTF!! get it together. The only thing JXD has going for them is:

Time & Hope...for now, there's nothing out on the market like it...(Please lets not compare with tablets because its not the same)...Lets keep it separate from the gamepads..So people are willing to wait in hopes for this device to come out. I'm pretty sure there would be a lot more people would've canceled their orders if there were another device out there with similar specs.
Sure there are JXD and GPD gamepads but they are getting outdated at this point... There's nothing to compete with so people have no choice but to wait..

Lets see how more we have to wait..
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on April 15, 2016, 06:34:49 pm
your lucky, yours is only an order! i paid in full for mine from Funstock.co.uk.

I will be giving them until the end of this month for a firm date or i also will be cancelling and getting a full refund.

Having the JXD S7800 already i have that to play on for now, maybe june/ july some new hadware comes out? shield 3 ?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on April 15, 2016, 07:05:49 pm
Most of us paid in full.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on April 15, 2016, 08:04:10 pm

More fool us :-D

rubbish really, if it wasnt ready they should have waited before announcing, im all up for a month or 2 announcing to create a bit of buzz but it looks like now its just killing off any would be sales and credibility they ever had with this thing.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on April 16, 2016, 12:11:42 am
They originally claimed it would be out the middle of December.  Then it went to Jan, March, April and now who knows.  I just hope it released soon.  Funstock has it listed as "Due for release 6th May 2016".
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on April 16, 2016, 07:55:20 am
I've asked Dennis for an update and to confirm where he got the date from.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on April 18, 2016, 03:07:55 pm
Hah. What a joke, they said 6th May is a provisional date and can change at any time.

I replied saying havent all the previous dates over the last 5 months been provisional?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on April 18, 2016, 03:09:38 pm
So, did he make it up?  HA!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on April 18, 2016, 03:13:44 pm
I'm not sure as I didn't ask him if that was jxd. Ibuave said 2 more weeks and I'm out.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: MOFO on April 25, 2016, 03:21:42 pm
Not sure if this is a good sign or not but they are taking more pre-orders for the S192.

http://www.notebookcheck.net/JXD-S192-gaming-tablet-now-up-for-pre-order.164303.0.html
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on April 25, 2016, 03:36:31 pm
Somone ought to tell that website 6th May is only provisional! My order is with funstock and I asked them to clarify.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: vcoleiro1 on April 26, 2016, 08:20:27 am
JXD's site still says it's out of stock ->  http://www.jxd.hk/product/s192/
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on April 26, 2016, 08:26:33 am
It should be out of stock, they haven't started manufacturing the device as yet (thatbwe have been informed of) it's PRE order only
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: vcoleiro1 on April 26, 2016, 08:32:37 am
Yes, but their site had pre-orders at several times. Since it says out of stock now (as it's done for a while).  It suggests there is still nothing happening
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: kingporkcutlet on April 27, 2016, 08:42:06 pm
We can order it now at JXD's Site(199 stock...)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on April 27, 2016, 08:44:07 pm
Haha.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on April 27, 2016, 08:44:24 pm
Let's hope it is in stock eh?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: darthskids on April 27, 2016, 10:56:22 pm
Just wanted to say glad I stopped by here and heard about this thing!  Looks to be just about everything I could ask for in a portable gaming tablet.  I hate 5" screens, and hate the new shield tablet that there's no way to hold up with the controller, and will never buy another nvidia clamshell device.  Once the warranty is out there's no way to get replacement parts and the design was not reliable enough for what should've been a supported western piece of hardware.  Do wish it had maybe a little more memory but probably won't matter since I'm an emulator junkie.

Glad I didn't pre-order it though.  Never give those chinese manufacturers your money till they have the thing made.  Remember all the craziness with the s7800b when it first came out and some of them were clocked higher, some lower, and all kinds of sheisty stuff.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siegel17701 on April 27, 2016, 11:05:11 pm
Pre order open, when will it ship?

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Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on April 27, 2016, 11:34:00 pm
Gooood question was supposed to be December 2015 haha
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on April 29, 2016, 05:10:04 am
I just check also.. pre orders is now open..for how long, who knows. I'm hearing a release date of May 6th also
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on April 29, 2016, 12:34:42 pm
Thanks for ordering with Funstock, we’d like to let you know we really appreciate that you’ve decided to place your order with us.

 

We’re JXD’s official UK partner, so in terms of a JXD purchase, we are the best retailer to buy from for anything JXD. (12-month warranty and expert support.)

 

Now, we’d like to let you know the current situation with our batch of S192 JXD stock that we are expecting soon. 

 

Our previous correspondence with the JXD team they had informed that the stock would be ready for April to Early May. However, this turned out not to be the case, much to our dismay. 

 

Upon arranging the collection from JXD, they came back to us to inform us that production had not actually started and they were expecting to finish production in May.

We prompted them for a reason as to why they informed us of an end of April shipment time when production hadn’t started, to which we are awaiting a response. 

 

So believe us, we’re just as surprised as you are. We were expecting a seamless launch and for everything to be rather straightforward.

 

However after the light of this news, we have to announce that if production finishes as planned on JXD’s end in May. We are hoping to have the stock at our warehouse around June or July.

(This is an estimate and provided everything goes to plan. We’re going to keep a more updated log with JXD and make sure they keep us updated so we can update you in real time as we have done.)

 

From everyone here at Funstock, we’d like to thank you for your patience and understanding during this time. 


Regards,
Funstock Customer Support

Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: vcoleiro1 on April 29, 2016, 01:32:41 pm
That does not sound like an April release to me. More like June if at all at this rate.


This isn't looking good

Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siegel17701 on April 29, 2016, 06:22:36 pm
Every time I think of ordering I get news like this. Here's to keep waiting.

Thinking of getting this Teca 706B with ipega 9023.

Always worried about Chinese tablets with no pedigree.

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Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on April 29, 2016, 09:41:13 pm
Well I placed my order last night for the Jxd S192 using Jxd's offical site, and this is the reply I received from Jxd.       

 Thank you for your order firstly,
JXD S192 is now in produce on a larger quantity, and we'll send the item for you once it come out.
In general, according to the predict of our engineer, S192 will be fine on 10th May.

Thank you for your understand and cooperation.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on April 30, 2016, 08:54:02 am
JXD aren't exactly know for telling the truth :-P
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on April 30, 2016, 01:23:59 pm
So it will all be finished by the 10:th of May then?
Well, that´s only like two weeks to go, so I guess the wait is almost over.

Delivery in june is probably to be expected. Or what do you think?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on April 30, 2016, 01:32:25 pm
Hi think JXD are full of shit, it should have been out in Dec. Was delayed till march, then April then may now saying shipping end of June.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on April 30, 2016, 01:38:27 pm
It will be ready when it´s ready.  There was apparently a delay from JXD:s american suppliers, and that´s nothing they could do about it. I am really looking forward to get this device in june, and it´s not too far away now! =)

Are you still buying Armageddon, or have you cancelled?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on April 30, 2016, 03:08:13 pm
The American delay was december... If it was ever real in the  first place, given China is THE place to buy electronics what could they possibly be buying from America.

And at the moment I haven't cancelled.  Currently doing other projects, like my custom made arcade panel.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on April 30, 2016, 08:12:21 pm
The American delay was december... If it was ever real in the  first place, given China is THE place to buy electronics what could they possibly be buying from America.

And at the moment I haven't cancelled.  Currently doing other projects, like my custom made arcade panel.

Nice! Do you have a link to your project? What does involve?

Well. I look forward to the day we can discuss the streaming and emulation of the S192.
In a month it might be in my hands, and that feels amazing.

I have ordered straight from JXD and hope they ship as soon as it's out of the oven.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on April 30, 2016, 08:26:13 pm
Nothing too exciting am building a custom arcade control panel


(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160430/4fbcd9e917fb75fd584384adeabc5e3b.jpg)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on April 30, 2016, 10:26:11 pm
Nothing too exciting am building a custom arcade control panel

Very nice.  Looks like the one on my Multicade, with the exception of the ball.  I'm also building a mini-bartop now running ARM Linux.  Got the parts all working.  Now just need to start on the cabinet.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on April 30, 2016, 11:14:47 pm
When it's finished it will be 2 player, with 1 rotary stick for contra/ ikari type games and a spinner top left and of course the obvious trackball. Mostly running through an ipac2 fs32.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 01, 2016, 02:06:14 am
A7mag3ddon I also ordered straight from Jxd's official store. For one it's the cheapest place to order it from. Also I heard you get a 1 year warranty free. I also paid the express shipping fee and my total is less than I would've paid using Funstock.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 01, 2016, 09:36:12 am
How much did you pay? I paid £220 Inc delivery and in UK all electrical items come with a minimum of 2yr warranty.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 01, 2016, 11:21:46 am
I payed $285 including express 3-6 day shipping. The link below is how I ordered my JD S192.

http://www.jxdofficial.com/jxd-s192-game-cosole-powered-by-nvidia-tegra-k1-2gb-ddr3-32gb-storage-black.html
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 01, 2016, 12:33:10 pm
Thanks for link but for me returning something to China is expensive from UK, plus I already paid in full 6 months ago.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 01, 2016, 12:55:04 pm
I can't wait to do a review video of my Jxd S192 vs my Nvidia Shield Portable vs my Red 64gb Gpd Xd.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on May 01, 2016, 06:10:13 pm
I'm like most people here... We all want this unit to come out regardless. I ca see everyone's point here as well. Its been an on going process or more like a tug of war between getting the unit or not. The constant delays and from the straight up lies from JXD saying that its will be available in December when this unit hasnt started production, is totally ridiculous. I don't know about you but stating that your product is "coming soon" doesnt much reassurance to those who forked over $250. I originally placed an order through gearbest.com back in November. They stated since this was on pre-order, they were not actually taking the money out until they received confirmation that  the device was ready to ship. 2 weeks before they were supposed to release the unit, gearbest.com took the money out from the account. I didn't pay no mind since it was close to the launch date. One week before they release the unit, they sent out an email that the device was going to be delayed. I believe it was for the end of feb. Of course i was upset but had no choice but to cancel. gave them another chance, no product so i canceled. Here we are again with yet another hazy release date. With all the rant rave, im still getting it; im just simply annoyed with the constant delays. jxd customer servers wont respond to anything  regarding the release of this unit.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 01, 2016, 06:45:49 pm
I'm very interested to see if the Jxd S192's 2.0ghz cpu speed makes any difference in gaming vs the Nvidia Shield   Tablet's 2.2ghz cpu speed. I also wonder if the Jxd S192's cpu is overclocked to the same 2.2ghz will it preform the same or better than the Nvidia Shield Tablet?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on May 01, 2016, 07:19:16 pm
I'm very interested to see if the Jxd S192's 2.0ghz cpu speed makes any difference in gaming vs the Nvidia Shield   Tablet's 2.2ghz cpu speed. I also wonder if the Jxd S192's cpu is overclocked to the same 2.2ghz will it preform the same or better than the Nvidia Shield Tablet?

The shield tablet will perform better, probably because of the firmware. Shield tablet runs Marshmallow and has Vulkan support, but who knows what JXD can do with the firmware seeing their previous devices...... I doubt JXD release source code anyway.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on May 01, 2016, 08:07:34 pm
I agree with Skelton...

Source code won't be out till long after the device is released. Im curious to see how well this unit performs. My gut feeling says that this unit will be released sometime in may.Because of all the delays, JXD is under pressure of releasing this unit. Additionally, the unit may not go through a proper inspection. I feel the first batch will have issues for sure. I can see a possibility of a S192b in the future. So for those early adopters, we will be the actual testers by that time hopefully GPD will release something similar with a bit better specs.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 01, 2016, 08:28:33 pm
I am looking forward to this so much. The buzz and discussion around here is also ramping up now, wich is a good sign!
I wonder how the Gamestream performance will be. A big deal for me! :)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 01, 2016, 08:37:37 pm
Source code? It runs on Android.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 01, 2016, 09:03:39 pm
Yeah. It is pretty much an Nvidia Shield Tablet with controls. Nothing ground breaking.
But it still has the potential of an amazing device.

Quality is important. I really hope that JXD will go the extra mile for the S192, and that it wont be plagued with problems.

Just a couple of weeks left until we know!  8)

First thing I will do is to play Assassins Creed: Black Flag via Gamestream. Looking forward to that moment.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 01, 2016, 09:17:47 pm
Speaking of this device. Anyone know if it has L3/R3 buttons?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on May 01, 2016, 09:30:13 pm
Source code? It runs on Android.

Yeap, and android devices run a kernel  which is different un every device. So if the kernel has bugs and jxd don't release source conde, there is no wsy to fix it. Like it happened with 7800b or prevoius devices, that jxd had to release (or leak) kernel code so that other people could fix things, like me with the 7300b or lujji with 7800b. Source code of the kernel is important. And should be released according to GPL. NVIDIA does it, so that's why there are so many ROMS and custom kernels for shield tablet.

I'll put an example, if jxd release the devices with lollipop,unless they don't release kernel source and propietary libs marshmaloow is out of the question, unless the own jxd release it.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 01, 2016, 09:46:41 pm
Ahh talking of firmware/ OS I would like one that I can do ext/int mem card swap like on the s7800. I already bought a 128gb card for my s192.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on May 01, 2016, 09:52:17 pm
Well, you can always use folder mount or if they release it with marshmallow it's not even needed (my shield tablet for example) I use folder mount in the gpd xd and it's very simple. No need for swap. The gpd q9 has swap though, but once i learned folder mount, i don't miss it anymore.

But we'll see what jxd release. I don't have much confidence in their firmware since they stopped working with softwin (the company which is gpd now)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 02, 2016, 07:53:43 pm
Do you think we´ll get mail as they start to ship it out?

It would be so nice if they were even more transparent as to where they exactly are in production-timeline.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on May 02, 2016, 08:35:26 pm
Do you think we´ll get mail as they start to ship it out?

It would be so nice if they were even more transparent as to where they exactly are in production-timeline.

I think they might. If i'm not mistaken, I believe I received an email notifying me about the order date was delayed rather than hearing about it online. Its the least they can do.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 02, 2016, 09:40:23 pm
Do you think we´ll get mail as they start to ship it out?

It would be so nice if they were even more transparent as to where they exactly are in production-timeline.

I think they might. If i'm not mistaken, I believe I received an email notifying me about the order date was delayed rather than hearing about it online. Its the least they can do.

Yeah. I think they reached out to us there.
Let's hope they do the same when it starts shipping.

If the device meets my expectations, I might buy one extra.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 03, 2016, 02:58:40 am
Siliconmessiah you have raised a very good question in asking does the Jxd S192 have clickable analog sticks aka L3 R3, as I too want to know the answer although I feel very strongly it shall.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 03, 2016, 04:55:46 am
Siliconmessiah you have raised a very good question in asking does the Jxd S192 have clickable analog sticks aka L3 R3, as I too want to know the answer although I feel very strongly it shall.

Yeah. A lot of games demand this. And it was even on the Shield Portable, so I expect it to be here too...
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 03, 2016, 07:37:00 am

It probably will, all their other consoles did, why change the hardware nubs now? wouldnt make sense.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on May 03, 2016, 01:16:30 pm
Well it looks like the unit will be released this month after all; according to JXD sales... I got an email this morning from JXD sales.



"sorry,i understand it is a long time delay,but i got a new notice,it will come out in this month,10th-15th

sales@jxdofficial.com"


I guess we will see..its not an exact date but its more than we got in the past. Much better than "coming soon"
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 03, 2016, 02:20:21 pm

It probably will, all their other consoles did, why change the hardware nubs now? wouldnt make sense.

What? The 7800 did not have l3/r3 buttons.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 03, 2016, 02:24:00 pm
Oh yeah your right, I just checked mine ha-ha. Oh well. Must have been thinking about my pi3 and 360 pad I've been setting up.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 03, 2016, 02:30:01 pm

"sorry,i understand it is a long time delay,but i got a new notice,it will come out in this month,10th-15th

sales@jxdofficial.com"


I guess we will see..its not an exact date but its more than we got in the past. Much better than "coming soon"

That is a great and positive mail! Just 2 weeks away then.
Wow, we are close now!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 03, 2016, 11:28:56 pm
I just found out some awesome news! It turns out that delays in the launch of the Jxd S192 are justified as the product was bought by Nvidia themselves! That means this is an official Nvidia product and as such I'm certain it will have L3 & R3 and be a quality game streaming gaming system.    http://androidcommunity.com/nvidias-jxd-s192-retro-gaming-tablet-now-up-for-pre-orders-in-uk-20160422/
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: vcoleiro1 on May 03, 2016, 11:44:23 pm
I just found out some awesome news! It turns out that delays in the launch of the Jxd S192 are justified as the product was bought by Nvidia themselves! That means this is an official Nvidia product and as such I'm certain it will have L3 & R3 and be a quality game streaming gaming system.    http://androidcommunity.com/nvidias-jxd-s192-retro-gaming-tablet-now-up-for-pre-orders-in-uk-20160422/

And if funstock is the source of the story, why do they list it as the JXD S192

I don't know, I think I'm going to look around to verify that story.  If they bought the rights to it, why is it called the Nvidia JXD S192.   Sounds not right.  Could be , but I think it's worth a check

Well , I saw your post on the Shield forum Elronza, that should hopefully flush out a response from Nvidia


In other news, I'm sorry people haven't got their S192 yet, after all, JXDs ad for the S192 promises "Crazy Finger Joy".  I mean, that sounds so awesome. :)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 04, 2016, 05:12:31 am
Huge news if true.

I wonder if Nividia can confirm this somehow...
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on May 05, 2016, 05:16:46 am
I'm not easily convinced. If Nvidia was behind it, I think they would at least up the 2gb ram and offer something a bit more than Android 4.2 or 4.4. I mean, doesnt the s7800b already comes with Android 4.4 out of the box? Unless I hear official word from Nvidia themselves, im not buying the story...dont get me wrong, at this point, bottom line at the end of the day, most of us will buy it including myself. This a step up from whats out in the market already..
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 05, 2016, 08:07:49 am
Me neither. I asked funstock for an update given they were supposedly the source however I'm still awaiting a reply, should be today I'd they go by their own rules of contact.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: vcoleiro1 on May 05, 2016, 08:09:38 am
Pretty sure it's not true.  It sounds like a mis communication more than anything

This line in the story is the give away that they got it wrong IMO

"NVIDIA bought the rights to manufacture the product and announced it last year"

So Nvidia announced it last year, we know that's not the case so..
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 05, 2016, 10:45:26 am
The thing is, the S192 carries official Nvidia branded parts. It´s not a random pirated machine.
It´s pretty official as it is.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 05, 2016, 11:13:51 am
I'll say this much there must be some truth to Nvidia owning the Jxd S192 because I posted the link to this same article on Nvidia's Shield Portable Geforce Forum same day I posted it here,and I haven't received a single negative reply from an official Nvidia Admin /Moderater or other Nvidia Staff Member. Also it's a well known fact that Android Kitkat is far more compatible with a wider range of games and emulators than Lollipop or Marshmallow. Not to mention Kitkat allows more games to be ported to sd. In fact people with Shield Portables and Tablets are experiencing issues with Marshmallow and Lollipop and have complaints posted in the Geforce Forums. Link posted below proving I indeed posted that Nvidia owns the Jxd S192 and no official response has been given denying said articles claim.         https://forums.geforce.com/default/board/136/
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: vcoleiro1 on May 05, 2016, 11:23:55 am
Yes , but as you yourself mentioned in that Shield thread, admins there rarely post these days.  So them not saying anything is par for the course.

As I said before, that article claims that Nvidia announced the takeover of the S192 last year. That never happened. 
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 05, 2016, 12:25:22 pm
Posting on the Nvidia board expecting a reply is just silly. I posted a genuine driver problem in Feb 2015 still awaiting a response.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: MOFO on May 05, 2016, 03:18:51 pm
If true though it's a big boost for the device, I do know from experience that at least we will get some updates for it and not totally abandoned onced ( if ever ;) ) it's released.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 05, 2016, 05:10:57 pm
I just received this update from Jxd.       

Thank you for your order firstly,
JXD S192 is now in produce on a larger quantity, and we'll send the item for you once it come out.
In general, according to the predict of our engineer, S192 will be fine on 10th-15 May.

Thank you for your understand and cooperation.


Your Sincerely,
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: AVahne on May 05, 2016, 10:28:43 pm
Yeah pretty sure that ain't true.
Sounds just like your typical everyday gaming "journalism" to me.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on May 06, 2016, 03:53:14 am
I just received this update from Jxd.       

Thank you for your order firstly,
JXD S192 is now in produce on a larger quantity, and we'll send the item for you once it come out.
In general, according to the predict of our engineer, S192 will be fine on 10th-15 May.

Thank you for your understand and cooperation.


Your Sincerely,

Was this on pre-order? Thats pretty much the response I got from Sales when I had inquired about the release date of the unit a few weeks back. May 10th - 15th date range they gave me
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 06, 2016, 07:15:10 am
Hah you guys are easily pleased with a mal formed google translate email. I still call bullshit.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 06, 2016, 07:51:55 am
Hah you guys are easily pleased with a mal formed google translate email. I still call bullshit.

Haha, what is this bullshit you are calling? You have good reason to be negative, but I find your current negativity almost funny and completely misguided.

They are informing us that the machine has started mass-producing and the date when it will be finished.
That is the most positive news we have had for months.

The machine is 1-2 weeks away, and still you call bullshit? I don't understand you.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 06, 2016, 08:07:06 am
They aren't informing, they are easeing the disgruntled masses with we/they want to hear, and that's what I'm calling bullshit. I believe it won't be out until JUNE.

I was already told May 3 or 4 weeks ago however I was also told in the same sentence it was provisional. The same as the last 4 dates were provisional and never materialised. I'm old enough to recognise stall tactics when I read it.

A properly pre planned production of a device doesn't 'slip' 6 months. Remember they were taking pre orders ders in NOV with a release date of DEC.  Even if the problems with parts were true (and I still don't believe America supplies electronics to them) 6 months is not acceptable.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 06, 2016, 09:07:59 am
With all respect to you, and the feeling that this device has dragged on for a while, we have never been closer.

I am just curious why you think they are outright lying?
I mean, the gorilla glass (for ipad) is for example made in Kentucky. Some key parts of the engine is made in Texas. And then shipped to China for assembly.


EDIT: WELP, THIS ISN`T LOOKING GOOD. HERE`S FROM FACEBOOK.

"I ordered the Singularity back in December through Gearbest and they just refunded my order. Is there a problem with production?"
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 06, 2016, 09:15:28 am
It just doesn't feel close for some reason, I'm the most positive person ever, I have JXD s7800 and was one of the first tobore order and lay in full for the s192 but after this length of time i feel like we( the pre order people) have just given the companies a 6 Month interest free bank loan and heaven forbid if something massive goes wrong and we loose all our money.

I stll have fingers crossed of course.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 06, 2016, 09:28:22 am
Well. As mass-production has started, I feel it will be hard for them to back out of it now.

I wonder where exactly my device is lying around right now, is it on the assembly line? =D
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 06, 2016, 10:42:54 am
Suave6565 yes I have already paid for my Jxd S192. I bought it April 28th.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 06, 2016, 11:24:56 am
I wish they would update the message on their official homepage too.

Right now it says that "it is in preparation for trial production".
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 06, 2016, 11:33:11 am
That's probably the most up to date status ;-)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 06, 2016, 11:40:23 am
Why is Funstock now showing June/July?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 06, 2016, 11:41:33 am
Because that's the date they told me 2 weeks ago when pushed them for a date.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 06, 2016, 11:42:04 am
If you read back a couple of my comments I pasted their response.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 06, 2016, 01:05:52 pm
Well, it should finish production at the end of next week. I think the delivery time to European resellers might take around 30 days. So my humble prediction is that we might have it in our hands sometime between 15-30 june. Totally fine by me!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 06, 2016, 01:19:32 pm
Yeah I also think mid to late June as well, of course it's nvidia conference tonight at 6pm GMT so if they announce a new hand held things my change with my order ha-ha
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 06, 2016, 01:49:24 pm
I ordered from Jxd not Funstock not to mention I paid for express shipping. So hopefully I'll have my S192 before June.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on May 06, 2016, 01:54:51 pm
Yeah I also think mid to late June as well, of course it's nvidia conference tonight at 6pm GMT so if they announce a new hand held things my change with my order ha-ha

I have to agree with a7mag3ddon and see his point regarding this back and forth release dates. The fact that they gave us a date range of 10th - 15th without a solid date, still leaves me in doubt and not to mention Nvidia hasn't mentioned any info tying them to this device. Another thing, even though some of us received emails from JXD the past couple days, they have yet to update their site status on the s192 except they are now taking pre-orders again. I have to admit, it does give a little glimmer of hope but doesn't really give me that  push to put in for the pre-order again. I actually went and purchased the GPD XD RED recently and im waiting for it to be delivered. This will temporarily stop the fever of the s192. Yeah, Im a sucker for these hand held devices and like most, I'm looking forward for the s192 release. Keeping my finger crossed!!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 06, 2016, 01:58:41 pm
To be fair tho, the s192 isn't going to be a massive improvement over the s7800 will it? I mean sure it might have a better screen, different button layouts but you won't see much improvements on emulation other than n64 and ps1 might not be quite as jerky.

And the Nvidia chip only sees big benefits when specifically programmed for it which most Emu writers will NOT do.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: vcoleiro1 on May 06, 2016, 02:13:59 pm
I think it should be noticeably better. But we will see.

For all the negative talk about JXD delivering this thing, I mus admit, it looks fricking awesome, the deisgn , the specs, everything.  Such a departure for JXD to do such a high end thing.  Let's hope it's as good as it seems and there is no quality issues . 
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 06, 2016, 02:17:18 pm
I was lucky enough to get an s7800 with the decent CPU so that's why I think it won't be a massive jump. The later versions had the locked T chip fitted.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on May 06, 2016, 04:20:58 pm
To be fair tho, the s192 isn't going to be a massive improvement over the s7800 will it? I mean sure it might have a better screen, different button layouts but you won't see much improvements on emulation other than n64 and ps1 might not be quite as jerky.

And the Nvidia chip only sees big benefits when specifically programmed for it which most Emu writers will NOT do.

I have a shield tablet and emulation wise the k1 is much better than RK3188 from 7800b. Android games run much better.
Saturn emulation for example in shield tablet is quite good. PPSSPP runs much better. Comparing it with the RK3288 of the GPD devices difference is not so high, but with the RK3188 the difference is noticeable.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on May 06, 2016, 05:37:11 pm
I guess time will tell. Regardless the negative talks about it, the way I see it, its a definite improvement. As to how much improvement we don't know. I would be nice if the delays were caused by certain changes that will improve the device, if that's the case, im pretty sure that JXD will gain the confidence to customers who doubted them and canceled their order. Wishful thinking I know, but at this point we can only speculate what the device is capable of based on what they have on their site. Things can change during testing if they have done that already.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 06, 2016, 06:17:05 pm

I wonder if there will be any decent carry cases for the S192, i really hope so because i had to make my own custom one for the S7800b and the S192 is too big to fit in it.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 06, 2016, 06:21:00 pm
Talking of console power Skelton, didnt JXD release some kind of benchmarking tests results for the S192 a bit back? i cant find it now but perhaps you can run it on your shield and post the results so we can compare real world results?

EDIT : / Found it...

Scoring 49,000 points in the AnTuTu Benchmark and 29,000+ in 3DMark Unlimited, the S192 is able to run games at 60 frames per second and supports special gaming effects like PhysX, HDR and ambient occlusion.

Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 06, 2016, 06:40:22 pm
oh nevermind the shield tablet scores 85K + :-(
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on May 06, 2016, 06:53:38 pm
Talking of console power Skelton, didnt JXD release some kind of benchmarking tests results for the S192 a bit back? i cant find it now but perhaps you can run it on your shield and post the results so we can compare real world results?

EDIT : / Found it...

Scoring 49,000 points in the AnTuTu Benchmark and 29,000+ in 3DMark Unlimited, the S192 is able to run games at 60 frames per second and supports special gaming effects like PhysX, HDR and ambient occlusion.

My shield tablet scores about 95000 in antutu latest version. But Antutu gives much more importance to 3d lately so that doesn't mean that performs twice better than a device that sccores 42000 (like my GPd XD). In fact, except saturn and some PSP games, everything runs pretty much the same in my GPD XD and my shield tablet, in fact I don't use shield tablet for gaming because it's too big for me. And of the tegra exclusive titles, Trine 2 is the only one I play.

Have in mind that shield tablet is very optimized and runs Android 6.0.1, even they have included Vulkan support. but I doubt JXd release it with Android 6.0 or Vulkan, I am always too reticent about JXD firmwares based on their previous devices.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 07, 2016, 11:00:21 am
For those wondering yes the Jxd S192 supports both Geforce Now and Gamestream. Its listed in its specs.    http://m.jxd.hk/game-console-m/s192/s192-specs/           
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 07, 2016, 11:37:12 am
For those wondering yes the Jxd S192 supports both Geforce Now and Gamestream. Its listed in its specs.    http://m.jxd.hk/game-console-m/s192/s192-specs/         

Yep. Thought as much, as it has Nvidia K1 and pretty much is a shield tablet witch attached controls.

That said. My primary (only?) use of the machine will be Gamestreaming from my GTX 980.
And also playing games on Geforce NOW.

I have the s7800 and Shield Portable for emulation.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 09, 2016, 05:52:39 pm
I plan on making my S192 into the ultimate portable gaming handheld by loading it up with emulators, roms,and Android/Shield exclusives. I will also be using it for Geforce Now and Gamestream more so than my Shield Portable because of both it's larger screen and higher resolution. Oh yeah best buy is having a sell on memory cards. I ordered this 200gbs one to put in the Jxd S192 when it arrives for added storage. My sd card is due to arrive Wednesday.       http://www.bestbuy.com/site/sandisk-ultra-200gb-microsdxc-class-10-uhs-i-memory-card-black/6330207.p?id=1219661891262&skuId=6330207
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 09, 2016, 06:04:52 pm
I plan on making my S192 into the ultimate portable gaming handheld by loading it up with emulators, roms,and Android/Shield exclusives. I will also be using it for Geforce Now and Gamestream more so than my Shield Portable because of both it's larger screen and higher resolution. Oh yeah best buy is having a sell on memory cards. I ordered this 200gbs one to put in the Jxd S192 when it arrives for added storage. My sd card is due to arrive Wednesday.       http://www.bestbuy.com/site/sandisk-ultra-200gb-microsdxc-class-10-uhs-i-memory-card-black/6330207.p?id=1219661891262&skuId=6330207

Nice! Wasn't we told that we would get some kind of surprise gift because of the delay? Or am I remembering wrong?

Anyway. It's the 10:th of May tomorrow. The JXD s192 should be out of the manufacturing plant any of these days!

 8) ...believe!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on May 09, 2016, 06:46:25 pm
I'm thinking of taking the plunge this time and actually pre-order again but once they change their status on their site. I was soo upset about the first cancellation that I canceled my order... I just got the GPD XD Red and its keeping me at bay for now. So ill fork over 269.00 this week. if they make some sort of announcement with a REAL release date.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 09, 2016, 07:00:53 pm
I too own the 64gb Red Gpd Xd and the Nvidia Shield Portable, but am still looking forward to the Jxd S192. The Jxd S192's are supposed to start shipping out between tomorrow May 10th-15th.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 09, 2016, 07:10:54 pm
Yeah. This week is the week that the s192 should be released and ready for shipping out.
I wish I could take a sneak peek into the plant to see exactly where they are in the process.

I really doubt they can afford another delay. It would be devastating for them as a company.

INTERESTING: It now says "Availability: In stock" on their homepage.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 09, 2016, 08:15:21 pm
For those wondering yes the Jxd S192 supports both Geforce Now and Gamestream. Its listed in its specs.    http://m.jxd.hk/game-console-m/s192/s192-specs/         

Yep. Thought as much, as it has Nvidia K1 and pretty much is a shield tablet witch attached controls.

That said. My primary (only?) use of the machine will be Gamestreaming from my GTX 980.
And also playing games on Geforce NOW.

I have the s7800 and Shield Portable for emulation.
The s7800 supports nvidia game streaming I've used it, install a program called limelight (might have change name) works ok over WiFi. I tested with gauntlet and crysis 3
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on May 09, 2016, 08:20:50 pm
Hopefully...

If they would have another delay, I really doubt JXD would suffer. Sure there will be some who will back out and not purchase it but once JXD releases it, those who backed out before will be the first ones to be back and buy one. With so much anticipation for this device and non out there to compete with the s192, people have no choice but to wait and complain; I include myself. I honestly think if there were another device on the market with similar specs as the s192, JXD will change their tune. right now, they know nothing is out in the horizons that can threaten their device.Our curiosity is getting the best of us and we are finding ourselves venting off in this forum..(Which I think is awsome by the way!)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 09, 2016, 08:31:21 pm
I wholeheartedly agree. This forum is awesome in the anticipation for the s192. It's great to share stories and build up for the arrival. We are not the largest of communities, but it feels great to be a part of it. You are all nice. ;D

And I also hope our patience pays of this week.
If there is another delay after this week however, I will cancel my order and use the money for upgrading my computer.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 09, 2016, 09:03:44 pm
A7mag3ddon Nvida Gamestream and Geforce Now exclusive to Nvidia hardware. Also Nvidia Gamestream is vastly better than Limelight.         

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://shield.nvidia.com/game-stream&ved=0ahUKEwja07qW483MAhUHmh4KHf0SDVcQFggbMAA&usg=AFQjCNEo--f0mfuX6TISfJgSTQMu0n0Hxw&sig2=xi7bG4cgn6YRI9cZ-U2zzw

https://shield.nvidia.com/game-stream
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 09, 2016, 09:05:26 pm
It's always been Nvidia exclusive. Limelight still works for me.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 09, 2016, 09:09:36 pm
A7mag3ddon Nvida Gamestream and Geforce Now exclusive to Nvidia hardware. Also Nvidia Gamestream is vastly better than Limelight.         

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://shield.nvidia.com/game-stream&ved=0ahUKEwja07qW483MAhUHmh4KHf0SDVcQFggbMAA&usg=AFQjCNEo--f0mfuX6TISfJgSTQMu0n0Hxw&sig2=xi7bG4cgn6YRI9cZ-U2zzw

https://shield.nvidia.com/game-stream

Limelight (nowadays Moonlight) makes use of the Gamestream technology. And as Nvidia has fiddled around with compatibility-issues, Moonlight has been preferred by a lot of Nvidia-users.

I am all for the official stuff however. More convenient and easy to use.

As for streaming with the s7800b. Yes. It works. But the lack of L3/R3 buttons makes stuff very iffy to use.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 09, 2016, 09:11:34 pm
Agreed it's not great but you can plug in a USB mouse that helps. Or use Tincore keymapper to emulate mouse / keyboard.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 09, 2016, 09:58:13 pm
All I was saying is that it's obvious that the Jxd S192 is going to be recognized as an Nvidia Shield device by Pc's/Laptop's and Nvidia Geforce Now. Also Nvidia's Gamestream supports remotely playing your games from afar. Also the Jxd S192 supports 5ghz routers. And Geforce Now is like the Netflix of gaming. If you buy a game using Geforce Now you get a Steam key for the game also.

 https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=6&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiq3cHI8M3MAhUGXB4KHSQ7ASkQtwIISDAF&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DyislfXxSjpA&usg=AFQjCNGyGoomsikX3xv3zO6-ImS7oN_zqg&sig2=tWDl6i6XfhLCAFs1DcG30Q&bvm=bv.121421273,d.dmo
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 09, 2016, 09:58:53 pm
https://shield.nvidia.com/game-streaming-with-geforce-now
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siegel17701 on May 10, 2016, 12:51:32 am
The 10th is approaching, any news

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Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 10, 2016, 05:11:49 am
The 10th is approaching, any news

Their chief engineer said the S192 would be ready for shipping between the 10th and the 15th.
Given the track record of this device, I would expect an update at the end of the week.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 10, 2016, 09:02:04 am
If there's no update by the end of the week I'm afraid I'm out, I want a gtx 1080 with oculus instead now.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 10, 2016, 09:32:58 am
If there's no update by the end of the week I'm afraid I'm out, I want a gtx 1080 with oculus instead now.

Yeah. Same here.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 10, 2016, 09:55:42 am
Oh there's an update alright. In fact there's a few updates. First off they have gone up on the price of the Jxd S192 starting at $339.00. And you get a 4 meter HDMI as a free gift. It appears that they have gone mad after figuring out that they are the only ones offering an Nvidia all in one device with the Tegra K1. The only good news is that they have no choice but to put the device in peoples hands soon for people to see reviews and multiple videos of it in action, otherwise there's no way someone is dumping $339.00 on something there's no reviews of.

http://www.jxdofficial.com/jxd-s192-game-cosole-powered-by-nvidia-tegra-k1-2gb-ddr3-32gb-storage-black.html
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 10, 2016, 10:09:40 am
I'm not paying extra 100 no way.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: vcoleiro1 on May 10, 2016, 10:12:13 am
Are they asking you guys to pay the extra, or are they honoring the $269 you guys paid?



Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 10, 2016, 10:14:03 am
I've heard nothing from JXD or the company I pre ordered from wth any real updates since Dec. I'm going to phone and ask now. Email is too slow.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 10, 2016, 10:17:28 am
They haven't asked me to pay extra. I pre-ordered. I think that $339.00 is the price of the Jxd S192 from now on. I personally wouldn't pay that much for it.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 10, 2016, 10:24:53 am
They haven't asked "yet". How can they say it's got stuff FREE with it when they jacked up the price so high 2$ HDMI doesn't justify that costs
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 10, 2016, 10:31:28 am
Jxd can keep their HDMI as I have one already and Google Chromecast also. I already payed $285.00 which includes express shipping, and I'll not pay a penny more!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 10, 2016, 10:41:21 am
Let's see I payed $285 for the Jxd S192 and express shipping. And bought a 200gb $85 micro sd for the S192. So I'm already $370.00 into the Jxd S192. Yeah there's no way I'm parting with anymore of my money.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 10, 2016, 10:46:07 am
Ha-ha. I didn't go as far as 200GB but I did buy 2 x 128gb for my pi3 and S192
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 10, 2016, 11:02:47 am
Nah. Pre-order price that we paid will stay. That is legitimate how you do business.
However, if you buy now, the new price will stay.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 10, 2016, 11:19:59 am
Correct! I asked and funstock said it would honour the pre order price which is great news for all of us.

Back along JXD said they would give out free SD cards, wonder if they will or the cable is now the freebie.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 10, 2016, 11:21:44 am
That is great to hear Armageddon!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on May 10, 2016, 12:44:26 pm
These people are insane...I also checked the site to see if there were any updates and to my surprise, the price went up $70.00 on a device that still hasnt been released... I don't know, but this is poor marketing on their part...Yes it probably means that it will release soon but at state an official date..

If I were JXD, I would've  indicated that the price will go up after a certain confirmed date, try to get as many pre-orders in then have a cut off date once I know FOR sure that the device will be released. It doesn't cost them a dime to change the wording on their website...its the lack of communication to the consumer. although I made the jump right before the price went up, Its still not fair for the price to go up imo... There's other sites and ebay who are charging ridiculous amount and they make it seem that they already have it!!

I emailed one in ebay and asked if it were in stock, they came back and told me they sold the last one...and this is another company in china..
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 10, 2016, 12:47:36 pm
I emailed one in ebay and asked if it were in stock, they came back and told me they sold the last one...and this is another company in china..

I wonder if there already is one or more batches floating out there?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 10, 2016, 12:55:08 pm
I highly doubt there are any batches. And the price has gone up because during their trial run I am expect they found something out that has ended up costing more money to make it.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siegel17701 on May 10, 2016, 01:11:36 pm
Yesterday geekbuying.com had it listed $299 pre order, today $339.

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Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on May 10, 2016, 01:36:39 pm
I highly doubt there are any batches. And the price has gone up because during their trial run I am expect they found something out that has ended up costing more money to make it.

I dont buy it...supposedly, the cost should've been allocated already and the delay was for something else. then again, if their business practices are the same as fly by the seat of our pants mentality as they have been with these units release date, then maybe..

To be brutally honest and not to offend anyone in anyway, but I have come to not trust Chinese companies. they seem to have a bad reputation for bad business ethics and less then perfect products with little to no warranty. But they have the right idea for a potentially good product which seems to outweigh these flaws. I purchased an android radio for my car which had a ton of features than the stock and hi-end after market radio like Kenwood and and Pioneer at the fraction of the cost.

One week into the radio, there seemed to be an issue with sound quality. After troubleshooting and firmware updates with the manufacture, I was told I had to return it for a new one with an updated chip at no cost...Great!! then I get the instruction how to ship it and not put express as shipping... it turns out that if I had done that, they would get charged for the shipping at a higher cost. Instead I had to use the cheapest form of sending it which took about almost 2 months and the cost is on me.. over  $50.00 that was non-refundable. I asked why I had to send it this was and they told me that they would get the charge. I wanted to cancel but I had already sold my stock radio so I had no choice. I was lucky that the guy I was dealing with made sure that the radio shipping back had been tested thoroughly.  God forbid you have to return a device purchased through China, they would never eat up the shipping cost for a return. They are plain greedy. I'm hoping that this batch comes off without a hitch at least minor without having to return.. We are basically the first to test them and will find out the flaws. Only time will tell.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siegel17701 on May 10, 2016, 01:40:48 pm
I highly doubt there are any batches. And the price has gone up because during their trial run I am expect they found something out that has ended up costing more money to make it.

I dont buy it...supposedly, the cost should've been allocated already and the delay was for something else. then again, if their business practices are the same as fly by the seat of our pants mentality as they have been with these units release date, then maybe..

To be brutally honest and not to offend anyone in anyway, but I have come to not trust Chinese companies. they seem to have a bad reputation for bad business ethics and less then perfect products with little to no warranty. I purchased an android radio for my car which had a ton of features than the stock and hi-end after market radio like Kenwood and and Pioneer at the fraction of the cost.

One week into the radio, there seemed to be n issue with sound quality. After troubleshooting and firmware updates with the manufacture, I was told I had to return it for a new one with an updated chip at no cost...Great!! then I get the instruction how to ship it and not put express... it turns out that if I had done that, they would get charged for the shipping. Instead I had to use the cheapest form of sending it and the cost is on me.. over  $50.00 that was non-refundable. I asked why I had to send it this was and they told me that they would get the charge. I wanted to cancel but I had already sold my stock radio so I had no choice. I was lucky that the guy I was dealing with made sure that the radio shipping back had tested the new radio thoroughly.  God forbid you have to return a device purchased through China, they would never eat up the shipping cost for a return. They a plain greedy. I'm hoping that this batch comes off without a hitch.. We are basically the first to test them and will find out the flaws. Only time will tell.
You can't kill all companies because of one bad product. I have bought a few products from GPD and JXD never had a problem. Like all things, sometimes you get a dud

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Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on May 10, 2016, 01:55:45 pm
Not at all but this seems to be across the board with Chinese companies...funny that you mentioned GPD, a friend of mine had to ship back his unit this past weekend at his cost... The device was not taking any updates even manually so they suggested to send the unit back for a new one.  No RMA or return shipping labels..

Just this past Christmas, my wife got me a drone with a camera. after getting the drone, turns out that I got mine without the camera. It was a model lower and after sending pictures they offered an exchange at my cost either a full refund for store credit or partial refund.. I opted for partial since the drone still worked. this was through gearbest.com

My point is, that they don't have something in place where its not the customer fault and without having to fork over additional money for a product that should've been working in the first place. I completely understand that things do happen and I get it..


I mean, am I wrong for thinking this way?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 10, 2016, 03:37:07 pm
This is why the day for shipment cannot come soon enough, so we can compare, submit our reviews and try it out!  ;D
I hope my JXD is signed, sealed and shipped from China this week!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 10, 2016, 03:53:17 pm
Jeez here in the UK your contract is with the supplier which is why I never buy direct from China, if a unit packs up 2 days back to funstock who have to send me a new one haha. Of course it's UK/ EU law that permits this had I bought direct from HK / CH then I have whatever warranty they give me. UK = 3 yrs
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 10, 2016, 03:55:37 pm
I'm looking forward to doing a review and comparison between the Jxd S192 vs the Nvidia Shield Portable vs the Gpd Xd. I actually think because Jxd has made handhelds for some years now,that this will prove to be a quality device.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 10, 2016, 04:03:48 pm
I'm looking forward to doing a review and comparison between the Jxd S192 vs the Nvidia Shield Portable vs the Gpd Xd. I actually think because Jxd has made handhelds for some years now,that this will prove to be a quality device.

Yeah. I have confidence in this one. Seems different than the other stuff.
And it is no rip-off as it contains original parts from Nvidia.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 10, 2016, 10:28:04 pm
A7mag3ddon is on point with the price increase! Think about it most of these Android gaming devices use parts made and produced in China like Alwinner and RockChip. The Jxd S192 on the other hand is using Gorilla Glass made in the USA and Nvidia Tegra parts also made in the USA.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 11, 2016, 02:14:19 pm
IT SEEMS TO FINALLY BE RELEASED!

No more 'coming soon' on the homepage.
JXD forum opened with a lot of Q & A.

http://www.jxd.hk/questions/
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 11, 2016, 02:36:15 pm
It looks like JXD are asking the questions as well as answering their own questions, this normal?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 11, 2016, 02:37:25 pm
It looks like JXD are asking the questions as well as answering their own questions, this normal?

Haha...saw that too.
Love the 'my battery has fever'-part. ;D

Probably because it has not yet arrived to anyone yet.
Nice with the l3/r3 thing though.
And also they are using Sony-parts for the control sticks.

I wonder what kind of thing we have bought? Might be good, might be awful.
In time we'll see...
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on May 11, 2016, 04:05:54 pm

Battery has fever is a common expression for "device is hot as hell". I remember when 7300B came out, that was the favourite comment, and with a reason, I never had a device so hot during use as the 7300B. We had to diminish voltages in kernel so that device wouldn't explode, because you could fry en egg with it.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 11, 2016, 05:07:16 pm
Mm so now Samsung has unveiled its new 256GB micro SD card today, hopefully the 200GB offerings will come down in price, just in time for the S192.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 11, 2016, 05:09:36 pm
If JXD are using sony sticks I wonder if they are the same as found on ps3 pads, or too big?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 11, 2016, 05:40:19 pm
Holdup PlayStation analogs, Nvidia hardware and software, and Gorilla-Glass; well this is defiantly not the normal  Chinese junk handheld lol.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 11, 2016, 07:38:56 pm
Holdup PlayStation analogs, Nvidia hardware and software, and Gorilla-Glass; well this is defiantly not the normal  Chinese junk handheld lol.

Exactly.
And things are surely happening now. I would love to see some more videos, now that they surely got more devices made.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 11, 2016, 08:14:43 pm
Well if the rumours were/ are true then it will be shipping at the end of the week. 
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 11, 2016, 08:21:03 pm
Well if the rumours were/ are true then it will be shipping at the end of the week.

Yep. That is what they expected, and right now it seems things might be happening.

If we get another delay or no update at the end of this week, I will be very disappointed.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 11, 2016, 08:23:17 pm
Update my SanDisk Ultra 200gb micro sdxc has arrived and works perfectly on both my Nvidia Shield Portable and my Red 64gb Gpd Xd. With the Shield Portable all I had to do was go to settings and erase sd. After that it was done and showed 183gb's of usable storage. With my Gpd Xd it recognized the memory card the instant I installed it. Now I just need my Jxd S192 that I bought this card for.     

 http://www.bestbuy.com/site/sandisk-ultra-200gb-microsdxc-class-10-uhs-i-memory-card-black/6330207.p?id=1219661891262&skuId=6330207&cmp=RMX&ref=17&loc=11&CampaignID=789277&SubscriberID=415042240
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 11, 2016, 08:26:32 pm
Nice Elronza!

Yeah, a simple 'Now shipping'-message on their homepage/twitter and maybe an e-mail would be nice.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 11, 2016, 08:28:30 pm
I would have hoped out respective suppliers to email us as well, that guy on Facebook who was refunded is going to pissed. He will have to pay full price now.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 11, 2016, 08:30:26 pm
I would have hoped out respective suppliers to email us as well, that guy on Facebook who was refunded is going to pissed. He will have to pay full price now.

Yeah, one could expect that.

Yep. But sometimes patience pays off.  8)

I wonder whom of us will get theirs first... ;D
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 11, 2016, 08:32:36 pm
I almost got a refund this week.

But let's not breakout the champagne yet, we still have the same info we had on Monday just a few Q&A on a website.

An official statement would be nice about now. I think Friday will be the announcement day.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 11, 2016, 08:33:54 pm
You are absolutely right Armageddon. No champagne yet...
Friday is a good bet.

I am totally with you on a refund if it gets delayed again.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 12, 2016, 04:33:58 am
Great news we will start receiving Jxd S192's on the 15th for sure. And those that don't receive them on or about's the 15th will get theirs at the end of this month! Here's the message I just received from Jxd.


sales@jxdofficial.com
10:55 PM (34 minutes ago)

to me
please pay for more patient to wait it,you can send an email after 15th.if we don't ship out,it will be delay in the end of this month,thanks for your understand.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 12, 2016, 05:10:43 am
Great news we will start receiving Jxd S192's on the 15th for sure. And those that don't receive them on or about's the 15th will get theirs at the end of this month! Here's the message I just received from Jxd.


sales@jxdofficial.com
10:55 PM (34 minutes ago)

to me
please pay for more patient to wait it,you can send an email after 15th.if we don't ship out,it will be delay in the end of this month,thanks for your understand.

Ehm? I read that mail as that you should get back to them by e-mail by the 15th to get a definite answer. And that the device is delayed once more, to the end of May...hence the 'be more patient' and 'please understand'-part.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on May 12, 2016, 02:09:38 pm
Here's an email I got today... and as a7mag3ddon said, lets not breakout the champagne yet...

First my answer to my question about the cost hike..

Hi,thanks for your attention S192.because S192 cost has been rising,we changed some high quality materal.hope you can understand
good days.

The reply on an exact date of release..

i think it will be shipped out in this this month,thanks for your patient

sales@jxdofficial.com

I'm not holding my breath  for the 15th.. there might be some logistics involved but if they honestly knew the release date, they would've updated their site already and sent out emails. They would be celebrating themselves... if you read the email from Elronza Williams Jr that he received, doesn't really convincingly say it would ship out on the 15th.. It almost sounds like they are not sure themselves. They want us to check in with them after the 15th to see if it had shipped if not, they are looking at another 2 weeks if it doesn't. Since I have dealt with JXD before, they actually send you a a tracking number for the package once the device ships... Why check with them after the 15th?

 Im guessing they are getting a lot of pressure and emails about the release date and they can't seem to give us one.

My other guess and this is just a guess... There may have been a good amount of cancellations due to the uncertain release date which brought the unit price up... Since this may be a game changer unit to JXD (Maybe Game Changer is too strong of words) Anyway, they didn't anticipate additional costs or simply didn't make their projected revenue to cover everything to get this unit shipped. They are close but by how much, I don't know. They need to hold on to those who kept their per-orders until now..Another delay, may result in more cancellations.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 12, 2016, 02:14:41 pm
This is such a farce if it gets even more delayed after this week.
Count me in as cancelled if so.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on May 12, 2016, 02:15:41 pm
Geekbuying has the JDX on their latest mailing, and are advertising it as a "New Release".  I've already filed a Paypal claim against Geekbuying for mine, since they stopped responding to my emails a couple months ago, so I don't think I will be getting one.  Just too much worry for a device like this. 

http://newsletter.newsletterspace.com/x/?S7Y1.J9ra2Lxv8jW3NjCzOh.jq2JAQAA48&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=EDM&utm_content=&utm_campaign=DMWEB_20160512
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 12, 2016, 03:02:46 pm
Meh... don't care for a week now as this just arrived today :-P


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Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on May 12, 2016, 03:09:39 pm
Mine is still on preorder. :-(

Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on May 12, 2016, 04:00:20 pm
a7mag3ddon has the right idea... Thankfully I have the GPD XD RED to keep me distracted for bit until they actually decide to get their act together and ship this thing. I have to give them credit, at  least they are consistent... Let down after let down.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 12, 2016, 04:08:22 pm
Ha-ha. Yes total let down.

I'm too scared to cancel now the price has gone up.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on May 12, 2016, 04:53:30 pm
Geekbuying has the JDX on their latest mailing, and are advertising it as a "New Release".  I've already filed a Paypal claim against Geekbuying for mine, since they stopped responding to my emails a couple months ago, so I don't think I will be getting one.  Just too much worry for a device like this. 

http://newsletter.newsletterspace.com/x/?S7Y1.J9ra2Lxv8jW3NjCzOh.jq2JAQAA48&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=EDM&utm_content=&utm_campaign=DMWEB_20160512

They make me laugh.... They only have 50 PCs left. Terrible
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on May 12, 2016, 04:57:48 pm
They make me laugh.... The only have 50 PCs left. Terrible

I think they mean that the coupon is limited only to 50 uses.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on May 12, 2016, 07:09:13 pm
Got it...but they still make me laugh
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 12, 2016, 07:25:16 pm
I bet that on the 15:th, we will get the message:

"Thank you for your support and patience. The JXD S192 is delayed again. It will ship at the end of May."

and then...at the end of May, for those that still believe:

"Thank you for your support and patience. The JXD S192 is now delayed but will be finished and ready for shipping in August."

And then...at the end of August:

"Thank you for your support and patience. The JXD S192 is now delayed but will be delivered to you at the end of the year."
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on May 12, 2016, 08:16:18 pm
I bet that on the 15:th, we will get the message:

"Thank you for your support and patience. The JXD S192 is delayed again. It will ship at the end of May."

and then...at the end of May, for those that still believe:

"Thank you for your support and patience. The JXD S192 is now delayed but will be finished and ready for shipping in August."

And then...at the end of August:

"Thank you for your support and patience. The JXD S192 is now delayed but will be delivered to you at the end of the year."


That was classic and the funny thing is...this could actually happen. at this rate, this unit will be considered obsolete by the time they release it.... I wish GPD or some other company would release a device better than this.. For sure you'll see them put out this unit  in fear a customer hemorrhage. The would certainly take a huge hit but as I mentioned before, they have no threat and they are probably reading now saying..

"wanna see an dummy in suspense? tell them the JXD S192 is delayed.....again!!"
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 12, 2016, 08:40:33 pm
Yeah. Time is not on the side of JXD s192.
I think there will be a portable equivalent of the Tegra the coming year.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 12, 2016, 10:01:30 pm
I'll state this now a Tegra X1 handheld lunches that is an all in one device and is the same ram and rom as the Jxd S192 or better and my order will be cancelled asap!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: vcoleiro1 on May 13, 2016, 12:39:48 am
Well I hope it's as good as it seems for you guys, after all this waiting , you deserve some happiness out of all this
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on May 13, 2016, 12:44:44 am
I'll state this now a Tegra X1 handheld lunches that is an all in one device and is the same ram and rom as the Jxd S192 or better and my order will be cancelled asap!

I've got the Pixel C, and the X1 is amazingly fast.  I'd love a gaming handheld with it.  I have the Shield TV box also, and while it is the fastest tv box I have, it really doesn't showcase the speed of the X1 like the Pixel C does.  Now that Nvidia may be releasing a new Shield Tablet, I'm pretty excited that there may be another X1 tablet coming with gaming in its design.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 13, 2016, 01:50:40 am
Well Jxd needs to get their act together because it looks like Nvidia is soon to launch a Shield Tablet with the Tegra X1 and 3gbs of ram. While I greatly prefer an all in one device I'd bite the bullet on a Shield Tablet with the Tegra X1.   http://www.droidgamers.com/index.php/tablet-gaming/hardware-and-devices/11179-new-nvidia-shield-tablet-spotted-at-the-fcc-may-be-coming-with-a-tegra-x1
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on May 13, 2016, 03:36:01 am
Well Jxd needs to get their act together because it looks like Nvidia is soon to launch a Shield Tablet with the Tegra X1 and 3gbs of ram. While I greatly prefer an all in one device I'd bite the bullet on a Shield Tablet with the Tegra X1.   http://www.droidgamers.com/index.php/tablet-gaming/hardware-and-devices/11179-new-nvidia-shield-tablet-spotted-at-the-fcc-may-be-coming-with-a-tegra-x1

According to the article:
"Interestingly enough, this person also says that the device will be coming with the Tegra X1, which would make sense since releasing a third tablet without a chipset upgrade would be weird. Other noteable features rumored for this device by the same person include  3GB of RAM, 32GB of storage, and a screen resolution of 1920x1200. All of this should be taken with a grain of salt of course."

While I hope this is correct, I will wait and see.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 13, 2016, 07:11:51 am

Thats a tablet thoughk, nothing "gaming" about it. There are loads of decent tablets out there.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 13, 2016, 07:23:01 am

One thing i think is weird, JXD in their wisdom said, either tablet released 15th or depending how you read it, get back to us on the 15th.

Inst 15th a Sunday!? Dunno about china but jack shit happens in the uk Sat/ Sun. how they going to ship it on a weekend.

The company i pre-ordered with has stop replying now, and i didnt send them loads of messages only about 4 in the last 6 months asking for an update.

Things are not looking good again i dont think, after the initial buzz of them putting the price up and putting up basic Q & A

Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on May 13, 2016, 08:45:33 am

Thats a tablet thoughk, nothing "gaming" about it. There are loads of decent tablets out there.
The Shield line is a gaming line.  Just like the Shield Tablet is a gaming tablet, so will this be.  They pair wirelessly (wifi) to an almost non-lag controller, and have game streaming services for PC and gaming services.  They also have built in controller mapping.

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Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 13, 2016, 08:51:19 am
By gaming. I mean built in controls, talking of streaming I was testing Remotr on Android and Pc. Full speed game streaming any app. Check it out.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 13, 2016, 10:35:13 am
I'll say this while yes I own an Nvidia Shield Portable that will be placed back on Kitkat because of the well known issues of Lollipop with the Shield Portable. And a Red 64gb Gpd Xd that works perfectly on Kitkat. Which is one of the reasons I keep telling people both android Lollipop and Marshmallow have less games supported and emulators and have some serious issues with gaming handhelds, but yet everyone keeps wanting the newest android version smfh! Both an Asus Rog G46vw with a Gtx 660m and an Alienware 18 with Sli Gtx 880m's. Not to mention 2 desktops. I bought the Jxd S192 because of its all in one form and it being only slightly less powerful than the Shield Tablet due to cpu at 2.0ghz's vs 2.2ghz's, and let's be honest the S192 is hella sexy!  And because of it having a bigger screen than the Shield Portable and Gpd Xd. I took Jxd's reply to me meaning if the S192 wasn't shipped or shipping number given by the 15th to message them. And if all else it would be shipped end of the month. While $285 isn't a lot of money. Heck my Alienware cost over $4500 when I bought it brand new. I don't like the thought of me having paid for a product in full and it sitting in limbo!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: PeteSco on May 13, 2016, 03:45:10 pm
Love the huge display. Waiting to see some real pics!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on May 13, 2016, 09:48:58 pm

One thing i think is weird, JXD in their wisdom said, either tablet released 15th or depending how you read it, get back to us on the 15th.

Inst 15th a Sunday!? Dunno about china but jack shit happens in the uk Sat/ Sun. how they going to ship it on a weekend.

The company i pre-ordered with has stop replying now, and i didnt send them loads of messages only about 4 in the last 6 months asking for an update.

Things are not looking good again i dont think, after the initial buzz of them putting the price up and putting up basic Q & A

It actually states to contact them after the 15th to see if it had shipped. If that's the case, im assuming they would've shipped it yesterday (based on time zone) technically, Its Saturday for them now but as I stated before,  why would you need to check with them after the 15th if you get a tracking notification email once the device has shipped?? At this point I haven't received anything...so the way I see it, decoded their email b#llshit.


This Is how is really translated:

Original email sent to:
Elronza Williams Jr.

please pay for more patient to wait it,you can send an email after 15th.if we don't ship out,it will be delay in the end of this month,thanks for your understand.


Decoded Message:

please pay for more patient to wait it,you can send an email after 15th (So that we can tell you again that its delayed).if we don't ship out (Guess What, Its DELAYED),it will be delay in the end of this month or (the 32nd of Neverwaury) ,thanks for your understand.


Elronza Williams Jr., this is not against you for the record.... Im just tired of JXD's Maga BS
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 13, 2016, 10:09:19 pm
Trust me I too am fed up with their B&S! Jxd needs to quit playing games get the spidermonkeys off the keyboards and just tell us the straight up truth! The S192 was supposed to have been released May 6th when I pre-ordered it on April 28th.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 14, 2016, 01:39:54 am
I just sent this message to Jxd whom I ordered directly from. I will post their response also here.   


Good evening look I'm not being mean but I paid in full for my Jxd S192 that was supposed to be ready May 6th. Now you say to wait until after the 15th if it isn't here by the 15th which it won't be as the 15th is Sunday and no one delivers on Sunday. I don't even have a shipping number. I just want to know truly when can I expect my Jxd S192. Or should I just get my refund if it's going to be some months from now.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on May 14, 2016, 05:43:57 am
Trust me I too am fed up with their B&S! Jxd needs to quit playing games get the spidermonkeys off the keyboards and just tell us the straight up truth! The S192 was supposed to have been released May 6th when I pre-ordered it on April 28th.

Some of us, like me, preordered ours last November, when the release date was December.  We were fed up in February.  You at least ordered yours directly.  I ordered from Geekbuying, and haven't received a single response from them in a couple months, and I've sent them multiple emails.  That's why I've finally gone to Paypal to try and get my money back.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 14, 2016, 07:12:20 am
Heh fed up after 2 weeks :-P
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 14, 2016, 07:36:43 am
Well...tomorrow is the 15:th. We are at the planned date for shipping!
I have my doubts anything will happen tomorrow, as it´s sunday.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 14, 2016, 10:17:24 am
I would have been a bit hopeful if it had been a normal working day, but sunday!? please no one  works on a sunday.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 14, 2016, 11:07:02 am
LordDavon sorry to hear of whats happened to you trust me I myself came very close to ordering the S192 the very first time it was up for pre-order,had it not been for me being burned in the past.  A7mag3ddon the only reason I didn't pre-order the Jxd S192 sooner was because I got burnt in the past for supporting Project Phoenix which was fully funded 10x what their goal was,and was supposed to have released in 2013 now I'm looking at 2018 before I possibly receive my autographed game and T-shirt $450 in limbo.    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Phoenix_(video_game)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 14, 2016, 11:42:07 am
In the best of worlds, the S192 is packed up, ready to ship on monday. And we get our tracking numbers and a message.
Another option is that we get a message on monday that the device is delayed until the end of May. (Most likely as it seems right now...)

As it is saturday/sunday, manufacturing is most probably not happening currently, so it´s either ready or it´s not.

I don´t think remaining silent is an option for JXD.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 14, 2016, 03:24:24 pm
In an ideal world we would have spent the last 6 months playing on it :-D
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on May 14, 2016, 03:35:38 pm
I totally agree.. JXD on  marketing this device has been nothing but disappointments.

There is still a number of us who have faith. At least this is not a project that requires funding nor it is a a company who has just started..

We will find out soon
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 14, 2016, 04:22:27 pm
They may not need funding or have just started, they just act like they have.

I have faith, I know it will be released. But what will it be worth when the next devices will be just around the corner?

At Xmas when it was due it was the new kid on the block and a great value and design. Now... hmm not so much.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 14, 2016, 06:14:11 pm
Yep. The K1 is getting a bit long in the tooth and new tech is knocking on the door. It´s two year old technology we are talking about, in a tech-world that moves extremely fast. And they even upped the price!

BUT HEY, TOMORROW IS THE DAY! =D
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 15, 2016, 10:37:49 am
So...um...I think the day of release for the JXD S192 is here...anyone?

http://img0.joyreactor.com/pics/post/gif-bottle-open-win-1531784.gif
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on May 15, 2016, 04:45:27 pm
So...um...I think the day of release for the JXD S192 is here...anyone?

http://img0.joyreactor.com/pics/post/gif-bottle-open-win-1531784.gif

No signs yet...as of now.. its almost 12am in China...so there should've been some announcement by now... I think we should check later on since it will be the 16th later on tonight...at least compared to Eastern Standard time...
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 15, 2016, 08:19:33 pm
Yeah, in about 6 hours from now, the working day monday starts in China.

I wonder what message JXD will bring us.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 15, 2016, 08:29:42 pm
JXD will be mostly bringing us.... disappointment..
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 15, 2016, 08:31:26 pm
JXD will be mostly bringing us.... disappointment..

Hehe...I guess we will see in some hours! =)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on May 15, 2016, 09:47:51 pm
JXD will be mostly bringing us.... disappointment..

Why o why did you say that...oh wait, because they did this to us 3 other times...
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 15, 2016, 09:55:00 pm
Only 3 for you? Feels like 6 to me.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on May 15, 2016, 11:04:33 pm
Crap...did I loose count or my mind??

This has now become the most anticipated disappointment!!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 15, 2016, 11:09:18 pm
Yea we've all lost our minds over this. I'm pulling my cash back at this end of the week, tested VR and its pretty good need £700 for my next investment :-/
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on May 16, 2016, 01:32:53 am
Geekbuying took the Preorder label off of their listing, and are now listing it as a sale item.  Banggood is still listing 0 stock though.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on May 16, 2016, 03:59:26 am
Well... As much as I joke around  and make fun of this situation, reality has come to smack us in the face again.....

I just recently started a chat session with JXD with their online official store as a new customer and this is what I got...

Suave6565
Hi, I wanted to know when the s192 will be available?
I would like to place an order

JXD
joined the chat

JXD


you can place an order and we will ship it out at the end of May.


So it seems that we are DELAYED yet again!!!

Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 16, 2016, 04:26:19 am
Yeah for sure another delay!! I just received this message from Jxd.   


 
sales@jxdofficial.com
11:15 PM (8 minutes ago)

to me
Sorry,i meant it would be available at 15th,but we will ship out at the this month.hope you can understand.i will try my best to ship it to you soon.

sales@jxdofficial.com
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 16, 2016, 04:31:33 am

Sorry,i meant it would be available at 15th,but we will ship out at the this month.hope you can understand.i will try my best to ship it to you soon.



Wow...here we go. Another delay.  :-X ??? ::)

Next time we get a notice it will be a delay until after the summer.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on May 16, 2016, 04:33:50 am
Yeah for sure another delay!! I just received this message from Jxd.   


 
sales@jxdofficial.com
11:15 PM (8 minutes ago)

to me
Sorry,i meant it would be available at 15th,but we will ship out at the this month.hope you can understand.i will try my best to ship it to you soon.

sales@jxdofficial.com
It could mean that they only have a limited amount they've released and new orders will ship later in the month.  Maybe some of the preorder units will ship on Monday.  I know... wishful thinking.

Sent from my Pixel C using Tapatalk

Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 16, 2016, 04:37:30 am
I don't believe any S192's have released ,as there would be new YouTube videos and benchmarkings of the device everywhere.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on May 16, 2016, 05:00:11 am
Yeah for sure another delay!! I just received this message from Jxd.   


 
sales@jxdofficial.com
11:15 PM (8 minutes ago)

to me
Sorry,i meant it would be available at 15th,but we will ship out at the this month.hope you can understand.i will try my best to ship it to you soon.

sales@jxdofficial.com
It could mean that they only have a limited amount they've released and new orders will ship later in the month.  Maybe some of the preorder units will ship on Monday.  I know... wishful thinking.

Sent from my Pixel C using Tapatalk

No, it actually means that they will be shipping it at the end of this month!! This is coming from JXD themselves... doesn't get any clearer than that. Wishful thinking though, but we all know at this point what JXD is capable of and that is..... Delays

I just got another email from them with:

we will ship out in this month.you can tell me your order number,i will take priority of your order.


This is after asking them:

When?? what is the exact date, another day or another 2 weeks??

So its safe to say, Sales still has no clue and can't give a solid answer for a date.. All they keep telling us is to be patient and they will ship it soon.. We all want this to be released already and that's the reason why we come here to vent...


We reset the countdown for another 2 weeks...if anything changes, im sure we will hear it from them  and on their site..
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on May 16, 2016, 07:07:11 am
I don't believe any S192's have released ,as there would be new YouTube videos and benchmarkings of the device everywhere.

If they released them on the 15th, it doesn't mean that they just appear in all the customers hands and videos are immediately ready to go.  They kept talking about the first batch being small.  They could have released a select amount of unit to their distributors.  That means that the distributors could be getting 50-100 units each on Monday or Tuesday, and shipping them out to the customers that have preordered. 

At least that's the idea... and it would perfectly match my luck.  I've already disputed my preorder with Paypal, so I'm not getting it anymore.  But, I preordered on November 16th, about an hour after Geekbuying opened preorders.  So, it would just be my luck that they'd get enough to fill the order, after I'd already disputed it and demanded my money back.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 16, 2016, 07:15:19 am
This news makes me very sad, so in all honestly it looks like a June shipment at the earliest then, after all it's only 2 weeks away, and its a bank holiday weekend for me so no post.

You know last night I was playing on the 7800 and its not that bad really, only a few emulators that play slow and not really ones I would play on anyways, n64/ ps1.

Maybe it's time to cancel my order get the money back and move on, in another 6 months the next best thing will be out anyways. Ot maybe I can game stream emulators to my android devices who knows.

Need to give this some serious thought this week, for me the benefits of this device are wearing thin.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 16, 2016, 12:16:01 pm
LordDavon trust me Willgoo and other distributors themselves would post videos of the S192 in action as it would help their sales, not to mention that they have done so in the past with other devices. Also some of the buyers and sellers are Chinese themselves so they would surely receive their devices before those in the UK and especially before myself and others in the USA.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: vcoleiro1 on May 16, 2016, 01:06:35 pm
Well guys, it actually sounds like its getting very close now to shipping.  So I'd be a little chillier about any 1-2 week delays. 
To be honest, in retrospect, the time to completely lose your shit about delays, was months ago, as opposed to now
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on May 16, 2016, 02:07:35 pm
I don't believe any S192's have released ,as there would be new YouTube videos and benchmarkings of the device everywhere.

If they released them on the 15th, it doesn't mean that they just appear in all the customers hands and videos are immediately ready to go.  They kept talking about the first batch being small.  They could have released a select amount of unit to their distributors.  That means that the distributors could be getting 50-100 units each on Monday or Tuesday, and shipping them out to the customers that have preordered. 

At least that's the idea... and it would perfectly match my luck.  I've already disputed my preorder with Paypal, so I'm not getting it anymore.  But, I preordered on November 16th, about an hour after Geekbuying opened preorders.  So, it would just be my luck that they'd get enough to fill the order, after I'd already disputed it and demanded my money back.

I actually believe that...but what gets me is the fact that they keep dogging my question... its only so much you can say please be patient.. I knew it was bullshit when they gave us a date range 10-15th..with a forewarning to check after the 15th to see if it shipped, if not, wait until the end of the month.. I though it was strange and it almost felt to me as if they knew they couldn't deliver for what ever reason and they were just saying that just to keep us at bay for just a bit more. the 15th came and went and we sure get a notification to wait by the end of the month... with still NO exact date... This is where im getting at!!!  if they say, it will be released on such date... then one can think , it will take some time to ship.. another thing that I keep stressing is that if you read you confirmation order from any of the company you purchased from including JXD, the tracking information will be sent to those who pre-ordered. Now im taking it further, if Elronza's theory is correct and there were a small batch, then I would assume, the  the small batch would sure go to those who first per-ordered with JXD back in November. They would need to take care those JXD customers first... the next batch would go to the distributors and so on.... If you ordered with JXD back in November and canceled then, reordered, i think your placement in the list would fall and to those who still kept their pre-orders would sure see an email with tracking information of the device sooner than most including myself. I canceled in march since i was fed up.. just recently when JXD opened their pre-orders when it was at $269, i placed my order again by this time i had calmed down and had high hopes that it was finally being released... Im not expecting mine until 2nd or 3rd batch.

In all reality,  WE have no clue as to whats happening in the backend...we are just going back and forth with speculations and coming up with a rational explanation to all this to keep us from canceling the orders and going fumes of hope that this unit will be finally shipped to us. There was never an official word from them only notifications and email from sales who dont know or can't tell us whats going on... bottom line, we dont know!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: eragon2890 on May 16, 2016, 02:58:07 pm
This news makes me very sad, so in all honestly it looks like a June shipment at the earliest then, after all it's only 2 weeks away, and its a bank holiday weekend for me so no post.

You know last night I was playing on the 7800 and its not that bad really, only a few emulators that play slow and not really ones I would play on anyways, n64/ ps1.

Maybe it's time to cancel my order get the money back and move on, in another 6 months the next best thing will be out anyways. Ot maybe I can game stream emulators to my android devices who knows.

Need to give this some serious thought this week, for me the benefits of this device are wearing thin.

The next big thing is the GPD win, what's with running skyrim and cod black ops 2 and such natively @720p and being similarly priced...

But seriously, I am following this thread because I do think the new JXD sounds cool on paper (despite the alarmingly high rate their 7300 and 7800 devices seem to fall apart compared to GPD and other brands ...) but when the hell are they going to release it? I mean I am not that angry considering I did not preorder one, but if I did I would sure have asked my money back long ago, with steam coming from my ears! I mean I also preordered my GPD XD, and it was delayed, but that was about one month, with a clear reason given by the company (not just "wait plox" but what the exact problem was and why they had to fix it before release and how long it would probably take) so it was fine.

This? This is a circus act!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 16, 2016, 04:18:23 pm
Gpd can keep their Gpd Win. The next device I'm ordering is the Dragonbox Pyra. Two of them in fact as my wife Nada wants one herself. I love the fact that the Pyra has two SD card slots and a micro SD card slot with all totaled allowing over 1tb of storage. Not to mention the Pyra has click able analog sticks and can use a 4glte sim card.     

https://www.dragonbox.de/en/45-pyra
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 16, 2016, 04:31:00 pm
https://youtu.be/rZDfTVX8Nb8
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: mixwell on May 16, 2016, 04:41:30 pm
I ordered mine on the 7th of November. Anyone earlier than that?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 16, 2016, 05:38:33 pm
Whaaaaaat the f*** £800 euros for a pocket/ handheld pc!! Mental.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 16, 2016, 06:07:12 pm
£300 for the standard Pyra £400 for the mobile 4glte version.


https://www.dragonbox.de/en/45-pyra
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 16, 2016, 06:11:54 pm
I forgot to mention that the Dragonbox Pyra has a light up keyboard for use at night and low light situations.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on May 16, 2016, 06:55:19 pm
This news makes me very sad, so in all honestly it looks like a June shipment at the earliest then, after all it's only 2 weeks away, and its a bank holiday weekend for me so no post.

You know last night I was playing on the 7800 and its not that bad really, only a few emulators that play slow and not really ones I would play on anyways, n64/ ps1.

Maybe it's time to cancel my order get the money back and move on, in another 6 months the next best thing will be out anyways. Ot maybe I can game stream emulators to my android devices who knows.

Need to give this some serious thought this week, for me the benefits of this device are wearing thin.

The next big thing is the GPD win, what's with running skyrim and cod black ops 2 and such natively @720p and being similarly priced...

But seriously, I am following this thread because I do think the new JXD sounds cool on paper (despite the alarmingly high rate their 7300 and 7800 devices seem to fall apart compared to GPD and other brands ...) but when the hell are they going to release it? I mean I am not that angry considering I did not preorder one, but if I did I would sure have asked my money back long ago, with steam coming from my ears! I mean I also preordered my GPD XD, and it was delayed, but that was about one month, with a clear reason given by the company (not just "wait plox" but what the exact problem was and why they had to fix it before release and how long it would probably take) so it was fine.

This? This is a circus act!


You re so right...what JXD lacks is communication..unless you work for JXD, we wont know what the issue for the constant delays... im sticking to my pre-order until this thing releases.. I have other toys im looking forward to and I may just get the GPD Win if I have money to spare in the next week or so.  i follow this thread because we are all on the same boat and people seem to be generally nice and not to mention informative.

Funny...yesterday, my wife and I are searching to purchase a house, so we have been looking at open houses over the weekend and in one house, we came across a house where the guy  had every game imaginable in his garage...it looked an arcade from the 80's. additionally he worked on them and had tons of emuators aside from the game units and was aware of the s192. He's also fed up and had actually canceled his order for the device back in march..




Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: vcoleiro1 on May 16, 2016, 11:21:28 pm
£300 for the standard Pyra £400 for the mobile 4glte version.


https://www.dragonbox.de/en/45-pyra

The Low end Pyra 2GB - no mobile Pyra is £392 ($566 USD)

The 4GB mobile Pyra is £492   ($709 USD)

Those figures exclude VAT or sales tax
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Pleng on May 17, 2016, 06:14:46 am
Right. Neither of which is anywhere near 800 Euros or 800 Pounds.

Uhhh! GPD Win and Pyra... FINALLY 2 UMPCs available.... and NEITHER of them have Android :(
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 17, 2016, 07:05:29 am
your right, dunno what i was reading there, its £582 GBP excluding shipping ( that's assuming they added the correct VAT for uk)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: MOFO on May 17, 2016, 12:35:04 pm
I've looked at the Pyra and it's just too damn expensive for what it is, great for those that think it's worth the money but for me way out of my price range on this sort of device.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 17, 2016, 12:56:06 pm
Pleng here's a umpc with Android and Windows.       http://obscurehandhelds.com/2016/05/out-of-nowhere-comes-pgslab/
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: vcoleiro1 on May 17, 2016, 01:01:05 pm
Since everyone is off topic anyway.  I should add that GPD have said they plan to release a dual boot OS for the WIN after it releases.  It will then be optional for users to download it.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: zampler on May 17, 2016, 01:16:50 pm
Shipment will be in three days .All reservations users, Please confirm right shipping address, if there were any change shipping address.

Posted this morniing at
http://www.jxd.hk/game-console/s192/
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: vcoleiro1 on May 17, 2016, 01:26:37 pm
Shipment will be in three days .All reservations users, Please confirm right shipping address, if there were any change shipping address.

Posted this morniing at
http://www.jxd.hk/game-console/s192/

Seems like you guys are finally going to get your S192s.  Be sure to post reviews on Youtube please!

Get ready to experience "Crazy Finger joy"
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 17, 2016, 02:59:49 pm
Wrong post :)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on May 17, 2016, 03:30:00 pm
Holy Crap....

Looks like the wait is over....good thing someone checked.. Did any one get an email notification?

The main site shows that its shipping in 3 days and now the status shows as "In Stock"
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 17, 2016, 03:34:55 pm
My breath is not being held ;-)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 17, 2016, 03:39:59 pm
Amazing! Shipped in three days. I guess the wait is over and it will be out there soon.
Now for the waiting game...when will it arrive?

 ;D

Armageddon, I think you can hold your breath now  8). This is pretty much a definitive confirmation. They would not say it like this otherwise.

But now, next question is how the quality is, and how the device will run. Looking forward to see!  ;D
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 17, 2016, 03:47:36 pm
I've asked my supplier for confirmation so fingers crossed.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on May 17, 2016, 05:02:28 pm
Has any one else ordered outside of JXD... I know that there were some how ordered from Geekbuying.com,gearbest.com and some others... Just curious if those will take a bit longer. I had a firend who ordered after the price when up in JXD and recently placed and order through geekbuying.com which has the lowest price out of all the price with a $50 code bring it down to:  $289.00

We will see more activity here in the next few weeks once the device starts trickling into our hands.

I'm pretty sure most of us will forget about the whole ordeal about these delays... Im excited to get my s192...Christmas all over again!!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 17, 2016, 06:04:24 pm
My order better not take a back seat, I preordered 6 months ago like most of us here regardless of whether it was 1st or 2nd party I hope they fulfill in order they were at least pre ordered? Still awaiting a reply from my supplier.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on May 17, 2016, 07:08:24 pm
My order better not take a back seat, I preordered 6 months ago like most of us here regardless of whether it was 1st or 2nd party I hope they fulfill in order they were at least pre ordered? Still awaiting a reply from my supplier.

Who did you order it from?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 17, 2016, 07:09:12 pm
Funstock
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 17, 2016, 07:27:03 pm
I don't think the S192 is coming. I wouldn't be surprised if this is some stunt by Jxd to try to keep us all pacified. For one thing 3 days from now is Friday. Why wouldn't they have tried to ship yesterday to better make sure our devices arrived without any hiccups? Vs waiting for the end of the week.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 17, 2016, 07:34:47 pm
I also thought that too but was trying to be positive :-/

Stay strong people.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on May 17, 2016, 07:58:04 pm
I don't think the S192 is coming. I wouldn't be surprised if this is some stunt by Jxd to try to keep us all pacified. For one thing 3 days from now is Friday. Why wouldn't they have tried to ship yesterday to better make sure our devices arrived without any hiccups? Vs waiting for the end of the week.

I don't think they would go that far and post that it will be shipped within 3 days and not to mention, their site now says its "In Stock" and for so long.. Why would they go through the trouble. I thought that too considering they have been telling people its coming only to be delayed several times. It's possible...We would have to wait and see!

If anything we should be hearing from them anytime between now and Thursday....im going by their time zone since Thursday would be their Friday compared to Eastern Standard Time.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 17, 2016, 08:24:36 pm
It's coming.

They were first saying end of the month, probably as they were not sure. Better to be safe than sorry.

Now they know and it is definitive. Can't be more definitive than this. Three days until they start shipping.

Enjoy!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 17, 2016, 08:49:45 pm
Here are the reasons why I don't believe that the S192 is on its way.  Firstly Jxd's official site still shows coming soon.  Next Jxd hk only shows shipping in 3 days when I use one of my PC's/Laptops not on my smartphone or one of my Android devices. And  lastly Jxd claimed trial production for the longest. Which ironically is what's still showing on Jxd hk when I use my non Windows based devices. Where are the videos and posts from the testers showing the benchmarks and letting us know of quality and testing results. I'll use my Nvidia Shield Portable for an example. At Ces 2013 Nvidia showed the Shield Portable, and within a few weeks there were tons of reviews and benchmarks done of the device months before its release.  Here's the link to Jxd's official site.     http://www.jxdofficial.com/jxd-s192-game-cosole-powered-by-nvidia-tegra-k1-2gb-ddr3-32gb-storage-black.html
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 17, 2016, 09:04:04 pm
Here's Jxd hk link take a look using a non Windows based device, and you'll see it's still showing:

Thanks very much for your ongoing attention, now S192 is in preparation for trial production, we will release for sale after that, please stay tuned. The people who already ordered and do not want to wait, now you can cancel the order from the website, we will process it as quickly as we can, sorry again to bring you into trouble. Thanks again for your support, THANKS!       

http://www.jxd.hk/game-console/s192/
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on May 17, 2016, 09:12:30 pm
If there's no update by the end of the week I'm afraid I'm out, I want a gtx 1080 with oculus instead now.

About time!  I just got this from Oculus.:

"Hi David,

Your order has been processed and your Rift is almost on its way! Look for a shipping confirmation email with tracking information soon.

Please keep this email handy for reference. If you have any questions or concerns about your order, please contact Oculus Support."

Now to upgrade my 970 to the new 1070!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 17, 2016, 09:29:59 pm
Nice.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on May 17, 2016, 09:49:32 pm
Here are the reasons why I don't believe that the S192 is on its way.  Firstly Jxd's official site still shows coming soon.  Next Jxd hk only shows shipping in 3 days when I use one of my PC's/Laptops not on my smartphone or one of my Android devices. And  lastly Jxd claimed trial production for the longest. Which ironically is what's still showing on Jxd hk when I use my non Windows based devices. Where are the videos and posts from the testers showing the benchmarks and letting us know of quality and testing results. I'll use my Nvidia Shield Portable for an example. At Ces 2013 Nvidia showed the Shield Portable, and within a few weeks there were tons of reviews and benchmarks done of the device months before its release.  Here's the link to Jxd's official site.     http://www.jxdofficial.com/jxd-s192-game-cosole-powered-by-nvidia-tegra-k1-2gb-ddr3-32gb-storage-black.html

Elronza,

I hear you on this and one part feels like its another let down and the other is hopeful... I went and check to see what you were talking about since I thought your issue might be cache in your browser. I did check the site on my phone and sure enough, the info shows the same message we've been seeing for the past month or so..
if you look at url on the mobile device, it does show m.jxd.hk which is a different page than jxd.hk or jxdofficial.com

Then I spoke to a web designer here at work and he told me its possible they didn't update the content on the mobile and jxdofficial sites since they are different web domains.. the layouts are different therefore requires additional work to maintain and update instead of having one site that's responsive to mobile device.  However, There's a reason why they are different...the first one is for the consumer to display the product in a higher resolution the other is for sales and less graphics...the mobile site can only support a certain resolution and cannot display what the regular site can show. When calls up the site from a mobile device, it will redirect them to the mobile site. They only updated the one at the top of the search engine list which is jxd.hk. You would think they would develop just one site with all these features.. I always questioned why they have so many of the same sites.

Its very possible they didn't update content to the other sites.

Dont loose faith just yet!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on May 17, 2016, 11:26:47 pm
Nice.

I know.  I'm all excited, but I haven't received the shipping notification yet.  Did yours ship yet?

I was just reading Anandtech's preview of the 1080 card, including benchmarks.  Now I have my eye on it.  My wife asked, "Do you really need a $700 dollar video card?"  I told her yes, but she could tell I was fibbing.  So, I may not be able to get it. :-(  I hope the 1070 has good benchmarks, since I already have her convinced on that one.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Pleng on May 18, 2016, 04:08:11 am
Pleng here's a umpc with Android and Windows.       http://obscurehandhelds.com/2016/05/out-of-nowhere-comes-pgslab/

Hi thanks. Yes, I'm aware of that one. But I'm not sure it's every going to actually see the light of day. Looks interesting.

Since everyone is off topic anyway.  I should add that GPD have said they plan to release a dual boot OS for the WIN after it releases.  It will then be optional for users to download it.

Yes, they have said that. Doesn't mean it's actually going to happen, though! :)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 18, 2016, 04:39:14 am
Please keep the discussion to JXD and the s192 in this thread and part of the forum.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: mixwell on May 18, 2016, 07:33:01 am
Had an email saying mine will be shipped this week ;)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 18, 2016, 08:04:35 am
What country are you?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Web8bits on May 18, 2016, 09:09:05 am
Our order from JXD is on the way to our store, we start sending then to our preorders customers on May 27 or earlier, depends on customs.

(http://www.web8bits.com/eBay/Consolas/JXD/S192/S192_01.jpg)


(http://www.web8bits.com/eBay/Consolas/JXD/S192/S192_02.jpg)

If someone are interested in buying it from Europe, so no customs fees, go to:

http://www.micomputer.es/en/home/202-jxd-s192-singularity.html

Regards


Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 18, 2016, 09:10:42 am
wow they look sexy.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: mixwell on May 18, 2016, 10:22:19 am
What country are you?
The same one as you
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 18, 2016, 10:28:01 am
Well I'm glad to see that I was indeed wrong about Jxd pulling one over on us. I hope mine arrives soon as with the 32gb's of on board storage and the 200gb's micro sdxc memory card that I bought for it I have a lot to do filling it up with games. I'll say this much if the S192's are as high quality as they look they'll be on par with the Nvidia Shield Portable, with whom they look to share the same type of plastic.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 18, 2016, 10:34:08 am
Mixwell who did you pre order from?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: vcoleiro1 on May 18, 2016, 11:14:19 am
Well,  I must admit , the box looks very Nvidia ish
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on May 18, 2016, 11:17:26 am
Some people have asked to make a custom rom for this device. I have to say that I have no money to get one of this, and also I already have a shield tablet and GPD devices which are enough for my needs. So, if JXd (or a shop) wants to send a sample or if JXD provide kernel source to me I can think about it, but I don't think anything of that happens.  So I suppose firmwares will come from JXD or if other people develop for it. Just cross your fingers with JXD firmwares, because they usually have some flaws....
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 18, 2016, 11:34:11 am
For me the only reason I would like a custom ROM is to be a to do the old ext/ int SD memory swap which sadly you can't do on this version of Android (same as my current phone) no matter what apps I try or files I edit it just can't be done which is a shame.

Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: mixwell on May 18, 2016, 11:45:17 am
Mixwell who did you pre order from?

I ordered mine from jxd.hk. not the jxd shop .
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 18, 2016, 11:57:56 am
Ahh I ordered from a UK shop so I get the 3yr warranty, I find foreign sellers don't give a shit about warranty's.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 18, 2016, 04:24:09 pm
Those pics of the S192 being shipped gets me pumped! =)
Wanna break my box open as soon as possible!


Looking out for the first real unboxing on Youtube!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on May 18, 2016, 04:51:44 pm
Some people have asked to make a custom rom for this device. I have to say that I have no money to get one of this, and also I already have a shield tablet and GPD devices which are enough for my needs. So, if JXd (or a shop) wants to send a sample or if JXD provide kernel source to me I can think about it, but I don't think anything of that happens.  So I suppose firmwares will come from JXD or if other people develop for it. Just cross your fingers with JXD firmwares, because they usually have some flaws....

If I get one, I can do one.  I can always get your help, if I have any questions. ;-)  I can't see it any harder than doing andLinux, and that only took me a couple of days.  I was going to do one for the S7800, but my unit never worked right, and died trying to fix it.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 18, 2016, 05:06:02 pm
Bleh..... I guess funstock have given up in JXD.

I updated them with the info and emails from here people were getting and asked for them to chase JXD and whilst they read every message within 30 mins they still haven't replied.

Have to say I'm a little disappointed when I know they should have more info now. 


(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160518/a11f8f943a354ae2fb6b5c98d1e713f1.jpg)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 18, 2016, 05:09:33 pm
Bleh..... I guess funstock have given up in JXD.

I updated them with the info and emails from here people were getting and asked for them to chase JXD and whilst they read every message within 30 mins they still haven't replied.

Have to say I'm a little disappointed when I know they should have more info now. 

Did you order from Funstock?
They still have them available for pre-order.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 18, 2016, 05:13:30 pm
Yeah paid in full 6 months ago, all they had to say yesterday to me was thanks for that info well chase JXD and I would have been happy to wait until the weekend for info buy now after 2 days they are pissing me off... after I haven't hassled them for 6 months.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Qubits on May 18, 2016, 05:16:19 pm
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Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Qubits on May 18, 2016, 05:24:36 pm
Can anyone who will recieve it and have a s7800b make a good video comparaison on the emulators (snes, megadrive, Gameboy, arcade) using scanlines filter and a correct aspect ratio (not full screen) ? And if possible show some android games like limbo, boson x  or monument valley ? And also give us impressions about the weight of the console since its pretty heavy (580gr) and if therefore you can hold it for a long time or if you have to put it down for long time gaming ?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 18, 2016, 05:33:53 pm
Yeah paid in full 6 months ago, all they had to say yesterday to me was thanks for that info well chase JXD and I would have been happy to wait until the weekend for info buy now after 2 days they are pissing me off... after I haven't hassled them for 6 months.

Wow. Weird that they won´t get in touch with you. Maybe you know more than they do?

My wild guess is that the order still stands and that you will get your device without problems. But it is weird that they don´t connect back to you.

Can anyone who will recieve it and have a s7800b make a good video comparaison on the emulators (snes, megadrive, Gameboy, arcade) using scanlines filter and a correct aspect ratio (not full screen) ? And if possible show some android games like limbo, boson x  or monument valley ? And also give us impressions about the weight of the console since its pretty heavy (580gr) and if therefore you can hold it for a long time or if you have to put it down for long time gaming ?

I guess you will see a lot of videos popping up on Youtube. Give it 2-3 weeks.
It´s not super-heavy. I don´t think that it will be a problem.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Qubits on May 18, 2016, 07:13:07 pm
I know there will be some videos on YouTube, but if anyone here got a s7800b and order a s192 i would appreciate if he could do the comparaison of the two with thoses emulators with the settings mentioned because i think most of the people that will publish the first videos are going to be about android 3d fps / fighting games and emulators in full screen without scanlines just like the s7800b videos that you can find and are obviously not made by retro gamers. Since i'd like to order a s192 and not rich, i would like to see if it worth the price for retro gaming or if a s7800b is enough.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 18, 2016, 07:13:34 pm
I'll be doing a YouTube video review of myJxd S192 vs my Gpd Xd vs my Nvidia Shield Portable. Although I like fullscreen which is one of the main reasons I'm getting this device. The larger screen size is a huge incentive for Android games, retro games, and of course Geforce Now and Gamestream. Truth be told it should score only slightly less than the Nvidia Shield Tablet. With one notable exception. If the Jxd S192 has a fan then it has the potential to be overclocked higher than the Nvidia Shield Tablet thus raising its score and performance!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on May 18, 2016, 07:23:32 pm
The shield tablet can run at 2.5 GHz. To overclock this jxd you need kernel source, which jxd won't release most probably
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 18, 2016, 07:28:04 pm
I'll be doing a YouTube video review of myJxd S192 vs my Gpd Xd vs my Nvidia Shield Portable. Although I like fullscreen which is one of the main reasons I'm getting this device. The larger screen size is a huge incentive for Android games, retro games, and of course Geforce Now and Gamestream. Truth be told it should score only slightly less than the Nvidia Shield Tablet. With one notable exception. If the Jxd S192 has a fan then it has the potential to be overclocked higher than the Nvidia Shield Tablet thus raising its score and performance!

Looking forward to see this Elronza. Remember to stop by here and post the link when you are done. =)

The shield tablet can run at 2.5 GHz. To overclock this jxd you need kernel source, which jxd won't release most probably

As work starts to get done on the JXD I am sure we will se both overclocking and other tweaks/roms for it.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 18, 2016, 08:10:15 pm
Siliconmessiah I will for sure post the video link here.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 18, 2016, 08:15:26 pm
Thanks Elronza, looking forward to it! Be sure to include a shoutout to us here at Dingoonity! ;)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on May 18, 2016, 08:16:53 pm
The shield tablet can run at 2.5 GHz. To overclock this jxd you need kernel source, which jxd won't release most probably

As work starts to get done on the JXD I am sure we will se both overclocking and other tweaks/roms for it.
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jf JXd doesn't release kernel source code, there is nothing to do to overclock it. And JXd is not nvidia, they don't care about GPL and they usually don't release code
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 18, 2016, 08:21:06 pm
Can't the shield kernal be modified to run on it? It's essentially the same machine.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on May 18, 2016, 09:09:16 pm
Can't the shield kernal be modified to run on it? It's essentially the same machine.

That's not easy. For.example,. Gpd q9 and gpd.xd are both rk3288, but kernel differs a lot, like different WiFi, screen, touch driver, internal gpios. connection for.buttons and pad,.etc....

In jxd 7800b a custom kernel could be made because jxd leaked the jellybean kernel and lujji adapted my kernel.from gpd g7 to it, but if jxd doesn't leak it, ir's a very harsh work.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on May 18, 2016, 09:11:02 pm
Can't the shield kernal be modified to run on it? It's essentially the same machine.

I doubt it.  The Shield runs Android 6, and the JXD 4.4.  I can't remember what my Shield shipped with, but I am sure the kernel versions are too different to use the JXD modules on the Shield kernel.  That is assuming you could use some of the modules in the same source versions.

Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Qubits on May 18, 2016, 09:36:46 pm
I wouldnt use the overclocking option on any portable consoles as it will just shorten the life of your cpu. I am hoping thoses new consoles made for retro gaming and android games will last as much as the Gameboy, gba, pc engine and all portables machines of this era and like some of them will become collector if the gamers who buy them take good care of them.

About playing full screen, it's ok if it keep the good aspect ratio (with black borders) otherwise i think the picture looks ugly, for emulation the screensize of the jxd are not good for fullscreen, unlike what you can find on machines like the dingoo or gcw so i prefer to keep the original aspect ratio and have black borders also adding scanlines improves a lot the graphics on thoses screens.

From the few videos of the official jxd YouTube account that i've seen, the fps of the jxd seemed much more better than the nvidia and the screen of the jxd blows any portable consoles out there but i guess we'll have to wait to make some games comparaison.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Qubits on May 18, 2016, 09:55:32 pm
There is just one thing i dont like with the s192 is this big fckn ugly typo on the back, what a bad taste. I think they should have kept the android robot logo, make it just a slighty larger and in white, would have been perfect.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Qubits on May 18, 2016, 10:00:58 pm
Like this.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 19, 2016, 06:41:48 am
For me, overclocking is not needed. I am mainly using the s192 for Gamestreaming. It will be my portable Steam-machine. I do not want it cluttered with emulators and stuff.

For emulators I will use my S7800b and that's enough.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 19, 2016, 07:16:54 am
If jxd are supposed to release the source under GPL then we should all report them to the GPL police, there must be somone monitoring this kind of thing or why bother having it.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on May 19, 2016, 10:31:17 am
If jxd are supposed to release the source under GPL then we should all report them to the GPL police, there must be somone monitoring this kind of thing or why bother having it.

You can try but nost chinese companies don't care about gpl, oncluding biggest ones like xiaomi. I have a redmi note 2 and devs cannot make a marshnallow rom because kernel has noy been released by xiaomi for example
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: xmcnuggetx on May 19, 2016, 11:43:32 am
I had a JXD on order and cancelled.  Just got this email this morning.

Quote
Dear Friend,

Sorry for the long time delay of the S192, Now it is really come out,
you can place a order on the below link if you still have interest in it,
http://www.jxd.hk/game-console/s192/
http://www.jxdofficial.com/jxd-s192-game-cosole-powered-by-nvidia-tegra-k1-2gb-ddr3-32gb-storage-black.html

Thanks   &  Best Regards
Sophie
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 19, 2016, 12:45:26 pm
I had a JXD on order and cancelled.  Just got this email this morning.

Dear Friend,

Sorry for the long time delay of the S192, Now it is really come out,
you can place a order on the below link if you still have interest in it,
http://www.jxd.hk/game-console/s192/
http://www.jxdofficial.com/jxd-s192-game-cosole-powered-by-nvidia-tegra-k1-2gb-ddr3-32gb-storage-black.html

Thanks   &  Best Regards
Sophie

Yeah. It's pretty much released now.
Are you going to make another go for it?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: cybermat on May 19, 2016, 01:18:20 pm
When the price will be $192 i will buy it!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: ClawShrimp on May 19, 2016, 03:04:48 pm
I must be a glutton for punishment because I've just placed my order.
If I'm being completely honest, it was the pics Web8bits posted that pushed me over the line.
Hopefully I don't regret it.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 19, 2016, 04:25:36 pm
Anyone thought about cases for the s192 yet? There wasn't anything available for the last device so I made a custom one (see below) but the s192 is considerably wider.

Or are we not that far ahead in thinking yet :-P

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160519/9f01f4f5be23aa5ac035a3de2b27491d.jpg)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 19, 2016, 05:20:28 pm
I'm thinking of making a custom case or adapting one. Your custom case is nice!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 19, 2016, 05:31:17 pm
But for the s192 there is no 'base' case that I know of to start with.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 19, 2016, 07:34:37 pm
Very nice case! I will most likely have my S192 laying in front of the TV, as a quick-Gamestream-gadget.
It would be great to have a case to keep the dust from it.

In other news, I wished that I paid extra for the quick-shipping. But I didn´t. =(
On the other hand, after all the delays we have been through, my opinion is that JXD should just go for quick shipping of it all. ;)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: fofo33 on May 19, 2016, 08:22:18 pm
I'm thinking of making a custom case or adapting one. Your custom case is nice!


Nice or freak?  ;)



Waiting for the first videos with emotion and illusion  ;D and crying for the price.  :'(
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 19, 2016, 08:36:55 pm
I was thinking of adapting one of these 10 inch laptop cases.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 19, 2016, 09:00:50 pm
Jesus that's massive
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 19, 2016, 09:36:01 pm
Lol I do plan to have both it's HDMI cable and charger. Also I own a ton of Prima game strategy guides for retro games. And I own this 80,000mah solar portable charger, which I bought from eBay link provided. I have now owned this charger for over 6 months without any problems. It charges my Shield Portable about 4 times before needing to be recharged, and it allows you to charge 2 devices at the same time.     


http://m.ebay.com/itm/Sliver-80000mAh-Dual-USB-Portable-Solar-Battery-Charger-Power-Bank-For-Phone-USA-/131644867340?nav=SEARCH
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 20, 2016, 02:32:47 am
I hope drastic and other emulators will be easier to operate and navigate thanks to the Jxd S192 having both start and select buttons.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 20, 2016, 08:06:35 am
If it's anything like the s7800 which also had them then they should be, they are totally configurable though.

I just hope they don't bundle there key mapping software as it's rubbish, I bought tin core which is amazing.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 20, 2016, 09:50:30 am
So, today is shipping day, right?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 20, 2016, 09:53:25 am
Depends who you ask, I'm still waiting for a response from funstock been 2 days now :-/
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 20, 2016, 10:29:56 am
Depends who you ask, I'm still waiting for a response from funstock been 2 days now :-/

Ah, bummer. You are still waiting? That's not good at all. Especially as you have paid in full. :(
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 20, 2016, 10:31:03 am
It's frustrating not knowing what's happening but I suspect they aren't responding because they don't know either. JXD are a law unto themselves.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 20, 2016, 11:24:19 am
Big brother is watching.... had confirmation just now. The s192 is blessing the shores of sunny blighty within the next couple of weeks.

Happy now! Time to start measuring and finding a case to fit it in. My s7800 is still like new with original screen protector on ha-ha. Want to give my s192 the same respect.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 20, 2016, 12:09:01 pm
So should I be flattered or. annoyed, somone on this forum called funstock on the phone pretending to be me, and by the sounds of it more than 1 occasion as well.

Funstock said and I quote "I believe we've spoke many times over the phone"

Hmmm I think not. I would have said my name and order number if it was.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 20, 2016, 12:18:42 pm
Lol I can assure you that it wasn't me. But man I don't know if you should rejoice or be fire hot. I will say even though I don't have my shipping number yet I'm happy to hear that all of you who pre-ordered first and have been waiting 6 months or more are indeed receiving confirmation!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 20, 2016, 01:03:03 pm
It would be nice to know in what numbers the s192 expect to sell. It's hard to estimate.
How many shield portables is out there?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on May 20, 2016, 01:45:14 pm
I think we should start seeing some units start trickling in the next week or two...

I've been religiously checking this site just as much or more than my work emails and thats alot!... until now, I haven't received any notification indicating the status of my s192 order..

I don't think we will see anything now either...technically its Saturday 8pm and in a few hours, it will Sunday in which we won't see any activity from any of the shops. Im assuming they would be closed...   

It really sucks not knowing and the anticipation is killing us.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 20, 2016, 02:59:20 pm
I have an order and a number from JXD, and it is marked as "processing".
I have no idea if that will change or if that means the S192 is shipped already?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 21, 2016, 04:00:16 am
My S192 is on the way I'm glad I paid for the express shipping! All goes well I should have my Jxd S192 in hand in 3-6 days.

sales@jxdofficial.com
10:38 PM (18 minutes ago)

to me
Hi,please don't worry.we have shipped it to my shipping agent,when i get tracking number,i will send it to you.

sales@jxdofficial.com
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 21, 2016, 06:13:24 am
Great to hear.
My wish is that the many delays make them use express shipping for everything. But that's just a dream I guess...:)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on May 21, 2016, 07:17:55 am
My S192 is on the way I'm glad I paid for the express shipping! All goes well I should have my Jxd S192 in hand in 3-6 days.

sales@jxdofficial.com
10:38 PM (18 minutes ago)

to me
Hi,please don't worry.we have shipped it to my shipping agent,when i get tracking number,i will send it to you.

sales@jxdofficial.com

Thats geat news... I guess I should be getting an email soon too... Can you check the status now... and then check again the status when you get the confirmation... just curious if the status changes from "Processing" to "Shipped" Mine still says "Processing" and I also paid  for the express but have yet to receive an email.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Pleng on May 21, 2016, 08:18:40 am
So should I be flattered or. annoyed, somone on this forum called funstock on the phone pretending to be me, and by the sounds of it more than 1 occasion as well.

Funstock said and I quote "I believe we've spoke many times over the phone"

Hmmm I think not. I would have said my name and order number if it was.

They're probably just trying to make it sound like they 'remember' you.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: xmcnuggetx on May 21, 2016, 12:05:33 pm
Yeah. It's pretty much released now.
Are you going to make another go for it?

Not sure.  I still think the device looks sweet.  Seems like exactly what I want in a android handheld (big screen, good processor, built in controls, ect).  The hard part is when I preordered in November I had a 10$ off coupon and the price was cheaper.  With fast shipping it was 275$.  Now for the same purchase it would be 355$.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: vcoleiro1 on May 21, 2016, 12:15:36 pm
Yeah. It's pretty much released now.
Are you going to make another go for it?

Not sure.  I still think the device looks sweet.  Seems like exactly what I want in a android handheld (big screen, good processor, built in controls, ect).  The hard part is when I preordered in November I had a 10$ off coupon and the price was cheaper.  With fast shipping it was 275$.  Now for the same purchase it would be 355$.

I guess you could try Geekbuying who were offering $50 off and free shipping up until May 22nd.
http://boards.dingoonity.org/jxd-devices/jxd-s192-in-stockreviewtest-video-$1-coupon/

Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 21, 2016, 03:02:33 pm
Suave6565 and SiliconMessiah you'll get a shipping/tracking number shortly. Your S192 is being processed and checked for shipping clearance. Yes it is shipped to you.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on May 21, 2016, 09:01:31 pm
I guess you could try Geekbuying who were offering $50 off and free shipping up until May 22nd.
http://boards.dingoonity.org/jxd-devices/jxd-s192-in-stockreviewtest-video-$1-coupon/

I wouldn't wish them on my worst enemy.  I've already got a Paypal claim against them.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on May 21, 2016, 11:32:19 pm
Suave6565 and SiliconMessiah you'll get a shipping/tracking number shortly. Your S192 is being processed and checked for shipping clearance. Yes it is shipped to you.

Thats great news... It looks like its really happening.

I guess you could try Geekbuying who were offering $50 off and free shipping up until May 22nd.
http://boards.dingoonity.org/jxd-devices/jxd-s192-in-stockreviewtest-video-$1-coupon/

I wouldn't wish them on my worst enemy.  I've already got a Paypal claim against them.

Hey Lord,  do you know if any one has had any issues with geekbuying... I know your situation is unfortunate but im thinking so was the those other vendors who were selling it. They were just in the dark as we were...i assume. I have a friend who wants to buy one using the $50.00 off and then again, I have another friend who who took advantage of the discount but is in the same boat as all of us. HE did however got a response saying that its processing now and that his order will be shipped as soon as it goes through clearence, a tracking will be provided.. I think they got the express through DHL.. The only thing is... this is the first time they ordering from them so hes not sure what to expect but wait like everyone else.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: ClawShrimp on May 22, 2016, 12:01:01 am
I've ordered from Geek Buying a couple of times and had no issues.

Over the years I've also ordered from Gearbest, Willgoo, Tinydeal, and pretty much every China-based seller online. Again, my experience with all of them had been similarly good.

However, problems generally only occur when you try to return a faulty product. ALL of these sellers will do their very best to talk you out of a warranty claim, and often advise you to repair it locally...at your own cost. If you insist on a replacement you'll almost always have to pay to ship the item to them; and when they ship it back to you it'll be via the cheapest/slowest method.

These are cheap sellers with small profit margins, after all.

There are always examples of people who have had an especially bad experience; but they're not indicative of a typical buying experience.

Long story short, I ordered the S192 from Geekbuying.

FYI if you're friend is interested he'd better act fast. The coupon expires today.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on May 22, 2016, 12:40:57 am
Hey Lord,  do you know if any one has had any issues with geekbuying... I know your situation is unfortunate but im thinking so was the those other vendors who were selling it. They were just in the dark as we were...i assume. I have a friend who wants to buy one using the $50.00 off and then again, I have another friend who who took advantage of the discount but is in the same boat as all of us. HE did however got a response saying that its processing now and that his order will be shipped as soon as it goes through clearence, a tracking will be provided.. I think they got the express through DHL.. The only thing is... this is the first time they ordering from them so hes not sure what to expect but wait like everyone else.

The issue is with their communication, and broken promises.  They told me at the end of March that if the device didn't ship "by the end of the week", we would use the funds on another device.  When it didn't ship, I emailed them to switch the device -- I never heard back.  After several emails, I've still not heard back from them still.  I filed a few through Paypal at the beginning of this month, and they ignored those too.

I've had several purchases from them, and this is now my second time having a big issue.  The last time, we were able to get it worked out after several months.  It sucks having your funds tied up for months, while they try to "fix" things, that they screwed up.  Now, they are just ignoring me.

Yes, there are quite a number of threads in these forums where people have had issues with Geekbuying.  Here are just a few:

http://boards.dingoonity.org/android-devices/beware-with-geekbuying/
http://boards.dingoonity.org/gpd-devices/black-friday-geekbuying-gpd-xd-only-$129-99/
http://boards.dingoonity.org/gpd-devices/what's-up-with-geekbuying-com-item-not-shipped-nobody-answering-my-emails/

Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on May 22, 2016, 12:53:02 am
I've ordered from Geek Buying a couple of times and had no issues.

Over the years I've also ordered from Gearbest, Willgoo, Tinydeal, and pretty much every China-based seller online. Again, my experience with all of them had been similarly good.

However, problems generally only occur when you try to return a faulty product. ALL of these sellers will do their very best to talk you out of a warranty claim, and often advise you to repair it locally...at your own cost. If you insist on a replacement you'll almost always have to pay to ship the item to them; and when they ship it back to you it'll be via the cheapest/slowest method.

These are cheap sellers with small profit margins, after all.

There are always examples of people who have had an especially bad experience; but they're not indicative of a typical buying experience.

Long story short, I ordered the S192 from Geekbuying.

FYI if you're friend is interested he'd better act fast. The coupon expires today.


Thank You Claw...

You're absolutely right about the Chinese based manufactures. They are good until you have to return an item. That seems to be the issue across the board. I purchased from gearbest and no issue. I once bought an adriod car radio from another vendor and their support was top notch. However, my luck, my radio had issues and I had to return it at my own expense. To make matters worse, they had to wait till my return was in their hands before they shipped my replacement. Although they paid for for shipping the replacement, the used the most cheapest and longest to get my replacement. It was almost wasn't worth it after a month of waiting. The good thing is that they triple checked that the replacement before they sent it out.

As for my friend, he did go ahead and do it.... he got the same response from others so hes going for it... As long as there is no issues, we are all fine... I think this is the fear we all have especially for a new product.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 22, 2016, 08:34:46 am
I always buy from a shop in my own country for this exact reason, sure I might not be the first to get the s192 compared to those who bought direct but electronics in my country have 3 years warranty with the company you bought from (NOT the supplier who are JXD)

If it was only a few quid I would have bought direct but at this price and going with their track record I can get a fix straight away if anything happens.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on May 22, 2016, 04:50:24 pm
I always buy from a shop in my own country for this exact reason, sure I might not be the first to get the s192 compared to those who bought direct but electronics in my country have 3 years warranty with the company you bought from (NOT the supplier who are JXD)

If it was only a few quid I would have bought direct but at this price and going with their track record I can get a fix straight away if anything happens.



Thats a good way to go for piece of mind. I think they have places like that here in the US but the majority are Chinese owned business that have some sort of connections with the manufacturer to buy from them in bulk at a super low price to then sell them in their stores for much more. You are basically  paying for a Return that is a much quicker process and less wait time. I know gearbest has something similar setup with warehouses in Europe and the US but im not the return process will go through US warehouse or directly to China.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 22, 2016, 04:57:48 pm
It doesn't matter who owns the business here in UK if they sell from the UK your covered by the 3yr warranty wether they like it or not and can get into trouble if they don't. And this goes for any uk retailer. :-)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 23, 2016, 01:35:33 pm
So this week 'could' be delivery week for some :-)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 23, 2016, 02:53:45 pm
So this week 'could' be delivery week for some :-)

I like your positivity, but I wouldn't hold my breath. Give it a week into June at least. Everything else is a bonus.

My order from JXD is still 'processing', although I don't understand what that means in the process.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 23, 2016, 03:22:11 pm
At least your order is processing. I still haven't received my shipping number yet that Jxd is supposed to send me from some mysterious shipping agent my S192 is with lol. Message from 2 days ago below.


sales@jxdofficial.com
10:38 PM (18 minutes ago)

to me
Hi,please don't worry.we have shipped it to my shipping agent,when i get tracking number,i will send it to you.

sales@jxdofficial.com
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 23, 2016, 03:23:40 pm
They must have hired somone to send all the parcels out for them ?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on May 23, 2016, 04:05:19 pm
Just wanted to update everyone.  Paypal finally closed the case against Geekbuying and refunded my money. 
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 23, 2016, 04:07:02 pm
Really it shouldn't have come to a claim, I would now send geekbuying an invoice for wasted time and stress. Tell them you will take them to court if not paid in 14 days. Ha-ha. Just for shits n giggles.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 23, 2016, 04:16:25 pm
Glad to hear you got your money back LordDavon! From the message I got from Jxd they are using both DHL and an Assortment of shipping companies by way of EMS.

sales@jxdofficial.com
May 20 (3 days ago)

to me
yes,of course.we ship it by DHL or EMS.

sales@jxdofficial.com


Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 23, 2016, 04:19:21 pm
Here's a link to EMS Tracking.    http://www.trackingex.com/ems-tracking/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=ems
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on May 23, 2016, 05:47:18 pm
Glad to hear you got your money back LordDavon! From the message I got from Jxd they are using both DHL and an Assortment of shipping companies by way of EMS.

sales@jxdofficial.com
May 20 (3 days ago)

to me
yes,of course.we ship it by DHL or EMS.

sales@jxdofficial.com

Thank you Elronza.  I already reordered via JXDOfficial.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on May 23, 2016, 05:51:00 pm
Really it shouldn't have come to a claim, I would now send geekbuying an invoice for wasted time and stress. Tell them you will take them to court if not paid in 14 days. Ha-ha. Just for shits n giggles.

I'm just glad it is over, and I didn't lose my money.  I ended up talking to Geekbuying last night too.  They refused to ship the device to me because I opened a Paypal claim against them and told me to close it, and I wouldn't close it unless they shipped it.  Then they just refused to send me the unit and told me Paypal would refund me.  I sent the conversation to Paypal, and they closed it overnight.

Then I just reordered from JXDOfficial.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 23, 2016, 05:52:34 pm
So, I guess we are all waiting for a number to be able to see where in the world our devices is being handled.
I hope that number will be visible for us. The days passes soooo slow ;).
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on May 23, 2016, 05:57:56 pm
So, I guess we are all waiting for a number to be able to see where in the world our devices is being handled.
I hope that number will be visible for us. The days passes soooo slow ;).

Honestly, the huge desire for the device has really been killed by the idea of a X1 Shield coming.  I love the speed of my Pixel C.  I almost didn't reorder, except that the funds were already cleared through the wife, and I didn't feel like begging asking again.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 23, 2016, 06:03:38 pm
LordDavon I too ordered using Jxd Official. The good thing I can say about having used their official store is that every time that I messaged them I received a reply within 3 days.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on May 23, 2016, 06:11:01 pm
LordDavon I too ordered using Jxd Official. The good thing I can say about having used their official store is that every time that I messaged them I received a reply within 3 days.

I had them in chat last night.  Took about 20 minutes to get a reply, but I did get one.  That's all I was really looking for.  So I put the order in.

@OffTopic Feel free to PM me a response, since this is off topic.  I know we were all talking about Oculus Rift before.  I got mine on Friday, and when I play SteamVR games, the non-VR ones, on the virtual screen, the Oculus stutters a bit.  Has anyone found a work-around?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: vcoleiro1 on May 24, 2016, 04:07:30 am
Russian Unboxing, Gameplay and Antutu 6.1.4 bench marking (62.2K)


#Invalid YouTube Link#
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 24, 2016, 05:01:30 am
Nice find. So this is our first real unboxing then.
Will look into this.

Now, let's hope for english next. :)

BTW: Isn't that a damn good Antutu-score?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on May 24, 2016, 05:38:34 am
As they trickle in, im sure someone will do a really good unboxing and review in a HQ format with close ups...im glad I held on to my order... By the way....my still says "processing" and my friend who bought his from geekbuying.com is also showing a status of "Processing"

At this point just going to wait instead of trying to find out if these guys had shipped my order every couple of days
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 24, 2016, 07:16:55 am

One of the first things i noticed in that video is the bullshit lies JXD has fed us!

One of the first delays was according to JXD because the device was going to be re-engineered so it only had 1 camera and the memory would be increased to 32gb !!

I can clearly see 2 cameras on that device. the back camera is visible as he takes it out the box, and the front camera is visible when he holds it up and when the camera pans over it.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on May 24, 2016, 07:50:50 am
I can clearly see 2 cameras on that device. the back camera is visible as he takes it out the box, and the front camera is visible when he holds it up and when the camera pans over it.

I'm not so sure it is clear.  It does look like there is an area where the camera could be, but it also could just be an indent in the plastic.  The specs only show a front facing camera, and Antutu was showing 26GB free, so the RAM was upgraded from the original 16GB.  We won't know for sure until the rest of the reviews come in, or it is in our hands.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: halljames on May 24, 2016, 07:59:12 am
I wish the video showed some better games. It may just be the video itself, but the games looked kind of jittery making me doubt the power of the device.

It was probably just the video though. Looks massive as well, but I like it  :)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: mixwell on May 24, 2016, 09:22:15 am
I have a tracking number!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: algorithm on May 24, 2016, 09:35:58 am
That device looks like a Nvidia Shield tablet (probably near identical internals) with a PEGA 9023 Controller attachment :-)   
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: ClawShrimp on May 24, 2016, 10:17:35 am
Wow.
That has got to be one of the worst unboxing/demo videos I've ever seen :)
He barely showed the device, didn't load any emulators, and played a game using touch controls only!
Classic.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on May 24, 2016, 10:44:54 am
Nice find. So this is our first real unboxing then.
Will look into this.

Now, let's hope for english next. :)

BTW: Isn't that a damn good Antutu-score?

The shield tablet with same specs give more  than 90000, so it seems it performs much worse than shield tablet. Though antutu is not precisely a very reliable test for almost anything. They shoukd check if screen refresh rate is 60 hz, which is essential for accurate emulation.
Seeing the video, it seems it comes with unified storage (so no SWAP) and android 4.4. I don't understand why they don't release with at least Lollipop when shiield tablet runs 6.0.1 and wth vulkan support.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 24, 2016, 11:01:10 am
Ouch. Much worse performance than the Shield Tablet? That does not sound promising...

I got a tracking number too. Works fine to track it! Nice JXD!  8)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: algorithm on May 24, 2016, 11:25:09 am
Nice find. So this is our first real unboxing then.
Will look into this.

Now, let's hope for english next. :)

BTW: Isn't that a damn good Antutu-score?

The shield tablet with same specs give more  than 90000, so it seems it performs much worse than shield tablet. Though antutu is not precisely a very reliable test for almost anything. They shoukd check if screen refresh rate is 60 hz, which is essential for accurate emulation.
Seeing the video, it seems it comes with unified storage (so no SWAP) and android 4.4. I don't understand why they don't release with at least Lollipop when shiield tablet runs 6.0.1 and wth vulkan support.

I think the scoring system on Antutu has changed in recent versions.    Even the Galaxy S6 scores around 82,000 on Antutu. (Much powerful CPU, but GPU not as powerful) I would assume around 50/60k is around right for the Shield Tablet.  I have one indoors and will give that a test at some point using the new Antutu. 

Just had a quick google and the average antutu scores for the NVidia shield tablet using recent antutu is around 52-55k, hence the 62k in this S192 is rather nice.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: vcoleiro1 on May 24, 2016, 11:30:38 am
That goes along with what I thought as well, older Antutu versions seem to give considerably higher scores than more current versions. 

I suppose to compare , you would need to know the Antutu versions of both.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on May 24, 2016, 11:32:54 am

They are using antutu 6.14 version in the video, which is the same I have in my shield tablet, and my tablet scores more than 90000 with the exact same version. So unles they ran the benchmark in powersave mode or something, it seems it performs worse.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: algorithm on May 24, 2016, 11:59:50 am
Does Antutu on your device pause for quite some time in the multithreaded benchmark section?    This may be a bug perhaps (Same thing happened when I used antutu 6.14 on the GPD) and that scored over 70,000 which is incorrect. 

Every single Nvidia shield benchmark in Antutu using recent versions do not seem to exceed 60,000 which also includes the nexus 9 (Same GPU but Denver 64bit).   Score of 90,000 imo is not valid (That would place the device in the top tier of current devices)

edit:  It seems that on marshmallow, 90k+ scores are achieved....  Quite a difference 50/60k to 90k.. something does not seem right.   
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on May 24, 2016, 12:09:02 pm
Does Antutu on your device pause for quite some time in the multithreaded benchmark section?    This may be a bug perhaps (Same thing happened when I used antutu 6.14 on the GPD) and that scored over 70,000 which is incorrect. 

Every single Nvidia shield benchmark in Antutu using recent versions do not seem to exceed 60,000 which also includes the nexus 9 (Same GPU but Denver 64bit).   Score of 90,000 imo is not valid (That would place the device in the top tier of current devices)   

Nope, I don't notice anything strange running antutu in my shield tablet. In fact seeing geforce forums it seems it scores about 90000 for most people. I think 60000 points for tegra k1 is not very good, because my redmi note 2 scores 58000 and is much worse in specs than tegra K1. Anyhow, benchmarks are pretty useless, the best benchmarks is running emus and games. I personally play pretty much the same things in GPD XD than my shield tablet, except tegra exclusive games or uoyabause than runs much better in tegra k1. But some PSP games for example are not full speed either in the shield tablet, (like Dante's inferno or Silent Hill). In my shield tablet I must run HD filters for most emus though, because if not they look too ugly due to excessive resolution in the tablet.

Maybe the fact that Shield tablet runs 6.0.1 and more recent opengL drivers (3.2) helps with the scores in comparison with this JXD, but who knows.... JXD should have released with Lollipop at least in my opinion, because they must have access to tegra SDK.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: algorithm on May 24, 2016, 12:21:15 pm
Could be the inclusion of marshmallow.  Seems 90k scores are achieved (according to forums) on marshmallow, but on Lollipop scores of 50-60k are more common.     Quite a dramatic difference.   
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on May 24, 2016, 12:25:01 pm
Yep, Antutu is not a very reliable test anyhow. GPD XD scores about 40000 and runs gamnes and emus better than my phone that scores more. For gaming the best test is just trying demanding emus (uoyabause or some PSP titles, with frameskip 0 of course).
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 24, 2016, 12:48:08 pm
Firstly I too have a tracking number. Secondly for all the Marshmallow/Lollipop wanting trust me you don't want it on this device! I own an Nvidia Shield Portable and Android Lollipop has messed up game compatibility as well as the battery life and sound quality of the Shield Portable. Not to mention Android Lollipop allows less games to be transferred to Sd. And most of all Retroarch, and other emulators and emulation stores like Happy Chick have either been severely affected or no longer work!😞
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on May 24, 2016, 01:35:18 pm
Firstly I too have a tracking number. Secondly for all the Marshmallow/Lollipop wanting trust me you don't want it on this device! I own an Nvidia Shield Portable and Android Lollipop has messed up game compatibility as well as the battery life and sound quality of the Shield Portable. Not to mention Android Lollipop allows less games to be transferred to Sd. And most of all Retroarch, and other emulators and emulation stores like Happy Chick have either been severely affected or no longer work!😞

Maybe it's a problem with shield portable, but shield tablet runs amazing with marshmallow. You don't need to transfer games to SD because you can make your Sd as part of internal storage in marshmalllow. No idea about happy chick, (I don't use warez stores, I prefer using original emus and games) but Retroarch works perfect in shield tablet. All emus run fine in Shield tablet with marshmallow.

My phone runs Lollipop and no problems either transferring games to SD with folder mount (it requires root) or using emulators. I have never used a shield portable, but perhaps nvidia did a crap job with their firmware in the portable.

This JXD seem to use unified storage, so unless it has a direct option to move games to SD, you will need to use folder mount too to move them. (and root the device in case it's not rooted)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on May 24, 2016, 02:07:47 pm
Firstly I too have a tracking number. Secondly for all the Marshmallow/Lollipop wanting trust me you don't want it on this device! I own an Nvidia Shield Portable and Android Lollipop has messed up game compatibility as well as the battery life and sound quality of the Shield Portable. Not to mention Android Lollipop allows less games to be transferred to Sd. And most of all Retroarch, and other emulators and emulation stores like Happy Chick have either been severely affected or no longer work!😞

I have a tracking number!

I'm living vicariously through you guys. I think at this moment, with so much anticipation to finally get this device in our hands, it feels as if like winning the lottery. It's just a matter of who comes forward first with their device. Once we ALL get our devices, then that's when we can truly see what the benchmarks are and how well it does/doesn't work.

I have to say,  in such short amount of time, I grew to like this place and not to mention the wealth of information on these devices and all the good members here. I haven't really ventured out of this topic post from here but I feel like im part of some sort of brotherhood with the same interest.. I must admit, i'm not as knowledgeable when it comes to the technical side (though I am technical) of things but im eager to learn what my device can  really do with the help of you guys.. I know this may not be the best place to post this and may be off topic for a bit but this is the place that started everything  with the s192!!

Hats off to you guys who go above and beyond to share the knowledge


By the way...my order still says "processing"... Waiting patiently... I know mine is coming soon and iits soon going to be a reality.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 24, 2016, 02:41:19 pm
Skelton good morning I'm in Temple Terrace Florida Eastern Standard Time. I must give credit where it's due! For those of you who don't know Skelton has single handedly created more custom firmwares and helped out others with their Android devices over the years than anyone else hands down. So all us squire's need to bow thine heads cause a Knight of the Android Handheld battlefield is amongst us! In all seriousness Skelton it pleases me to see you feeling better and commenting more in these forums. Your ROM for the Gpd Xd has been a blessing from the God's!  Also I forgot one very important thing and that is that the Nvidia Shield Portable has a Tegra 4 where as the Jxd S192 and the Nvidia Shield Tablet have the Tegra K1, so maybe the difference in one having arm cortex a15 cores and the others having arm cortex a17 cores makes a difference with which Android versions can be used?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: kristianity77 on May 24, 2016, 02:51:20 pm
Skelton, do you have the Sheild tablet?  I've been looking at one of these for the past few days as they seem to be a decent price in the UK at the moment.  And I'd like to believe that they are a damn site more reliable hardware wise than current GPD and JXD devices.  Any issues with them at all?  I've read in places that battery life is a bit poor, is this true?  Also, is it a 60hz device, no other issues?

Also, does it play nice with pretty much any controller you might want to attach to it?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on May 24, 2016, 03:07:51 pm
Skelton, do you have the Sheild tablet?  I've been looking at one of these for the past few days as they seem to be a decent price in the UK at the moment.  And I'd like to believe that they are a damn site more reliable hardware wise than current GPD and JXD devices.  Any issues with them at all?  I've read in places that battery life is a bit poor, is this true?  Also, is it a 60hz device, no other issues?

Also, does it play nice with pretty much any controller you might want to attach to it?

I have one. Screen refresh rate is 59.80, works fine with retroarch though, but it should be at least 59.94 hz. I only used it with a ipega 9023. Didn't try other controllers. Battery during game is quite poor, between 3 or 4 hours. But to be honest, i don't use it too much for playing games, because it's very big for me, and the ipega 9023 is a pretty bad controller.in my.opinon,so i normally use gpd xd, i prefer small devices. Performance wise ln emulators there is.no big difference between the gpd and the shield, except for uoyabause.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on May 24, 2016, 03:15:49 pm
Skelton good morning I'm in Temple Terrace Florida Eastern Standard Time. I must give credit where it's due! For those of you who don't know Skelton has single handedly created more custom firmwares and helped out others with their Android devices over the years than anyone else hands down. So all us squire's need to bow thine heads cause a Knight of the Android Handheld battlefield is amongst us! In all seriousness Skelton it pleases me to see you feeling better and commenting more in these forums. Your ROM for the Gpd Xd has been a blessing from the God's!  Also I forgot one very important thing and that is that the Nvidia Shield Portable has a Tegra 4 where as the Jxd S192 and the Nvidia Shield Tablet have the Tegra K1, so maybe the difference in one having arm cortex a15 cores and the others having arm cortex a17 cores makes a difference with which Android versions can be used?

I think tegra 4 is a15 too. Perhaps NVIDIA didn't make a good firmware with the portable, i don't know.  But at least in the case of the tablet it runs good with marshnallow. Mine came with lollipop but i updated the first day to marshnallow, so i cannot compare it with lollipop or kitkat.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 24, 2016, 04:34:27 pm
A few updates. First my Jxd S192 Singularity is now at the Cincinnati Ohio DHL Hub. Second I did a lil research and the Shield Portable and Tablet as well as the Jxd S192 all have the arm cortex a15. The difference is that the Nvidia Shield Tablet and the Jxd S192 have the arm cortex a15r3.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 24, 2016, 04:56:46 pm
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Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on May 24, 2016, 05:16:02 pm
...I'm in Temple Terrace Florida Eastern Standard Time...
Small world.  I'm in Orlando.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 24, 2016, 05:33:29 pm
Wow. I hear you guys! Great!
I am in Europe and will probably have to wait a little bit longer.

Looking forward to your pick-up reports! You are all a great crowd.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 24, 2016, 06:25:18 pm
Wow SiliconMessiah I thought for sure you in the UK/Europe would be the first ones to receive your Jxd's outside of those in China! And LordDavon you're only 30mins to an hour away from me depending on traffic of course.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: fofo33 on May 24, 2016, 06:43:41 pm
Who'll be the first of you who upload in you tube the first decent emulator gaming review?  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Remember the Dolphin test.  :P
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on May 24, 2016, 07:17:05 pm
Who'll be the first of you who upload in you tube the first decent emulator gaming review?  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Remember the Dolphin test.  :P

Dolphin doesn't run ok on tegra k1. It needs a tegra X1. Dolphin developers gave up development to 32 bit SoC in Android.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: fofo33 on May 24, 2016, 07:33:48 pm
Who'll be the first of you who upload in you tube the first decent emulator gaming review?  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Remember the Dolphin test.  :P

Dolphin doesn't run ok on tegra k1. It needs a tegra X1. Dolphin developers gave up development to 32 bit SoC in Android.

Yep, I know it, you said it to me in the past, but don't broke my fantasy/illusion.   :D
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 24, 2016, 07:55:15 pm
Wow SiliconMessiah I thought for sure you in the UK/Europe would be the first ones to receive your Jxd's outside of those in China! And LordDavon you're only 30mins to an hour away from me depending on traffic of course.

Yeah, maybe. Looking at my tracker/departing cargo planes to possible destinations, I can say with certainty that my JXD is in the air right now. My wild guess is that it will be here in next week...after going through the customs and all that stuff.

I guess some people here will get it before the weekend?


SOME KIND OF NEW UNBOXING JUST IN.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-r7hUOMMd5A
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 25, 2016, 02:20:09 am
I might just have my Jxd Singularity S192 in hand tomorrow and highly more likely this week. It has passed Customs and is in route to me now.


Further Detail:
Shipment has been given a release by Customs.
Next Step:
Unless there is an adhoc exam or a stop by another regulatory authority the shipment will proceed to delivery
Destination Service Area:
TAMPA - EAST, FL - TEMPLE TERRACE - USA
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on May 25, 2016, 03:30:22 am
Thats great news...Im happy for you Elronza Williams Jr!

Can't wait to hear the verdict and hopefully follow up with a good comparison with the devices you currently own..

Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on May 25, 2016, 05:23:51 am
That's awesome Elronza!  I hope you get it tomorrow.  Spend some good time with it, and let me know if you find any hesitation in the OS.  I don't have any on my Shield Tablet, but it runs Android 6.  I am hoping that 4.4 won't show any lag.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 25, 2016, 06:03:19 am
I am very interested in how the Nvidia Gamestream from PC works... 8)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 25, 2016, 09:43:50 am
BREAKING NEWS:
Just got a call from DHL that they were at my door with the JXD s192.
As I am working right now, they will have to deliver it to the post office to pick it up.

My JXD s192 is in my hands in 4 hours!
If I wasn't working I would already have it.

Wow! Fastest shipment ever. That's just hours to Europe from China.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 25, 2016, 01:32:51 pm
Thank you very much everyone. Not to worry I have an Alienware 18 with 2 Gtx 880m's in Sli so testing out Gamestream will be no problem. Gamestream is one of the reasons why I bought this device. And that's awesome SiliconMessiah! I told you that I was certain that you and others in the UK/Europe would receive yours first.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: eragon2890 on May 25, 2016, 01:39:25 pm
When geekbuying send me my GPD XD august last year, it was in DHL hand´s Tuesday morning at around 11:00.

It was delivered wednesday morning, at 11:00, in my house in the Netherlands. 24 hours from Hong Kong to my house.

DHL has speed. Sonic speed.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 25, 2016, 01:57:50 pm
As of 15min's ago my Jxd S192 has made a landing in your town of Orlando Florida LordDavon lol. So for certain I'll either have my Jxd today or tomorrow.




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Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 25, 2016, 02:20:12 pm
Home and unboxing it now!  8)

Seems nice and all, but the analogue sticks has some sloppiness to them. It kind of seems that they might wear out fast.
Very light weight and good on the hands. Screen is fine. Seems like a good device.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 25, 2016, 03:55:50 pm
Well I will have my Jxd S192 in hand shortly!


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Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: halljames on May 25, 2016, 04:12:34 pm
Nice video that shows the JXD in action with some emulators and PS4 remote play.

https://youtu.be/Kf6byEKB90Q

Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on May 25, 2016, 04:48:06 pm
As of 15min's ago my Jxd S192 has made a landing in your town of Orlando Florida LordDavon lol. So for certain I'll either have my Jxd today or tomorrow.




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Dang it!  I could have grabbed it for you, and got it all nicely broken in.  ;-)  I hope you get it today!

Hey, does this require a signature for delivery?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 25, 2016, 05:19:12 pm
Well here we finally are. The device is in my hands as we speak. Black and shiny and sharp. I even got the HDMI-bonus cable. Feels amazing after those months that we have been here, waiting.

I wonder what happened to all the people that were active in this thread one year ago.
Did they lose interest? Did they cancel their orders?

Question. The charger-input was not created for what we have in our walls here in Euroland.
I wonder what kind of AC-adapter I should use instead? Maybe I should buy an Nvidia shield world charger?

EDIT: Yes. I will buy an Nvidia World Charger as I also need an Euro-AC-adapter for my Shield Portable. I think it will work fine with the s192 too. :)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: halljames on May 25, 2016, 05:32:30 pm
I found this on the web :

The standard Micro-USB port is used for charging as well as connecting a range of USB accessories. It also allows the tablet to run in ‘device mode,’ which enables easy transfer of files between your PC and S192. However, we advise the user use the 5V 3A original S192 charger to charge.

I have to admit, I assumed it was just USB charging anyway, that's me not doing my research properly.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 25, 2016, 05:47:22 pm
I have my Jxd S192 in hand. I'll post some pics shortly with a rundown.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 25, 2016, 06:17:37 pm
I have my Jxd S192 in hand. I'll post some pics shortly with a rundown.

Looking forward to it Elronza!
Want to see your feelings and take on the analogue sticks. As I said. I feel that they might be a little on the loose side.
But maybe, that is just me. Overall, a nice device so far.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on May 25, 2016, 06:20:49 pm
Does it have clickable sticks?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 25, 2016, 06:23:26 pm
Does it have clickable sticks?

Yep.
They also have a very large movement area, and that is probably why they feel a little on the loose side.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: kristianity77 on May 25, 2016, 06:28:51 pm
All I want to know about the device is, someone load up something like SNES.EMu or GBA.EMU and let us know both of the following:

A: What the screen refresh is reporting

and

B:  What the emulator reports if you have it test.

Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 25, 2016, 06:37:14 pm
Whoever it was that said use folder mount instead, it doesn't work. I've been battling with trying to use my SD card fully on my phone since I bought it, you can 'move to sd' but editing the mount points, editing fstab, folder mount etc etc does not work.

I have recently upgraded to marshmallow (and back again) as they brought it adoptable storage but turns out Samsung in their infinite wisdom removed that option!??!!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 25, 2016, 06:49:03 pm
You can get a good quality 3amp charger from eBay for a out £15 I think it was , I bought one for my raspberry Pi 3 as it uses a bit more juice especially with extra bits on it.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on May 25, 2016, 07:02:39 pm
Nice video that shows the JXD in action with some emulators and PS4 remote play.

https://youtu.be/Kf6byEKB90Q

It dos look good. The screen makes a big difference!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 25, 2016, 07:28:44 pm
Is the screen better than the s7800 or same ips panel?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: eragon2890 on May 25, 2016, 07:38:01 pm
Nice video that shows the JXD in action with some emulators and PS4 remote play.

https://youtu.be/Kf6byEKB90Q

It dos look good. The screen makes a big difference!


after all that waiting, it does like pretty awesome, but far far far far faaarrrrr too expensive for me! 0_0
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 25, 2016, 07:44:42 pm
The screen is very high quality I dare say almost Oled quality like my PS Vita. Of course the screen is much higher resolution than my PS Vita. The analogs feel like a cross between a Ps3 controller and a Shield Portables. One thing to note is that even though the device weighs a few grams heaver than the Nvidia Shield Portable it feels much lighter, thanks to the snowshoe effect of its weight being spread out! All and all this is a very high quality device, that doesn't rattle when shaken creak or any other defects like feeling cheap or flimsy. And it gets no hotter than my Nvidia Shield Portable.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 25, 2016, 07:51:14 pm
The screen is very high quality I dare say almost Oled quality like my PS Vita. Of course the screen is much higher resolution than my PS Vita. The analogs feel like a cross between a Ps3 controller and a Shield Portables. One thing to note is that even though the device weighs a few grams heaver than the Nvidia Shield Portable it feels much lighter, thanks to the snowshoe effect of its weight being spread out! All and all this is a very high quality device, that doesn't rattle when shaken creak or any other defects like feeling cheap or flimsy. And it gets no hotter than my Nvidia Shield Portable.

Absolutely. This is a high quality device. I totally agree.
I am glad that the fears were not true. Great!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: kristianity77 on May 25, 2016, 07:52:29 pm
So.....any news on the refresh rates?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 25, 2016, 07:54:28 pm
Can you try out Gamestream? Would love to hear if you can run like Fallout 4 on it, and how it runs! =)
I am moving right now, so my computer with the GTX980 is stashed away.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 25, 2016, 07:59:39 pm
I'll test gamestreaming and report back shortly. Eating late lunch now. I haven't loaded any emulators yet.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 25, 2016, 08:08:07 pm
I'll test gamestreaming and report back shortly. Eating late lunch now. I haven't loaded any emulators yet.

Perfect. I´ll wait!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 25, 2016, 08:16:50 pm
LordDavon yes DHL required a signature.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 25, 2016, 10:28:17 pm
Sorry I can't test gamestreaming as Shield Hub both did not come pre-installed on this device nor even after sideloading would it allow me to use GeForce Now or Gamestream as they don't even show!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 25, 2016, 10:40:27 pm
Install Moonlight. Used to be called Limelight.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 25, 2016, 11:43:49 pm
Okay I game-streamed Evolve and Castlevaina Lords of Shadow 2 using Moonlight and everything worked pretty well at 1080p 60fps. Although I prefer Nvidia's game-stream and I have a Geforce Now subscription so I would like to use it on my Jxd S192.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 25, 2016, 11:53:17 pm
On a good note my Sandisk 200gb micro sdxc was instantly recognized by my Jxd S192 without any calibrating whatsoever! 183gb's of extra storage is quite nice. Link below of my sdcard.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/sandisk-ultra-200gb-microsdxc-class-10-uhs-i-memory-card-black/6330207.p?id=1219661891262&skuId=6330207&cmp=RMX&ref=17&loc=11&CampaignID=789277&SubscriberID=415042240



Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: vcoleiro1 on May 26, 2016, 12:29:09 am
Someone please run Antutu and report back the score.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on May 26, 2016, 12:56:30 am
The big question... is it rooted?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 26, 2016, 03:09:07 am
As far as I can tell no the Jxd S192 isn't rooted. The good news is NDS games run perfectly with Drastic. Which I have the paid version of Drastic,not that I think it really makes a difference just stating what I have. PSP games run very well using Ppsspp by way of HappyChick. And most controller supported Android games need no mapping.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: vcoleiro1 on May 26, 2016, 03:26:24 am
As far as I can tell no the Jxd S192 isn't rooted. The good news is NDS games run perfectly with Drastic. Which I have the paid version of Drastic,not that I think it really makes a difference just stating what I have. PSP games run very well using Ppsspp by way of HappyChick. And most controller supported Android games need no mapping.

Are you able to run Antutu on it.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 26, 2016, 03:42:48 am
Sorry I can't test gamestreaming as Shield Hub both did not come pre-installed on this device nor even after sideloading would it allow me to use GeForce Now or Gamestream as they don't even show!

No Shield Hub.
This is such a big disappointment for me. I also have Geforce NOW.

No original Gamestream (without limelight)? And no Geforce NOW?
Huge bummer.

I wonder if we'll get the Shield Hub in a future update?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 26, 2016, 04:02:49 am
Yeah I too love Geforce Now. And it sucks not being able to use it. I'll try Antutu shortly not that I really think it shows in detail what a device is capable of. For example my Gpd Xd scores under my Nvidia Shield Portable in some tests but ask anyone who has both devices does the Shield not get shown up by the Gpd Xd most of the time in real life usage!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 26, 2016, 04:15:32 am
Alright the Antutu Benchmark score is 63,657 using v6.1.4
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Virus_God on May 26, 2016, 05:11:06 am
(http://www.mx7.com/i/e6c/DA0c73.JPG) (http://www.mx7.com/view2/z7WDXVliAbTIqhFb)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: AlphaWhelp on May 26, 2016, 06:05:32 am
I just got ahold of this device myself today.  I was wondering if there was a way to root this device and install a nVidia Shield Tablet K1 ROM on it since they use the same chipset.  I'd like to be able to access the nVidia Shield ability to use the controller to emulate touch/taps/swipes/etc.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: vcoleiro1 on May 26, 2016, 06:52:12 am
Alright the Antutu Benchmark score is 63,657 using v6.1.4

Thanks for doing this.

I wonder why there is such a discrepancy between the Antutu on this and the Shield Tablet
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 26, 2016, 06:54:16 am
There must be SOME way to shoe-horn in the Shield Hub into the s192...
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 26, 2016, 06:56:07 am
Thanks for doing this.
I wonder why there is such a discrepancy between the Antutu on this and the Shield Tablet
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Yeah, weird as they both rocks a K1 chip. I have no idea.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 26, 2016, 07:38:46 am
It doesn't surprise me that the game stream app doesn't work, after all its not a shield device, it just has the K1 chip in it.

Im more concerned about the root not being given by default, its a little bit disappointing.

When you say you have all that storage available, thats you just adding it up right? the SD isnt being used as standard install space?

Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 26, 2016, 08:19:25 am
But the Shield Hub-app was to be seen in the videos that preceded the release. So it HAS been in there at some point.

And about the rooting.
I wonder if Nvidia has told JXD to keep the device as locked up as possible, due to them having their chip in it?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 26, 2016, 08:25:12 am
Ohh maybe, but I may have wrongly assumed the sheild stuff was rooted from factory?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 26, 2016, 09:58:37 am
A7mag3ddon no my 200gb micro SD Xc card equals 183gbs of storage on its own totally separate from the on board storage which is about 26gbs. And Silicone Messiah me and my wife both feel Jxd pulled one over on everyone because you can clearly see the Shield Hub both in Jxds videos and pictures on their website. And most of all they advertised the S192 as having Geforce Now and PC gamestreaming. The messed up part is none of that is listed in the S192's specs anymore but I have screen shots saved from where it was there! I have also already messaged Jxd how do they plan to fix this issue?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 26, 2016, 10:08:01 am
They won't be able to fix it, unless it's broken. I suspect they weren't allowed to include it because as I said, it's not a shield device.

There was a trick you could do on the old s7800, and one of the firmware makers watching this thread could confirm, you were able  to alter a file called fstab to make Google play store think you had a different device, my s7800 is set to Samsung s5 so I can install all the programs I use on my phone.

This may of course have been removed from newer firmwares.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 26, 2016, 10:13:05 am
Funny enough if you use Jxd Hk from your Androidor Mobile  device and go to the S192's specs you'll still see that it is being advertised as having Geforce Now and Shield Hub and Gamestreaming! Here's screenshots proving such to be true. Which doesn't show any more using a PC/Laptop on Jxd Hk or at all on Jxd's official website. I think we were hoodwinked!😠
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 26, 2016, 10:15:37 am
Mobile site is different to non mobile site, they just haven't updated it yet. Best let them know ?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 26, 2016, 10:16:48 am
Game stream is not on my priority list anyways, I didn't spend 2.5K on my desktop to stream it to my portal device which has to have a good inet connection for it to work anyways.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 26, 2016, 10:37:23 am
For me Gamestream+Shield Hub was a great priority.
I already have emulation-devices to run the older stuff.

For me, this was a letdown. I hope Gamestream gets added in a firmware update.  ???
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: eragon2890 on May 26, 2016, 10:42:42 am
okay must admit despite price now that there are actual pictures and videos this looks good. VERY good.

Much better quality it looks like then the older JXD units - I don't see pieces falling of anyway.

How is the firmware? stable? fast? No crashes and other JXD firmware specialties of old?

If the quality is as outstanding as it looks I might go and save money for one. :)

Also, correct me if I am wrong, but isn't moonlight literally the same as geforce streaming? Like reverse engineered but works exactly the same? then, you don't miss out on much right?

Finally, very important question for me: I assume the tegra exclusive games including greats like half life 2,  portal, the talos principle, trine 2, etc. WILL work on this device right because it has a K1? :)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 26, 2016, 10:42:53 am
I don't know what the hub thing is (like steam?) But moonlight can stream games from pc.

Can hub not be installed from an apk ?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 26, 2016, 10:46:56 am
Can hub not be installed from an apk ?

I think Elronza did try that. But it didn't work...😟

Moonlight works, but it's not the official thing. I wanted this to be my motor between my GTX 980 and shield TV. And also to be able to access my games on Geforce NOW.

I will cancel my subscription on Geforce NOW.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 26, 2016, 11:05:07 am
What error does it give when trying to install Elronza?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on May 26, 2016, 11:11:40 am
Most probably shield hub and GeForce now only work ln official NVIDIA hardware, and this jxd just use a k1, but it's nlt an NVIDIA device. Also, perhaps GeForce now and hub requieres an updated versión of android? Just a thought, i have never used gamesreamkng. About root, probably you will need to unñock bootloader and flash a rooted ramdisk or a custom recovery.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 26, 2016, 11:23:54 am
Side loading the latest updated version of the Shield Hub apk is no problem. But even after doing so the Geforce Now and PC gamestreaming portions are absent! And as far as the firmware and operating system go the Jxd S192 is both more stable and compatible with more games than my Nvidia Shield Portable.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 26, 2016, 11:24:02 am
Sounds scary, will the sheild flashes be compatible? Mind you it's unlocked  anyway isn't it.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 26, 2016, 11:32:08 am
My only worry about flashing the S192 as a Shield Tablet is that we might loose controller function as the Shield Tablet doesn't feature an integrated controller.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 26, 2016, 11:37:08 am
I meant only the bootloader.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 26, 2016, 11:47:54 am
Interesting...I wonder if we might see Gamestream down the line.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 26, 2016, 12:08:00 pm
I doubt officially
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 26, 2016, 12:15:27 pm
I doubt officially

I hear you. But I have been around this stuff too long to be a doubter.
Suddenly. Things just happen.

BTW: Have you got your s192 yet Armageddon?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 26, 2016, 12:21:20 pm
No! Have I buggery. Funstock said will be min another week. Grrrr. Least all the initial bugs might be highlighted by then.

Elronza - is the rear camera on yours? I've seen a few unboxing vids now and they have the camera hole in the case. Is there a camera there.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 26, 2016, 12:25:43 pm
Probably get it quicker if I cancel and re-order with jxd direct.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: hexdump on May 26, 2016, 12:31:33 pm
Hi,

Is there any possiblity to get the d-pad reviewed? What about the battery duration with games and emulators?

Thanks a lot in advance.

Cheers.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: mixwell on May 26, 2016, 12:32:15 pm
Mines out for delivery today.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 26, 2016, 12:35:27 pm
Seems like more people is getting this device. That is good for future development among us.  ;D
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: xmcnuggetx on May 26, 2016, 12:40:26 pm
So I'm thinking of re-ordering one, but I'd love to hear more or see more videos of the device in action first.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 26, 2016, 12:47:01 pm
Hexdump the D-Pad is fine much better than my Shield Portable or my Gpd Xd. No there's no back camera. I'll post my Youtube video review later today.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 26, 2016, 12:48:50 pm
Ok cool,look forward to seeing. It.

The other question, on all the other videos the icons look huuuge. What's that about?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 26, 2016, 12:50:30 pm
As far as battery life it appears very long. But I'm testing this fully before I post my video review and comparison to my other Android handhelds.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 26, 2016, 12:51:28 pm
As far as it comes to emulators, this is a nice device, have no doubts about it.
But if it's worth the price/performance compared to the s7800b is up to your wallet to decide.

It will probably run the DS/PSP/DC/N64 emulator a little better, but that's about it. And some Android-games of course.
But that is about it.


I am so disappointed in the Shield Hub being absent.

Armageddon: The icon-view is something you can change, or so I heard.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 26, 2016, 12:52:11 pm
The Icons are huge I guess as a result of the 7inch screen size?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: eragon2890 on May 26, 2016, 01:46:38 pm
As far as it comes to emulators, this is a nice device, have no doubts about it.
But if it's worth the price/performance compared to the s7800b is up to your wallet to decide.

It will probably run the DS/PSP/DC/N64 emulator a little better, but that's about it. And some Android-games of course.
But that is about it.


I am so disappointed in the Shield Hub being absent.

Armageddon: The icon-view is something you can change, or so I heard.


Maybe it runs the ds, dc, n64 emus better then the rk3188-s7800b, I don;t know, but I can;t imagine it runs them better then my GPD XD - because they are already perfect in the XD even with upscaling to 720p. Can't get better then perfect. (except for glitches in some dc games, but that are emulator bugs).

PSP might be better then the xd, but even then the vast majority of PSP games I tried already runs full speed with 720 p rendering... this si not motivating me to buy one :-(
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 26, 2016, 01:48:35 pm
The Icons are huge I guess as a result of the 7inch screen size?
No, s7800 is also 7". More likely a setting perhaps.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on May 26, 2016, 01:52:10 pm
The Icons are huge I guess as a result of the 7inch screen size?

Perhaps lcd density is too low, os it's just the default launcher that JXD setup that way. Perhaps with a different launcher are smaller
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 26, 2016, 01:55:38 pm
As far as it comes to emulators, this is a nice device, have no doubts about it.
But if it's worth the price/performance compared to the s7800b is up to your wallet to decide.

It will probably run the DS/PSP/DC/N64 emulator a little better, but that's about it. And some Android-games of course.
But that is about it.


I am so disappointed in the Shield Hub being absent.

Armageddon: The icon-view is something you can change, or so I heard.


Maybe it runs the ds, dc, n64 emus better then the rk3188-s7800b, I don;t know, but I can;t imagine it runs them better then my GPD XD - because they are already perfect in the XD even with upscaling to 720p. Can't get better then perfect. (except for glitches in some dc games, but that are emulator bugs).

PSP might be better then the xd, but even then the vast majority of PSP games I tried already runs full speed with 720 p rendering... this si not motivating me to buy one :-(
I will be running some tests using dolphin, n64 and ppsspp on my s7800 and making notes where they glitch or play up so u can compare. For example on my phone ghosts n goblins plays not too bad but the sound glitches terribly.

Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: eragon2890 on May 26, 2016, 01:59:49 pm
As far as it comes to emulators, this is a nice device, have no doubts about it.
But if it's worth the price/performance compared to the s7800b is up to your wallet to decide.

It will probably run the DS/PSP/DC/N64 emulator a little better, but that's about it. And some Android-games of course.
But that is about it.


I am so disappointed in the Shield Hub being absent.

Armageddon: The icon-view is something you can change, or so I heard.


Maybe it runs the ds, dc, n64 emus better then the rk3188-s7800b, I don;t know, but I can;t imagine it runs them better then my GPD XD - because they are already perfect in the XD even with upscaling to 720p. Can't get better then perfect. (except for glitches in some dc games, but that are emulator bugs).

PSP might be better then the xd, but even then the vast majority of PSP games I tried already runs full speed with 720 p rendering... this si not motivating me to buy one :-(
I will be running some tests using dolphin, n64 and ppsspp on my s7800 and making notes where they glitch or play up so u can compare. For example on my phone ghosts n goblins plays not too bad but the sound glitches terribly.


I had an archos gamepad 2 (same SOC and resolution as the s7800b) before I got the GPD Q9 and XD. So I have that to compare. DS, DC, and n64 emulation quite frankly I already can't see any real difference whatsoever between rk3188 and rk3288, and cpu perf. is ~50% faster. GPU performance (handy for upscaling) is 4 to 8 (!) times faster.

so there sure as heck won't be an advantage in a tegra k1.

But I do think PSP will be a lot better for some titles. but a used psp costs a whole let less then 330 bucks!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 26, 2016, 02:03:31 pm
I knew they wouldn't be massively different but there should be quite a difference on the newer stuff? Don't forget the xd has a smaller screen if I'm thinking about the clamshell device I looked at recently.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 26, 2016, 02:04:32 pm
Sorry but the S192 does indeed run emulators better than the Gpd Xd! I own a Red 64gb Gpd Xd.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 26, 2016, 02:22:03 pm
Yes. Look at how the Shield Tablet runs emulators (fantastic performance).
That will give you a hint of how the S192 performs!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on May 26, 2016, 02:27:04 pm
Wow...im a simple and casual user...i really use it for retro games but as I said before, joining this this site, has given me alot of info especially this post specifically.... funny that you guys mentioned gforece now....I recently purchased the nvidia shield pro and installed it this week. I've been playing around with it here and there but nothing special. I purchased it mostly to use it as my media center with Kodi. everything else was a bonus with the gaming control and a vast amount of features that I have yet to explore in which I will do so in the next few days now that im off from work for this long weekend.

Not to sound too dated but what is geforce now? is it like a netflix for games??? im sorry for the question but I rather ask than to not and never know what im missing.

Oh and by the way...my device is still not shipped... im sending out an email to sales today now that people are starting to get their s192.  I also asked my friend who also ordered but from geekbuying and his status is still showing as "processed" no surprise there considering its not coming from JXD directly.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Vinc3Has3 on May 26, 2016, 02:37:51 pm
Sorry but the S192 does indeed run emulators better than the Gpd Xd! I own a Red 64gb Gpd Xd.
Could you be a bit more specific? The only things my Nvidia Shield TV runs better than my XD is PPSSPP and Mupen 64 - For pretty much everything else, the Nvidia chips are, so to speak, over-qualified, and the performance on less complex emulators is the same, in my opinion.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on May 26, 2016, 02:42:37 pm
Sorry but the S192 does indeed run emulators better than the Gpd Xd! I own a Red 64gb Gpd Xd.

Saturn mainly and some psp titles, but just that. I also own a gpd and a shield tablet. By the way, what,s the refresh rate in hz in this jxd? That is essential for accurate emulatiom. It should be 59.94 or 60 hz i suppose
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 26, 2016, 02:51:07 pm
Make sure if testing ppsspp you disable frameskip.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 26, 2016, 02:59:00 pm
Yes. Geforce NOW is a Netflix for games. :)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: hexdump on May 26, 2016, 03:43:03 pm
Sorry but the S192 does indeed run emulators better than the Gpd Xd! I own a Red 64gb Gpd Xd.

Saturn mainly and some psp titles, but just that. I also own a gpd and a shield tablet. By the way, what,s the refresh rate in hz in this jxd? That is essential for accurate emulatiom. It should be 59.94 or 60 hz i suppose

I'm interested in the refresh rate too, could anyone post it?

Cómo va skelton? Te vas a hacer con una de estas tmb? Creí entender en gp32spain que no.

Uns aludo.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on May 26, 2016, 03:57:33 pm
As I was reading the these post, I noticed you guys mentioned that gforce now wont work s192 even though the hardware is the same as the nvidia tablet. Now someone had mentioned that it was because the JXD is not an official release from nvidia so the firmware might be different... again, im not super technical on these things but it does make sense. If I were a developer, I would make sure that anything I make, would be unique to my devices I sell. Its what makes you different from all. I also remember someone posted a link on another message board that this unit is an nvidia product but neither nvidia or any other CREDIBLE sources have come forward to confirm this to date!.Thats the same thought process goes between apple and Microsoft. People tend to forget that Apple and Microsoft are the similar when it comes to computers and its core cpu memory and i believe the mobo, they have the same internal hardware from intel (for the most part)...nothing is really unique to apple except for the OS. I know this may piss off some people but oh well..its not secret and for the record, I dont have anything against either and I do work with both.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on May 26, 2016, 04:05:08 pm
Update:

I sent an email to JXD about my device and I recieved an email within 10 minutes with the status of my device is now being shipped!

I did do the DHL shipping so I will check later as to where its at...im expecting it by next week but at least im getting mine soon..

Funny thing also...my friend got his shipping information from geekbuying so he should be getting his soon... so the race is on We are both in New York USA...I can at least tell how long it takes from each vendor... we both did the same shipping through DHL...
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on May 26, 2016, 04:23:37 pm
Sorry but the S192 does indeed run emulators better than the Gpd Xd! I own a Red 64gb Gpd Xd.

Saturn mainly and some psp titles, but just that. I also own a gpd and a shield tablet. By the way, what,s the refresh rate in hz in this jxd? That is essential for accurate emulatiom. It should be 59.94 or 60 hz i suppose

I'm interested in the refresh rate too, could anyone post it?

Cómo va skelton? Te vas a hacer con una de estas tmb? Creí entender en gp32spain que no.

Uns aludo.

Nope, I don't think so. I already have a shield tablet and 2 GPDs
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: xmcnuggetx on May 26, 2016, 04:48:36 pm
I'm steady F5ing this thread waiting for some videos :)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 26, 2016, 05:14:58 pm
I'm steady F5ing this thread waiting for some videos :)

Elronza is working on it!
He needs some time to try stuff out though.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 26, 2016, 05:15:59 pm
PSP,Nds, and N64 run noticeably better on the Jxd S192 vs the Gpd Xd. Although my friends Shield Tablet is a little bit better and faster than the Jxd S192.
Unfortunately I have a problem where my S192 will not charge. So I will have to have it shipped back to either be fixed or exchanged. I've been trying to charge it for the last three hours and it still shows only 35%! >:( And while others may not like Geforce Now I personally love it! It reminds me of when I was a kid and we had the Sega Channel good times.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 26, 2016, 05:17:53 pm
Hmm think I'm going to cancel my order.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 26, 2016, 05:20:22 pm
I forgot to mention Recast or whatever it's called the Sega Dreamcast emulator also works better than on  the Gpd Xd.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on May 26, 2016, 05:44:55 pm
I forgot to mention Recast or whatever it's called the Sega Dreamcast emulator also works better than on  the Gpd Xd.

Reicast runs pefect in gpd xd, same as ds. In my shield tablet yhwu run the same as my gpd xd. The only emu that makes a huge diffeernce ia uoyabause.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 26, 2016, 05:46:32 pm
PSP,Nds, and N64 run noticeably better on the Jxd S192 vs the Gpd Xd. Although my friends Shield Tablet is a little bit better and faster than the Jxd S192.
Unfortunately I have a problem where my S192 will not charge. So I will have to have it shipped back to either be fixed or exchanged. I've been trying to charge it for the last three hours and it still shows only 35%! >:( And while others may not like Geforce Now I personally love it! It reminds me of when I was a kid and we had the Sega Channel good times.

Answer from JXD´s Q&A:

The first time Charging for the S192,  use the original charger to charge, need nearly 6-8 hours to finish, it is better for the console to last 2 more hours in the first three times charging
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 26, 2016, 06:07:43 pm
I did that SiliconeMessiah and still nothing. I just did a factory reformatting and it keeps popping up the dead Android icon. I'm not happy at all at this.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 26, 2016, 06:10:47 pm
I did that SiliconeMessiah and still nothing. I just did a factory reformatting and it keeps popping up the dead Android icon. I'm not happy at all at this.

Wow...that´s a bummer. =(

Dead Android icon? That is a real bad thing. You can't start it?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 26, 2016, 06:17:52 pm
Nope I can't start it to home screen.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: kristianity77 on May 26, 2016, 06:19:43 pm
Wow, it seems that JXD learn nothing in the case of reliability of their devices.  Glad I found out about the dead battery before I found out what the refresh rates were or I might have foolishly bit the bullet on a cheap chinese device for a 3rd time!   These devices are just never ever worth it.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 26, 2016, 06:21:51 pm
Nope I can't start it to home screen.

This seems very weird.
How did it get to this? Just suddenly, without any notice?

Hope it isn´t widespread. And that the release was too rushed. And that the ROM has flaws.

You should get in touch for a re-fund.
Damn...so sad for you, with all the time and excitement leading up to the final release.

(You are probably the first person in the world with a dead JXD s192) =(

((but probably not the last))
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 26, 2016, 06:36:20 pm
LOL

Just saw this picture from JXD. Gamestream was surely planned for this device...but didn´t make it.

Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 26, 2016, 06:40:47 pm
I finally got it to load home screen and everything appears okay. I've powered it off and am going to leave it on charge for atleast 7 hours to see if my batteries power level will raise preferably fully charge.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on May 26, 2016, 06:43:05 pm
I finally got it to load home screen and everything appears okay. I've powered it off and am going to leave it on charge for atleast 7 hours to see if my batteries power level will raise preferably fully charge.

If there was an app running heavily in the background, it may have have allowed it to charge.  I'd power it off and let it fully charge.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 26, 2016, 06:48:14 pm
Yep, that is my advice too. Power off and charge for 6-8 hours.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 26, 2016, 06:49:57 pm
Nope I can't start it to home screen.

This seems very weird.
How did it get to this? Just suddenly, without any notice?

Hope it isn´t widespread. And that the release was too rushed. And that the ROM has flaws.

You should get in touch for a re-fund.
Damn...so sad for you, with all the time and excitement leading up to the final release.

(You are probably the first person in the world with a dead JXD s192) =(

((but probably not the last))
Too rushed? It was delayed 6 months... plenty of time get the ROM right ?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on May 26, 2016, 07:04:13 pm
Nope I can't start it to home screen.

This seems very weird.
How did it get to this? Just suddenly, without any notice?

Hope it isn´t widespread. And that the release was too rushed. And that the ROM has flaws.

You should get in touch for a re-fund.
Damn...so sad for you, with all the time and excitement leading up to the final release.

(You are probably the first person in the world with a dead JXD s192) =(

((but probably not the last))
Too rushed? It was delayed 6 months... plenty of time get the ROM right ?

Yep, but probably don't have some one good making roms. Their old Soft company ran away from jxd and founded gpd.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on May 26, 2016, 07:09:03 pm
PSP,Nds, and N64 run noticeably better on the Jxd S192 vs the Gpd Xd. Although my friends Shield Tablet is a little bit better and faster than the Jxd S192.
Unfortunately I have a problem where my S192 will not charge. So I will have to have it shipped back to either be fixed or exchanged. I've been trying to charge it for the last three hours and it still shows only 35%! >:( And while others may not like Geforce Now I personally love it! It reminds me of when I was a kid and we had the Sega Channel good times.

Answer from JXD´s Q&A:

The first time Charging for the S192,  use the original charger to charge, need nearly 6-8 hours to finish, it is better for the console to last 2 more hours in the first three times charging

Is this something that can be corrected by firmware updates in the near future or is this a hardware adjustment that needs to be done at first...if thats the case with charging, I'm thinking they should've mentioned that small little detail...I guess we will start seeing the good and the bad with these units as you guys continue test... I really appreciate you guys posting the information...

Im also wondering what happened to the rest of the people on this post...I too am curious as to happen to the rest...not that I have anything agist the rest of the guys here...In Which I have to say you are all great!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on May 26, 2016, 07:09:54 pm
LOL

Just saw this picture from JXD. Gamestream was surely planned for this device...but didn´t make it.

They used to promote it with Shield Hub being on the home screen.  Biggest reason I decided to order it.  I am sure we will get it rooted, and then we can hack the apps from the shield though. :-)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 26, 2016, 07:12:30 pm
LOL

Just saw this picture from JXD. Gamestream was surely planned for this device...but didn´t make it.

They used to promote it with Shield Hub being on the home screen.  Biggest reason I decided to order it.  I am sure we will get it rooted, and then we can hack the apps from the shield though. :-)

Yep. They did. It was a big surprise that the Shield Hub/Gamestream was not included.
I am absolutely baffled.

But think as you. There will be Gamestream in the future.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on May 26, 2016, 07:15:46 pm
LOL

Just saw this picture from JXD. Gamestream was surely planned for this device...but didn´t make it.

They used to promote it with Shield Hub being on the home screen.  Biggest reason I decided to order it.  I am sure we will get it rooted, and then we can hack the apps from the shield though. :-)
.
Maybe rooting and spoofing the device as a shield tablet makes the trick. Just an idea....
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: mixwell on May 26, 2016, 07:16:47 pm
The massive icons are really doing my head in.

I also want to play doom 3.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 26, 2016, 07:18:54 pm
LOL

Just saw this picture from JXD. Gamestream was surely planned for this device...but didn´t make it.

They used to promote it with Shield Hub being on the home screen.  Biggest reason I decided to order it.  I am sure we will get it rooted, and then we can hack the apps from the shield though. :-)
.
Maybe rooting and spoofing the device as a shield tablet makes the trick. Just an idea....

Yeah, we talked about that. But also talked about the risk of losing the gamepad-function.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: xmcnuggetx on May 26, 2016, 07:19:51 pm
They also stated on their facebook it would be android 5.0.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on May 26, 2016, 07:29:52 pm
LOL

Just saw this picture from JXD. Gamestream was surely planned for this device...but didn´t make it.

They used to promote it with Shield Hub being on the home screen.  Biggest reason I decided to order it.  I am sure we will get it rooted, and then we can hack the apps from the shield though. :-)
.
Maybe rooting and spoofing the device as a shield tablet makes the trick. Just an idea....

Yeah, we talked about that. But also talked about the risk of losing the gamepad-function.

Spoofing a device only means chahing build.prop, not the kernel or.firmware. obviuosly flashing a shield rom most probably bricks the device, because kernel.is different in every device.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on May 26, 2016, 07:33:45 pm
Maybe rooting and spoofing the device as a shield tablet makes the trick. Just an idea....

Possibly.  If not, can always pull the libs and packages from the Shield.  Hopefully they will work with Android 6.  If not, we will need to get JXD to update the S192.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 26, 2016, 08:51:10 pm
I just wish that JXD could strike a deal with Nvidia to include Shield Hub with the device.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 26, 2016, 08:58:46 pm
Good news my Jxd Singularity S192 being reformatted worked. My device is now at 48% although I am going to leave it to charge another 6-8 hours. If all goes well I'll be posting my review and comparison of my Gpd Xd vs my Shield Portable vs my Jxd Singularity S192 either tonight or in the morning. All of this will be done with the help of my lovely and talented assistant I mean ass-in-a-instant my wife Nada lol.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 26, 2016, 09:03:30 pm
Haha, great Elronza. Hope it all works out good for you!
Looking forward to your report!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 26, 2016, 09:09:50 pm
There's something wrong with this site as I'm not able to post pictures I just took of my Jxd S192 and Gpd xd and Shield Portable. I keep getting an error message.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 26, 2016, 09:12:33 pm
Here's the facebook group I'm in that I've posted the pictures that I was trying to post here.      https://www.facebook.com/groups/884261838253671/
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 26, 2016, 09:15:31 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUnk3a_NWug
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 26, 2016, 09:36:14 pm
Here's my Jxd S192 next to my Shield Portable next to my Gpd Xd.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 26, 2016, 09:37:27 pm
Another pic of the trio of gaming lol.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 26, 2016, 09:39:51 pm
Damn looks huge eh? I just joined that group :-)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 26, 2016, 09:42:32 pm
Hey don't dis the S192 big girls I mean handhelds need love too lol. And thanks for joining feel free to post and comment till your hearts content brother!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 26, 2016, 09:43:11 pm
Have already started ;-) I loves the big SD.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: kristianity77 on May 26, 2016, 09:43:23 pm
Any chance on Snes9x of finding out the refresh rate of the device.  That really is the biggest factor really in knowing whether the device will cut it or not?

There are two options in the video menu.

Click the Frame rate section

Then click "Detect screens rate and set"  What figure does that come back with?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 26, 2016, 09:47:34 pm
kristianity77 while I myself haven't run a Snes emulator on my jxd S192 yet, I'm more than certain it can handle Snes emulation without a sweat.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: kristianity77 on May 26, 2016, 09:49:01 pm
kristianity77 while I myself haven't run a Snes emulator on my jxd S192 yet, I'm more than certain it can handle Snes emulation without a sweat.

I know it will run the snes emu perfectly fine.  But its the refresh rate of the screen people are trying to find out.  Its the biggest hurdle with these devices to find out whether emulation will stutter or not or play at the correct speed.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 26, 2016, 09:54:59 pm
Well if someone tells me how to test the refresh rate I have no problem testing and posting the results tonight.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: kristianity77 on May 26, 2016, 09:57:41 pm
Well if someone tells me how to test the refresh rate I have no problem testing and posting the results tonight.

no problem.  It literally takes 2 minutes

Using the play store, install SNES9xEX (Is free)

Once installed and you open it, youll get a menu, click OPTIONS, then VIDEO.

Then you'll see Frame Rate XX.XXHz (the XX.XX could be anything, but most likely around the 60 mark)

Click this, then click DETECT SCREENS RATE AND SET.

It will come back with a figure in Hz.  Thats the magic number.

In a perfect world if the device is set up correctly it will read 60.00hz
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on May 26, 2016, 10:06:54 pm
Well if someone tells me how to test the refresh rate I have no problem testing and posting the results tonight.

no problem.  It literally takes 2 minutes

Using the play store, install SNES9xEX (Is free)

Once installed and you open it, youll get a menu, click OPTIONS, then VIDEO.

Then you'll see Frame Rate XX.XXHz (the XX.XX could be anything, but most likely around the 60 mark)

Click this, then click DETECT SCREENS RATE AND SET.

It will come back with a figure in Hz.  Thats the magic number.

In a perfect world if the device is set up correctly it will read 60.00hz

In fact most ntsc consoles output video is 59.94 hz that would be even better, but yeah, 60 hz or close is nice in most devices. Retroarch handle it even better,
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 26, 2016, 10:07:04 pm
kristianity77 I promise to post the resulting refresh rate for you.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 26, 2016, 10:11:14 pm
Hmm that's odd. I just looked on my snes9x ex+ and there isn't a frame rate option (using a phone)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 26, 2016, 10:23:06 pm
Update someone on Nvidia's Geforce Forum's is trying to get in contact with someone they know that works for Nvidia to see if us Jxd S192 owners can either get official gamestreaming or a work-around.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 26, 2016, 10:25:21 pm
There is a workaround for game streaming. I think it's the hub thing people are wanting.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: mixwell on May 26, 2016, 10:34:02 pm
Well if someone tells me how to test the refresh rate I have no problem testing and posting the results tonight.

no problem.  It literally takes 2 minutes

Using the play store, install SNES9xEX (Is free)

Once installed and you open it, youll get a menu, click OPTIONS, then VIDEO.

Then you'll see Frame Rate XX.XXHz (the XX.XX could be anything, but most likely around the 60 mark)

Click this, then click DETECT SCREENS RATE AND SET.

It will come back with a figure in Hz.  Thats the magic number.

In a perfect world if the device is set up correctly it will read 60.00hz

In fact most ntsc consoles output video is 59.94 hz that would be even better, but yeah, 60 hz or close is nice in most devices. Retroarch handle it even better,

Uh oh screen refresh is 57.84

Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: hexdump on May 26, 2016, 10:36:02 pm
Well if someone tells me how to test the refresh rate I have no problem testing and posting the results tonight.

no problem.  It literally takes 2 minutes

Using the play store, install SNES9xEX (Is free)

Once installed and you open it, youll get a menu, click OPTIONS, then VIDEO.

Then you'll see Frame Rate XX.XXHz (the XX.XX could be anything, but most likely around the 60 mark)

Click this, then click DETECT SCREENS RATE AND SET.

It will come back with a figure in Hz.  Thats the magic number.

In a perfect world if the device is set up correctly it will read 60.00hz

In fact most ntsc consoles output video is 59.94 hz that would be even better, but yeah, 60 hz or close is nice in most devices. Retroarch handle it even better,

Uh oh screen refresh is 57.84

This seems no good news   :-[
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: kristianity77 on May 26, 2016, 10:38:49 pm
Well if someone tells me how to test the refresh rate I have no problem testing and posting the results tonight.

no problem.  It literally takes 2 minutes

Using the play store, install SNES9xEX (Is free)

Once installed and you open it, youll get a menu, click OPTIONS, then VIDEO.

Then you'll see Frame Rate XX.XXHz (the XX.XX could be anything, but most likely around the 60 mark)

Click this, then click DETECT SCREENS RATE AND SET.

It will come back with a figure in Hz.  Thats the magic number.

In a perfect world if the device is set up correctly it will read 60.00hz

In fact most ntsc consoles output video is 59.94 hz that would be even better, but yeah, 60 hz or close is nice in most devices. Retroarch handle it even better,

Uh oh screen refresh is 57.84

I had figured it might be low.  That video on the last page which shows emulation had been recorded at 60fps, and you could see stutter and hear that the sound was lower pitched and slower.  Thats a real deal killer for me. 
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 26, 2016, 10:54:42 pm
Why would it not be 60? Just updated and checked my phone and it says 60hz.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: kristianity77 on May 26, 2016, 10:59:30 pm
Why would it not be 60? Just updated and checked my phone and it says 60hz.

Devices from decent manufacturers usually get this part right.  Most phones by the likes of Samsung, HTC and your other big players nail this part down.  Lesser brands and cheap chinese devices see it as an afterthought usually.  Not realising the impact it has (or not caring / knowledgeable enough to have it correct in the first place)

Don't get me wrong, it doesn't massively affect things.  A lot of emulators allow you to sync the games to the screen refresh, no matter what the refresh rate is.  But what this does is either speed up or slow down how the games play.  At 57 Hz, your talking about all games running 5% slower than they should do.  This means gameplay is slower, sound is slower etc)  If the emulator in question doesn't have the ability to match the refresh rate (PPSSPP and EPSXE are two that come to mind)  you get stuttering which you cannot do anything about.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on May 26, 2016, 11:14:06 pm
57.84 is too low...... I suppose JXD can solve it with an update, they just need to check the datasheet of the lcd panel and set timings properly in the dtsi file of the kernel.

Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 26, 2016, 11:28:35 pm
Actually the Jxd's refresh rate is 59.39hz . All you do is click the frame rate its showing in Snes9x EX+ then click detect screens rate and set!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: kristianity77 on May 26, 2016, 11:31:15 pm
Actually the Jxd's refresh rate is 59.39hz . All you do is click the frame rate its showing in Snes9x EX+ then click detect screens rate and set!

If you keep clicking on this, does the refresh rate differ at all or is it always showing 59.39?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 26, 2016, 11:34:17 pm
Always 59.39hz.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 26, 2016, 11:36:33 pm
My bad it's showing 59.72 now.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 26, 2016, 11:40:48 pm
58. whatever is what Snes9x EX+ loaded showing. The Jxd S192's refresh rate is always 59+.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: kristianity77 on May 26, 2016, 11:45:11 pm
Hmmm, I've never seen a device go up and down like that.  On devices I've had the detect has always been exactly the same each time.  60.80 on GPD Q9 PSV, and it never changed.  On my phone (HTC One M8) it never changes.  Why would this happen?  Power issue?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 26, 2016, 11:47:23 pm
This site is acting up again and not allowing me to post pictures showing the refresh rate which I have now posted in the Facebook group link provided.      https://www.facebook.com/groups/884261838253671/requests/?notif_t=group_r2j&notif_id=1464294563465054
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on May 26, 2016, 11:54:17 pm
Any idea what the transfer rate is on the SD Card? I've got a couple 128GB cards ready for when mine arrives... if it ever arrives.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on May 26, 2016, 11:55:54 pm
Elronza... Thats for approving me just now on Facebook... Ill check out the group... for now, im living through you guys looking at these issues.. I'm really not liking the whole power issue for charging. If this a mass issue, I rather wait a little longer then to have it shipped back at my own expense.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 27, 2016, 12:10:24 am
My Sandisk 200gb micro sdxc speed is 90 megabytes a second is what's advertised and listed for the read speed. All I know is it is fast.        http://www.bestbuy.com/site/sandisk-ultra-200gb-microsdxc-class-10-uhs-i-memory-card-black/6330207.p?id=1219661891262&skuId=6330207&cmp=RMX&ref=17&loc=11&CampaignID=789277&SubscriberID=415042240
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on May 27, 2016, 12:14:33 am
My Sandisk 200gb micro sdxc speed is 90 megabytes a second is what's advertised and listed for the read speed. All I know is it is fast.        http://www.bestbuy.com/site/sandisk-ultra-200gb-microsdxc-class-10-uhs-i-memory-card-black/6330207.p?id=1219661891262&skuId=6330207&cmp=RMX&ref=17&loc=11&CampaignID=789277&SubscriberID=415042240

I'm eyeing it.  I maxed out my Bestbuy card with a new Macbook Pro though. :-(
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 27, 2016, 02:38:49 am
My Jxd S192 has a defective battery. I've been charging the system since 2:02pm Eastern time and it is now 9:38pm Eastern time and it will not charge beyond 85%.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on May 27, 2016, 04:50:44 am
My Jxd S192 has a defective battery. I've been charging the system since 2:02pm Eastern time and it is now 9:38pm Eastern time and it will not charge beyond 85%.

Anyone else having this issue?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 27, 2016, 05:13:34 am
It's either a defective battery or something very weird to is going on with my systems software. Because I have been playing PSP games for over 30minutes with my Jxd S192 off of charge with the screen brightness at half way mark and my battery is showing 83% lol.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Melquiades on May 27, 2016, 05:16:57 am
it may be that the battery needs to be recalibrated. it happened once to my q9 at 30%. try an app called "battery calibration". it works without root i think :)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 27, 2016, 05:27:41 am
My Jxd S192 has a defective battery. I've been charging the system since 2:02pm Eastern time and it is now 9:38pm Eastern time and it will not charge beyond 85%.

The battery always comes half charged. And you should DIRECTLY put it in to charge for 6-8 hours.
Do not use the machine on that factory charge.

Did you use your device on that first charge your battery might take hurt and/or need recalibratiob.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: mixwell on May 27, 2016, 08:42:44 am
*if* I buy doom 3 on my shield tab then side load it on my 192 will it pass the license check etc?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 27, 2016, 09:09:39 am
Not sure what side loading means but I have 1 Google account for app store and when I buy apps on my phone they appear on my s7800 automatically and vise versa.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: eragon2890 on May 27, 2016, 09:13:08 am
It's either a defective battery or something very weird to is going on with my systems software. Because I have been playing PSP games for over 30minutes with my Jxd S192 off of charge with the screen brightness at half way mark and my battery is showing 83% lol.

then it's probably not broken. Like others said, you have to recalibrate it, it's probably full but the system thinks it's at 85% . So it doesn't show it as going higher. Use a battery calibration app from the play store. It will tell you how to calibrate it. There are lots of free ones.

From what you said earlier, you tested it / played on it as soon as you got it out of the box right? That was a big bad mistake~ :) It's often causes miscalibrations. Not always - I was over-eager to use  my GPD XD too the moment I got it and had no such problems - but often.

But 99% sure nothing is broken.

Overall I must say it certainly sounds that hardware-wise these devices are a gazillion times better quality then the POS s7800b (no-one's power button fell of yet?) and the software seems better too - but not perfect. Oh well, nothing a custom rom can't fix, hopefully.

I might pick one up at the end of the year if they turn out to be that great.

Finally, can or can't this thing run the talos principle, portal, half life 2, etc and all the other tegra-exclusive games? I don't know if this has anything to do with the shield app, and I really want to know to help me decide if it's worth getting one for myself.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: AceGrace on May 27, 2016, 09:35:11 am
No! Have I buggery. Funstock said will be min another week. Grrrr. Least all the initial bugs might be highlighted by then.

Elronza - is the rear camera on yours? I've seen a few unboxing vids now and they have the camera hole in the case. Is there a camera there.

I don't order from Funstock unless it is in stock. I ordered a GPD XD from them in March. Finally gave up after being told that the stock was in the UK at Easter then told beginning of May. I ended up getting a refund.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 27, 2016, 10:50:38 am
Yes Eragon. It runs those games like Talos Principle and HL2.
It is made with this in mind. I actually got them for free as a gift from JXD.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 27, 2016, 11:19:18 am
Alright I've just used one recalibration app and now have the Jxd S192 charging. If it doesn't work I already have 3 more recalibration apps installed.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 27, 2016, 11:27:04 am
I can honestly say that other than my battery and not having the Shield Hub with Geforce Now and Nvidia Official Gamestream support the Jxd Singularity S192 has been perfect. Funny thing I realized if you go into the settings on this device it's listed as a Shield device anyone with a S192 go to your apps in settings and click on one as if to move it to Sd and you'll see on the lower mid left side of the screen it is listed as a Shield lol I'll post a picture of it shortly. If I'm unable to post it here as has been occurring lately I will post it in the Facebook group I posted the link to earlier.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: eragon2890 on May 27, 2016, 12:06:18 pm
My Jxd S192 has a defective battery. I've been charging the system since 2:02pm Eastern time and it is now 9:38pm Eastern time and it will not charge beyond 85%.

The battery always comes half charged. And you should DIRECTLY put it in to charge for 6-8 hours.
Do not use the machine on that factory charge.

Did you use your device on that first charge your battery might take hurt and/or need recalibratiob.

awesome ;3

One thing I haven't seen anybody ask yet (correct me if I am wrong): how is the included charger?

The one for the s7800 was generally considered a "death trap" which even it worked could kill you and/or burn your house down, and the piece of crap GPD included with my XD was not much better (only ever made a big spark when put in the wall socket, then I trashed it).

so how is it?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 27, 2016, 12:15:41 pm
This charger is okay.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 27, 2016, 12:50:38 pm
I bought the Nvidia World Charger today. Seems to go well with all my devices.
I have the JXD s192, Archos Gamepad 2, JXD s7800b and the Shield Portable.

Convenient with one solution for all.

So interesting with the JXD s192 being listed as a 'Shield Device'.
I really hope we will see the Shield Hub+Gamestream in a coming update.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Pleng on May 27, 2016, 01:02:00 pm
Reicast runs pefect in gpd xd

Can you define perfect? Daytona USA, graphical glitches aside, most certainly doesn't run perfectly for me on my Q9 when running with 40 cars on more demanding tracks.

Is the XD better in this regard?

Also, does the S192 suffer the same graphical glitches as the rockchip based devices?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: eragon2890 on May 27, 2016, 01:07:39 pm
Reicast runs pefect in gpd xd

Can you define perfect? Daytona USA, graphical glitches aside, most certainly doesn't run perfectly for me on my Q9 when running with 40 cars on more demanding tracks.

Is the XD better in this regard?

Also, does the S192 suffer the same graphical glitches as the rockchip based devices?

Yep, same glitches, those are emulation problems, not rockchip problems~

In fact, the GPU in the rk socs is more like the original dreamcast one then the ones in the tegras, because it used Tile Based Rendering - something which was about last used in the dreamcast and then resurrected years later for mobile GPU's, namely, mali's!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 27, 2016, 01:12:40 pm
Why do you all think his battery needs calibrating, I have several android devices and not one has ever needed this doing on it? Is because it's using cheap parts or something?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 27, 2016, 01:20:51 pm
Why do you all think his battery needs calibrating, I have several android devices and not one has ever needed this doing on it? Is because it's using cheap parts or something?

Calibrating the battery and taking care of it is a thing with lithium-ion batteries. That is to ensure longevity and the best output over a prolonged time.

As I said, for example, all li-ion batteries should be taken care of from the very beginning. This has nothing to do with quality. The battery with the JXD s192 is a monster. If it's well taken care of, you have good times ahead.

For example: Never use up the default battery load that comes with a new device. Load it fully 6-8 hours first.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Melquiades on May 27, 2016, 01:48:05 pm
I will consider buying one, if the price ever goes down. I am super happy with my S7800B and S5800. Overall, I have had a much better experience with them than with any GPD. Firmware wise, the S7800B was a bit finicky, but once properly configured has been a total monster.

So if the S192 maintains the build quality and has a decent firmware like the S5800 it may be an excellent option. Unfortunately, the price is WAY out of my league. Anyway, can somebody confirm what version of Android is this thing running? I have read both JB and KK in different places. Also, are Lollipop or Marshamallow updates scheduled? For this asking price, they should offer OTAs, but being JXD, I am very skeptical...

Also, other question, is the battery replaceable?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 27, 2016, 01:49:09 pm
It's 4.4
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 27, 2016, 01:49:29 pm
Have they hit UK yet anyone?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on May 27, 2016, 01:54:58 pm
Reicast runs pefect in gpd xd

Can you define perfect? Daytona USA, graphical glitches aside, most certainly doesn't run perfectly for me on my Q9 when running with 40 cars on more demanding tracks.

Is the XD better in this regard?

Also, does the S192 suffer the same graphical glitches as the rockchip based devices?

Daytona have performabce drops in all systems, including shield tablet. Perhaps in shield TV works better, but it's more a problem on how reicast render graphics (asychronously). Using synchronous render in option work better. Glitches are similar in all GPUs I tried (I tried in several malis, adreno, tegra k1 and Powervr Rogue) To be honest, between shield tablet and RK3288 in emus the biggest difference is uoayabuse (somes games are also slow in k1 in uoyabause) and a couple of PSP titles. Even some PSP titles are not full speed in shield tablet (Dante's inferno, Silent Hill origins, GoW). In android games the GPU is very good in k1, but for emulaton no big differences bewteen k1 and RK3288, except for uoyabause. I use my RK3288 at 1,8 ghz though with performance mode in some emus.

I am not trying to defend RK, In fact I hate how Rockchip works in several ways (close mali source for instance, or messed kernels that don't follow some standards), but I bought a shield tablet thinking there was a  big difference and got a little dissapointed because performance in emus is very very similar, I expected a bit more. So in the end I use my XD more than my tablet for gaming.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: mixwell on May 27, 2016, 02:00:15 pm
Have they hit UK yet anyone?

I had mine yesterday after it was stuck in Liverpool.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 27, 2016, 02:01:23 pm
Damn that's pants. What are funstock messing about at.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: hexdump on May 27, 2016, 04:29:36 pm
Hi guys,

I'm a bit messed up after reading previous messages. What's the screen update rate then?

Cheers.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: halljames on May 27, 2016, 04:54:43 pm
Damn that's pants. What are funstock messing about at.

Just had a response from them and they are saying July :(
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 27, 2016, 04:56:04 pm
That's silly! It will be quicker for us to cancel and order direct at this rate.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on May 27, 2016, 05:22:24 pm
Well, mine shipped from JXD.  While I paid for DHL shipping, it looks like they just tossed it in the Post.  Arg!

Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 27, 2016, 06:00:16 pm
I just found something very interesting. As I was playing Unearthed Trail of Ibn Battuta Episode 1, there's a pop-up screen before my first hand to hand fight and the Jxd S192 is recongnized and displayed as an Nvidia Shield Controller. That solidifies this device was to have been more than what it is.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 27, 2016, 06:03:10 pm
Yeah probably because jxd thought they could get away without paying licencing fees etc and I bet they didn't get the permissions and license when it was brought to the attention of Nvidia?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 27, 2016, 06:16:57 pm
Here's someone else's unboxing video.      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKSxPlYSzts
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 27, 2016, 06:46:54 pm
Well, mine shipped from JXD.  While I paid for DHL shipping, it looks like they just tossed it in the Post.  Arg!

Nooooo...


For once, the opposite happened to me.
1. I paid $ 269 for the device.
2. I got DHL even if I didn´t pay for it.

I am a very satisfied customer, and will be using JXD in the future.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on May 27, 2016, 06:58:38 pm
Here's someone else's unboxing video.      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKSxPlYSzts

had to change my post...I noticed that the packaging on most came without bubble wrap on the device...wonder if thats the case with all?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 27, 2016, 07:09:55 pm
I got pink bubble wrap on mine when I unboxed it.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 27, 2016, 07:16:39 pm
I got pink bubble wrap on mine when I unboxed it.

So did I. I Think everyone did that.
The pink plastic is removed in "fake" non first-time unboxings.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on May 27, 2016, 07:42:09 pm
I just found something very interesting. As I was playing Unearthed Trail of Ibn Battuta Episode 1, there's a pop-up screen before my first hand to hand fight and the Jxd S192 is recongnized and displayed as an Nvidia Shield Controller. That solidifies this device was to have been more than what it is.

This happens with some games optimized for tegra, for instance, Exiles Zero always shows a shield controller picture though you use another controller. Or perhaps JXD just named their joystick driver as "Nvidia Controller".

You can check that with an app like joystick tests
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 27, 2016, 08:13:23 pm
If the S192 is recognized as a "Shield device", and the controller as a "Shield controller"...I just cannot wrap my head around why we cannot get access to the Shield Hub/Geforce NOW/Gamestream.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 27, 2016, 08:14:43 pm
What happens when you install it?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 27, 2016, 08:16:20 pm
Download and install aLogcat. You can check the install logs.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on May 27, 2016, 09:08:54 pm
If the S192 is recognized as a "Shield device", and the controller as a "Shield controller"...I just cannot wrap my head around why we cannot get access to the Shield Hub/Geforce NOW/Gamestream.

Could it be that it needs an updated version of android? Or perhaps the App reads device name so if it reads jxd s192 in the build.prop instead of shield something doesn't pass the checking.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 27, 2016, 09:13:49 pm
No it runs on anything 4.0 or higher according to gplay store.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on May 27, 2016, 09:47:18 pm
Then probably it will need a modification of build.prop
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 27, 2016, 09:52:52 pm
Using the app Joystick Tests the controller is recognized as a combination of Jxd and Nvidia including Nvidia's right analog as virtual mouse.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 27, 2016, 09:53:54 pm
Then probably it will need a modification of build.prop
Which needs root?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: eragon2890 on May 27, 2016, 10:09:14 pm
Well, mine shipped from JXD.  While I paid for DHL shipping, it looks like they just tossed it in the Post.  Arg!

Nooooo...


For once, the opposite happened to me.
1. I paid $ 269 for the device.
2. I got DHL even if I didn´t pay for it.

I am a very satisfied customer, and will be using JXD in the future.

I would rage if they did to me, since it would cost me about 70 euros extra in import fees!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on May 27, 2016, 10:25:25 pm
Then probably it will need a modification of build.prop
Which needs root?

Yep. Root is needed to modify build.prop
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: ClawShrimp on May 27, 2016, 11:30:14 pm
Mine is on its way.
I think the main reason I bought it was for solid Dreamcast and Saturn performance. Hopefully one day there will be a Sega Model 2 emulator.
Looking forward to seeing more than just unboxing videos.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Qubits on May 27, 2016, 11:41:12 pm
Is the console heavy ? can you play it in bed (laid on your back) or just hold it in your hands for a long time or does it start to hurt after 30 mins or more ?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 28, 2016, 12:29:33 am
No the Jxd S192 isn't heavy. And sorry everyone things aren't looking good for posting my video today as I had to completely drain the battery of my Jxd S192 after using the re-calibration app and being told to try doing so by Jxd themselves. If this doesn't work and my battery still shows only 85% when fully charged, I'll have no choice but to send mine back for a replacement or to be fixed.   Here's a new Jxd S192 video in English.    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrBoTVrR9x0
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on May 28, 2016, 01:04:56 am
Nooooo...


For once, the opposite happened to me.
1. I paid $ 269 for the device.
2. I got DHL even if I didn´t pay for it.

I am a very satisfied customer, and will be using JXD in the future.

*phew*  Tracking from DHL now!!!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 28, 2016, 05:22:33 am
Nooooo...


For once, the opposite happened to me.
1. I paid $ 269 for the device.
2. I got DHL even if I didn´t pay for it.

I am a very satisfied customer, and will be using JXD in the future.

*phew*  Tracking from DHL now!!!

Great. It's just days away.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Pleng on May 28, 2016, 08:14:18 am
Using synchronous render in option work better.

Thanks for the tip; I shall try it out. Anything that improves my Daytona experience is a good thing :)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on May 28, 2016, 08:16:11 am
Great. It's just days away.

I hope so.  Memorial Day in the US may delay it.  I think DHL is working on Monday, so maybe not.  I've shut down the shop on Sunday, so I wish I had it already.  Figures it will come when everything is a day behind.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: eragon2890 on May 28, 2016, 09:54:54 am
No the Jxd S192 isn't heavy. And sorry everyone things aren't looking good for posting my video today as I had to completely drain the battery of my Jxd S192 after using the re-calibration app and being told to try doing so by Jxd themselves. If this doesn't work and my battery still shows only 85% when fully charged, I'll have no choice but to send mine back for a replacement or to be fixed.   Here's a new Jxd S192 video in English.    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrBoTVrR9x0

One on hand, that makes me want to buy one, on the other, I wonder how they keep such a behemoth so light. It's comfortable sure, but it's not really a sign of sturdy-ness. Like: the battery alone in my XD weighs 300 grams AFAIK. this one is 66% bigger, so that alone should weigh half a kilogram. (if it's a nice thick solid battery).  On the other hand, they all seem to work so ... I might pick one up later if the price comes down. I hope they have a christmas sale!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 28, 2016, 12:05:26 pm
Do you understand how a snowshoe works Eragon2890? Cause that's what's happening with the Jxd Singularity S192's weight. Even though it weighs 1 gram more than the Nvidia Shield Portable,because it's weight is spread out in the wide thin tablet instead of tightly packed into the short plump Shield Portable; the Jxd S192 feels very much lighter in weight. But trust me it is a sturdy well built device.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: mixwell on May 28, 2016, 12:38:51 pm
Doom 3 does not work properly for anyone wondering :(
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: eragon2890 on May 28, 2016, 01:08:24 pm
Do you understand how a snowshoe works Eragon2890? Cause that's what's happening with the Jxd Singularity S192's weight. Even though it weighs 1 gram more than the Nvidia Shield Portable,because it's weight is spread out in the wide thin tablet instead of tightly packed into the short plump Shield Portable; the Jxd S192 feels very much lighter in weight. But trust me it is a sturdy well built device.

Oh but that is only good off course. But then it's not light, it's well-distributed weight. That is always great. But I would get my doubts if it doesn't have some good weight to it , as in fealing very light and flimsy like my old yarvik. Or what people said of the jxd s7300 where it felt so light like you could snap it in too with your hands.

This makes it sound like a very well-built device indeed. XD I am starting to want one! Let's hope for that christmas sale...
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 28, 2016, 01:50:24 pm
Doom 3 does not work properly for anyone wondering :(

It has FPS-drops even on the Shield Tablet, wich is more powerful than the s192.

Does it even start?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: mixwell on May 28, 2016, 01:58:20 pm
Doom 3 does not work properly for anyone wondering :(

It has FPS-drops even on the Shield Tablet, wich is more powerful than the s192.

Does it even start?

It starts but the sound is slow, if you know what I mean. Even on the title screen the sound isn't right.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: eragon2890 on May 28, 2016, 02:36:15 pm
the doom 3 port in the google play store which has been there for ages (same author as the quake 3, quake2, quake, return to castle wolfenstein, jedi outcast and jedi academy ports, that guy is AWESOME!) doesn't work indeed on any device, it's very unoptimized. But didn't nvidia make a new port for tegra devices? That should work right?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 28, 2016, 03:49:27 pm
the doom 3 port in the google play store which has been there for ages (same author as the quake 3, quake2, quake, return to castle wolfenstein, jedi outcast and jedi academy ports, that guy is AWESOME!) doesn't work indeed on any device, it's very unoptimized. But didn't nvidia make a new port for tegra devices? That should work right?

They made one especially made for the Nvidia Shield Tablet.
The JXD s192 isn´t an Nvidia Shield Tablet, hence the chances are it won´t be working.

It´s just like the Shield Hub and Geforce NOW. It´s all made for the Nvidia Shield Tablet.

What it is however, is one of the best emulation devices out there.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: eragon2890 on May 28, 2016, 04:56:15 pm
aha! I looked it up you're right, I thought that it was the same as half life 2 etc. which run on all tegra k1 devices (so also the JXD) but it's not. Bummer :-(
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: mixwell on May 28, 2016, 05:33:18 pm
The doom 3 I tried was the Nvidia version.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 28, 2016, 06:18:25 pm
The doom 3 I tried was the Nvidia version.

Yep. Wich works if you have an Nvidia Shield.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 28, 2016, 06:29:02 pm
Why doesn't it work? Does it not install or dies it not start or something? If it's install you can trick Google play once it's rooted.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 28, 2016, 07:17:33 pm
Why doesn't it work? Does it not install or dies it not start or something? If it's install you can trick Google play once it's rooted.

It starts, but sound is garbled and choppy...I think it needs a tablet with Nvidias stuff to muster up the power to run.
We know that JXD:s stuff isn´t as optimised, as it shows in benchmarks. The Shield Tablet is faster.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 28, 2016, 07:24:14 pm
And cheaper :-P
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 28, 2016, 07:27:11 pm
And cheaper :-P

Yep.
But I take the s192 over a tablet with attached controls any day.

The s192 is one of, if not the best portable emulation device out there. But I can agree with you that the price is steep.


It was alright when I got it for $269. But I wouldn´t buy it today for $339 knowing it lacks Shield Hub.

Will you get yours in the week maybe?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 28, 2016, 07:30:35 pm
I have the steel series Free gamepad so no biggie to add to the sheild tab.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 28, 2016, 07:32:09 pm
Yeah maybe next week. I'm literally 50/50 if to bother to be honest. I'm not liking the reviewers and stuff being posted on here. I honestly thought it would be a sheild tab with joypad on the sides and its turning out to be a bit Of a dissapointed for me.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 28, 2016, 07:37:39 pm
Yeah maybe next week. I'm literally 50/50 if to bother to be honest. I'm not liking the reviewers and stuff being posted on here. I honestly thought it would be a sheild tab with joypad on the sides and its turning out to be a bit Of a dissapointed for me.

Ah, it does what´s expected of it. It´s just Nvidias official things that´s not availiable.
Other than that, it´s an awesome product. If you are into Android emulation/Tech stuff, it´s a great buy.
Don´t go in expecting miracles from a third-party company that just came across some spare K1-chips from Nvidia.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 28, 2016, 07:42:10 pm
Back in September 15 I thought highly of this device but now not so much.

Is almost just that's just 3 months to the year it was announced. It's already a year old before it was released ;-)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 28, 2016, 07:44:24 pm
If I can get enough funds availiable, I might buy another one, just to keep factory sealed for the future.
It´s such a unique device.

But I most probably won´t be able to spare that kind of money.

BTW: Elronza. How is that video of yours coming along? Looking forward to see it.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 28, 2016, 07:53:00 pm
Really? You think it's that good? So you have any other gaming machines?

The single only reason I haven't cancelled is because funstock already took the cash when I pre ordered, and it will be a hassle to get a refund.

As I already have a s7800 which currently plays all the things I like I was looking forward to to the newer emulators but it seems it's not quite powerful enough.

Coupled with the lack of unified/ adoptable storage which is a pain (my phone has KitKat).

Lastly it will still run the same mame version as the s7800 were unlikely to get a 'special' version with newer romset like we got on pi3.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on May 28, 2016, 07:55:18 pm
Why doesn't it work? Does it not install or dies it not start or something? If it's install you can trick Google play once it's rooted.

It could be the difference between Android 4.4 and 6.01 on the Shield tablet.  There could be some optimizations that aren't able to run on the 4.4 OS.  As well, Nvidia knows best how to optimize their drivers, which the JXD S192 isn't going to use.  Since most of the included game on the JXD are ripped/hacked versions, I doubt that Nvidia gave JXD much help.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 28, 2016, 08:03:37 pm
I have a lot of other gaming machines, It's just that the JXD s192 is so unique. Not "good" per se, but foremost unique.
It's an interesting blend of the most powerful portable gaming chip and obscure other stuff.

Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: adamantibus on May 28, 2016, 08:36:02 pm
I was on the fence about picking this up or not, but i'n not liking what i'm reading and seeing (low screen refresh rate, lack of gamestreaming compatibility, stuttery emulation, no root, battery issues...).

The device is clearly overpriced for what is. And JXD just don't have the best record when it comes to updates and fixing firmware issues.

At 199 $USD i'd probably get it.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on May 28, 2016, 11:56:52 pm
I spent the money on this unit to play all my retro games on better screen. I know it sounds like i may have possibly ly wasted my money when others out there can do the same at the fraction of the cost... to be honest, I love gadgets...Sure there's a lot of expectation for this unit for the  price tag but as many have mentioned here, Chinese game pad devices  are taken for what its worth with everything else is a bonus which is my philosophy . We would like to think that these companies will make a steller device that puts all the previous devies to shame, but they always come short.Lets be honest with ourselves, when you think of Chinese product, you think...poor quality knock offs... everything is super modified but when you strip it down you get all these parts mixed in with their poor quality parts in which they skimped on to keep cost low and the end results disappointments. thats why these forums exists,so that why talented people who can program and make corrections and even improve the functionally of the device. By that time, JXD will probably release a few updates and then  abandon the unit for their next creation to stay ahead of their competition (Chuckle).
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 29, 2016, 12:30:42 am
My battery is improving as it now says 97% I honestly believe it's something with Jxd's firmware as I'm able to game for 6-10 hours with it as long as I'm not playing a resource hogging game like Goat Simulator or GTA San Andreas in riot mode or the Dreamcast or Psp emulators. I've depleted it again and have it on charge to see if I can finally hit 100%.  All in all I agree with SiliconeMessiah 100% this is a quality product it just lacks in the official Nvidia Geforce Now and Gamestream departments and Nvidia Tablet games. I will be buying another one for sure.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on May 29, 2016, 12:52:06 am
My battery is improving as it now says 97% I honestly believe it's something with Jxd's firmware as I'm able to game for 6-10 hours with it as long as I'm not playing a resource hogging game like Goat Simulator or GTA San Andreas in riot mode or the Dreamcast or Psp emulators. I've depleted it again and have it on charge to see if I can finally hit 100%.  All in all I agree with SiliconeMessiah 100% this is a quality product it just lacks in the official Nvidia Geforce Now and Gamestream departments and Nvidia Tablet games. I will be buying another one for sure.

I dont doubt that this is a quality product its just that we have to do these extra things to get it to work like the battery. It would been nice for JXD to mention this. I saw a few post already on youtube on various unboxing and reviews with post of the battery charging. Luckily i was able to provide the solution with calibration and charging it  6-8 hours which is doing the trick.. As Elronza mentioned, it could be a firmware issue and hopefully JXD will release firmware with next month or two to correct these issues.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: ClawShrimp on May 29, 2016, 10:54:20 am
Hopefully we see a decent review up soon.
Let's see something we've not seen before. People rarely post videos of Sega Saturn games.
I'd also like to see someone use Gamesome, Nostalgia, Arc Browser...one of the emulator frontends.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 29, 2016, 11:09:15 am
I'll be using gamesome on my device. I'm a paid up user and beta tester. Hope victor has sorted the profile installation issues by the time I get mine.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 29, 2016, 08:31:57 pm
I'm 100% sure that it is the firmware/software that's causing the misreading of the batteries power level. Cause after I drained my Jxd S192 for the third time yesterday and put it on charge overnight it now shows 86% at full charge.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 29, 2016, 10:06:28 pm
Psu?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on May 30, 2016, 02:25:02 am
Im supposed to get mine on Tuesday... ill charge mine fully before using it and see what it reads.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 30, 2016, 07:09:33 am
Im supposed to get mine on Tuesday... ill charge mine fully before using it and see what it reads.

Yep. Do that. Interesting to see what it will show.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 30, 2016, 11:31:34 am
Jxd has acknowledged that there's indeed a problem with their software/firmware with the battery levels display on the Jxd S192 after I confronted them this morning on their Facebook post this morning!  They say that they have an update/fix on the way. We shall see!        https://www.facebook.com/JXDofficial/photos/a.709104832465525.1073741827.705152146194127/1146306862078651/?type=3&comment_id=1146351978740806&reply_comment_id=1146371682072169&notif_t=photo_reply&notif_id=1464603643420207
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 30, 2016, 11:33:22 am
Well that was a quick fix, I had seen the tegrazone3 add-on on gplay earlier in the week.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 30, 2016, 11:58:04 am
Wow. We might have Shield Hub/Gamestream incoming too!!!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 30, 2016, 01:37:16 pm
sheild hub is already here, if you check the fb link JXD says you just need to install the nvidia servic (aka tegrazone3) from the appstore
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 30, 2016, 02:45:21 pm
Yeah. But I meant making Gamestream availiable to choose.  ;D

Can someone try this, Elronza? To get Gamestream going?
I am currently in a move, so I don't have my stuff at hand.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 30, 2016, 02:49:31 pm
Oh... I thought if the service was installed the hub and game stream would also work along with the hub. I mean, moonlight works so Nvidia stream is also capable to work.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 30, 2016, 02:53:46 pm
Oh... I thought if the set ice was installed the hub and game stream would also work along with the hub. I mean, moonlight works so Nvidia stream is also capable to work.

We don't really know how to get Geforce NOW and Gamestream to work. It would be nice to get some info on this.
I really don't see why it should be a problem. Maybe it's that it requires a newer android version to work.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 30, 2016, 02:56:12 pm
No, android 4.0 or above.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 30, 2016, 03:00:49 pm
No, android 4.0 or above.

According to the faq on JXD:s homepage. Shield Hub and its functions like Gamestream and Geforce NOW is meant to work on this device.
Keep on trying.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 30, 2016, 03:02:01 pm
JXD have gone back to the software engineers to see what the say, I also asked for root access :-P
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: eragon2890 on May 30, 2016, 03:39:06 pm
To be honest, that sounds like a huge improvement over their earlier endeavours, when JXD's software support always used to be shit and/or non-existant.

Now they are listening and fixing problems apparently, that is a huge improvement.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 30, 2016, 04:07:12 pm
Yep.

I have had the problem with Shield Hub not showing Geforce Now and Gamestream even on my Shield TV.
On the Shield TV it is solved by clearing the cache/data and reinstalling the Shield Hub.

It might be something with the current, updated version of Shield Hub is not compatible with the old Android firmware.

But again, that is just a guess.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 30, 2016, 04:15:00 pm
No Geforce Now and Gamestream are still not showing and that's even after having side loaded the Shield Hub app as the S192 still isn't officially or otherwise recognized as compatible. Question did everyone else not notice that Jxd admitted to there being an issue with the S192's batteries power level being displayed properly?


Re:  Jxd has acknowledged that there's indeed a problem with their software/firmware with the battery levels display on the Jxd S192 after I confronted them this morning on their Facebook post this morning!  They say that they have an update/fix on the way. We shall see!        https://www.facebook.com/JXDofficial/photos/a.709104832465525.1073741827.705152146194127/1146306862078651/?type=3&comment_id=1146351978740806&reply_comment_id=1146371682072169&notif_t=photo_reply&notif_id=1464603643420207
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 30, 2016, 04:39:12 pm
No Geforce Now and Gamestream are still not showing and that's even after having side loaded the Shield Hub app as the S192 still isn't officially or otherwise recognized as compatible. Question did everyone else not notice that Jxd admitted to there being an issue with the S192's batteries power level being displayed properly?

Yep, and i see they promise to look into the Shield Hub/Gamestream/Geforce Now-problem too!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 30, 2016, 07:45:03 pm
Good news today is the day I'll post my review and comparison video between the Jxd S192, Nvidia Shield Portable, and the Gpd Xd.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 30, 2016, 08:13:09 pm
Good news today is the day I'll post my review and comparison video between the Jxd S192, Nvidia Shield Portable, and the Gpd Xd.

Great. Will be there to watch as soon as possible!

Now you peeps who has Facebook. Keep on asking and asking JXD for supporting Gamestream and Geforce NOW!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on May 30, 2016, 08:16:30 pm
Good news today is the day I'll post my review and comparison video between the Jxd S192, Nvidia Shield Portable, and the Gpd Xd.

Thats great news...im looking forward to it and see the comparisons.

No Geforce Now and Gamestream are still not showing and that's even after having side loaded the Shield Hub app as the S192 still isn't officially or otherwise recognized as compatible. Question did everyone else not notice that Jxd admitted to there being an issue with the S192's batteries power level being displayed properly?


Re:  Jxd has acknowledged that there's indeed a problem with their software/firmware with the battery levels display on the Jxd S192 after I confronted them this morning on their Facebook post this morning!  They say that they have an update/fix on the way. We shall see!        https://www.facebook.com/JXDofficial/photos/a.709104832465525.1073741827.705152146194127/1146306862078651/?type=3&comment_id=1146351978740806&reply_comment_id=1146371682072169&notif_t=photo_reply&notif_id=1464603643420207


I think we should gather the things that dont work and submit them over to JXD so they can address them in the first firmware fix. I know its wishful thinking but its the least they can do for waiting all this time to have a thats capable of doing alot more and even as advertised...
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: adamantibus on May 30, 2016, 08:22:55 pm
Make sure to remind them the issue causing low screen refresh rate. It's one of the most important things for a smooth emulation and it's very easy to fix.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 30, 2016, 08:40:30 pm
The screen refresh rate isn't low on the Jxd S192 it's average at 59.32hz - 59.72hz.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: hexdump on May 30, 2016, 08:46:53 pm
The odd thing is the oscillation... I have never seen anything like that on any device I had. Anyway, making JXD know about it would be the smart move if anyone can post it to them. This is one of the things they should nail.

Cheers.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: adamantibus on May 30, 2016, 08:51:09 pm
The screen refresh rate isn't low on the Jxd S192 it's average at 59.32hz - 59.72hz.
That's low. NTSC games require 59.94 minimum to run smoothly.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 30, 2016, 08:57:46 pm
I personally think the Jxd S192's refresh rate is higher but because of the issues with its firmware/software having already been proven to effect the battery readings other things like refresh rate may have been effected also.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on May 30, 2016, 09:16:26 pm
59.72 is not wnough for accurate emulation. That was the refresh rate in gpd xd and i applied a patch that gpd included too to put it 59.94 Hz. And the difference is noticeable. Though people that use skip late frames option in broglias emus may not noticeable, but vídeo and audio can be a little bit stuttery or have bad vsync. Shield tablet is not perfect in this sense either, because it's 59.80 in shield tablet. Could be fixable changing kernel though.
Here an exa!ple ofmthe dtsi file (for shield portable, just to get an idea where is changed). Changing it a little bit could make the trick, but jxd must compile a new kernel or release so someone can fix it and do it.

https://github.com/SuperPichu/shield-tablet-kernel/blob/master/arch/arm/boot/dts/panel-l-720p-5.dts
Refresh rate relies on the dtsi file of the screen, battery issues shouldn't have any effect o n screen refresh rate.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 31, 2016, 12:33:22 am
Hopefully the S192's screen refresh rate will be solved soon Skelton ,either by Jxd themselves or by someone else. Well I have a bit of good news before I record the video shortly. My wife Nada knowing I've been looking for a case for my S192 said why not use the zip-up pouch your Axe body-wash and shaving set came in. Sure enough the S192 fits in said pouch either standing up or laying flat with room to spare for adding padding and customizing. Not to mention it still has a usable pocket in the front.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 31, 2016, 12:44:48 am
This is the type of Axe bag I'm using for now with my Jxd S192.

http://geb.ebay.in/g/ImportHubViewItem?itemid=161971884459
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: failrunner on May 31, 2016, 12:53:42 am
Friends don't let friends smell axe. =(
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: hexdump on May 31, 2016, 09:02:05 am
Hi,

Don't know if this will have any effect but I posted about the screen refresh rate on jxd forums and they seem to be willing to fix this.

http://www.jxd.hk/questions/question/screen-refresh-rate-question/

If you think I should rewrite the question or I'm missing something let me know

Cheers.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on May 31, 2016, 03:52:08 pm
I just received my S192.  There wasn't any shrink-wrap on product's box.  There was a pink bubble wrap placed on top of the unit in the box.  I've plugged it in to charge up, and will leave it there for a few hours before powering it on for the first time.  The 5V 2A wall charger is very cheap, so I recommend no one using them.  As well, I was very disappointed that it only came with a 3' MicroUSB cable.  I've sold $30 eCigs that come with higher quality accessories, so there is really no excuse that a $300+ device come with low quality accessories.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 31, 2016, 03:54:40 pm
I'll keep using my 3amp usb charger or the Samsung note 2 Travel charger I currently use on the s7800.

Hope you don't have the same battery issues as others.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on May 31, 2016, 04:00:08 pm
I'll keep using my 3amp usb charger or the Samsung note 2 Travel charger I currently use on the s7800.

Hope you don't have the same battery issues as others.

I think Elronza posted something about it being a firmware issue.  So, hopefully it is only a temporary issue.  I can't really play with it until the guys in the warehouse have finished the daily orders, so that will be in about 3 hours.  We had a Memorial Day sale, so there are a few hundred extra orders for the weekend.  Once I fire it up, I'll let you know if it reads 100%.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 31, 2016, 04:02:29 pm
Well he was only guessing, I still find it hard to believe I have a few android devices with lipo batteries in them and I've never had to calibrate them.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on May 31, 2016, 04:17:33 pm
I asked JXD about a couple of things here:
http://www.jxd.hk/questions/question/kernel-source-and-firmware/

I don't think they answer me when they see my nickname too.

To check refresh rate, there is a benchmark that work quite well.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=se.nena.nenamark2&hl=es

It's a very old benchmark, but it renders at max fps according to the screen refresh rate of the device. So if it's 60hz, it should give 60.0 for openGL.

Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: hexdump on May 31, 2016, 05:16:34 pm
Could anyone with the S192 in his hands try the app that skelton suggests? It would be really nice to finally know the real refresh rate.

Cheers.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: mixwell on May 31, 2016, 05:28:00 pm
I get 59.8fps.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on May 31, 2016, 06:05:27 pm
Then it's the same as the shield tablet, not perfect at all.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: mixwell on May 31, 2016, 06:47:59 pm
I think display tester works better.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on May 31, 2016, 07:03:08 pm
Amazon has the Sandisk 200GB Ultra SD card on sale today for $59.99

http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Ultra-200GB-Micro-SDSDQUAN-200G-G4A/dp/B00V62XBQQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1464717825&sr=1-1&keywords=sandisk+ultra+200

Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: RaP1D450 on May 31, 2016, 07:18:28 pm
i get 60.0 fps

http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=274992NenaMark2201605311347.png

try
1: two core -- 30.0 fps

2: optimized -- 59.9 fps

3: optimized perf -- 60.0 fps

for the cell a charge into sleep mode and is very the best for charge...for me
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: hexdump on May 31, 2016, 08:52:18 pm
Thanks for the tests.

Anyone having any problem with the d-pad? Is is confortable? does it respond reliably?

Cheers
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 31, 2016, 09:41:50 pm
Sorry everyone for not posting the video Nada and I ate some stuffed clams that made us sick plus I was busy with Jxd last night. I've posted some of their responses to me below as well as the update they have sent out which not only doesn't fix the battery issue but has caused some games like Goat Simulator to no longer function.   

sales@jxdofficial.com
11:51 PM (16 hours ago)

to me
Please update your battery first.we will finish OTA pishing today.



sales@jxdofficial.com
1:37 AM (15 hours ago)

to me
when you turn on it,you can see it.

sales@jxdofficial.com
2:27 AM (14 hours ago)

to me
 Modify some device battery charging can't display right percentage.

please download this upgrad package,copy the "update.zip" to the s192 root dirctory . and reboot you device,it will prompt you upgrad.
https://mega.nz/#F!Q5wRERbT!4pMx-MU1djAT84kc9O8a5w

Nomatter if it can slove you problem,please tell me, thank you!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 31, 2016, 09:50:28 pm
Here's the link where it can be seen that I told Jxd that their update didn't work on my Jxd S192.



https://www.facebook.com/JXDofficial/photos/a.709104832465525.1073741827.705152146194127/1146306862078651/?type=3
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 31, 2016, 09:50:38 pm
Hmmm. Hackers will be interested in that update.zip. that's the same kind of file used to flash / update rom?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on May 31, 2016, 09:55:31 pm
Hmmm. Hackers will be interested in that update.zip. that's the same kind of file used to flash / update bottom?

I think they shiuld release a whole firmware i n their website to install it vía fasrboot, just oí n case someone can unbrick device or go back after a terrific update.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 31, 2016, 09:59:00 pm
Nvidia has just cleared the air on their board.

The Shield Hub/Geforce NOW/Gamestream will not be availiable on the JXD s192.

https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/938813/shield-portable/jxd-s192-and-shield-hub-gamestream-geforce-now/
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 31, 2016, 10:04:28 pm
Oh dear, well at least we know jxd are bullshitting us when they said it should and they will look into it.

Or... they could be working out a way to trick it into working.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 31, 2016, 10:05:56 pm
Oh dear, well at least we know jxd are bullshitting us when they said it should and they will look into it.

Or... they could be working out a way to trick it into working.

I have no idea. They work in unconventional ways, so you never know.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 31, 2016, 10:06:11 pm
Well there you have it! So our only options are someone spoof our device or find a way to make Shield Hub work for our device.

Re:   Nvidia has just cleared the air on their board.

The Shield Hub/Geforce NOW/Gamestream will not be availiable on the JXD s192.

https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/938813/shield-portable/jxd-s192-and-shield-hub-gamestream-geforce-now/
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 31, 2016, 10:11:43 pm
We can't do shit without root sadly so we need to wait and see.

And by unconventional I assume you mean illegal, like getting a licenced set of apps running haha
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on May 31, 2016, 10:12:27 pm
Well there you have it! So our only options are someone spoof our device or find a way to make Shield Hub work for our device.

Re:   Nvidia has just cleared the air on their board.

The Shield Hub/Geforce NOW/Gamestream will not be availiable on the JXD s192.

https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/938813/shield-portable/jxd-s192-and-shield-hub-gamestream-geforce-now/

Yep. And that will be hard (impossible?)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on May 31, 2016, 10:16:13 pm
If the jxd is running 4.4. maybe the towelroot method works to root it..
http://www.xda-developers.com/how-to-root-the-nvidia-shield-tablet-xda-developer-tv/
It was an easy way to root shield tablet in 4.4. or maybe kingoroot, but who is the brave to try it...... above all without a backup firmware to recover it in case something goes wrong.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: eragon2890 on May 31, 2016, 10:28:24 pm
We can't do shit without root sadly so we need to wait and see.

And by unconventional I assume you mean illegal, like getting a licenced set of apps running haha

I don't really care (and I think 99.5% of people these things don't care) one bit if it's legal or not, if it works that's good. I mean I also love the fact I can use the preinstalled happy chick on my GPD XD to downloads backups of the hundreds of arcade games, psx games, snes rpg's etc I don't have in my room... $_$
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on May 31, 2016, 10:32:30 pm
So, I got mine fully charged before ever even turning it on.  It took over 4 hours.  Once booted, it is reading 50% battery.  So, mine is just like Elronza's.  Go JXD!

ACK!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on May 31, 2016, 10:43:46 pm
It seems jxd still have to learn how to make a good firmware without softwin people doing it for them.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on May 31, 2016, 10:47:18 pm
You would think that this was a basic part of testing before saying it was ready?😂
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 31, 2016, 10:47:59 pm
Man I'm sorry to hear you too got the same problem LordDavon!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 31, 2016, 10:58:48 pm
Towel Root won't work with the Jxd S192.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on May 31, 2016, 10:59:57 pm
Man I'm sorry to hear you too got the same problem LordDavon!

I'm going to go see if I can find your thread to them, so I can lend my voice.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 31, 2016, 11:02:17 pm
When you try to install Towel Root using the S192 you get a message saying installation blocked this app uses code not approved by Android for installing on this device.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: adamantibus on May 31, 2016, 11:04:40 pm
I'm definitely skipping this one.

And if you really want to encourage JXD to do something about it, you should send your units back to them. They are defective after all.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 31, 2016, 11:05:36 pm
Here's the Facebook link LordDavon that I confronted Jxd on.            https://www.facebook.com/JXDofficial/photos/a.709104832465525.1073741827.705152146194127/1146306862078651/?type=3
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on May 31, 2016, 11:08:04 pm
Maybe they coded the JXD to hate Florida.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 31, 2016, 11:19:30 pm
Lol but that wouldn't explain the people in France and other places suffering the same problem LordDavon.        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMKoyxCpHw4
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on May 31, 2016, 11:29:02 pm
Now I can't get SD cards to work.  I was able to get one to work by formatting it, and then mounting it.  After rebooting, I couldn't get it to mount again.  I've used 2 different Samsung cards, and a PNY 128GB card.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 31, 2016, 11:34:03 pm
LordDavon what I  do is unmount and re-mount my sd card in settings/storage every time I restart my S192.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on May 31, 2016, 11:37:55 pm
There is only a mount and format option for the SD card.  You can tell it is mounted though.  If I pop it out, it tells me to unmount the card first.  But the system isn't reading that the card is mounted, and I can't see it in ES either.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: kristianity77 on May 31, 2016, 11:43:51 pm
Seems like there is more and more issues popping up with this device.  Nothing ever changes regarding JXD it seems.

More and more this is just making me hope for the day that the Vita is blown wide open.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on May 31, 2016, 11:44:59 pm
All you do upon restarting the S192 is unmount the sd card then press mount.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on June 01, 2016, 12:50:30 am
All you do upon restarting the S192 is unmount the sd card then press mount.

There is no unmount.  I got it working.  I found the issue.  When I have the device format the cards, the system is crashing, and the home screen reloads.  So after, I have to reboot the JXD, and I run a fix of the card on my PC, and the system is now reading it.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 01, 2016, 01:05:56 am
Bro there is an unmount sd in settings.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on June 01, 2016, 01:36:40 am
Bro there is an unmount sd in settings.

I know there is... when you have a mounted card.  There is no unmount when it doesn't read a card.  You are seeing it, since your card is working.  If you don't have a card, there is no unmount option.  When it was misreading my card, there was no unmount.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on June 01, 2016, 01:38:19 am
When my device went to sleep, my wifi shut off.  It wouldn't turn back on either, until I rebooted the JXD.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on June 01, 2016, 02:12:48 am
So, I applied their update.zip, and it seems to have fixed my battery issue.  After it installed, my JXD said that it was fully charged after a bit (I plugged it in to charge).  I unplugged it, and it started to drain normally.  Now, it seems to be charging again.  I am going to keep an eye on it, and see if it is starts acting up again.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on June 01, 2016, 04:55:43 am
Can someone explain how to apply the update? I just got mine today and I too have the battery issue...its ridiculous that you have to charge a new device for 8 hours to avoid the battery synchronization be broken. It sucks not be able to play with the unit as soon as you get at least to test it. Its like being teased by a hot girl and not being able to do something without getting in trouble...a pair of blue balls... I said F#ck it and went ahead...charged it for 40 min to see the status....and nothing
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on June 01, 2016, 04:57:55 am
Trying the root.apk posted by JXDOfficial now.  I will let you know if it works.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on June 01, 2016, 05:00:44 am
Can someone explain how to apply the update? I just got mine today and I too have the battery issue...its ridiculous that you have to charge a new device for 8 hours to avoid the battery synchronization be broken. It sucks not be able to play with the unit as soon as you get at least to test it. Its like being teased by a hot girl and not being able to do something without getting in trouble...a pair of blue balls... I said F#ck it and went ahead...charged it for 40 min to see the status....and nothing

Copy the update.zip file to /sdcard (the internal SD card).  Just put it right on the root of the directory, and reboot.  When it reboots, the system will detect the file and start the installation process.  After the second reboot, it will ask you if you want to apply the update, just answer no.  It will remove the file.

Then plug in the JXD and let it just continue to charge until the battery reads "charge".  That means it is 100% charged.  I used mine at the same time, and it didn't bother the charge.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on June 01, 2016, 05:20:56 am
Can someone explain how to apply the update? I just got mine today and I too have the battery issue...its ridiculous that you have to charge a new device for 8 hours to avoid the battery synchronization be broken. It sucks not be able to play with the unit as soon as you get at least to test it. Its like being teased by a hot girl and not being able to do something without getting in trouble...a pair of blue balls... I said F#ck it and went ahead...charged it for 40 min to see the status....and nothing

Copy the update.zip file to /sdcard (the internal SD card).  Just put it right on the root of the directory, and reboot.  When it reboots, the system will detect the file and start the installation process.  After the second reboot, it will ask you if you want to apply the update, just answer no.  It will remove the file.

Then plug in the JXD and let it just continue to charge until the battery reads "charge".  That means it is 100% charged.  I used mine at the same time, and it didn't bother the charge.

Thank You Lord...its updated so now for the the charge...
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on June 01, 2016, 05:31:16 am
It's rooted.  I used Kingroot to root the S192. 

http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/one-click-root-tool-android-2-x-5-0-t3107461
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 01, 2016, 06:15:11 am
Thats fantastic news, check build.prop and see what the s192 is set up as.

Did the 360 root JXD provided not work?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on June 01, 2016, 06:21:33 am
Edited the build.prop and it unlocked Shield Hub.

(http://s33.postimg.org/yarqg71db/JXD_Shield_Hub.jpg)

I edited the following lines from the Shield Tablet, if I found them in the JXD build.prop:
ro.build.user=NVIDIA
ro.product.model=SHIELD Tablet
ro.product.brand=nvidia
ro.product.name=wx_na_wf
ro.product.device=shieldtablet
ro.product.manufacturer=NVIDIA
ro.build.product=shieldtablet

I will mess with it more tomorrow.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 01, 2016, 06:22:57 am
Cool, a few people on here will be very happy
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on June 01, 2016, 06:23:37 am
Thats fantastic news, check build.prop and see what the s192 is set up as.

Did the 360 root JXD provided not work?

It locked up at 60% and the rerun didn't work.  So, I looked elsewhere.

I've got Shield Hub working, so I am going to mess with it in the morning and make sure everything works.  The options open, but I haven't tried streaming yet or using Geforce Now.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on June 01, 2016, 06:24:41 am
Edited the build.prop and it unlocked Shield Hub.

(http://s33.postimg.org/yarqg71db/JXD_Shield_Hub.jpg)

I edited the following lines from the Shield Tablet, if I found them in the JXD build.prop:
ro.build.user=NVIDIA
ro.product.model=SHIELD Tablet
ro.product.brand=nvidia
ro.product.name=wx_na_wf
ro.product.device=shieldtablet
ro.product.manufacturer=NVIDIA
ro.build.product=shieldtablet

I will mess with it more tomorrow.

Oh my god.
You are a hero.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on June 01, 2016, 06:25:34 am
If anyone else wants to mess with their build.prop, here is the build.prop from my Shield Tablet: http://pastebin.com/Ay1GUBf7

Make sure to back yours up first. ;-)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on June 01, 2016, 06:36:57 am
Just a quick update.  I tested both Geforce Now and Gamestream, and they both are working!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 01, 2016, 07:03:35 am
I said this trick would work, once we got root. I used it on the s7800 as well.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on June 01, 2016, 07:08:19 am
I said this trick would work, once we got root. I used it on the s7800 as well.

Yup.  This is pretty basic stuff.  Just glad that there wasn't anything else needed in Shield Hub to get the functions going.  I subscribe to Geforce Now, so I am happy I can use it on the JXD.  I tested Sonic in Geforce Now and Gamestream'ed Dark Souls III, just to make sure the controller worked fine in both; which it does.  Now, I'm off to bed.  I'll dive deeper into the build.prop once the orders ship out tomorrow.  Hopefully Nvidia won't try to block this in future updates.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: hexdump on June 01, 2016, 08:46:38 am
Again, people doing JXD work... Man, this is a shame.

All my respect to LordDavon for his progresses with the firmware. Perhaps we could fix the screen refresh too :D.

I was going to cancel my order after seeing all this problems with battery, etc... but know I see hope :).

Cheers.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 01, 2016, 09:12:43 am
Edited the build.prop and it unlocked Shield Hub.

(http://s33.postimg.org/yarqg71db/JXD_Shield_Hub.jpg)

I edited the following lines from the Shield Tablet, if I found them in the JXD build.prop:
ro.build.user=NVIDIA
ro.product.model=SHIELD Tablet
ro.product.brand=nvidia
ro.product.name=wx_na_wf
ro.product.device=shieldtablet
ro.product.manufacturer=NVIDIA
ro.build.product=shieldtablet

I will mess with it more tomorrow.

Basically what we suspected.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 01, 2016, 11:59:24 am
@LordDavon, I have a favour to ask. Can you instakk this app and tell me what the joystick name is displayed?

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.bostwickenator.joystick&hl=es

also, since you are rooted, any chance you can upload the kl files inside system/usr/keylayout?

by the way, has anyone tried Retroarch in this device? Does control work out of the box or can be remapped at least? retroarch is an essential emu to me. (because of shaders that are pretty much needed in a device with so huge resolution)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on June 01, 2016, 12:03:56 pm
This is now by far the best gaming-device I have ever owned! Will order another spare one as I get enough funds, as it is pretty expensive.

Everything works as intended on my side. Battery and my Nvidia-services that I pay for monthly.

 Great job everyone & big thanks.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: MOFO on June 01, 2016, 12:14:02 pm
It's great to see GeoForce now working but you shouldn't have to do all these work arounds yourself, especially since JXD advertised the product with theses services.
It was one of the reasons I was interested in the S192 to begin with and now forget it given it has battery/screen refresh problems as well, not sure what the hell JXD was doing for over a year it was delayed but apparently nothing!
They could at least optimized it and checked to see if everything worked as it should but I guess that's too much work for them, generally speaking it looks to be a well built device but the lack of software development to get it running perfectly with the hardware is truly disappointing.
My advice is unless your familiar with rooting ( which can brick it if not careful 😭) is just get a Shield tablet with Shileld controller, it works great and its much cheaper .
Yes I realize it's not the same as a all built in 1 device but at least you don't have to do all the work yourself, one thing I really hate is not getting what you think your paying for and shame on JXD for doing such a horrible job getting everything right after all this time it was delayed.
Good luck guys with your devices but you will never see me buying one unless it goes way down in price given all the problems it has.
Peace
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on June 01, 2016, 01:47:08 pm
@LordDavon, I have a favour to ask. Can you instakk this app and tell me what the joystick name is displayed?

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.bostwickenator.joystick&hl=es

also, since you are rooted, any chance you can upload the kl files inside system/usr/keylayout?

by the way, has anyone tried Retroarch in this device? Does control work out of the box or can be remapped at least? retroarch is an essential emu to me. (because of shaders that are pretty much needed in a device with so huge resolution)
Is this what you are looking for?  Action=2 from jxd_key

I have to take the wife and baby to the doctor's, but I am happy to check out the rest after.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 01, 2016, 01:53:21 pm
Would you be able to check and confirm screen refresh we have been given a couple of different results. Hopefully it's 60 as in prev test and not the slow 59.x
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 01, 2016, 02:04:45 pm
@LordDavon, I have a favour to ask. Can you instakk this app and tell me what the joystick name is displayed?

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.bostwickenator.joystick&hl=es

also, since you are rooted, any chance you can upload the kl files inside system/usr/keylayout?

by the way, has anyone tried Retroarch in this device? Does control work out of the box or can be remapped at least? retroarch is an essential emu to me. (because of shaders that are pretty much needed in a device with so huge resolution)
Is this what you are looking for?  Action=2 from jxd_key

I have to take the wife and baby to the doctor's, but I am happy to check out the rest after.

Yep, it seems fine. JXD_KEY is a strange name though, not sure if Retroarch will have autoconfig for it. Though can be remapped I guess.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on June 01, 2016, 02:23:39 pm
Now that we have got Gamestream/Geforce NOW showing, it should not be a problem for JXD:s engineers to fix it in the next firmware update. I expekt them to get it to work without us users editing the build.prop.

Can anyone who has Facebook update JXD on this matter. Bring them the solution?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 01, 2016, 02:25:34 pm
They might not be allowed to make it work, I mean Nvidia may have warned them off which is why it's not in the final version of the firmware they released it with.

If course being a chineese manufacture jxd might not care.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on June 01, 2016, 02:31:26 pm
Hmmm...I don't think they are breaking any rules with getting access to that part. Nvidia is Nvidia, and according to the system, we have got shield devices.

I would be very thankful if someone here could highlight JXD about this, so they could spit out an update.zip to us. Does not seem to be a hard problem for them to solve. I don't have Facebook, so that is why I am asking. :)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 01, 2016, 02:47:14 pm
We havent got sheild devices though, Nvidia clarified that themselves direct from the horse's mouth on the Nvidia forums.

And you don't think making their device pretend to be an Nvidia sheild device to make Nvidia software that they already said won't run is not breaking any rules?

I'm betting the s192 was able to run the software originally and Nvidia told them to remove it.

I'm sure someone on this forum will create an update file to do this tho. Or jxd release a backdoor file leaked of course.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 01, 2016, 02:57:06 pm
No need for someone to make a update. Lord davon included the steps to do it manually. Or if someone makes a custom rom will include it by default i guess. There is not much people that makes roms for these gaming devices though. I don't think jxd spoof device as an official shield in an update, because it should have issues with NVIDIA.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 01, 2016, 02:58:14 pm
You need root to this, some people don't like or want to root.  I think silliconmessiah doesnt want to.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 01, 2016, 03:11:10 pm
You need root to this, some people don't like or want to root.  I think silliconmessiah doesnt want to.

Well, then they won't use that, because I don't think JXD spoof it like that. For me root is essential in all devices, to move obb data of games to SD for example with folder mount.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 01, 2016, 03:27:28 pm
Thank you LordDavon for opening up the Jxd S192 and fixing the Geforce Now,Shield Hub, Nvidia GameStream issues also! You Sir are MVP of the Jxd S192 lol!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 01, 2016, 05:17:38 pm
LordDavon or anyone else with the update having been installed when you go into settings and tap/click About tablet does your's read:

Model number
s192

Android version
4.4.4

Kernel version
3.10.24
weijingbao@server-252#1
Mon May 30 19:48:26 cst 2016

???

 
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on June 01, 2016, 05:47:04 pm
LordDavon or anyone else with the update having been installed when you go into settings and tap/click About tablet does your's read:

Model number
s192

Android version
4.4.4

Kernel version
3.10.24
weijingbao@server-252#1
Mon May 30 19:48:26 cst 2016

???

What is the problem with this? You don´t get it to work?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on June 01, 2016, 06:03:25 pm
LordDavon or anyone else with the update having been installed when you go into settings and tap/click About tablet does your's read:

Model number
s192

Android version
4.4.4

Kernel version
3.10.24
weijingbao@server-252#1
Mon May 30 19:48:26 cst 2016

???

Well, my model number reads SHIELD Tablet.  The rest is correct though.  If they didn't update the kernel, that wouldn't change.  What is your build number?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 01, 2016, 06:05:03 pm
LordDavon or anyone else with the update having been installed when you go into settings and tap/click About tablet does your's read:

Model number
s192

Android version
4.4.4

Kernel version
3.10.24
weijingbao@server-252#1
Mon May 30 19:48:26 cst 2016

???

May be  the update overwrite the build.prop.? LordDavonm did you change build.prop after ot before apllying the update?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 01, 2016, 06:14:36 pm
My build number is: S192-01-v1.5-20160530.193100
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: mixwell on June 01, 2016, 06:57:38 pm
I rooted mine.

Changed build prop to match the Lords.

But Nvidia hub still says my device isn't compatible.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 01, 2016, 06:57:46 pm
Lord Davon I too have edited build prop and rooted as you have listed below the same as has Mixwell  and still Shield Hub isn't working for me.   

Re: I edited the following lines from the Shield Tablet, if I found them in the JXD build.prop:
ro.build.user=NVIDIA
ro.product.model=SHIELD Tablet
ro.product.brand=nvidia
ro.product.name=wx_na_wf
ro.product.device=shieldtablet
ro.product.manufacturer=NVIDIA
ro.build.product=shieldtablet

I will mess with it more tomorrow.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on June 01, 2016, 07:07:27 pm
Lord Davon I too have edited build prop and rooted as you have listed below the same as has Mixwell  and still Shield Hub isn't working for me.   

Re: I edited the following lines from the Shield Tablet, if I found them in the JXD build.prop:
ro.build.user=NVIDIA
ro.product.model=SHIELD Tablet
ro.product.brand=nvidia
ro.product.name=wx_na_wf
ro.product.device=shieldtablet
ro.product.manufacturer=NVIDIA
ro.build.product=shieldtablet

I will mess with it more tomorrow.

You need to reboot after editing.  Also, I hadn't installed Shield Hub until after editing.  So it may need to be removed and reinstalled.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on June 01, 2016, 07:12:37 pm
May be  the update overwrite the build.prop.? LordDavonm did you change build.prop after ot before apllying the update?

I applied the update long before editing the build.prop.  I did install Shield Hub after editing the build.prop and rebooting.  I use BuildProp Editor, since it has a reboot option in the menu.  Once the unit rebooted, I installed the latest Shield Hub from apkmirror.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: mixwell on June 01, 2016, 07:22:40 pm
May be  the update overwrite the build.prop.? LordDavonm did you change build.prop after ot before apllying the update?

I applied the update long before editing the build.prop.  I did install Shield Hub after editing the build.prop and rebooting.  I use BuildProp Editor, since it has a reboot option in the menu.  Once the unit rebooted, I installed the latest Shield Hub from apkmirror.

Ahh you didn't try installing it from the play store then?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 01, 2016, 07:23:04 pm
May be  the update overwrite the build.prop.? LordDavonm did you change build.prop after ot before apllying the update?

I applied the update long before editing the build.prop.  I did install Shield Hub after editing the build.prop and rebooting.  I use BuildProp Editor, since it has a reboot option in the menu.  Once the unit rebooted, I installed the latest Shield Hub from apkmirror.

that explain it. Probably the update overwrite the build.prop, so I am afraid you'll need to do the same process after each update.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on June 01, 2016, 07:25:08 pm
Ahh you didn't try installing it from the play store then?

No.  I already had the apk, since I was going to root my Pixel C and do the same thing.  Not sure it matters where it is installed from.  I think it matters more when it is installed in the process.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on June 01, 2016, 07:32:24 pm
that explain it. Probably the update overwrite the build.prop, so I am afraid you'll need to do the same process after each update.

Probably going to have to reroot after a full update anyway.  Making a copy of the edited build.prop is a good idea.  I can upload mine somewhere for everyone.

I still haven't messed with it today.  Orders just went out, and the kids are asking for rides.  ARG!  16 year old is going for her license this Friday too, so she wants to drive everywhere.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 01, 2016, 07:37:45 pm
Still a no go for me I updated, rooted and edited build prop before installing shield hub ,and after installing while I can now see Geforce Now and PC Games ;I'm unable to make use of either feature.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 01, 2016, 07:39:49 pm
Still a no go for me I updated, rooted and edited build prop before installing shield hub ,and after installing while I can now see Geforce Now and PC Games ;I'm unable to make use of either feature.
When you reboot and re open the file are your changes still there ?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 01, 2016, 07:44:10 pm
My changes stay intact after rebooting.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 01, 2016, 07:47:15 pm
Maybe it's a good idea changing the fingerprint too in the build.prop. If someone post it the original unmodified build.prop I can take a look if you want.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on June 01, 2016, 08:02:22 pm
So what is the difference in what Elronza has done? Why can´t he make use of Gamestream/Geforce NOW?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: failrunner on June 01, 2016, 08:05:22 pm
If you need the fingerprint from the tablet here it is.

nvidia/wx_na_wf/shieldtablet:6.0.1/MRA58K/40827_700.6895:user/release-keys
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 01, 2016, 08:06:49 pm
Thanks Failrunner!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on June 01, 2016, 08:13:51 pm
Here is a link to the build.prop that works on mine.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bznb50dJixEOTjE4UHZKdWluWVE
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: failrunner on June 01, 2016, 08:14:46 pm
Thanks Failrunner!
You're welcome.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on June 01, 2016, 08:16:45 pm
Make sure to load the latest version of Shield Hub.  It is SHIELD Hub 4.11.20756879
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 01, 2016, 08:26:20 pm
Yes it works now! My complete list of games on my Alienware 18 shows in PC games man I'm over joyed.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on June 01, 2016, 08:32:37 pm
Yes it works now! My complete list of games on my Alienware 18 shows in PC games man I'm over joyed.

Thank goodness.  I had my best tech working overtime on this.  Going to let him rest now.

(http://s33.postimg.org/4rdxm80q7/Jocab_Workin.jpg)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: mixwell on June 01, 2016, 08:37:35 pm
Got it working on mine too :)

Now to fix the stuck pixel :(
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 01, 2016, 08:40:25 pm
Hey LordDavon you'd better buy that Tec some cookies he's earned them and employee of the month status! Now to put those spider-monkeys at Jxd in check lol.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 01, 2016, 08:45:58 pm
Now on to our last hurdle which is getting the S192 recognized as a Shield Tablet in the Google Play store for games/apps.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on June 01, 2016, 08:53:39 pm
Now on to our last hurdle which is getting the S192 recognized as a Shield Tablet in the Google Play store for games/apps.

I doubt they will do that.  I see them hacking a Shield Hub, before changing their tablet.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 01, 2016, 08:58:37 pm
Sadly there's no other option to getting shield tablet games to install on our Jxd S192's from the Google Play store. Which is where Shield Hub takes you when you click on a game to buy or download anyways.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 01, 2016, 09:02:25 pm
And that Tec of yours deserves to be CEO or Vice President. His multi-tasking skills are off the charts!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on June 01, 2016, 09:02:48 pm
Sadly there's no other option to getting shield tablet games to install on our Jxd S192's from the Google Play store. Which is where Shield Hub takes you when you click on a game to buy or download anyways.

They are almost all in the link they sent you when you ordered it.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 01, 2016, 09:22:09 pm

Lmfao Re:They are almost all in the link they sent you when you ordered it.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on June 01, 2016, 10:32:55 pm

Lmfao Re:They are almost all in the link they sent you when you ordered it.

lol...  Did you find the link?  I think it may have been the shipping email.  It has a link to download all the games.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 01, 2016, 10:39:36 pm
Care to share ;-) ?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: eman2001 on June 01, 2016, 10:52:10 pm
hi
my jxd s192 wont turn on and only shows the yellow light when am pressing the power on button, any help would be appreciated as this is frustrating me and i want to smash it to the floor
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Mihos on June 01, 2016, 11:56:43 pm
hi
my jxd s192 wont turn on and only shows the yellow light when am pressing the power on button, any help would be appreciated as this is frustrating me and i want to smash it to the floor

Mine arrived with the same issue.  When I plug it in, I only get a yellow LED.  Pressing the power button for 10 seconds makes it turn off, plugging it in or pressing the button brings the LED back, but the screen never does anything (no backlight, charging, nothing)

Reset button does nothing
Not recognized by USB on a PC
Volume buttons(up, down , both) + power for 10, 30, 120 seconds does nothing
Left it on charger with yellow LED on for 8 hours, same
Left if on charger after turning off LED with power switch for 8 hours nothing.

Already left a message with JXD sales, but it is after hours, so no responce yet.

I have a ton of devices like this, and to me at first glance, looks like it may just be the battery may have completely discharged, or there may be a firmware lockout until the battery reaches a certain %... that it never reaches because of the firmware battery bug... or the unit may just be trashed.  It is a bad time for this since I will be travelling a lot and can't be sure I will be in town when a replacement arrives.

I will let you know what comes out of it.  I still think it is something simple.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 02, 2016, 01:12:05 am
Even after updating my Jxd S192's battery life is not being displayed correctly. Who else is still having this problem after updating? Also yes LordDavon I have the links to the folders with the Shield Tablet games,but they will not download and allow me to view and play them. What should I do when downloading them?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on June 02, 2016, 01:28:58 am
Even after updating my Jxd S192's battery life is not being displayed correctly. Who else is still having this problem after updating? Also yes LordDavon I have the links to the folders with the Shield Tablet games,but they will not download and allow me to view and play them. What should I do when downloading them?

I will catch you on FB and send you the encryption key and info.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on June 02, 2016, 01:29:51 am
Care to share ;-) ?

Not here.  I'm not sure it is legit, so I'd rather not post it.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on June 02, 2016, 06:10:05 am
How's that video-review of yours coming along, Elronza?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: mixwell on June 02, 2016, 08:14:45 am
Well mine is now dead :/

I was planning to update with the battery update but after rebooting it shows the jxd logo then the display goes blank, the little green light stays on.

Soo.... Any help???!?!?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 02, 2016, 09:46:59 am
I guess you replaced build.prop directly without changing permissions. You will need to flash a whole firmware if jxd publish it. Or perhaps there is a combo to enter recovery and you can apply the update.zip from there.  Try some.combo like power and a volume button
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: mixwell on June 02, 2016, 10:18:02 am
You will need to flash a whole firmware if jxd publish it. Or perhaps there is a combo to enter recovery and you can apply the update.zip from there.  Try some.combo like power and a volume button

Tried all sorts of combo's no dice. Need drivers for the PC to recognise it, need firmware to reflash.

I guess its going back in its box for a while or the bin.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: eragon2890 on June 02, 2016, 10:21:08 am
Goddamnit. I really wanted to start saving money and get one, don´t really care about geforce now, but , like the jxd s7800b before  it, it´s a giant POS© .

Guess I will go for the GPD win then, if it stays at 300 and does not actually go and cost 500 dollars. XD
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 02, 2016, 10:33:22 am
I guess you replaced build.prop directly without changing permissions. You will need to flash a whole firmware if jxd publish it. Or perhaps there is a combo to enter recovery and you can apply the update.zip from there.  Try some.combo like power and a volume button

Yes rather stupidly I did that.

Tried all sorts of combo's no dice. Need drivers for the PC to recognise it, need firmware to reflash.

I guess its going back in its box for a while or the bin.

Try using ADB. Install these drivers and cjeck if your device recognized via adb at least.

https://developer.nvidia.com/gameworksdownload#?search=SHIELD%20Family%20Windows%20USB

If it's recognized you can try the command adb reboot recovery, and see what happens.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: mixwell on June 02, 2016, 11:17:12 am
By holding power and vol up, windows asks for an apx driver....
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 02, 2016, 11:53:44 am
Does not come these drivers with the nvidia package?

Try the following:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/shield-tablet/help/shield-tablet-stuck-apx-mode-black-t3074446

Perhaps installing the minimal adb and fastboot drivers work.

Or these ones:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2386956

Or try to contact JXd to see if they can gibe you a full firmwar with instructions
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: mixwell on June 02, 2016, 12:47:14 pm
Read through them and it seems no one solved the tablet apx problem.

I already had adb and fastboot installed no luck there either.

I'll have to go cap in hand to jxd.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 02, 2016, 12:51:27 pm
Don't tell them you modified the file, just forget that part for a moment.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: mixwell on June 02, 2016, 01:15:18 pm
Don't tell them you modified the file, just forget that part for a moment.

Indeed.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Mihos on June 02, 2016, 01:51:53 pm
By holding power and vol up, windows asks for an apx driver....

My unit I can get to at least ask for the APX driver, although I have had no luck in providing one it accepts. 

My unit showed up dead, so a little different scenario.  All support asked me was to send a picture.... I have no idea what a powered off unit with a yellow LED on is going to show them, but what ever.  If it ends with me getting the boot ROM or an APX driver, I will make sure to host it for you guys.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: mixwell on June 02, 2016, 01:53:34 pm
By holding power and vol up, windows asks for an apx driver....

My unit I can get to at least ask for the APX driver, although I have had no luck in providing one it accepts. 

My unit showed up dead, so a little different scenario.  All support asked me was to send a picture.... I have no idea what a powered off unit with a yellow LED on is going to show them, but what ever.  If it ends with me getting the boot ROM or an APX driver, I will make sure to host it for you guys.

Thanks that will be handy ;)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: eman2001 on June 02, 2016, 02:30:39 pm



hello,
yeah this is now becoming a big problem as i have read through the forums and found out that there are some people having the same issue and no one seems to know a way around it, the problem is when the yellow light comes on as you tired to power the device on, there is literally nothing else we could do, tired holding this button and that button with the power button  for this seconds it, doesn't matter all you get is a flipping yellow light with a blank screen which sucks, if jxd doesn't come up with a solution this would be my last jxd product as i was really looking forward to this console now i have one, i cant even use the damn thing, i dont know if skelton has an idea to this problem or anyone 

thanks
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 02, 2016, 02:36:00 pm
Is the battery accessible? Could try taking the battery out... holding down power for 10 seconds, replace battery and try power on.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Mihos on June 02, 2016, 03:15:50 pm
Is the battery accessible? Could try taking the battery out... holding down power for 10 seconds, replace battery and try power on.

Not without breaking the QA seal.  I may or may not do that depending on what comes from the e-mail I sent to sales. 

I am not expecting much help from them to be honest.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: eman2001 on June 02, 2016, 03:41:03 pm
i might have to break the damn QA seal open it and try to take the battery out and back if that the last result that would fix this thing because regardless this thing is as good as dead anyways sitting back in its box because it doesn't work  >:(
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 02, 2016, 04:06:16 pm
Well could try as last resort. It usually fixes probs with my phone, the QA seal, can you use a hairdryer and peel it off intact, that's what we used to do with the Xbox 360 and ps2 seals haha
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: adamantibus on June 02, 2016, 04:58:22 pm
I don't get why don't you send your units back to wherever you purchased them... 
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Mihos on June 02, 2016, 05:15:24 pm
I don't get why don't you send your units back to wherever you purchased them...

Easy, China doesn't work that way.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: adamantibus on June 02, 2016, 05:22:38 pm
Yeah, but we're talking here about a 340$ device. You should at least try. Especially if you bought it directly from JXD.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Mihos on June 02, 2016, 05:34:20 pm
Yeah, but we're talking here about a 340$ device. You should at least try. Especially if you bought it directly from JXD.

Of course, and there is a process to that. 
You contact sales... done
You describe problem.... done
They try to remedy it without a return.... pending
they send you an RMA and shipping instructions....
You ship back unit.......
Your account gets credited....


You skipped past everything, you don't just write "CHINA" on the box and dump it in a post office drop box.

I also knew exactly what I was getting into, and I wouldn't recommend just anyone go my route of ordering these things direct.  I collect these things as a hobby and my financial situation allows me to play around with things like this, so I may not be as hot headed over the shady thing I ordered from overseas being a little under supported as someone else might be... I understand why someone younger or more cash strapped would be though.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 02, 2016, 06:19:42 pm
As ive said before, i bought from a UK reseller meaning i have full warranty in the uk for 3yrs..

non of this shipping back to china bullshit at my cost.

Sadly that does mean i have to wait for JXD to send the whole shipment to re-seller before they can start sending them out to customers.

I cant believe there are no resellers in the USA ?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 02, 2016, 07:00:28 pm
I was thinking selling my q9PSV and perhaps getting one of this, but after seeing JXD attitude (not releasing whole firmeare or kernel) and seeing how some people are having issues with it (considering the few people that have one), I think I won't.

My main interest is firmware developing and kernel for it, but knowing JXd I don't think they provide anything (above all because they got angry when I leaked the 7800b source code) And 300 euros just for developing is just too much....
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 02, 2016, 08:21:28 pm
I'm not even sure how to review a product fixed by others that costs over $300 and they risk buying a factory direct brick! I mean finally my S192 is working right and my battery reads charged when fully charged. But look how long it took to reach this point and my issues weren't fixed by Jxd but by others and me using various different apps to fix things that should have been worked out in testing way before shipping this device to people. I mean I don't want to review this device and make it sound great only for someone to get burnt!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: happyhippy on June 02, 2016, 08:22:12 pm
@eman2001. With some finicky tablets I have owned in the past I have had luck getting them to charge/turn on by doing a trickle charge off of a PC/Mac usb port (for like 1-2 hours).

I have also had a case where one of my phones would not charge. I got it working by plugging it into my computer and then restarted the computer with the phone still plugged in, it then started charging. Maybe try that before cracking open the device?

I got my S192 late last week and it too had the odd battery issue. I installed the update and so far so good.

Just figured I would offer that up.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on June 02, 2016, 08:36:13 pm
I was thinking selling my q9PSV and perhaps getting one of this, but after seeing JXD attitude (not releasing whole firmeare or kernel) and seeing how some people are having issues with it (considering the few people that have one), I think I won't.

My main interest is firmware developing and kernel for it, but knowing JXd I don't think they provide anything (above all because they got angry when I leaked the 7800b source code) And 300 euros just for developing is just too much....

Let me bug them tonight and see if I can get it.  If I can, I will send it to you.  I'm planning on asking them to put a modified build.prop patch file in an update.zip anyway.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on June 02, 2016, 08:41:12 pm
Yeah, an update with edited build.prop would make things easier for the common user to get shield hub-access.
Very good idea.

If JXD won't do it, is is possible for anyone else to do that?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: failrunner on June 02, 2016, 08:47:19 pm
I'm not even sure how to review a product fixed by others that costs over $300 and they risk buying a factory direct brick! I mean finally my S192 is working right and my battery reads charged when fully charged. But look how long it took to reach this point and my issues weren't fixed by Jxd but by others and me using various different apps to fix things that should have been worked out in testing way before shipping this device to people. I mean I don't want to review this device and make it sound great only for someone to get burnt!
Give it a bad review you don't have to give it a great review.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on June 02, 2016, 08:57:09 pm
Failrunner, it's not a bad machine per se. Not at all. It's good quality and runs stuff in a very good way.

But there are flaws wich should have been ironed out by JXD beforehand.
It took some time before things got up and running flawlessly.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 02, 2016, 09:48:41 pm
I was thinking selling my q9PSV and perhaps getting one of this, but after seeing JXD attitude (not releasing whole firmeare or kernel) and seeing how some people are having issues with it (considering the few people that have one), I think I won't.

My main interest is firmware developing and kernel for it, but knowing JXd I don't think they provide anything (above all because they got angry when I leaked the 7800b source code) And 300 euros just for developing is just too much....

Let me bug them tonight and see if I can get it.  If I can, I will send it to you.  I'm planning on asking them to put a modified build.prop patch file in an update.zip anyway.
Tell them it's in their best interest to release a rom... preferably 5.0. And get these bugs sorted with default root. People will be more likely to buy it.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on June 02, 2016, 10:58:21 pm
I had to chime because I see some interesting points made...

Yeah, but we're talking here about a 340$ device. You should at least try. Especially if you bought it directly from JXD.

Of course, and there is a process to that. 
You contact sales... done
You describe problem.... done
They try to remedy it without a return.... pending
they send you an RMA and shipping instructions....
You ship back unit.......
Your account gets credited....


You skipped past everything, you don't just write "CHINA" on the box and dump it in a post office drop box.

I also knew exactly what I was getting into, and I wouldn't recommend just anyone go my route of ordering these things direct.  I collect these things as a hobby and my financial situation allows me to play around with things like this, so I may not be as hot headed over the shady thing I ordered from overseas being a little under supported as someone else might be... I understand why someone younger or more cash strapped would be though.

Mihos hits it right on the button. Though its bad business practice on JXD's end, As Mihos pointed out, most of us here (Myself included) knew what we were getting into and fall into this category of a hobby. These devices appeal to me because of the retro games that really can't find anywhere commercially with a device that was made for it.. Im happy that China was able to make a product like this but at the same time, its like a double edge sword, Chinese made devices are not made in the most conventional ways and are able to get around the polotics to build something like this. At the same time, there is very little support and there is, its at your own expense. For the most part, Mine seems to be working fine including after I applied the update... Im not a heavy user like some here but I will wait till there are some stable updates. These guys here on this site are  super talented and know what they are doing so for that, I am grateful (Elronza,Lord,Silocon,a7mag3ddon,skelton...and to those who I missed or spelled your screen name wrong, Its all good.. I appreciate your efforts) . I love these units and have made it easier for the average player who are not looking for something fresh and new. I collect this as a hobby and I can afford to buy these units and would most likely buy the next best unit coming out of China...So this isn't my first nor my last..


The one thing that JXD should've done and hasn't done so already, is put out this update for the battery.. More and more people are reporting this issue as they start to receive their device.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: kristianity77 on June 03, 2016, 12:05:45 am
As ive said before, i bought from a UK reseller meaning i have full warranty in the uk for 3yrs..

non of this shipping back to china bullshit at my cost.

Sadly that does mean i have to wait for JXD to send the whole shipment to re-seller before they can start sending them out to customers.

I cant believe there are no resellers in the USA ?

Where sells these directly from the UK, I've had a look but cannot find anything?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: failrunner on June 03, 2016, 12:36:32 am
Failrunner, it's not a bad machine per se. Not at all. It's good quality and runs stuff in a very good way.

But there are flaws wich should have been ironed out by JXD beforehand.
It took some time before things got up and running flawlessly.
I'm sure it's not terrible but sounded like he was hell bent on giving it a good review which I understand because he bought and I'm sure he wants it to do well. However that doesn't mean he has to give it a good review if he doesn't think it deserves one or not give it one at all because he would give it a bad review. I've reviewed products I was really looking forward to poorly and told people to steer clear of them as my as I didn't want to. He could also give jxd time to get the device together as well before reviewing it. I think he may feel a little pressure to do the review right away as well.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on June 03, 2016, 01:13:59 am
I spoke with Elronza earlier today and here was my suggestion:
Review the device as stock, and give a verdict.  Then explain the changes needed, the risks involved, and show what the device can become.  Then give a second verdict.  This will allow people who won't want to tinker see the device for themselves, and those who do like to tinker get the same.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 03, 2016, 01:18:04 am
The Jxd S192 is a good device and built well. It is on the software side where things fall short. There's lots of people who don't like tinkering with devices and want them to be all but perfect upon buying them. And the Jxd S192 will not be to their liking. And even for the average tinkerer the Jxd S192's price at $300+ isn't I honestly feel worth it. Now priced $230-$260 yes the Jxd S192 serves its purpose as an all in one gaming tablet/handheld. And other than a Shield Tablet with an Ipega controller nothing else is close to or above the Jxd S192. I personally feel those of us who have this device must fore warn others if they aren't prepared to adjust the software in the Jxd S192 to wait until either Jxd themselves release an update that addresses all of the few minor issues or someone else releases a proven stable custom firmware/operating system.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 03, 2016, 01:24:54 am
LordDavon is right I'm going to have no choice but to do a two part review of the Jxd S192.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: leafar on June 03, 2016, 01:35:17 am
its not the firts and the last time that JXD has done something like that with a device, cross fingers,wait and for somebody to make a kernel or rom, you got a lot support from the shield tablet community in XDA developer hoping for someone to ported to this device,i will wait a little bit and good luck
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on June 03, 2016, 02:52:14 am
I'm here for the long haul... I might have to wait a bit longer for a stable update since im not comfortable with tinkering it at this point but it looks like someone will come up with something that will make it better than it is now.
 The positive side, we have a solid hardware that just needs proper programing to showcase its power.

What puzzles everyone, is how come a simple issue like the battery wasn't addressed??? over 6 months of delays and nothing? comes to show you that JXD wanted to get this out no matter the condition... The real tests are the customers who bought the device!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 03, 2016, 03:29:45 am
Suave6565 that's what I'm blown away by! The stability of the battery and it's software are some of the first priorities that should have been tested.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: mixwell on June 03, 2016, 09:09:35 am
Soo a bit of movement I can get into the bootloader menu on the pad. I'm not sure what this gets me though, I can't seem to select any options, it says press 'Home' to select but nothing works apart from going up and down the options.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: hexdump on June 03, 2016, 09:17:54 am
Well after using my unit yesterday I'm going to  post some hightlights:

1) Build quality is good. Not awesome, but pretty good.
2) Screen is awesome.
3) D-Pad is not bad but not the best. It is a bit soft and a bit hard to use in fighting games. It works pretty good in other game styles.
4) Analogs are good. A bit too loosy but good.
5) My friend had no problems with battery indicator but I'm stuck at 87%. I charged the s192 as soon as it came in without using it.
6) Now the things I really don't like:
-> With Mame, the are games that don't run smooth. As an example, Outrun reported speed is osciallating all time from 84 to 99% (Really bad feel).
-> Games like blacktinger, shinobi, etc... have a noticiable stuttering every 10 seconds, really annoying if you are a purist. We have tested these games on nvidia shield and they ran flawlesly.
-> We tried a Sinclair spectrum emulator called Spectacol and it works but a message like "Your device doesn't support low latency audio. There can be problems" pops up when emulator is ran. Again, really suprprised about this well known android problem.

So, s192 is a really nice console, but it has really ugly bugs at software level (I suppose the low latency issue can be fixed throuh software too).

Please JXD, release the fuc*ing rom source code to let us fix what you can't. If they do not do anything like that, I won't be buying another JXD product. Never, ever.

Cheers.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 03, 2016, 09:19:06 am
Not sure if this helps but on my phone I tap power button as enter key. May work same?try them all is what I say.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: mixwell on June 03, 2016, 10:05:06 am
Someone else with this power off hold down vol - and tap the power key and enter recovery see if you can get anything to work?

I've tried everything I think.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 03, 2016, 10:50:27 am
For those of you not wanting to root or mess with the build prop of your Jxd S192 Jxd have released a way for you to use the Nvidia Shield Hub.


JXD Official you can download the shield hub apk from here 006 SHIELD Hub_com.nvidia.tegrazone3_4.1.19385401_32283452

https://mega.nz/#F!Ewp2FQgD!_4ThgwYYR8oiwwl0mbsH6w



https://www.facebook.com/JXDofficial/photos/a.709104832465525.1073741827.705152146194127/1146306862078651/?type=3&comment_id=1149235608452443&notif_t=photo_reply&notif_id=1464938771587516
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 03, 2016, 11:10:37 am
I have no idea if Jxd's Shield Hub workaround works.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 03, 2016, 11:46:31 am
Well after using my unit yesterday I'm going to  post some hightlights:

1) Build quality is good. Not awesome, but pretty good.
2) Screen is awesome.
3) D-Pad is not bad but not the best. It is a bit soft and a bit hard to use in fighting games. It works pretty good in other game styles.
4) Analogs are good. A bit too loosy but good.
5) My friend had no problems with battery indicator but I'm stuck at 87%. I charged the s192 as soon as it came in without using it.
6) Now the things I really don't like:
-> With Mame, the are games that don't run smooth. As an example, Outrun reported speed is osciallating all time from 84 to 99% (Really bad feel).
-> Games like blacktinger, shinobi, etc... have a noticiable stuttering every 10 seconds, really annoying if you are a purist. We have tested these games on nvidia shield and they ran flawlesly.
-> We tried a Sinclair spectrum emulator called Spectacol and it works but a message like "Your device doesn't support low latency audio. There can be problems" pops up when emulator is ran. Again, really suprprised about this well known android problem.

So, s192 is a really nice console, but it has really ugly bugs at software level (I suppose the low latency issue can be fixed throuh software too).

Please JXD, release the fuc*ing rom source code to let us fix what you can't. If they do not do anything like that, I won't be buying another JXD product. Never, ever.

Cheers.

Thanks for your thoughts. the DPAD is a dealbreaker to me. I think I¡ll stick with shield tablet + ipega9023 (the dpad of the ipega is also quite terrible to be honest)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on June 03, 2016, 11:49:30 am
Can someone try JXD:s Shield Hub APK posted on Facebook to see if it works?
Not at home right now.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 03, 2016, 11:59:14 am
This review makes me sad, I play alot of mame and for simple games like shinobi not to work properly is baaad.. even my Samsung S5 plays it ok and s7800. I really really hope this is fixed with a setting change or I will be sending mine back, whenever it arrives. !!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 03, 2016, 12:05:11 pm
How are you checking the reported speed of outrun?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on June 03, 2016, 12:20:03 pm
This is not good with mame. I just got a usb drive with a ton of working roms with the latest mame build. I also bought a 200gb sd card for this purpose. Im thinking it could be the version of mame? It defeats the purpose why i purchased this unit in the first place. I haven't tried loading the roms yet to see if theres an issue.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 03, 2016, 12:20:07 pm
This is on my phone with frameskip zero. A solid 60fps

Your not using the happy shit Emu?

If your using mame4all or a derivative make sure you disable the battery save option as that will cause jitter to try and save some battery power.


(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160603/c3dbda07e77375540c9a4b95ce1f2a49.jpg)

Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 03, 2016, 12:21:11 pm
You can't play latest mame on it I'm afraid.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on June 03, 2016, 12:41:01 pm
Did the posted update-file from JXD also solve the Gamestream/Geforce NOW problem?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 03, 2016, 12:46:22 pm
I don't believe so as they would need to include a modified build.prop file.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: hexdump on June 03, 2016, 01:12:06 pm
This review makes me sad, I play alot of mame and for simple games like shinobi not to work properly is baaad.. even my Samsung S5 plays it ok and s7800. I really really hope this is fixed with a setting change or I will be sending mine back, whenever it arrives. !!
Not saying they are unplayable, just saying I want them perfect. And perfect means perfect scrolling too. Lota people won't notice that. I'm sure this is a software thing.

Cheers.
How are you checking the reported speed of outrun?

As @a7mag3ddon, I'm reporting it from the emulator stats.

This is on my phone with frameskip zero. A solid 60fps

Your not using the happy shit Emu?

If your using mame4all or a derivative make sure you disable the battery save option as that will cause jitter to try and save some battery power.


(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160603/c3dbda07e77375540c9a4b95ce1f2a49.jpg)



I have disabled the battery thing and it behaves the same. the weird thing is that at some point it stabilices at 100% :). Comeon JXD release the fucking sources :P

Cheers.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Mihos on June 03, 2016, 01:17:34 pm
I was thinking selling my q9PSV and perhaps getting one of this, but after seeing JXD attitude (not releasing whole firmeare or kernel) and seeing how some people are having issues with it (considering the few people that have one), I think I won't.

My main interest is firmware developing and kernel for it, but knowing JXd I don't think they provide anything (above all because they got angry when I leaked the 7800b source code) And 300 euros just for developing is just too much....

Let me bug them tonight and see if I can get it.  If I can, I will send it to you.  I'm planning on asking them to put a modified build.prop patch file in an update.zip anyway.

The USB driver they released last night works and contains the APX driver.  Fastboot doesn't report any devices, although I have seen that before and flashing a new boot rom still worked, in that one case at least.  Unfortunately, I don't have a bootloader to try and upload onto the device.  I wish they would just release everything instead of trickling it out.  If anyone gets a hold of a fastboot rom, I am ready to try that out.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on June 03, 2016, 01:19:19 pm
Hey Guys,

Has anyone had issues with the SD card. I noticed after I reboot the device, the SD card doesn't register the 200gb i installed this morning. It did this to me  at first and I was able to eject it and then the device started to display "preparing card" after that, I was able to format it and was able to get 183 gb. I restarted the device and no sd card registered. in order for it to display, I have to eject the card and reinsert again.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 03, 2016, 01:24:02 pm
Maybe it's too big? It only officially supports 128gb cards, but saying that the s7800 only supports 64 but 128 work fine in that.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 03, 2016, 01:27:10 pm
Does this jxd include prism or performance options in settings? In shield tablet i noticed that emus work better without prism. Or perhaps if this jxd is not in performance mode it has screen rate issues, because it's nlt normal that outrun plays bad. It runs full speed even in my old s7300
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 03, 2016, 01:28:29 pm
Wow Suave6565 I don't have this issue and I myself have a 200gb memory card. All I have to do is go to storage in settings and click/tap unmount and mount every time I restart or power off and on again.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 03, 2016, 01:36:57 pm
On a bright note HappyChick works pretty well on the S192. I haven't tested Retroarch yet as I honestly don't like Retroarch.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: mixwell on June 03, 2016, 01:38:46 pm
I was thinking selling my q9PSV and perhaps getting one of this, but after seeing JXD attitude (not releasing whole firmeare or kernel) and seeing how some people are having issues with it (considering the few people that have one), I think I won't.

My main interest is firmware developing and kernel for it, but knowing JXd I don't think they provide anything (above all because they got angry when I leaked the 7800b source code) And 300 euros just for developing is just too much....

Let me bug them tonight and see if I can get it.  If I can, I will send it to you.  I'm planning on asking them to put a modified build.prop patch file in an update.zip anyway.

The USB driver they released last night works and contains the APX driver.  Fastboot doesn't report any devices, although I have seen that before and flashing a new boot rom still worked, in that one case at least.  Unfortunately, I don't have a bootloader to try and upload onto the device.  I wish they would just release everything instead of trickling it out.  If anyone gets a hold of a fastboot rom, I am ready to try that out.

Have you got a link to the drivers? Would help my situation out a bit.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 03, 2016, 01:43:18 pm
Wow Suave6565 I don't have this issue and I myself have a 200gb memory card. All I have to do is go to storage in settings and click/tap unmount and mount every time I restart or power off and on again.

Well, not a great solution. It should mount it deirectly without issues. Perhaps formatting it fat32 works better? Fay32 works better in Android than EXFAT

@mixwell : they are here:
https://mega.nz/#F!Ewp2FQgD!_4ThgwYYR8oiwwl0mbsH6w

I suppose it's the file calle nvidia usb drivers, but probably they are just the same as Shield Family drivers of nvidia.

You may also need Minimal ADB and fastboot drivers:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317790

But unless JXD release something to be flashed, it's difficult to flash something via fastboot.....
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 03, 2016, 01:49:55 pm
Thank you Skelton! I'll give formatting the memory card a try. Drastic the Nintendo DS emulator runs perfectly. Even the cheats function.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Mihos on June 03, 2016, 02:01:17 pm
On a bright note HappyChick works pretty well on the S192. I haven't tested Retroarch yet as I honestly don't like Retroarch.

Retroarch is OK if it uses the same skin as the Shield devices (looks like a PS3 XMB).  The 'old' interface that you get on the GDP XD is pretty bad.

Hopefully I can get mine to turn on this weekend and get to the same level of testing you guys are at!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Mihos on June 03, 2016, 02:06:31 pm
I suppose it's the file calle nvidia usb drivers, but probably they are just the same as Shield Family drivers of nvidia.

You may also need Minimal ADB and fastboot drivers:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2317790

But unless JXD release something to be flashed, it's difficult to flash something via fastboot.....


It is the same drivers, you will need to reboot with driver signature enforcement turned off (requires a few reboots in windows 10) and then it will recognize is when you 'update driver' from device manager. 
So far, I have had no luck with Minimal ADB/Fastboot detecting the device, but like I said, I have had other devices actually flash even when it said there was nothing connected. 

I have a mail back to support, but after sending a detailed information, screenshots, etc... the only response I got back was :
"Please try to reset it first,thanks"

That was cut and pasted from the e-mail.... no shit.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: mixwell on June 03, 2016, 02:27:22 pm
Well those drivers worked and it now recognises apx mode.

Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 03, 2016, 02:28:17 pm
How very disappointing, funstock aren't getting the device for another 4 - 6 weeks depending on courier.

Arghhhh
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 03, 2016, 02:46:39 pm
On a bright note HappyChick works pretty well on the S192. I haven't tested Retroarch yet as I honestly don't like Retroarch.

Retroarch is OK if it uses the same skin as the Shield devices (looks like a PS3 XMB).  The 'old' interface that you get on the GDP XD is pretty bad.

Hopefully I can get mine to turn on this weekend and get to the same level of testing you guys are at!

You can change the interface in Retroarch in all devices. I use the xmb interface in the GPD_XD
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: hexdump on June 03, 2016, 03:01:47 pm
On a bright note HappyChick works pretty well on the S192. I haven't tested Retroarch yet as I honestly don't like Retroarch.

Retroarch is OK if it uses the same skin as the Shield devices (looks like a PS3 XMB).  The 'old' interface that you get on the GDP XD is pretty bad.

Hopefully I can get mine to turn on this weekend and get to the same level of testing you guys are at!

You can change the interface in Retroarch in all devices. I use the xmb interface in the GPD_XD

How do you do that? Haven't found the option ...

By the way, is there anyway to tell retroarch to search games per core in a folder?

Cheers
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on June 03, 2016, 03:14:52 pm
Hey Guys,

Has anyone had issues with the SD card. I noticed after I reboot the device, the SD card doesn't register the 200gb i installed this morning. It did this to me  at first and I was able to eject it and then the device started to display "preparing card" after that, I was able to format it and was able to get 183 gb. I restarted the device and no sd card registered. in order for it to display, I have to eject the card and reinsert again.

I had this issue.  I needed to put my card in my computer and scan it for errors.  After that, the card worked.  You can also try formatting the card as ExFAT in your computer or Fat32.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 03, 2016, 03:18:04 pm
On a bright note HappyChick works pretty well on the S192. I haven't tested Retroarch yet as I honestly don't like Retroarch.

Retroarch is OK if it uses the same skin as the Shield devices (looks like a PS3 XMB).  The 'old' interface that you get on the GDP XD is pretty bad.

Hopefully I can get mine to turn on this weekend and get to the same level of testing you guys are at!

You can change the interface in Retroarch in all devices. I use the xmb interface in the GPD_XD

How do you do that? Haven't found the option ...

By the way, is there anyway to tell retroarch to search games per core in a folder?

Cheers
There is option called menú driver, change it to xmb instead of glui and reboot retroarch and that's it. There is way to scan folders, not sure if per core, but i have never used it.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on June 03, 2016, 03:18:53 pm
For those of you not wanting to root or mess with the build prop of your Jxd S192 Jxd have released a way for you to use the Nvidia Shield Hub.


JXD Official you can download the shield hub apk from here 006 SHIELD Hub_com.nvidia.tegrazone3_4.1.19385401_32283452

https://mega.nz/#F!Ewp2FQgD!_4ThgwYYR8oiwwl0mbsH6w



https://www.facebook.com/JXDofficial/photos/a.709104832465525.1073741827.705152146194127/1146306862078651/?type=3&comment_id=1149235608452443&notif_t=photo_reply&notif_id=1464938771587516

It is version 4.1 from March of 2015.  4.11 is the latest and contains many fixes.  Not sure why they went to a very old version, but maybe that was before Nvidia added the Shield checks.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Zailin17 on June 03, 2016, 05:57:12 pm
Hey

Incase someone still wants buy the jxd, geekbuying just put a 50 dollar off coupon: JXDSingularityS192. I didn't want to buy it due to the issues to price ratio but maybe someone can reconsider.

:)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 03, 2016, 06:50:59 pm
I think JXD should say in the specs it has a retina'ish panel as saying it's a retina display is misleading with the shorty refresh rate it has.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on June 03, 2016, 07:52:27 pm
Hey

Incase someone still wants buy the jxd, geekbuying just put a 50 dollar off coupon: JXDSingularityS192. I didn't want to buy it due to the issues to price ratio but maybe someone can reconsider.

:)

I still think it is overpriced.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Mihos on June 03, 2016, 08:15:10 pm
i might have to break the damn QA seal open it and try to take the battery out and back if that the last result that would fix this thing because regardless this thing is as good as dead anyways sitting back in its box because it doesn't work  >:(

It is actually 2 batteries.... and no, unplugging them doesn't work on the yellow light issue unfortunately.

Fastboot won't detect the device, so barring some last minute breakthrough, I see an RMA in the future.  I will probably ask PayPal to start the refund process, since I doubt I will get anywhere with "support" directly.   I like the way the device feels in my hands, maybe I will give it another go after I get back from travel.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on June 03, 2016, 08:32:18 pm
I see there is a lot of negativity surrounding this device. And yes, while it lacks a lot directly out of the box, it pays off after everything is said and done. Of course it shouldn´t have been this, but JXD had a lot of pressure from buyers in the end, in getting the device out on the market. We can all come together on the fact that the release was not good.

BUT here I am now, updated with JXD:s update and Shield Hub. I have no more battery problems and I am playing my favourite Nvidia games and enjoying it to the fullest. I am so satisfied with the s192, and it is now doing exactly what I wanted it to do. Hell, earlier today I was playing Witcher 3 under the parasol! =)

I will check in here now and then, if I need future support. You are all great people with a lot of valuable knowledge.
It was a great ride up to the release, and I enjoyed how we all discussed before we got the thing in our hands.

Thanks for everything! And good luck in your future endeavours with your tech-stuff!

SiliconMessiah
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: ClawShrimp on June 04, 2016, 01:13:47 am
I didn't spring for DHL, and I'm thankful. Hopefully in the three or so weeks it takes to arrive, some of these issues will be resolved.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on June 04, 2016, 03:45:49 am
Talking with JXD now.  He is asking their engineers for the kernel sources.  As well, I am walking them through the changes, so they know how to get the latest Shield Hub working.  He seems to really be listening, and it is giving me hope that maybe we will get a build.prop update.zip, a full update, and the kernel sources.

I am going to try and get my JXD working ADB in recovery this weekend, so we can get a fix for those with bad build.prop changes.  I'm hoping that there is a simple fix.

Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: mixwell on June 04, 2016, 07:58:02 am
Talking with JXD now.  He is asking their engineers for the kernel sources.  As well, I am walking them through the changes, so they know how to get the latest Shield Hub working.  He seems to really be listening, and it is giving me hope that maybe we will get a build.prop update.zip, a full update, and the kernel sources.

I am going to try and get my JXD working ADB in recovery this weekend, so we can get a fix for those with bad build.prop changes.  I'm hoping that there is a simple fix.

A flashing program for apx mode would be ideal :)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 04, 2016, 10:08:38 am
It seems they have released a full firmware to restore biricked devices:
http://www.jxd.hk/questions/question/s192-firmware-and-tools-_v1-4_20160509/
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 04, 2016, 10:52:25 am
Thats cool i just extracted the main rar and its the full complete firmware inside. Just mounting some of the images now to take a further look.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 04, 2016, 12:14:59 pm
Mihos can you confirm from opening up the Jxd S192 that we truly have 10,000mah of battery capacity? Because every time I have ran a battery recalibration app or tester I get either a reading of 6,750mah or a reading like I just got using Battery Monitor Widget which shows 5,872/6,750mah.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 04, 2016, 12:16:34 pm
That will be the same as on most tablets, made up of 2 smaller batteries in series. I have a Samsung 10.1 like that.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Mihos on June 04, 2016, 01:01:51 pm
Mihos can you confirm from opening up the Jxd S192 that we truly have 10,000mah of battery capacity? Because every time I have ran a battery recalibration app or tester I get either a reading of 6,750mah or a reading like I just got using Battery Monitor Widget which shows 5,872/6,750mah.

There are 2, 5000mah batteries, one on each side.  For my no boot issues, I tried running off one and then the other. Which looks like it should work, but my unit doesn't power on all the way to tell for sure.  I have a pretty much ideal environment to disassemble/reassemble these things with no evidence to any warranty, but this things is snapped together very well and without the proper tools would be easy to break... just fare warning :).  If I open it again, I will grab a picture or two for the curious.  I didn't take the mainboard out, just removed the backing to try the battery disconnect.

I am really hoping the kernel package includes the bootrom.  Although the APX drivers work, fastboot does not see any devices when run, so honestly it is just up to chance on if having the full package will help me at all.  I will try what they provided in a few minutes.

Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 04, 2016, 01:05:30 pm
It does include the boot rom, provided you can get it detected on a pc in recovery you should be able to flash it.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Mihos on June 04, 2016, 01:31:02 pm
I am getting a NvError 0x120002

I may be able to work with this, but the default command in the batch file isn't working.  I will try a few things.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 04, 2016, 01:39:50 pm
Heres a list of error codes which may help.

https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/831539/embedded-systems/now-unable-to-flash-jetson-tk1/post/4528073/#4528073

Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Mihos on June 04, 2016, 02:31:48 pm
I don't think I am going to be able to bring this back.  It is looking like a haradware failure at this point.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on June 04, 2016, 02:48:49 pm
I just got this via FB this morning, "good news , i will open the source code for you, but software engineer need some time to ready the code and upload to mega storage. the files is too big".  Custom ROMs will be coming.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 04, 2016, 03:08:59 pm
Well, it seems jxd is learning from gpd... good point for the people that want to develop something for it.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: hexdump on June 04, 2016, 03:52:45 pm
Mihos can you confirm from opening up the Jxd S192 that we truly have 10,000mah of battery capacity? Because every time I have ran a battery recalibration app or tester I get either a reading of 6,750mah or a reading like I just got using Battery Monitor Widget which shows 5,872/6,750mah.

http://imageshack.com/a/img922/3091/DoyXRw.jpg

Cheers.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: mixwell on June 04, 2016, 04:20:58 pm
Mines alive again! :)

It has come with a warning from my wife though - Don't go doing something stupid again.


Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 04, 2016, 04:21:17 pm
Thank you very much everyone for confirming that the Jxd S192 does indeed have 10,000mah of batteries.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 04, 2016, 04:33:31 pm
I just got this via FB this morning, "good news , i will open the source code for you, but software engineer need some time to ready the code and upload to mega storage. the files is too big".  Custom ROMs will be coming.
What can be done with custom ROMs. I mean I'm all up for having genuine useful stuff added like with the s7800 which allowed SD storage to swap with internal storage.

Would the release of the source allow the drivers and code to be used to make a v5.0 of android for JXD S192? This would allow adoptable storage at least ;-)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on June 04, 2016, 04:50:46 pm
What can be done with custom ROMs. I mean I'm all up for having genuine useful stuff added like with the s7800 which allowed SD storage to swap with internal storage.

Would the release of the source allow the drivers and code to be used to make a v5.0 of android for JXD S192? This would allow adoptable storage at least ;-)

Anything can be done, really.  As long as we can get it working.  Updating the OS version is one thing, custom ROMs with built in Shield spoofing, overclocking, SD storage, etc.  JXD has been responsive.  This is very positive.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 04, 2016, 05:26:29 pm
Making SWAP is not so easy, also nvidia SDK is usually against it. As for increasing Android version, if it's like in shield tablet it depends on the bootloader, which usually is different in diferent android versions. (you cannot flash an android 6.0 ROM with an android 4.4. bootloader for example, at least on the shield).

Anyhow, we'll se how many devs appear. The GPD X_D was very much sold and very popular, and even with sources only me was the only brave to make development for it.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 04, 2016, 05:34:43 pm
The only bad thing for me is that 4.x android has no SWAP or even a fake folder to SD app (they don't work)

5.0 does have adoptable and of course 6 is the latest and greatest. At least with s192 it has 32gb onboard, with my phone I ran out if space within 3 days even though all my roms are on the SD.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 04, 2016, 06:08:04 pm
You can just root and use Folder Mount to move games to SD. Very simple to use.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 04, 2016, 06:09:35 pm
Sadly it doesnt work on 4.4 and upwards. I've had kit kat for 2 years now and never found a way round it. Which is why I was very dissapointed with JXD releasing on such an old version.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: mixwell on June 04, 2016, 06:14:08 pm
There is an exposed module that works great.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 04, 2016, 06:15:15 pm
What's it called? I will try anything. I have exposed installed.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Mihos on June 04, 2016, 06:33:47 pm
What can be done with custom ROMs. I mean I'm all up for having genuine useful stuff added like with the s7800 which allowed SD storage to swap with internal storage.

Would the release of the source allow the drivers and code to be used to make a v5.0 of android for JXD S192? This would allow adoptable storage at least ;-)

Anything can be done, really.  As long as we can get it working.  Updating the OS version is one thing, custom ROMs with built in Shield spoofing, overclocking, SD storage, etc.  JXD has been responsive.  This is very positive.

This is actually great, hopefully I can get my unit swapped out quickly.  I may just source one locally since it will available on Amazon Prime next week and send the defective back on the slow boat for a refund.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 04, 2016, 06:35:33 pm
Sadly it doesnt work on 4.4 and upwards. I've had kit kat for 2 years now and never found a way round it. Which is why I was very dissapointed with JXD releasing on such an old version.

Folder mount works perfect in android 4.4. i use it in my gpd and in a phone with android 5.1.1
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 04, 2016, 06:38:27 pm
I'm just restoring my phone now with titanium after an uograde to 5.0 I'll give it another try. Perhaps it didn't work with tom tom when I tried and that's why I gave up.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 04, 2016, 06:39:03 pm
I couldnt get exposed working said it wasn't compatible.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: mixwell on June 04, 2016, 08:31:09 pm
It was app2sd.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on June 05, 2016, 12:43:00 am
Can someone explain how to run the update that JXD made available recently for the shield now on their Facebook page? or should I wait for somthing that's a bit updated. I've already tried the battery update and its working perfectly now..
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on June 05, 2016, 03:57:46 am
I have to admit, I was just amazed by the S192.  I installed FFIX, and once you kick it off, it transfers data.  On the GPD XD, this process took almost 8 minutes.  On the S192, it took about 25 seconds.  That tells me that they didn't use cheap internals, as I had expected.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: failrunner on June 05, 2016, 07:06:28 am
The only bad thing for me is that 4.x android has no SWAP or even a fake folder to SD app (they don't work)

5.0 does have adoptable and of course 6 is the latest and greatest. At least with s192 it has 32gb onboard, with my phone I ran out if space within 3 days even though all my roms are on the SD.
6.0 has adoptaple storage. You still have to use foldermount on 5.0.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 05, 2016, 10:42:34 am
What about screen refresh rate? I have read i n spanish forum that emulation is terrible without frameskipping with broglia emus and retroarch. Some stuttery in scrolling and high latency audio. oAn?Any good test about that? For example running ra with threaded vídeo off and vsync to see how it goes. My main use is emulation, so that's the most importante thing to me.
Another cuestión, device has it's own mapper, is it similar to old jxd mappers or it's like the one on NVIDIA.....

Any news on source code? I extractes the firmware quiite easily so a custom rom shouldn't be difficult flashing it vía nvflash like the one they released, but source is needed to add more things

Lord davon, in mi gpd xd ff ix just takes 1 minute to transfer data, it's not normal to take 8 like in yours. In fact gpd xd uses a quite fast emmc and not a standard nand flash.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 05, 2016, 01:08:00 pm
What about screen refresh rate? I have read i n spanish forum that emulation is terrible without frameskipping with broglia emus and retroarch. Some stuttery in scrolling and high latency audio. oAn?Any good test about that? For example running ra with threaded vídeo off and vsync to see how it goes. My main use is emulation, so that's the most importante thing to me.
Another cuestión, device has it's own mapper, is it similar to old jxd mappers or it's like the one on NVIDIA.....

Any news on source code? I extractes the firmware quiite easily so a custom rom shouldn't be difficult flashing it vía nvflash like the one they released, but source is needed to add more things

Lord davon, in mi gpd xd ff ix just takes 1 minute to transfer data, it's not normal to take 8 like in yours. In fact gpd xd uses a quite fast emmc and not a standard nand flash.
My main use is also emulation. If that doesnt work properly then sadly that's a major blow for me, talk above said even mame has problems with basic games.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 06, 2016, 12:02:03 pm
JXd promised me te leak me the code in the following days, they want to make a good firmware but they don't offer a testing device. They are hilarious.....

Anyway , If they leak me the code I'll post it in my guthub so anyone can use it for making kernels or whatever....
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 06, 2016, 12:11:58 pm
Well whilst not ideal, it does offer promise and future development to iron out the bugs, and better than the last device :-d
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 06, 2016, 12:17:17 pm
Well whilst not ideal, it does offer promise and future development to iron out the bugs, and better than the last device :-d

In their last device they leaked it too. (Well, I did)-

http://boards.dingoonity.org/jxd-devices/full-sdk-for-jxd-7300c-and-7800b-(rk3188-sdk)-leaked/

Though Lujji could make a kernel thanks to my GPD G7 kernel rather than the JXD one xDD.

It's good to have the source, but unfortunately these devices are quite niche, and not too much people develop for it, just take a look to previous JXD devices or GPDs and you will see there are no great interest, or qualified people....



Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 06, 2016, 12:20:38 pm
Yeah true, I managed to get a new firmware for mine, the webclaw I believe it was, I only ever put the one on as it had the feature I was looking for which was the SD swap thing.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: xmcnuggetx on June 06, 2016, 12:46:11 pm
Well... I went ahead and reordered the S192.  I had preordered November last year and cancelled with it being pushed back several times.  I explained the situation to JXD and that I was still excited for the device and they sent me a 64$ coupon code (took a few emails back and forth before it worked).  So I got it for a similar price to when it was first offered.  As of this morning I have a tracking number with a status of "sent to processing center."
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: hexdump on June 06, 2016, 02:40:16 pm
To anyone interested in inproving the d-pad: Ps2 d-pad nad Ps4 dpads work awesome with s192 :). I know have the definitive machine for retro gamming (Well no, I need this screen refresh problems fixed :P).

Cheers!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: JXDliker on June 06, 2016, 11:12:27 pm
Guys, that is so suprising news from Computex 2016! http://www.ubergizmo.com/2016/06/nvidia-not-interested-smartphones-soc/ (http://www.ubergizmo.com/2016/06/nvidia-not-interested-smartphones-soc/)
Sooo, what do you think about such conspirency theory? :
Nvidia discarded idea about portable consoles BEFORE jxd s192 anounce and sells tegra to JXD because of Nvidia doesn`t see future for Shield 2, or something like that! It was planned long before that mobile gaming(except smartphones ofcause) will fade away and new shields and psp and nds(nintendo aready developes games for phones).... and steamboy will never apeare! That is so sad. So.... maybe this one, last of a kind, or so close to last one, jxd s192 will be so actual in future years coz of luck of concurents! We are on the edge of death of portable console gaming I quess... And its so cold here  :(


And one more thing: why, no... WHY product date here is june 2015, I have 2016 on the left bottom corner of my pc screen... are that batteries sooooooooo old. One year can realy damage them.
(http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img922/3091/DoyXRw.jpg)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: vcoleiro1 on June 07, 2016, 04:19:40 am
Nvidia have been saying they want to get out of the mobile SOC business for years. Seeing since their Tegra SOCs have had less and less up take with each generation, for example - the Tegra X1 got into one third party product, the Pixel C. I don't think they have a choice but to get out.

 
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 07, 2016, 07:34:25 am
Those batteries were probably used in other JXD devices and they are tyring to use them up.

With regards to Nvidia and mobile, its not surprising really, the mobile chip market is a different beast to PC, power and efficiency are key and perhaps they can no longer make their chips use less power whilst still being better than the previous generation.

IF there was profit in the market you can guarantee they would be there.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: JXDliker on June 07, 2016, 09:42:22 am
I am agree, but I thought that with tegra x1 they will rise again and new shied will be my supermega favorite device for years. And I would be able to play pc games developed till 2005-2007 without problems. But now I realy guess that s192 is almost last such thing. That is that I am about, maybe I am wrong and within this year we will see something better? What do you think?

Or maybe it is time to spend 339 dollars for that one?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on June 07, 2016, 12:39:13 pm
I hate to be blunt but its like wiping your a $$ before taking a sh#t. Sounds like theres nothing really set in stone; its all speculation at this point. Theres still a market for these retro andriod games and people are still willing to get better devices to get the ultimate experience. Remember, everyone was talking about the s7800b was the last gaming device that jxd had developed. I dont know who started that rumor, but they sounded pretty sure about it then shortly afterwards, we get the s192.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 07, 2016, 12:50:55 pm
It was not a rumour. Jxd decided stop developing android consolas after softwin company sued them (company that it's known as gpd now). The own jxd talked about that to resellers. If after two years theyndecided to go back to business, it's ok. But when some people told that jxd stopped business in android consolas it wasn't a lie
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: vcoleiro1 on June 07, 2016, 01:00:25 pm
It was not a rumour. Jxd decided stop developing android consolas after softwin company sued them (company that it's known as gpd now). The own jxd talked about that to resellers. If after two years theyndecided to go back to business, it's ok. But when some people told that jxd stopped business in android consolas it wasn't a lie

Skelton, do you know why Softwin sued them?

Also, is it true that GPD is comprised of JXD staff that broke away to start their on company(Softwin)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Mihos on June 07, 2016, 01:41:51 pm
I am agree, but I thought that with tegra x1 they will rise again and new shied will be my supermega favorite device for years. And I would be able to play pc games developed till 2005-2007 without problems. But now I realy guess that s192 is almost last such thing. That is that I am about, maybe I am wrong and within this year we will see something better? What do you think?

Or maybe it is time to spend 339 dollars for that one?

There will always be the 'next' device.  It may remain 'niche', and the prices may rise and the company names may change, but there will never be an end.  We haven't even seen a good PS2 emulation device yet.

I am also looking forward to the ZX Spectrum handheld and hoping the GPD WIN device doesn't suck.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 07, 2016, 01:44:03 pm
It was not a rumour. Jxd decided stop developing android consolas after softwin company sued them (company that it's known as gpd now). The own jxd talked about that to resellers. If after two years theyndecided to go back to business, it's ok. But when some people told that jxd stopped business in android consolas it wasn't a lie

Skelton, do you know why Softwin sued them?

Also, is it true that GPD is comprised of JXD staff that broke away to start their on company(Softwin)

softwin was just an OEM company, though they worked for JXd mainly. they made firmwares for them and also some OEM devices that JXD just rebranded (and some other russian companies). As far as I know, they sued JXD because JXD didn't accomplish a contract they have signed abour the 7800B, but I don't know the details. They changed their name to GPD when they decided to sell directly their own stuff,
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: vcoleiro1 on June 07, 2016, 02:00:29 pm
It was not a rumour. Jxd decided stop developing android consolas after softwin company sued them (company that it's known as gpd now). The own jxd talked about that to resellers. If after two years theyndecided to go back to business, it's ok. But when some people told that jxd stopped business in android consolas it wasn't a lie

Skelton, do you know why Softwin sued them?

Also, is it true that GPD is comprised of JXD staff that broke away to start their on company(Softwin)

softwin was just an OEM company, though they worked for JXd mainly. they made firmwares for them and also some OEM devices that JXD just rebranded (and some other russian companies). As far as I know, they sued JXD because JXD didn't accomplish a contract they have signed abour the 7800B, but I don't know the details. They changed their name to GPD when they decided to sell directly their own stuff,

Thanks for that, that's very interesting to know the history
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Mihos on June 07, 2016, 07:21:06 pm
received a second s192, this one actually works.  Now I can join in on all the fun finally!

Still have to RMA the defective, they had me run a memory diagnostics on it from APX, which of course failed.

target_stdout: Found 3780271 memory errors. Channel 0: 1900544, Channel 1: 1879727
target_stdout:   ... Stopping showing detail info after 10 errors
target_stdout:   Use -ec <count> to control count of error output
target_stdout: [total result, bit0, 1, 2, 3, .....63]
target_stdout: [1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,]
target_stdout: AP: Fail: Byte3 = 0x00000001 Byte2 = 0x00000001 Byte1 = 0x00000001 Byte0 = 0x00000001
target_stdout: ------- End: sanity in Register based mode
target_stdout: Error happened!!!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: eragon2890 on June 07, 2016, 09:55:46 pm
received a second s192, this one actually works.  Now I can join in on all the fun finally!

Still have to RMA the defective, they had me run a memory diagnostics on it from APX, which of course failed.

target_stdout: Found 3780271 memory errors. Channel 0: 1900544, Channel 1: 1879727
target_stdout:   ... Stopping showing detail info after 10 errors
target_stdout:   Use -ec <count> to control count of error output
target_stdout: [total result, bit0, 1, 2, 3, .....63]
target_stdout: [1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,]
target_stdout: AP: Fail: Byte3 = 0x00000001 Byte2 = 0x00000001 Byte1 = 0x00000001 Byte0 = 0x00000001
target_stdout: ------- End: sanity in Register based mode
target_stdout: Error happened!!!

Did you buy a second one, or got one for free under warranty? If so it's good service - must Chinese companies won't send replacement untill they receive the old one, so in that case I would be interested knowing where you bought it. JXD themselves?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 07, 2016, 09:59:45 pm
He bought a new one.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: wangkiller on June 08, 2016, 06:43:56 am
Dear fellow gamers,

First of all, a hello to all of you here. I have read this post and thread  throughout as i was really wow-ed by this s192 weeks after i got my gpd g7a. I m now saving up to buy this s192 but have quite a few questions to clarity as i m not an android or IT expert like all of you here. Must really shout it out to you guys that you guys are really awesome pioneers that help many people like me to decide if this device is for me! THANK YOU in advance =)

1) I have read a problem on the battery issue. And some of you actually solved the problem using 3rd party apps (to calibrate) and further on i saw some of you saying JXD came out with some updates.. My question is does this updates help? Or we must use a 3rd party app, which i hate..

2) The shield hub (i cant recall the name) has access problems and i saw some video reviews also saying that many android on the playstore shows a "not compatible with this device" problem. My question is does the JXD latest updates solves these problem (if there is actually any updates available)? or again we need some other methods?

3) This is not a question. I asked JXD that will they come out with a new batch of s192 with these necessary updates installed to fix the bugs. Will upload my convo here later.. in case any potential buyers are interested to know.


Thanks!!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 08, 2016, 07:04:07 am

Firstly i wouldn't believe what anyone at JXD says. They tell you what they think you want to hear.  :(
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: wangkiller on June 08, 2016, 07:07:37 am
Oh my.. I m too new to all these. Have you got hold of one of these itself? Do you think its good??
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 08, 2016, 07:20:44 am
not yet, even though i was one of the first to pre order seems mine is on a slow boat from china  >:(
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 08, 2016, 10:58:34 am
I hope a new batch doesn't mean new software, because that means two different firmwares depending on the batch.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: JXDliker on June 08, 2016, 11:13:49 am
There will always be the 'next' device.  It may remain 'niche', and the prices may rise and the company names may change, but there will never be an end.  We haven't even seen a good PS2 emulation device yet.
I think not, because they need more many do create more interesting NEW device, and if they will try to sell us almost same device again... we just wont buy it. I think it is real - to see the end of portable emulation market. I agree that there will be niche very long time (untill we all die, all who realy like old games - games of our childhood) but realy new devices expecily ones to emulate PS2... hmmmm I am pretty unsure. Its sad, but they need big money to create new ones, s192 already costs 339!!! It is so unbealevable for me coz I started to buy china portable handleds more that 5 years ago and I got more than 12 different ones. And their cost was sooo ower than that.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: ClawShrimp on June 08, 2016, 11:57:07 am
I hope a new batch doesn't mean new software, because that means two different firmwares depending on the batch.

That would be a terrible decision; and completely plausible from JXD.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on June 08, 2016, 01:45:55 pm
If its true with a new batch, Would they be calling it the the s192B or does that depend if they have to make adjustments to the hardware to be considered s192B?

If its a firmware update, then it wouldn't be as easy to just apply the update when they release it?? I can see it being a problem if it were custom
Dear fellow gamers,

First of all, a hello to all of you here. I have read this post and thread  throughout as i was really wow-ed by this s192 weeks after i got my gpd g7a. I m now saving up to buy this s192 but have quite a few questions to clarity as i m not an android or IT expert like all of you here. Must really shout it out to you guys that you guys are really awesome pioneers that help many people like me to decide if this device is for me! THANK YOU in advance =)

1) I have read a problem on the battery issue. And some of you actually solved the problem using 3rd party apps (to calibrate) and further on i saw some of you saying JXD came out with some updates.. My question is does this updates help? Or we must use a 3rd party app, which i hate..

2) The shield hub (i cant recall the name) has access problems and i saw some video reviews also saying that many android on the playstore shows a "not compatible with this device" problem. My question is does the JXD latest updates solves these problem (if there is actually any updates available)? or again we need some other methods?

3) This is not a question. I asked JXD that will they come out with a new batch of s192 with these necessary updates installed to fix the bugs. Will upload my convo here later.. in case any potential buyers are interested to know.


Thanks!!

Wangkiller... I fall into the same group as you... I can dabble on the simple stuff but these guys take it to the next level here and i'm highly appreciative for their knowledge here. Everyday I learn something new. I purchased the GPD XD red, JXD s7800B and now I own the s192. Its a definate improvement from the others. The battery issues was resolved with a update that JXD had posted on their facebook page after someone from here had complained along with several others. The third party software didn't really resolve the issue for many who received their device shortly after its release. I got mine a week later and by that time, Elronza, a member of this site had posted his convo with JXD that included the link to the battery fix. I think at this point, JXD is taking all of our complaint issues in order to address at some obvious issues on their first official update.  I cant tell you on the shield now update since it was an a hack that was done by someone here and I think afterwards JXD released another update...I didn't apply this update myself because im not too confident in apply...nor do I know how to do so.. I have the files but im afraid of bricking my unit. For the meantime, ill wait for some thing office from them.. im not in no rush... I have waaay too many devices to keep me busy.I Play simple retro mame arcade games and on occasion andriod games. I think once JXD gets many of the things resolved, I can see myself exploring other games.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on June 08, 2016, 01:59:53 pm
For your interest:

JXD has today released a new update.zip. It fixes the Shield Hub to work without rooting & editing the build.prop.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: hexdump on June 08, 2016, 02:14:36 pm
For your interest:

JXD has today released a new update.zip. It fixes the Shield Hub to work without rooting & editing the build.prop.
Is these a new one? Where did they release it?

Cheers.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 08, 2016, 02:28:54 pm
new way to get the “shield hub”

https://mega.nz/#F!8oZ22KgY!b8EGJS8TYz741aR7Q1Cbmw BM

update_add_shieldhub

 

step:

1\download  the file “update.zip”

2\copy the update.zip to the S192 root directory,

3\Remove the USB cable and reboot the S192

4\boot you S192, it will auto upgrade

finally ,it’s will add a new app icon “shield hub” in your launcher
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: hexdump on June 08, 2016, 02:30:32 pm
Thanks for that.

How did you get notified about it?

Cheers.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 08, 2016, 02:31:22 pm
No worries, I'm collecting every file they offer for when mine arrives.

Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: hexdump on June 08, 2016, 02:38:16 pm
No worries, I'm collecting every file they offer for when mine arrives.

So, this was something released some days ago. It is not a new release from them.

Cheers.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on June 08, 2016, 02:40:12 pm
It is a NEW released update.zip wich includes the Shield hub/Geforce NOW/Gamestream.

It was released just hours ago on their Facebook.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 08, 2016, 02:49:29 pm
No worries, I'm collecting every file they offer for when mine arrives.

So, this was something released some days ago. It is not a new release from them.

Cheers.
Said 2 hrs ago on the post?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 08, 2016, 02:54:03 pm
Here's there folder where ALL their stuff is kept.

https://mega.nz/#F!Ewp2FQgD!_4ThgwYYR8oiwwl0mbsH6w
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on June 08, 2016, 03:38:46 pm
They told me that the sources are ready, but at 5GB, they are taking a while to upload.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 08, 2016, 04:25:30 pm
They told me that the sources are ready, but at 5GB, they are taking a while to upload.

Yep, because it's the full SDK, not only the kernel
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 08, 2016, 04:33:57 pm
For the love of all things holy.... please tell me we can get a newer android version using this?

Ps I can share the source on a couple of sites if needed.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 08, 2016, 04:39:05 pm
As I mentioned before, unless it includes for bootloader for LP and MM it's not possible, Nvidia uses a different bootloader according to the Android version. Unless it's that way in the nvidia shield tablet.

I am more interested in seeing how many devs will make something with the code, if it appears any..... Also, I hope it includes datasheet of the LCD, because if not fixing the screen refrsh rate problem is problematic (only way is calculating by trial and error).

Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on June 08, 2016, 04:49:39 pm
For anyone interested I can confirm the following:

* At first just applying the new "update.zip" I got a dead Android with a red triangle. Thought I was screwed.

* By RE-FLASHING the original firmware supplied by JXD and THEN applying the new "update.zip", I now have full access to the Shield Hub/Geforce NOW/Gamestream by just starting up the device.

Nothing else needed to do by the user.

Clockwork!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: hexdump on June 08, 2016, 04:58:39 pm
After playing a bit with the device, I have been able to play Outrun at full speed just settting Settings -> Save Energy ->Procesor -> To Maximize performance.

:), Just need to check now how battery is affected.

CHeers.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on June 08, 2016, 05:16:14 pm
For anyone interested I can confirm the following:

* At first just applying the new "update.zip" I got a dead Android with a red triangle. Thought I was screwed.

* By RE-FLASHING the original firmware supplied by JXD and THEN applying the new "update.zip", I now have full access to the Shield Hub/Geforce NOW/Gamestream by just starting up the device.

Nothing else needed to do by the user.

Clockwork!

Do me a favor.  Can you post your build.prop?  I sent them all the changes needed (full step-by-step), but I suspect that they hacked the Shield Hub.  That means that you can't just update Shield Hub when new versions are released.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on June 08, 2016, 05:29:00 pm
For anyone interested I can confirm the following:

* At first just applying the new "update.zip" I got a dead Android with a red triangle. Thought I was screwed.

* By RE-FLASHING the original firmware supplied by JXD and THEN applying the new "update.zip", I now have full access to the Shield Hub/Geforce NOW/Gamestream by just starting up the device.

Nothing else needed to do by the user.

Clockwork!

Do me a favor.  Can you post your build.prop?  I sent them all the changes needed (full step-by-step), but I suspect that they hacked the Shield Hub.  That means that you can't just update Shield Hub when new versions are released.

I would love to, but I am in a bit of a tangle right now. I have limited access to wifi and all my stuff like the computer in boxes due to a move. I am currently not even at home. I would suggest someone else to do that.

EDIT: At least it seems to be the latest Shield Hub. And it seems to be able to update from inside the app.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 08, 2016, 05:45:36 pm
@LordDavon , did JXD tell you something about making source code public or just leaked to some people? I know that they will give it to me too, but I don't know if I can make it public like with GPD devices or not. I have no problems giving the link to someone in any case, because I cannot use the code unfortunately. (I can help from the distance though in case someone needs some assitsance)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on June 08, 2016, 05:49:57 pm
@LordDavon , did JXD tell you something about making source code public or just leaked to some people? I know that they will give it to me too, but I don't know if I can make it public like with GPD devices or not. I have no problems giving the link to someone in any case, because I cannot use the code unfortunately. (I can help from the distance though in case someone needs some assitsance)

Your helping me!  ;-)  Anyway, they didn't specify.  But, I think they are okay with it.  I will get clarification though.  I told them I would mirror it, which is why I think it is okay.  If it is too big on the public mirrors, and they okay it, I will mirror it on andLinux.org.  The project is basically dead these days anyway.

Shoot me an email on LordDavon at gmail, and I will email you as soon as I know.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 08, 2016, 05:55:34 pm
@LordDavon , did JXD tell you something about making source code public or just leaked to some people? I know that they will give it to me too, but I don't know if I can make it public like with GPD devices or not. I have no problems giving the link to someone in any case, because I cannot use the code unfortunately. (I can help from the distance though in case someone needs some assitsance)

Your helping me!  ;-)  Anyway, they didn't specify.  But, I think they are okay with it.  I will get clarification though.  I told them I would mirror it, which is why I think it is okay.  If it is too big on the public mirrors, and they okay it, I will mirror it on andLinux.org.  The project is basically dead these days anyway.

Shoot me an email on LordDavon at gmail, and I will email you as soon as I know.

Sure, mine is skelton25@gmail.com

Feel free to contact me. I can answer a bit late (I will be at the hospital some days for treatment), but If I can help somehow let me know. I have seen lots of repos for shield tablet kernel etc at github, so at least there is some reference to look at....

Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: wangkiller on June 09, 2016, 07:51:54 am
If its true with a new batch, Would they be calling it the the s192B or does that depend if they have to make adjustments to the hardware to be considered s192B?

If its a firmware update, then it wouldn't be as easy to just apply the update when they release it?? I can see it being a problem if it were custom
Dear fellow gamers,

First of all, a hello to all of you here. I have read this post and thread  throughout as i was really wow-ed by this s192 weeks after i got my gpd g7a. I m now saving up to buy this s192 but have quite a few questions to clarity as i m not an android or IT expert like all of you here. Must really shout it out to you guys that you guys are really awesome pioneers that help many people like me to decide if this device is for me! THANK YOU in advance =)

1) I have read a problem on the battery issue. And some of you actually solved the problem using 3rd party apps (to calibrate) and further on i saw some of you saying JXD came out with some updates.. My question is does this updates help? Or we must use a 3rd party app, which i hate..

2) The shield hub (i cant recall the name) has access problems and i saw some video reviews also saying that many android on the playstore shows a "not compatible with this device" problem. My question is does the JXD latest updates solves these problem (if there is actually any updates available)? or again we need some other methods?

3) This is not a question. I asked JXD that will they come out with a new batch of s192 with these necessary updates installed to fix the bugs. Will upload my convo here later.. in case any potential buyers are interested to know.


Thanks!!

Wangkiller... I fall into the same group as you... I can dabble on the simple stuff but these guys take it to the next level here and i'm highly appreciative for their knowledge here. Everyday I learn something new. I purchased the GPD XD red, JXD s7800B and now I own the s192. Its a definate improvement from the others. The battery issues was resolved with a update that JXD had posted on their facebook page after someone from here had complained along with several others. The third party software didn't really resolve the issue for many who received their device shortly after its release. I got mine a week later and by that time, Elronza, a member of this site had posted his convo with JXD that included the link to the battery fix. I think at this point, JXD is taking all of our complaint issues in order to address at some obvious issues on their first official update.  I cant tell you on the shield now update since it was an a hack that was done by someone here and I think afterwards JXD released another update...I didn't apply this update myself because im not too confident in apply...nor do I know how to do so.. I have the files but im afraid of bricking my unit. For the meantime, ill wait for some thing office from them.. im not in no rush... I have waaay too many devices to keep me busy.I Play simple retro mame arcade games and on occasion andriod games. I think once JXD gets many of the things resolved, I can see myself exploring other games.

Wow. sounds really good! I m not too much into playing hardcore games.. but games like GTA san andreas, vice city and stuff.. they were my teenage years.. So if i can play all these i m v happy.. And it sounds like this s192 with the updates that have been released is more than enough to do all these!!

Time for me to order!!! =) Thanks anyway for the info!!!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: mixwell on June 09, 2016, 09:55:27 am
From what I understand it's virtually impossible to brick a tegra  device because of the low level apx mode.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 09, 2016, 10:19:03 am
From what I understand it's virtually impossible to brick a tegra  device because of the low level apx mode.
.

Yeah, it's pretty much like rk3288 devices, though flashing a wrong bootloader can make it bricked.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 09, 2016, 12:19:30 pm
I would see if these small messenger type bags would be any good as carry cases.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/191891116804


They look wide enough.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: happyhippy on June 09, 2016, 09:21:48 pm
I picked up one of these for a travel case:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00NHIUANO/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

However just ordered the Amazon Basics version as the zipper on the Luxebell Case is terrible and sticks.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PMMB4X8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I just re cut the foam to make the JXD fit.

Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 09, 2016, 09:28:52 pm
Looks pretty nice.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: vcoleiro1 on June 10, 2016, 03:52:56 am
Probably already posted, but in case it hasn't , Banggood.com is having a coupon code sale for S192 . The coupon code:  d6fbd2  gets you the S192 for $279.99 with free shipping
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 10, 2016, 12:32:01 pm
If that case was just a fraction deeper it would be very good indeed. I could make a custom insert for the console.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on June 11, 2016, 05:34:54 am
Anyone know how to get into flash mode. Im going over the instructions on flashing the firmware and its says to do..

4. Turn off your device, connect the device to your PC via a micro USB cable, press “volume +” and “reset” button at the same time to enter flashing mode, meanwhile, your PC will be requested to install Driver, go to the Device Manager to install the Driver manually... I dont know where the reset button is?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on June 11, 2016, 06:48:22 am
I think they mean the Power Button.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: mixwell on June 11, 2016, 09:30:32 am
The reset button is on the bottom edge by the charging port. But the power button works as well to put in into apx mode.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on June 11, 2016, 03:06:51 pm
Downloading the sources now.  JXD has ok'ed me to share them.  So, the sources are available here: https://mega.nz/#F!Utg3xR5B!1phxtRLppKCB4Kb18CsyMQ
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 11, 2016, 03:28:30 pm
Downloading the sources now.  JXD has ok'ed me to share them.  So, the sources are available here: https://mega.nz/#F!Utg3xR5B!1phxtRLppKCB4Kb18CsyMQ

LOL, I just got the same email. Seems a whole Android 4.4 SDK according to size.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on June 11, 2016, 04:48:43 pm
I think they mean the Power Button.

Thank you.. i will try that... so the unit has to be powered off?

What i did was power down the unit, connected the device to my computer and pressed the power and the volume +...

Nothing happened.. at one point, the device almost didnt power on. I got the orange light.. i disconnected the unit the orange light stayed on..waited a few minutes and it hame up. I felt like i dodged a bullet from not powering up. 
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: mixwell on June 11, 2016, 10:59:39 pm
I think they mean the Power Button.

Thank you.. i will try that... so the unit has to be powered off?

What i did was power down the unit, connected the device to my computer and pressed the power and the volume +...

Nothing happened.. at one point, the device almost didnt power on. I got the orange light.. i disconnected the unit the orange light stayed on..waited a few minutes and it hame up. I felt like i dodged a bullet from not powering up. 

Yes power it off, hold vol up and press reset or the power button once.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 12, 2016, 10:18:33 am
So did anyone take a look to source code to see if it's completes, etc...?

Edit, just extracted and tried to compile it and it seems it doesn't compile, I got some errors. I never had problems compiling for shield tablet so I don't think it's a problem with my linux environment. Also, it lacks some important documentation like the DTS file they are using etc... Looking at the source it seems they are recycling DDR memories and Battery from 7800B, because they even include some RK stuff with it.... what a mess of code....
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 12, 2016, 01:23:24 pm
This is my review of the Jxd S192 Singularity.

Most of you want to know if this device is worth its over $300 asking price, and my answer to you is it is as long as you understand what it is and what it isn't and what it does well and what it doesn't do well as well as what it can't do at all.
This review will be broken down into two main fractions of what this device is like out of box and what it's like after tampering with things and unlocking it's hidden potential and power.

Firstly I have been meaning to do this review for awhile now but every time I got started something new was discovered with this device or Jxd themselves actually did something mind blowing. And the last week I've been sick with the flu which is why I haven't been on the forum's much or on Facebook. Granted I am still sick but this is a review very much overdue. Firstly the Jxd S192 Singularity is not an Nvidia Shield Portable or Tablet. In some ways even out of the box it is better than both of Nvidia's portable devices ,and only falls below the dynamic duo in one area; which is with the Shield exclusive games. Some of the Shield exclusives no matter what one attempts to do will not play on this device out of the box! Amazingly Jxd themselves both offer a way to root the Jxd S192 and to access the Shield Hub to make use of both Geforce Now and Nvidia's official Game-stream, PC game streaming. Although I must state Moonlight game streaming works fine also. And one major plus for the Jxd over the Nvidia Shield Portable is that with game streaming you can set the stream to 1080p 60fps on the S192. When connecting the Jxd S192 Singularity to a TV or Monitor using HDMI sometimes you have to restart the device and whatever it's connected to in order for there to be sound.  Emulator wise I have been using HappyChick and it works perfectly with only occasionally having to map out a game here or there. I like HappyChick because it has multiple emulators and their Roms all in one place. Drastic the Nintendo DS emulator also works fine. I haven't used Retroarch admittedly as I hate it! I don't have the patience to load a core and then find a game every time I want to play a game. Now understand that I am not knocking Retroarch for those who love it,but I just don't personally like it myself. HappyChick has a much easier ease of use. One amazing thing about the Jxd S192 is how light it feels! Mind you it doesn't feel cheap or flimsy, and even though it weighs one gram more than the Nvidia Shield Portable it feels like much less; because of the S192's weight being so well distributed. I have been using the Jxd S192 for hours each day and never had to deal with fatigue. Using apps like Showbox and Netflix this device proves to be great for enjoying more than just gaming. And it's 6-10 hours of battery life with gaming vs 10+ of other media. The screen is very bright and clear even on the lowest brightness setting. The speakers while loud and quite clear don't have any real bass to speak of. The controls are very good! It's as if Jxd made a Frankenstein's monster of a handheld by combining various different gaming components into this one device. The D-pad is of a quality equal to the SNES but with a concave center. The analog sticks are a cross between the Shield Portable and a Ps3. They've been accurate in all of the games that I have tested. The shoulder buttons and triggers are of good quality also and have a satisfactory click to them. And I love that Jxd included not just start and select buttons but also back and home buttons also. This device doesn't creak or rattle when shaken. Nor does it feel cheap in any way. People have already been making use of this device for Ps4 remote play. Which its a far better choice for than the PS Vita ,as it has all of the buttons and triggers one needs! All things considered it's a quality product. One more thing that I must note Jxd says that the biggest memory card to use with this device is 128gb's. Well I'm happy to tell you that I and others have 200gb Sandisk micro SDXc cards installed in our S192's that are functioning properly. The only drawback being sometimes having to unmount and then mount the card again in settings in order to have its contents read and displayed upon startup after being shutdown. With this card and HappyChick both installed I now have the ultimate portable emulation console and handheld all in one device!  Now there are some drawbacks that will be mentioned although I'm certain that most will be taken care of and the others are not common enough to reduce the quality standard of this device. Firstly I will address the battery issues that I have personally experienced and know of. The first issue that affects some Jxd S192's is one where even once fully charged the battery both doesn't display as being fully charged nor will simply resetting or using battery calibration apps fix this issue. Amazingly Jxd themselves have already fixed this issue by releasing an update, once they were notified by others and myself of the problem. The second battery and software related issue is a very small amount of the Jxd S192's either suffer one of two problems or a combination of both. The issues are either the S192's display won't work or the battery will not charge. That's it for out of the box and as can be seen out of the box it isn't a bad device. This device can be used for flying drones,opening garage doors ect ect .... as can be seen there's not much that can't be done out of the box with the S192.

Now onto the dark side of the Jxd S192 thanks to LordDavon and others on the Jxd S192 Singularity thread of the Jxd part of Dingoonity forum we have found out Kingroot works for rooting if one doesn't want to use Jxd's solution. And using an app called BuildProp Editor one is able to access the Shield Hub by editing specific lines of the BuildProp to match those of the Nvidia Shield Tablet. This useful tactic was discovered by and made known to the rest of us by way of LordDavon days before Jxd themselves released their own update, that included access to Shield Hub. Also LordDavon and Skelton have both been given the okay from Jxd to release the source code which appears to be the full Android 4.4 SDK of the Jxd S192. With this having been released the possibilities are endless! And to think that this wonderful device has only been released for a few weeks. The future is looking quite bright for the Jxd S192 Singularity.

I can honestly say in summary that even if you're not at all interested in Android gaming, that by way of emulation and Ps4 remote play pc/laptop game streaming and media viewing the Jxd S192 Singularity is worth its over $300 asking price. More so if one does make use of all of its Android capabilities.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 12, 2016, 02:30:18 pm
Thanks for your thoghts. I prefer portability so i think i will just keep with the gpd xd. I never use gamesreaming or tegra games even though i have a shield tablet, so i think it's ok for me.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 12, 2016, 03:01:35 pm
Great review, still awaiting mine in the post.

Do you have time to do a S7800 vs S192?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: adamantibus on June 12, 2016, 04:13:45 pm
I've heard the worst things about the d-pad. It looks cheap and uncomfortable in pics and videos.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 12, 2016, 04:15:48 pm
@LordDavon You had root in your JXD right? Can you confirm me it's capped at 2.0 ghz and not 2.2? I suppose CPU-Z or a CPU app can tell you. I have been taken a look today to the code (My brother brought me laptop to the hospital, but seeing the code I don't see it capped to 2.0.....

The source code is a mess though, some files are missing and I am trying patching here and there to see if at least compiles.... I emailed JXD about that, but I won't put too much effort into it unless they decide to send me a unit for testing (I can compile something, but without testing someone would need to act as a guinea pig, which is comething I don't like in case I brick someone's device)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: bagmouse7 on June 12, 2016, 04:32:32 pm
I have the same issue as siliconmessiah from a couple of posts back, which is..

Sick "Android Robot" with the red triangle after trying to apply the 2nd update.zip.
I have successfully updated the 192 with the first update.zip from the JXD facebook page and it did successfully fix the battery issue (reporting %50 when fully charged).

With the update 1 applied, you can download the shieldhub that JXD provides, but for me it immediately asks you to upgrade to the latest sheid hub and then redirects you to the Play store, which promptly tells you your device is incompatible with the ShieldHub...

I was wondering if someone can confirm that with the second update.zip from the JXB facebook page, that you can Gamestream from your PC to the s192???

I have been too lazy to want to reflash the 192, mostly because I have loaded many apps and roms and also because Moonlight is working great to stream the Gamestream games to the s192.  So before I reflash I was hoping someone could confirm that Gamestreaming through the ShieldHus is working.

I have a shield portable, tablet and TV and when I sideload the latest shieldhub onto the s192, the Gamestream option does not show up in the menu.


Here are some of my thoughts about the device in the spirit of Elronza's (much more complete) review.

Other than immature firmware, I am really liking the S192. 
The screen is great and it is want Shield Portable owners have been asking for.  Bigger, full HD resolution, nice and bright and a very wide viewing angle.  Emulators with good scaling algorithms look great on the screen.
The analog sticks are great, the d-pad is pretty good, the buttons are very good (good size and placement), the triggers are not so great but are usable.  I have noticed that some emulators that have support for the shield controllers do not map perfectly to the s192 controls, but this can usually be worked around.
The battery has a very long life (10,000mAh!) and while it heats up slightly, it (at least mine) never gets above what I would call warm. 
The overall build quality is very good.  Much higher than the JXD7800 and many other handhelds that I have. It fells great in your hands, is will balanced and your hands naturally fall where the controls are placed.

I am really enjoying mine and am looking forward to seeing if it can get some community support going behind it.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on June 12, 2016, 05:08:24 pm
Yes.
The new update brings the Shield Hub and Gamestream/Geforce now. It is working perfectly.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on June 12, 2016, 05:10:59 pm
@LordDavon You had root in your JXD right? Can you confirm me it's capped at 2.0 ghz and not 2.2? I suppose CPU-Z or a CPU app can tell you. I have been taken a look today to the code (My brother brought me laptop to the hospital, but seeing the code I don't see it capped to 2.0.....

The source code is a mess though, some files are missing and I am trying patching here and there to see if at least compiles.... I emailed JXD about that, but I won't put too much effort into it unless they decide to send me a unit for testing (I can compile something, but without testing someone would need to act as a guinea pig, which is comething I don't like in case I brick someone's device)

Hi @skelton.  The device is capped at 2Ghz.  SetCPU will not take it any higher either.

I had to take my 2014 Tacoma Prerunner in for her biannual maintenance yesterday, and she came out as a 2016 Tacoma Limited.  So, I was spending a bit too much time there to get much else done.  I'm going to look at the sources today and see what I can figure out.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 12, 2016, 05:23:18 pm
@LordDavon You had root in your JXD right? Can you confirm me it's capped at 2.0 ghz and not 2.2? I suppose CPU-Z or a CPU app can tell you. I have been taken a look today to the code (My brother brought me laptop to the hospital, but seeing the code I don't see it capped to 2.0.....

The source code is a mess though, some files are missing and I am trying patching here and there to see if at least compiles.... I emailed JXD about that, but I won't put too much effort into it unless they decide to send me a unit for testing (I can compile something, but without testing someone would need to act as a guinea pig, which is comething I don't like in case I brick someone's device)

Hi @skelton.  The device is capped at 2Ghz.  SetCPU will not take it any higher either.

I had to take my 2014 Tacoma Prerunner in for her biannual maintenance yesterday, and she came out as a 2016 Tacoma Limited.  So, I was spending a bit too much time there to get much else done.  I'm going to look at the sources today and see what I can figure out.

Thanks, I'll have to compare with shield tablet kernel to check differneces in dvfs or speedo modes, I supposed they capped   it there. though honestly, between 2.0 and 2,2 diffeence is very minimal. I have been patching their source code because it doesn't compile by default. It's still compiling so let's see if it finishes. (I didn't change anything, just want to assure that it compiles). Source is a whole mess, they reusing things from the Rockchip SDK for battery and the RKUpdateservice used in RK devices... I think they just put two batteries from 7800b to make the s192.....
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 12, 2016, 05:49:02 pm
Thank you everyone! It's because of my distaste for the Nvidia Shield tablet. With it having the controller as separate, that the Jxd S192 found me gawking at it lol. And then being apart of this wonderful community of gamers is a joy all its own. More so of a Joy when I found that a number of us were all eyeing the Jxd S192 Singularity.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 12, 2016, 05:52:35 pm
Question has anyone been able to confirm if the S192 has a fan for cooling?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on June 12, 2016, 06:14:11 pm
Question has anyone been able to confirm if the S192 has a fan for cooling?

If it has, it is damn silent.
My bet is that there is no fan. But then again, I don't know for sure. We need someone to take their s192 apart.  8)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 12, 2016, 07:35:56 pm
The reason I am asking about the fan SiliconMessiah is over clocking potential.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 12, 2016, 07:51:50 pm
I have my shield tablet overcloked to 2.5 GHz and diffeernce is minimal.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 12, 2016, 10:29:23 pm
Thanks Skeleton for the information about there not being a big difference in performance!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 13, 2016, 07:02:21 pm
I got managed to compile the source code. there were a couple of errors that I needed to change. Two things I noticed is that I have no idea if battery fix is included in the source. I suppose it is, because it's a kernel change. Two, the shield hub update they included later is not in the source, though that's not a problem, can be added to compile extracting from the update zip.

I am not developing ofr this device, basically because JXD is not sending me a sample, or any reseller, and I am not going to waste 300 bucks just for development sake,

Amyhow, If anyone wants to know how to compile, I can make a separate thread with the changes needed to compile and the basic setup to compile it (linux build environment, etc etc....) I can help if someone wants to try, but as you can imagine, I prefer to develop for GPD, because they are more collaborative with me to be honest.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on June 13, 2016, 08:44:47 pm
I saw JXD put up some youtube-videos on how to replace some parts. I guess parts like control sticks and buttons will be sold shortly. That's nice for support in the long run!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 13, 2016, 08:47:35 pm
I saw those videos, little bit worrying they need to release 'how to fix' your s192 so soon after release.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: bagmouse7 on June 13, 2016, 09:08:05 pm
I think we should crowd fund a S192 for Skelton so he can get his hands on a unit :-)
I would be willing to kick in some $$ to help make this happen.

Is anyone else out there thinking about (or even capable) of creating a custom firmware for the S192?

The hardware has tremendous potential, but (at least in the past) JXD support for their platforms has not been that great, so we need a hero like Skelton to get it done!



I am not developing ofr this device, basically because JXD is not sending me a sample, or any reseller, and I am not going to waste 300 bucks just for development sake,

Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: darthskids on June 13, 2016, 09:27:44 pm
Sounds good to me.
Better than breaking the thing trying to do it myself.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: DCXPIG on June 13, 2016, 10:09:45 pm
 I'd throw in for a unit for Skelton, I'm mainly a "silent consumer," on the forum however his work was great for me in the past.  I now have a Shield portable, the XD and just received my S192..  Seems like a nice bit of hardware for the minute I played with it but it definitely needs some help, unfortunately I have no experience on that end
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 13, 2016, 10:26:45 pm
Chipping in on a S192 for Skelton sure count me in!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on June 13, 2016, 10:48:23 pm
I got managed to compile the source code. there were a couple of errors that I needed to change. Two things I noticed is that I have no idea if battery fix is included in the source. I suppose it is, because it's a kernel change. Two, the shield hub update they included later is not in the source, though that's not a problem, can be added to compile extracting from the update zip.

I am not developing ofr this device, basically because JXD is not sending me a sample, or any reseller, and I am not going to waste 300 bucks just for development sake,

Amyhow, If anyone wants to know how to compile, I can make a separate thread with the changes needed to compile and the basic setup to compile it (linux build environment, etc etc....) I can help if someone wants to try, but as you can imagine, I prefer to develop for GPD, because they are more collaborative with me to be honest.

I'm still working on it.  Started about an hour ago.  Needed to setup the environment from scratch.  My make v3.8 is suffixed,i.e. make-3.8, and had to install SunJDK 6, Bison, etc.  I will let you know if I run into any snags.  So far, just editing their scripts and seeing what fails next.  Luckily Ubuntu has an ARM environment, so cross compile shouldn't be an issue.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 13, 2016, 11:03:07 pm
You are doing it good. Basically follow steps from here to setup your ubuntu.

https://source.android.com/source/initializing.html
 Oracle Java 6 is the way to go for kitkat. NVIDIA kitkat source doesn't like openjdk 6 or later.

I will submit my changes tomorrow when i power on my laptop..It's just a couple of changes in two android..mk files for two apps, gamemap.apk (jxd mapper i assume?) And keymaster.apk that i have no idea what it is. It's late now in spain, so i will try to find some time tomorrow, maybe i can make a mini tuto in a separarte thread .
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on June 14, 2016, 01:01:06 am
You are doing it good. Basically follow steps from here to setup your ubuntu.

https://source.android.com/source/initializing.html
 Oracle Java 6 is the way to go for kitkat. NVIDIA kitkat source doesn't like openjdk 6 or later.

I will submit my changes tomorrow when i power on my laptop..It's just a couple of changes in two android..mk files for two apps, gamemap.apk (jxd mapper i assume?) And keymaster.apk that i have no idea what it is. It's late now in spain, so i will try to find some time tomorrow, maybe i can make a mini tuto in a separarte thread .

I should have installed Ubuntu on my PC.  I've got a decent PC, but I'm running Ubuntu in VirtualBox.  I am sure that's why takes a while to compile.  Intel 4790K, 16GB, 1.2TB SSD, GTX970 turned into a 486.  Arg!  Just edited jnl_reader.cpp, and now have to wait forever to see if that does it.

Edit: Set it back.  I don't think I care if bytes gets reset.  Maybe just need to turn off the warning.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 14, 2016, 09:19:53 am
I use it in VirtualBox too. Compiling whole sdk takes time anyway even in a stand alone linux. I will try to find some time later to make thread explaining how to compile it...
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: xmcnuggetx on June 14, 2016, 01:31:12 pm
I received my device a few days ago now and I'm not super impressed.  I love the idea of the device.  For me it's exactly what I wanted.  It appears the quality of everything has the potential to be very nice, but lacking quality control.  My device arrived with a stuck green pixel in the top right of the lcd and the bottom left side of the lcd not adhered down properly.  It sits up higher than the plastic to the side of it.  Pushing down in that corner you can feel the lcd move down where it should be and pop/creek.  Sounding like the corner is just going to crack.  I'm still pushing JXD through email to do something, but so far the responses I've gotten are since it doesn't affect gameplay they are willing to credit me 10$.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: mixwell on June 14, 2016, 02:13:44 pm
I have a stuck green pixel just off centre in the screen :(
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: DCXPIG on June 14, 2016, 08:09:36 pm
 I have a stuck pixel on mine unit too, towards the center/left..  So frustrating.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on June 15, 2016, 02:03:31 pm
I'd throw in for a unit for Skelton, I'm mainly a "silent consumer," on the forum however his work was great for me in the past.  I now have a Shield portable, the XD and just received my S192..  Seems like a nice bit of hardware for the minute I played with it but it definitely needs some help, unfortunately I have no experience on that end

I wish I had the funds to just get one for you outright Skelton but in the process of buying a house...plus my wife will beat me...lol

In all seriousness, I will also pitch in for a unit for you to test.. We need to make this happen and since some places have discounts on the unit now..so thats a route to pay less..

I honestly haven't really used my device to its fullest nor did I add my 30k roms on my 200gig sd card, I havent been able to apply the firmware that JXD supplied. I still have issues trying to get into flashmode...maybe this weekend ill get some work...my DPD XD Red is still new and my 6 year old gets more use out of it...

Anyway, lets get a collection for Skelton started and get a s192... We all benefit from this and its for a worthy cause...

 
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: hexdump on June 16, 2016, 10:16:10 am
Hello guys,

I'm running into a big problem with my unit. When the unity got home I charged it at 100% and since then I haven't charged it again. Yesterday the battery got to 8% and I wanted to charge but it won't charge. I can see how the icon battery is drawn with a thunderbolt as ussual but the battery level never gets higer than 8%.

Could anyone help?

Cheers.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 16, 2016, 10:31:13 am
Are you using the genuine charger?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: chewy82 on June 16, 2016, 12:06:10 pm
So what's the verdict guys and gals, worth a punt? Should I wait until the end of the year? Where's good to buy one from (I am in the UK?)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 16, 2016, 12:08:26 pm
If your UK try funstock.co.uk you'll get a much better warranty than going direct.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: hexdump on June 16, 2016, 11:49:50 pm
Are you using the genuine charger?

No, but I changed to another charger and it finally worked!

Thanks.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 17, 2016, 08:07:02 am
Ahh, the jxd ilhas some hefty batteries you need 2 or 3amp charger for it, cheap chargers won't work properly.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: halljames on June 17, 2016, 08:43:08 am
If your UK try funstock.co.uk you'll get a much better warranty than going direct.

I'm still waiting on them to get stock, I have it preordered.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 17, 2016, 08:45:45 am
Bah... tell me about it, I was told 2 days ago it might be another 5 weeks! Jxd can ship it direct to me within 12 days.. starting to piss me off.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 17, 2016, 09:12:43 am
It came to my ears that jxd is releasong another model called s192k, with rk3288. No idea if that means that they give up s192 or just both devices will live together.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 17, 2016, 09:45:41 am
Seems a bit pointless, why buy a slower s192 device over say an s7800b ?  Any increase in speed would be minimal.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 17, 2016, 09:55:31 am
S7800b is a rk3188. Rk3288 is a good improvement over rk3188, specially in gpu. I suppose they want to release an alternativa and cheaper versión than actual tegra device. Or perhaps s192 has been a sales failure, who knows..
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 17, 2016, 10:01:08 am
Yeah but what I mean is the s7800 plays everything up to SNES / Megadrive ect. And the increase is cpu/GPU won't make a difference enough for n64/ dolphin/ psp ect?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 17, 2016, 10:01:53 am
Certainly as you buy s7800 for £100
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 17, 2016, 10:07:21 am
Yeah but what I mean is the s7800 plays everything up to SNES / Megadrive ect. And the increase is cpu/GPU won't make a difference enough for n64/ dolphin/ psp ect?

Psp, uoyabause, reicast etc rkns much better.nintendo 64 runs better too with mupen and OpenGL 3.0. also it  allows better shaders than rk3188. Android games run much better too than rk3188. In fact in my rk3288 devices i rjn pretty much the same things as my shield tablet, except tegra games.

The strange thing is that jxd is offering me this new device instead of the tegra one, so i hope that doesn't mean they decided to stop production of the k1device....
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 17, 2016, 10:14:14 am
It would need to be a massive increase for me to upgrade to.

When you say offering you it instead, you mean they aren't fulfilling your s192 order and instead offering the K version? That sucks.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 17, 2016, 10:25:30 am
I've asked funstock to see if they can find out any info. I will be very pissed off after paying in advance and waiting 8 months I don't get one.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 17, 2016, 10:59:33 am
So they said the batch they have ordered have the Nvidia chip in.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Web8bits on June 17, 2016, 11:00:57 am
JXD will stop production of S192 Tegra K1 devices and start production of a new device, S192K, based on RK3288 chipset. Two versions will be available, one with 2 GB of RAM and 32 GB storage and another one with 4 GB of RAM and 64 GB of storage.

JXD has make this decision not for a poor sales of S192 Tegra K1 device, is selling very well, but rather they make that decision because nvidia stop selling K1 chips for them. Sadly it´s true.

So if someone is interested on this K1 device, buy it fast, because when shop run out of stock no more will be available.

Regards
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 17, 2016, 11:30:14 am
It would need to be a massive increase for me to upgrade to.

When you say offering you it instead, you mean they aren't fulfilling your s192 order and instead offering the K version? That sucks.

They are offering me an engknerring samlple to help them with the firmware. I would have preferred they offered me a tegra one, because i already have a rk3288 device, the gpd xd, which is a great device. I also think that panel resolution is too big for a rk3288 device.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 17, 2016, 12:08:14 pm
Sound like it's doomed to fail, too many devices with similar spec already, just hope I get the Nvidia version in time Before they stop.

So Nvidia ran out if chips or they just sticking the boot in because JXD hacked the software to make it run on the device and Nvidia got pissed off?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 17, 2016, 12:18:21 pm
No idea, NVIDIA is a bit especial about selling their stuff to other companies. About the success, i suppose it will depends on the price. Rk3288 is cheaper so i guess if they release it at an affordsble price, it may success, but gpd is already selling rk3288 successfully. I think jxd should have waited for nee rockchip rk3399.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: vcoleiro1 on June 17, 2016, 12:19:15 pm
Surely it would make more sense if they released it with the RK3399, even if that means a few months delay.   

The RK3399 should be cheap and similar power to the K1
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 17, 2016, 12:21:34 pm
Yeah and were all used to waiting for a new JXD decide so would be fine.

I understand why Nvidia wouldn't want to sell the chips, after all they are a Brand... as well as a chip manufacturer.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: vcoleiro1 on June 17, 2016, 12:28:20 pm
Pretty sure Nvidia are getting out of the mobile SOC business, they have been rumbling about it for a long time, recently its been getting more direct. Uptake of Tegra SOCs in mobile devices has shrunk with each Tegra version.  So much so that the X1 only got into one third party mobile device, the Pixel C.  It's inevitable. They have been saying they will now focus on Auto etc market segments.

They are more a design house (more on the GPU side) than anything. The Tegra SOCs are actually made by TSMC I think.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 17, 2016, 12:31:28 pm
Very true, I read that as well but this is a current chip they make. It just seems rather sudden they drop this chip knowing jxd put it in their brand new flagship device. OR if course it could be that jxd decides it was better to use an end of life chip and due to the delays that happened Nvidia ran out or something.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: vcoleiro1 on June 17, 2016, 12:37:36 pm
Like it or not, devices like the JXD S192 or even GPD devices are niche, they don't sell in enough numbers and thus don't generate large enough orders to warrant Nvidia ordering a batch of those SOCs with TSMC. Remember , Nvidia don't make Tegra SOCs, they are subject to volume price scaling with TSMC.  If they don't have a large enough order , then well, you know the rest.

The only other reason would be they think it's a threat to an upcoming product they are about to release. But that makes even less sense, as they would have known what it was from the beginning.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 17, 2016, 03:12:46 pm
My question is what noticeable improvement would the S192 with 4gbs of ram have over my Gpd Xd with the same rk3288 and 2 gbs of ram?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 17, 2016, 03:18:28 pm
I would say not enough to warrant the spend, I personally think they are just trying to save all the r&d costs for the Nvidia version by quickly subbing the rk chip.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 17, 2016, 03:33:01 pm
My question is what noticeable improvement would the S192 with 4gbs of ram have over my Gpd Xd with the same rk3288 and 2 gbs of ram?

Nothing. Even the shield tablet has 2 gb ram. 4gb ram is unnecesary. It only makes device more expensive. In fact this device will perform worse than gpd xd because of the kncreasong resolution in android games. Though gpd xd perfomance is very good in this sense. At least all games i play in xd are buttery smooth. Only diffeernce is that jxd is releasing it with lollipop. I personally prefer kitkat in rk3288 for gaming.

The fact that jxd is offering me the rk.model to help with firmware instead of the tegra one is kind of worried. I have the feelingnthey will drop Support for the tegra shortly regarding firmware. Perhaps that's why they decided to release source code.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 17, 2016, 03:43:09 pm
So dilemma, for people like me still waiting for their order or who haven't purchased yet, is it even worth getting anymore. I'm edging towards cancelling at the moment.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on June 17, 2016, 04:02:16 pm
The fact that jxd is offering me the rk.model to help with firmware instead of the tegra one is kind of worried. I have the feelingnthey will drop Support for the tegra shortly regarding firmware. Perhaps that's why they decided to release source code.

They messaged me again last night, reminding me that anything I need... yadda yadda... 
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 17, 2016, 04:20:49 pm
The fact that jxd is offering me the rk.model to help with firmware instead of the tegra one is kind of worried. I have the feelingnthey will drop Support for the tegra shortly regarding firmware. Perhaps that's why they decided to release source code.

They messaged me again last night, reminding me that anything I need... yadda yadda...

Yep, they asked me to if I needed anything, but when I answered that what I need is a device to test, then they told me they would send me the the s192 with RK :(
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 17, 2016, 04:22:27 pm
Brilliant so the s192 with Nvidia is dead only 4 weeks after shipping.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on June 17, 2016, 04:57:27 pm
Yep, they asked me to if I needed anything, but when I answered that what I need is a device to test, then they told me they would send me the the s192 with RK :(

Take it, but ask them for both. :-)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 17, 2016, 05:18:08 pm
Yep, they asked me to if I needed anything, but when I answered that what I need is a device to test, then they told me they would send me the the s192 with RK :(

Take it, but ask them for both. :-)

I did, but without results....
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Tony23uk on June 17, 2016, 09:06:10 pm
So what's happening guys I ordered the s192 with funstock and still waiting for it what's this I read that jxd are gonna no longer produce it will Nvidia chip ?
Really not sure what to do now ?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: wangkiller on June 18, 2016, 02:39:55 am
Dear all,

I wanna buy from banggood because of it is really one of the cheapest for me. Just wanna ask if anyone got prior experience of buying from them? Legit?

And i decided to take a gamble and buy.. before they release the new s192k.. I think I really want the nvidia one since the updates do solve all the problems.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: vcoleiro1 on June 18, 2016, 02:47:33 am
Dear all,

I wanna buy from banggood because of it is really one of the cheapest for me. Just wanna ask if anyone got prior experience of buying from them? Legit?

And i decided to take a gamble and buy.. before they release the new s192k.. I think I really want the nvidia one since the updates do solve all the problems.

Iv'e bought a tablet from Banggood. No complaints, I ordered and got it it pretty timely.  It wasn't in it's original box to save on shipping, can't remember if that was something I knew upfront or not.   Was a while ago
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: wangkiller on June 18, 2016, 03:22:50 am
Thanks vcoleiro. But does it mean you didnt even get ur original box that came with it?? Cause i read the description saying they will replace the packaging with some foam wrap
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: vcoleiro1 on June 18, 2016, 03:45:19 am
Thanks vcoleiro. But does it mean you didnt even get ur original box that came with it?? Cause i read the description saying they will replace the packaging with some foam wrap

Yeah that sounds familiar, they didn't send the original box, it came in a make shift foam box so the package was smaller.   The original box was not in the package - folded or otherwise.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: wangkiller on June 18, 2016, 04:38:00 am
thanks for the info. Anyone bought from dinodirect and got their stuff already?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Pleng on June 18, 2016, 07:19:08 am
or they just sticking the boot in because JXD hacked the software to make it run on the device and Nvidia got pissed off?

this sounds like the most likely reason to me
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: halljames on June 18, 2016, 12:35:10 pm
Well, I'm sorry to say I have cancelled my pre-order.  I have no interest in purchasing a device thats not even available in the UK, but is now already obsolete.

Such a shame as it looked like a really nice device.

Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 18, 2016, 12:40:07 pm
I feel your pain ! I'm in the same boat.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: halljames on June 18, 2016, 12:46:27 pm
I feel your pain ! I'm in the same boat.

I think I am just going to dust of my GPD XD and see if I can spend a bit more time setting it up properly :)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 18, 2016, 12:50:25 pm
Yeah, I too am thinking why did I bother now, I have S7800 which to be honest plays all my retro stuff which is all I use it for but s192 was something new and exciting at the time.

I can't believe jxd fu**ed this up so royally, first it gets announced then 8 months delay, now failing support and new model all before it even hits uk shores.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on June 18, 2016, 01:04:47 pm
I am glad that I got one of the K1 before they are stopping the sales of them!  8)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 18, 2016, 01:07:26 pm
Funstocks batch that are on the way are also K1, I got Dennis to check for me as I would have of cancelled there and then if they weren't.

I just hope it's worth the grief that's all, slow screen, possible battery issue, possible LCD dead pixels, possible no Nvidia games support.... list keeps getting longer and longer. Ha-ha.

Still holding out for the moment... until Nvidia launch sheild 3 or some other thing.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: vcoleiro1 on June 18, 2016, 01:09:49 pm
Did we ever discover why the Antutu score is so low on the S192 compared to the Shield tablet with the same K1 SOC?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 18, 2016, 01:10:42 pm
Don't think so, I did try and find out at the time. Probably just sheild is more optimised in the drivers ?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 18, 2016, 03:22:09 pm
Actually RK3288 is only slightly less powerful than the Tegra K1.  Here's a link that shows test results of the RK3288 vs the Tegra K1.


http://www.cnx-software.com/2014/05/21/comparison-nvidia-tegra-k1-samsung-exynos-5422-rockchip-rk3288-allwinner-a80/
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 18, 2016, 03:40:20 pm
I do believe that if Jxd are going to use a RockChip that they should use the RK3399 link provided below showing it's specs.



http://www.rock-chips.com/a/en/products/RK33_Series/2016/0419/758.html
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 18, 2016, 03:54:13 pm
I do believe that if Jxd are going to use a RockChip that they should use the RK3399 link provided below showing it's specs.



http://www.rock-chips.com/a/en/products/RK33_Series/2016/0419/758.html

The problem with RK3399 is that there is no large quantity chips yet, just a few ones for testing. will be massively manufactured in september or so. Though perhapas they should have waited, or maybe they just release a third s192 this time with RK3399 XDDDD
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 18, 2016, 06:54:18 pm
Skelton could you suggest to them to consider the RK3399? It is already the middle of June so September isn't far away.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 18, 2016, 07:14:21 pm
Skelton could you suggest to them to consider the RK3399? It is already the middle of June so September isn't far away.

I did but they are.manufa turing with rk3288 right now. No idea if they will use rk3399 in the future.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: chewy82 on June 18, 2016, 07:23:32 pm
Wow. What an absolutely ridiculous turn of events. I'm going to either buy a second hand Shield or wait for an X1 tablet. JXD have really botched this up.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 18, 2016, 07:34:29 pm
Wow. What an absolutely ridiculous turn of events. I'm going to either buy a second hand Shield or wait for an X1 tablet. JXD have really botched this up.
Sure have.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: darthskids on June 18, 2016, 09:06:13 pm
Seems about normal for JXD.  When the 7800 launched there was the a model, then the b model, then of the b models one was clocked higher but only had 8gb internal memory and they switched over to a lower binned/clocked cpu with 16gb.  I'm just curious which one will be arriving in the mail after ordering from geekbuying.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 19, 2016, 06:23:27 am
Yeah Jxd is going to have to come better than the RK3288! I ran the following tests on my Gpd Xd to compare the results with someone else who owns two Shield Portables one of which is a prototype and his Shield Tablet. Link provided below to show how badly RK3288 fared.





Gpd Xd

3dMark Ice Storm Extreme

Score: 7893

3dMark Ice Storm Unlimited

Score: 11654

Antutu Benchmark v6.1.4

Score: 39193



https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/943734/shield-portable/two-new-models-of-jxd-s192-coming-soon-/
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 19, 2016, 11:05:30 am
Benchmark are not very reliable
 My phone gives better benchmark that my gpd, howeverbthw gpd performs better in gaming. Also, rk3288 has OpenGL 3.0 which isbeginong to be used in some emus (uoyabause doesn't run in. Shield portable). Some games like xenowerk requiere open gl 3.0. some emus like n64 run better and more accurate with OpenGL 3.0 pligin too. In the end rk3288 is quite good performer, however the screen resolution in this new jxd can be an issue. On the other hand, it should be cheaper than current tegra k1 model.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: ClawShrimp on June 19, 2016, 01:06:35 pm
I just wish JXD would remake the S603. Add shoulder buttons, another analog stick, and some reasonable but inexpensive specs...as long as the screen res is low, performance would be good.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 19, 2016, 03:31:41 pm
The S192k with the 4gb's of ram and 64gb's of storage can't be too much of a slouch, as a TV box with the same RK3288 and amount of ram is capable of UHD. 


https://www.amazon.com/HPH-Mali-T764-Cortex-A17-Android-Bluetooth/dp/B00ONUJ3UG
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 19, 2016, 04:36:57 pm
That is my tvbox. I must say that 4 gb is unnecesary. They should release it with 2, which is enough in my opinion, and would be cheaper.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 19, 2016, 09:27:57 pm
Really Skelton you have this exact TV Box? from the reviews I read it seems to be pretty good. What's your verdict on it?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 19, 2016, 10:04:16 pm
Yep, it's that. Not bad for gaming, havw a big fan, so can be overclocked easily. However, for vídeo reproduction i prefer those that use amlogic chipset.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on June 20, 2016, 12:47:38 am
I got the Shield TV, and while I love the speed, it lacks in apps.  How are those boxes for apps?  Do they run standard Android apps?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: fr500 on June 20, 2016, 02:48:35 am
I got the Shield TV, and while I love the speed, it lacks in apps.  How are those boxes for apps?  Do they run standard Android apps?

woot...
Shield ATV can run pretty much every android game that doesn't need a touchscreen, you just have to sideload.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on June 20, 2016, 05:34:14 am
The SHIELD TV combined with my PC and the JXD S192 are the best investments for gaming that I have made in years.

I am also currently building a custom, dust-free stand for the S192. :)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 20, 2016, 10:05:04 am
I got the Shield TV, and while I love the speed, it lacks in apps.  How are those boxes for apps?  Do they run standard Android apps?

Yep, you can install normal android apps. For shield tv there is a aosp firmware not based on android tv from what i have read. If not, i suppose you must sideload apks.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on June 20, 2016, 12:48:08 pm
I got the Shield TV, and while I love the speed, it lacks in apps.  How are those boxes for apps?  Do they run standard Android apps?

Yep, you can install normal android apps. For shield tv there is a aosp firmware not based on android tv from what i have read. If not, i suppose you must sideload apks.

Yeah, sideloading is a thing on the Shield TV. I have done that for Final Fantasy IX for example.
Runs like a charm though. And also plays fine on the JXD s192.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: DCXPIG on June 20, 2016, 03:32:53 pm
 Does anyone notice a stutter in framerate on many games?  I pulled down my install of Dark Knight and Spiderman 2, both look great however it appears there's a dropped frame every 3-4 seconds..  Completely ruins it for me, just not smooth at all.  Around the time that installed the aforementioned games I started having audio issues as well, sometimes the software simply doesn't put out audio but the system portion seems to be just find (ie when notifications trigger or navigating touches in menus).  Lastly my volume up button on the top stopped registering, it doesn't show up on keytest either). 
  Has anyone had any of these issues, more importantly remedied them?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: ClawShrimp on June 21, 2016, 08:59:09 am
Does anyone notice a stutter in framerate on many games?  I pulled down my install of Dark Knight and Spiderman 2, both look great however it appears there's a dropped frame every 3-4 seconds.

I assume this is related to screen refresh rate, as it's unlikely due to a lack of horsepower.

I could be wrong.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 21, 2016, 09:01:54 am
Can it be fixed by editing the screen refresh file?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 21, 2016, 11:48:01 am
The refresh rate is set to 60 hz according to the source. Probably it has to do with the power policy, that sucks badly in tegra devices. Try setting device to high performance mode, or probably rooting and changing governor, because what I saw in source code is that it uses userspace governor by default.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: hexdump on June 21, 2016, 10:36:21 pm
The refresh rate is set to 60 hz according to the source. Probably it has to do with the power policy, that sucks badly in tegra devices. Try setting device to high performance mode, or probably rooting and changing governor, because what I saw in source code is that it uses userspace governor by default.

Do you think it is possible to ask JXD to change governor in its own rom?

Cheers.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 21, 2016, 10:51:40 pm
Anyone can do it. I made a guide to compile kernel and rom.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 21, 2016, 10:53:14 pm
How long does it take, cant you build a flashable firmware with all the fixes already 'out in wild' such as this, the 2 previous update packs jxd released.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on June 21, 2016, 11:28:13 pm
How long does it take, cant you build a flashable firmware with all the fixes already 'out in wild' such as this, the 2 previous update packs jxd released.

I'm working on it.  I've got the firmware together, and the Shield Tablet spoofing.  Having an issue on the permission of su at the moment, and @skelton is going to update the guide to help me.  After I've got the root together, just need to change some app defaults and I will release the first beta.

I've been flashing it too, and it is running fine on my device, so I think the sources we were given have the battery fixes in place already.

UPDATE: Oh, I think I found it.  The included su.c was coded to only allow root and shell users to use it.  I've modified the code and am recompiling.  Muhahaha

UPDATE2: DOH! I probably should have just deleted the binary and recompiled it.  I cleaned and reran from scratch.  Compiling takes forever!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: bagmouse7 on June 22, 2016, 12:38:08 am
Woot!!

Looking forward to your release!
Thanks for all the hard work!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on June 22, 2016, 01:56:45 am
Soooooo slooooowwwwww  compiling.....  ZZZzzzzzzzzzz

I've been playing with the unit and noticed StrictMode is on, but isn't set in the dev options.  That means that it is set in the code.  ACK!  I'll try disabling in the build.prop and see if that is enough.

update: Fixed StrictMode but su didn't compile.  I'm just grabbing the code from Cyanogen or something.

Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 22, 2016, 10:55:25 am
@LordDavon, if I get out from hospital today (I depend on doctors) I will try to make a guide (basically what I do in AOSP devices). I have to add busybox manually though because source comes without busybox, so not sure if it will work or we'll need a different approach.

There is CWM for shield tablet Kitkat. Probably the easiest way to get root though. My guess is that probably extracting CWM shield recovery and editing a couple of files should do the trick. I can try but I cannot test it though so it's up to you.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 23, 2016, 07:41:30 am
Swift recovery to you Skelton!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: adamantibus on June 23, 2016, 11:00:09 pm
If you had to choose, and considering the price tag is the same, which one would you rather get: the Shield Portable or this JXD S192?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: ClawShrimp on June 24, 2016, 12:08:13 am
If you had to choose, and considering the price tag is the same, which one would you rather get: the Shield Portable or this JXD S192?

JXD, no question. K1 instead of Tegra 4. 32GB instead if 16GB. 1920*1200 7" instead of 1280*720 5".
Plus, I never liked the clamshell design of the portable.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 24, 2016, 07:16:36 am
Update I have a message from Jxd that the S192k models featuring the RK3288 will be available as of next month.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 24, 2016, 07:19:07 am
Wow so soon!?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on June 24, 2016, 08:36:18 am
Wow...get your K1's while they last.
Too bad I am in a financial limbo right now due to moving and changing jobs.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 24, 2016, 01:41:54 pm
Here's proof in the form of emails between Jxd and myself.

Jun 21 (3 days ago)

to sales
Hello I hear that Jxd is going to stop production of the Jxd S192 Singularity using the Tegra K1, and will instead come out with the Jxd S192k Singularity using the RK3288 RockChip. Two versions will be available, one with 2 GB of RAM and 32 GB storage and another one with 4 GB of RAM and 64 GB of storage. Is this true?

sales@jxdofficial.com
Jun 21 (3 days ago)

to me
yes.but it don't come to stock now.

sales@jxdofficial.com


Jun 21 (3 days ago)

to sales
Please let me know when the 4gb ram 64gb storage model releases. And thank you for the swift reply!

sales@jxdofficial.com
Jun 22 (2 days ago)

to me
how many do you want to buy?

sales@jxdofficial.com



Jun 22 (2 days ago)

to sales
I want to buy 1 as a backup in case anything happens to my Tegra K1 S192 Singularity.


sales@jxdofficial.com
11:05 PM (9 hours ago)

to me
i think it will come to stock in next month.

sales@jxdofficial.com
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 24, 2016, 01:46:07 pm
Ask them why after Nvidia version only just shipped.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 24, 2016, 01:49:04 pm
jxd told me that rk model will be ready for mid july. In fact that already have some enginerring samples (supposedly they were going to send me one enginering sample to help them with the firmware). But ni idea if they have sent me something or not. Too bad they didn't want to send me a samle of the tegra k1. My guess is that they won't give too much firmware support for the tegra k1 model.....
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 24, 2016, 01:54:01 pm
My thoughts exactly with regards to support to the Tegra K1 S192 Skelton. I hope you are feeling better today brother!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 24, 2016, 01:57:43 pm
What support do you need? I've had my S5 2 years, never had an android update since I've had it and it still works fine.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 24, 2016, 02:21:04 pm
Granted others like Skelton and LordDavon sometimes make custom firmwares that fix issues that pop up, but it is a reassuring thing to know that when you buy a product it will be supported by the company that made said product for awhile.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on June 24, 2016, 02:27:31 pm
That is of course depending what you want to use it for.
For emulation, I have the JXD s7800.
For Gamestream/Geforce NOW, I have the JXD s192. Nothing on the market comes close.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 24, 2016, 02:44:09 pm
Actually Siliconmessiah I use my S192 for everything. It's actually proving to be a very good all round device.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: adamantibus on June 24, 2016, 03:12:36 pm
I don't see the point in getting a s192 with rk3288. It's going to be an oversized (and probably overpriced) version of a GPD XD. Or a GPD Q9 with a (presumably) better screen for that matter.

Emulators and games will run exactly the same. Or maybe even worse, considering JXD dodgy firmwares compared to GPD's.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 24, 2016, 03:23:33 pm
I'll say this if there's no loss in performance between the Gpd Xd and the S192k with the RK3288 , I'd personally take the Jxd S192k if it isn't more expensive. I own a Gpd Xd Red 64gb model and Nvidia Shield Portable as well as my Jxd S192 ,and trust me I much prefer the larger and clearer screen size, and clickable analog sticks, and bluetooth of my S192 to my Gpd Xd.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 24, 2016, 03:32:39 pm
Actually Siliconmessiah I use my S192 for everything. It's actually proving to be a very good all round device.
Please test shadow dancer 3 on mame (megaplay)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 24, 2016, 03:47:21 pm
Mame and MamePlus games wok fine using HappyChick on the S192.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 24, 2016, 03:49:50 pm
Most games work on s7800 but there a few that don't. Shadow dancer 3 plays bad, choppy sound, skipped frames.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 24, 2016, 03:51:21 pm
I'm using 139u1 full romset (ecl chds)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 24, 2016, 04:02:14 pm
Not all games in mame4droid 0.139 run full speed in tegra k1. Some boards needs frameskip, like stv games for instance. Fba from retroarch is faster but Support less games.
Happychick emus use all autoframeskiping, so not a great test, mai ly when some people don't notice frameskip or a bad scrolling fue yo an incorrect refresh rate.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 24, 2016, 04:03:48 pm
Yeah that's why I wanted a shadow dancer 3 test because my s7800 plays it bad, if it's not better on the s192 I'll save my money and cancel the order as I only use my device for retro gaming.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 24, 2016, 04:04:45 pm
I don't see the point in getting a s192 with rk3288. It's going to be an oversized (and probably overpriced) version of a GPD XD. Or a GPD Q9 with a (presumably) better screen for that matter.

Emulators and games will run exactly the same. Or maybe even worse, considering JXD dodgy firmwares compared to GPD's.

Exactly, i prefer the gpd xd, but mainly because i prefer a pocket handheld instead of gaming tablets. But i unserstand other people may prefer bigger devices.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: adamantibus on June 24, 2016, 04:13:15 pm
I'll say this if there's no loss in performance between the Gpd Xd and the S192k with the RK3288 , I'd personally take the Jxd S192k if it isn't more expensive. I own a Gpd Xd Red 64gb model and Nvidia Shield Portable as well as my Jxd S192 ,and trust me I much prefer the larger and clearer screen size, and clickable analog sticks, and bluetooth of my S192 to my Gpd Xd.
So many devices just to play the same games on all of them.  ;D
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 24, 2016, 06:16:51 pm
Actually all three devices full-fill different roles and have their strong points.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: ClawShrimp on June 24, 2016, 10:35:15 pm
My unit finally arrived from Geekbuying.
First impression...it's huge! Anyone used to playing a 3DS will laugh when they see the size of this thing. It's also considerably bulkier than the 7800, but in the best possible way.

The build quality is far better than any of my other JXD products. There are no creaks or rattles at all. The screen is fantastically clear and bright with excellent depth of colour. The buttons, triggers, and analog sticks are all pretty spot on, and again, far better than on their previous devices. I'm not too sure about the d-pad yet. Reminds me of the d-pad for the original xbox (the duke).

Quickly tested Street Fighter 3, Powerstone, Mario 64, etc. No problems, but then these all run on pretty much anything.

Software so far hasn't been a problem, but does take some adjustment to get used to using such an old version of Android again.

I'll wait until an optimised custom rom is out before investing too much time, but the plan is to load it up with roms and boot directly into Nostalgia.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 25, 2016, 12:09:19 am
I'm glad to see your device has arrived ClawShrimp and that you're happy with it!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: wangkiller on June 25, 2016, 04:54:36 am
Thats v encouraging to hear as i finally placed my order last saturday on banggood. Really felt like grabbing on before they dont come with nvidia chips no more..
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on June 25, 2016, 05:17:01 am
@Elronza Williams Jr. - Quick opinion.  I want to release, but am struggling with 2 stupid issues.  I am thinking about just adding the ShieldHub 4.12 installer to the image, since I don't want to spend too much time with the installer icon before dropping the alpha/beta.  Think people will object if they have to go into ES and navigate to /tmp to double click on a file?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 25, 2016, 06:27:31 am
Some may not like the extra step but truthfully it isn't a deal breaker bro. And you and Skelton have put in work with this update,so please relax and take it easy and enjoy your S192 lol.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on June 25, 2016, 06:36:31 am
Some may not like the extra step but truthfully it isn't a deal breaker bro. And you and Skelton have put in work with this update,so please relax and take it easy and enjoy your S192 lol.

I just want to get something out so people can start enjoying their S192s.  As well, I could use some feedback.  I am sure there will be more feature requests, and that will give me other things to focus on.  Plus, I've been trying to get things working that are important to me, but people may not even care.

What is killing me about my installer icon is that it was working with the old sources.  Now it isn't. :-(
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: adamantibus on June 25, 2016, 07:03:32 am
Is that a one time thing or something you have to do over every time?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: ClawShrimp on June 25, 2016, 08:28:26 am
@Elronza Williams Jr. - Quick opinion.  I want to release, but am struggling with 2 stupid issues.  I am thinking about just adding the ShieldHub 4.12 installer to the image, since I don't want to spend too much time with the installer icon before dropping the alpha/beta.  Think people will object if they have to go into ES and navigate to /tmp to double click on a file?

For me this is ideal because I have no need for shieldhub. This is purely an emulation device for me.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: usgungormez on June 25, 2016, 01:32:05 pm
Hi all,

I am new here and have signed up to these forums only to contribute with the topic of JXD S192 and hopefully provide potential buyers in the right direction.

I had formerly purchased a Dingoo A380E and was active in the old days in the PSP homebrew scene with CFW's, creating custom Eboots, etc.

Was more of a tinkerer than anything else.

Here is the latest review I contributed earlier to Amazon.com;

First impressions are great, but there are a few flaws.

Negatives:
-Comes with outdated Android 4.4 OS
-Unable to download AAA titles from Google Play Store such as Half-Life 2, Trine 2, Borderlands The Pre-Sequel, Dues Ex, Metal Gear Rising, etc.
-Need to download and install illegal cracked versions of the above mentioned games.
-The package advertises HL2, Portal, Trine 2 and Dead Trigger as pre-install and appears so, but this is a big deception as they are NOT! Only shortcuts appear on the main menu without genuine launchers, APK or cache files.

It is a good unit, but dedication and exceeding legal scope is required to play the games you want in order to maximise device potential.

Genuinely hoping JXD will provide prompt reactive support to all customers.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on June 25, 2016, 06:19:08 pm
Is that a one time thing or something you have to do over every time?

Just once.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on June 25, 2016, 06:22:53 pm
-Unable to download AAA titles from Google Play Store such as Half-Life 2, Trine 2, Borderlands The Pre-Sequel, Dues Ex, Metal Gear Rising, etc..

I may have a fix for this.  I've spoofed the build.prop.  There is also a program that I am including that will send the google servers that the device is a Shield Tablet.  After this is run, you just visit the devices on your Google account, and it should be completely registered.  In theory, this should unlock the Play Store.  I've not gotten it working yet, but I just started messing with it. 
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 25, 2016, 09:32:43 pm
Sweet LordDavon as that's all I need to solve all of my problems with the Jxd Singularity S192 is Shield Tablet spoofing!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 25, 2016, 10:14:01 pm
LordDavon here's something that may be of help to you. It's the original BuildProp of the Nvidia Shield Tablet from when it was on Android KitKat.          http://forum.xda-developers.com/nvidia-shield/shield-qa/shield-tablet-build-prop-t2848293
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on June 26, 2016, 02:48:21 am
LordDavon here's something that may be of help to you. It's the original BuildProp of the Nvidia Shield Tablet from when it was on Android KitKat.          http://forum.xda-developers.com/nvidia-shield/shield-qa/shield-tablet-build-prop-t2848293

I appreciate it.  Google moved away from build.prop for the Play Store a while ago.  That's why the Shield Tablet build.prop is working for the Shield Hub, but not for the Play Store.  The Market Helper app I am including will change how the Google servers have the device registered on their side, and may take care of the other side of the issue.  At least in theory, that should be what else is needed.

There may still be a piece that I am missing in the spoofing, and I will go through it some more tomorrow, when I get home.  But I am going to release the ROM before I play any further, at least in its current form.  I need to start getting feedback, so it can start moving forward.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 26, 2016, 03:20:49 am
I tried Market Helper earlier today and it didn't work.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: usgungormez on June 26, 2016, 04:09:33 am
I tried Market Helper earlier today and it didn't work.

I also tried Market Helper 2.0.4 earlier last night and failed.

This is because Google have updated their security protocols to address such spoofing/vulnerabilities.

Best this at the moment is to download game packages on play.mob, but this is a method which is not condoned as it may breach certain digital laws depending on which country you reside.

If Borderlands The Pre-Sequel receives a port for Tegra K1 that would be bliss.

I am happy to answer any queries as I've recently gained exposure to the device.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on June 26, 2016, 04:17:22 am
It worked for me.  :-)

It spoofs it as the Shield Portable though.  I am going to see if I can figure out what it is doing, and see if I can duplicate it in the sources, and use the Shield Tablet as the spoof.

It took me a few tries, but when I closed the Play Store, ran Market Helper, powered off the unit, visited the devices page in Google, and then restarted the S192... Portal, Half Life 2, and more were available.  Doom 3 still isn't though.

Now I need to see if it lasts:

(https://s32.postimg.org/q2xunlyp1/Photo_on_6_25_16_at_11_11_PM.jpg)

UPDATE: Half life 2 is giving an error when I try to download it.  I think I am going to keep Market Helper included, so people can see if they can get it to work.  I am going to see if I can find what commands it is sending, and see what my Shield Tablet is sending for those.  Then, I will just hard code them in the sources.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: usgungormez on June 26, 2016, 04:49:28 am
Excellent work LordDavon!

Keep us posted - You're a bloody ripper !!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 26, 2016, 06:41:03 am
Great job bro! My only issue with my Jxd S192 is that I want to be able to legally buy Shield Tablet games for it.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suikoden82 on June 26, 2016, 07:43:01 am
How is the dpad in this new device? I ask cause I have a gpd xd but the only thing i don't like is playing beat'em ups with my device.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 26, 2016, 07:45:27 am
The D-pad is okay I'd say equal to the SNES except with a concave center.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: NTMBK on June 26, 2016, 10:10:27 am
I can't believe it's this hard to get Tegra games running on it. It's like Nvidia don't want to sell Tegra any more.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 26, 2016, 10:17:42 am
Maybe it wasn't properly license to JXD. You can't just buy those kind of chips and chuck them in any thing you want. Nvidia is an IP itself.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: NTMBK on June 26, 2016, 10:33:18 am
Maybe it wasn't properly license to JXD. You can't just buy those kind of chips and chuck them in any thing you want. Nvidia is an IP itself.

NVidia haven't been exactly taking the world by storm with these chips. They should be using these games as a "value add" to shift their chips, not trying to squeeze their partners.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 26, 2016, 10:39:37 am
You think JXD is an Nvidia partner? I don't think so, they somehow got a batch of chips made the first run of s192 with them, Nvidia found out about them hacking the games and hub and put a stop to it.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: NTMBK on June 26, 2016, 10:47:15 am
You think JXD is an Nvidia partner? I don't think so, they somehow got a batch of chips made the first run of s192 with them, Nvidia found out about them hacking the games and hub and put a stop to it.

They're trying to sell NVidia based devices and make NVidia some money. If they're not being treated as partners, then NVidia are shooting themselves in the foot.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 26, 2016, 10:52:03 am
But without the correct permissions and licensing big companies don't like to sell. And Nvidia don't need to sell them to a small company like jxd to make a few dollars.

For big companies like that their brand is a big think, if someone makes a turkey product and damages it it could knock of thousands or millions. Jxd aren't exactly known for their good products, quality or customer services. They hack their devices, bodge them together at best.

Now saying that I've been lucky and bought an S7800 that's worked out the box from new works very well and has never had issues with anything. Unlike some who have had several devices.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: SPYCOS23 on June 26, 2016, 01:15:19 pm
Salut l'équipe désolé je ne parle pas anglais , donc je viens ici pour vous dire que market helper  fonctionne a la perfection , je l'utilise depuis le début , allez voir sur open console , j'en ai parler , j'ai pu télécharger tous les halif , portal , je les avais deja acheter et doom 3 , je peut l'acheter aussi si je veut , c'est pas bloqué , se qui faudrait trouver c'est pouvoir installer cwm pour ensuite flasher supersu , parce que la je l'ai root mais avec leur programme chinois et c'est pas terrible , genre la ,set cpu ne fonctionne pas et a mon avis sa  viens du root chinois, en espèrent voir un custum firmware , parce que c'est une machine qui est génial, un grand merci d'avance a celui qui le fera merci plus plus ;)

edit: a ce que market helper ne fonctionne pas , pensé a effacer le cache du playstore après avoir émuler le shield dans market helper ;)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 26, 2016, 02:18:08 pm
I agree with NTMBK any company that uses Tegra chips should have access to Shield Hub and Geforce Now as well as the Tegra exclusive games. It would only benefit Nvidia's pocket's.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 26, 2016, 02:29:38 pm
I suppose that suppose an extra cost that jxd is not gonna pay. There are many tegra devices without hub Support. NVIDIA want it exclusive for their devices i guess.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: SPYCOS23 on June 26, 2016, 11:25:04 pm
Re , j'ai oublier de vous dire dans mon précédent post , que j'avais réussi aussi a mettre l'application shield hub a partir du playstore , c'est l'officiel et a jour grace a market helper, parce que celle que jxd a donné c'est une ancienne version et patché je crois.
Par contre j'ai éditer le buid prop comme la fait lorddavon et installer market helper pour quand meme simuler la shield et après penser a effacer le cash du playstore pour que sa soit pris en compte.
maintenant grace a cette manip , tous les jeux tegra et nvidia ainsi que le shiel hub sont compatible sur playstore et fonctionne.
faudrait pouvoir faire un custum firmware avec toute c'est option , sa serais juste génial , je pense que market helper , on pourrais s'en passer en modifiant d'autre ligne dans le buid prop , je creuse , a pluch et désolé , je parle pas anglais ;)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on June 29, 2016, 04:14:54 am
Ok guys...i just about had it..

For now, All I want to play is mame games.. I have about 30,000 games (give or take).. I downloaded mame4driod on both GPD XD and s192... I upload the roms (all in .7z) in the roms folder od mame4driods folder, its able to see it but when I select it, I get an error message that the fame doesnt exisit... I tried to this on several games, no dice!!

Am i doing something wrong... I get the same error on both devices.. I can deal without playing andriod games, im more interested in playing my retro games and relive my youth... so I turn to you guys for help... I havent really played around with this unit since I got it....

I cant get it to update normally and I dont understand why JXD wont provide OTA updates, everything seems to be  freakn' mission to get this unit to work right... Ill try my best to perform updates on my own but at $300 I would expect some form of support for a newly released device and not all this hacking shit that most of these guys are doing and not getting paid for it... They are banking on guys from here to fix things that they cant or wont

anyway, enough of that...Please Help... I just want get my mame roms working,
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on June 29, 2016, 05:15:50 am
Just an update.  I've installed Ubuntu in Parallels on the Macbook Pro, and I am able to compile again. Now I need to make all of my changes and get the first firmware out.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 29, 2016, 05:54:38 am
Awesome LordDavon!    Suave6565 here's how I play Mame and MamePlus games and emulators on both my Gpd Xd and Jxd Singularity S192. Go use the link for HappyChick below click on the Chinese symbol to the far right of 1.6.3 and download it to your device. After downloading go to manage settings and select which storage you want to use for your Roms. After having selected your storage of choice go to categories and you'll see both Mame and MamePlus click which you want then select the games you want to play and they will download. Next go back to the main menu and click play which will be at the bottom of the screen in the middle. After having clicked play you'll see your list of games click on one you want to play and you'll see three selections. Click single and enjoy your game! See HappyChick has all the Emulators and Roms within the app. Enjoy your gaming bro!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 29, 2016, 05:55:30 am
Here's the HappyChick link.           


http://www.xiaoji001.com/m/en/en_log.html
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 29, 2016, 05:58:56 am
Mame roms need to be in zip format not 7z.. 7z is compatible with latest PC version only.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: adamantibus on June 29, 2016, 06:19:35 am
Don't use Happy Chick to play Mame (nor any other emulator for that matter). Use mame4droid 0139 from the google play store and the fba core in retroarch.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 29, 2016, 06:49:45 am
It's a very easy fix, download mame 139u1 DAT file, unzip all your .7z files into a folder.  Get clrmame pro set input folder and destination and rebuild and the program will re zip all your roms to the correct structure and format.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 29, 2016, 07:04:31 am
I find it funny people speak ill of HappyChick, but I have never had any problems with it myself. I also like how all the Roms and Emulators for said Roms are all in one spot.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 29, 2016, 07:15:15 am
Happy Chick is ok for casual gamers and beginners on the device, its good because you can download just the games you want to play.

I prefer buying the emulators so i have the updated versions all the time and i can copy entire romsets accross is one go and keep them with me.

Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: adamantibus on June 29, 2016, 07:29:30 am
Besides being completely outdated and functionally restricted, let's not forget a tiny detail: Happy Chick is illegal almost everywhere (but China).
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 29, 2016, 07:34:06 am

So are playing roms your dont own ;-)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 29, 2016, 08:05:32 am
HappyChick gets updated regularly and I only download games I already own the physical copy of. HappyChick allows you to save games and play them anywhere also and the Emulator is already there. I'll be 34 on July 23rd and have owned gaming consoles handhelds and PCs and laptops since I was 5 so I have a good sized collection of games and their corresponding devices.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 29, 2016, 08:10:32 am
There are standalone emulators that I have bought which work well on the Jxd Singularity S192 which are Drastic and Mupen64+AE.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 29, 2016, 08:12:46 am
Yeah I tried drastic for the first time too a couple of weeks ago and was really impressed but I won't play it as have a 3DS XL and a gateway card.

I usually play older stuff of my devices, SNES, Nes, MD, GB, C64, speccy, CPC  and arcade stuff like that.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 29, 2016, 08:45:16 am
I play a mixture of games from the newest to old school goodies lol. Speaking of old school goodies anyone into Pacman has got to play Pacman 256! It is free to download on Google play and on Consoles and PC. 


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_JNdBvKlB4
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 29, 2016, 09:06:13 am
Yeah I got that on my phone is cool, it reminds me of that space invaders dx on psp.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 29, 2016, 09:56:27 am
Ok guys...i just about had it..

For now, All I want to play is mame games.. I have about 30,000 games (give or take).. I downloaded mame4driod on both GPD XD and s192... I upload the roms (all in .7z) in the roms folder od mame4driods folder, its able to see it but when I select it, I get an error message that the fame doesnt exisit... I tried to this on several games, no dice!!

Am i doing something wrong... I get the same error on both devices.. I can deal without playing andriod games, im more interested in playing my retro games and relive my youth... so I turn to you guys for help... I havent really played around with this unit since I got it....

I cant get it to update normally and I dont understand why JXD wont provide OTA updates, everything seems to be  freakn' mission to get this unit to work right... Ill try my best to perform updates on my own but at $300 I would expect some form of support for a newly released device and not all this hacking shit that most of these guys are doing and not getting paid for it... They are banking on guys from here to fix things that they cant or wont

anyway, enough of that...Please Help... I just want get my mame roms working,

Your mame roms should be in zip, not in 7z
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 29, 2016, 10:02:15 am
If anyone needs the full set for 139u1 with CHD let me know, it's 23gb though.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: ClawShrimp on June 29, 2016, 11:29:20 am
If anyone needs the full set for 139u1 with CHD let me know, it's 23gb though.

Yes please!
How would you share something so large?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 29, 2016, 11:33:10 am
Easy, multi part zip. 121 x 200mb
I can't PM you for some reason, message me and I'll reply.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 29, 2016, 02:56:35 pm
Great news for those of us who remember the Amiga classic Alien Breed, I just bought the game on Google Play and it works perfectly on the Jxd Singularity S192. I didn't even have to button map the game as it featured native controller support.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 29, 2016, 03:01:38 pm
Great news for those of us who remember the Amiga classic Alien Breed, I just bought the game on Google Play and it works perfectly on the Jxd Singularity S192. I didn't even have to button map the game as it featured native controller support.
Loved that game1
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 29, 2016, 05:18:10 pm
Anyone know what this means? Was playing at lunchtime for 30 mins or so, shut machine down. Just turned it back on and get this icon.


 (http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160629/79e22d4eb42cb43b6d78007f1fb70503.jpg)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 29, 2016, 05:35:12 pm
Ouch that's the dead Android icon! You're going to have to try hard resetting and if that doesn't work you've got no choice but to factory reset. Sorry for you brother!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 29, 2016, 05:42:31 pm
I've wiped both cache and user data and still same, how do I hard reset it.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 29, 2016, 06:26:14 pm
JXD released a firmware with instructions to reflash it. It should be in their mega folder.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 29, 2016, 06:32:34 pm
ITs a S7800B and I'm running webclaw CFM
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 29, 2016, 07:54:20 pm
ITs a S7800B and I'm running webclaw CFM

Oops, sorry I thought you meant s192. Well. I suppose you have to reflash that firmware using RKBatchtool.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 29, 2016, 08:19:45 pm
I can't, the tool doesn't pick up the device. I can get into the recovery menu and that's about it.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 29, 2016, 08:20:32 pm
Ill start a new thread see if anyone can help.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on June 30, 2016, 06:22:05 am
YAY!  I'm building working firmware again!  I'm close to being back to where I was before things got corrupted.  I'm going to get a build together and get something up so people can start testing.  One question, do I keep the game icons on the desktop, or drop them?  I'm wanting to drop them, since I don't think they are needed.  Up to you guys though.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on June 30, 2016, 07:04:40 am
YAY!  I'm building working firmware again!  I'm close to being back to where I was before things got corrupted.  I'm going to get a build together and get something up so people can start testing.  One question, do I keep the game icons on the desktop, or drop them?  I'm wanting to drop them, since I don't think they are needed.  Up to you guys though.

In my humble opinion, you can definitely drop the game-icons. It´s just there and bloating/cluttering stuff up.

Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: ClawShrimp on June 30, 2016, 08:54:03 am
YAY!  I'm building working firmware again!  I'm close to being back to where I was before things got corrupted.  I'm going to get a build together and get something up so people can start testing.  One question, do I keep the game icons on the desktop, or drop them?  I'm wanting to drop them, since I don't think they are needed.  Up to you guys though.

Definitely drop them.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 30, 2016, 09:07:49 am
Drop everything that's not an improvement.

What will this new firmware give us over standard.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 30, 2016, 10:42:39 am
And so... the Model K goes on sale...
http://www.ebay.fr/itm/201581534274
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 30, 2016, 10:46:53 am
Description says OS is android 5.0. Perhaps they will release source or we can flash A5.0 to our Nvidia cpu devices?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 30, 2016, 11:12:03 am
The RK model will come with Android 5.1.1 as far as I know. It will have two models, one wih 2 Gb and other with 4 GB.

I'll get a 2 GB RK model by monday most probably.

In my opinion the tegra k1 will stay at 4.4.4 forever. I don0t think JXD will give much more support to it.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 30, 2016, 11:18:10 am
Can the 5.1.1 source be reverse engineered to out Nvidia s192s? That would be worth getting for the speed improvement and storage options alone.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 30, 2016, 11:24:49 am
Nope, SDK from Rockchip is compltely different. Also, tegra k1 needs a bootloader by nvidia to allow Lollipop. So it depends on JXD. the best you can try is getting shield tablet sources and try to port it to s192,

http://nv-tegra.nvidia.com/gitweb/?p=manifest/android/binary.git;a=blob_plain;f=README;hb=rel-st8-l-r7-partner

 but it needs a bootloader comptible, which must be provided by nvidia or JXD.

What do you mean storage options? Swap between internal or external? If thats the case google removed that in LP (even in KK, but could be done with some hacking). You'll need to use folder mount if you want your big games on SD
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 30, 2016, 12:05:26 pm
Arghhh :-)

We're you able to fix the screen refresh issue?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 30, 2016, 02:52:50 pm
Arghhh :-)

We're you able to fix the screen refresh issue?

From what I saw in the source, screen seems correct set to 60 hz. Probably those having performance issues is due to the poor power policy by nvidia. Shield tablet has the same issue, and some emus only work fine with high performance mode activated. I am not making any development for the tegra device though, JXD didn't want me in. I just made the guide to start compiling, so the work should be done by LordDavon or someone else, but not me.
Panel screen in kernel is in kernel/arch/arm/mach-tegra/panel-p-wuxga-10-1.c

You can see display timings:
static struct tegra_dc_mode dsi_p_wuxga_10_1_modes[] = {
    {
        .pclk = 154700000,
        .h_ref_to_sync = 4,
        .v_ref_to_sync = 1,
        .h_sync_width = 16,
        .v_sync_width = 2,
        .h_back_porch = 32,
        .v_back_porch = 16,
        .h_active = 1200,
        .v_active = 1920,
        .h_front_porch = 120,
        .v_front_porch = 17,
    },

and also states the following:

refresh_rate = 60,

Perhaps chaging to 61 might help, there is nothing to lose.


 I suppose I'll work in the RK model if they release the source and they send me the RK model, because they didn't send me tegra device because they told me they won't probably make more updates for it.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on June 30, 2016, 05:36:28 pm
@skelton have you really looked at the sources we have?  There are a scary amount of Shield code in there, and even some apps.  I'm going to be waking some up. ;-)

@everyone I should have the first Alpha out today or tomorrow.  I spent the night testing the sources, and everything seems solid to me.  Basically, it allows the Shield spoofing (with the store exception for now), cleaner desktop, and ShieldHub installer.  Not too much else, at this time.  I did find a couple errors in the Makefiles that I am fixing also.

I will then do overclocking, and Shield Tablet spoofing for the store.  I lost almost a week with my corrupt VM, so it is good to be back at this point.

Just remember, I have 4 month old, 10 year old and 16 year old kids in the house, so my time gets pulled in several directions.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: adamantibus on June 30, 2016, 05:57:24 pm
Any chances of fixing that poor power policy skelton was talking about? Or do we have to set cpu to performance in order to get proper emulation?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 30, 2016, 06:30:46 pm
Any chances of fixing that poor power policy skelton was talking about? Or do we have to set cpu to performance in order to get proper emulation?

If NVIDIA hasn't fixed in shield tablet.... i think it's the way it is. In shield tablet rooting and using interactive governor with a cpu app makes the trick too. Also, there is file called power.ardbeg.rc that can be edited. Just a hint...
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 30, 2016, 06:34:18 pm
@skelton have you really looked at the sources we have?  There are a scary amount of Shield code in there, and even some apps.  I'm going to be waking some up. ;-)

Of course, i compiled them and made the guide....

Yeah, that's normal because NVIDIA provides that sdk. They probably use a generic sdk for all k1 products, except jeston board. However kernel is modified by jxd in config files. Rockchip sdk also provides some code for several boards, including box and tablets.

Be careful with overclocking, a jxd dev told me that had to reduce voltages because there is no heatsink at all..... and was unstable.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on June 30, 2016, 06:49:41 pm
Be careful with overclocking, a jxd dev told me that had to reduce voltages because there is no heatsink at all..... and was unstable.

Oh, good to know.  I was going to up it to the Sheild's level (200Mhz), but maybe I will test it before releasing.  I know my original Shield Tablet (the one with the overheating battery) would throttle in games.  It may be why they backed things down, since the S192 has dual batteries.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on June 30, 2016, 08:25:35 pm
@skelton can you do me a quick favor, if you still have your build.prop from your build?  Does the fingerprint have test-keys or release-keys?  Mine is signing everything with test-keys.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 30, 2016, 08:27:43 pm
I will take a look tomorrow when i can see in my laptop. I think minenwere test keys too.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Diorj on June 30, 2016, 08:35:15 pm
And so... the Model K goes on sale...
http://www.ebay.fr/itm/201581534274


Sorry, it is a preparation for the sale...
The technical criteria should be the ones indicated by Skelton, in the closest to the good information
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 30, 2016, 08:40:49 pm
Preparation or not. Will be delivered in 3 week.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Diorj on June 30, 2016, 08:47:28 pm
Preparation or not. Will be delivered in 3 week.

They are the indicative deadlines.
I invite you to read the whole announcement: availability in August
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: siliconmessiah on June 30, 2016, 08:50:30 pm
So, if I want one more spare JXD 192 with the K1, it would be right to order now, right?
If I don´t get a K1, I will send it back.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Diorj on June 30, 2016, 08:59:39 pm
So, if I want one more spare JXD 192 with the K1, it would be right to order now, right?
If I don´t get a K1, I will send it back.

Oui très vite, il n'y en a plus de disponible pour la France... et presque tous les derniers modèles sont réservés !
Avec un peu de chance

Yes very fast, there is no more an available for France and almost all the last models are reserved!
With a little luck
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Zailin17 on June 30, 2016, 09:45:06 pm
Just out of curiosity, is there a possibility to create a lollipop or marshmallow variant ROM for the S192? Would there even be any real benefit?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 30, 2016, 09:57:12 pm
If NVIDIA or jxd release a new bootloader is posible. The shield tablet tsbletnworks better for.me in marshmallow than in kitkat, but there are no huge differences.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on June 30, 2016, 09:59:41 pm
Awesome LordDavon!    Suave6565 here's how I play Mame and MamePlus games and emulators on both my Gpd Xd and Jxd Singularity S192. Go use the link for HappyChick below click on the Chinese symbol to the far right of 1.6.3 and download it to your device. After downloading go to manage settings and select which storage you want to use for your Roms. After having selected your storage of choice go to categories and you'll see both Mame and MamePlus click which you want then select the games you want to play and they will download. Next go back to the main menu and click play which will be at the bottom of the screen in the middle. After having clicked play you'll see your list of games click on one you want to play and you'll see three selections. Click single and enjoy your game! See HappyChick has all the Emulators and Roms within the app. Enjoy your gaming bro!

Thank You Elronza.... This helps alot... I can work with the emulators later on and the 7z, I figured as much will happy chick read the 7z file or do i still convert it zip at least in bulk???


For the rest of you guys.. Thank you as well.. I will use happy chick for now and see how that works.. I just need to play games while commuting to and from work... Im not an expert I just need to play my games for now and then ill start using my paid emulators and go as far as using gamesome to organize my collection...


Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 30, 2016, 10:08:22 pm
I don't want Lollipop or Marshmallow as some emulators and a lot of games and apps don't work on those versions of Android.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 30, 2016, 10:10:26 pm
Suave6565 HappyChick has the games and emulators already self contained just follow my directions bro.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 30, 2016, 10:20:10 pm
I don't want Lollipop or Marshmallow as some emulators and a lot of games and apps don't work on those versions of Android.

Which emulator does not work in marshmallow? I my shield tablet has marshmallow  and all emus work for me.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on June 30, 2016, 10:35:25 pm
Suave6565 HappyChick has the games and emulators already self contained just follow my directions bro.

Thank You Thank You....makes my commute, my s192 and GPD XD Red more enjoyable... the funny thing is, my s192 looks like ive had it for a while..its been in my bag without clear protection it comes with and now there is some scuff marks on the screen from all the other crap I carry in my bag...to make matters worse, I really haven't used the s192 since I got it. I figured ill make some time and play around with getting the roms to work, but I never got the time. I was just following this thread to see what other things need to be tweaked.. All I was able to play is FIFA 16 with all the Copa America hype.

Now im on the hunt to get a shield portable just because.... I guess my wife wont be too happy when she see another gadget (In her eyes..a toy) to add to my collection... We all have vices, mine are Chicks, gadgets and muscle cars and computers.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on June 30, 2016, 10:46:14 pm
If NVIDIA or jxd release a new bootloader is posible. The shield tablet tsbletnworks better for.me in marshmallow than in kitkat, but there are no huge differences.
Adoptable storage is one advantage. :-)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: skelton on June 30, 2016, 10:49:29 pm
If NVIDIA or jxd release a new bootloader is posible. The shield tablet tsbletnworks better for.me in marshmallow than in kitkat, but there are no huge differences.
Adoptable storage is one advantage. :-)
Certainly it is. I use my shield tablet and shield tv with adoptable storsge.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 30, 2016, 11:49:50 pm
I have a Shield Portable with Lollipop on it and it is less compatible with games than it was on KitKat Skelton. One must remember that the Shield Tablet is a Tablet not an all in one gaming device like the Shield Portable or Jxd Singularity or Gpd Xd.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on June 30, 2016, 11:53:45 pm
Suave6565 after playing my Jxd Singularity for hours each day and watching movies and TV with it using Showbox I haven't even touched my Shield Portable or Gpd Xd. Link for Showbox provided below. And as can be seen I too am a gadget junkie lol.




http://showboxappdownload.com
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: suave6565 on July 01, 2016, 01:37:04 am
Thank you  Elronza,

Its the push that i needed to get my game going.. im home now and in a little bit, ill start transfering my roms to the sd card on my s192..  do i still need to have the in zipped format or can i leave them as 7z.. if i do need to convert the, whats the best way to convert them to zipped?
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on July 01, 2016, 01:53:28 am
You don't have to do anything other than what steps I have already told you. HappyChick already has the Roms and Emulators in itself and it will allow you to save the Roms to your SD card. Just go step by step following the instructions I gave you. They're the same instructions someone else gave me for my Gpd Xd and it's the same process for the Jxd Singularity. Relax and enjoy your game time!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: ltb on July 01, 2016, 06:23:04 am
HI Ive just bought a Jxd s192 and can somebody run me through how to get the latest firmware and Nvidia Shield Hub with Geforce now working etc. I know you cant do the OTA update but could someone direct me on updating as I have no idea how to do this? Is it through a pc? if so how?
cheers
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on July 01, 2016, 06:59:08 am
You're going to have to go back some pages on this thread and you'll see where it was posted how to change your build prop and do the latest update. I would go and look back for you and post the link but I'm tired now. Good night.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on July 02, 2016, 01:11:21 am
Alpha .1 has been posted.  Basically, except for the cleaner home, there isn't much difference than the Spoofed rooted versions people have, except that root is optional.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Elronza Williams Jr. on July 02, 2016, 03:22:30 am
Awesome LordDavon!
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Pottzman on July 02, 2016, 11:36:57 am
Okay so on hearing the news that the nvidia k1 version of s192 will soon not be available I have placed an order. I have a s7800b but have always been holding out for something with the power of shield portable but with bigger screen. the s192 fits that category but i was hoping to wait until price dropped. I guess that will not happen now for nvidia K1 version.

I have downloaded jxd firmware files and I would like to know the best method to get up to date once my device arrives.

After reading this thread it seems some people have had problems using jxd's update 2.zip (shield hub update), so with that in mind does this sound right.

1. put on charge straight away with jxd charger.
2. update to jxd firmware v1.4_20160509
3. install kingroot
4. apply jxd update_add_shieldhub
5. install SHIELD Hub_com.nvidia.tegrazone3_4.1.19385401_32283452.apk

does that sound right to avoid the problems that people are discussing or is there a better order to get the device up to date?

cheers in advance
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: a7mag3ddon on July 02, 2016, 11:50:11 am
I believe LordDavon just released a better firmware with most if not all fixes and root already in place, not sure where to get it though.
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: LordDavon on July 02, 2016, 11:56:09 am
I believe LordDavon just released a better firmware with most if not all fixes and root already in place, not sure where to get it though.

I would wait for this one to be tested first.  :-)
Title: Re: JXD S192
Post by: Mr.Vic20 on July 02, 2016, 08:10:10 pm
Gents,

I just ordered a S192. I have to say, I've spent the last week reading this monster thread, and the roller coaster ride you guys have gone through is nearly movie worthy! I have to say I'm impressed with the tenacity of this community and hope you have room for one more interested member!