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Offline ruffnutts

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Re: GCW Zero
« Reply #930 on: September 03, 2012, 02:46:32 PM »
Articus thanks for sharing lol.. now we just need more video's of this puppy in action
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Offline D Esopus

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Re: GCW Zero
« Reply #931 on: September 03, 2012, 08:20:57 PM »
Hiya, with the USB being a fully-functioning port, does that make sending MIDI out of the Zero possible, from a music tracker?

Offline ruffnutts

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Re: GCW Zero
« Reply #932 on: September 05, 2012, 11:14:15 AM »
Its very quiet on the GCW scene... what's happening?
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Offline zear

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Re: GCW Zero
« Reply #933 on: September 05, 2012, 11:18:53 AM »
Its very quiet on the GCW scene... what's happening?
The developement of OpenDingux is ongoing so it can be operational for the handheld's release.
We had a first wifi match between two units running OpenDingux the other night.
That's all I can say, ask GCW for other details :)
« Last Edit: September 05, 2012, 11:25:55 AM by zear »

Offline Dexidus

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GCW Zero
« Reply #934 on: September 05, 2012, 12:40:21 PM »
Hey, i have a quick question - it's not super important to me, but for the hdmi output, is it reliant on the emu or will it mirror the display on a hardware level (which would mean all games can be played on the tv, rather than only a few emu's that support tv out)?

Thanks again for all the hard work! October is on it's way! Wootsauce!

Offline ruffnutts

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Re: GCW Zero
« Reply #935 on: September 05, 2012, 12:56:00 PM »
Its very quiet on the GCW scene... what's happening?
The developement of OpenDingux is ongoing so it can be operational for the handheld's release.
We had a first wifi match between two units running OpenDingux the other night.
That's all I can say, ask GCW for other details :)

Thanks zear... see a little info goes a long way.. that sounds awesome  ;D
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Online gibberish

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Re: GCW Zero
« Reply #936 on: September 05, 2012, 10:44:34 PM »
I might have left this a bit late, but I'd really like a concave nub instead of a convex one. The current one looks very cheap and nasty, and sweaty thumbs tend to lose grip more easily on convex ones I find.

I don't think it would be a case of replacing the entire nub (ie electronics and all) just the cap that sits on the top.

Something more like the 3DS one (please excuse the crappy photoshopping):


Because to me the current one looks a bit cheap:


Anybody else feel the same?
« Last Edit: September 05, 2012, 10:46:42 PM by gibberish »

Offline skelton

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Re: GCW Zero
« Reply #937 on: September 05, 2012, 10:59:46 PM »
I might have left this a bit late, but I'd really like a concave nub instead of a convex one. The current one looks very cheap and nasty, and sweaty thumbs tend to lose grip more easily on convex ones I find.

I don't think it would be a case of replacing the entire nub (ie electronics and all) just the cap that sits on the top.

Something more like the 3DS one (please excuse the crappy photoshopping):


Because to me the current one looks a bit cheap:


Anybody else feel the same?

I completely agree.
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Offline NoeL

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Re: GCW Zero
« Reply #938 on: September 06, 2012, 01:08:44 AM »
I also agree. The X and Y buttons should be swapped as well. Why deviate from the familiar?

Offline Pardue

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Re: GCW Zero
« Reply #939 on: September 06, 2012, 01:48:46 AM »
Shoot. Double post.

Delete, please.
« Last Edit: September 06, 2012, 02:38:07 AM by Pardue »
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Re: GCW Zero
« Reply #940 on: September 06, 2012, 02:24:55 AM »
I strongly disagree. The analog nub is fine the way it is. I remember when I first saw it, I was very happy with their choice. My mind instantly remembered the c-stick on the Gamecube controller.

There are a few problems with a concave nub:

I can see that the concave design works on an Xbox 360, I can testify the Neo Geo Pocket design is awesome and I hear the 3ds slider nub works great. But remember, this is not the Zero's main input (your thumb will usually be on the d-pad), the nub on the Zero is secondary and doesn't look too comfortably placed to start with. I feel a concave nub would only make it worse because your thumb will be at an angle, which would not be good for getting grip on such a tiny concave nub. The concave nubs on the 360/NGP/3ds works because it's where your thumb naturally rests when you're holding the controls, so it's easy to get your thumb right in there, work it around and have an enjoyable time... Hey! Stop giggling! I know what you're thinking!! STOP!

Another thing to consider: unlike first party controllers, this nub probably won't be coated with that neat, grippy rubbery stuff that I imagine NASA invented. It's going to be hard, 1980's Ninja Turtles toy quality plastic. That's probably why it has little pimples all over it -to increase grip without rubberizing it. I remember many years ago I wore out the (hard plastic) original N64 controller and I replaced it with a 3rd party controller that had a (hard plastic) concave design. Man, it sucked. It tore apart my thumb in a week.

I'm not about to say it's perfect though. For one thing, in qbertaddict's videos it worries me that it has a lot of wear right on the top of it, which I suspect is probably from rubbing away on the inside of his pocket or its case. Imagine how quickly a rubberized nub would get chewed up.

Lastly, as gibberish mentioned, it's way too late to change, the Zero should be shipping in about three weeks and I didn't hear anyone complain about the nub this whole time. If it tortures you that much, you can just mod it yourself; c'mon this is made by GCW, not Apple (BUUURN!). Saw off the top of the nub, steal a nub from a 3ds, join them with a tiny bit of JB weld then post your results with video.

I couldn't care less about the X and Y buttons, I'm not looking at them while I'm gaming but if by some chance I lose sleep over it, I'll just open up the console and swap them myself.

EDIT: I reviewed the disassembled pics from the GCW site and I see the nub comes apart (to myself- well, DUH! How else did they get it in there?!).

Use this:
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-PSP-Analog-Thumb-Stick-Replacement/dp/B0019LLGL6

Or this:
http://www.traderscity.com/board/products-1/offers-to-sell-and-export-1/replacement-original-3d-analog-controller-joystick-with-cap-for-3ds-n3ds-308312/

/problem solved.

As further evidence the Zero design is well thought out, it's worth mentioning the first reviewer on Amazon wrote that out of all of them, he enjoys the mushroom shaped one the most... Hey! Stop it! Get it out of your head!! STOP IT!
« Last Edit: September 06, 2012, 02:34:22 AM by Pardue »
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Offline Dennis

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Re: GCW Zero
« Reply #941 on: September 06, 2012, 02:08:31 PM »
I strongly disagree. The analog nub is fine the way it is. I remember when I first saw it, I was very happy with their choice. My mind instantly remembered the c-stick on the Gamecube controller.

There are a few problems with a concave nub
I agree with pardue. The caanoo joystick hurt my thumb and that is concave see here in this photo http://www.8-bitcentral.com/images/gph/caanoo/joystickSide.jpg. The one on zero is best. On caanoo it is so small your thumb won't fit inside and will be rubbed raw. What does qbert and zear think of it?
« Last Edit: September 06, 2012, 02:12:19 PM by Dennis »

Offline Articus

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Re: GCW Zero
« Reply #942 on: September 06, 2012, 02:53:53 PM »
I agree with you two 100%, I think its just fine the way it is now!  Plus if I need somekind of rubber grip, I will just pull the silicon top from the analog of an old xbox controller!  I got this idea from a video i saw years back!  I will look for the video and post!

Found it! 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsOxRnL92hQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Not sure if it will fit the Zero, but maybe an option?


Offline Skyline969

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Re: GCW Zero
« Reply #943 on: September 06, 2012, 05:29:59 PM »
I'm definitely excited for the release of this console. The main thing for me is a matte finish - I can have a black console and not have it covered in fingerprints! I wonder if I'd get the special edition despite only having pre-ordered last night....

Offline D Esopus

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Re: GCW Zero
« Reply #944 on: September 06, 2012, 08:57:52 PM »
@Skyline969 Case will be chosen when email requests final payment & choice of case for special editions. You should have the special edition coming to you if you ordered it with PayPal: the invoice mentions "special edition" and you will be okay!